I pray that the Lord will help you through this time, that he strengthens your faith in Him, and gives you and your family comfort. That He guide your doctors, you are completely cured and that you have a smooth and speedy recovery. Amen.
Lack of gapless playback is a deal killer. I don't care what the build quality is. Gapless is a 100% requirement. This thing is $700 and doesn't support the gapless playback of a $50 Sony DVD player. It is just weird to me that companies would spend so much on good DACs and components and leave out a basic requirement of the Redbook standard. For those that don't listen to classical, live albums, and prog rock I guess it is fine but man that is a weird thing to leave out on something so expensive.
Not having gapless playback reminds me of the 8-track player we had in my dad's car in 1970. An album that had long songs (ie: Led Zeppelin's first album) would feature a fadeout to silence during the song, then a giant kachunka as the player went to the next set of tracks, and then the song would fade back in at the same place it had started fading out. Aah-noy-ing
I agree 100%. What shortsightedness from this manufacturer. They've missed the boat with this one regarding gapless play. This is what happens when your engineers might be Millennials that weren't around in the '80s when CD players came on the scene. You can do it, Emotiva !! Go sharpen your pencils and fix this non-gapless issue. Thanks to this gentlemen for actually even mentioning whether or not it messes with the all so critical timing of songs or movements that are meant to flow into each other. That's sacred ground in my book and it ought not to be f#$^ked with. I own a good number of CD players (Sony, Onkyo, Yamaha, etc.) plus a bunch of Sony DVD players that I bought to use as CD players. Not only do they all sound good, but they all play gapless !!! If they fix the gapless issue, this would make for a nice player. Also, at this pricepoint, it should have a good quality digital to analog converter. This camp that feels that a separate DAC is going to be the Holy Grail of sound quality; I just don't buy into it. Unless they're (DAC manufacturers) designing their own chips, Manufacturers of CD players use the same off-the-shelf silicon DAC ICs as the folks that want you to buy a separate DAC component, rather than an embedded one. Just my feeling. Good luck with your fight against cancer. I know you will beat it soon, and be back to yourself again. Take care, and thanks for the video.
I find it unbelievable that this is a thing with CD players now. I’ve had CD players for 40 years and not one of them introduced gaps between tracks, it would have been unthinkable. If the CD format had done this from day one, it would have struggled to achieve the dominance it did, and would have possibly flopped.
@@haydendoan7691 Vintage CD players were designed to support the Redbook standard from the ground up. I think newer CD players from Chinese manufacturers are basing their CD players on digital media players or versions of Linux. These are basically computers reading CDs and playing the audio so gapless support has to be programmed in. They are somehow more complicated than vintage CD players but also more limited as many don't support features that were standard in the 90s.
What I dont understand is the dropping of eject on the remote controllers. Bought a Denon four years ago and desperately looked for a CD player that came with a remote that had the eject function , couldnt find one. And it was an expensive CD player , only the Marantz was more expensive. Simply put with a good CD player on the remote should be all the functions so that I never have to touch the player itself. So annoying.
Unbelievable that a company would think that non gapless playback is acceptable. Sounds like the firmware is just a free media player. It could be made from unobtainium, sound like $10k and cost $50, but not a chance I’m listening to an album where the tracks flow into each other with gaps.
@theheathster2 There are other options. Sony and Panasonic make Blu-ray players that are a few hundred dollars less than the Emotiva, have a solid build quality and follow correct CD standards. The Sony X800-M2 even supports SACD and DVD-audio. Plus you get support for fantastic sounding Blu-ray audio like Rhino's Quadio line.
Hi Bruce! Nice review of this CD player! Take care of yourself, boost your immune system, and get well soon. Happy listening to this remarkable CD player and your favorite CD's!! 🙂👍🎶🎶🎶
Sending my very best wishes from Scotland and hope all goes well in the coming months. I can’t agree with you on the ERC-4, the lack of gapless playback just kills many of my albums. What I completely agree with you on is your excellent choice of CDs. Donald Fagan’s The Nightfly is one of the best sounding albums ever made, can still remember buying the vinyl, hard to think that was 1982. I also hate, with a passion, the term Yacht Rock, shame people invent such stupid terms, the did that to jazz styles so many times, I find it derogatory.
Greetings from Australia and good luck with your treatment mate. Nobody is expecting you to upload with what you are going through. Just look after yourself.
The Erc4 is built like a tank. I returned and went with the Cambridge cd transport as I do need gapless playback. I mean seriously, imagine listening to Dark Side of the Moon or Abbey Road with gaps between every song. Come on Emotiva It's 2025...this isn't Russia! Spin on you crazy diamonds!
It is such a good player otherwise but getting through a live album with the pauses is annoying. One of the big selling points of CD was having 60 plus minutes of classical and concerts with no interuptions and not having to flip over records. I can't understand why this is neglected on something so expensive.
My Oppo 203 player sounds great too as a CD player but so does my 1989 Pioneer 6 Stack seperate component MIDI system. So I am not going to knock people who want decent sound quality from a CD player and this looks great. Love the blue lighting and the build quality reminds me of my Toshiba XE1 HD DVD Player which still works great with it’s awesome metal backlit remote control.
Not gapless meaning there's a moment of silence between tracks? So an album where the tracks blend into each other is going to be interrupted with little blips of silence between songs? I've dealt with that when burning my own CDs and it's a deal breaker.
@alm5693 Yes, that is what it means. If you listen to a live album or classical that is intended to be a continuous performance there will be a pause as it changes tracks. The issue with modern players from China is they are really more digital players that support playing audio from CDs than actual compact disc players that follow standards like Redbook. There are still players that support gapless but they are becoming rare. I've stuck with older players from before this nonsense started or blu-ray players from Sony and Panasonic that still follow standards.
is there a random button on the faceplate? this has always been the favorite feature on a cd player. However... this button seems to have all but disappeared. Is there any new cd player that has the random button ?
Outstanding as always Bruce. I have an Emotiva system but I'm currently just using a DVD player for CD's. You may have just sold me on upgrading to the ERD-4. Stay strong and I hope you are on the mend very soon.
@Lovelacewatkins139 Same as an LP? Records have been a gapless format since they started over a hundred years ago. One of the main selling points of CD was you didn't have to interrupt your music to flip the album over half way. This CD player interrupts live performances and classic for a second at every track. I'd rather listen to a record.
@@Lovelacewatkins139 If you can tolerate a gap between the last 2 movements of Beethoven’s 5th or any of the linked tracks on the Beatles’s White Album, then you’re not a serious listener.
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I pray that the Lord will help you through this time, that he strengthens your faith in Him, and gives you and your family comfort. That He guide your doctors, you are completely cured and that you have a smooth and speedy recovery. Amen.
Lack of gapless playback is a deal killer. I don't care what the build quality is. Gapless is a 100% requirement. This thing is $700 and doesn't support the gapless playback of a $50 Sony DVD player. It is just weird to me that companies would spend so much on good DACs and components and leave out a basic requirement of the Redbook standard. For those that don't listen to classical, live albums, and prog rock I guess it is fine but man that is a weird thing to leave out on something so expensive.
It is a strange decision. Why any manufacturer would do this is odd.
Not having gapless playback reminds me of the 8-track player we had in my dad's car in 1970. An album that had long songs (ie: Led Zeppelin's first album) would feature a fadeout to silence during the song, then a giant kachunka as the player went to the next set of tracks, and then the song would fade back in at the same place it had started fading out. Aah-noy-ing
I agree 100%. What shortsightedness from this manufacturer. They've missed the boat with this one regarding gapless play. This is what happens when your engineers might be Millennials that weren't around in the '80s when CD players came on the scene. You can do it, Emotiva !! Go sharpen your pencils and fix this non-gapless issue.
Thanks to this gentlemen for actually even mentioning whether or not it messes with the all so critical timing of songs or movements that are meant to flow into each other. That's sacred ground in my book and it ought not to be f#$^ked with.
I own a good number of CD players (Sony, Onkyo, Yamaha, etc.) plus a bunch of Sony DVD players that I bought to use as CD players. Not only do they all sound good, but they all play gapless !!!
If they fix the gapless issue, this would make for a nice player.
Also, at this pricepoint, it should have a good quality digital to analog converter. This camp that feels that a separate DAC is going to be the Holy Grail of sound quality; I just don't buy into it. Unless they're (DAC manufacturers) designing their own chips, Manufacturers of CD players use the same off-the-shelf silicon DAC ICs as the folks that want you to buy a separate DAC component, rather than an embedded one. Just my feeling.
Good luck with your fight against cancer. I know you will beat it soon, and be back to yourself again. Take care, and thanks for the video.
Thanks for the heads up & not having to waste 14:56 of my time on this.
I find it unbelievable that this is a thing with CD players now. I’ve had CD players for 40 years and not one of them introduced gaps between tracks, it would have been unthinkable. If the CD format had done this from day one, it would have struggled to achieve the dominance it did, and would have possibly flopped.
I had this player. It didn't do gapless. Deal breaker for me.
All the best to you with your health. Hang in there
Thanks, I appreciate the well wishes!
Hard for me to understand this lack of feature on a new CD player considering my vintage CD players all have gapless capabilities.
@@haydendoan7691 Vintage CD players were designed to support the Redbook standard from the ground up. I think newer CD players from Chinese manufacturers are basing their CD players on digital media players or versions of Linux. These are basically computers reading CDs and playing the audio so gapless support has to be programmed in. They are somehow more complicated than vintage CD players but also more limited as many don't support features that were standard in the 90s.
What I dont understand is the dropping of eject on the remote controllers. Bought a Denon four years ago and desperately looked for a CD player that came with a remote that had the eject function , couldnt find one. And it was an expensive CD player , only the Marantz was more expensive. Simply put with a good CD player on the remote should be all the functions so that I never have to touch the player itself. So annoying.
Unbelievable that a company would think that non gapless playback is acceptable. Sounds like the firmware is just a free media player. It could be made from unobtainium, sound like $10k and cost $50, but not a chance I’m listening to an album where the tracks flow into each other with gaps.
@theheathster2 There are other options. Sony and Panasonic make Blu-ray players that are a few hundred dollars less than the Emotiva, have a solid build quality and follow correct CD standards. The Sony X800-M2 even supports SACD and DVD-audio. Plus you get support for fantastic sounding Blu-ray audio like Rhino's Quadio line.
Take care and get well soon.
Hi Bruce! Nice review of this CD player! Take care of yourself, boost your immune system, and get well soon. Happy listening to this remarkable CD player and your favorite CD's!! 🙂👍🎶🎶🎶
I'm glad you enjoyed the review!
Sending my very best wishes from Scotland and hope all goes well in the coming months.
I can’t agree with you on the ERC-4, the lack of gapless playback just kills many of my albums.
What I completely agree with you on is your excellent choice of CDs. Donald Fagan’s The Nightfly
is one of the best sounding albums ever made, can still remember buying the vinyl, hard to think that
was 1982. I also hate, with a passion, the term Yacht Rock, shame people invent such stupid
terms, the did that to jazz styles so many times, I find it derogatory.
Hank you!
Good luck on the health/recovery. Enjoy the stereo and that nice cd player. It will help you feel better…
I appreciate it, thanks!
no gapless means its a complete failure. nothing else matters if it can't follow the CD spec.
Greetings from Australia and good luck with your treatment mate. Nobody is expecting you to upload with what you are going through.
Just look after yourself.
Hang in there buddy. We enjoy your videos and like you.
Thanks so much for the support!
Awesome news about this cd player. I like it.. I also want to check out these cds.
Remember you got this. Again, prayer UP NOW for you. Heal soon
The Erc4 is built like a tank. I returned and went with the Cambridge cd transport as I do need gapless playback. I mean seriously, imagine listening to Dark Side of the Moon or Abbey Road with gaps between every song. Come on Emotiva It's 2025...this isn't Russia!
Spin on you crazy diamonds!
It is such a good player otherwise but getting through a live album with the pauses is annoying. One of the big selling points of CD was having 60 plus minutes of classical and concerts with no interuptions and not having to flip over records. I can't understand why this is neglected on something so expensive.
Warranty details? Who pays for shipping if it needs warranty work?
My Oppo 203 player sounds great too as a CD player but so does my 1989 Pioneer 6 Stack seperate component MIDI system.
So I am not going to knock people who want decent sound quality from a CD player and this looks great.
Love the blue lighting and the build quality reminds me of my Toshiba XE1 HD DVD Player which still works great with it’s awesome metal backlit remote control.
Is this a new model, just released???
Be well sir, thanks for the video!
I hope that you'll get well soon!
Thanks
Wow love this CD player I need to check this out I am a CD listener.
Great video all the best on your heath.
Thanks 🙏🏻
Not gapless meaning there's a moment of silence between tracks? So an album where the tracks blend into each other is going to be interrupted with little blips of silence between songs? I've dealt with that when burning my own CDs and it's a deal breaker.
@alm5693 Yes, that is what it means. If you listen to a live album or classical that is intended to be a continuous performance there will be a pause as it changes tracks. The issue with modern players from China is they are really more digital players that support playing audio from CDs than actual compact disc players that follow standards like Redbook. There are still players that support gapless but they are becoming rare. I've stuck with older players from before this nonsense started or blu-ray players from Sony and Panasonic that still follow standards.
Does it read cd text? (not asking about MP3's)
is there a random button on the faceplate? this has always been the favorite feature on a cd player. However... this button seems to have all but disappeared. Is there any new cd player that has the random button ?
Many CD players that don't have a random button on the faceplate will have one on the remote control. My AudioLab has that setup.
@@GeeAitch-r1r Do you mean a shuffle function?
I had this player and returned it due to not having gapless playback.
I stick with my Nad C565bee, great CD player, thanks
thanks buddy take care !
You bet
Wish you well and thank you for the gracefull review .........
So nice of you
Outstanding as always Bruce. I have an Emotiva system but I'm currently just using a DVD player for CD's. You may have just sold me on upgrading to the ERD-4. Stay strong and I hope you are on the mend very soon.
I hope it’s a good upgrade for you!
Who gives a toss about a gap, just the same as an lp , get over it , deal breaker pfttt
@Lovelacewatkins139 Same as an LP? Records have been a gapless format since they started over a hundred years ago. One of the main selling points of CD was you didn't have to interrupt your music to flip the album over half way. This CD player interrupts live performances and classic for a second at every track. I'd rather listen to a record.
@@Lovelacewatkins139 If you can tolerate a gap between the last 2 movements of Beethoven’s 5th or any of the linked tracks on the Beatles’s White Album, then you’re not a serious listener.
@@SamWesting Well said.I would not fancy hearing the Alpine symphony on this machine. 20 plus sections meant to be played as one long piece.
Try listening to some classical CDs where the movements are broken up with gaps, it's maddening to listen to gaps every couple minutes.