Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery - Valentines Day Froze Down Durango
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- A little over a week ago a Durango got stuck on a un-maintained forest road just north of Red Feather Lakes, Colorado. After spending the night in the car they were evac'd by Larimer County Search and Rescue, and referred to us for the recovery.
After playing the weather forecast, today was the best day of the week for not only volunteer response, but also daytime temperatures to be working in the snow.
the initial pull showed us just how frozen down the vehicle was to the snow and ice after having ran for over 12 hours when it got stuck. we broke the suction with a pair of high lift jacks, and rigged a 2:1 reduction back to the tree to take the load off the Power Wagon doing the winching. The first pull attempt totally stopped the winch and the battery warning came on.
You might see that safe-xtract X-lock in the video... that thing is super cool! Used to shorten winch line and keep the power wagon rope on the last roll for maximum pulling power.
A little bit of snow bashing involved getting to and from this one with the wind howling up there, but it was a fun and relatively easy operation.
I don't think it made it into the video, but we rated this a 2.5 out of 10 for complexity based on other ops.
Until the next one... Thanks for watching! - Авто та транспорт
If you guys are doing this as volunteer work , you all are saving some people some big bucks and i hope they give you tips or dinners or something. It took me about 5 or 6 videos to figure out it is volunteer work...lol. It's good to know that good guys are still out there.
100% volunteer
I’m commenting on your video as you guys are towing my buddy’s Tacoma and my tundra out of some maze of trails near rampart range. You guys are amazing at what you do and much less doing it for no $ just your kindness and love for the “sport” so to speak.
I will pass along the message and kind words!!
That’s some deep, sticky snow. So fun to watch and beautiful area.
Thanks for taking us along ..Great job and the JL got to go play in the snow!
Thanks for the video!
Great work out there. Love the videos
Incredible work!
Great video thank you!
yea dude! was missing these types of videos!
Good job by the crew! It was really drifting that day, wasn't it? Happy to see you and the team doing what you do so well.
Great vid you guys
Great teamwork as always
Fun fun. Great video Justin 👍
Nice work.
Good fun. Thanks from up here in British Columbia.
thanks for watching! you follow pirate jeep? i love their snow bashing videos up there!
Justin King, not heard of them but I will track them down now.
Looked a tad windy, but gorgeous blue sky, snow on the mountain, and a Jeep. Successful day.
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Wow! That was fun!
Lot of work but looks so much fun can barely call it work. 😋🇺🇸
That looks like it would be a fun job! thanks for sharing friend! stay safe out there! don't loose a finger!
it's the best non-paid job I've ever had! it's a ton of fun. we train pretty thoroughly too.
I feel the same about my YT channel 😂🙌🙌🙌 awesome stuff
This is awesome! I'm glad I found this channel, I live in Creede (Southwest CO) and have been looking into doing some sort of Rescue and Recovery around here.
there is a group in SW colorado about to go live with us, we will have a presence down there soon!
@@JustinKingOffroad That will be really awesome, will be looking forward to that!
Man id love to be a fly on the wall for some of these. The rigging tactics, and communication are top notch. Well played, once again!
we are trained by one of the best in the world (and i'm not joking). Matt Balazs with On Trail Training is one of the few I4WDTA guys in the world!
@@JustinKingOffroad thank you for the lead. might have to drag my team out there for some of that and an exploring trip sometime.
Lucky there hasn't been any "real snow" around the area. Looks like fun though! This winter has been a little disappointing!
Yall should take some of that de-icer you get for window washer stuff. Bet it would met the ice around the wheels pretty fast
Oh when the dingo whent sideways at 1820 I was like 😣. Yes I said dingo. 😂
I call my dango sometimes lol just picture it the way joe dirt says dang and you got it lol
That would be a day I would of put chains on my old 69 CJ. Nice work and beautiful day.
Vpower is good stuff
I haven't been out all winter. Not much snow this year. 😢
Great video as always! Looks like a lift and 37's are needed on both vehicles, otherwise you might have to start chaining up for those drift filled sections of trail.
the effort of chaining up today would have saved some wear and tear on the jeep for the 2 drifts it needed it.
Your Jepp does better....
A 2.5" lift and 37" tires on the power wagon would be Awesome
Great recovery. I love these types of videos. One thing though is that one of you had cotton blue jeans on. They are the worst item to wear in cold and snow. They get wet and they freeze and so do you. I don't know what the others had on though.
We all have lots of spare items with us for snow operations, but it was a very warm day as the sun hit solar noon. On the real cold ones we all wear proper winter gear lol!
Yep, send the Ram in first, because "Power Wagon don't care!" :D Well... mostly. haha
Would the traction boards have helped in some of the stuck situations?
we tried off video, couldn't climb back onto them very well once the tires dug into the snow and made an ice trough.
Should be some kind of sleds that would fit under each wheel for towing out?
Newbie Question - I heard the Power Wagon's in 4-high unlocked, is that what you do in the JL? Assuming skid control all the way off as well? Any second thoughts on the 4-banger vs. 3.6?
i usually run the jeep in low range just because of the lack of horsepower. 4 banger does quite well especially at altitude. i'm used to turbo lag so i know how to anticipate it.
This looks Like it was a fun trip, maybe not so for the dodge guy, But damn nice place to be! Where was this, I'd like to come explore it sometime, I live out east of Colo Springs. Damn I love YOUR TRAVELS! So Justin, where do you guys get all your goodies from " tools" n such, the items for the High Lift jacks? Hey sometime could you guys do a video on YOUR GEAR for ALL of IS FANS!! PLEASE!!! : ) THANKS FOR SHARING THIS ONE< LOVED IT! Wish I was there!! U all BE SAFE!!
this was north of red feather lakes, co. most of the gear is all just ordered online from various offroad shops.
oh the durango wasn't quite the mound of snow i thought it would be.
i figured it would be buried too!
@@JustinKingOffroad ah we were wrong in a good way but i've never seen one froze in like that I am lucky
Justin, what tires do you suggest for living out there and doing this stuff? I need new 37"s on my JK and I am hoping for a transfer with my Federal Job back to Denver. Was thinking K02's but they seem they wouldn't do that good for this type of recovery, and I’m worried about muds not doing well on ice and plowed roads.
there is no perfect tire unfortunately. really well siped all terrains do good in the snow. i'm looking at falken wildpeak at3w for the power wagon in a 35 inch. it's a near true to size 34.8 overall per the specs.
If you're going 37s, Milestar Patagonia just because of the soft compound they seem to do the best when it comes to snow and ice. They also don't eject super well, which is bad for mud but great for snow, a lot like a Goodyear Duratrac.
Good video, Justin! Interesting to watch you working that steering wheel and eventually getting through those drifts. I thought for sure you were hopelessly stuck a few times, there. Curious about where your team was jacking on the Durango using the Hi-Lift. It looked like in one shot, y'all were jacking on the rear fenderwell? In the other, it appears some sort of sling was used on the front wheel/tire? Thanks for posting!
that board was just there to protect the panel of the vehicle, both instances there were hooks on the wheel to lift it up. hi-lift jacks are amazing tools!
@@JustinKingOffroad Thanks Justin. Been thinking about getting a Hi-Lift for my F150, but was unsure what points I could lift from. I need to investigate this further.
What is the purpose of the X-Lock? I've never seen such a device (mind you, I also don't winch...I use a kinetic rope on recoveries). What I'm guessing, is that it's so you can get as much line out of the winch as possible, in order to increase the pulling power?
it serves a few purposes, but the one that I use the most is shortening winch rope so you can get to the last wrap on your drum (which is where the max pulling force is). each wrap looses 10% ish of winch rating, which makes a big difference in operations.
Very interesting. I live in Las Cruces, NM where snow comes once every 20 years or so (over 2" anyway). Nice to see how you did it. My questions: 1. How low do you airdown? 2. When snow gets that deep, what's the best way to avoid getting stuck? (besides staying home).
in noco we have wind blown ice crusted nasty snow that once you fall through it's extremely difficult to go anywhere. you're being held in place by ice. but i usually run 10 if i'm not chaining up, and if i am, then maybe closer to 15-20. otherwise the tire will mold around the chains and basically not render them effective. there's not really a good technique to not getting stuck. if you're gonna get stuck, you're gonna get stuck.
@@JustinKingOffroad I've had the "pleasure" of driving in snow like that in the Lincoln National Forest in the Sacramento Mtns. of New Mexico. Just like the snow you and your friends were driving through, it was very tough to keep going and once you got stuck you were STUCK! Our local 4x4 club went on a weekend outing to enjoy the snow since we seldom have it in Las Cruces. We had fun but even with almost 30 4x4 vehicles almost all of us got stuck several times. We all learned a lot about winching, towing, and helping others. Hot chocolate was the highlight of the afternoon. The best vehicles were Chevy Colorado's with their winches. Very capable vehicles in the snow. Most of us are used to driving in sand & rock but not much on snow. Thanks for your video, it really helps me to understand what four wheeling in CO will be like if I ever move back. I was born and raised in CO, but after college I moved to other places.
What would you say was the hardest recovery/mission to date and why?
hardest one i've personally been on was the radical hill rollover in 2017. it was exhausting at 12,000 feet all day exerting yourself. we had to rebuild the suspension on that wreck to get it out. hardest one the org has done is probably the "iron chest fatal rollover" cause that was 3 days of recovery to get out with multiple teams.
@@JustinKingOffroad wow three days? Damn. Want anyone you folks knew was it? When I was in SAR (17 yrs) I had a SAR for a school buddy. So yeah we all do it for the love of it. THANK YOU !!
At 12:31, what is that crab looking thing you're tying into the dyneema? Did you say x-lock? i cant find it anywhere on the web.
yes sir it is an amazing piece of equipment with a bunch of uses. info here: www.safe-xtract.com/tutorials/x-lock-uses/
A delivery coming to your house you mean valentines day jeep parts becouse you love your jeep
hahaha i wish! it was actually customer hardware
What radios do you guys use? VHF? CB? Just saw one of your guys stepping over the pull line...
Mostly ham radio, but some times cb car to car.
the x lok you used on the rope where did you get it and the name of it thanks wally
it is made by safe x-tract, and it's called a X-lock
hank you for speedy reply
If you ever need help, I am just in Cheyenne and can come help at any time.
Thanks for the great video. Just one question. I always thought and heard that it is better to put chains on the front than the rear. This way you pull the front up onto the snow. Instead of pushing the front down deeper. Any thoughts?
situation dependent for sure, front is great for going uphill, but rear is great for going downhill so the rear end doesn't come around. all 4 is the best of both. one of my reasons i'm not interested in 37s is i'm required to run tire chains for offroad recovery. i'll loose my clearance for the chains stepping up a tire size.
@@JustinKingOffroad Thank you for the reply. I was referring to the Durango. I did not see a steep grade there. I saw more of a problem of going than stopping. Of course video never shows true grade. I do agree thou street driving and or steep down hill terrain rears are better. And as you said all 4 are best. That is why I have a set for all 4.
What kind of tires do you run? And how can some volunteer for what you do?
on the jeep I have toyo open country MTRs which do pretty decent in the snow. on the truck i'm about to purchase falken wildpeak at3w. you can sign up at co4x4rnr.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=60&club_id=10369 we are a pay to play organization which covers things like the state credentials, back ground checks, training etc. it's a ton of fun!
I head over your radio that one guy was running 4H-Unlocked. Wouldn't front and rear lockers help in the snow as long as you aren't making any really sharp turns?
depends on the situation but mostly yes. i was locked front and rear on the jeep. as long as you don't make contact with the dirt even sharp turns aren't a big deal.
what kind of maps do you use on your ipad? mvum?
gaia GPS application with the premium overlays. it's very handy.
Apart from the smirking laughs and the terrible lingo (“go go juice” really?) it’s a lovely report!
Hi Justin. Another awesome video! What model of tires do you use on your Jeep, and what are your overall thoughts of their performance in the snow? Thanks!
they are toyo open country MTRs, they do ok... mud tires are not designed for snow, but they rip and grip when the temps warm up and the snow become sticky. when it's super dry and frozen still like that nasty sugar powder, nothing really does well in that.
@@JustinKingOffroad Thanks!
Justin, I have been binging your videos. I was in contact with C4X4R&R before Covid hit. I’m looking to ride along once before joining. I heard where you live in another video, I am in Windsor. When the opportunity arises, let me know. Thanks. Erik
we are on pause right now for public response until this calms down a bit... i'm pushing to get us back responding to calls. there's quite a few of us in noco, so the opportunity will arise soon!
@@JustinKingOffroad Thanks for the response. I have been working on the XJ, nothing like your rig. What's the best way to stay in touch, for when the opportunity arises?
So how are you liking the 4 cylinder in the JL? Seems to have enough power. I'm still amazed it has as much torque as it does.
It is very impressive. I was testing a mishimoto air intake and it really wakes up the low end torque.
Haven’t been here in awhile Did you ever get that howl resoloved? I can’t remember if you heard it on the way home from the purchase or during/after first 4WD
Thanx from the left coast near Krapramento, California the Krapital
the jeep still makes that noise in 4x4. dealership said not to worry about it, so i guess i won't lol!
Justin King keep it documented and if synthetic lubricants are ok with warranty I’d put that in front (at least) differential and transfer case and maybe the other 2 unmentioned
My parents bought a brand new 68 Opel station wagon with 1.5 & 4 sp every service at dealer we said right rear leaking every time yeah repaired I inherited it and always check/fill differential I ran it down it fried we pulled it and found seal in backwards long off warranty we brought it to dealerships attention they said off warranty we showed them non-repair orders they said bring it on in we delivered the 3rd member
👍👍👍😮😮😮
What radios do you have in your rig for communications?
ham radios and cb.
Justin King What ham radios do you run? de KN4BKS
I have a Kenwood D710a in the Jeep and D710g in the truck, plus a few kinds of hand held. Wanted a real TNC in the rigs just in case.
Justin King I am looking at a Yaesu FT-857 for my ‘14 JKU to go along with my HT and CB. Always nice to have a radio that get out to the world when you are in the back country.
You need some milstar Patagonia tires
there is A LOT better tire out there than milestars.
Can you do a short video talking about what you where doing at the 9:30 mark
Great rescue, one question, why didn't you put the chains on the front wheels of the Durango? Looked like it was four wheel drive?
it was open diff so it really didn't matter, typically though when you don't know your clearances the rear are safer. and when going uphill the weight shifts to the rear anyway.
@@JustinKingOffroad Thanks, that was some beautiful scenery.
What is the name and who makes that inline rope x block? Love the videos keep it up
It's made by safe extract, and it's called the x lock. They can be picked up from ARE Off-road I believe (for the public that is). They are neat!
Love the snow runs, getting stuck, not so much lol. Is the x-lox available outside of a kit? Did some digging and found it, will look some more.
it is available via ASR offroad, www.asroffroad.com/sx-20000h-x-lock-20-000-lb-wll/
How do I get on your team I live in Colorado springs
we are a pay to play organization, it's $100/yr and that covers the multi state background check, and gets you access to heavily discounted training from our I4WDTA trainer, and tons of equipment discounts from offroad gear suppliers etc. you get way more in return for the $100 spent. co4x4rnr.clubexpress.com/content.aspx?page_id=60&club_id=10369
Where is that located exactly? Going to be out that way next week on vacation and doing some snow wheeling
the road to lost lake just north of red feather
@@JustinKingOffroad what is the road #'s and or name? Coming from Alabama
it's 235 located at 40.850486, -105.521156 but do note the snow is DEEP right now.
Question: Why not have the guy in the Durango in reverse giving lite gas while winching? Truly want to know. Thanks.
It just sunk in super fast,
Thank you, I subscribed to your channel last year because of some of the crazy recovery's you go on, and to see how you address the situations. Having your camera with you on the recovery missions has been beneficial.
During that last drift, I wonder if it would have been easier to just drive on the grass on the side of the road.
that goes against staying the trail, but absolutely would have been, (but not nearly as fun lol!!)
@@JustinKingOffroad Understood. I thought that at that point you were just on a regular type road.
We were but still... Not supposed to.
What’s x lock thing?
It's used to shorten winch line when you need to pull more line out to get to the last wrap where winches are rated at their peak, and it can do other things like bridal lines to vehicles etc.
So yea, about them 37s you were still debating for big bertha....😎
Bigger tires get you into deeper trouble!
Justin King i guess I’m just more of a risk vs reward kind of a guy
@@JustinKingOffroad but is it not fun getting into big trouble?
joshua rewerts looks like Mike was having a grand ol time in his big Bertha on 37s
😬😬Jeep stuck
And don't even get me started on the push button ATV four-wheel drive crap lucky to get a couple weeks out of that before it breaks garbage
Never seen the metal x thing with the hole in it, that u guys used with the winch rope. What is the purpose? And awesome vids happy that I found this channel!
that is a X-Lock made by safe extract. it allows you to shorten your winch line but yet have it all pulled off the drum to get to the last wrap where all the rated pulling force is.
That is what I was thinking thanks
That is what I was thinking thanks
Was wishing you would have followed the Durango, I was curious to see how it did. You didn't film a couple other spots like pulling the Ram out. Awesome content, but definitely lots of room to improve. Hopefully more people get stuck because these are the coolest kinds of videos
i wanted to follow the durango but was not the team lead on this operation.
Power Wagon is the best off road truck by far.
@falchulk So what beats it.....? What has lockers front and rear, etc.?
Well your red Jeep needs a locker & tires evidently.
oh trust me that crusty nasty snow it didn't matter. all 4 were locked.
I don't get it, why don't you drive on the side of the road where the snow has blown away instead of driving thru the deep drifts?
if you're talking about the end clip, that isn't the road.
Shouldn’t you guys use some sort of dampeners just Incase when winching around trees?
We get that question a lot. It is completely unnecessary because synthetic rope fails linearly, there isn't a huge recoil zone. And the rigging around the tree is rigged well in excess of the loads put into it, and we know the safety margin of the equipment. Example, shackles we use rated to 12 ton, have a 5:1 failure. That's 120,000 pounds. It's not going to break with 24,000 pounds of winch force.
Justin King true, for me it’s less about the rope breaking as it is other things when mounting to a strangers car. Who knows if everything connected to the mounting point is secure. Seems like a little safety measure that could go a long way. I just use ankle weights after some close calls having to yank people with snatch ropes when the winch wouldn’t suffice.
i get your point but plenty of videos out there of dampeners becoming missiles when rigging fails. that's why we've all taken recovery classes from an I4WDTA certified trainer, and calculate our loads (obviously not on camera but maybe we should) and rig for an excess 25% safety margin. this way nothing should fail.
So what this shows me is the last video where you got stuck six times in the power wagon it was not the power wagon it was the driver and you should ask that guy in the power wagon you are following in this video for driving lessons
hahahaha! i framed out the power wagon last time, nothing you can do about that. this time I fully admit i took my foot off the gas and shouldn't have, lost my momentum on a uphill snow drift.
He got stuck today too after this one was complete! They went to play in the snow drifts and got big time stuck haha!!
or, you know, snow conditions were completely different lol. Last time it was bottoming out. no driver mod can change that.
And those Powerwagons are lifted, I believe Justin's is stock...
@@richfarfugnuven6308 and on 37s.
What are you thoughts on the Diesel 3.0 JL?
i'm actually going to be at the FCA dealer next week (i hope anyway) and am hoping he has one on the lot, I want to drive it.
@@JustinKingOffroad Nice! Looks like it would give the JL some added torque that diesels normally due. I heard it's not all the way the same as the ram ecodiesel 3.0's, but I imagine for crawling it would come in handy. It would be pretty cool if you did a small segment while driving one, if given the chance, and give us your insight. Thanks for the reply, love your vids, keep up the good work and keep them coming!
@@JustinKingOffroad Please make a video about it, I'd love to have your opinion on it. I feel like you'd have a valuable opinion because you've driven the other two options!
Got back from the dealer and unfortunately he didn't have any diesel wranglers on the lot. currently can't get one allocated to inventory unless it's a customer order. but come spring he should be able to.
@@JustinKingOffroad Ahh well, just a couple months then. Thanks for giving us an update!
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Who gives a thumbs down to this??
No movement because its a turd lol.
Just jokes 👍
Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians, if you know what I mean!
My Civic has more aggressive tire than that Durango
It's a nice jeep but let me know how all that computer four-wheel-drive crap works in 10 years or how many times you had to fix it why do these Automotive designers think all this push button crap is any good nothing's going to last longer than something made mechanical honestly these new vehicles or just a waste of money and going to be a money pit forever...
Seriously, I don’t trust the electric controls on everything these days. My wife’s Tahoe likes to stick in low range and it’s not fun. My old ford with mechanical controls always works flawlessly.
Maybe I'm confused but I'm fairly sure the JK (no buttons in mine) and JL have mechanical 4WD linkage with a lever; no buttons.