Swifty and Hotted Discuss Nostalrius, Legacy Servers, & Vanilla WoW
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2016
- Swifty and Hotted talk about the Vanilla WoW private server, Nostalrius, that was recently shut down. They also discuss their thoughts on the current state of the game, legacy servers, Legion, and more!
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I thought you were all pro-Blizzard and would have dismissed the idea of legacy servers, but this video proved me completely wrong. I respect you a lot man!
+Another Amorphis Fan yeah when even "modern day" swifty isin't even as kiss-ass-blizzard as Baj is lmfao.
+ODIW ikr
+Another Amorphis Fan If he didn't the legacy nazi's would have downvoted all his videos for daring to disagree.
+Another Amorphis Fan What?! Who gave you that impression, I think Swifty is literally the face of legacy servers, he suggested it YEARS before soda and kungen started their little pleb campaign. It's pretty pathetic to me that the community only NOW is willing to speak up. Years ago we started petitions to do this, we made so many tries to initiate this movement and people all just dismissed it, now that Soda's little cancer squad found their balls, all of a sudden it's "Thanks to Sodapoppin!".....
+AltF4 Gaming yeah u r so funking right on this one
Man, I missed these old kind of videos :)
+Cresser finally it came back after a year
+SavageLight Yap
+Cresser
Forreal where the heck is Nexius lol
itt egy Cresser,szeva! :DD
+Jumpah :D hello
Swifty, if you start streaming vanilla and re-live your glory days I will re-sub.
Yup!!!
+dANNEYFTW all kinds of re-subs...all kinds
+RetroCheetoBros He literally can't. It's against Blizzard ToS so it's against Twitch ToS.
+Jacob Price getting all kinds of horde busting action
+- Tedd hey buddy, how about you go sit on a pine cone
Ive been playing on a vanilla server for a little while after being disinterested in retail for some time. I think one of the biggest reasons that vanilla is so enticing is that you cant simply faceroll everything by yourself. Many quests and enemies require you to reach out to other players. The mmo part of mmorpg is very relevant in vanilla. Mobs in the world are often stronger than you are, grouping up with others is encouraged and required even at very low levels. Dungeons are difficult and strategy and performance actually matters. Even clearing deadmines or Rfc feels like an accomplishment because it took a real effort to do it. Relationships between players is important and making friends and helping each other out is necessary. Its not a case of nostalgia for me , its that the game feels alive and your interactions with others and the way you conduct yourself really matters.
+MurderScenePhoto great fucking post
+MurderScenePhoto What server do you play on ? I'd love to join ? Kronos ?
+Bamox yea kronos 1, havent been on in a couple weeks as they are migrating to new protected server hosts after relentless ddos'ing. Should be back up within a day or two possibly sooner. If you get on add me to friends "Cromfaeyr" dwarf warrior, Ill sort you out with some bags and stuff
Wow.. such a nice guy ..I only asked for your server and you are offering help .. World needs more men like you .
+Bamox The difference between a vanilla player and a WoD player :P
I'm glad you like the idea of legacy servers
The whole story at around 7:20 I experienced that on Nostalrius. I was in STV and was killing some tigers, then a rogue came out of nowhere and I was saved by a fellow adventurer.
I genuinely feel sorry for anybody who didn't play WoW in its prime. You might have laughed at us back in the day and called us nerds, but now we laugh at you because you missed out on basically the greatest time in gaming history so far. I have had some of my best moments playing that game when it used to be good.
I didn't even laugh at anyone, my parents just wouldn't pay 15 a month for me...
PaDesai98 FeelsBadMan
***** I got to play a bit in cata, and most of mop which were both miles ahead of what we have now.
I met quite a few friends in the early days of WoW... Now it's just so anti community that it doesn't feel social at all =/
No it wasn't
hotted and swifty are secretly playing on vanilla servers and having a blast :3
hahaha I bet
+Derian Tungka .......like Kronos-WoW ...even if it's having server problems lately and "they're working on it"
+TehObLiVioUs if you want it to stay alive stop saying its name
When people like Swifty which are very cautious streamers when it comes to these touchy subjects comes out and expresses their excitement for Legacy servers then there's nothing else needed to be done other than Blizzard finally start working towards a solution. I'm happy Swifty jumped on board after a while.
When legendary items were actually legendary.
+Threeninesix when rare items were actually rare.
That feel when Blizzard has so low standards that they try to lure people back into their game by giving everyone the most iconic and legendary weapons of the Warcraft universe FeelsBadMan
Thumbs up for vanilla wow !!!
I'm getting the 2011-2012 IRL nostalgia back!
Keep it up Swifty, and good job as always :D
Here's the video we've been waiting for
+Kodi Lawson god damn right
LOOKING GOOD MAN
+Chilly G 👍
I miss being able to be hafl fury half arms stats, and when I first level my warrior I miss the warrior quest and getting my 1st blue warrior weapon,
the music you put at the end, man. The feels of leveling in ashenvale forest as a noob. Damn you blizz give us back vanilla WOW!!!!!
Hotted, you are spot on when you said "we shot ourselves in the foot"
damn swifty I've waited so long for this video. Glad to see that regular irl uploads are back too. Long time subscriber from 2008 here that never intends to leave. :)
+RVZER Awesome! Thanks for sticking around
+swiftyirl No Problem bro. We even met at gamescom 2012. I was in one of your fan meeting vids. Was a very special moment for me. :) Anyway just continue doing what you're doing I'll always watch no matter what.
Good to see regular videos are back :)
John Candy looks so young here
ha-ha
+Noctem i didnt know john candy was a blues brother. lol
haHAA
Im 18 years old now. When I was about 7 years old I played Burning Crusade for the first time. Even though I was young and didn't know much what to do. I still had am amazing time playing.. Its nostalgic to think about it but it was one of the very few games i've played where I felt the adventure in the flesh.
+GraphicalArtist ye ye nice try :D 11 years ago wow was on vanilla stage.
No shit fuck face.
lol kid stop trying to act tough over a keyboard.
Blacksnakey Why are you so mad? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I remember Swifty's first warrior video and the amazement it gave me to see his gear and strats. So much that i went with his Crul'shorukh + dagger build and it worked making me top 3 dps in the raid back then....
Swifty see how people loves such content ! keep it up we want u back :C
Wow Swifty still makes videos, haven't seen a swifty vid in like 3-4 years.
Hahahhaah literally everyone is passing Swifty
I heard a honk lmao
+Mark Shull Yeh better drive legal then drive fast and get a damn fine at 437,85 USD like i did ...
he isnt so swift is he now
I keep missing his stream and so I love getting to watch these vidoes
Omg this video brings back som many memories, Cheers Swifty and Hotted!
Awesome vlog Swifty, so much fun watching this. Thank you for putting out that content for us man!
+Jack O'Neill Thank you for watching!
omg im so impressed by you guys! talking with no filter and saying whats TRUE. Thanks :)
I've never really been to much into swifty but hes a pretty cool dude
+RackyanHD yeah i dont know why people started making fun of him back in mop. He isnt rank 1 but he is a really cool guy
+Phoov No kidding :)
+RackyanHD check out all of his channels
+RackyanHD wasn't he one of the first to create the one shot macro?
MegaDragonslayer1997 he was the og creator of it.
If you drive slow - drive in the right lane !
Loved the background music. Thanks for the video. :)
Started playing Wow at the end of vanilla. It took me about 3 months to get my Rogue to mx level and man tbh i hated the vague leveling quest system..So often i was lost. But i agree that i made a lot of friends during the journey.. Playing as a nightelf it took a lot of time to reach the capital City and indeed all the mobs where crazy hard to fight.. groups of mobs where mostly insta dead:-) But the game was so full of wonders.. I remember the first time i went into the City and was so thrilled when i found out there was something called the AH...i was able to sell my stuff and it felt so great!.. It was the start of an awesome experience that got me hooked for years, especially when i got invited one day in a raiding guild with lot of friendly ppl.. loved the game back then and i agree that the game at the moment feels very blend and abandon..
+Patsboem Exactly, i'd miss that so much!
The things you're telling those things are missing nowadays :(
Agree man, it wasn't perfect, but the game was very special back then..
12:50 Did someone say Thunderfury, Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?
Good crisp discussion!
Big respect for getting involved and sharing your thoughts.
agree with ya swifty
this is the greatest content you have provided for me since incredible warrior tricks 2 :D glad to have swifty and hotted onboard!
IWT 2 made me roll warrior, (pat and maydie also)
I love everything they're discussing in here. Its the same stuff everyone saying they miss and seeing someone with a big influence in the wow community sit there and talk about all the things that are wrong with retail wow and why vanilla was simply more fun its really great. Sometimes you don't need to go into huge detail into what fundamentally wrong with the game to understand what needs to be changed. Sometimes two veteran players can just reminisce about the good old days and its all clear
at level 60 on the sever lightinghoof we organized some pretty big world pvp events.
12:50 the last time I had that feeling is Wrath when I got Shadowmourne on my Ret Pally.
BTW it's the talent trees I missed the most
I met Hotted in berlin, awesome to see him with you again! I got a picture!
I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU PUT IN THE INN MUSIC HAHA LOVIN IT!
thanks for finally posting this video
So much Nostalrius talk, was I the only one who enjoyed the Lion's Pride Inn music? :3
That subtle Inn music, its like i was sat around in goldshire listening to a conversation between two Grand Marshalls
What were they talking about?
I remember when I used to watch all of the IRL videos back in the way with the old crew. The eating place in the beginning brought back those memories.
You should totally make more of these kinds of vlogs especially with Hotted.
I remember being a Enhancement Blacksmith Hammersmith Shaman with ▪2 x Dragon Hammer [200haste] chance on hit Hammers and Grulls Trinket on BC with Mongoose & Crusader and having to wait on Mom in BT till 79% because I took agroo. Took me 18 straight hours to forge them and I still remember and I'm proud of what I did, everybody is just a number today
So many memories man. I myself was a BC player and loved all the random adventures and farming I had to do to just get my brutal gear for pvp. Man those were the days
Awesome video! Please do more discussion videos. Love hearing what you guys have to say.
the example you gave about herbing, swifty, was totally on point
Was a lot of fun Swifty, I think you of all people would like vanilla wow again
Perfect music.
love this vid, good points on actual gameplay & toon creation, hope they touch base with the actual gameplay mechanics and toon customization that got taken way. i wanna be on your server! do it!!
Its kind of frustrating how all these people who placed their concerns individually about EVERYTHING that all the major streamers, top players, etc are all spouting about now, were shunned, driven away, told to shut up on the forums. Flying mounts, LFR, level boosts, etc. were all the reasons people quit. Blizz created a divide of old players and new players, changing the game so much that they drew in a new generation of players who were used to the freebies and unchallenged world.
Around 7 Minute mark, Swifty even talks about this.
For years I have been saying flying mounts ruined this game, it was the initial downfall of WoW, it was a quick fix to keep people drawn in, but if they had focused their resources elsewhere instead of trying to please short sighted people the game would still have long lasting players. Blizz needs to let people who have inactive accounts post on the forums, and you'll see how the tables will turn from shaming, downvoting, etc everything about why people quit to praise.
+Patrick Strong Preach! Wish I could throw out my own voice on the forums, but that's not going to be happening. D:
Honestly I don't feel like flying mounts really ruined the game all that much. Were they necessary? Probably not. But BC generally provided enough ground based content that people would stay off their mounts long enough to interact, ESPECIALLY with Quel Danas and many of the isle dailies that forced you to go around the map.
Also keep in mind that mounts were still difficult to get. The initial ones you got were only 60% speed, so many people would still use their epic ground mounts to get place to place since they were just faster, with the obvious exception being when they needed to go over a mountain.
In my opinion WoW started to fall off when they started designing the game world around said flying mounts, instead of the ground based ones.
***** You are right. It was after TBC. But people expressed their concerns of the dangers involving flying mounts right from the get go. Especially if you came from a PVP Sever. Blizz wanted to please the masses, adding arena, new battlegrounds, and noticed how popular world PVP was. Well, when it did get going. They added some really cool world PVP objectives, but then also boasted these flying mounts, which compromised world PVP so much so, it literally killed it.
And, well you know the rest I am guessing, Wrath came out and was catered around flying around the world and exploring the world with flying mounts, they were to far in deep with their flying mounts, they just kept going.
I would return in an instant to WoW if they made a legacy WOTLK server
+Lord Balan - Warmane.
+Lord Balan i dident play vanilla i just play wotlk cata and wod.
wotlk was amazing and i went full sad when i hear of cata coz i want to play more watlk, i just duel and duel all the time in elwyns forest and was the best. In cata all of that was dead and when i play wod that was just horrible, the social part of the game fall apart, just play 1 month.
+Misha Why was duelling dead in Cata? I remember I stood in Elwynn forest duelling my friends and others
Lurifix Jownass but a lot less than in wotlk
wrath should come back seeing how during vanilla almost no one did raids. the top elite players few seen naxx
Rank 14 - was God Mode. but to obtain that god mode took a while. People would respect you and bow. Epic gear was something.
+sethlan Nostalrius was full of Rank 13 warriors with bwl weapons and 4 5 healers behind them, bgs were unplayable, overgeared no lifers camping them for 1 year+.... premades were a real trouble to fun on that server sigh... i did rank 11 afking a lot couse of them... going more then rank 11 alone was impossible couse of premades and how the honor system works in vanilla.... and there were nothing to bow, they just was winning bgs in 5 minutes becouse of gear and healing.
+z i z z u Preach
It is true nothing to preach
nice music at the end
I can never figure out what that restuarant is called? t-one-a-flats? thats how i hear it
+Matstar95558 aa Tijuana Flats
+Matstar95558 aa tee-a-one-a flats would be the phonetic name
+Matstar95558 aa yep tee-one-a-flats right way to pronounce it Kappa
private servers are unfortunately run really bad, during nostalrius release the developers had "forgotten to implement" ragnaros when we cleared to it expecting to get server first that night... luckily we got it 2 days later when they finally implemented Rag and majordomo, only the next surprise was they had "forgotten to implement" his entire loot table :D proof = grizzly vs ragnaros
this was a nice watch, agree with all you guys, playing on a private server right now with a bunch of friends, and it's extremely fun
Locks could stealth detect, you quested for mounts, gold was hard to gain, demons you had to pay for the spells. That was fun the difficulty and comradery of companions to help achieving things
Man i love these videos where you and talk , so old school swifty
Swifty , this is how you get back to your old content! keep it up
Whats the name of the song at 06:10??? Been koking for days
That epic wow music in the background got me right in the feels
Never played vanilla back in the day. Still loved playing on nostalriius. Wow hasn't been that fun for me since TBC(when i started)
wow a reason to watch a swifty video again
I can not describe with words how fun Nostalrius was, I started playing there like a week after release, because it was chaotic when it first released..
I have NEVER had that much fun in any game, and the amount of gameplay you get, you have to crawl your way up to 60, and I am not a leveling guy, but leveling, mixed with World PvP is just amazing!
Then when you hit 60, you farm your pre-raid BiS so you can start raiding Molten Core and move up to ZG, BWL, Naxx etc.
And ofcourse, when you're not raiding, you play BG's to climb ranks, farm gold out in the world, so you could afford enchants, consumables for raids (consumables for raids was expensive as hell, if you wasn't a herbalist / alchemist).
And the world PvP, oh wow, don't get me started there, so damn fun.
I miss it so much, all the memories.
But the thing I miss THE MOST is the community, every server had its own little community, I played on Nostalrius for over a year and I somehow knew "everyone". I ran past people in the world and I remembered them from different, one guy that ganked me for hours, another one that always stole my mining nodes etc.
Love you man! Been watching you for atleast 5 years now and you make me happy every single time I watch your videos.
Keep it up! :D
This type of video is what make you special swifty, not stupid stream highlights.
I really love watching these videos. Swifty is so positive in life in rubs off. Makes me feel better when I'm feeling down. You're definitely a role model!
How do I find this Kungin video u keep bringing up?
Great talk, I love your new videos Swifty :)
I started playing on WOTLK (around the ulduar patch). Those times were awesome, the people that i met doing dailies and the weekly quests for Frost badges are people that i still talk to (we kept in contact for playing different games).
You needed to be social and find a group of people with " /y LF healer to run dungeons" or "LF BS or JW to make me X thing" in Dalaran, i loved that.
I remember when i first got to lvl 80, people in my guild was willing to help even if they already had raid gear and had to walk to the dungeon's entrance. We were a community that helped each other in our journey.
What i do understand is that maybe blizzard is doing the game "easier" because the hardcore gamers from then now have jobs, or a family and different responsibilities and we can't spend that much time in the game anymore, but I would rather play just a couple hours and work for something, that just sit alone in an "MMO" waiting for the queue to pop.
Those are a few things that i miss ....
Holy shit this was amazing to watch glad to have these kind of Vlogs back and with Hotted!
every time i come back to watch Swifty . I feel the need to play wow again :)
Vanilla - "Ohh you got the thunderfury OMG where did you get that?!?!"
Legion: "Ohh Your got the Ashbringer OMG so does every single other person who plays this class and I !"
+brian h Βecause everyone has to be a special little snowflake in today's WoW. But because everyone turned into that no one really is, ironic right? haha
hey Swifty, love these videos again man
That mother flower just swore :o
hotted hit a huge point there. "we like working for gear" that is exactly what i miss in this game. i HATE the fact that i am fully geared over the weekend. it just makes it boring. i liked that excitement and dedication i had to put in order to get an advantage over others. good days, real gearing system.
you are the best for playing the night elf music in the background :)
Thanks for stream bombing me on Nost when I was leveling my mage! Made my day Swifty!
Some people want things given to them... some people want to earn it.... hard to cater to both in the same game without having servers with different rules..
I'm a little older now than in my day of playing WoW. I had lots of time and earning gear through hard work felt amazing. Unfortunately I don't have the time anymore like I used to. For me raid finder is perfect so that I can hop on, experience the content, and get off. How I wish I still had the time I used to because those days were amazing.
Right on dude
Thank you for making this video and talking about your opinion its great to hear.
I just realized, Swifty's dislikers are getting lazy or they have noticed that he does good content and they are hating him for no reason.
+Lauri Selki BlueSigh why waste hate on a mid level (at best) youtuber? Thats the most logical reason.
Now with Swifty supporting legacy servers i think it is possible :D
I remember Back when I had to have friends and guildies help me get my Dreadstead. That was an adventure of it's own. Now it's like 20g and the mount is yours
Building up to the lower tier PvP gear and actually finally getting it. One of the best achivements for me in Vanilla wow.
you guys actually suggested what i did on the ion updated legion interview with jesse cox on Legacy Servers =)
Damn that Teldrassil music always makes me nostalgic :')
awesome video swifty and hotted :)
+valtteri92 Glad you enjoyed it
This video reminded me so much of the old days :')
remember how u won wintergrasp ? whole raid flew in to last area with mounts and gg
Swifty is back in shape !
Gahh! What was the Silithus quest chain where you killed mobs for pages, summones more mobs and kept farming up till you got spawn with epic loot? I spent DAYS doing that and pvping. Shout out to Bubbles, Elfie and Jang.
I had a T1 druid and felt boss. T3 people literrly destroyed AV solo. I remember seeing a 8/9 T3 shaman standing in front of the pack just keeping at least 15 people alive by himself :'). glorious times
Good banter boys!