The second verse is by R.A. The Rugged Man. In his verse he is speaking about his father Staff Sargent John A. Thorburn's experiences in The Vietnam War. Staff Sgt. John Andrew Thorburn was an American war veteran who for seven years served in the United States Army and the United States Air Force during the Vietnam War. Thorburn received several medals for his service. In the Army he was with the 101st Airborne Division (The "Screaming Eagles"). He was later assigned with the Green Berets into the 10th Special Forces Group. In June 1968, Thorburn transferred to the Air Force. On March 14, 1970, Thorburn was on a long-range reconnaissance patrol (LRRP) from the Ban Me Thuot East Airfield in South Vietnam aboard a UH-1P "Papa" Huey helicopter as a member of the 20th Special Operations Squadron (The "Green Hornets"). The helicopter was shot down near the Duc Lap Special Forces Camp by enemy ground fire which resulted in pilot USAF Capt Dana Allen Dilley's death and three wounded airmen, with Thorburn and the other gunner sustaining serious injuries. An Army helicopter from the 155th Assault Helicopter Company on the same operation retrieved the airmen and took them to Cam Ranh Air Base. Thorburn was later discharged following injuries he received. Staff Sergeant Thorburn was awarded the Conspicuous Service Cross by New York State Senator John J. Flanagan for his accomplishments in the Vietnam War. He also earned several awards and decorations from the United States Army and Air Force, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (twice), Purple Heart, and Air Medal (four times).
@@ShaolinSoldier facts agent Orange was one of the worst thing the allied nations did while in Vietnam and they did some terrible things multiple of my family served in Vietnam in the Australian army 2 where tunnel rats and one was a heli pilot and they really hate Americans because of what happened over there and they where fighting on the same side but apprently the Americans did some really messed up stuff including killing there allies raping civilians apprently a large percentage of us troops where on drugs hard over there aswell witch contributed to all the horrible atrocities that happened another song that goes into detail about some of the atrocities committed over there is napalm sticks to kids and it was made as an anti war song to educate people on the horrors of war
@@AngryConservative it's cool cos he's decorated! no interest in the wanton murder of children or the deploying of AO that fucked his own family forever and likely cursed thousands of vietnamese to horrifying fates. it's literally in both the song AND the comment. you're an absolute dirty apologist shit stain.
Growing up as the son of a vietnamese chinese refugee when i heard this song in the past it got me digging looking up rolling thunder and bit by bit ,school only ever briefly talked about the vietnam war
This song was based on the dual perspective of war. One is forced while the other is willing. Both gain the same perspective when bullets come down range. Survival.
Not be a jerk or anything, but all men are genetically predisposed to get prostate cancer, it's just a matter of whether or not you live long enough to get it.
Operation Rolling Thunder was the title of a gradual and sustained aerial bombardment campaign conducted by the United States 2nd Air Division, U.S. Navy, and Republic of Vietnam Air Force against the Democratic Republic of Vietnam from 2 March 1965 until 2 November 1968
Two of the best to do it. Prolly my two favorite rappers. Just such huge careers of consistent incredible lyricism. Paz's verse was ok, but R.A.'s verse was one of his best. Just insane lyricism and story telling.
My grandpa was a chopper Gunner as well he survived but never talks about Vietnam all he told me was it wasn't a good place & that he's lucky to be alive.
I'm glad you made really made this request. Not the most musical song but the story telling hits hard right? I'm from croatia and i know how much pain war can be! I hope you still enjoy the flow in this song and i liked your angry reaction.
The duo is Jedi Mind Tricks, formed of Vinnie Paz and Jus Allah, Vinnie Paz is a goat tier rapper from philly (the dude on the first verse), Jus allah is same as Vinnie as well... However on the second verse u got R.A. The Rugged Man a political type rapper who's also a goat tier rapper and arguably the best underground rapper of all time. (Jus Allah didn't rap here maybe because the track's theme doesn't suit him)
@@Supes97 Jus Allah isn't in JMT anymore (he got kicked out twice), he also wasn't in when this song (album) was made. JMT today consists of Vinnie Paz, Stoupe the enemie of mankind (producer) and DJ Kwestion
@@matthijsgeerlings Ok thnx for the info but i already know that, Diabolic said it in his diss track... Also i never said that he was in the "Uncommon Valor" track lol i literally wrote "RUGGED MAN in the second verse" however even with him being kicked out he is still referenced as JMT member cauz he is one of the group pioneers so one can't take that respect from him...
America did to Vietnam what Russia is doing to Ukraine, but wayyy worst. This song as whole is one of the great songs in Hip-Hop history. Everybody I’ve ever shown this too has been blown away and rightfully fxcking so.
You might think that's the case that's what America wants. NATO is the enemy. Gulf of Tonkin was a planned media event to win your heart and your mind for Vietnam
I realise this is a bit of an older video, but I'm gonna comment nontheless. What did you mean when you said it wasn't impressive musically? I'm a big hip hop fan and I realize I don't have a great understanding of music theory so I'm very interested in what you mean more exactly.
I heard An0maly giving this song credit for his venture into Rap Music, so that's how I discovered it. I like the realism ... I'm an anti-war conservative. Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag that created an unnecessary war, and our gov was responsible.
I like to describe the whole Jedi mind tricks group all of the rappers from Vinnie to jus allah to every one associated with them were lyrically insane
@@yoshi0k262 It's easy. You must know the news-media is a tool used by the military to gain public support for war. Look at what they did in Vietnam. Created a Lie, put it in the news, "They're shooting at our ships" in Tonkin. Then we spent way too much time there, Democrats ran the country then, and ruined people's villages over lies, then had to evacuate refugees, I'm sure they presigned them all to vote for Dems. I can go on, but will just say, America should never lose any war, yet we keep dragging out wars across elections, and every time, the objective changes. I'm sick of watching our best and brightest used like this while our country is being flooded and so maybe they come home from war and there's no jobs available. Have a nice day.
if that's you being angry I wonder how you look when you're calm... lol. second verse is RA The Rugged Man... and no that's his flow, not a post production result, he always raps like that, or faster, he has 4 lungs, lol. Vinnie's the goat
The second guy is RA the rugged man and it’s basically based on his fathers accounts or his verse is based on his fathers accounts in the Vietnam war Vinnie Paz is from Sicily raised in Philly and a muzzle so yeah he’s got gangsters in his family but no war vets
Never seen any video of yours but I'm feining for first Insane Clown Posse reaction haha can you check out the song Tilt-A-Whirl for wild shit they're about n represent, or the song "Where's God" if you want sentimental deep reality type track. Was gonna recommend more but fuq it I'm buzzed ha peace ✌️
This song helped me cope with the fact i never had my father in my life. I never cared for war stories until i realized i was better off as my father was. The Vietnam War was worse for America than the great depression in terms of family structure
I'm gonna start a reaction channel that reviews other reaction channels. It's not like there aren't 7000 of em on jootoob. My reaction to this one? It made me think "wow, I'm going to be getting recommendations for the next month from this guy and numerous more just like him 😂
I'm a huge Vinnie Paz and JMT fan- I came to check this out because this is maybe my least favorite song of theirs. I didn't like it then, I don't like it now. The beat is terrible, Ra the Rugged doesn't help....it's all bad. As far as the fact check- no it's not accurate. It's indivicative of the bigger truth of severe civilian casualties and deaths, but it's more like 2 to 1- but that wasn't all of our doing either- the Vietcong were included in the civilian stats on both sides in North and South Vietnam.
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The second verse is by R.A. The Rugged Man. In his verse he is speaking about his father Staff Sargent John A. Thorburn's experiences in The Vietnam War.
Staff Sgt. John Andrew Thorburn was an American war veteran who for seven years served in the United States Army and the United States Air Force during the Vietnam War. Thorburn received several medals for his service. In the Army he was with the 101st Airborne Division (The "Screaming Eagles"). He was later assigned with the Green Berets into the 10th Special Forces Group. In June 1968, Thorburn transferred to the Air Force.
On March 14, 1970, Thorburn was on a long-range reconnaissance patrol (LRRP) from the Ban Me Thuot East Airfield in South Vietnam aboard a UH-1P "Papa" Huey helicopter as a member of the 20th Special Operations Squadron (The "Green Hornets"). The helicopter was shot down near the Duc Lap Special Forces Camp by enemy ground fire which resulted in pilot USAF Capt Dana Allen Dilley's death and three wounded airmen, with Thorburn and the other gunner sustaining serious injuries. An Army helicopter from the 155th Assault Helicopter Company on the same operation retrieved the airmen and took them to Cam Ranh Air Base. Thorburn was later discharged following injuries he received.
Staff Sergeant Thorburn was awarded the Conspicuous Service Cross by New York State Senator John J. Flanagan for his accomplishments in the Vietnam War. He also earned several awards and decorations from the United States Army and Air Force, including the Distinguished Flying Cross (twice), Purple Heart, and Air Medal (four times).
wow! great comment! thanks for the detail. pretty decorated! thank you so much for the feedback!
Fantastic comment brotha! Few facts in there I was unaware of 🤘🤘
The part about agent orange’s effects on his children (the rapper’s siblings) is true as well.
@@ShaolinSoldier facts agent Orange was one of the worst thing the allied nations did while in Vietnam and they did some terrible things multiple of my family served in Vietnam in the Australian army 2 where tunnel rats and one was a heli pilot and they really hate Americans because of what happened over there and they where fighting on the same side but apprently the Americans did some really messed up stuff including killing there allies raping civilians apprently a large percentage of us troops where on drugs hard over there aswell witch contributed to all the horrible atrocities that happened another song that goes into detail about some of the atrocities committed over there is napalm sticks to kids and it was made as an anti war song to educate people on the horrors of war
@@AngryConservative it's cool cos he's decorated! no interest in the wanton murder of children or the deploying of AO that fucked his own family forever and likely cursed thousands of vietnamese to horrifying fates. it's literally in both the song AND the comment. you're an absolute dirty apologist shit stain.
Growing up as the son of a vietnamese chinese refugee when i heard this song in the past it got me digging looking up rolling thunder and bit by bit ,school only ever briefly talked about the vietnam war
I need to better educate myself on it myself! thanks for the feedback!
may god bless you and your loved ones. i love all my brothers and sisters in the world.
This song was based on the dual perspective of war. One is forced while the other is willing. Both gain the same perspective when bullets come down range. Survival.
My grandfather just got over prostate cancer likely a result of Agent Orange
Not be a jerk or anything, but all men are genetically predisposed to get prostate cancer, it's just a matter of whether or not you live long enough to get it.
Operation Rolling Thunder was the title of a gradual and sustained aerial bombardment campaign conducted by the United States 2nd Air Division, U.S. Navy, and Republic of Vietnam Air Force against the Democratic Republic of Vietnam from 2 March 1965 until 2 November 1968
thank you sir!!
The beat is amazing actually, sort of haunting but beautiful, perfect for the song topic, not too distracting from the rapping.
I agree!
Stoop Tha enemy of mankind is the producer one of the best
@@deancameron3740 stoupe*
@@rodenrren2 yeah it was spelt wrong
This song couldn't have a better beat goat beat
Two of the best to do it. Prolly my two favorite rappers. Just such huge careers of consistent incredible lyricism. Paz's verse was ok, but R.A.'s verse was one of his best. Just insane lyricism and story telling.
Overall im a bigger paz fan but Ra was spitting fire here
It’s well know the RA’s verse may be the greatest ever written
Paz set it up for him too, established a mental dichotomy. He knew RA was about to do something legendary.
@AttilatheThrilla for me, it is. It's literally perfect.
My grandpa was a chopper Gunner as well he survived but never talks about Vietnam all he told me was it wasn't a good place & that he's lucky to be alive.
*Interrupts flow:
“This flow is uninterrupted.”
The second verse RA the rugged man he’s speaking in his fathers perspective who was there. His farther was a green beret in Vietnam
And the person who owns the song is R.a the rugged man. Fun fact r.a did a song with big.
what song!?
@@AngryConservative it’s probably a stupid song but it’s called cun$ Renaissance
R.A. the rugged man's dead was a vietnam vet.
much respect for the vets!
As a self-proclaimed hip hop head, RA’s verse is one of the best in all of hip hop history.
R.A. the Rugged Man - Angelic Boy. Mind blowing song.
added!
The beat production and versus are unmatched in the hip hop world
Finally someone who is reacting to some of that underground Hip-Hop, the real Hip-Hop.
React to Army Of The Pharaohs - Gun Ballad, hardcore type shit.
added to the list. I'll give it a go! thanks for the feedback!
TOO REAL FOR YOU BUCKO
I can rap this entire song and I'm kinda proud of that. Had to do it at a funeral once.
I agree I was the guy from coffin
RA tge ruggedmans verse is still to this day classed as the best verse in hip hop history!
Ra the rugged mans style on second verse is reminiscent of the legendary Mc percee p
you dont hear much about Percee P - I can get down with that
I'm glad you made really made this request. Not the most musical song but the story telling hits hard right? I'm from croatia and i know how much pain war can be! I hope you still enjoy the flow in this song and i liked your angry reaction.
Was a great song and I really enjoyed it! appreciate the feedback!
It’s not Jedi mind tricks it’s Vinnie Paz he’s in the group. He has really good songs
I'll check out more!
It is Jedi Mind Tricks! Before Vinnie went solo. The dude with the flow is R A Rugged Man
@@coraje1388 oh I did not know that very interesting
Vinnie, Jus, and Stoupe were Jedi Mind Tricks.
Good choice
The duo is Jedi Mind Tricks, formed of Vinnie Paz and Jus Allah, Vinnie Paz is a goat tier rapper from philly (the dude on the first verse), Jus allah is same as Vinnie as well... However on the second verse u got R.A. The Rugged Man a political type rapper who's also a goat tier rapper and arguably the best underground rapper of all time.
(Jus Allah didn't rap here maybe because the track's theme doesn't suit him)
If you got some links to some of his underground stuff, i'll take a listen!
@@AngryConservative Yeah dude i will definitely keep requesting their best tracks from both solo and grp catalog, you'll enjoy em big time.
@@Supes97 Jus Allah isn't in JMT anymore (he got kicked out twice), he also wasn't in when this song (album) was made. JMT today consists of Vinnie Paz, Stoupe the enemie of mankind (producer) and DJ Kwestion
@@matthijsgeerlings Ok thnx for the info but i already know that, Diabolic said it in his diss track... Also i never said that he was in the "Uncommon Valor" track lol i literally wrote "RUGGED MAN in the second verse" however even with him being kicked out he is still referenced as JMT member cauz he is one of the group pioneers so one can't take that respect from him...
@someguyontheinternet dotcom Yeah i didn't mention Stoupe cauz he is the producer i was talking about the emcees of the group...
Story behind this is, It was a song based off Sgt Thorburn, RA's father.
R.A. The RuGged man he has the flows for real.
100%
You can argue R.A's verse is top 5 ever
America did to Vietnam what Russia is doing to Ukraine, but wayyy worst. This song as whole is one of the great songs in Hip-Hop history. Everybody I’ve ever shown this too has been blown away and rightfully fxcking so.
You might think that's the case that's what America wants. NATO is the enemy. Gulf of Tonkin was a planned media event to win your heart and your mind for Vietnam
I realise this is a bit of an older video, but I'm gonna comment nontheless. What did you mean when you said it wasn't impressive musically? I'm a big hip hop fan and I realize I don't have a great understanding of music theory so I'm very interested in what you mean more exactly.
He dumb
It wasn't the emu's fault!! Despite what you hear!!
damn emu's!
I heard An0maly giving this song credit for his venture into Rap Music, so that's how I discovered it.
I like the realism ... I'm an anti-war conservative. Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag that created an unnecessary war, and our gov was responsible.
To be fair, our government is responsible for a lot of bad things including acts of war. anto-war, huh? this must have been a great 4 years for you!
Some things never change. Our government will forever search out war when they need to make some scratch off the ole investment account.
I like to describe the whole Jedi mind tricks group all of the rappers from Vinnie to jus allah to every one associated with them were lyrically insane
how can your be a pro capitalist conservative and be anti war they inherently appose each other even is you personally appose it?
@@yoshi0k262 It's easy. You must know the news-media is a tool used by the military to gain public support for war.
Look at what they did in Vietnam.
Created a Lie, put it in the news, "They're shooting at our ships" in Tonkin. Then we spent way too much time there, Democrats ran the country then, and ruined people's villages over lies, then had to evacuate refugees, I'm sure they presigned them all to vote for Dems.
I can go on, but will just say, America should never lose any war, yet we keep dragging out wars across elections, and every time, the objective changes.
I'm sick of watching our best and brightest used like this while our country is being flooded and so maybe they come home from war and there's no jobs available.
Have a nice day.
Ra the rugged man - holla loo yuh
I need to check out more of him! i'll get this one on the list!
Keep it up my guy good contents
if that's you being angry I wonder how you look when you're calm... lol.
second verse is RA The Rugged Man... and no that's his flow, not a post production result, he always raps like that, or faster, he has 4 lungs, lol. Vinnie's the goat
Oh man that's a funny commentary
That ratio hasn't been fact checked 😂
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This is a great track, unrivalled storytelling, wash your mouth out sir
Yes….that’s the United States record …..that’s what our tax dollars were going towards
Real recognize real.
The second guy is RA the rugged man and it’s basically based on his fathers accounts or his verse is based on his fathers accounts in the Vietnam war Vinnie Paz is from Sicily raised in Philly and a muzzle so yeah he’s got gangsters in his family but no war vets
probs to your daughter mate. Sounds good. If you want to I keep looking for a Jedi mind - saviourself reaction. take care to you and yours.
Vinnie Paz great at tellin stories in his lyrics
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Never seen any video of yours but I'm feining for first Insane Clown Posse reaction haha can you check out the song Tilt-A-Whirl for wild shit they're about n represent, or the song "Where's God" if you want sentimental deep reality type track. Was gonna recommend more but fuq it I'm buzzed ha peace ✌️
Is that fact checked? lol
I mean probably!
You should listen to Mobb deep hell on earth frontlines
Wow what's that's intro? Beautiful woman. Beautiful voice.
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Thankyou for your service Sir. Whilst the world may forget a soldiers sacrifice, I shall not..
This song helped me cope with the fact i never had my father in my life. I never cared for war stories until i realized i was better off as my father was. The Vietnam War was worse for America than the great depression in terms of family structure
I'm gonna start a reaction channel that reviews other reaction channels.
It's not like there aren't 7000 of em on jootoob.
My reaction to this one?
It made me think "wow, I'm going to be getting recommendations for the next month from this guy and numerous more just like him 😂
You gave very little input that was meaningful
I'm a huge Vinnie Paz and JMT fan- I came to check this out because this is maybe my least favorite song of theirs. I didn't like it then, I don't like it now. The beat is terrible, Ra the Rugged doesn't help....it's all bad. As far as the fact check- no it's not accurate. It's indivicative of the bigger truth of severe civilian casualties and deaths, but it's more like 2 to 1- but that wasn't all of our doing either- the Vietcong were included in the civilian stats on both sides in North and South Vietnam.
This was an angry reaction? He dishonored his own father. Fucking disgusting!
You don’t know hiphop 😂 stop 🛑