Re-watching this and I'd say if running on the lower end, as with auto-calc reactors, a second chamber is likely to show a much larger benefit. In your chart a potential 25% increase in dKH means that you can reduce effluent by ~20% and thus CO2 loading by ~20%. Now actual impact on tank pH is another matter.
Great video as always, BRS. Would love to see a video on verifying the introduction of trace elements of various reactor medias. This could be tested pretty easily by setting up a couple reactors - one control, several with various medias (Reborn, ARM, and maybe on of the higher end pure marble chip types), and ICP the water at various time intervals to see what media introduce what elements in what concentrations. Adding carbon or other absorbant media to the control to simulate how things are consumed might also be cool. Not sure how we'd simulate trace consumption without hooking things up to a real tank, but hopefully the reactor media would add trace elements at a rate that is measurable, regardless of nothing being consumed. This would be relevant for not only reactor users, but also inform what other trace additions we might need to do when using specific reactor media.
Thank you for running these tests! I have wanted to know the answers since I set up a calcium reactor about 5 years ago. Adding a second chamber helped my tank because I can turn down the flow rate and have a higher alk in the effluent. Seemed like it helped my tank pH a lot. I am excited to see the results of the different media. I have only used ARM but have wondered if it would be beneficial to switch.
Actually, your calculation is wrong: having a much higher DKH at the exit mean that you don't need the same amount of outflow through the aquarium and therefore your PH won't be affected as much.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you showed a refugium. Show the affect on tank ph of dripping the solution into a refugium compartment vs the return area on a sump.
Having done this with cheto I can say it has virtually no impact unless you have a considerable amount of mass. Perhaps in an ats with the added air exchange would help more.
What about effluent going into some sort of container with an air stone and effect on the dkh and pH. The other thing I've wondered about before, but never tried, was to try to run the effluent through a deionizer column in an attempt to remove the co2, but leave the dkh. Don't think it'll work though, because science.
Would love to know what are the different results depending on the size of the secondary chamber. The Vertex has a smaller secondary whereas it’s more common to use same size as the first. Perhaps even go for a third chamber, but I’ve yet to really see anyone implement that.
I not bothered about dkh effluent aslong as mag and calc are ok I don't understand why people are measuring dkh on effluent it's a calc reactor isn't it aslong as calc is ok and mag I just buff my tank dkh in tank with soda ash
I have thrown out this idea before.. What would happen if You used a bottle of oxygen With a bubble counter, In the Secondary media chamber to see if it would raise ph. Reef fantasy or reef certainty?
It's really tilting to see a chart to not start with 0. In the alk chart it looks like alkalinity increase to more than double, but it's actually only by 23%. You should know better and don't do that ever again.
@@TheTrevor40 Nah, it's just these crazy specific topics. I don't have a calcium reactor. I never will. I get that some people will find this useful, though. And I do like watching video games too....
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Re-watching this and I'd say if running on the lower end, as with auto-calc reactors, a second chamber is likely to show a much larger benefit. In your chart a potential 25% increase in dKH means that you can reduce effluent by ~20% and thus CO2 loading by ~20%. Now actual impact on tank pH is another matter.
Great video as always, BRS. Would love to see a video on verifying the introduction of trace elements of various reactor medias. This could be tested pretty easily by setting up a couple reactors - one control, several with various medias (Reborn, ARM, and maybe on of the higher end pure marble chip types), and ICP the water at various time intervals to see what media introduce what elements in what concentrations. Adding carbon or other absorbant media to the control to simulate how things are consumed might also be cool. Not sure how we'd simulate trace consumption without hooking things up to a real tank, but hopefully the reactor media would add trace elements at a rate that is measurable, regardless of nothing being consumed. This would be relevant for not only reactor users, but also inform what other trace additions we might need to do when using specific reactor media.
Thank you for running these tests! I have wanted to know the answers since I set up a calcium reactor about 5 years ago. Adding a second chamber helped my tank because I can turn down the flow rate and have a higher alk in the effluent. Seemed like it helped my tank pH a lot. I am excited to see the results of the different media. I have only used ARM but have wondered if it would be beneficial to switch.
Actually, your calculation is wrong: having a much higher DKH at the exit mean that you don't need the same amount of outflow through the aquarium and therefore your PH won't be affected as much.
Good job! this is very informative, thank you very much!
Will you be doing tests with other reactors that you sell like Reef Octopus?
I would like to know what happens with the overall ph of the tank with and without a secondary chamber.
Using finer media (1-2mm) in the secondary chamber or a much larger secondary chamber would likely give different results.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you showed a refugium.
Show the affect on tank ph of dripping the solution into a refugium compartment vs the return area on a sump.
Having done this with cheto I can say it has virtually no impact unless you have a considerable amount of mass. Perhaps in an ats with the added air exchange would help more.
What about effluent going into some sort of container with an air stone and effect on the dkh and pH. The other thing I've wondered about before, but never tried, was to try to run the effluent through a deionizer column in an attempt to remove the co2, but leave the dkh. Don't think it'll work though, because science.
Would love to know what are the different results depending on the size of the secondary chamber. The Vertex has a smaller secondary whereas it’s more common to use same size as the first. Perhaps even go for a third chamber, but I’ve yet to really see anyone implement that.
Thanks!
fascinating 🤯💥 🔫 re-allocating money saved not purchasing a secondary chamber towards livestock
National Reefing a second chamber is so cheap and it really helps since the concentration is higher and higher pH combined will be beneficial.
I not bothered about dkh effluent aslong as mag and calc are ok I don't understand why people are measuring dkh on effluent it's a calc reactor isn't it aslong as calc is ok and mag I just buff my tank dkh in tank with soda ash
I have thrown out this idea before..
What would happen if You used a bottle of oxygen With a bubble counter, In the Secondary media chamber to see if it would raise ph.
Reef fantasy or reef certainty?
Interesting. 🙂
Which peristaltic pump are you using in this video?
Is it co2 gas or liquid you use? Thanks
It's a gas. We usually get our CO2 containers filled at a local welding supply shop.
@@BRStv Thanks
It's really tilting to see a chart to not start with 0. In the alk chart it looks like alkalinity increase to more than double, but it's actually only by 23%. You should know better and don't do that ever again.
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You might consider Pokemon or watching someone play video games.
@@TheTrevor40 Nah, it's just these crazy specific topics. I don't have a calcium reactor. I never will. I get that some people will find this useful, though. And I do like watching video games too....