California announces largest land return in state's history
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- California has announced the largest return of land in state history. The act comes amid a larger movement to return land to local Indigenous tribes, letting people reconnect with their ancestors' land and conserve the area. Michelle Miller has more.
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I pray the indigenous tribe is successful in restoring that forest. Methods like this could help heal the environment worldwide.
they use the burning method a lot in africa
@@magnusgranskau7487 Good to know.
Africa is a whole continent my guy. Which country?@@magnusgranskau7487
the same in Australia. Each tribe has own 'fire guard' who knows where, when to set small fires in order to prevent one HUGE fire. This is their practice for ages. Smart people!
Scientists are learning that the Brazilian rainforests was not only occupied by people for thousands of years before Europeans arrived in South America, but those ancient people were actively "farming" the forests in ways that were completely unfamiliar to Europeans, which led them to conclude that no one lived in the forest. New archeological finds are refuting that. It would seem the practices archeology is discovering with Brazil was wide-spread in the western hemisphere.
Yes but the new type of industrial farming is killing the rainforest sadly
@@truechaosmulala3831 OK. So what does that have to do with my post? You think ancient people were using modern industrial farming techniques?
@@Pulse992 it was talking about farming in the Brazilian rainforest
@@truechaosmulala3831 that’s not what my post was about.
This reminds me of a film/book called "Salt of the Earth" .. have you seen it❓️
I always thought that the native farming methods should be tried on a large scale.
Some of the methods here make no sense though. Lichen and moss have a neutral effect on trees, there is no reason to scrap the tree to get rid of it. It’s silly.
this is so dumb... the right of conquest exists, every tribe has conquered other tribes and stolen their land. who owned the land before this tribe? they should give it back to them... who owned it before them? they should give it back to them. you see the issue with this idiotic idea? collective ancestral guilt is dumb, stop punishing or rewarding modern day humans for something that happened 100+ years before they were alive. in SD the Lakota Sioux took the land from the Cheyenne, the Cheyenne took the land from the Kiowa and the crow, they took it from the Comanche and Arapaho. this concept of moving ownership to the most recent owner is idiotic and runs into many issues. the right of conquest has always been known throughout humanity, you only own the land if you can defend it and hold onto it, if you cant someone else will own it.
Native Americans are all indigenous to the Americas, even though different tribes. Africans are all indigenous to Africa, although different tribes. Same with Asians. White Europeans are indigenous to Europe, with many different countries and tribes.
@@AngieWaltersTorusnative Americans ARE NOT INDIGENOUS to the Americas...Indians are.
The California government bought the land using taxpayer dollars to "give back" to these people (no shade on the people -- I would take thousands of acres of free land, too). It sounds like it may have done this in a push toward the adoption of UNDRIP: The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Act. In Canada, the Act involves Indigenous sovereignty and shared decision-making between Provincial and Indigenous governments. In your worst nightmare, imagine where this will go if enshrined in legislation in Canada and the U.S.
@@AngieWaltersTorus Native Americans are from the Asian steppe.
Great example of what’s wrong with “journalism”. Less fashion, more facts. This story misrepresents them.
Lost me at “buy back”. How does one buy back their stolen land 😢
Yea stolen from who when from which nomadic hunter gathering tribe.
The land is a natural garden, it's all we need. We've forgotten how to care for Mother Earth and just use her until there's no more. We are reaching our limit on 75% of the surface land.
Yeah it's all you need if there's just 1200 of you. There's 8.1 Billion people on this planet.
Now it’s Mexico 🇲🇽 needs the rest back
It never belonged to them. Learn history
@@Tater-Skinz None of those are coming back to claim anything.
Then you can fight the American Indians for California.
What happened to the actual Copper Colored People? These are not the people described as Americans in the 1828 Webster dictionary! Look up American in the 1828 dictionary and it describes a totally different people!
Looks like sum Not Right !
Such a great story--this man is walking wisdom
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For those thinking they paid for the land, they got the land for free, and California paid for the land (I know, the taxpayers paid for it, we all know that) . here is why. According an article at The Guardian, it was privately owned, then “Western Rivers Conservancy, a Portland-based environmental group, etched a deal to purchase the land and hand it over to the US Forest Service. Working on behalf of the tribe, the conservancy secured a $4.5m grant from the California Natural Resources Agency to cover the land purchase and studies of the area.” So California Natural Resources Agency paid for it.
Thank you for sharing accurate facts. Neat that they got it back
Awesome 😎
And......
Thank you 🙏 for sharing your knowledge.
I was going to search any article to learn the facts.
I have been to these beautiful places in Monterey county. It just beautiful place and peaceful. I hope they will preserve it nicely.
Good! This is the right thing to do.
This is what the Northern Cheyenne Tribe is doing as well. We seek out land and purchase it the moment it comes for sale, even if it puts us into dire straights. For example, we bout part of our sacred land in Sturgis SD, a company was trying to purchase the land for a bar during the Sturgis rally. However, we found the money and kept it safe. Now we use it as a national conservatory and will be there for our children in the future.
I’m from South Dakota. Kudos to you. Makes me happy you saved the land. I wish more could be done about the Black Hills in total. Allow indigenous their sacred land who can allow visitors some time in their park (if they follow the rules about caring for the land).
Good work.
And on the bright side. The community doesn't have to worry about gentrification either.
@@RBartsy They will never get the black hills back. You really think you could make everyone from Rapid City for one of many cities there, just walk away from their homes and businesses. Never happen.
What isreal did
A bar would be better..a casino even smarter…I thought native were smart😊😅😢😂❤
I know there are tens of thousands of real estate investors who are crying buckets of tears over this decision and my heart is warmed by it.
Nah, taking that land off the market makes everything that is already built more valuable. In the coming years the baby boomers will die in great numbers and their property will hit the market like a tsunami.
Amen 🙏
Why it's just going to be a casino now
@@troyrager1352Natives getting to steal back from the white man
@troyrager1352 do not let them build anything, keep the land natural and beautiful
As a person with Abenaki blood in my veins I am crying tears of joy for these people, their land and all the life it holds.
They should let homeless camp and farm on it help the poor
@@privateconfidential4775 Kind of like the Commons in Medieval England? It sounds nice but how many homeless folk even know farming. Also, not all land should be used for farming or building houses. Some should be left as natural lands. But fi the food and job is really needed, you could use more natural and sustainable farming techniques. Rather than large fields, you might be able to cultivate from natural lands. Won't give you a lot of food but just enough.
The elders taught us! That's something you don't hear anymore!!
What we do not hear is that the "founding fathers " are in fact " the elderly" of the modern American.
We hear about the "founding fathers" when there is a school shooting and when a murderer defends himself.
The mayans belive that the first ppl where made of trees i love my natives brothers
That’s because it is pretty much always a lie.
No details in what was taught and how he uses it now to actually work the land today, is any work even happening by his family in any way on that land? Is he living off of the potatoes and carrots he mentioned or does he shop at Costco - Safeway like everyone else? We know the answer.
They should let homeless camp and farm on it help the poor
A true story of hope. The land will now be in good hands. However, we also need to be aware of weather manipulation by the powerful with their new technologies in a quest to impoverish.
They should let homeless camp and farm on it
Congradulations to the Tribe & People ! I sincerely hope that all indigenous people on this continent continue to regain control & stewardship of their ancestral lands. Maybe they can help Mother Earth heal enough to not evict and forcibly terminate the existence of Human Beings before She has no choice.
*I live near Thousand Oaks & always wondered why the older oak trees look different than the younger* Quite interesting! 😌
Young trees grow straight up to outcompete other trees for available sunlight. The winner of this competition can then branch out. Man has nothing to do with this other than selective thinning to accelerate the process. You can find the same shaped trees in the middle of dense forest as well.
@@rtxhoneybees it’s a beautiful process. Some of these trees are 1,000 years old!!!
The difference between California land management and Native American land management is that California lets the brush become overgrown, California tries to stop fires when they occur - vs. Native American land management that uses fire as a preventative tool to keep the forests healthy. Forest fires are a natural part of that ecosystem for many tens of thousands of years, the Native Americans understanding of this is a deep part of their culture.
They tear down land to build casinos
My uncle was a fireman for 30+ years here in southern Cali. The firefighters always knew this, but the ancestral Karens would write letters to politicians to make sure every brush fire was instantly extinguished. And the brush fires kept getting bigger as the brush was no longer growing in a patchwork with wildflowers but almost as a monocrop of kindling.
@@germanshepherd6638 There is no casino being built on these 14,000 acres in this video. There are 574 federally recognized tribes in the U.S. Of those, 245 tribes operate 511 casinos. There might be more native casinos - but for the obvious impediment: that most reservations are inconveniently located on desolate pieces of land that for the most part can't even support simple farming. The dig against American Indians for their casinos is a tired trope - they have simply seized upon a competitive advantage to build tourism to places that tourists would never normally go. Lets face it, many Indian casinos are located on ugly pieces of land with no real beauty.
@@jurban7998 This!
Yeah maybe. But wonder howmany of those fire went out of control.
It’s about time! The land in the right hands will provide a future for generations forever. This has to happen more around the entire country.
Give them the entire state, they may be able to run it better than Newsome.
Definitely!😊
You haven’t been to Indian reservations… worst run places
The first ones to criticize are always the last ones to volunteer to lead.
@@TruthBeTold121212 No one is forcing those seniors to gamble away their savings.
@@cs0345yeah still shows a lot about our native american elders if they blow their money instead of investing into land and passing it down seven generations like they should be if they are so about the land white people invest into land and pass it down
The Indigenous people of Northern Wisconsin do forestry and keep it beautiful there! This is beautiful land, and yes, the trees will connect with humans! Thank you to the tribal people for sharing this information with us, and I am thrilled you were able to buy this land, which I am assuming was a huge amount of money! This is fabulous news!
it's also true that many cultures all over the world have known for a millennia that trees are wise and can communicate if you listen. Now you read new findings how trees in natural settings are set up in groups/families. and all share resources. If one of the trees is cut down the others will siphon water and nutrients to it to keep the stump alive for decades. It's really fascinating.
I'm sick of this politically correct stuff. Who cares about worshiping the "noble savage". We settled territorial issues over 100 years ago, I don't think people really want to go opening old wounds again, things are never over. No more of this "giving back" nonsense. really, ENOUGH of it folks. Stop putting these people on pedestals and shaming your own.
@@peterbelanger4094 you should get your jealousy under control. Judgment of your people has started. If you don't believe me open your eyes to what is happening to your people's nations and it's only going to get worse due to y'all's behavior.
I hope they take better care of it than did California. I think the distinction of them buying it back should have been more clear rather than implying the state gave it back as a gift.
The media don't like the buy back concept. But in reality its the fair way.
If the tribe is exempt from the CA air quality regs they will be able to do controlled burns in the off-season. Depending on if they have the resources to conduct them. Tribal fire depts are pretty tiny and that is a lot of land to absorb and cover into a fire district fuels plan.
@@HerpDerpNV Sounds like a lot of red tape and not enough boots on the ground. Its a similar story in Australia.
There are plenty of Elders and others with knowhow willing to teach and supervise. It is just about getting things moving.
The state gave them the money to buy it.
@@mikeselbicky763 California state forest and land management policies.
California let them BUY the land back so the State does not have to pay for care to mitigate wild fires. Its a good thing. I hope folk will learn from what Aztlan's know.
So it has nothing to do with giving the land back but reducing risk.
The wild fires are started by many things
One of them are Cartel Chemicals
Cartel massive pot farms
Now Fent labs
California pot has illegal pesticides in it as well
The Cartels pot farms got burnt down
They need new land
do they have to pay property taxes?
What is "Aztlan's?"
What a beautiful place!
Too bad they only care about building a casino on it 😢
@@germanshepherd6638 Where's the evidence to prove this?
@@germanshepherd6638cry harder lol
@@TheLordOfNothing Look up Redding California. There's your evidence. Probably a lot of other places too,this is what I know. Also you wanted proof and I gave you a perfect example. What was your response? Oh right,to not acknowledge the evidence, nor my response and then try and sound like I should doubt what I have seen in my own town,in my own experience.
@@ritasaragosa3829 Your logic is "They did it so these people are gonna do it"
Do you not realize how that is flawed?
I’m happy for them. 😊
Yep! Me too! This is a transaction that should NOT have happened. They were here first and OWNED it before the white man came along and took it.
Imagine what would happen if we got onto a boat, landed in Europe, chased out the current occupants, planted a flag and proclaimed it ours ?
Sounds ludicrous huh? Well, that's exactly what happened. In all honesty we should be tenants and they should be landlords collecting a monthly rent.
I'm fully aware that this is old news but we all need to be reminded once and awhile so history never repeats itself. Unreal that it happened in the first place?
You can hand your home over to them now so you can feel better about yourself
Monterey is so beautiful!! That whole area and SLO county is beautiful
5:00 As a California plant biologist I haven't the foggiest idea why removing lichens and mosses would be beneficial. They are usually a neutral effect on trees, and are a form of biodiversity themselves. Gonna have to look into that
@@glenmorrison8080 Go talk to some elders. They may have some knowledge that has yet to be recorded in a book
They aren’t scientists.. maybe they think it’s bad because of tradition but no proof. In the south we have Spanish moss, it has a neutral effect and doesn’t make a difference to the health of the trees. And it’s beautiful
@@Goldenretriever-k8m The only thing I can think of is that they are just doing all the things they can think to do to make the trees respond like a fire happened. So maybe exposing the bark by removing lichens _might_ have some effect in a real fire, so they're doing that just in case. Not sure I think it's worth the damage to the lichens though.
@@bizygirl1 I would be really curious to learn more about why they remove the lichens. TEK is also usually shown to have good support when investigated with western science, so would be cool if someone tested that effect scientifically as well, so it could be added to the western ecological understanding. I would still be concerned about the lichens though. I love lichens. :)
@@glenmorrison8080 yeah, i love lichens and Spanish moss, not worth damaging them, they are kinda symbiotic. I think it’s kind of like an old wives tale kind of thing, removing them. It’s not scientific, the whole process is just traditional rather than scientifically studied
Being good Steward of the Earth 🌎 Is what will be blessed
They will grow tobacco.
@@Patrick-yh5yd cartel pot with toxins
@@Patrick-yh5ydyou already grow tobacco
The base of I appreciate the Father Feather that guided my innermost natural elements. Thank you for your ancestor, not forgotten
Congratulations. What a blessing for you all to receive your ancestral land.❤🙏
Happy for those who can and will truly care for this fabulous planet Earth.
Trees tell what went happened on the land
It’s California not Massachusetts
what? I don't understand what you're saying.
@@Alisu-qb3ot trees tell what happened on the land.
@@Alisu-qb3ot MA took all the land a long time ago
Old, dead trees are extremely important to biodiversity though. It's the same for undergrowth, etc.
Too bad they’ll tear them down for the sacred casino 😢
They are making up bs.
Not at the expense of the whole lot going up in a massive fire storm. A tree hollow is no protection then. Its about balance. People need to drop this false don't touch environmentalism.
Prescribed burns actually promote more botanical biodiversity in the undergrowth. Dead trees and fallen logs are indeed habitat. But this however does not justify not touching anything and letting the fuel load get out of hand. Fire storms are not good for any habitat.
You know what’s bad for biodiversity?
GIANT HABITAT DESTROYING FIREST FIRES
CA had a bounty on "Indian Hides" in the early 1900's ?
It's the U.S. Forest Service, not the "U.S. Forestry Service".
That sounds like a gift but it’s a huge responsibility & costs a lot of money to keep it up. It’s now the tribes responsible to take care of this land & protect it.
The land will take care of itself. Not a lot is needed besides a native park ranger and cleaning crew in case people trash the place.
@@Elvis-m3i in 50 years it will be a fire hazard mess
The Natives knew what they were doing long before the settlers came.
Yes once the settlers or land grabbers that is came they came with diseases and other horrifying things like white supremacy.
The settlers fed the world and still doing so Without modern farm and practices Most of the world's population would die you have know Damm idea what your talking about .
@@MidnightMoses-ow1ul The Native Americans were doing well with their farming practices. They had better practices than the settler/land grabbers.
@@MidnightMoses-ow1ulyou have ( no) know idea either!😅
@@tiahenry4743 they also fought and killed each other in vicious wars and raids for resources and slaves.
This is absolutely wonderful for these people ,I’m an 8th Cherokee ,my 5th gerat grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee ,these are noble ,incredible people .
Yep and so was the congress women who claim she was native, liberals lie and start wars.
1/8 th. lol
i wonder if it was consensual
@@yedidyah-jedshlomoh1533 This is nothing Funny 1/8 is 1/8 & therefore still has Cherokee Blood No matter the Amount ,Cherokee is Cherokee
An 8th Cherokee. So since I'm 1/4 lumbee that makes me more of an indian than you an look how white i am.
"Buy back" is equivalent to "sold", not "returned" land.
The land was private the state paid for it.
@@paxundpeace9970 NEGATIVE. The tribe pooled together the money to pay the state for the land. The state did not pay for anything on their behalf.
Thank goodness for these tribes and their care for the land. Blessings for all of them.
I like to see the land taken care of . But the story has a lot of misleading information . As an example , the two women sitting in a news room in a sky scraper in a huge city ( has never heard of farming trees ) ? You ever hear of an orchard ! The beautiful green park like setting will not look that way later in the summer when it gets hot & dry .
That is a very beautiful place...
Absolutely. Trees and green foliage is so much more beautiful than concrete, glass, and asphalt.
This touches my heart deeply. Trees are living beings with spirits. I am a very proud member of a group of American Indian people and they taught me their ways some of which I already knew but actually being accepted by them and first by my Indian Chief back in 2011 is still a great honor for me and I still attend their sacred ceremonies. Those lands will come back to life now.
@@wolfman3295 this isn't your "ways" it's the ways of basic forest management lol. You have serious delusions of Grandeur. You did not come up with this. This isn't new lol
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*KEEP BUILDING NATURE*
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Amen! We all need to chip in to do our part!
It's for the Cartels., do your research
North Dakota's 4 Tribes have been begging Biden to help them get rid of Cartels imbedded in their reservations.
The Lakota Chief was threatened by Sinaloa and backed out but the Blackfoot chief is still begging
Same going on her
You should see the chemical waste these Cartels poison the land with
Thousands of acres are run by Fent and Meth labs
Yea, if we can keep the liberal leftist and the climate change Nazis out of it
Actually it's a highly advanced construct run by robots ⚡🧲
I thought indigenous people believed no one owned the land???
I've heard people say that the land owns us. In places like California people own land, and they either share it or keep it for themselves. Sounds like this group will be sharing it
Very convenient for you ain’t it?
Give the whole thing back. New management could only improve the place.
Give it back to the people that murdered and trafficked in slavery?
@@SuperStoner86 Brother, who HASN'T done that?
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor exactly.
That's why I draw issue to labeling, native Californians or native Americans. If you're born here you're native!
I mean really how many generations does it take before some Karen considers you a "Native".... but I digress.
Thank you for your comment.
@@SuperStoner86 those injuns run a fine casino hotel and resort. I think California would be in good hands
@@SuperStoner86 apparently I'm not allowed to say "injuns" now
While I'm happy for them, they had to buy it back. They bought land stolen from them.
Edit: It looks like the land was paid for, but they specifically didn't pay for it, so that's good.
(NIV) Genesis 2:15: "The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it". The Native Americans are not Christians and yet they are the one doing what God had put man on Earth to do.
how far back do we want to go? If land is returned to one people that took that from another people, that took it from other people and so on at what point do historical injustices not matter anymore. Turkey 1000 years ago it was all Greek/roman do we give turkey back to Greece, Palestine back to the Greeks, romans or instead go back further to Israelites or Canaanites? Please elaborate when do historical injustices begin to matter?
bro dont look like he is living off of wild carrots and parsnips lmao
You mustn't point out the obvious hypocrisy.
@@thehazelnutspread Like how they killed and conquered land of weaker groups too. What SJW nonsense
In what way is that hypocrisy.@@thehazelnutspread
Who did the indigenous peoples take this land from, and aren’t they the indigenous people?
Indigenous means "Original Occupants Of The Area". Learn your own language.
Most indigenous people are not the first occupiers of their lands.Tribes were constantly at war and moving
@@jessallen7756 The "Ingenious" were the first to settle there and Claim it.
@@Absalon68 I am sorry that you couldn’t grasp the point of my comment. Sometimes emotions can create a blind spot. You don’t get to tell other people how they are allowed to express their opinions or thoughts. Your insults did nothing to further your argument, they just showed you to be incapable of constructive dialogue.
@@Absalon68the ones that the Europeans would've encountered , we call them indigenous , but history shows us that they weren't the first to occupy those lands as those tribes didn't exist far back into history
We need more of that. They should get more forests. Otherwise we could all go hungry if anything bad happens. I am connected to the trees and love them. They have a soul and they communicate. You must ask permission to hug a tree. They don't like people to just walk up and hug them.
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This is great news 👏👏👏👏
Indigenous people had conservation dialed in !
This land flourished and will again if we listen to tried and true practices of the indigenous peoples.
I am in tears, I am just so happy 💝 That land is gorgeous and now will continue to thrive 💗
Outstanding work and Grand Respect to this Tribe.. Magnificent landscape of trees is so impressive for the soul.. I love this bigtime 💕🇮🇸✌️😊💕 Thank's for sharing
What a much needed blessing for the natives and the trees💖💖💖
It’s awesome to see that their ancestors continue he’s to teach them their traditions and ways and work with nature ❤
being an alcoholic and drug addict?
@jeffcivjeep7 do you ever get tired of being a hater? Try having a talk with that person in your mirror.
peace
I'm SO glad! There is hope for California, after all. I have cruised and camped in Big Sur multiple times, and absolutely LOVE the place! I'm happy it is being returned to its original owners.
I hope they can move back on it
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏 Soooo Happy to Hear This!!! Blessings*
I’m so happy to hear such news for the natives who love the land and know it:) my eyes fill with tears as my heart feels with pure joy ❤congratulations 🎉
These people are larping. They dont live off the forest....they shop at whole foods
How do you know that? What's your evidence?
on both sides the people living today had nothing to do with what happened way back in history.....this is ridiculous giving deals to a group of people who had nothing to do with and are currently unaffected by what happened hundreds of years ago....same with the whole reparation thing
The hell are you talking about? They purchased the land. Who are you to tell anyone who they can sell land to?
But you are ok with local governments regularly selling public lands to corporations? Sometimes for a dollar!
Don't be ignorant; I know it's hard for you, but just don't!
What an incredible news piece and interviewed this was so interesting to learn about all the different ways that people have been managing the ecosystems around us for thousands of years it’s incredible. I’m glad this knowledge is being preserved and passed on because being good stewards of the earth is the only job we have.
Wow that is amazing congratulations to our native people given the land that was promised
United States of Mejico (Mexico) This is indigenous land. From Alaska to South America
.❤️❤️❤️👏👏👏 i’ve always had such a love for oak trees, especially the huge beautiful ones with a large canopy. The knowledge Native Americans have on how to care for and farm is so wonderful. I’m blessed to live near this area and hope to go to that specific meadow someday.
His "ancestors" pushed out people who were there even before them. Now how long before casinos and hotels are built? Are there any provisions to ensure that this land stays in its current condition?
Not all tribes build casinos
How can a forest be vulnerable to mother nature??
I caught that line too. Trying to pump up the importance of the article.
No it's how mother nature is being manipulated.
Because when mother nature sees that you do not appreciate her land she will bring her forces out to make you respect that land and now that people are back on it that will respect her and the land she provided things will get better for that area
Lightning and wind?
People that claim Native American ancestry to gain land should have to prove it.
They Native American did non invasive agriculture which required just as much work
Seems like the ultimate insult to be made to buy back land that was stolen from them
They didn't have to buy it back
@@James-kl4dz your right they could have just given it back for free
@@roberthepburn-gr4fq so you would do that?
It was never their land. These are ontologically distinctive generations of individuals who 'claim' other people's land on the basis of a romantic and esoteric spiritual attachment due to shared genotype.
The land had no site-specific use or occupation, it was not 'owned' because it did not even have an anthropogenic relationship to those vague, indeterminate, extinct generations of individuals the tribe identifies with. As such it could not have been 'stolen' in any real material sense from those extinct generations. The entire tree story is not based on any peer-reviewed scientific research.
@@roberthepburn-gr4fq No one is giving anything "back", this is a silly irredentist and romantic notion. This is a transfer. The land had no real material relationship to them or their ancestors. It was a forested area with no evidence of site-specific use or occupation.
The tree story-which is still not a site-specific use or occupation-lacks any peer-reviewed scientific evidence, and is just the imagination of one weird 'ecologist.'
A little over 100 years ago the tree's were harvested for heating fuel. Fire mitigation is a solution to wildfires.
Do you hate trees?
@@mikeprice4103 Well, no. Do you? I have a property that was severely overgrown. Once I realized someone was using the brush to spy on my front door I cleared as much as I could. By cutting and burning I not only reduced the possibility of a fire, I found three cherry trees. Now they produce fruit because they get light. The grass grows better to filter rain fall and improve the groundwater quality. The trees I left have grown significantly because there's not so much competition for light and water.
@@eliharp3576 Nice! You improved your property and safety plus free cherries!
@@mikeprice4103 You got it. I still wonder if there could have been other fruit trees. I cut a lot and did it by hand so I don't think so but you never know. I also learned that honey suckle is highly flammable. So, vines that grow up the side of a tree will carry a ground fire up like a wick into the top of the tree.
It's not very cold in that area.
Hope they keep it like this and not for casinos.
The elder explained why the Forest Service and Bureau of Land (mis)Management CAUSE the huge fires we get. They don't allow the smaller, natural fires to burn off the dead stuff.
I think they should actually live like native's though. No cars only horses, teepees, wear loincloths etc.
Thank you CBS for airing this! Warms my heart and soul. If we wanna learn how to live here sustainably it makes sense to ask the people who were here for thousands of years before….
I agree with you, in part, but tell that to the people of Lahena
Some of those oaks are 400 years old for sure
I doubt that very much
About time that the land was allowed to be brought back. Hopefully, they will take care of the land better than the State.
These lands belong to many awesome tribes. Treaties were broken! It's about time. Native hawaiians need their lands returned from the military! It's time! Our people need to live on our aina (land)!
If Hawaii wasn't a state with no US. it would be owned by China or Japan long ago. There would be no natives at all.
Yeah we know that there are edible plants in the forest we don't need native Americans to tell us that okay for real . Yeah we know all those foods are here now but we have better methods of farming now because we have to feed an entire nation of people not just a small tribe of you and five women .
i just came from Europe. This is my land now.
Lol!😂
Great to see how land management is finally going to some that know how through centuries of ancestral knowledge.
All of those trees are still there even without them owning it. So whoever did own it, also did take care of it.
I don't know if you know this but you do not have to take care of a tree for it to grow and stay alive 🤦 I planted oak trees 25 years ago and have never touched them since!
Learn your lesson and KEEP them buffalo soldiers out. They will sell you out again
What a gorgeous landscape. I’m from back east. I live in the west and I miss the huge giant oak trees of MI where I grew up.
Now they just have to try and keep migrants out 😢
The migrants from Mexico are descended from the native population that used to live there. Uh oh............
@@guzzijack9714, NO THEY'RE NOT, I grew up and lived there decades - still do!! There's a huge difference between the Spaniards, native central Americans, Native North Americans, Californios, European Caucasians, Illegal Invaders, etc.
No they're not! I've lived here for 6.6 decades! There's a huge difference between the Native Central Americans, Native North Americans, Californios, European Caucasians and others...
@@guzzijack9714 No, the new 10 million illegals in the last four years are from over 130+ counties. The lands have passed though the hands of many people. Without ownership the neighboring tribe can boot you off for resources and you have no way but war to retrieve it.
BIG AG has destroyed everything from Oxnard to Watsonville. The El Camino Real.
People would starve without modern agriculture
@@markhasenour12 modern agriculture has caused soil degradation as well as all the pesticides are doing a number on the ecosystems. Please be quiet with your wm saviour complex. Nobody wants to hear that bs anymore which is why things are rapidly changing in the world. What you people have been doing doesn't work anymore and has made the planet in its current state.
Ents? And they bought it like we all have to. Ca kissing it's own a$$ in attempt to signal virtue.
finally! but let’s tell the truth the indigenous people bought it!!! but glad they have it
they should be in charge of all the lands and waters
Thank you so much for this story. Please continue to share solutions focused stories like this!
I can't even get my 40 acre's and mule
I'm happy for the natives but I also agree with you.
I wonder how quickly a casino is going to be built.
Not all tribes build casinos
So its okay if everyone else builds casinos, but not them
God bless Us with Understanding and Wisdom in Heavens Garden on the Firmament. 🌞👍👍
Finally.
Thank you.
That takes a lot of Balls California 🦬
Sincerely Wyoming °~•.💙.•~°
Having been too many Indian reservations it’s just a mater of time it’s full of broken down cars, smoke shops, and drug addicts.
Did you ever think that happens because people were dispossessed of their land, their language, dignity and human rights? It's not inherent , it is a reaction to a sick oppressive racism that stole and broke people. Get educated.