Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery - Rolled Xterra - Warden Gulch (Keystone, CO)
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2020
- Sunday October 4th two teams spent the day at the very end of Warden Gulch Trail east of Keystone recovering a Xterra that rolled approximately 6 times off the trail.
This was an extremely complicated pull. Due to the steep terrain and instability of the shelf road above the vehicle, the safest route to winch was just over 150 yards north to a wide stable flat spot. While we prefer to always stay on the trail, safety had to preside on this one and we took a handful of vehicles approximately 100 feet off trail to minimize further risk of injury to any of the team members.
Team 1 arrived first and began assessing the pull, reseating beads on the driver side tires, and working to pull the vehicle down the boulder field and back up the final hill to the trail.
Once up the hill, Team 2 took over rigging the vehicle for transport down to pavement where a tow truck could be arranged by the vehicle owner.
This operation was just shy of 12,000 feet in elevation, and took 8 solid hours of rigging lines and winching to get it on the trail, as well as an additional 90 minutes to dead tow it off the mountain. Outstanding teamwork by both teams pushing through an extremely tiring day at elevation to make this a success! - Авто та транспорт
You all are really good people. Everyone will need help at some point in life, thanks for being there. I actually am impressed with how well the Xterra held up to rolling six times?
Extarra's are great suvs
I think the guy with the Superduty was using his foot to rev the truck while winching. Ford has a pin in the PCM that can be grounded which will then keep your engine rpms elevated. They also have another pin that if grounded maintains battery voltage by increasing the engine speed. There are instructions and diagrams on which wire does what. These are part of the upfitter sheets that go to companies which convert these trucks into other units. These are always hooked up on tow trucks, ambulances, and things like that. A toggle switch and some wire can save the operator of that truck from footing the throttle all the time. Just a suggestion. Great video.
Thanks again man, always a great adventure.
Great video as always Justin. Also awesome recovery. Thanks for sharing!
It was a picture perfect day to be above tree line!
Good lord that was a beast of a pull! Made more complicated with lack of anchor points to utilize snatch blocks. Very impressive.
Nice job! That couldn't have been easy. Nice to see an XJ on the team too!
LMFAO I’d love to be the insurance claims adjuster on that one. You all earned it that day, including the winch which sounded like it’s worm gear took a dump.
Just walking up and down that embankment 10 times with equipment, and you’ve done your workout for the week. Like you, I also priced out the 600ft coil of line, and that stuff is expenSIVE.
Thanks for recording and thanks for posting.
Whoa! What a video! Glad they will be ok!
I was just up there in my Gladiator a couple of weeks ago. Wouldn’t have even thought of driving up that far. Stopped where you guys parked the trucks. Crazy.
Wise choice
Beautiful territory. Glad you guys can get these wrecks out of the mountains. Hope the people are ok.
They were ok and onsite with us for the recovery
37:25 Me: “Hey, look out, the Jeep’s gonna hit that big rock!”
Jeep: “What rock?”
What a beautiful work sight!!!!
A really interesting video. Thanks
Great video thank you!
Poor car. I'd love to be born into these 4wd west coast families like you guys
A couple max tracks would really help hehe
Gives the term
Full Pull
A whole new meaning
Nice recovery. Safely done.
That is one hell of a pull. I had wondered if adding a Kinetic rope would be beneficial, so it was educational to see that you chose to use one. In retrospect, the frequent near stall load conditions on the winch should have served as a reminder to insert a snatch block to double-up the line
We're 10' short.......meh we have enough shackles to make it up 🤣 Nice job to all involved with operation 👌
Great job! Nice and safe!
that's what we try for every time!
The King 😎
Nice job. Long pull.
Great job, keeping the backcountry clean, and just as important you didn't add any more scratches LOL
Solid work, hope the driver and passengers weren't hurt too seriously.
The winch motor sounds like it is on the last days of living.
If it was a Warn winch, they are generally rebuildable
@@gregparrott (Sounds more like a WORN winch to me...) :P
Nahhhh it just needed a break. She was workin Hard.
Beautiful country
Hey look at all those little rocks down there... wait thats an xterra not a rock!?
Nice job everyone!
Fantastic recovery and great video as always all the the gear got used out of everyone's rigs on that pull poor worm gear need to call in its 300.000 mile change out.
Lots of skill and lots of knowledge of the physics in play, and the safe use of the gear. I usually wouldn't use a Kendrick rope as part of a winch system, but in this situation it appeared to work well.
You do need to be extra careful with kinetics in line with winch rigging, but it worked awesome on this one.
As an xterra owner, that hurt me to watch. Glad everyone was OK.
That Ole boy went to the end of trail and beyond. I've seen that trail from Santa fe peak but never ran it.
yeah the trail stops way back where we were at.
Saludos desde Chile amigos..
I was wondering the other day why I never see Xterra’s in overlanding videos. I watch two of yours in a row and both had Xterras. Maybe that answers my questions.
Great recovery. I’m guess by the way you all operate that there are some military backgrounds involved.
Great job
Awesome recovery, I hope the driver got out ok. You will have to let the viewers know what happened.
Driver was actually ok, came back up with us for the recovery.
Id LOVE to come out there to go Jeepin. Looks Absoulty Amazing and Beautiful...It Truly is Gods Counrty. Happy Jeepin from Butler Pennsylvania The Birth Place of the Jeep. Remeber the XJ is the Best J and Wranglers are For Cheerleaders.
RIP fellow Xterra
I had to pull a 500 ft winch up mtn to recover a boat n trailer off glenn highway here in alaska .I was dang near muscle failure by time i was done resigning the extensions lol
Always interesting to watch how these recoveries are rigged. Another great recovery.
this was certainly one of the most complicated of the year here. there's been probably 3 in total now about this difficult.
Interesting video. While unlikely to work, was a check done to see if the engine could be fired up long enough to try and drive it out of the rocks?
Battery ejected itself and the oil pan was punctured
Did people survive that fall? That shelf looked really sketchy!! Great job.
indeed they did! they were back onsite with us for the recovery.
What a job!! That was a lot of work. Did that winch survive or was it toast?
We're not sure yet, waiting for owner to check it out.
Y'all were lucky it was still rolling on 4 after that rollover 👍🏻. 🇺🇸😎
We had to seat the beads on driver side but yep it rolled with ease for sure
If you keep winch extensions in climbing rope bag, it pays out super easy. Some people use electrical extension cord reels
What kind of mistake did we do to let let this happen ?
You guys could do with a milwaukee sds battery drill and an impact gun. You could drill holes in the rock and set anchors to move them out of the way of vehicles like when you were fighting the rocks around the 16:27 mark
extremely interesting suggestion there... i like that.
Them seem like a good set of wheels and tires
What type of radios are you using to communicate with everyone?
Ham radio
On this op we were using our business band channels though
wheres the go pro footage,,how has it still got wheels,,strait.?.
Was the drive down as much fun as going up?
relatively uneventful.
A man and his dog died on Warden Gulch 5 years ago when their FJ Cruiser rolled off the road. They were very lucky to survive.
Oh my!!
Starting in 2017, certain models of the F-250/350 offer a power take off as an option. This would be WONDERFUL for a hydraulic winch. Hydraulic winches can provide much more horsepower, capable of faster pulls and heavier loads. I think for 2017, this option was only offered on duallys. But they may now be available as an option on Single-Rear Wheel (SRW) Superduty's.
Hell Ford had a PTO on there transmissions back in the 70"s for winches, I know cause my late uncle had one on his pickup.
@@icicle145 Nice. But I was told that on the new transmission, the PTO can operate while the vehicle is driving, whereas with earlier versions, the drive function of the transmission was disengaged for PTO use. Concurrently operating both enables hydraulics use on snowplows and would expedite a self recovery.
wow
After seeing the note / caption about the kinetic rope , I knew that I needed to comment on the slingshot effects it had on the vehicle , good thing it was already totally destroyed
whats the difference of being all slow over the rock as to not brake something then moments later taking a 2x6 and a metal pipe to the sheetmetal. Its already a complete wright off.
It's not that we were trying to go slow it's that's all a faster we could go
Unbelievable recovery. Did the people inside the Xtra survive. You guys did an encredable job.
Yep they were fine! Owner was onsite with us during the recovery.
@@JustinKingOffroad where did they fall from? any idea what caused the vehicle to go over the edge?
I bet you slept
@@mtnbound2764 just off the little shelf road we walked up. I'm not sure why they drove up there. It's barely an atv trail up that point.
@@JustinKingOffroad Possibly just unaware of their suroundings and the condition/size of the trail they decided to go up, then decided "i'll keep going because backing up seems iffy"
That worm gear was going long before this pull “Great Job”
Would winching a bolder out of the way be realistic or not ?
those are way heavier than they look. not worth the effort when the vehicle is already totaled.
Why was it necessary to air down, looked like a fairly normal gravel road?
The climb up though the trees wasn't totally videoed, but there was some technical spots, and airing down keeps you from popping tires and bouncing teeth out of your head lol
Who makes the green soft shackles?
Mine are gator jaw
How did the Xterra get out? Did you pull it down or did you leave it and the owner came back with a trailer?
we flat towed it to the county road for a wrecker to pickup.
@@JustinKingOffroad nice work
How do you bring it down the mountain then ? Somebody brought a trailer to put the car on ?
Drag it out by force
Cool area gotta check out that trail. Won't be going up that road it looks like a dead-end anyway.
from where we were winching is technically the end of the trail anyway, going beyond that is "off trail" per colorado standards.
@@JustinKingOffroad good to know thanks Justin !
Is it totaled? /s
oh yea lol!
@27:00 wouldn't it be easier to move the rock with the 6~8 people standing there?
Absolutely not
did the owner's survive that?
Yes they were on site with us during the recovery
hi justin
I know that you have to cope with the equipment you have
so this shouldn't be an insult but just a question.
have you ever thought of taking a tractor with a forestry winch with you?
because in my area if you get stuck somewhere you go to the next farmer and ask for a short pull.
Most of them are also lumberjacks and are therefore also equipped with forestry winches for their tractors, not something like on your Jepps but commercially used forestry winches with 10,000 - 22,000 pounds of pulling force and 150 - 400 feet of rope is nothing unusual.
Well that sounds nice it's really impractical for us to have something like that. but it sure would make quick work of it. Somebody has to store it somebody has to have a trailer for it somebody has to maintain it and I just don't see that happening.
12k foot elevation? Darn that’s a massive workout!
It's hard on you for sure
Man that was a work out
I slept really good that night
this isnt going anywhere wish had dollar every time i heard that, famous last words
I'm interested in what type of winch that was that did the majority of the distance
it is a Warn 16.5 ti
@@JustinKingOffroad What battery in the truck? Sounded like that winch was bogging down pretty badly.
Is it a Warn winch, or a worn winch. It got r done either way. Thanks for the video. Interesting.
@@loveistheanswer8137 it's a worn out warn now!
pretty sure it still runs !
Was the 16.5k electric or hydraulic? That seemed like a ton of constant run time on the winch for it being electric. Are hydraulic winches something you or the group tend to stay away from?
it was electric. hydraulic winches are just not as common on vehicles, most of the power steering pumps are not up to the task to run a winch. and most vehicles don't have a PTO on the transmission to run a winch like they want to be run.
I was wondering about a PTO? Are PTO’S gone with old WW2 type Jeep’s?
there are very few modern vehicles with PTO. some of the newer ford superduty trucks have them, but they are not easy to setup for offroading.
Ed Shelden you could put one on a CJ up to 1971 off the back of the transfer case. There were some Dana 20 PTOs that ran off the bottom of the pan.
Some truck transmissions still a PTO access port, you can run a hydraulic off of them, like tow trucks do.
I have a PTO winch on my 66' unimog. It's mechanically driven. Hydraulic winches are more controllable. Ideally you'd have a PTO power a hydraulic pump that runs a winch etc.
A set of pry bars would help moving some of the rocks out of the way. Or ast least move smaller rocks to help "ramp"over the bigger ones.
part out? qwq
Great story. Some of the narration was very good. This video is too long and needs better editing . The time laps was good. A real map inserted into the video would give the viewer a prospective of the location.
on my personal videos they are long on purpose. you can always fast forward through. the official org videos are much shorter.
😎👍
Obviously you replaced the wheels and tires ???
Nope. Aired up the driver side and pulled it out!
@@JustinKingOffroad pretty amazing
What was the back story?
Just went too far and tried to turn around. Rolled it.
@@JustinKingOffroad thx
WHY NOT MOVE THE ROCKS WITH THE WINCHES FIRST??? AT 28:19
That’s why I like my hydraulic winches. That’s a mighty long pull for electric
not many hydraulic winches can run off a modern vehicle's power steering pump and actually pull with any speed. i've been looking into this and just can't find one.
Justin King I am into old and slow off road vehicles, sold my 1980 Unimog and working on restoring a 1991 now.
@Justin King Look for an old army truck that has a PTO winch in the front bumper. If you get lucky you can find one with a winch behind the cab as well. The PTOs have a separate hydraulic pump just like a wrecker and can pull like hell as long there is diesel in the tank. Sometimes old school is the best school. Bonus, you can wrap a lot more cable around the drums on those winches. Parts are still available new old stock.
Should have just used a Yankum. Just kidding. Great recovery
What year is the Xterra? I need an engine for my 2006’
It looks pretty late-model for a 2nd gen. Probably 12-15.
Me would think that engine might have a few issues.... Just saying...
You never did tell us what happened, you also mentioned not damaging the Tundra, where did the Tundra fit into the recovery. Putting a dynamic rope into the winch rigging created uncontrolled movements of the recovered vehicle, this seems very dangerous.
basically they went too far and tried to turn around, rolled it. the trail officially ends where we were all staged. running a synthetic rope in line with a winch rope is indeed dangerous, but really helps store the energy from the winch and take some of the load off of it as the vehicle slams against rocks. we stayed well within the operating limits of the gear, and would not normally do this with a vehicle that wasn't this severely damaged. when you do run kinetics in line with winch line, you gotta keep everyone extra clear of the rig, which we did.
Sounds like once you busted out the weed whacker, this recovery went a lot quicker....
That was once a really nice X. Looks more like a Jeep now that it's all fuglied up :)
Did that thing have gun shots in it
it did indeed! people are dicks.
Is there a reason you are wearing hi-zi vest way way far away from traffic ? Does the synthetic line stretch very much, I know steel cable stretches. ? I sure hope no one was in that Xterra when it made that escape for freedom ! I may be asking what may seem dumb questions, but we don’t see much off- road recovery like you’re doing. Thanks for the videos it entertained me the last few weeks, please keep making them
not dumb questions at all!! We wear hi-viz so everyone is easily distinguishable as to where they are on operations. the vehicle owners were onsite without hi-viz and they were honestly hard to see 150 yards away. their clothing blended in with the rocks. especially through the windshield of the truck (I was running the winch). there was a person in the vehicle when it rolled, and they were ok. had to walk out for help.
@@JustinKingOffroad I'd like to hear more about long it took them to walk for help. I know your channel isn't about the backstory for some of these recoveries but sometimes it would be good to know for reference. Personally, I always bring enough gear/food/water to keep me going for at least 3 days in case I need to hike out of the backcountry.
@@PNWOverland generally speaking we don't have that information but this is a pretty short trail so I'd say three miles or less to find somebody to drive them into town
38:07 wow how picturesque that sure isn't Park Ave NY city....
Wheres your static safety line? Your main line breaks then what? You lose your recovery back down the hill and possibly personnel.
vehicle already totaled, and we keep people well clear of the rig during pulls. we were well inside the operating limits of the line but had it failed, it wouldn't have mattered.
Love how there is always a big “hole” (no people) on the axis of the tow line. Obviously not your first rodeo.
indeed
Bet the x still runs , ha , they are tough rigs
Craigslist: "Used Exterra, only driven on Sunday, garaged. Few door dings from the supermarket"
LOL that's a good one right there.
You forgot "good tires, custom roof work, no flood damage"
“No low-balling, I know what I have.”
What were they mining back there??
we believe it was gold and silver based on the quartz that was mixed in with the scree all over.
Acupulco Gold and some Panama Red
@@carmineredd1198 those strains would be nice again
@@wesleymadsen4357 skunk No.1 , Afghan Blonde, Colombian Pale , Hawaiian Sunshine , where have all my old friends gone ?
Lots of silver up in that area.
Just needs a new windshield, maybe fix the tail light and some touch up paint.
To be honest, I've seen people drive cars in worse shape. Yes, worse shape than that. A pickup with most of the cab cut off, missing doors, a cracked up dash, caved in hood, missing a front fender, the list goes on for awhile. I wish it was the only one but I've seen several.
I hear ya but I bet their car payment is lower than my new Jeep payment!
Why not leave it there and just take pictures for the insurance company?
@@okfuskee Why not, there are wrecked cars all over in remote areas?
Looks to me like you guys aren't to careful about scratching the poor car!! :-)
I don't think it's going to buff right out.