The NEW King? Craft Racing Wheels - Unboxing and First Look

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  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +11

    Two things of note before people in the comments kill me:
    1. My explanation of the spoke lacing is probably full of mistakes. You can just go read the product page LoL.
    2. The wheels are twitchier than most my other wheels, I think it's not an aero thing but actually just because the wheels are so light (the rim) which means they have very little gyroscopic effect (compared to heavier wheels) to resist the crosswinds.

    • @LivoniaLimo
      @LivoniaLimo 10 місяців тому +2

      I know you think keeping the same tires and tubes will help you compare the wheels to the Magene but is not that simple. Magene wheels are way narrower , softer and heavier. 28mm tire works great for Magene but not so much for Craft (25mm internal). Because you use tubes 28mm works with the Craft wheels but is at the very narrow side , a min 30mm would work better , when installed on the 25mm internal wheel a 28mm tires is stretched and compressed , works totally different than when is installed on a 20mm internal width. Is like counting calories, sure 2foods can have same caloric no but where they coming from and how your body receives them matters more, same with wheels/tires combo. Going 30front , 32 rear tubeless would extract the most performance from the Craft wheels , better tire profile, more comfort and grip, way better stability and better rolling resistance. Welcome yours and others opinions but based on facts, no feelings

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      @@LivoniaLimo 32c rear tire on a 21mm internal rim with 29mm outer?????

    • @LivoniaLimo
      @LivoniaLimo 10 місяців тому +1

      Yes, pros started to use that combination with great success, lots of recent studies proved that rear wheel has very little to do with the aero performance and more with grip , comfort,rolling resistance. Peak Torque done extensive experiments and his findings are backed by serious data and analysis.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +2

      @@LivoniaLimo gonna keep my existing setup 👍🏾

    • @LivoniaLimo
      @LivoniaLimo 10 місяців тому +1

      That is your preference and prerogative , 28mm tire on 25mn internal width makes the front very jittery and unstable, higher pressure and inferior rolling resistance to a wider tire. All I am saying is that modern wheels are engineered and developed as a system with tire and frames in mind, there is a reason why the front wheel is so wide internal and external, this are facts proven by the manufacturers who actually do the research

  • @GCPerformance18
    @GCPerformance18 10 місяців тому +10

    God that bike looks good!! You got good taste on that build

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      I dunno man. This video is crap now because I'm not an engineer hahaha

    • @GCPerformance18
      @GCPerformance18 10 місяців тому

      @@PatrickLinobro stop fuking around and become an engineer already

  • @PatrickLino
    @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +14

    Doing my best these days to avoid recording all my of video footage indoors. But winter is here. Today was probably the final day of legitimately favorable weather for the year. Please be patient with me.

    • @corduroyyy379
      @corduroyyy379 10 місяців тому +1

      the chicago cold 😔

    • @BrianMcDonald
      @BrianMcDonald 10 місяців тому +1

      No snow suit outdoor videos with heated vest/glove/socks? 😂

    • @corduroyyy379
      @corduroyyy379 10 місяців тому +1

      @@BrianMcDonald he already busted out the shoe covers 😂

    • @galenkehler
      @galenkehler 10 місяців тому +1

      Just having our first real snowfall of the winter up here in Canada 🇨🇦 😂

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      @@corduroyyy379 when you have low body fat, you get cold easily!

  • @travispyle2905
    @travispyle2905 10 місяців тому +7

    Patrick keeping putting this content out. I love how you do the full spectrum (inexpensive and expensive, puts you in a unique position to truly compare both sides). I would love to see a review of the Lightcarbon wheels ( maybe the sawtooth pattern 60/55 depth with carbon spokes. Hambini says they are good construction wise, curious how you think they compare given your experience on various wheelsets.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +3

      After using these CRW wheels, I’m very tempted to order some custom wheels from Light Bicycle using the same specs for both external and internal width!

  • @ramonoslen6514
    @ramonoslen6514 10 місяців тому +8

    That glossy look make those wheels shine like a diamond, definitely can balance out the twitch with my mass...wheels give me a muscle vibe and that hub sound ❤...video is on point as usual 🫡

  • @vietnguyen4312
    @vietnguyen4312 10 місяців тому +2

    Nice one Patrick: I have just returned from a weekend in the mountains using my CRW CS5055 and I thought I would share my experiences and thoughts.
    Firstly, In my opinion, I find a 34mm rim width for the 50mm front wheel is far too wide for road as it reduces aerodynamic efficiency, if you intend to compete with these wheels. For this reason, I chose the CS5055 combination as the front rim width is 29mm.
    The 29mm wheels require a 28mm tyre for optimal aero efficiency. I tried a 26mm tyre, but the wheels are more suited to 28mm unfortunately. The tyres that I am currently trialling are the Vittoria Corsa N.EXT tyres and my colleges and I are very impressed with the suppleness, grip and wearing of these tyres. You are correct about comfort; the combination of the wheels and these tyres are truly excellent. I tested these tyres on coarse dead and rough roads and yes, this combination is comfortable. In fact, the most comfortable that I have ever experienced on a road bike.
    The handling of these wheels with these tyres is incredible. I completed 3 x 1000m plus descents on this wheel/tyre combination hitting speeds in excess of 70km/h and broke PR's on all three occasions without any risk whatsoever. These wheels/tyres have taken my descending to the next level.
    For climbing the CS5055 wheels are more than capable for climbing. They don't feel as snappy as my tubulars, but they are stiff and respond wheel. I would love to try the CS4045 next time I hit the mountains.
    In terms of cross wind, I weigh 58kg and I find the additional width of the wheel provides more than enough stability and I would rate them a little better than my Hyper50s.
    The wheels look fantastic but for time trials in particular I would consider a thinner wheel in order to use a thinner tyre.
    My score 10/10 but I would like to see an optional even lighter narrower wheel and a choice of a 29mm rim for the CS5060 combination.
    I hope you too enjoy your wheels.
    Also, I have noticed that Cybrei to have an impressively designed wheel which I would love to try some time.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      This is a fantastic breakdown thank you! Rarely does a set of wheels make me want to try out different depths from the same brand. But now I'm interested in a 2nd set of wheels for climbing from CRW.

    • @vietnguyen4312
      @vietnguyen4312 10 місяців тому +1

      @@PatrickLino Thanks Patrick. You could easily climb with your current wheelset. Actually I will paste my speel on their website. Enjoy and good luck with the Tavelo.

  • @MultigrainKevinOs
    @MultigrainKevinOs 10 місяців тому +2

    Sir, I am as equally jealous of your record collection as your cycling components and bikes. Living the dream dude! Love the reviews, keep up the great work.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      One day I will tell the full story to my vinyl collection. Thanks for the support Kevin!

  • @mdill7072
    @mdill7072 10 місяців тому +4

    Hi, I've been following you since you started on UA-cam. Your video content is great Patrick. I have no doubt that it takes you a lot of time to produce all these videos and you do it very well 💪. All my support from France .Simon

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      The genuine people like yourself are the best. Thank you!

  • @jackriley1989
    @jackriley1989 10 місяців тому +2

    Another great video! Looking forward to seeing the full build up of the tavelo

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      I REALLY wanna start the built tonight. But I just got home a 70 mile ride in the cold and now I’m destroyed haha

  • @smouvemouves
    @smouvemouves 10 місяців тому +1

    Incredible content as usual! Didn't expect for Stevie to show up in the wheel review, well played!!

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      We don't believe he's actually blind lol

  • @TheXiamenCyclingFeed
    @TheXiamenCyclingFeed 10 місяців тому +1

    Xiamen represent! I'm still blown away by the lightness of such a deep and aero wheelset, legendary progress in wheel design. Loving the set I'm using now too.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      How does your set handle crosswinds?

    • @TheXiamenCyclingFeed
      @TheXiamenCyclingFeed 10 місяців тому

      A little twitchy but I've ridden them in heavy winds and had no real issues, I feel like if you've ridden deep wheels you know the drill for how to handle it. @@PatrickLino

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      @@TheXiamenCyclingFeed Thanks James! Now I wanna try a set of CRW climbing wheels

  • @travispyle2905
    @travispyle2905 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for using the propel as a benchmark for comparing these wheels! Yesterday I bought a 2023 Scott Foil RC 30 on a crazy good holiday sale and now badly need a wheel upgrade (on the cheapish side) for crit racing.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      Man I would love a Foil RC Pro if they sold it as a frame set 😩

    • @travispyle2905
      @travispyle2905 10 місяців тому +1

      @@PatrickLino I think you and I want ALL the bikes. hahah. I got the RC 30 for $3500 (no taxes, and free shipping).

  • @AbielRuiz
    @AbielRuiz 10 місяців тому +2

    Funny I tested mine for the first time 3 days ago and I was expecting a harsh a** ride and it was insanely comfortable. so much so I had to stop and double check my tire pressure to ensure I wasn't going crazy lol. I know 1700 bucks sounds like a whole LOT for "chinese" wheels... but these things are on par with wheels that cost 2x the price. Aesthetics, performance, weight and build quality are all A++ on these. I hope to get some sales with these at my new shop soon.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      Great stuff. I'm hoping to get a "climbing" set of these, although the CS5060 are light enough climb LoL

    • @AbielRuiz
      @AbielRuiz 10 місяців тому

      Only about 120g difference! only place I think you'll feel a subtle difference is crosswinds. You should try these wheels on the X38 frame and see if it makes a difference in the overall feel of the bike. Would be interesting. @@PatrickLino

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      I disassembled my x38 months ago haha. Will mostly paint it and rebuild it this spring.

    • @AbielRuiz
      @AbielRuiz 10 місяців тому

      Let me know if you need help with the paint scheme 😁@@PatrickLino

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      @@AbielRuiz Mercedes silver haha

  • @jbrew44
    @jbrew44 10 місяців тому +1

    Your vinyl collection is amazing!

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      Ahhh thanks man. One day I will tell the full story of my collection!

  • @Stealthgate007
    @Stealthgate007 10 місяців тому

    I bought these Wheels in September for my 23 Scott Foil 30. They arrived 7 weeks later in October. I bought the gold decal 50/60. The gloss looks good because the bike is gloss and not Matte black. I bought a pair of DT Swiss HEC1600-47mm for another bike a year ago. The packaging and presentation from CRW was waaaay better than DT. All I can say is these wheels make a difference. I don't understand how its easier to ride at 21-22mph instead of 18mph. The weight is crazy low, and they are pretty durable. I have the same tan sidewall continentals gp5k and the 19g tpu tubes.. Lol. These wheels are sick!

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      There are so many GREAT wheels on the market right now. Fortunate to have tried a lot of them. However, it's been a very long time since a set of wheels have actually blown me away (no pun) upon first impression. The Hyper D67s come to mind. But these CRW wheels are in a league of their own. Shame it's wintertime here.

    • @Stealthgate007
      @Stealthgate007 10 місяців тому

      @@PatrickLino Man.. Haters are gonna hate.. I say let them. Wrong tire?? Too Glossy?? You are not doing it right??? Lol!!! GTFOH. They have no vision and will take no risk, and want to complain.. Where the f is their video.... "crickets"

  • @suhdud4646
    @suhdud4646 10 місяців тому +2

    Sheeeesh... that free hub sounds like a "thumpier" version of the Chris King Buzzer.

  • @pushbeyondaverage
    @pushbeyondaverage 10 місяців тому +1

    The shine on these wheels 🛞. 👍

  • @joeboxer82is
    @joeboxer82is 2 місяці тому

    Love all your videos! Great content! How do u compare them to the No.6 u’ve tested?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  2 місяці тому

      @@joeboxer82is they are very similar to be honest. Same hub and carbon spokes. I’d say for those who really wanna run 28c instead 30-32c, the CRWs make more sense.

    • @joeboxer82is
      @joeboxer82is 2 місяці тому

      @@PatrickLinoyeah that makes sense. Thanks Pat! Looking forward to many more videos! Ride safe!

  • @cornelhughes6763
    @cornelhughes6763 10 місяців тому +2

    Nice wheels. Saw the initial review by Pete Torque. In your clip when speaking about comfort, and rough roads you likened them to Winspace . I would have thought they would be similar to Elite drive Wheels due to their lightness. I have read the winspace wheels are more rigid {stiff)hence hence better power transfer so I would think especially on bad roads they would be more uncomfortable than Elite drive. Would love to see you review some of the cheaper Chinese Wheels especially direct from manufacture {yuan an, Prox Carbon). Reading they are actually OEM suppliers from some of the brands you have already reviewed.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      I’ve been in touch with some of those suppliers you speak of. Considering I’ve already reviewed the brands which they supply for, it would be redundant.

    • @travispyle2905
      @travispyle2905 10 місяців тому +2

      @@PatrickLino I think it would be value added. If you compared two wheelsets that are supposedly made from the shop (one with a big name logo on it, and the other with the manufacture/direct to consumer label on it) that would be VERY interesting to your youtube target audience. Either way keep up the great work and thank you for providing insight to these various products.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      @@travispyle2905 thanks Travis! Much appreciated. Enjoy the weekend 💪🏾

  • @hunterkendig5245
    @hunterkendig5245 7 місяців тому

    This is literally my dream bike build - giant propel, craft racing wheels and Ultegra Di2

  • @BOSKASAURUS
    @BOSKASAURUS 9 місяців тому +1

    Hey Patrick are you running these with tubes? Great review - stuck between these and the swissside hadrons

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  9 місяців тому

      Tubes 👍🏾

    • @BOSKASAURUS
      @BOSKASAURUS 9 місяців тому

      @@PatrickLino excellent, was concerned the 60 rear would be a stretch for them. Thanks and keep up the great content.

  • @whitebeardcycles
    @whitebeardcycles 10 місяців тому +1

    Thought you'd like these. Glad to see the channel heading sharply towards 10k subs. #earned

  • @davidnicholson6680
    @davidnicholson6680 10 місяців тому +1

    With only 16 spokes, extremely light rims and hubs that look to have been machined away to nothing, I'll be interested to see how these hold up to daily use. They're very, very light for the dimensions, maybe too light.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +2

      Perhaps not the ideal for the 100kg bloke. But reports from other field testers have shown to be durable. Only time will tell for my set however.

    • @benjaminwolf9801
      @benjaminwolf9801 10 місяців тому

      As someone who is 95kg I would be concerned with wheels like this....maybe if I can drop 20kg and use them only for Sunday rides

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      @@benjaminwolf9801 Goal weight for Summer 2024!

  • @maartenthomassen
    @maartenthomassen 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey Patrick, is there a big difference with the drive wheelset? (with the carbon spokes) very courious. Thanks! Like the content very much by the way

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +2

      The Drives are one of the best value in my opinion in this price category. I don’t find them super stiff (which is good or bad depending who you ask) but their main draw is their lower weight.

  • @glennmcfarlane5513
    @glennmcfarlane5513 8 місяців тому +1

    Hey, just curious, do you think the sort of glossy look of the CRW wheels suits the matte black of the frame or would the Magene DB508 wheels look better?
    I have a matte black frame. This is a very tough choice to make😊

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  8 місяців тому

      I can appreciate both glossy and matte black wheels. I just wish Magene would remove the gold decals and replace them either silver or black.

    • @glennmcfarlane5513
      @glennmcfarlane5513 8 місяців тому +1

      You are spot on with the decal thoughts

  • @BrianMcDonald
    @BrianMcDonald 9 місяців тому

    I'd love to get the super light set of these that are in the 40s but the price is a little hard for such a "new" company with no discount. I think with some light not so deep wheels, my wheel arsenal would be nice and rounded out for a number of uses.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  9 місяців тому +1

      According to Panda Podium these are one of, if not, the highest selling products on the website. Seems like customers don't really need a code if the product is good and unique.

    • @BrianMcDonald
      @BrianMcDonald 9 місяців тому +1

      @@PatrickLino yeah I know I just don't have a 800/wheel budget and I want them 😂

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  9 місяців тому +1

      @@BrianMcDonald They will make your Brooklyn commute faster haha

    • @BrianMcDonald
      @BrianMcDonald 9 місяців тому +1

      @@PatrickLino time is money when it comes to a daily 5 mile ride!!!! 😂

  • @donwinston
    @donwinston 10 місяців тому +1

    Why is the front rim so wide? Isn’t a 25mm wide internal rim almost a gravel or even a mountain bike wheel?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      The Roval CLX I and II wheels would probably explain it better than I ever could.

  • @marcinstyle85
    @marcinstyle85 10 місяців тому +1

    99% wheels from China anyway :) Very nice wheels these are on my short list ,I have currently Hyper 67 very good wheels best so far I had compare to my pervious wheels zipp/enve/specialized/giant slr

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      I love my Hyper 67s. My favorite wheels so far until I give the CRWs a full go

  • @biketrybe7071
    @biketrybe7071 10 місяців тому

    Great video. It is AS IF YOU READ MY MIND because LATELY, ALL I DO is ride my old wheels and I AIN'T GONNA STAND FOR IT anymore!

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      Haha thanks for watching

  • @duncancycles
    @duncancycles 10 місяців тому +1

    Unbelievable wheels

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      Not the cheapest wheels ever. So far I’d say yes you pay more but get more.

  • @Gregory_tottie
    @Gregory_tottie 10 місяців тому +1

    Hotter Than July is a great record.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      ALLLLLLL I DOOOOOOOOO

  • @neilmckenna236
    @neilmckenna236 9 місяців тому

    I have ordered a set of the 50/55. I hope they ate as good as all the chat 👍

  • @DaveCM
    @DaveCM 10 місяців тому

    That is backwards to everything I've read. Supposedly, it's more aerodynamic to have narrower on the front and wider on the back. It's kind of interesting though. I wonder if it will further aid in crosswinds.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +2

      I'm in a tricky situation here. Deep dives on engineering is not my thing (clearly) and obviously no access to a wind tunnel LoL. The good news is there are content creators who have already debunked the theory about wider wheels being less aerodynamic. So I'll just stick to on-the-road feel and longterm durability.

    • @SamuelBlackMetalRider
      @SamuelBlackMetalRider 10 місяців тому +1

      You guys they are just copying what SPECIALIZED have done with their Roval wheel. It is meant to aid fight crosswinds indeed that super wide front rim. Even the different rim depth is copied from SPECIALIZED ROVAL RAPIDE CLX.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      @@SamuelBlackMetalRider Bingo

  • @TheRuijin97
    @TheRuijin97 10 місяців тому +1

    Thoughts on these vs magene exar?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      Without knowing where you ride and your budget, I can’t say

  • @financialcyclist
    @financialcyclist 2 місяці тому

    Craft vs Magene?
    What are the main difference?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  2 місяці тому

      The Crafts are freakishly lightweight.

  • @LennywatchSHORTS
    @LennywatchSHORTS 6 місяців тому

    Hi Patrick, i've just purchased a 2023 Propel SL frameset and looking at purchasing these wheels - Is tire clearance an issue running the 28's, as the internal rim width is soo wide? I'm want to install 30mm tyres and just a bit worried they wont fit. Thanks mate.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  6 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for watching. Any potential clearance issues is only at the rear of the frame with the chain stays. However, the CRW CS5060 in particular have different internal rim width for both the front and rear rim. The rear wheel is only 21mm internal versus 25mm on the front. No issues with clearance.

  • @aidanmasterson50
    @aidanmasterson50 10 місяців тому

    Chinese wheel user. These look as beautiful as campy ultras bar the hubs. But the are above the price point I”d risk on Chinese wheels with practically no local customer support. Elite D50 are the same weight and $600 cheaper.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      Fair point. Budget is always a consideration

  • @DanTuber
    @DanTuber 10 місяців тому

    Strange the front wheel is wider than the rear. Would have thought it would be opposite for aerodynamics.

    • @fredsimmons6341
      @fredsimmons6341 10 місяців тому +2

      The outer width is the same as on the Roval CLX/CL II. Supposed to help with crosswind stability.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +3

      @@fredsimmons6341 Came here to say the same about the Roval Rapides

  • @syazwanabdull4835
    @syazwanabdull4835 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice wheelset

  • @grzegorzkowal6480
    @grzegorzkowal6480 9 місяців тому

    @PatrickLino Could you compare comfort to Drive45 ?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  9 місяців тому +2

      These are more comfortable and more aero. The front wheel has a 25mm internal width which means lower PSI compared to Drive 45

  • @willisix2554
    @willisix2554 10 місяців тому

    Those wheels look really good on that bike, Be sure to keep an eye on the rear wheel as low spoke count wheels tend to crack near the Nipples!

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      Good to know thank you!!

    • @willisix2554
      @willisix2554 10 місяців тому

      @PatrickLino NO problem, Stay safe

  • @tourdechi
    @tourdechi 10 місяців тому +1

    Size difference would drive me crazy

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +1

      Take a look at Roval’s CLX wheels 👀

  • @valiantabello
    @valiantabello 10 місяців тому +2

    Stevie Wonder can see and i will not br convinced otherwise!

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому +2

      I’m with you hahaha

  • @Pogoc7
    @Pogoc7 7 місяців тому

    North Branch trail?

  • @lookatpalacios
    @lookatpalacios 6 місяців тому

    What do you say now after some miles? It is a lot of money..

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  6 місяців тому

      When you say "a lot of money", what is your point of reference?

    • @lookatpalacios
      @lookatpalacios 6 місяців тому

      @@PatrickLino currently i habe hyper d67 and before dt swiss arc 1400…

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  6 місяців тому

      @@lookatpalacios They are a great set of wheels.

  • @michprent
    @michprent 8 місяців тому

    Hi Patrick, are you planning to do a long term review of the wheels? i really like them, and are really want to know your long time opinion. gr

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  8 місяців тому

      I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. The more specific of questions/concerns, the better ❤

  • @EggSandwich100
    @EggSandwich100 8 місяців тому

    Does it come in rim brake?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  8 місяців тому

      Best to check the website.

  • @petersouthernboy6327
    @petersouthernboy6327 3 місяці тому

    Theres viral video of this brand literally blowing apart. Dangerous.

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  3 місяці тому

      @@petersouthernboy6327 thanks for watching!

  • @angelortiz353
    @angelortiz353 7 місяців тому

    Craft vs elite?

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  7 місяців тому

      Whats your budget?

    • @angelortiz353
      @angelortiz353 7 місяців тому

      @@PatrickLino no budget

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  7 місяців тому +1

      @@angelortiz353 Craft are better and are more expensive. As expected.

    • @angelortiz353
      @angelortiz353 7 місяців тому

      @@PatrickLino thank u

  • @paulmorrison30
    @paulmorrison30 10 місяців тому +1

    Nice 👌🏾

    • @PatrickLino
      @PatrickLino  10 місяців тому

      Not cheap, but really great

  • @onyx4873
    @onyx4873 10 місяців тому +2

    Sorry but Don't look good because of the glossy Look thx 4 Video