*Ya gotta bring me along for one of these trips sometime.* The Hudson Line to Poughkeepsie is easily the most beautiful commuter rail route in the United States, it's been covered before but would be excellent for a report!
I like the double doors better. The first M 1 cars were similar to the subways R 44 & R 46. The doors don't chime ding dong like the subways but that whistle like bell when M 1 cars & beyond sound like. Glad you did this video. I love these rail cars a whole lot. 👍✅⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Good video but a few corrections are in order. Firstly, the M7s didn't replace the M3s, or if they did, only in really small numbers. Metro North got enough M7s to replace their aging New York Central era ACMU cars (Air Conditioned Multiple Units) and their Penn Central era M1A cars. Though the latter were almost indistinguishable from the M3s so there's legitimate room for confusion. Secondly, the M3s did get an interior overhaul in the past 10 years or so. Don't know if they'd had the faux-wood Formica paneling that some of the New Haven line cars had, but the seats were changed in color from the alternating navy blue and maroon (like on the New Haven line and M1/M3s on long island, to the lighter blue scheme you see there. They also got massive improvements to air conditioning so the windows were sealed. Thirdly, I'm less sure of this but I don't think it has been decided by Metro North what to replace the M3s with. I could be wrong and it may be that they've got options of the M9 model, but my last info was that Metro North was getting the M3s another refurbishment while they consider long term options.
My best guess of the double doors is a mix of - Dwell time: MNRR seems to favor frequency ofer capacity, seeing as it doesn't operate any bilevels and many of its non-electric trains have center doors on the cars - Subway Similarity: It seems the rounded ends are the only thing these old Metropolitans have with the Subway's now-oldest cars
It is not confirmed if the M3As will be will replaced by the M9s 100%, they might replace them with M11s because the pandemic certainly delayed the possibility of M9s being possible and the M3As are in much better health than their younger counterpart M3s on the LIRR. They could last at least another 5 years or so
I had read that Metro North was in the process of restoring some of their M3As because of the pandemic delays, which would lead to them being replaced by M11s like you said. I may be misremembering that information, but I seem to remember hearing something like that.
@@LonestarTrips the double door was use on All metropolitan fleet because their metro sister R44/R46 called Metro commuter use them and to allow more people to board
There's no such thing is no m10s . From what I understand that the M9AS from the Metro North railroad will definitely replacing all the M3AS on the Metro North railroad. However the M9AS for metro North are definitely gonna have the same exact design just like the M9 s just like the Long Island railroads R211as /TS just like the Brand New R262/as .
M3as are honestly not that rare to find these days especially during rush hour but it will be sad to see them eventually get replaced by the m9a in the future. They are much better maintained than the LIRR counterpart m3. Although, the M3s were taken out of service for like almost 2 years now
4:51, the interiors are not the same as when they were built. After the M7s were put into service, Metro-North changed their M3A's interior to match them. The LIRR's M3's have their original interior.
3:23 - 3:24 and those people would be stupidly ignoring the 2006 memo saying it's allowed. Luckily, most of the people I encountered were cool - last time I got to ride the M2 prior to their retirement, for instance, even got some honks of the horn from the engineer! Once had a very hostile engineer back in 2009 whilst watching trains in Mamaroneck - even threatened to call the department of homeland security on me (I called his bluff, he was full of shit) - week later, the prick harassed me again, and I just snapped, replying "hey, kiss my ass." Not sorry, if someone is gonna be THAT hostile, respectfulness is off the table.
I was fairly certain I was allowed to have a camera up, but I didn't want any trouble, so I took it down when asked. But as far as hostile guards go, I didn't have any problems with them, and honestly, most people seemed as friendly as ever. I did, however, have an Amtrak guard argue with me about filming while I was at Princeton Junction, saying I wasn't allowed, which is ridiculous because it's public property, plus I was _techinically_ a ticketed passenger at the time, so I have no idea what is problem was.
It’s probably just a liability issue. Filming is only mentioned as an excuse, however should an accident occur while you’re in the front filming means a potential costly lawsuit and settlement.
At 2:56 you said tell you why the M3A have double leaf doors because they were a joint order that was supposed to resemble the metro R44 and R46 order at the time it was the 60s and 70s they were plans to make expansions across the entire metro system and commuter system in between that with the interchanging lines between the metro system and commuter system so that LIRR and MNRR can operate from 42nd time Square station out to the suburbs and your daily N train coming from the City out Woodside but the stock market crash of 1975 mess any plan or that ever happening
It will definitely happen I tell you that right now. The M3AS is not going to last forever. Just like they got rid of the M2s M4s M6s . Another thing to the metro North railroad is definitely getting chargers locomotives real soon.
I don't think all of them are retired yet. I think the interior of Metro North's M3A's have been refurbished. LIRR M3's still have their 1980s interiors.
Not really retired because the M3S from Long Island railroad has returned back in service because the M9S we're delayed from the delivery s and the M9AS for metro North and the R211as R211TS and the R262/AS for the A devisin iRT lines.
Another thing to the Long Island railroad is going to croton Harmon for a repair and Long Island got permission from the metro North railroad for some long island Rail Road could go for a car wheels inspections up in croton Harmon shops because I had read something about it this morning.
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*Ya gotta bring me along for one of these trips sometime.* The Hudson Line to Poughkeepsie is easily the most beautiful commuter rail route in the United States, it's been covered before but would be excellent for a report!
I'll have to check it out next time I'm in the NYC area!
I used to ride a Budd car on Metro North between Bridgeport and Waterbury, my hometown, and the last stop on Metro North. Good times!
On M3/M3A trains, I love watching through the front window
Double doors close faster, which reduces station dwell times. Hardly any commuter trains outside the US have single doors.
I like the double doors better. The first M 1 cars were similar to the subways R 44 & R 46. The doors don't chime ding dong like the subways but that whistle like bell when M 1 cars & beyond sound like. Glad you did this video. I love these rail cars a whole lot. 👍✅⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Good video but a few corrections are in order. Firstly, the M7s didn't replace the M3s, or if they did, only in really small numbers. Metro North got enough M7s to replace their aging New York Central era ACMU cars (Air Conditioned Multiple Units) and their Penn Central era M1A cars. Though the latter were almost indistinguishable from the M3s so there's legitimate room for confusion.
Secondly, the M3s did get an interior overhaul in the past 10 years or so. Don't know if they'd had the faux-wood Formica paneling that some of the New Haven line cars had, but the seats were changed in color from the alternating navy blue and maroon (like on the New Haven line and M1/M3s on long island, to the lighter blue scheme you see there. They also got massive improvements to air conditioning so the windows were sealed.
Thirdly, I'm less sure of this but I don't think it has been decided by Metro North what to replace the M3s with. I could be wrong and it may be that they've got options of the M9 model, but my last info was that Metro North was getting the M3s another refurbishment while they consider long term options.
My best guess of the double doors is a mix of
- Dwell time: MNRR seems to favor frequency ofer capacity, seeing as it doesn't operate any bilevels and many of its non-electric trains have center doors on the cars
- Subway Similarity: It seems the rounded ends are the only thing these old Metropolitans have with the Subway's now-oldest cars
It is not confirmed if the M3As will be will replaced by the M9s 100%, they might replace them with M11s because the pandemic certainly delayed the possibility of M9s being possible and the M3As are in much better health than their younger counterpart M3s on the LIRR. They could last at least another 5 years or so
I had read that Metro North was in the process of restoring some of their M3As because of the pandemic delays, which would lead to them being replaced by M11s like you said. I may be misremembering that information, but I seem to remember hearing something like that.
No tge m3 for the metro north will have to replaced by the m7s
@@LonestarTrips the double door was use on All metropolitan fleet because their metro sister R44/R46 called Metro commuter use them and to allow more people to board
@@leoreiffen8753 The M7as had replacing by the M Series that used to run by New York central back in the 60s .
There's no such thing is no m10s . From what I understand that the M9AS from the Metro North railroad will definitely replacing all the M3AS on the Metro North railroad. However the M9AS for metro North are definitely gonna have the same exact design just like the M9 s just like the Long Island railroads R211as /TS just like the Brand New R262/as .
M3as are honestly not that rare to find these days especially during rush hour but it will be sad to see them eventually get replaced by the m9a in the future. They are much better maintained than the LIRR counterpart m3. Although, the M3s were taken out of service for like almost 2 years now
Don't forget we have the M9AS are definitely coming soon on the metro North railroad to replace all the M3AS on the Metro North.
@@leecornwell5632definitely not soon, they don’t even have design plans for the M9As yet!
4:51, the interiors are not the same as when they were built. After the M7s were put into service, Metro-North changed their M3A's interior to match them. The LIRR's M3's have their original interior.
3:23 - 3:24 and those people would be stupidly ignoring the 2006 memo saying it's allowed.
Luckily, most of the people I encountered were cool - last time I got to ride the M2 prior to their retirement, for instance, even got some honks of the horn from the engineer!
Once had a very hostile engineer back in 2009 whilst watching trains in Mamaroneck - even threatened to call the department of homeland security on me (I called his bluff, he was full of shit) - week later, the prick harassed me again, and I just snapped, replying "hey, kiss my ass." Not sorry, if someone is gonna be THAT hostile, respectfulness is off the table.
I was fairly certain I was allowed to have a camera up, but I didn't want any trouble, so I took it down when asked. But as far as hostile guards go, I didn't have any problems with them, and honestly, most people seemed as friendly as ever. I did, however, have an Amtrak guard argue with me about filming while I was at Princeton Junction, saying I wasn't allowed, which is ridiculous because it's public property, plus I was _techinically_ a ticketed passenger at the time, so I have no idea what is problem was.
@@LonestarTrips Hey some people walk around with tree trunks up their asses, what can I say? 😂
It’s probably just a liability issue. Filming is only mentioned as an excuse, however should an accident occur while you’re in the front filming means a potential costly lawsuit and settlement.
@@alexs.818 IMO it'd fall apart if people still are able to stand at the front to just watch.
4:42 No they were refurbished in the early 2010’s
At 2:56 you said tell you why the M3A have double leaf doors because they were a joint order that was supposed to resemble the metro R44 and R46 order at the time it was the 60s and 70s they were plans to make expansions across the entire metro system and commuter system in between that with the interchanging lines between the metro system and commuter system so that LIRR and MNRR can operate from 42nd time Square station out to the suburbs and your daily N train coming from the City out Woodside but the stock market crash of 1975 mess any plan or that ever happening
great video!
Are these still in service in 2024? Would like to ride one.
Nice video! The bathroom is insane
The M9AS is still coming for metro North.
Ya bring some medium bottle of spray cleaner I’ve done it it’s easy to do no more smell
The M3's will be here for awhile, they're still in service
The M9AS for metro North railroad will definitely be replacing all the Budd cars M3AS M1AS on the Metro North railroa d very soon
Starting appreciateing the M3AS and the M1As on the Metro North railroad while they are in passenger service.
What ever happend with the m9a?
Not Happening
It will definitely happen I tell you that right now. The M3AS is not going to last forever. Just like they got rid of the M2s M4s M6s . Another thing to the metro North railroad is definitely getting chargers locomotives real soon.
Are all of Metro Norths M3's retired?..... Werent the M3's seats originally red and blue and some M3's got M7like makeovers??
I don't think all of them are retired yet. I think the interior of Metro North's M3A's have been refurbished. LIRR M3's still have their 1980s interiors.
None except 2 cars are retired, there's still lots of time left because I don't think the M9A order is gonna be coming anytime soon
Has the M3 already been retired on the LIRR side?
the lirr m3's been retired for over 2 years now
Not really retired because the M3S from Long Island railroad has returned back in service because the M9S we're delayed from the delivery s and the M9AS for metro North and the R211as R211TS and the R262/AS for the A devisin iRT lines.
WE also miss the M2S M4s M6S on the Connecticut metro North railroad.
You know that the Long Island railroad is coming to Grand Central terminal Madison Avenue station in December.
Another thing to the Long Island railroad is going to croton Harmon for a repair and Long Island got permission from the metro North railroad for some long island Rail Road could go for a car wheels inspections up in croton Harmon shops because I had read something about it this morning.