+uZiiTV Fuck yea. All the other guys just show the fun they had on the trip and other crap, but never really break it down. Gamer Nexus and Adored are pretty much the only channels I have that showed more than the same slides over and over. I hope these guys get a 1080 sample soon. I feel like the other channels will just run through Tomb Raider and thats it.
+perrrry yeah you couldn't be more right! i just fast forward some youtubers tech videos i have because seems no one has real thoughts about it. AdoreiTV always have real thoughts about tech!
+perrrry while i do trust this channel for the most informative video on the topic i would not doubt other channels and think that they would be biased on their review, espcly the channels like the ones referenced in this video
+perrrry check reddit , AMD joe already contacted him and will send him amd exclusive press releases and units.... it was obvious already but now official, this is a AMD biased channel 100000 %
+Shuhel Rana Not just that, there actually aren't any other channels which go into decent depth like this channel does. None that keep up regularly anyway.
Your Videos really do provide a different perspective and a major breath of fresh air from the usual Sellout Hacks and Biased BS of the Tech Industry News Journalists. Keep on Rocking
Not really sure what any sponsor can or would offer tbh. I've turned down ads before - nothing major obviously - you could all have been watching some phone ad before the video had I took the money, but it didn't feel right for the channel so I said no. Tbh I don't feel hurried or anything. I really never cared about money though, all I wanted to do was provide some quality content and either entertainment or education without having to worry about paying the bills. The Patreon money is a massive weight off my shoulders and means I'll never need to sell out. ;) It does however add extra pressure in terms of quality content. I feel reasonably content overall but I do wish I could do more without being hamstrung by a less than ideal working environment.
Fellow UA-camr to UA-camr, your content is amazing and your voice and way of speaking makes it a lot easier to sit through the video. You're my new favorite tech channel.
I learned a long time ago you have to come here to get the truth about these new hardware releases. Hard to trust all of these clowns that get flown out to events by Nvidia.
+Tone Tech and Gaming Very true, over at LinusTechTips and other reviewers we get a bunch of guys playing on Bungies and boats sponsored by Nvidia while repeating exactly what Nvidia said in their presentation with no extra input whatsoever. It's downright sad that these huge reviewers seem to not know nothing about the hardware they're supposed to be reviewing, or more like aren't allowed to say anything. Good thing there's AdoredTV, techspot and Guru3D still.
@DorianPillari If they don't expose AMD/Nvidia's weakness and objectively expose their hardware after being flown by AMD/Nvidia then yes, they are a bunch of clowns and biased journalists. These guys haven't even talked about these cards, they're feeding us what Nvidia feeds them, marketing. AdoredTV seems to be inmune to these companies Clownization, he should be the one being flown to these events tbh.
AdoredTV Looking forward to hear that bit in one of your videos, explaining why such an awesome tech reviewer like you would turn down such huge opportunity :( I'm sure you had your reasons, We trust in you Zempai, our GPUs thank you for your unbiased approach.
P.s Keep telling it how you see it and don't be a sellout like all the other UA-camrs that attended the event who are busy making videos promoting this overpriced minor upgrade card.....
+Roy Wright Assuming that NVIDIA is not lying about 1070 being faster than a titan x then I would not call that just a minor upgrade. The titan x or even 980ti was something that was not affordable for most people and thanks to the 1070 it will now finally be affordable. Last generations has really not provided much of a boost in the models in the same price range.
+Galvanized Dreamer the only difference in the founders edition will be the pretty design of the cooler and vapor chamber Heatsink, they will be 1700mhz and boost from there roughly. The 1070 will be slower than the 1080 overall due to gddr5 but not by much, but we'll see how well pascal performs in dx12 and Vulcan as that's the future of gaming.
+sempron I doubt that since they did first announce the "real" performance of the 1080. It was only during the VR segment of the conference that they claimed it was twice as fast. Would be really misleading of them to announce it being faster than a titan x without at very least having a small disclaimer like they had during the VR portion. Either way we will know soon enough :P
Excellente video as always, Pascal it's just what I had expected, Maxwell on Steroids , the frequencies are impressive no doubt but the performance is not up there yet, I'm holding for Vega/Volta. Btw, I was expecting that you talked about Async shaders and concurrent Async Compute/Shaders for Pascal, there's some controversy about it, some are saying Pascal can finally do concurrent Async Shaders/Compute while others say it is just as Maxwell, Async Compute without PreEmption, others say it does PreEmption better but nobody knows for sure. Nvidia released some slides for Pascal where it said that Pascal brought "Huge improvements for Async compute" but that isn't the same as GCN Async Shaders, in fact they're not even related, Nvidia Definition of Async Compute is nothing like GCN. There are some Aots Bencmarks for the 1080 that suggest Native Concurrent Async Shaders are not present on Pascal still. Maybe on your next video? :D Cheers!
Nvidia has had Asynchronous Compute for a few generations but because of their poor pipeline scheduling implementation, they were not able to take advantage of it on Maxwell. If they fix their scheduler they shouldn't take such a performance hit on dx12.
+Sergey Smith That is not exactly how it works. Nvidia can do Async Compute with Maxwell, what they can't do however is CONCURRENT Async Shaders, Async Compute and/or Graphics, which is the whole point of it. In order for Maxwell to process async commands it must stop all graphics processes putting them on hold until it finishes all compute commands, then it switches back to graphics. GCN have the unique ability of doing Async Compute, Async Shaders and Graphics all at the same time thus increasing performance thanks to such parallel implementation without the need of switching between commands. Maxwell can do Async Compute with poor scheduling, what it can't do however is Async Shaders.
You deserve WAY more subs!!! Much better with WAYYY more information than other UA-camrs, looking at you LTT. Please never change, people need to help get your name out there.
Finally someone that is not talking hyped up crap that was likely brought on by overdose or at least copious amounts of free airfare, booze, steaks 3 x a day, firing off shot guns, etc, etc. I'd like to think if you'd have gone that it would have been the same though. The "popular" cliques appear to be more often unbalanced in their perspectives, and some of their methods too are not technical or scientific enough but rather more entertainment. They can be enjoyable but I do like to obtain some clear facts and they've left the garage size double door wide open for you to step right into this. Good luck and thanks!
+Kent Townsing I haven't actually seen AMD bullshit their numbers quite like Nvidia. The worst they've done is release specific benchmarks which showed they performed better, none of which were exaggerated or fake in any way, though.
+AdoredTV You sir officially KICK ASS... left right and center at that. No other tech channel puts in, so much thought and effort in the content it creates.
I bet you people are still gonna flock on these cards no matter what. The point you made in earlier videos about the mind share Nvidia cultivated is absolutely right, which is kinda sad tbh.
This is great. Good work, conscientious and thought out. This is what I've always sought after when I'm searching for a good analysis by tech channels. What I usually get is just waffle around the marketing schlock, so cheers! Subbed
+Jay Thomas HBM 2.0 Uses the same 4096bit bus as HBM 1.0 but with 8 dies and double throughput. in terms of Bandwith, HBM 2.0 Can go up to 1TB/s (1,024GB/s) which is over 3X Faster than a Titan X or 1080. GDDR5X is for all intents and purposes just GDDR5 with Higher data speeds and lower power
Truth been served. NVIDIA's marketing is shady. I expect the 980TI and Titan X still be beating the 1070. There is a other leaked benchmark of the 1080 compared to a OC-980ti. 980ti had 4500 points, the 1080 4900 points. That is a difference of 400 points. That;s about 12%..
EVERYONE!!! Please spam links to this guys channel and or his videos in the comments section of EVERY tech website and youtube tech channels. There is no reason why this brilliant man should only have 24,000 subs he needs 1 million!!! Get him out there!!
+Neil Hepburn sometimes sub number means nothing, it's easy to achieve with bots subbing the channel what important is the viewer numbers. if you look up the stats, his video at least viewed 50% less than numbers of subscribers, and most video recently doubled or even tripled the numbers of subs. so depending on subscribers amount doesn't guarantee higher traffic for view.
I heard about this info release a few days ago, held off watching any videos about it until yous came out though. Only channel I can rely on to be unbiased and realistic.
+YeCannyDaeThat Yeah Exactly, I have been watching and ignoring Nvidia 1080 videos all this time, just waiting for AdoredTV. Don't have time to figure out how good it really is, so waiting for only really trustworthy source I know about.
+maersklandro The Fury X can't use all of it's performance due to various issues. To use all the shaders requires async to be utilised and unless that is happening the bandwidth will never be saturated. Basically speaking, Fury X is a horribly unbalanced part and you can't really compare different architectures as well as you can similar ones.
Just found your channel while searching for info on nvidia gimping their own cards in Fallout 4.. Please don't stop doing what you're doing. So refreshing listening to someone who can actually read the fine print. Regards from Australia!
***** No, I understood perfectly what he said the first time. The reason I watched it the second time is because I was bored and I wanted to hear his voice again. I really like his videos.
It's clear that Pascal has suffered a massive IPC drop, Cuda Core & clock for clock vs Maxwell. This relates to the inclusion of very important features such as fast context switch and preemption. To make up for this, NV have pushed clocks way up, and have not taken advantage of the power savings available on 16nm FF. Which is a good choice in the end. For gamers, the interesting thing is performance, rather than how it's obtained. :)
It was interesting that nVidia didn't even mention DX12. I imagine that will be all the talk during AMDs conference. I was hoping for something like: "Finally, a card that can play triple-A titles at 4K on ultra at 60fps" from nVidia, rather than spinning big numbers. All this says to me is wait until January next year for the 1080ti or Vega. Great video btw :)
We took a very similar approach to the GTX 1080 and 1070. I have a similar video up as well, and I touched on the marketing tactics nVidia used to put their product on a throne. Tips you should take from this video -Always wait for 3rd party benchmarks -take 1st party benchmarks (from nVidia & nVidia affiliates) with a grain of salt and analyze specs! -if a competing company has a chance to respond, always let them before making your decisions (4870, 295X2, C2D E6600 are a few products that exemplify companies striking back with better valued products days to weeks after their competitor's release) Keep it up man. You're an inspiration for my content!
Adorded is the only tech channel that i can truly trust because of how he brakes everything down and shows you how he found it unlike every other channel
And you're right, the major advantage of Finfet is that the transistors can clock much higher with less power leakage. As such, they can be pushed more without power use skyrocketing.
if you watched the Nvidia presentation they had the 1080 at over 11ghz on memory and click speeds of 2.1 ghz how "off the shelf" that is no one knows but this might make up for some of the lack of performance mentioned. But great video and fantastic job of keeping it short only 15mins lol :p I know you said after the amd video you couldn't do that anymore but you can't help yourself can you? No half assed BS like some other channels. Props as always
+Dart Maul I know it's hard not to as those 5 stats have been in every tech video for the past few days, but it was shown at the nvidia demonstration over clocked during a rendering application if memory serves. It was this over clock and vague referencing that gave way to the initial confusion over the founders edition. It seems clear this gpu and memory has a chunk still under the hood and I expect to see partner boards show some insane figures. But regardless I only mentioned it as some question mark was bought up about performance. I'm sure someone far smarter would be able to give an educated guess but by those figures this card has some excellent ocing potential.
Love your work keep it up brother! Nice editing also on the slides, laughed when you flipped Relative VR Game Performance. Felt like you took a jab at some people who just look at numbers rather than what they represent.
Why are people going crazy over the stats Nvidia is releasing about Pascal? AMD released it's own 1st-party benchmarks of the Fury X, showing it beating out the 980ti. In reality, it's the slower card. The same thing is happening here. Wait for actually, 3rd parties to analyze these card
+Pan Z Agreed, it's the slower card, in 1080p dx11. 4k dx12 or vulkan, Fury X has chances of beating the 980ti. If you want to do longer with a card, go AMD, i get the feeling they're way more future proof.
What a refreshing take on the new nvidia card's. I'm just glad you have made this video to clean up the facts from the BS. It certainly shows that Nvidia don't want to be left out of the party and a rush to get there new cards out. Top work mate!
Instantly you point out that the Titan X comparisons were in something not related to gaming, sadly youtubers and tech websites other than a few didn't pick up on this. Or they ignored it. There is a real lack of disclosure right now from the youtubers and websites who had their expenses paid to attend the event and instantly push out hype peddling videos/articles. I'm surprised no tech reporter or content producer picked up on the "2 years and several billions of dollars" R&D claim on the Pascal architecture. Obviously untrue as they have multiple areas that are being worked on. Just as AMD didn't focus on Polaris, they have various other areas. www.ycharts.com/companies/NVDA/r_and_d_expense www.ycharts.com/companies/AMD/r_and_d_expense
+frank This is a common problem for the press in general. They lick the hand that feeds them, and NVIDIA feeds the tech press a lot. Expensive holidays, fancy dining, cool/costly activities, gifts, etc. The reason that smaller youtube channels like this can call it like it is, is because they do not rely on the hardware vendors to make a living.
Hi I just found your channel and subscribed! Love the in-depth GPU stuff. Have you ever thought have using your video audio to put into a podcast? I'd love to geek out on CPU/GPU tech on my commute!
My favorite tech channel by far. Thank you for your in depth look. I'm looking forward to seeing your AMD Polaris analysis. Keep up the fantastic work! Greetings from Germany
This is my new crack. Gotta be Monday's or are start to shake. So, as my dealer don't let me go this long again. Great video. Don't know if I can wait 9 months.
To anyone with a GTX 980 or two of them in SLI, I would recommend either getting a 980 ti when everyone will be selling theirs on ebay or wait for the GTX 1080 ti.
+teddybeddy123 I would totaly do that as a crossfire 2x r9 390 owner. but knowing that my setup beats a 980ti on dx12 very easily, I better wait for polaris.
+GameCrow's Do not wait for Polaris! its not a high end part its actually for laptops and mid range systems. Wait till 2017 for Vega which is new FinFet process and HBM memory.
Alberto Martinez I don't know If Im patient enough to wait another 9 months. IF only actually start selling hbm2 vega cards in early 2017, otherwise I might go nvidia, depending on their dx12 support.
I have been really looking forward to this video! I can't wait to see your benchmarks on these cards. Thanks for taking the time and care to do these videos.
Finally, been looking forward to your new video about this new architecture, great work man. I'm sitting on a 980 Strix today @ 1500MHz so really no rush to upgrade, but still gonna be exciting on 17th of May when independent benchmarks will be released. Think I gonna pass on this and wait until GP102/Volta with HBM2 will be released next year...
I would also like to mention that the cuda cores in maxwell are different than the cuda cores in pascal. The pascal cuda core are more refined and improved. That is why they are able to use less cuda cores and still get much better performance.
+Eric Brown The biggest difference is the ability to do double the flops by doing half-precision floating point. I'm still waiting to find out what the 64 bit floating point performance is with the 1080/1070.
How the hell do you have way less subs and views then the big techtubers? This is the most detailed and best explenation i've seen so far of the Pascal chip.
Man I was about to buy into the hype and here you go grounding me. I'm holding off until I see those vega benchmarks. You're doing great work man. Keep it up!
Adored, Great video as always and you brought up some points that I already came to the conclusion of but never thought as to why because, it's Nvidia, and smoke and mirrors are their thing. Prime example, seen their VR slide and instantly thought 90% of people wouldn't read the Y value and just take the 3x better performance as across the board, nor did Nvidia go out of their way to explain that it was ONLY in VR during their event. Again smoke and mirrors but to give Nvidia some credit, it is up on their slide for everyone to read. Also, Love the way you broke things down in your video in terms of numbers, because I have been having that discussion with friends saying something is not right. Either the numbers are wrong or Nvidia is pulling a 970 with the numbers and that alone has been causing some heated discussions between us let alone the whole Async Compute that I am claiming is not on the hardware level. Either way, keep up the great work, I love your videos!
I have two possible theories about Pascal: Theory 1: Pascal suffers from what I call "clock speed inflation". Let me explain what I mean by this with an example: AMD's FX-9590 is factory overclocked at 5 Ghz and it has eight cores. Despite this, it can be outperformed by Intel i5's and i7's even in programs that can utilize many threads. A widely accepted explanation of this is that the cores are not as good. Regardless, it's clocked at 5 Ghz, which would be impressive on Intel CPUs (they usually overclock to about 4.6 Ghz sometimes higher). But the point is that despite the 5 Ghz, it's not as good as a higher priced Intel four core chip clocked at a lower speed. The FX-9590's clock is not worth as much, hence "clock speed inflation". Theory 2: Nvidia has not given the GTX 1070 and 1080 enough memory bandwidth. If this is true, they may be holding back cards with higher amounts of VRAM, or in the case of the 1070, a GDDR5X version. GDDR5 and GDDRX differ only slightly in terms of the GPU, but 5X is signifcantly better. There will not be an HBM2 version of the 1070 or 1080 because it would be a waste of time for Nvidia to convert these GPU's into an entirely different VRAM format if they could easily slap on another few gigabytes. Cases of both AMD and Nvidia using the same GPU with different amounts of VRAM are common for example: - A lot of AMD's 300 series is the 200 series with twice the VRAM - Some models of the GTX 960 have 2GB of VRAM while others have 4GB. - The 980 Ti is the same chip as the Titan X with half the VRAM and is slightly less powerful.
Are you saying the Pascal cards are probably worse than they could be? If so where are you cocluding this from as we have no benchmarks and very little snippets of theoretical performance. While I personally think Pascal will probably not perform as Nvidia advertised. They have been like this in the past. For example; advertising a new architecture like it was 5 times faster in compute performance something not relevant to gamers and misleading them.
+Kenrick Brown That is more about instructions per cycle differences between AMD and intel. Pascal has less cores than maxwell, lower memory bandwidth but much higher stock clock speeds so it sort of makes sense that it is faster.
I have literally ignored everything from all other tech reviewers until i saw your post before drawing my conclusions on their posts. You are a true guru in deconstruction my friend. Please continue your great work.
As interesting as it was to see all the announcement hype from the other guys, your analytics was what I was waiting for. I picked up on the VR axis as well, and really want to know what it does with DX11, seeing as DX12/Vulkan/etc, are still all up in the air as to the future anyway, and DX11 is still going to be the most useful in avoiding issues with immature drivers during early benchmarks.
I've never learned so much in so little time. I've been waiting for a video since the presser. No bias from +AdoredTV and that's why I can't get enough of this channel.
Fantastic analysis. Im still sat on a 780, and very eager to get a 1080, but this video has knocked some sense into me to wait to see polaris, and depending on the games that come out over the next 6-9 months, wait for the Ti variant too. Must admit, my 780 doesn't really struggle with much (a few things need turning down on the fancier games, but im playing cs most of the time anyway...)
Jon Mercado The games are my actuall problem^^ there are no really good games with super intensive graphics, that would justify to buy a expensive graphics card right now. Please proof me wrong on this one if you can^^ But I want to step up my game on resolution and go from 1080 to 1440p and my trusty old hd7950 ain't gonna cut it anymore, but when i upgrade I want to upgrade BIGTIME (have moneys on ma hands) and only the superior option is worth considering^^ I think I can wait atleast until the specs of vega are official and make a decision then.
Great video from AdoredTV, as expected! Very different from the other "mainstream" tech channels. About the cards...well...for me personally they are as expected. I believe the target audience for these Pascal cards are more people who are still on the 700 series or low end 900 series, than people who are already in 970 SLI, 980 (Ti) and Titan X territory. I don't think the performance gain is enough to bother with selling perfectly good 900 series Maxwell cards and investing heavily in these first releases of Pascal cards. Like AdoredTV mentioned, I personally will wait for the release of VEGA and/or GP102 cards with HBM, of course! Looking forward to those!! :)
Finally a video displaying the real performance of the new nvidia cards. I just wish a lot more peolple would see this and understand that the marketing is just hype.
+Txx00xic Well there were some Ashes of the Singularity banchmarks that leaked which weren't that groundbreaking. That and the fact thst more than one source now says that it's only 20-25% faster than a 980 ti. So it's failry safe to say that most of the advertisenent are just cherry picked stats.
+Thyldor Obviously as both AMD and Nvidia will cherry pick the hell out of benchmarks this year but all evidence points to the 1080 being a worthy upgrade for those on the 980/970 field and AMD's Polaris chips just being for mainstream consumers which both isn't bad but not groundbreaking so it's pretty safe to assume Volta/Vega will be the heavy hitters we expected.
+Thyldor For VR it apparently is but for normal desktop gaming it's just a 20-25% which in all honesty isn't bad but a 980ti will most likely last you this year and the same is with the Fury X.
When I saw the first performance slides I was waiting for you to do a video, because I knew the impression I was getting seemed too good to be true. You did not disappoint.
Can't wait for the cards being available, Pascal and Polaris, to see real independent benchmarks. Woah! Almost half the amount of your total subscribers currently watched your new video within 5 hours uppon release. Congratulations! Well deserved. Quality over quantity
my exact thoughts !! No freaking way is it faster than Titan X by 2x :D Here is an excerpt of what i told my friends - " I am 101% sure that Titan X will be beaten by 1080 by at most 30-40% in terms of raw framerates. The main reason being - the 1080 runs at a whooping 2.1Ghz+ GPU clock whereas the Titan X struggles to sustain 1.4Ghz GPU core clock ! In theory if we could overclock Titan X to that level then I am pretty sure Titan X would beat the heck out of 1080 [there are articles on Titan X with liquid cooling achieving 2Ghz and beating everything out] According to the latest benchmarks , 1080 is about 10-25%faster than 980Ti depending on the scenario… Since 980Ti pulls marginally ahead of Titan X (again, due to it’s aggressive dynamic overclocking, thanks to the aftermarket coolers that nvidia totally prevented custom board partners from putting on the TitanXs #$$#^$&^#%$$#!!!*@*!) , I totally don’t agree with 1080 being 2x faster than Titan X. In fact you can see the latest demo of DOOM running on Vulkan API at 1080p resolution at between 100-150FPS !!!!! Nitpicking - the demo is in a closed room with mostly darker environment which should totallyyyy boost the performance , but we only see 100-150fps, which I think points to something strange (otherwise they would’ve showcased 1440p or even 4k " Awesome video by the way :)
+rritambhar chakraborty even worse If you watch the doom demo more closely the frame rate was from 79-200 frames but more noticeably at the clock speeds you said and i totally agree with you on the 1440 and 4k why not run it on a panel that the card is aimed at and project it rather than bullshitting us with a 1080p demo my 7970 runs it at 1080p with no problems
Outstanding video, much more realistic than the crazy numbers spouted on nvidia slides, very good math and again a very informative, interesting video, top marks again my friend very impressive work.
If you're shopping for GPU right now, consider the 1070/1080. If you already own a 980, 980Ti or an AMD equivalent. Skip the 1070/1080. Either way you should take a look at what AMD offers. After all, Freesync is significantly cheaper than Nvidias G-sync.
+Andrwei Joghansan I agree with waiting to see what AMD offers in competition with the 1070. I don't agree with skipping 1080 from 980, especially if its for VR.
+Nerd Chat the 1080 is a pretty big jump for 980 users but 980ti users will be able to hold on to their cards for another 9 months until the 1080ti and the next Fury releases.
+Nerd Chat As long as your 980 can still keep up with your tasks/games including VR then I dont see the point. Is not like there are any VR games yet where a 980 would truly struggle.
+Justin Thomas Yeah that will be very interesting! If we just go for the hitman footage (P10) then it should match a 980Ti with ease, also in DX11. If AdoredTV is guessing correctly, then P10 will have stand against the 1070. So all we need to wait for is AMD keeping their promise to release a card in the 970/390 price range (~300-350 USD/EUR) which is as fast as the 980TI. I would guess it will be cheaper then the 1070 but with far better DX12 performance.
All the other big tech channels should sub to you so they can actually get their facts right for once.
haha yep
+Tangopiper lol
+Tangopiper I'd imagine those big tech channels would get a huge slap on the wrist from Nvidia if they did do a video like this
yea true
Dude you are beating every other tech channels ass with these breakdowns
+uZiiTV Agreed
+uZiiTV LOL. I just commented on this. Dude is killing the other PC gaming channels......
+uZiiTV
Confirmed.
+uZiiTV Aye! ;)
+uZiiTV Fuck yea. All the other guys just show the fun they had on the trip and other crap, but never really break it down. Gamer Nexus and Adored are pretty much the only channels I have that showed more than the same slides over and over.
I hope these guys get a 1080 sample soon. I feel like the other channels will just run through Tomb Raider and thats it.
"it seems like Nvidia has misplaced my invite anyway."
Another quality video and one of the few tech channels who haven't been wine & dined by the corporations.
+perrrry You got damned right
+perrrry yeah you couldn't be more right!
i just fast forward some youtubers tech videos i have because seems no one has real thoughts about it.
AdoreiTV always have real thoughts about tech!
+perrrry Cheers bud!
+perrrry while i do trust this channel for the most informative video on the topic i would not doubt other channels and think that they would be biased on their review, espcly the channels like the ones referenced in this video
+perrrry check reddit , AMD joe already contacted him and will send him amd exclusive press releases and units.... it was obvious already but now official, this is a AMD biased channel 100000 %
seriously, don't care if ur videos r long, it's not like its boring me, always willing to listen about tech. so keep em coming.
+Shuhel Rana Cheers!
+Shuhel Rana Exactly my thoughts. Awesome and very clean and informative videos! Thank you Adored.
+Shuhel Rana Not just that, there actually aren't any other channels which go into decent depth like this channel does. None that keep up regularly anyway.
dont worry nvidia drivers will make sure the 1070 run faster and the titan x a little slower.
I'm sure..lol
+alcidiow Nvidia will cripple the Titan X's performance to make the 1070 look better?
Yeah probably that.
+alcidiow Yep that is one way to deal with it :P
oooo had to read twice then realize you guys talking about nvidia driver gimping older card performance lel xD
man i've been waiting for your video on this topic since the news broke
Your Videos really do provide a different perspective and a major breath of fresh air from the usual Sellout Hacks and Biased BS of the Tech Industry News Journalists. Keep on Rocking
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Not really sure what any sponsor can or would offer tbh. I've turned down ads before - nothing major obviously - you could all have been watching some phone ad before the video had I took the money, but it didn't feel right for the channel so I said no.
Tbh I don't feel hurried or anything. I really never cared about money though, all I wanted to do was provide some quality content and either entertainment or education without having to worry about paying the bills. The Patreon money is a massive weight off my shoulders and means I'll never need to sell out. ;) It does however add extra pressure in terms of quality content. I feel reasonably content overall but I do wish I could do more without being hamstrung by a less than ideal working environment.
I'm the same, can't be arsed with ads at all so it would be hypocritical of me to get annoyed with others for feeling the same way.
"Includes tips and trick on how to survive Nvidia's marketing with your wallet intact."
Oh you
Either 6 Titan X owners or 6 nvidia engineers disliked this video?
+60 Second Reviews *7
Fellow UA-camr to UA-camr, your content is amazing and your voice and way of speaking makes it a lot easier to sit through the video. You're my new favorite tech channel.
+ItsMikeike Cheers bud!
I learned a long time ago you have to come here to get the truth about these new hardware releases. Hard to trust all of these clowns that get flown out to events by Nvidia.
+Tone Tech and Gaming Very true, over at LinusTechTips and other reviewers we get a bunch of guys playing on Bungies and boats sponsored by Nvidia while repeating exactly what Nvidia said in their presentation with no extra input whatsoever.
It's downright sad that these huge reviewers seem to not know nothing about the hardware they're supposed to be reviewing, or more like aren't allowed to say anything.
Good thing there's AdoredTV, techspot and Guru3D still.
+Dargonante They are still under NDA until the 17th. Likely see stuff after that :)
@DorianPillari If they don't expose AMD/Nvidia's weakness and objectively expose their hardware after being flown by AMD/Nvidia then yes, they are a bunch of clowns and biased journalists.
These guys haven't even talked about these cards, they're feeding us what Nvidia feeds them, marketing.
AdoredTV seems to be inmune to these companies Clownization, he should be the one being flown to these events tbh.
+Dargonante I actually turned one great offer down, but that's a story for another day. ;)
AdoredTV Looking forward to hear that bit in one of your videos, explaining why such an awesome tech reviewer like you would turn down such huge opportunity :(
I'm sure you had your reasons, We trust in you Zempai, our GPUs thank you for your unbiased approach.
Amazing AdoredTV as always, i'm not going to be fooled by Marketing Again.
+Cristiano Siqueira Cheers!
This video really reminds me how strong Nvidia's marketing team is
+HCkev They are good at their jobs! For sure!
P.s Keep telling it how you see it and don't be a sellout like all the other UA-camrs that attended the event who are busy making videos promoting this overpriced minor upgrade card.....
+Roy Wright too late for that, he was reached by amd
+Roy Wright Supposedly, the Founders Edition card is factory OCd to 2.2 GHz (2.154 GHz to be exact IIRC), whether or not that matters, I am unsure of.
+Galvanized Dreamer It's not!
+Roy Wright Assuming that NVIDIA is not lying about 1070 being faster than a titan x then I would not call that just a minor upgrade. The titan x or even 980ti was something that was not affordable for most people and thanks to the 1070 it will now finally be affordable. Last generations has really not provided much of a boost in the models in the same price range.
+Galvanized Dreamer the only difference in the founders edition will be the pretty design of the cooler and vapor chamber Heatsink, they will be 1700mhz and boost from there roughly. The 1070 will be slower than the 1080 overall due to gddr5 but not by much, but we'll see how well pascal performs in dx12 and Vulcan as that's the future of gaming.
About Nvidia saying the 1070 is faster than the Titan X, it's most likely they are referring to its VR performance as well.
+sempron Almost certainly.
+sempron I doubt that since they did first announce the "real" performance of the 1080. It was only during the VR segment of the conference that they claimed it was twice as fast. Would be really misleading of them to announce it being faster than a titan x without at very least having a small disclaimer like they had during the VR portion.
Either way we will know soon enough :P
Been waiting for this video, since Friday, there are zero other objective video's on UA-cam right now telling you about the 1080 for what it really is
I didn't even see that the graph was for VR only. You are amazing sir.
most tech channel are afraid to make this kind of observation or else nvidia will not supply them with free card.
ikr :(
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Excellente video as always, Pascal it's just what I had expected, Maxwell on Steroids , the frequencies are impressive no doubt but the performance is not up there yet, I'm holding for Vega/Volta.
Btw, I was expecting that you talked about Async shaders and concurrent Async Compute/Shaders for Pascal, there's some controversy about it, some are saying Pascal can finally do concurrent Async Shaders/Compute while others say it is just as Maxwell, Async Compute without PreEmption, others say it does PreEmption better but nobody knows for sure.
Nvidia released some slides for Pascal where it said that Pascal brought "Huge improvements for Async compute" but that isn't the same as GCN Async Shaders, in fact they're not even related, Nvidia Definition of Async Compute is nothing like GCN.
There are some Aots Bencmarks for the 1080 that suggest Native Concurrent Async Shaders are not present on Pascal still.
Maybe on your next video? :D
Cheers!
Nvidia has had Asynchronous Compute for a few generations but because of their poor pipeline scheduling implementation, they were not able to take advantage of it on Maxwell. If they fix their scheduler they shouldn't take such a performance hit on dx12.
+Sergey Smith That is not exactly how it works.
Nvidia can do Async Compute with Maxwell, what they can't do however is CONCURRENT Async Shaders, Async Compute and/or Graphics, which is the whole point of it.
In order for Maxwell to process async commands it must stop all graphics processes putting them on hold until it finishes all compute commands, then it switches back to graphics.
GCN have the unique ability of doing Async Compute, Async Shaders and Graphics all at the same time thus increasing performance thanks to such parallel implementation without the need of switching between commands.
Maxwell can do Async Compute with poor scheduling, what it can't do however is Async Shaders.
+Dargonante I might think about the async for a future video, a shorter one though. ;)
finally! i have been checking this channel for this video for last few days ever since i heard about the new release of the cards
If you subscribe, you don't have to keep checking, you'll be automatically notified.
AspectClip i know but i was restless and checked in every couple of hours if i might have missed it
You deserve WAY more subs!!!
Much better with WAYYY more information than other UA-camrs, looking at you LTT.
Please never change, people need to help get your name out there.
+Ryan M Whenever I can I share your vids and tell people about finding answers on your channel on LinusTechTips forum
+Jonathan Wakeford Kindly do it... we need more truths out there.
Finally someone that is not talking hyped up crap that was likely brought on by overdose or at least copious amounts of free airfare, booze, steaks 3 x a day, firing off shot guns, etc, etc. I'd like to think if you'd have gone that it would have been the same though. The "popular" cliques appear to be more often unbalanced in their perspectives, and some of their methods too are not technical or scientific enough but rather more entertainment. They can be enjoyable but I do like to obtain some clear facts and they've left the garage size double door wide open for you to step right into this. Good luck and thanks!
Well well well, Nvidia and their bullshit strike again.
What bullshit? Misleading in marketing, sure, but both sides do exactly the same thing.
+Kent Townsing Founders edition is literally an extra $100 for the reference blower and street cred.
Kent Townsing Misleading=bullshit.
+Kent Townsing
I haven't actually seen AMD bullshit their numbers quite like Nvidia. The worst they've done is release specific benchmarks which showed they performed better, none of which were exaggerated or fake in any way, though.
+TheTopMostDog "Overclockers Dream" Marketing is bullshitting in itself
+AdoredTV You sir officially KICK ASS... left right and center at that. No other tech channel puts in, so much thought and effort in the content it creates.
I bet you people are still gonna flock on these cards no matter what. The point you made in earlier videos about the mind share Nvidia cultivated is absolutely right, which is kinda sad tbh.
+Omar Abdel Aziz ..and NVIDIA are good at marketing their stuff.
+Nerd Chat well amd stole their marketing girl so i think we may see some changes soon.
Mp
This is great. Good work, conscientious and thought out. This is what I've always sought after when I'm searching for a good analysis by tech channels. What I usually get is just waffle around the marketing schlock, so cheers! Subbed
+Confounded Feline Cheers!
Dude your channel is sodding great. Finally using math and logic to analyze stuff, not some moron showing me the shiny box!
Subscribed!
+Борис Гаганелов Cheers!
+Jay Thomas HBM 2.0 Uses the same 4096bit bus as HBM 1.0 but with 8 dies and double throughput.
in terms of Bandwith, HBM 2.0 Can go up to 1TB/s (1,024GB/s) which is over 3X Faster than a Titan X or 1080. GDDR5X is for all intents and purposes just GDDR5 with Higher data speeds and lower power
Truth been served. NVIDIA's marketing is shady. I expect the 980TI and Titan X still be beating the 1070. There is a other leaked benchmark of the 1080 compared to a OC-980ti. 980ti had 4500 points, the 1080 4900 points. That is a difference of 400 points. That;s about 12%..
+Jurgen Timmerman All marketing from any company is skewed in their favor to make them look better then competition, huyala AMD Fury X, Bulldozer, etc
Oh snap, you were wrong lel. GTX-1070 beats 980ti and Titan X heh.
Music & Drawing No it doesn't. rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?86369-Matrix-Platinum-980-Ti-vs-Strix-GTX-1070 . 980ti is still the winner.
EVERYONE!!! Please spam links to this guys channel and or his videos in the comments section of EVERY tech website and youtube tech channels. There is no reason why this brilliant man should only have 24,000 subs he needs 1 million!!! Get him out there!!
+Neil Hepburn
spamming is a cheap and ugly way of doing that, and it's frowned upon, so please don't
+Neil Hepburn good idea, but you're bringing a bad rep to this channel for that kind of mentality
+Neil Hepburn sometimes sub number means nothing, it's easy to achieve with bots subbing the channel
what important is the viewer numbers.
if you look up the stats, his video at least viewed 50% less than numbers of subscribers, and most video recently doubled or even tripled the numbers of subs.
so depending on subscribers amount doesn't guarantee higher traffic for view.
sometimes, subbers generally lse interest after awhile. if yiu thought of that
We need a slogan like leafyishere...
I heard about this info release a few days ago, held off watching any videos about it until yous came out though. Only channel
I can rely on to be unbiased and realistic.
+YeCannyDaeThat Cheers bud.
agreed
+YeCannyDaeThat same
+YeCannyDaeThat Yeah Exactly, I have been watching and ignoring Nvidia 1080 videos all this time, just waiting for AdoredTV. Don't have time to figure out how good it really is, so waiting for only really trustworthy source I know about.
+maersklandro The Fury X can't use all of it's performance due to various issues. To use all the shaders requires async to be utilised and unless that is happening the bandwidth will never be saturated. Basically speaking, Fury X is a horribly unbalanced part and you can't really compare different architectures as well as you can similar ones.
Finally, someone who knows how to make great informative videos and sees through all of the marketing rubbish. Keep it up!
No advert's, no nonsense, just what I should know about stuff I wanna buy.
Made you look! (You're awesome!)
I have been following gtx 1080 since the release date and your review is the most detailed one
Just found your channel while searching for info on nvidia gimping their own cards in Fallout 4.. Please don't stop doing what you're doing. So refreshing listening to someone who can actually read the fine print. Regards from Australia!
Can't wait to see what Polaris is like!
+Deltaexio wont be long. amd has an event later this month.
this video smack all gamers hype about gtx1080 back to the ground of reality
I've watched the video 2 times (yesterday and today) just because is pure gold.
***** No, I understood perfectly what he said the first time. The reason I watched it the second time is because I was bored and I wanted to hear his voice again. I really like his videos.
yea true same here
***** I understand :D
hope that AMD will do what Adam jensen had said in last trailer: "I won't let them have the last word" 😃
It's clear that Pascal has suffered a massive IPC drop, Cuda Core & clock for clock vs Maxwell. This relates to the inclusion of very important features such as fast context switch and preemption. To make up for this, NV have pushed clocks way up, and have not taken advantage of the power savings available on 16nm FF. Which is a good choice in the end. For gamers, the interesting thing is performance, rather than how it's obtained. :)
I absolutely love your videos man. Just a cut and dry unbiased analysis of things to come. I've learned quite a bit from your videos. Keep it up man!
+Mr_Trouzerz Cheers!
I was looking forward to this video, to get away from the hypetrain .
It was interesting that nVidia didn't even mention DX12. I imagine that will be all the talk during AMDs conference. I was hoping for something like: "Finally, a card that can play triple-A titles at 4K on ultra at 60fps" from nVidia, rather than spinning big numbers.
All this says to me is wait until January next year for the 1080ti or Vega. Great video btw :)
This guy knows what he is talking about. Great video.
+Omkar Rane Cheers!
We took a very similar approach to the GTX 1080 and 1070. I have a similar video up as well, and I touched on the marketing tactics nVidia used to put their product on a throne.
Tips you should take from this video
-Always wait for 3rd party benchmarks
-take 1st party benchmarks (from nVidia & nVidia affiliates) with a grain of salt and analyze specs!
-if a competing company has a chance to respond, always let them before making your decisions (4870, 295X2, C2D E6600 are a few products that exemplify companies striking back with better valued products days to weeks after their competitor's release)
Keep it up man. You're an inspiration for my content!
+OzTalksHW Cheers bud, gonna watch that vid now. ;)
that "misplaced" invitation though... :D
Great vid as always!
Adorded is the only tech channel that i can truly trust because of how he brakes everything down and shows you how he found it unlike every other channel
+ReVo Shade Cheers bud.
"FOUNDERS EDITION NVIDIA BULLSHIT" In you native accent absolutely perfect mate...great vid adored
ur content and in depth study of material is awesome
nvidia being not very clear with their products, all this makes me want to skip this whole next gen. Thanks for you infos, great as always.
+RedEye good luck with that, the whole tech world is drooling over the new beast.... the 1080
+rx10 10% better than a fury x hardly a beast
+RedEye A lot of people will because everyone bought the 970
Russell Morton How is the 1080 10% better than the Fury X? lmao
And you're right, the major advantage of Finfet is that the transistors can clock much higher with less power leakage. As such, they can be pushed more without power use skyrocketing.
"Misplaced my invite" If you know what I mean lol
Saw this video linked on a forum. Your breakdown is incredible, and well explained. Definitively had to sub after this one!
+B3ans Cheers!
if you watched the Nvidia presentation they had the 1080 at over 11ghz on memory and click speeds of 2.1 ghz how "off the shelf" that is no one knows but this might make up for some of the lack of performance mentioned. But great video and fantastic job of keeping it short only 15mins lol :p I know you said after the amd video you couldn't do that anymore but you can't help yourself can you? No half assed BS like some other channels. Props as always
+SpookzNGlory stock speed is 1700something MHZ, during boost. According to specs
+Dart Maul I know it's hard not to as those 5 stats have been in every tech video for the past few days, but it was shown at the nvidia demonstration over clocked during a rendering application if memory serves. It was this over clock and vague referencing that gave way to the initial confusion over the founders edition. It seems clear this gpu and memory has a chunk still under the hood and I expect to see partner boards show some insane figures. But regardless I only mentioned it as some question mark was bought up about performance. I'm sure someone far smarter would be able to give an educated guess but by those figures this card has some excellent ocing potential.
I really love your channel. you make the technicals nice and simple to understand and somehow keep it entertaining.
Fantastic video, once again. You really know your stuff! The amount of info you offer is just very impressive - as always.
Love your work keep it up brother! Nice editing also on the slides, laughed when you flipped Relative VR Game Performance. Felt like you took a jab at some people who just look at numbers rather than what they represent.
Nvidia wouldn't do it if it didn't work! Slides are so basic but people still miss the words themselves on them...
Why are people going crazy over the stats Nvidia is releasing about Pascal? AMD released it's own 1st-party benchmarks of the Fury X, showing it beating out the 980ti. In reality, it's the slower card. The same thing is happening here. Wait for actually, 3rd parties to analyze these card
+Pan Z Agreed, it's the slower card, in 1080p dx11. 4k dx12 or vulkan, Fury X has chances of beating the 980ti. If you want to do longer with a card, go AMD, i get the feeling they're way more future proof.
its slower in dx11 not dx12 game with async compute and certainly not with vulkan for sure
its slower in dx11 not dx12 game with async compute and certainly not with vulkan for sure
its slower in dx11 not dx12 game with async compute and certainly not with vulkan for sure
its slower in dx11 not dx12 game with async compute and certainly not with vulkan for sure
Nvidia must have lost your invite? Great Video, keep them coming. Building a new PC this year, so soaking in all this sweet knowledge.
What a refreshing take on the new nvidia card's. I'm just glad you have made this video to clean up the facts from the BS. It certainly shows that Nvidia don't want to be left out of the party and a rush to get there new cards out. Top work mate!
they spent 7billion to beat a fury x by 10% in ashes of singularity
+Russell Morton Probably just to be beaten again by AMD 480/90.
+Russell Morton And will be rekt by Polaris 11
+3rd World Gamer you mean the cards that perform the same as a 390/390x just at a lower TDP? keep dreaming.
+3rd World Gamer Polaris 10 Actually!
David Pro Yeah my bad, Polaris 10.
Instantly you point out that the Titan X comparisons were in something not related to gaming, sadly youtubers and tech websites other than a few didn't pick up on this. Or they ignored it. There is a real lack of disclosure right now from the youtubers and websites who had their expenses paid to attend the event and instantly push out hype peddling videos/articles.
I'm surprised no tech reporter or content producer picked up on the "2 years and several billions of dollars" R&D claim on the Pascal architecture. Obviously untrue as they have multiple areas that are being worked on. Just as AMD didn't focus on Polaris, they have various other areas.
www.ycharts.com/companies/NVDA/r_and_d_expense
www.ycharts.com/companies/AMD/r_and_d_expense
+frank well may 17 is non nda review day , so not long to find out some truths re speed etc
+frank This is a common problem for the press in general. They lick the hand that feeds them, and NVIDIA feeds the tech press a lot. Expensive holidays, fancy dining, cool/costly activities, gifts, etc. The reason that smaller youtube channels like this can call it like it is, is because they do not rely on the hardware vendors to make a living.
Hi I just found your channel and subscribed! Love the in-depth GPU stuff. Have you ever thought have using your video audio to put into a podcast? I'd love to geek out on CPU/GPU tech on my commute!
My favorite tech channel by far. Thank you for your in depth look. I'm looking forward to seeing your AMD Polaris analysis.
Keep up the fantastic work!
Greetings from Germany
This is my new crack. Gotta be Monday's or are start to shake. So, as my dealer don't let me go this long again. Great video. Don't know if I can wait 9 months.
To anyone with a GTX 980 or two of them in SLI, I would recommend either getting a 980 ti when everyone will be selling theirs on ebay or wait for the GTX 1080 ti.
+teddybeddy123 I would totaly do that as a crossfire 2x r9 390 owner. but knowing that my setup beats a 980ti on dx12 very easily, I better wait for polaris.
+GameCrow's Do not wait for Polaris! its not a high end part its actually for laptops and mid range systems. Wait till 2017 for Vega which is new FinFet process and HBM memory.
Alberto Martinez I don't know If Im patient enough to wait another 9 months.
IF only actually start selling hbm2 vega cards in early 2017, otherwise I might go nvidia, depending on their dx12 support.
Was looking forward to this video! Can't wait to see your content on Polaris and Pascal when they're released.
love your accent keep it up subbed since 5k
+Kayra Ege Arda Cheers!
+AdoredTV Cheers! LOL
I have been really looking forward to this video! I can't wait to see your benchmarks on these cards. Thanks for taking the time and care to do these videos.
AdoredTV on the new developments! Fuck yeah!
Finally, been looking forward to your new video about this new architecture, great work man. I'm sitting on a 980 Strix today @ 1500MHz so really no rush to upgrade, but still gonna be exciting on 17th of May when independent benchmarks will be released. Think I gonna pass on this and wait until GP102/Volta with HBM2 will be released next year...
I would also like to mention that the cuda cores in maxwell are different than the cuda cores in pascal. The pascal cuda core are more refined and improved. That is why they are able to use less cuda cores and still get much better performance.
+Eric Brown yep i heard that too )
+Eric Brown The biggest difference is the ability to do double the flops by doing half-precision floating point.
I'm still waiting to find out what the 64 bit floating point performance is with the 1080/1070.
How the hell do you have way less subs and views then the big techtubers? This is the most detailed and best explenation i've seen so far of the Pascal chip.
+Arren Yes it does take time. I'm quite happy with the steady influx of new subs, might even be better this way. ;)
Blown away. Subbed.
+Arjun Shenoy Cheers!
Man I was about to buy into the hype and here you go grounding me. I'm holding off until I see those vega benchmarks. You're doing great work man. Keep it up!
+Fenris244 Cheers!
i listen to your vids when im taking the kids to school lol.. they're all learning haha.. cant wait for the next vid mate
+Leonytis Cheers bud!
Oooh I've been waiting for this... *chuckles in joy*
You're making quality vids adored. keep it up!
Adored, Great video as always and you brought up some points that I already came to the conclusion of but never thought as to why because, it's Nvidia, and smoke and mirrors are their thing. Prime example, seen their VR slide and instantly thought 90% of people wouldn't read the Y value and just take the 3x better performance as across the board, nor did Nvidia go out of their way to explain that it was ONLY in VR during their event. Again smoke and mirrors but to give Nvidia some credit, it is up on their slide for everyone to read. Also, Love the way you broke things down in your video in terms of numbers, because I have been having that discussion with friends saying something is not right. Either the numbers are wrong or Nvidia is pulling a 970 with the numbers and that alone has been causing some heated discussions between us let alone the whole Async Compute that I am claiming is not on the hardware level. Either way, keep up the great work, I love your videos!
I have two possible theories about Pascal:
Theory 1:
Pascal suffers from what I call "clock speed inflation". Let me explain what I mean by this with an example:
AMD's FX-9590 is factory overclocked at 5 Ghz and it has eight cores. Despite this, it can be outperformed by Intel i5's and i7's even in programs that can utilize many threads. A widely accepted explanation of this is that the cores are not as good. Regardless, it's clocked at 5 Ghz, which would be impressive on Intel CPUs (they usually overclock to about 4.6 Ghz sometimes higher). But the point is that despite the 5 Ghz, it's not as good as a higher priced Intel four core chip clocked at a lower speed. The FX-9590's clock is not worth as much, hence "clock speed inflation".
Theory 2:
Nvidia has not given the GTX 1070 and 1080 enough memory bandwidth. If this is true, they may be holding back cards with higher amounts of VRAM, or in the case of the 1070, a GDDR5X version. GDDR5 and GDDRX differ only slightly in terms of the GPU, but 5X is signifcantly better. There will not be an HBM2 version of the 1070 or 1080 because it would be a waste of time for Nvidia to convert these GPU's into an entirely different VRAM format if they could easily slap on another few gigabytes. Cases of both AMD and Nvidia using the same GPU with different amounts of VRAM are common for example:
- A lot of AMD's 300 series is the 200 series with twice the VRAM
- Some models of the GTX 960 have 2GB of VRAM while others have 4GB.
- The 980 Ti is the same chip as the Titan X with half the VRAM and is slightly less powerful.
Are you saying the Pascal cards are probably worse than they could be? If so where are you cocluding this from as we have no benchmarks and very little snippets of theoretical performance. While I personally think Pascal will probably not perform as Nvidia advertised. They have been like this in the past. For example; advertising a new architecture like it was 5 times faster in compute performance something not relevant to gamers and misleading them.
Thomas Zhang Which theory are you addressing?
+Kenrick Brown That is more about instructions per cycle differences between AMD and intel. Pascal has less cores than maxwell, lower memory bandwidth but much higher stock clock speeds so it sort of makes sense that it is faster.
+Kenrick Brown i think both theories may be valid at the same time :(
lockjawjak Then have you considered Theory 2 as a possibility?
earned a sub , keep doing this.
I have literally ignored everything from all other tech reviewers until i saw your post before drawing my conclusions on their posts. You are a true guru in deconstruction my friend. Please continue your great work.
+clamwhacker Cheers!
In terms of info your videos are the best Keep up the good work !
+Farooq jamal Cheers!
Can't get enough of your stuff very clever my friend thx for your work!
You're the king. THE KING I TELL YOU! It's not fair to all other youtubers! ;)
As interesting as it was to see all the announcement hype from the other guys, your analytics was what I was waiting for. I picked up on the VR axis as well, and really want to know what it does with DX11, seeing as DX12/Vulkan/etc, are still all up in the air as to the future anyway, and DX11 is still going to be the most useful in avoiding issues with immature drivers during early benchmarks.
holy crap look at those views nice job
+setogod Cheers bud.
I've never learned so much in so little time. I've been waiting for a video since the presser. No bias from +AdoredTV and that's why I can't get enough of this channel.
+Elvis Morales Cheers!
still not fast enough.
Fantastic analysis. Im still sat on a 780, and very eager to get a 1080, but this video has knocked some sense into me to wait to see polaris, and depending on the games that come out over the next 6-9 months, wait for the Ti variant too. Must admit, my 780 doesn't really struggle with much (a few things need turning down on the fancier games, but im playing cs most of the time anyway...)
Who else will wait for Polaris/Vega?
+lokdabest Im waiting for gameplay videos, 4k numbers, and Polaris. I may buy the 1070 if its what I think it is.
Jon Mercado
The games are my actuall problem^^ there are no really good games with super intensive graphics, that would justify to buy a expensive graphics card right now. Please proof me wrong on this one if you can^^
But I want to step up my game on resolution and go from 1080 to 1440p and my trusty old hd7950 ain't gonna cut it anymore, but when i upgrade I want to upgrade BIGTIME (have moneys on ma hands) and only the superior option is worth considering^^
I think I can wait atleast until the specs of vega are official and make a decision then.
Cody Brown Yes you are so right witch this i once mad the mistake to upgrade from a hd4870 to a gtx560, so dissapointing
Great video from AdoredTV, as expected! Very different from the other "mainstream" tech channels.
About the cards...well...for me personally they are as expected. I believe the target audience for these Pascal cards are more people who are still on the 700 series or low end 900 series, than people who are already in 970 SLI, 980 (Ti) and Titan X territory. I don't think the performance gain is enough to bother with selling perfectly good 900 series Maxwell cards and investing heavily in these first releases of Pascal cards. Like AdoredTV mentioned, I personally will wait for the release of VEGA and/or GP102 cards with HBM, of course! Looking forward to those!! :)
Finally a video displaying the real performance of the new nvidia cards. I just wish a lot more peolple would see this and understand that the marketing is just hype.
the real benchmarks haven't been out yet so this is "educated speculation".
+Txx00xic Well there were some Ashes of the Singularity banchmarks that leaked which weren't that groundbreaking. That and the fact thst more than one source now says that it's only 20-25% faster than a 980 ti. So it's failry safe to say that most of the advertisenent are just cherry picked stats.
+Thyldor Obviously as both AMD and Nvidia will cherry pick the hell out of benchmarks this year but all evidence points to the 1080 being a worthy upgrade for those on the 980/970 field and AMD's Polaris chips just being for mainstream consumers which both isn't bad but not groundbreaking so it's pretty safe to assume Volta/Vega will be the heavy hitters we expected.
+Txx00xic For sure, but it's not the insane increase they make it out to be.
+Thyldor For VR it apparently is but for normal desktop gaming it's just a 20-25% which in all honesty isn't bad but a 980ti will most likely last you this year and the same is with the Fury X.
When I saw the first performance slides I was waiting for you to do a video, because I knew the impression I was getting seemed too good to be true. You did not disappoint.
1070: Muh 7.5GB
/s
+Mezzan K No bruh... it will be 6 GB
970 4gb with 3/4 active mems
1070 8gb with 3/4 active mems
huehuehue
Can't wait for the cards being available, Pascal and Polaris, to see real independent benchmarks.
Woah! Almost half the amount of your total subscribers currently watched your new video within 5 hours uppon release. Congratulations! Well deserved. Quality over quantity
my exact thoughts !! No freaking way is it faster than Titan X by 2x :D Here is an excerpt of what i told my friends -
" I am 101% sure that Titan X will be beaten by 1080 by at most 30-40% in terms of raw framerates. The main reason being - the 1080 runs at a whooping 2.1Ghz+ GPU clock whereas the Titan X struggles to sustain 1.4Ghz GPU core clock ! In theory if we could overclock Titan X to that level then I am pretty sure Titan X would beat the heck out of 1080 [there are articles on Titan X with liquid cooling achieving 2Ghz and beating everything out] According to the latest benchmarks , 1080 is about 10-25%faster than 980Ti depending on the scenario… Since 980Ti pulls marginally ahead of Titan X (again, due to it’s aggressive dynamic overclocking, thanks to the aftermarket coolers that nvidia totally prevented custom board partners from putting on the TitanXs #$$#^$&^#%$$#!!!*@*!) , I totally don’t agree with 1080 being 2x faster than Titan X. In fact you can see the latest demo of DOOM running on Vulkan API at 1080p resolution at between 100-150FPS !!!!! Nitpicking - the demo is in a closed room with mostly darker environment which should totallyyyy boost the performance , but we only see 100-150fps, which I think points to something strange (otherwise they would’ve showcased 1440p or even 4k "
Awesome video by the way :)
+rritambhar chakraborty even worse If you watch the doom demo more closely the frame rate was from 79-200 frames but more noticeably at the clock speeds you said and i totally agree with you on the 1440 and 4k why not run it on a panel that the card is aimed at and project it rather than bullshitting us with a 1080p demo my 7970 runs it at 1080p with no problems
Outstanding video, much more realistic than the crazy numbers spouted on nvidia slides, very good math and again a very informative, interesting video, top marks again my friend very impressive work.
+Veritas Cheers bud.
If you're shopping for GPU right now, consider the 1070/1080.
If you already own a 980, 980Ti or an AMD equivalent. Skip the 1070/1080.
Either way you should take a look at what AMD offers. After all, Freesync is significantly cheaper than Nvidias G-sync.
+Andrwei Joghansan I agree with waiting to see what AMD offers in competition with the 1070. I don't agree with skipping 1080 from 980, especially if its for VR.
+Nerd Chat the 1080 is a pretty big jump for 980 users but 980ti users will be able to hold on to their cards for another 9 months until the 1080ti and the next Fury releases.
+Nerd Chat As long as your 980 can still keep up with your tasks/games including VR then I dont see the point. Is not like there are any VR games yet where a 980 would truly struggle.
It'll be interesting to see exactly what Polaris has in store.
+Justin Thomas
Yeah that will be very interesting! If we just go for the hitman footage (P10) then it should match a 980Ti with ease, also in DX11. If AdoredTV is guessing correctly, then P10 will have stand against the 1070. So all we need to wait for is AMD keeping their promise to release a card in the 970/390 price range (~300-350 USD/EUR) which is as fast as the 980TI. I would guess it will be cheaper then the 1070 but with far better DX12 performance.