Who are the Precursors?
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Who are the Precursors? What is their impact on the universe? Will they play an important role in the near future? All is revealed in this video!
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So to put it simply, The flood are basically self-reincarnated Precursors who became corrupted when they transfigured themselves into dust. And this whole universe is based on the fact that these Precursors are pissed off at the forerunners and have a new ideology of the beings of the universe becoming "Unified".
Whereas some like the Primordial are still out there locked in stasis who may become an ally in Halo 6?
Does that mean the Gravemind has memories of being a precursor? After all, he DID say:
*"And I have listened through rock and metal and time."*
The Gravemind is directly the Precursors, it's stated far more times that there is no difference between the Flood and Precursors and far more evidence weighs on the side that the Precursors were always the Flood before they were ground to dust--there is only one quote that referred to the dust as "defective", but that's most likely because the dust was expected to reform on it's own--but eventually it did, it was only called defective when it was first discovered by the Primordial. The dust technically did reform the Precursors--if the Precursors and Flood were never a different thing. It's also mentioned that the Flood existed far before the Precursors turned themselves to dust, which completely contradicts the idea that the Flood are just a corrupt form of the Precursors.
Also, sorry for responding to a comment from 2 years ago. xD
Lord Cultus dude I’m so confused
Lord Cultus You said If and likely for key points in your argument. Therefore that doesn’t help your argument bro. Feels like your reaching just a little bit.
Zombies are not human. Zombies are weapons/corruptions of human bodies.
The Flood is the same. The Flood is not Precursor. The Flood is a weapon/corruption created from Precursor Self Reincarnation Dust.
Essentially, it’s as if a human being took the human ashes/dust from a funeral somewhere and weaponized it/corrupted it to (instead of biodegrade like it’s supposed to) react with any living biomass to create a sentient bioweapon.
Notes:
Idk how The Forerunners could actually defeat a Tier 0 4th Dimensional species. Think about it. You a 3 Dimensional Species fighting an actual war against a 4th Dimensional Tier 0 Species that GAVE you all the technology you gained your inspiration from AND who INVENTED THE MANTLE OF RESPONSIBILITY AND bestowed it UPON YOU. Yet somehow you beat this 4 Dimensional TIER 0 Species!!! The only way that’s possible is if the Precursors just suck at warfare? Poetic License my ass. Anyways
Forerunners have ABSOLUTELY no right to be upset if the Precursors take back the Mantle from them. In the same way a child has no right to be upset when Daddy takes back his own gun he gave you as a gift for your 18th birthday cause he thought you were ready for the responsibility. The Forerunners war against the Precursors was unjustified and immature and is an embarrassment to their race for doing so. So the Precursors have every right to be upset and want revenge against the Forerunners.
The Precursors did wrong however in allowing so much collateral damage aka dragging other species that aren’t Forerunner into it. Aka us.
Weaponizing/corrupting the Self Reincarnation Precursor dust created the sentient weapon we know as the Flood. That’s a fact. The Primordial is not your friend. It’s the Gravemind created from an infected Precursor that afterwards accumulated even more biomass to become a Protogravemind then a gravemind as we know it. It stayed on the sidelines while the rest of the Flood combat forms and infectious forms did the dirty work.
Why? Because The Primordial is essential to the Flood winning BECAUSE it’s a gravemind.
Flood become less harmful when their gravemind is destroyed therefore it’s wise for the Primordial to stay on the sidelines and deceptively help the humans in their war etc etc and tell them the truth while conveniently lying about and not even mentioning it being the Boss of the flood that the ancient humans were dealing with at the time. The Primordial did what it had to do to focus any attention on its Flood out there doing the dirty work while presenting itself as the friend of the ancient humans trying to help them defeat the flood with a “cure” lol. It’s called double crossing dude. You have to remember this when interacting with your Primordial sources.
That weapon the Flood is sentient because it is 4th Dimensional and thus bound by Neural Physics just like most Precursor inventions.
Uncorrupted P-Dust reincarnates (aka restores 3 more dimensions to) the currently 1 Dimensional Precursor (that was originally 4 dimensions) that the dust was made from.
The Primordial was killed by the Forerunners.
He better not fucking come back, 343 are constantly making the classic sequel writing mistake that is bringing back characters and things that were supposed to be dead. It's awful writing, it's not surprising, it only insults the fans.
Driver Nephi I agree. The Primordial’s consciousness lives merely as information and wisedom within the new gravemind that we presumably destroyed in Halo 3
Assuming the Lore of Halo 3 says we in fact killed the gravemind, then the Primordial’s consciousness and all the memories and knowledge it acquired is truly gone.
Thus if a new gravemind was made it would be its own self aka without the knowledge of the Primordial.
HOWEVER if the Halo 3 Lore dictates the gravemind wasn’t killed but only hurt and lost that battle during Halo 3’s ending, THEN the Primodial’s knowledge and wisedom acquired by that same gravemind is still on the table for future lore development.
CONCLUSION: The Lore of Halo 3 dictates whether the Primordial is still “in the game” or not. So check your Halo 3 sources.
I love this. Halo isn't just about a guy with a gun in space.
egg xactly
ThePyrobrid like Infinite warfare
ThePyrobrid it originally was but now that it's done so well it has created a universe around itself unlike doom which never worked to expand its story until recently
Grendel Krieg actually the original doom does have a story. Doomguy watched his pet bunny get killed by demons so he swore revenge on satan
Actually even in Combat Evolved it referenced Bornstellar. I think they had shit planned.
Im pretty sure the context halo 5 uses when speaking of the mantle is correct. I mean, the main characters dont even know of the precursors so it would seem correct for them to assume it was a forerunner creation, considering they dont even know the extent to their tech, wouldn't be able to tell if a certain tech was precursor or forerunner. They would, untill they find out about the precursors, assume that all advanced tech would be forerunner.
True
Good point, I don't even think cortana could tell the difference. The books say the forerunners built a lot of their cities on top of precursor ruins so it could all be mixed together by lost time.
the forerunners did not even know that the domain and the mantle were precursor creations until just before the halos were activated. they had been assuming that both were created by their ancestors prior to the destruction of Gibalb and the erasure of all their records and history that was not part of the domain. so I think it's fair for Cortana to believe the same thing.
Also, as explained in this video, Precursor architecture looks similar to Forerunner architecture. That'd be easy to mix up
I get what you're saying about the characters being ignorant of the Precursors. But that ignorance is not consistent. For example, after the supposed death of Cortana in Halo 4, Master Chief becomes psychologically disturbed and emotionally broken. When Master Chief finds out that Cortana is still alive in Halo 5: Guardians, he is awestruck. Rather than comfort Master Chief and console him, Blue Team instead acts as though Master Chief is fine.
I don't think 343 has changed the origins of the Domain. Everyone in Halo 5 simply assumes it is Forerunner, because what else could it possibly be? The Forerunners did a pretty good job of wiping the galaxy clean of any evidence the Precursors ever had of existing. Hence the Forerunners are seen as the standard of high-tech.
thats true, I doubt any of the other races (even the Prophets) have even the faintest clue what the Precursors are
Quite possible and probably explained the mistake. And an escape goat.
Yeah, the only people who know of the precursors are ONI, if I remember right, and I if I remember this right too, they thought it was all a lie.
When the Halo Array was fired it wiped out all of the Star Roads and Precursor structures.
@@Angryp0nY assumed to that is not the entire case...while it may have destroyed most of them there is still the fact that outside the milky way they existed and before the universe existed they existed..so I mean you don't really know its more of a are they just rebuilding and repairing and all still exist..its all possible..
Wait, if The Domain is sentient.
Does that mean it could be controlling Cortana?
***** Me too ^^
THeViros lefirst whoa, mind blown
117 Likes, oh yeah. Bad ass number calls for a bad ass quote, Cortana: "What if we miss?", Chief: "We wont."
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Smart kid
Holy shit this makes a lot of sense
Jesus this is deep. Halo feels like a religion at this point.
Wolfman7870 Halotheism
Halo is offering a modernist mythology , similar to the old Greek, Norse mythology
Are you sure it wasn’t already?
You can make a religion out of this
@@yipyap6161 The Covenant sure did.
My theory on the domain is that it stretches across the entire universe and the halo array ONLY scarred a small hole in its whole body... Slowly after the halo array fired the gap was closed trough some sort of self healing process :/
Patrick O'Sullivan Yeah I'm thinking the Created is just one of the many ways the Precursors will test Humanity!
My theory is that the domain is a precursor itself
Brandon Lockwood It is a Living being so probably a precursor or greater...
The Domain is a Precursor's construct. However, it is quite possible for sentient being to exist in it sort like the composer.
Do you think that's what was happening when that giant wall is rising on Halo 3 I always thought it was kind of a transformer cuz something was activated forgot what it was what is the level right before the ring explodes
Your videos are actually beginning to convince me that Halo 5's terrible story could be salvaged if a good writer gets behind it. Let's hope that happens and that Halo's story once again becomes legendary.
WafflingMean44 Well, 343 did fire the lead writer after the backlash. Then they hired someone better
Oh that's fantastic to hear
If only I had this hope for the Last Jedi
343 hired Paul Crocker! Crocker was the lead narrative for Batman Arkham Asylum and City!
Joshua Benton damn dude I felt that
My theory on why the Domain is still around is that it's universe spanning and the arrays only destroyed it in the Milky Way and like the skin healing from a cut its back in the Milky Way
The Halo array should have at least blasted a giant hole in the Domain in this galaxy (assuming the Domain has a physical location in some higher level slipspace dimension).
you are implying that the milky way is a significant part of the universe, if the domain spans the entire universe the halo arrays would have been like a pin sized hole
The one main point I respectfully disagree with you on is in regards to humanity's final test. You say Cortana is weakening the galaxy before a Precursor attack, while I believe that Cortana IS the final test.
Also, You glossed over the Forerunners' attack on the Precursors and made it sound like the gods were just exterminated, when the explanation more consistent with the books (as I understand them) is that the Precursors eternal existence is not bound to their physical forms, so letting the Forerunners kill them as they did, caused no harm to the Precursors themselves.
What makes you believe Cortana is humanity's final test? Was she set up by the Flood? She was with the Gravemind for some time during the Human-Covenant War.
Anthony Doc Cortana in Halo 5 is a rampant fragment of the original, granted meta-stability by the Domain (which is itself actually Abaddon's infinite memory. The reason this fragment of Cortana is functional at all is because she's benefiting from Precursor technology. Also, if you pay attention, most of what she says goes straight back to things the Didact said, or the Gravemind told her.
If there is to be a final test, I see no reason why it wouldn't be the Created. Additionally, based on my understanding of the Flood, I see no reason for them to re-emerge, given the drastic measures they took to remove themselves from the picture on three occasions. Simply put, if the Flood re-emerge and don't consume everything, it will be obvious that they're holding back, which could prove to undermine their test if humanity doesn't actually believe the galaxy is in mortal danger.
Lennard Church Hmm.. that is interesting and it would make sense considering Cortana is using the Mantle the same way the Forerunners used it which was Peace through force. But one thing still boggles my mind. How the hell does Cortana have access to the Domain? I thought the Domain was destroyed when the Forerunners activated the Halos Array since the Halos can destroy Precursor artifacts.
Anthony Doc Check out the story, "Promises to Keep" in the book _Halo Fractures._
In short, the Domain is the memory of Abaddon, a Precursor ancilla, and when the Halos fired, the Domain was erased, but Abaddon was left otherwise fully functional, and he spent the time after the Halos fired creating new organic life based off of the forerunner constructs scattered around Maethrillian.
A team of Forerunners did manage to reboot the Domain, beginning its repair process, but I don't know if the memories stored within it would be regained or not. We are dealing with a fictional god-race after all.
The two ways I can picture Abaddon surviving are that either he's made out of matter instead of whatever "neural physics" is, or that the Precursors had a way to block the Halos but didn't use it anywhere else.
Lennard Church dayum
Sounds like the precursors aren't originally from our universe and this could mean that they can't be wiped out entirely as they may be in countless universes and could return in that way.
I don't know, getting erased from existence or turned into a single cellular organism doesn't sound very fun
think of humans... we consist of millions of things living together working as a single unit... our conscious is just the result of the mass of information thats regularly collected to function more properly... xD
so you never know... it may be fun... but i would rather be the head and not that ass of this single organism... xD bwahaaha
Frigging Fascist Hey, at least you get to sit out on any future conflicts, watch, and much on fourth dimension popcorn.
I love how through the whole series we've been fighting what's essentially the vengeful spirit of the Precursors.
Remember the time we all thought that early concept art of the Promethean Knight was a Precursor?
The mantle was just damaged by the halo array. Bornstellar then went back and fixed it. This is stated in Halo: Fractures
I think you mean the Domain. The Mantle is the responsibility for defending and nurturing the other races of the galaxy.
Also, the Domain is the memory of Abaddon (the Organon), and Bornstellar's team 'fixing' it was essentially a hard reboot to jumpstart its recovery.
The Mantle is not tangeable it's a mental thing, a mere rule.
Halo has the most incredible and underrated lore across all forms of entertainment. The Halo universe is so rich with lore, that I’m genuinely afraid that the games will never do it justice. Not unless 343 gets triple the funding and produces a miracle
Wait, so the precursors are the origin creators of the Internet?
John Pierce I N F I N I T E S H I T P O S T I N G ?
That's why they didn't resist genocide, they were all just spam shitposting in their species-wide group chat the entire time.
@MinecraftPro15 man the precursors must love them some historical accuracy
So they were pretty much gods, but got beaten even with their superior technology?
If you're playing an online game, and an AI kills your character (avatar of yourself), it doesn't mean any harm was done to the real you. Similarly, the Precursors let the Forerunners destroy their mortal forms, because they, themselves were beyond the abilities of the Forerunners to harm.
Well, no; The Precursors were killed. If they had allowed the Forerunners to win, then why would they seek vengeance?
***** The Forerunners have to be punished for their hubris. They have no comprehension of what it means to hold the Mantle, but they want it anyway, and will wipe out entire races just to have it.
I've read through the books multiple times, and what I've seen points to the Flood playing the villain, rather than actually being a psychotic raging mess hellbent on consuming all living things.
(Think Darth Revan from Kotor 1 & 2, Revan became a Sith to wage war on the Republic to battle-harden it so it would have a chance to survive something much worse which would come later. The Flood's actions throughout the Forerunner Saga and the videogames can easily be described as the manipulation of galactic events to ensure that Humanity attains the Mantle, and is wise enough to use it well when they get it. Too many times throughout the series we see the Flood not being as efficient as it can be towards the goal of consuming everything. However, if their actual goal is molding Humanity to fulfill the Precursors' wishes, then them holding back makes sense.)
The Flood is no longer the Precursors, what essentially happened was after the rings fired; The Flood changed it's objective from getting revenge, to consuming. Because it pretty much went feral, after the original Gravemind(s) were either destroyed or starved to death new ones had to come into being; one that would be comprised more of Human and Covenant species DNA than Precursor.
There are likely surviving Precursors, as there are surviving Forerunners; but The Flood is a completely different entity who's sole objective is to devour and grow.
***** I believe that is the Flood's narrative it gives people. However, through multiple readings of the Forerunner Saga, it seems clear to me that the Flood is not actually trying to consume everything. Everything the Flood does, both before and after the Halos fired, manipulates galactic events to maneuver humanity into a position to hold the Mantle, and I believe this is the Flood's primary purpose after dealing with the Forerunners.
The Flood simply holds back far too much for any other explanation to fit their actions (in my opinion).
I've thought about them saying the forerunners built the domain to. Was thinking that maybe it's just that the domain is telling cortana that it was made by the forerunners to deceive cortana into weakening the galaxy to a point where the precursors could attack again.
the flood
In halo 2, Cortana was left on the flood infested. and because she is composed of organic matter as well as artificial, meaning she can be influenced by the grave mind. since the flood is technically a precursor decendant, perhaps cortana was corrupted by the grave mind in her time on the ship. and at the time of her death somehow transcended to domain to be annexed, but took control of it due fact she had trace amounts of precursor matter
Josh Lange logic plague
RELOAD THE FUCKING SHOTGUN. MY OCD IS KILLING ME
I like watching halo lore videos to prove them wrong. YOU ARE THE ONLY GUY THAT IS NEVER WRONG!!!!!
You do know that in the Halo lore, it is stated the Bornstellar (Isodidact) goes to the Abaddon and one of his team mates gives up her life to restart and repair the Domain. It was never stated that it was wiped from existence, just that the forerunners were being denied access to it.
"Multitude of galaxies"
So there could be precursors in other galaxies who wrote this one off.
HERE BE BATSHIT INSANE DRAGONS.
"The Gravemind tells us something impossible to understand- that most of what has been gathered comes from before there were stars. We do not believe in such a time, but the Mind insists … The life-patterns and living wisdom of a hundred billion years".
"That's the power the Precursors once had ... isn't it? They shaped and moved galaxies! They created
us! How did we ever manage to defeat them?"
Bear, Greg (2013-03-19). Halo: Silentium (Forerunner) (p. 322). Tom Doherty Associates. Kindle Edition.
I think you forgot to mention that the star roads were used by the flood to destroy the greater ark during the forerunner flood war
I have a theory about how the Domain is still present in the Milky Way galaxy after the activation of the Halos.
What if the Domain is still "alive" because it is somehow attached to all the sort of living beings in a quantum level? (in short words: Domain lives while there's any life form created by the Precursors alive in the galaxy or even in the universe)
And why would Precursors do that? Well, I can think about two possibilities:
1: They use all lifeforms they create as a way of sustain all knowledge acquired by those capable of using the Domain (supposing there are others civilizations in other galaxies using it). In short words: a backup to their knowledge.
2: I'll see an analogy to explain this possibility: they give you the account, but doesn't give password so that you find out by yourself (or until they think you are worthy, if they used to oversee everyone here before the Forerunners kill them). They could have "installed" the "tool" to access the Domain in all candidates to be their successors in the Mantle for convenience (in case the Precursors would teach the successor how to access the Domain) or expecting the real successor would be the first species capable os access the Domain naturally (and being one step closer to the Tier 0)
I have even crazier theories, but they involve the idea that the Domain may be a living being (as it was showed in Halo: Silentium, when the Domain asked to testify to a Forerunner Juridical)
I think Halo 5's script in general was an error.
Damn those *Foreigners!!!*
Precursors in suspended animation?
Hmm...
Public Comment Yes it’s like Cryosleep you find in Halo Wars 1 and Halo Wars 2
Wait why is the video on for 9:11 seconds
9:10
colton sutherlin dude its 9:11 minuets long
I just realized that the Timeless One looks like a warper.
Uno Agtagma ahh from subnuatica
I loved the descriptions of the precursors and their technology. It would be awesome to see it in game.
Waited so long for a good video about the precursors :)
Question: How the Forerunners managed to extinct the Precursors although the precursor have had a never-to-reach TIER?
Thanks :) They basically caught them by surprise, and the Precursors were completely unprepared for a full scale war.
Oh cool :) Thanks for the fast answer. You're great :D
My theory is that precursors didn't want to destroy their creations (flood was basically an accident) and fled the galaxy leaving some of them behind to make it look like they were defeated.
I have an alternate answer. The depiction of the Precursors from the Forerunner Saga puts them existing outside of space and time, which would make them literally unreachable for the Forerunners. The "Precursors" exterminated would be the biological forms that Precursors had made for themselves to serve as avatars to interact with space-time in a more personal way.
The novels state that the Precursors didn't fight back. This makes sense with my explanation because if the destruction of their bodies isn't a threat to their existence, they don't really need to fight, and allowing the Forerunners to go as far as they did, simply proved why the Forerunners weren't worthy to hold the Mantle.
It is also implied in Halo: CE, as well as the Forerunner Saga that the Forerunners and Humanity may have once been the same species, but the divergence was due to one faction performing extensive genetic engineering on themselves to try to create the perfect race. So the Precursors may have promised the initial race that they would inherit the Mantle, but when the race split into two, they chose the non-genetically self-engineered race (humanity).
+Lennard Church Or maybe they realized at bungie/343 that they made precursors extremely overpowered and decided to step away from them saying just that they're gone.
How the fore runners beat the precursors is beyond me
so pretty much like gods
That level was hard af on legendary. I get chills looking at it.
Maybe the Flood rebuilt the Domain after all, "Halo doesn't kill Flood, it kills its food..." "...the only way to beat the Flood was to starve them to death."
until you find out that all those flood forms in containment on ancient forerunner structures all over the place haven't eaten a thing in millions of years... xb guess they dont starve either and its another thing the halo characters mistakenly assume.. xb
Well the ones housed on rings were kept for study so it's fairly reasonable the rings kept them alive to keep trying to find ways to combat them.
I would say that the domain is in another dimension, and what happened when the halo arrays were fired, the domain wasn’t destroyed, but instead the parts that allow beings to access the domain were destroyed. And because it’s organic, it just rebuilt itself over thousands of years. The domain maybe even just shut out the forruners and that’s why they couldn’t access it after the arrays were fired.
I also like the theory of the precursors being the flood intentionally, not as a form of corruption. That’s an awesome theory too
5:47 CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND
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The Domain could stretch across the universe and be accessed anywhere in the universe hence the milky way part severed and then it regrew thanks to the other parts, or I think that is what happened. The Domain could probably heal itself given enough time.
If I were a Precursor I would not want all the information that has been collected in 1 galaxy, I would spread it out to other places so if 1 copy gets destroyed I have another copy.
Song at 5:16? Really need to start giving a track list.
all this happened because the after the Forerunners betrayal, the Precursors weren't reminded of the ideas of love and compassion for life, and instead retained pain, anger, sadism.
in short, because they never got hugs.
Hello HiddenXperia. I'm new to you channel and as someone who has read the Forerunner novels, I thought that this video was very well done.
There is a theory that the firing of the Halo Array may not have destroyed the Domain, but at the very least damaged or corrupted it, which may explain Cortana's change in personality after coming in contact with it, in the same manner that a computer's memory can have its data corrupted.
I also hope at the Precursors will make some kind of appearance in the games and that Halo has not been reduced to a generic "AI Overlord" story. Thoughts?
Watching this video after halo infinite and the endless is so awesome. You were right in many of your thoughts.
"Canonically we would lose... hard" To be honest I don't think the idea of defeating a single isolated Precursor without its technology let alone one who admitted to being just a messenger and not a warrior. Quite acceptable it is true that John had more problems dealing with the Didact but he was the leader of the Foreruners' military forces and had many improvements made to his own body, moreover the Precursors are said to be a very advanced civilization but not a civilization made of gods, they were hunted across the galaxy by the Foreruners and many were trying to escape. So the idea that we can fight Harbringer as she tries to establish a connection and fight the weapon and (possibly) Offencive Bias to me is acceptable, however how we are going to fight ALL species in the future is complicated
Jesus not even the smartest humans could comprehend 4 dimensions
Try all
Reach out
The fourth dimension is actually time.
Great video! Something that might give you a chuckle: UA-cam thinks when you say “forerunner” that you’re actually saying “foreigner”! UA-cam’s having a go at everyone who’s watching the preview before tapping on the video.
what is the song in the start of the video
I would love to see a precourser in and have them destroy the flood thinking of them as malfunctions
The precursors aren't machines and neither are the flood
the forerunners kinda forgot that the domain was a precursor construct aswell in the defence of the writers.
jordi buchner also the characters in h5 didn’t even know that the precursors existed so they assumed the forerunners created it
I hopped into this series ass backwards with 3 being my first time playing as chief years ago and I was playing catch up with the storyline and lore. Love learning new things even years later now about my childhood favorites.
Maybe in the next game we'll find out that there was an even older species that was more advanced and more bullshit!
Halo: precursors
Pacific rim: precursors
Subnautica: precursors
did the Precursors know before hand that the dust would be contaminated and mutate ? because they used it as a act of revenge, so they must have known before hand ???
how did the Forerunners defeat the Precursors?
the Precursors were way more advanced by a lot.
thats one thing i did not understand bout the Forerunner Trilogy.
Perhaps the precursors were peaceful creatures who couldn't use their abilities for war?
The precursors are beings outside of space and time. The forerunners only defeated most of their physical interactional forms. However the precursors are basically God in a scenes, so they aren't dead
Halo novelization makes it clear that the Precursors pre-conceptualized their defeat. So it was a planned event anywho to test the Forerunners and to make a point they don't deserve the Mantle of Responsibility. The Precursors were admittedly surprised by the rebellion. However, it's like how people's avatars or factions are defeated or killed by AI in a video game, it doesn't really legitimately affect them in reality.
Maybe the Domain wasn't destroyed because it was not a physical thing. At least in the books.
What's with the constant weapon swap
James Lawson cause most people find it satisfien. like myself
James Lawson also for the flamethrower and turrets, dropping and grabbing them lets you move slightly faster
The nucleus of one single flood cell, contains all the knowledge of the precursors, the domain is inside of every flood super cell
What if the precursor allowed the forrunners to "kill" them and restarted as humans
tucker nalley k
no
Sorry. But no
The Precursors Constructs could possibly have a regenerative property to them leading to the eventual restoration of the Domain and other Precursor Artifacts and Constructs yet to be discovered.
...... when did halo get this..... stupid.... I miss the days of halo 1 and 2, where the flood origins were unknown other than they were from another galaxy, Humans were Forrunner that survived the firing of the Halo rings. And the Covenant were just misguided.
webduelist Nah, this is much better. The story is much, much more fleshed out.
Only now trying to get the halo story as always been a mainly PS guy. The very first halo game on 1st xbox is the biggest leap in game quality i've maybe ever seen. Astounding graphics, smooth gameplay and storyline. Wish I'd played the series across all the X platforms.
First yea #SaveTheFalcon
#SaveTheHornet ;)
+HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! I'd like a hornet a lot more than a falcon.
HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! What if the Precursors are still alive but in another Galaxy watching, waiting to return to aid the Milky Way Galaxy on rebuilding their home world and help other species after the flood war
THANOS!!!!!!!!!!!!
2:36 one could theorise that the mixup regarding the Domain could be due to archeological error. These structures did exist for hundreds of thousands of years and we know that the Forerunners based their architecture off of Precursor designs which could be why certain parties thought the Domain to be Forerunner rather than Precursor.
so basically the precursors are Jesus?
the precursors died for the forerunners sins.
lol
only more believable
Collyn Brown as if
WORLD WAR HULK PLAYS so a being that defies the laws of life and physics suddenly is more believable than Jesus...
1)Jesus is magical and shit
2) precursors are magical and shit (also they're from a video game that makes up its own science)
3)???
4)precursors are more likely to have existed than Jesus
sounds to me like someone's biased against religion
I love how deep we go into these Halo lores😎😎😎
Wait are u playing on easy
I think he's playing on legendary
Well if the flood where originally the precursors. And Cortona was infected by the flood using the logic plague. Then Cortona going to the domain (remember precursors structures) then maybe her actions in halo 5 where just the floods way of weakening galaxy for the return of the flood in halo 6
The video is 9 minutes and 11 seconds long...
The Precursors did 9/11! 😳
If you recall in the book Ghosts of Onyx, the team of spartan threes discovered some of their fellow spartans in some sort of cryo stasis, but not forzen, more so suspended somewhere in between Slipspace and real space making them virtuialy safe from any form of threat including that of the Halo array. Whos to say that the Domain had not been kept this same way, allowing it to survive the firing of the Halo's. since the pulse did not affect things in slipspace
Do you have the quotation from Ghost of Onyx saying it would definitively protect them from the Halo array? In Halo Silentium the Forerunners expressed some doubt regarding if the Halos would affect ships in slipspace, but never said that the Halos definitively couldn't.
You got the whole tier thing backwards. Tier 0 is primitive not tier 7.
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Iron wall what? No. Its a countdown scale. 7 is primitive, 2 is interstellar, 1 is world builder, 0 is transient.
Lol no YOU are wrong iron wall
Imagine having such a huge and deep lore and focusing most of your budget and communication on storyless multiplayer
The multiplayer is what keeps the game alive and is beloved by the entire fanbase. Try again
@@Chiefinnn I know and I'm glad it is. I just wish there was more lore-related ingame content
Bullshit 343 added in their forerunner saga.
Still has some of the best books in Halo lore history, like they are simply amazing.
hurr durr 343 ruined halo /s
whether you like it or not its part of the universe now. games change over time. get the fuck over it.
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+halowraith1 they added stuff that was ridiculous though.
Since the domain was created with neural physics, it exists like the precursors. Both physically there and not physically there out side yet inside our reality
Brandon Miller I don't understand it!
I turn around for like 5 (years) minutes and the halo lore is absolute rubble. Halo was a game series about UNSC vs covenant oh and also there is ancient Zombies with some mystery about a long gone race.
Promethian Promethian Primordial pre-halo-mankind Precursors
Im sorry what? this is like some low tier fiction written by a Twelve year old.
Max Awesom This lore has been around for a long time, bud. More than 5 years
Not really.
Look. first of all, the principal problem with the presentation of the forerunners, really beginning with halo 4, is that they went from mysterious set dressing to having a feature role in the story in the form of enemies. i heard a complaint (one of the big Halo you tubers) that these structures have been desolate for 100k years, how are they still in prime condition, floaty bits included (the map "high noon", a remake of hang 'em high, and ironically one of 343's first contributions to the halo cannon is in my eyes one of the best depictions of how Forerunners should be. things are in working order but desolate and dust covered). How is a race 100k years gone still as active and dangerous to/as our current protagonist factions?
The Organon does not exist. It was a rumor that originated from the Precursor construct known as Abaddon, which the Forerunner capital Maethrillian was built around. The IsoDidact and other Forerunners deactivated it when they returned to Maethrillian decades after the Halos fired.
Well, see Halo Fractures, where it seems like that may not be fully true...
Halo isn’t your average shooter game and these amazing videos prove me right
What trips me out is that this is in our 1 galaxy….. there’s trillions of galaxy’s in the universe
Too small
I think that humans thought it was a forerunner construct, prior to Cortana accessing it and realizeing it is more.
I like that flame thrower trick you was doing
To explain the domain read halo fractures story promises to keep it kinda explains how domain is back
My theory on how the Domain is in halo 5 is that the halo array didn't completely destroy it but damaged it enough that it needed to close itself off to repair the damage done by the halos
It's simple, the domain is stored in a faraday cage like container that prevents it from being destroyed by the halos.
Very interesting and informative! I've wanted to play the newer Halo games but I stopped at 3 because I went over to PC and PS4. Great content, subscribed!
you know, precursors thought turning itself dust like endless did will resurrect themselves for vengeance and malice to forerunners
Just based on the first minute of explanation, they sound like Timelords crossed with The Founders from Deep Space 9. Scary shit.
I believe the domain data was erased like when you delete some thing but was added to over time by other precursors.
0:22 animation footage - is that from Halo legends?
4 years later we now know, surviving Forerunner at the last request of the Librarian reconstructed the Domain but not without sacrificing one of the workers and tried for their crimes by a Primordial. Now we know.
Also, thoughts on the Domain being back in Halo 5, and being referred to as a Forerunner creation. Since I read the Forerunner novel trilogy, I think this is acceptable for Halo 5. Here's why. The revelation of the Domain being a Precursor creation, not a Forerunner on, was only ever revealed to the Librarian by the Gravemind, right before the Halos were activated. As of the Forerunner novel trilogy, Librarian was the only non-Flood, non-Precursor, who was aware of this fact, and being stuck on Earth (or Erde Tyrene) as she was, and the Flood dominating the galaxy at that point, she had to way to let anyone else know (she also got rid of her ships, sent everyone else away, and pretty much had no technology to use by the end of that). Everyone else, even the Forerunners themselves, had always thought the Domain was made by the Forerunners. So as far as Halo 5 stating the Domain is a Forerunner creation, well sure, that fits, because no one else ever knew otherwise, and there was no way to record that information and have it survive 100,000 years for humanity and the Covenant to fin later. Halo: Fractures, specifically "Promises to Keep", goes back and addresses the Domain's destruction, bringing it back for the sake of Halo 5, and closing that loop. But, by the end of that story, the Domain needs a lot of time...cosmic scale time.....to rebuild itself, and there was still no way to save that information for later generations to know. Technically, though the Domain rebuilt itself, all the information that was once held within should probably still be gone. This lack of info would explain why the Ur-Didact was still insane when he was released from his cryptum in Halo 4. As for Cortana and Halo 5, they never really do say clearly if the Domain retains any Forerunner or Precursor information. All they do is refer to it as being able to cure A.I.s of rampancy.
Imagine if all this is true and is going to happen, and we have been prepared to know what to do in order to inherit the Mantle of Responsibility by being taught the information in these games 500+ years from now.
I’m not too versed in halo lore but from what has been said in this video about neuro physics meaning that the universe and its constructs are alive is it possible that instead of the domain being repaired it simply healed like a living organism might?
I saw a video online explaining that the librarian sent a few forrunners to repair the domain after the halo awary was fired 100,000 years ago
Yes, if I recall correctly, the specific short story that tells that tale is "Promises to Keep".
I just had a Geostorm ad play before the video... HOLY SHIT!!!
Speaking more on the Precursors. I would love a spin-off about the Forerunner-Precursor/Flood wars. Would be interesting to see the Precursor's weapons and tech in action. xD Great video!! Love listening to these lore videos.
4:59 "In a Galaxy far far away."
btw thank 4 making this video I've always been the most interested in in the halo lore of the precursors out of anything except the chief
Since the precursors can shape shift and basically live forever what if chios dubbo is a precursor
i dont know whats weirder, the style of these videos that make the halo universe real or that i want the halo universe to be real
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So here’s a thought and I’m sure someone brought this up before. The domain is a sentient being, and the forerunners and precursors both blurred the lines between what most of us would consider life. So what if this domain wasn’t completely eradicated and healed itself over the millennia? “Life finds a way” as they say.
+HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! Your videos are great they really help to explain a lot of thingsI don't yet know about the lore since I haven't read the Forerunner Saga yet. Thanks Hidden!
Who do you think would win? The Precursors (from the Halo universe) or the Leviathan (from the Mass Effect universe)?