Yes Dylan I do like technique tutorials. I especially like yours. I’ve watched and learned along with you and thanks to you. There are a few really good content providers where this is concerned and you’re among them! Keep learning and sharing!:)
You are basically throwing like you always have. At the reach back you are simply rotating your hand to get on plane. You have always thrown like this.
That's who it was!!! I commented about this exact video (yesterday) you were talking about. Cheers. I have thrown it like that since... and I have had a great result with it...
2 shoulder surgeries and now 40 percent disabled in the throwing shoulder makes elbow up virtually impossible so I have to try different methods. Not working so far, but i just started throwing again after being out for 7 yrs with injuries on the throwing shoulder, so hopefully, I will be able to find a solution.
Instead of thinking about trying to keep your elbow up, try just thinking about keeping your hand on the outside of the disc as long as you can. That is, try to keep the disc in between the palm of your hand and your body as long as you can. You can even curl your wrist in a bit and "pour the coffee" to keep the nose down. You'll notice your elbow naturally pops out and up, creating more space for the disc, and on the forward swing the disc will naturally come back in close to your chest and you'll get more snap when your elbow and wrist unfurl. Learned this tip from a Kristian Kuoksa video btw. Dude throws it a mile.
I think it is important to differentiate between angle of attack and the trajectory of flight when discussing nose angle. The angle of attack is the nose angle with respect to the line of travel. If you throw uphill for example, you nose can be down with respect to the line of the flight, but up with respect to flat ground. Such an uphill shot can have a negative angle of attack and properly be "nose down" despite the disc gaining elevation, and the disc's nose being higher than the tail in space. Similarly, a shot thrown on a trajectory 2-5 degrees above flat (as Dylan often does in this video) that flies with the disc seemingly level with the earth is indeed flying with the proper nose down angle with respect to its flight trajectory. Thanks for the technique tips!
I may have a different understanding of nose up, but your first throw (with elbow up) was 100% nose up to me, your second throw (you said elbow up but didn't put it up) was extremely close to nose down.
First, nose angle is not the same as release angle. Your arm path can be at an upward angle so you are throwing the disc upward, while still angling the nose down. Second, the aerodynamics of the disc creates lift (higher pressure below the disc, lower pressure above), which results in the disc gaining altitude.
@@davejoseph5615 ah ok I understand the question better now. A good nose down throw will still have plenty of height whereas a nose up throw will skyrocket much higher and won't go very far before it slows down, fades hard and crashes to the ground. A good throw will often land flat and get additional ground action, such as a skip. A nose up throw will often crash down at an angle and get very little ground action.
@@BlitzDG more torque compared to the speed and spin off the disc. Funny you say something like you know, THEN ask a question like you don't. One or the other brother.
Anyone else struggling with Dylan’s bag on the golf green? Haha
Thanks for the video. I have been working on this recently too!
Yes Dylan I do like technique tutorials. I especially like yours. I’ve watched and learned along with you and thanks to you. There are a few really good content providers where this is concerned and you’re among them! Keep learning and sharing!:)
You are basically throwing like you always have. At the reach back you are simply rotating your hand to get on plane. You have always thrown like this.
Gannon gave Bodanza the tip to pull through like this. I recently started doing it and it makes a world of difference
That's who it was!!! I commented about this exact video (yesterday) you were talking about. Cheers. I have thrown it like that since... and I have had a great result with it...
2 shoulder surgeries and now 40 percent disabled in the throwing shoulder makes elbow up virtually impossible so I have to try different methods. Not working so far, but i just started throwing again after being out for 7 yrs with injuries on the throwing shoulder, so hopefully, I will be able to find a solution.
Instead of thinking about trying to keep your elbow up, try just thinking about keeping your hand on the outside of the disc as long as you can. That is, try to keep the disc in between the palm of your hand and your body as long as you can. You can even curl your wrist in a bit and "pour the coffee" to keep the nose down. You'll notice your elbow naturally pops out and up, creating more space for the disc, and on the forward swing the disc will naturally come back in close to your chest and you'll get more snap when your elbow and wrist unfurl. Learned this tip from a Kristian Kuoksa video btw. Dude throws it a mile.
I think it is important to differentiate between angle of attack and the trajectory of flight when discussing nose angle. The angle of attack is the nose angle with respect to the line of travel. If you throw uphill for example, you nose can be down with respect to the line of the flight, but up with respect to flat ground. Such an uphill shot can have a negative angle of attack and properly be "nose down" despite the disc gaining elevation, and the disc's nose being higher than the tail in space. Similarly, a shot thrown on a trajectory 2-5 degrees above flat (as Dylan often does in this video) that flies with the disc seemingly level with the earth is indeed flying with the proper nose down angle with respect to its flight trajectory. Thanks for the technique tips!
Do you think that throwing forehand nose down is necessary also? If yes can you do a video on that?
For me its easier on forehand for sure
@@IceBergTV do you just turn the disc slightly downward with your wrist and hold that angle all the way thru the throw?
@@scbuckeye1267 im not sure. Forhand comes much more naturally for me and ive never really analyzed my form like that
@@scbuckeye1267for me it’s a little bit of wrist adjustment and more of an arm slot
This video resonated with me. I bought UNder stable dics to compensate for my poor form.
Need to supinate my shoulder
Wouldn't a side view camera angle be much easier to see if your elbow is high/leading?
Is this high elbow thing what you and Scott S worked on?
Yes definitely. It felt so bad i stopped doing it but go figure scott might have been right all along
@@IceBergTV 👌👍
I may have a different understanding of nose up, but your first throw (with elbow up) was 100% nose up to me, your second throw (you said elbow up but didn't put it up) was extremely close to nose down.
I guess if I throw "nose up" the disc will gain altitude and if I throw "nose down" the disc will lose altitude? If not then why not?
First, nose angle is not the same as release angle. Your arm path can be at an upward angle so you are throwing the disc upward, while still angling the nose down. Second, the aerodynamics of the disc creates lift (higher pressure below the disc, lower pressure above), which results in the disc gaining altitude.
@@jamesfarabaugh6669 What disc behavior tells you that the disc was definitely "nose up" or "nose down?"
@@davejoseph5615 ah ok I understand the question better now. A good nose down throw will still have plenty of height whereas a nose up throw will skyrocket much higher and won't go very far before it slows down, fades hard and crashes to the ground. A good throw will often land flat and get additional ground action, such as a skip. A nose up throw will often crash down at an angle and get very little ground action.
I think you're over torquing. Thats what is making discs seem less stable. I throw the same way and that's what pros have told me.
There's no such thing as over torquing. What does that even mean.
@@BlitzDG more torque compared to the speed and spin off the disc. Funny you say something like you know, THEN ask a question like you don't. One or the other brother.
That isn't a definition. I will straight up concede the point if you can explain in detail how torque relates to speed and spin in disc golf.
Hey, whatever makes the disc reach the basket
@@nordicdiscgolferatrumble9430 true. Why does anyone give advice?