I was there on Saturday Real fans got right behind the team. Lifted the players. Everyone sang there is only one Brennan Johnson. Ange has the team playing the Spurs way. They are not time wasters like Arsenal. They get on with the game of entertaining. COYS
I think Ange is taking pressure away from players by giving media an opportunity to go after him. At the same time the players will follow him because he believes in them.i don’t think Simon is right.
He did exactly that at Brisbane, and even for the Australian national team. It is his style - take all the criticism, and the media forget to criticise individual players.
@@orinorio1 yep exactly that, I try avoid looking at social media as much as I can when it comes to football, it started to make me not enjoy the game as much, I could feel my toxic levels growing
From Aussie: Ange was answering a question on his history when he wins trophies, he was just been truthful, as he said if I don’t win anything this year in the future I win mostly in my second year. Ange fully explained why he had to make 8 changes, Simon you should listen to what people say instead of putting your spin on it.
Tottenham season ticket holder here. I rarely hear negativity towards Ange inside the stadium. It seems that the majority of the noise is coming from social media or the press wanting to make a mountain out of a molehill. Also, Jim White at the start of this clip saying “Solanke opened his account at last” - That was his third league start for the club. Ridiculous comment
Also pressure to come back and play minutes with both Richarlison and Lankshear out injured. Spurs have a striking crisis at the start of the season and this isn't being acknowledged.
Ange has always had a massive chip on his shoulder which is why he has been so successful. In Australia he is viewed by the establishment as a wog (that's what the Ango-Saxon Australians called immigrants from Greece, Italy etc. and they used to call football, 'wogball') & in Europe (where, he was born), the home of football, he is seen as an Aussie kangaroo by the media, football fans and establishment. His combative style will never go away, it's what has made him.
Yes strange as the English aren't "wogs" and also those who say it like one of my Aussie NRL friends - I want to ask - what about all the Islanders in NRL with funny names ?
Ange’s point is one of fact; he wins things in his second year and he can say that until he doesn’t. He is leading a club by giving Spurs a culture of winning as a means to an end. Play well, you’ll win. He says it constantly, win the next touch, the next, play, the next duel, always what’s next. That is what makes him different.
Even some of the Spurs fans were abusing Johnson and he had 20 goal contributions last year. There is a small section of Spurs fans that get wound up over every small thing, or make stuff out to be worse than it is.
Contrary to the belief of many non Nottingham Forest fans, Johnson was hardly a massive success with Forest in the PL.mHe went missing in most games and was skulking around the pitch. But because he would get the odd great goal, he showed up in highlights and everyone but Forest fans thoight he was amazing. Then he was sold for a big fee and Forest did very well. Believe me, Morgan Gibbs-White is exactly the same.
It strikes me that Ange doesn't suffer fools gladly and judging by some of the questions asked of him at the Pressers there are plenty of them in the media.
I love Martin O’Neill, I’d love to sit down and have dinner with big Ange and Martin. Again talkSPORT take the comment from Ange “I win things in my second year” literally. They didn’t mention it was a response to a question from the media, nor did they mention the disclaimer from Ange where he says it is a fact but not a guarantee. He then goes onto to say if I don’t win something this season then I can no longer say that. Simon says media has made football what it is today and are entitled to ask these stupid questions which players and managers should answer. That was okay when the media were professional but now the media is full of self entitled idiots on social media platforms who simply want a reaction so they can generate clicks to create revenue, this video being an example. Heaven forbid the media actually reports the facts and the full conversation.
The big thing Postecoglou is doing is bringing pressure to his door and off his players. He is mature enough to know that the younger players may not be able to handle some of the media spotlight so he puts his own neck out there instead. It's a tactic to stop you blokes talking about Solanke and Johnson to let them play themselves back into form. You guys aren't used to it becuase prem managers tend to be selfish and want to protect themselves and throw their players under the bus to save themselves. This happens in the NRL in Australia all the time because the coaches jobs are more secure. Wayne Bennett is known for this sort of thing, "hates" the media but constantly makes the story him vs something rather than his teams underperformance or a players skill etc.
Ange is trying to change the mentality about winning something because they don't have a winning mentality. If you play down expectations they will continue to NOT win anything. It's all psychological. Some clubs know they will win, some clubs like Tottenham hope they can win, but deep down do they believe it? Ange believes, but do the rest?
I wonder why fellers lambast ange for no reason at all, This is his second season and fellers are like he has been at spurs for 6 years and didn’t improved spurs and won anything. Spurs have improved and he is still inculcating his game pans , strategies and ideas to his players and only time will tell...Spurs were very poor and playing a fossil ball when he was appointed and for now spurs got a game plan, a system of play and the cohesion is gradually improving
Kane used to take a whole month to score, every season people would say he's past it during August. He'd hardly get a goal. Solanke has played 2 PL games, and scored 1.
Doesn’t matter what sport, there are always a small cohort of fans whose expectations are unrealistic and attack in such a toxic way that they epitomise “the ugly fan”. They can’t cope with anything except a dominant win. They have sad lives.
There is two types of Media in football. True Media and Media based on blowing things out of proportion to get views and make videos. Talk Sport is the Media that enjoys making a big deal out of something trivial. They care more about views and clicks then actually talking sense and logic. This style of Media cares more about its own brand then the football.
Why does the media think the press conferences are for them??? Maybe, just maybe, Ange is making the comments for his team. Spurs are serial chokers and probably need a booster shot of confidence.
Ange has alwus said he’s talking to the fans in press conferences and interviews he doesn’t care what media think he’s just getting his view across to dans
Media journalism isn't what it used to be. You've got mugs asking him how it will feel to face Ivan Toney and Brentford before the match. Any fool can produce lazy clickbait these days.
Watching this as an Aussie is hilarious. The references to people of our kind as "Antipodean" has been in use regularly this week in reference to big Ange, when in the UK you've got 4 different nationalities, a north/south divide and a social class divide on top of that, with a league full of players and coaches who don't speak English. BTW it was good to see Chris Wood, one of our antipodean cousins scoring again this week 😜. I know Ange is of Greek extraction, but there are millions of people in Australia who are more British than half of the people living in the UK these days, and who could be descended from or be related to people like Lord Nelson, Princess Diana and Winston Churchill. It comes off as a bit of a stereotype - we are all individuals and there is only one Ange. Even if you guys want to drop him after a few average games, he'll always have a few million people supporting him at any one time through the thick and the thin. I watch all the Spurs games, even if they're at 3am here, and I am a Gunners supporter of 30+ years. You need some characters in this sport and people with conviction in new ideas who can test the boundaries. Don't forget Ferguson and Wenger received similar treatment when they entered the league.
Good call mate.....regardless of who Ange coaches there are millions of Aussies that will continue to follow his journey with pride and respect ! from an Aussie Liverpool supporter
These blokes don’t understand that Ange has worked in the media. He understands the game and he plays them more than they play him. Ange often makes himself the target to shield his players. He’s happy to take the heat himself
IMO, Ange wasn't saying he would win something in his second season with Tottenham... The retort was aimed at the commentator who was trying to trip him up when she reported as him claiming that he's said he 'USUALLY' wins something in his second season; his response was aimed at her lack of accuracy... He was saying more to the point: 'if you're going to be sly and try and trip me up, at least do you're job correctly and get it right...I said I ALWAYS win something in my second season'.
Ange is 50 years old im certain he will know just well if making a statement like that is applying pressure on himself or the club or not. and he wouldnt have said it if it wasnt in a good way.
Strictly, the English are the antipodeans of yourself. Antipodeans are people of the diametrical opposite part of the world to the speaker. Actually, no, I think if you stick a massive skewer through the centre of Australia and the Earth, it comes out in Spain.
Football wouldn't exist without the fans you plum. The media exists because of fan demand for information. These people always forget why they are there. If nobody watched your show your show would cease to exist, get it right.
But Ange didn’t Guarantee anything now did he Simon, he didn’t tell everyone he answered a question then was pushed 3 times to defend the fact that he’s won silverware in his 2nd season. Simon is always the bad cop, it’s old.
Ange has been criticised for being arrogant; he shows every interview that he is anything but. He is Australian and the English media are snobs. Ex players are snobs. Spurs have long been a joke. They pay players to play, not win. Ange will never win.
Simon is an example of Spurs fans. They are toxic. Dont listen or read properly. The players respect their manager. If they dont, they won't be at the club.
Was Johnson addressing the fans that know he is a whinging wet blanket who keeps falling to the floor and holding his head in his hands as if he is surprised at missing yet another strike, failing another attempt on goal, enacting another failed cross attempt, logging another failed pass, committing another eye rolling event? Because if he was? The fans have a 100% right to call him out and tell him to shut up.
Doesn’t matter what sport, there are always a small cohort of fans whose expectations are unrealistic and attack in such a toxic way that they epitomise “the ugly fan”. They can’t cope with anything except a dominant win. They have sad lives.
Social media not fans. The real fans in the stadium on Saturday were right behind the team and Ange.
Stop being so reasonable. That'll get you nowhere these days.
I was there on Saturday
Real fans got right behind the team. Lifted the players. Everyone sang there is only one Brennan Johnson.
Ange has the team playing the Spurs way. They are not time wasters like Arsenal. They get on with the game of entertaining. COYS
I think Ange is taking pressure away from players by giving media an opportunity to go after him. At the same time the players will follow him because he believes in them.i don’t think Simon is right.
You got it in one, had the same the first 5 or 6 games for Celtic.
He did exactly that at Brisbane, and even for the Australian national team.
It is his style - take all the criticism, and the media forget to criticise individual players.
Spot on
He’s done it with every team he has managed. God help the journalist that comes after one of his players and the players love him for it.
Solanke had played about 150 minutes of football for Spurs after returning from an injury, and people were already questioning him.
That's the fans who have know clue about football or just trolling....
Last season Tottenham were top and winning… everyone. Let’s wait and see after 10 games of after Christmas…. Why does this not apply now….
He still has questions to answer. That was an easy tap in.
Fans have no patience for anything now, ridiculous😂😂😂
@@peteworthy8322 most goals strikers score should be easy tap ins. In means they're getting in the right places.
The football world is crazy, he says Solanki opens his scoring account at last, it was his 3rd game 😂
The world has gone mad
Its due to social media and shows like Talk Sport. They have to make a big deal and be over dramatic so they can get views and clicks. It works.
@@orinorio1 yep exactly that, I try avoid looking at social media as much as I can when it comes to football, it started to make me not enjoy the game as much, I could feel my toxic levels growing
From Aussie: Ange was answering a question on his history when he wins trophies, he was just been truthful, as he said if I don’t win anything this year in the future I win mostly in my second year. Ange fully explained why he had to make 8 changes, Simon you should listen to what people say instead of putting your spin on it.
Tottenham season ticket holder here. I rarely hear negativity towards Ange inside the stadium.
It seems that the majority of the noise is coming from social media or the press wanting to make a mountain out of a molehill.
Also, Jim White at the start of this clip saying “Solanke opened his account at last” - That was his third league start for the club. Ridiculous comment
Third league start in eight weeks - he's still nowhere near match fit, especially not for the relentless aspects of Angeball! He'll get there.
Also pressure to come back and play minutes with both Richarlison and Lankshear out injured. Spurs have a striking crisis at the start of the season and this isn't being acknowledged.
Love hearing Martin ONeill talk about football.
Anyone who has followed Ange's career knows that him being annoyed by the media is a standard operating procedure for him. 😂
Its an occupational hazzard!!
And he's worked in the Media for a long time with Fox Sports Saturday A-League and Search for the next Football Superstar etc.
He has no tolerance for BS questions
Ange has always had a massive chip on his shoulder which is why he has been so successful. In Australia he is viewed by the establishment as a wog (that's what the Ango-Saxon Australians called immigrants from Greece, Italy etc. and they used to call football, 'wogball') & in Europe (where, he was born), the home of football, he is seen as an Aussie kangaroo by the media, football fans and establishment. His combative style will never go away, it's what has made him.
If the media concentrates on him, then they are not criticising his players.
Same ol' Ange
Yes strange as the English aren't "wogs" and also those who say it like one of my Aussie NRL friends - I want to ask - what about all the Islanders in NRL with funny names ?
Yep you've described most Greek-Aussies to a tee
Bang on. Ange thrives on being underestimated and being under pressure. He loves it
Ange’s point is one of fact; he wins things in his second year and he can say that until he doesn’t. He is leading a club by giving Spurs a culture of winning as a means to an end. Play well, you’ll win. He says it constantly, win the next touch, the next, play, the next duel, always what’s next. That is what makes him different.
Even some of the Spurs fans were abusing Johnson and he had 20 goal contributions last year. There is a small section of Spurs fans that get wound up over every small thing, or make stuff out to be worse than it is.
It’s because they listen to twats like Simon.
Simon should take a breath and do a little yoga 😝
Contrary to the belief of many non Nottingham Forest fans, Johnson was hardly a massive success with Forest in the PL.mHe went missing in most games and was skulking around the pitch. But because he would get the odd great goal, he showed up in highlights and everyone but Forest fans thoight he was amazing. Then he was sold for a big fee and Forest did very well. Believe me, Morgan Gibbs-White is exactly the same.
At last ? He’s played 4 games and just back from injury 😂 wtf man
3 games bro
It strikes me that Ange doesn't suffer fools gladly and judging by some of the questions asked of him at the Pressers there are plenty of them in the media.
I love Martin O’Neill, I’d love to sit down and have dinner with big Ange and Martin. Again talkSPORT take the comment from Ange “I win things in my second year” literally. They didn’t mention it was a response to a question from the media, nor did they mention the disclaimer from Ange where he says it is a fact but not a guarantee. He then goes onto to say if I don’t win something this season then I can no longer say that. Simon says media has made football what it is today and are entitled to ask these stupid questions which players and managers should answer. That was okay when the media were professional but now the media is full of self entitled idiots on social media platforms who simply want a reaction so they can generate clicks to create revenue, this video being an example. Heaven forbid the media actually reports the facts and the full conversation.
Social media word count limit instant reactions have made everyone insane. Ange is right.
The big thing Postecoglou is doing is bringing pressure to his door and off his players. He is mature enough to know that the younger players may not be able to handle some of the media spotlight so he puts his own neck out there instead. It's a tactic to stop you blokes talking about Solanke and Johnson to let them play themselves back into form. You guys aren't used to it becuase prem managers tend to be selfish and want to protect themselves and throw their players under the bus to save themselves. This happens in the NRL in Australia all the time because the coaches jobs are more secure. Wayne Bennett is known for this sort of thing, "hates" the media but constantly makes the story him vs something rather than his teams underperformance or a players skill etc.
They don't know Ange.
They don’t even try to understand and some of British media are trashy. Look at how they attack their own national teams when they lose.
Ange is trying to change the mentality about winning something because they don't have a winning mentality. If you play down expectations they will continue to NOT win anything. It's all psychological. Some clubs know they will win, some clubs like Tottenham hope they can win, but deep down do they believe it? Ange believes, but do the rest?
I wonder why fellers lambast ange for no reason at all, This is his second season and fellers are like he has been at spurs for 6 years and didn’t improved spurs and won anything. Spurs have improved and he is still inculcating his game pans , strategies and ideas to his players and only time will tell...Spurs were very poor and playing a fossil ball when he was appointed and for now spurs got a game plan, a system of play and the cohesion is gradually improving
Kane used to take a whole month to score, every season people would say he's past it during August. He'd hardly get a goal.
Solanke has played 2 PL games, and scored 1.
At last? It was his third game
Doesn’t matter what sport, there are always a small cohort of fans whose expectations are unrealistic and attack in such a toxic way that they epitomise “the ugly fan”.
They can’t cope with anything except a dominant win. They have sad lives.
There is two types of Media in football. True Media and Media based on blowing things out of proportion to get views and make videos. Talk Sport is the Media that enjoys making a big deal out of something trivial. They care more about views and clicks then actually talking sense and logic. This style of Media cares more about its own brand then the football.
Why does the media think the press conferences are for them??? Maybe, just maybe, Ange is making the comments for his team. Spurs are serial chokers and probably need a booster shot of confidence.
Ange has alwus said he’s talking to the fans in press conferences and interviews he doesn’t care what media think he’s just getting his view across to dans
Antipodeans WTF; Aussies and Kiwis mate, say it how it is.
Media journalism isn't what it used to be. You've got mugs asking him how it will feel to face Ivan Toney and Brentford before the match. Any fool can produce lazy clickbait these days.
Watching this as an Aussie is hilarious. The references to people of our kind as "Antipodean" has been in use regularly this week in reference to big Ange, when in the UK you've got 4 different nationalities, a north/south divide and a social class divide on top of that, with a league full of players and coaches who don't speak English. BTW it was good to see Chris Wood, one of our antipodean cousins scoring again this week 😜. I know Ange is of Greek extraction, but there are millions of people in Australia who are more British than half of the people living in the UK these days, and who could be descended from or be related to people like Lord Nelson, Princess Diana and Winston Churchill. It comes off as a bit of a stereotype - we are all individuals and there is only one Ange. Even if you guys want to drop him after a few average games, he'll always have a few million people supporting him at any one time through the thick and the thin. I watch all the Spurs games, even if they're at 3am here, and I am a Gunners supporter of 30+ years. You need some characters in this sport and people with conviction in new ideas who can test the boundaries. Don't forget Ferguson and Wenger received similar treatment when they entered the league.
Good call mate.....regardless of who Ange coaches there are millions of Aussies that will continue to follow his journey with pride and respect ! from an Aussie Liverpool supporter
100% agree with Martin !!!!!
These blokes don’t understand that Ange has worked in the media. He understands the game and he plays them more than they play him. Ange often makes himself the target to shield his players. He’s happy to take the heat himself
IMO, Ange wasn't saying he would win something in his second season with Tottenham... The retort was aimed at the commentator who was trying to trip him up when she reported as him claiming that he's said he 'USUALLY' wins something in his second season; his response was aimed at her lack of accuracy... He was saying more to the point: 'if you're going to be sly and try and trip me up, at least do you're job correctly and get it right...I said I ALWAYS win something in my second season'.
Ange wasn't prognosticating that he'll win a trophy in the second season. He simply stated a fact that he always won silverware in the second season.
They’re moaning about Solanke scoring after 3 games. Remember Vincent Jansen? They didn’t give him as much stick ,and he was a total nightmare.COYS.
Tottenham supporter here - Almost all spurs fans support Ange. Majority of negativity is always from the sour grapes and snow flakes in the media.
7 months from now Ange will be history
Ange is 50 years old im certain he will know just well if making a statement like that is applying pressure on himself or the club or not. and he wouldnt have said it if it wasnt in a good way.
at last? are you joking?
I DONT MIND JIM BUT THAT WAS A REALY STUPID COMMENT BUT I SUPPOSE THAT IS WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT TO STIR IT UP
Okay, I'm guilty. I thought Solanke was Soldado 2.0
"it could win one of the Cups…" Bwahahaha
Just like the continuous and relentless judgement of Erik Ten Hag aye
They prod just to get headlines they can use for their agena........the media have been doing it for decades!
You're 11th...
@@joesweeney1712 Why are you crying? 😭
@@TKSFamily boo hoo leave Erik alone. Boo hoo you're relentless. Yeah mate, it's me who's crying hahahahaha
This far Solankes lack of presence is made up by his work rate and tenacity,I never wanted him in hindsight I’m quietly impressed by him.
What's an antipodean? Asked by the antipodean
Strictly, the English are the antipodeans of yourself. Antipodeans are people of the diametrical opposite part of the world to the speaker. Actually, no, I think if you stick a massive skewer through the centre of Australia and the Earth, it comes out in Spain.
Son should have passed to him for a second, but it was only Brentford and they weren't parking the bus, well see about him and johns, all of in fact
DFwA💪
Aussies have a winning mentality - that’s why you guys don’t get it
Football wouldn't exist without the fans you plum. The media exists because of fan demand for information. These people always forget why they are there. If nobody watched your show your show would cease to exist, get it right.
When everyone gets to air an opinion on social media, you'll hear lots of garbage opinions.
Exactly. Just because everyone has a right to their opinion, it does not mean that all opinions are equally valid.
But Ange didn’t Guarantee anything now did he Simon, he didn’t tell everyone he answered a question then was pushed 3 times to defend the fact that he’s won silverware in his 2nd season. Simon is always the bad cop, it’s old.
Ange has been criticised for being arrogant; he shows every interview that he is anything but. He is Australian and the English media are snobs. Ex players are snobs. Spurs have long been a joke. They pay players to play, not win. Ange will never win.
Spurs have been unlucky in games they should have won an arsenal cheated with a clear foil for their goal
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The media your full of yourself you've made the game wat it is wtf bullshit the game made itself get over yourselves
Jim White should be writing for The Daily Sport. He's awful.
Simon is an example of Spurs fans. They are toxic. Dont listen or read properly. The players respect their manager. If they dont, they won't be at the club.
The media. Nah, I I'm not into lies.
Was Johnson addressing the fans that know he is a whinging wet blanket who keeps falling to the floor and holding his head in his hands as if he is surprised at missing yet another strike, failing another attempt on goal, enacting another failed cross attempt, logging another failed pass, committing another eye rolling event? Because if he was? The fans have a 100% right to call him out and tell him to shut up.
I've taken a deep breath, i've done some yoga and Solanke is still pony and so are spurs
😂😂😂 Gun team with only the charity shield to show for. Great.😂😂😂
Zero chance you’ve done a single minute of yoga in your life
Because you'd know everything about a random person you've never met on UA-cam wouldn't you, old mystic meg
Sure you aren’t confusing yoga with yogurt 🤷🏻♀️❓
@suesmith3744 I have yogurt after every yoga session funnily enough
Doesn’t matter what sport, there are always a small cohort of fans whose expectations are unrealistic and attack in such a toxic way that they epitomise “the ugly fan”.
They can’t cope with anything except a dominant win. They have sad lives.