Hotel Mario Beta Version - Part 3: Hotel 4 & 5 Differences + CREEPY CUTSCENES!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- In this video, I compare Hotels 4 & 5 of the Beta version of Hotel Mario for CDi with the Retail release! These hotels feature some creepy cutscene differences!!
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I've now noticed that in retail when Luigi says "Look, Wendy's hotel!" it sounds like the audio was spliced together, which we now know it was.
These guys were way ahead of their time, they were doing YTP before it was cool.
they beat us to the sentence mixing :(
So thankful this prototype landed in the hands of someone willing to preserve the contents of it 🙏We really appreciate your efforts
For real. I hate when snobby collectors hoard games that are unreleased. It's amazing seeing people like him do stuff like this.
@@gorfelbt those people should be publicly shamed
true, i hate gatekeeppres
17:49 Mario OCs, do not steal
Lol
goth mario goth mario
17:48 This of all things made me realize that the animation of them walking was reused from the intro (both in retail and beta versions) so that's why the perspective is so wonky
Seeing a CD-I prototype makes me think that there's probably a Zelda CD-I prototype out there.
imagine there’s a third morshu line
@@drezz8k thatd be unreal
@@drezz8kOh no, his sentence-mixing will be upgrade a lot O_O
@@drezz8k I would shit myself
I said something similar on one of the other videos. Its quite likely there is unused zelda cutscenes and audio out there
17:49 New official Mario recolors just dropped 🔥
7:52 10:15
Different "Hurry!" delivery. Also, just noticed that door lacks the appearing sequence in the Beta. This was probably intentional but later on they realised the animation was off, so they played backwards the frames when it disappears in retail version.
(While one of them was recycled when player is running out of time during the stages if that's the case in the beta.)
i don't know much but doesn't Mario say "gotta be quick !" ?
@@famaki8072it depends on the level, and i think Hotel 8 uses it
those clouds look much creepier in the beta with their huge smiles, toning them down was the right call.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the clouds different smiles between the beta and the retail.
@@thardump859 Also you can see on 4:29 floor glitching. Idk if it was intentional or error during recording.
All these music-free dialogue rips will be perfect for people making YTPs. So glad this prototype was picked up by someone interested in preserving and sharing it!
We're reaching a Poop Renaissance
Can't believe we have that "It's been one of those days..." line without the music. One of the funniest lines in all the cutscenes tbh.
17:48 my favorite characters in the franchise, with Reigi & Blario
ORIGINAL OC! DONT STEAL!
I love Reigi and Blario!!!!!
DARK LUIGI???
Mario and Luigi turned Into Colors off. 😧
Mario and Luigi turned into Colors off?! 😧
16:38
Oh no, the Mario bros demolished King Harkinian‘s castle.
Possibly. Lol.
16:40 haha, after Mario says "spooooky" some spooky stuff happens
One detail with the beta cutscenes you didn’t mention is that the timing of the vocals are different. You can see it best in the part where the Mario bros are waiting to catch peach, in retail after Mario says “Get ready to catch her” there’s a small pause inbetween that and when Luigi replies. Meanwhile in the beta Luigi responds as soon as Mario stops talking
I'm guessing that in the retail, they added pauses to the animation to space out the lines.
Another example: in the retail outro to Ludwig's castle, it says "spooky" after the castle crumble, whereas in the beta it is said as soon as the castle starts crumbling. The devs probably didn't want the crumbling sounds and the "spooky" to overlap.
i feel like this is more a hardware issue rather than the devs intentionally adding pauses
if the devs did add pauses, why did they make them last for so long?
@@Ayanbadin Well then, why aren't these pauses present in the beta?
@@PaperMarioParty08 im assuming due to more content added to the game on the retail version, causing it to slow down a lot and to take frequent pauses when rendering cutscenes
(although im not saying this is the real reason, just my own theory)
It’s funny to see the cutscenes change from crystal clean audio of the actors voices, and then cut back immediately to a stereo system test (LEFT, RIGHT).
Although I can’t think of a reason as to why they replaced the voices unless they didn’t have them ready at the time the beta was compiled
Given how the Stereo Test occurs only in Mid-Hotel cutscenes, it can be assumed that piggybank one is going to have it as well.
Part of me thinks they made the the intro and transition cutscenes first. They probably knew what sort of secrets they wanted to make, but didn't know how those secrets would be implemented in-universe. They likely knew they wanted to prevent Blackouts or Clouds or Boos from meddling with play, but they didn't have the ideas of unplugging a powerhog set of toasters, pressing a button to activate a fan, or using Ghost Repellent (or Ghost Cologne in the final game.)
To me, it feels like mid-level cutscenes fail to load their audio due to being loaded mid-level. The routine may be skipping something that the intro and outro do. Feels like something that can happen, but it may also be some hopium talking.
When Halfway into the wendys hotel cutscene, the colors of mario and Luigi's shirts and overalls just say "yeah, screw this game. " and change colors.
They kinda look like the one episode of the Mario 3 cartoon where they’re covered in red and blue paint
@@AkiraLionPilot Also reminds me of the "Rock TV" episode of the Super Mario World cartoon, where in one shot we see Mario wearing green, and Luigi wearing red
@@Evenifindoingidieinonehour yeah, they collided with each other so hard they switched colors lol
17:49 How fitting that when they exit the spooky castle they become spooky themselves
17:40 Real Creepy Pasta.
YES CLEAN AUDIO OF "its been one of those days"
Little does Ludwig realize that King Harkinian has been living in that castle for years
Yeah, people like to use that particular hotel as the basis of King Harkinian's castle, simply because it looks like a castle.
@@Cyberbrickmaster1986 that and the fact they're both CDI games based on Nintendo IPs
@@TheVideoMaker1999And the animation of the castle being destroyed
@@MsAmber82 Spoooky!
@@Cyberbrickmaster1986 King: (sees the ruined castle) OAH!
I'm pretty sure the "Hurry!" at 7:53 and 10:15 are different takes, interesting!
It is. If it sounds familiar, then it's because it was used for when the player is running out of time on certain stages.
I think it's the same audio but looks like the beta is slowed down compared to the retail one, that's more sped up. I don't think there's a reason to do a different take on such a short speech.
One thing I don't think was mentioned yet is the timing on all the cutscenes is way faster than the retail version, I assume so the animators can quickly see all the animations they did in the game and make sure they work without having to keep on watching through the properly timed spaces of the cutscenes.
It leads to funny things happening in the beta version like 17:42 making it look like Mario saying "spooky" caused the castle to break lol
I love Mario's classic "Left, right" line.
The cutscene to Wendy’s hotel looked like a ytp edit with the different colors. Also props to you for actually playing the entire game yourself in order to get the footage. I could imagine that’s not the easiest way to do it, but if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.
He did say in the beginning that the level select from retail isn't in the beta, so it's not like he had much of a choice.
10:04 finally, a clean version of this line
Still can't belive we got the clean vocals!
The Wendy's Hotel cutscene definitely looks cursed
17:48 more luigi setence mix resources 🤑
13:41 I didn’t even know that cutscene existed at all
In the early days of YTP, the community didn't know either...
Man it's so cool seeing this unfold as you learn about it too. Don't get me wrong, it's cool when a full prototype gets dumped and you can go online and pick through the assets, but it's overwhelming too. Having these bite sized nuggets of gameplay is so much fun! Probably more fun than the actual game lmao
Another possible reason for "Bowser's Ghost Cologne" is that, like every other US media property based on Mario from the Super Show to The Movie, they kept using the name Koopa instead of Bowser for some unknown reason, and were probably corrected later in development. Remember, they didn't say "It's from Bowser!" in the beta's opening sequence. Of course, I'm just speculating here.
Technically it was _King_ Koopa. Whenever his name was mentioned it was almost always fully like that.
17:42 spooky *castle falls apart*
17:43 the fact they said spooooky RIGHT as the castle crumbled made it even funnier for some reason
Mario: I think Ludwig is a Sith Lord.
Luigi: A Sith Lord?
Mario: He shot lightning at me with his hands.
I regret never bothering to look up the actual gameplay for this game because I've gone so many years without knowing Ludwig can use Sith Lightning. If only there was a Cutscene showing this off because I'm sure it would've been used in a lot of YTPs.
Seriously though, thank you for including footage of the final version of the game in these videos so we can have direct comparisons instead of you simply saying what's different.
a sith, lord??
New Luigi words!
Bro they turned into a 2007 deviant art of at 17:49
I never realized Peach was saying "Mario!" when she was yeeted out of that cave. I think that might be the only time in the entire game that Mario is referred to by name.
can't believe you'd forget
HOTEL MARIO
"Mario"
😔
The wider smile on the beta clouds is, as Mario might describe, spooooky...
Also, the original dialogue of Luigi saying "She's heading towards Wendy's hotel!" kinda makes it sound like this escapade has been of the princess' own accord.
The bat sprite being changed from grey to brown is most likely for visibility's sake. The stage is already predominantly grey so it would've made those bats incredibly difficult to see back then on a CRT. Even from your recordings, they are hard to spot.
Looking at the beta cutscenes, there seem to be no pauses inbetween most dialogues compared to the retail version (i.e. they seem to have added a lot of pauses inbetween dialogues for the retail version), so I already thought the cutscenes were a bit shorter anyway, and am a bit surprised that you only noticed the shorter runtime of the cutscene from beating Lemmy's hotel/entering Ludwig's hotel.
Speaking of which, because there's no pauses inbetween dialogues, it does make the animation of Mario turning his head to face Luigi after his "It's been one of those days" line a LOT smoother compared to the retail version. As it turns out, in the retail version, they added the pause _as Mario is about to turn his head_ instead of the frame before when he's done sweating; making the animation look choppy and awkward, like when you stop a video on the frame as one is about to sneeze or something.
Shocked you didn’t mention this, but the clouds that move in Hotel 4 have a wider smile in the beta version then in the retail version. I noticed that right away lmao.
beta cutscenes be like: LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT
I'm glad that you managed to acquire this piece of Mario history, really can't wait to be able to examine the unfinished beta code
6:16
Mario: *Enters the door*
Arby's! It's time for the meats!
Nah! Just joking! It's left-right time!
17:48 sudden creepypasta
Cologne makes more sense to be in a bathroom... and is probably maybe less dangerous to spray right in your face open mouthed?
i think it's kinda funny as well. Bowser has some brands of products in this game like bread and a ghost COLOGNE (funnier than a simple ghost repellent). Does he show up in the products' commercials too like DeDeDe in Kirby Right Back At Ya ?
17:42 why is this funny for me? 😭
So funny I changed to it.
castle that destroys itself on the word "spooky"
Spooky!
The difference in the cologne in the ghost hotel might actually have been because of a gameplay change and/or disconnect in design -- the dialogue Mario says in the retail version suggests that the effect of the cologne has to do with the doors disappearing ("maybe this will keep that lizard king from messing with the doors"), which doesn't make sense for something like "Ghost Repellent", which would instead suggest that the effect would make the ghosts stop trying to attack Mario.
The actual possible reasonings are as such:
1. The original effect _was_ actually to repel the ghost enemies, but this proved to be way too overpowered (I would assume, given how abundant they are), so it was changed later.
OR 2. The original effect was the same as the retail, but the description of Ghost Repellent was obviously too confusing to players when it had nothing to do with the ghost enemies, so they had it edited to Bowser's cologne instead.
Good points!
I was confused as to why the ghosts were still appearing in the Beta after I found the secret room but, upon repeating the process in the Retail game, I realized the cologne was meant to stop the doors from disappearing.
Ludwig's Hotel would've been MUCH easier if the ghost repellent actually worked though! haha
One thing I noticed is that Ludwig's boss uses the music from an earlier level. Makes me wonder if the music for that boss wasn't finalized for it to not be included.
17:49 Well that caught me off-guard
Pause at 17:51 and mario and luigi spawn in hell for 1 frame
I noticed the silly clouds have a slightly different appearance from beta to retail! at 1:31 you can see the retail cloud has a smaller mouth and large eyes towards the middle of its face. at 3:10 the mouth is much larger and the eyes are more towards the top of the face, the cloud itself might be a bit larger too!
Thanks for uploading all this, its so cool to see beta versions of games!! :D
You deserve the world. Literally I love how you chose to release it for everyone instead of gatekeeping it. Of course we will support you and your channel.
Hotel Mario: the lost levels
Seeing these cutscenes for beta of Hotel Mario is still crazy to me! I am glad that you are showing the differences and what hotel Mario development went
Even when you dump the ROM online, I'm still gonna finish up your series on it because a good collector who actually releases ROMs deserves the views.
15:16 The retail colors match the bat enemies from Super Mario World, maybe they were trying to match existing characters in a vague Hotel Mario sort of way.
it could have been changed from repellent to cologne so kids didn't spray raid on their face
I love seeing all the alternate cutscenes and assets. It really makes this prototype feel special.
17:50 Here’s a dark and f*cked up version of the Mario bros
Im still wondering how it even happened
welcome to my fcked up mind!!!
This seems off putting like we were never supposed to see this with it being harder and the audio in cutscenes
I have a question about the sixth hotel.
When you beat Ludwig's hotel, does it bring you back to the same level like you showed in the stage select at the end of the video, or is Wendy's Hotel playable in this build?
Can we expect a part 4?
I'm personally looking forward to seeing whether or not the "unused" music, heard in the latter half of the final game's hotel 5 ending cutscene, is present in full somewhere in this prototype. If it's not the music used in hotel 6, then I hope it's in the files somewhere.
If the "left right" is an audio channel test, it didn't work. Its in mono, both my headphones play the same sound.
Either the audio was compressed to mono in capture, or its not a channel test.
The beta footage of Hotel 4 reminds me of a certain infamous game journo who struggled with the tutorial for Cuphead so badly that he got ruthlessly mocked for it by the gaming community. I think I have an answer to what’s going on there, as you keep getting sent up two and down two when riding those elevators, at least until you reached the very top of the right side elevator.
I might think the left right audio may be a speaker test of sort to test the left and right speaker specifically or something idk
Either that or to test if the sound of the game actually correctly uses the different channels.
@@Outside998 yeah it could be that too
If this beta got found during ytp prime it would’ve been crazy
But I’m just glad this got found at all, thank you for preserving its contents and dumping the game soon!
The souless look of mario and luigis eyes. Basically their .exe before the .exe meme was invented.
pretty cool to hear that a redump member was able to get in touch
I think the change from “Ghost repelant” to “ghost cologne” was probably because Mario sprays it on his face. They probably didn’t want children to mimic this with real bug spray so they made it cologne instead.
Also, I think if you look at the retail version, when Mario sprays himself the bottle still has a red top like in the beta
Aight guys and gals, we're just one video close to getting a clean version of "Where there's smoke, they pinch back"
It was my very good pressure to help you out with some of the secrets! 😉 So it looks like you are going to be talking to Philips Interactive Media, or Fantasy Factory, I don’t know who you going to be talking to on social media but hope you have good luck. 👍
One thing I noticed was the clouds faces, they look different in both versions
Just when I thought you were done with the beta, you’re the gift that just keeps on giving!
Where there's smoke, they pinch back.
I already see new ytp material for the miscolored Mario bros
Mario and Luigi become tainted with the curse of LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT.
12:32 That seems to be the case with almost all of the cutscenes; the retail version has a lot of individual scenes linger longer than normal instead of cutting, while the beta version has these same scenes end a lot quicker. It's why the gaps between dialogue are much faster in the beta version, such as when Mario and Luigi are talking.
17:49 DUDE WHAT
15:00 Maybe they didn't want kids spraying themselves in the face with insect repellent.
They changed the text on the Spray Can because they accidently called "Bowser" "Koopa" which was always a Mic-Match of names back in the 90s.
I don't think so as that could have also originally been referencing the Koopa species/tribe, Bowser's last name, or the Koopalings as they were commonly referred to as the "Koopa Kids" at the time. In the beta version "Koopa" is written as a brand (offset in a corner in different font), whereas on the retail version "Bowser" is a part of the product name ("Bowser's Ghost Cologne"). I think that change was just incidental, and the real motive was more likely removing the word "dead"/"undead" because the ongoing moral panic about violence in video games was still constantly on the news at the time. Along with the rebranding, they also changed the top of the bottle to resemble a bottle of cologne rather than a generic spray, so clearly some thought went into the edit beyond just changing Koopa to Bowser.
All that said, I do prefer the beta version's cartoony text with its rounded perspective. The release version just slapped the text flat on the bottle.
17:49 Mario & Luigi's Dark World Forms
14:45 - Mario turned into a Goth Gal.
TBH, I kind of expected that the scrapped hotel wouldn't be there, since some of the dialog was changed to be 7 hotels instead of 8. But I still hope that at LEAST some of the tiles of the levels are still on the disc.
14:22 "Left Right Left Right Left Right Left Right"
This cutscene is scary
4:35
And the pacing in the beta was a little too quick with: “Get ready to catch her!”, “She’s not coming down!”, and “She’s up there!”.
17:50 Curious the color change that the Background has for a few moments, it reminds me a lot of the game "Bounce Tales" when it is about to fight a Boss
◜ヘ 🔴
I haven't heard that name in years.
10:14 When Mario says "Hurry" it is different compared to the final version, though something I thought to research into is that it is the exact same audio clip as when he tells you to hurry when the timer is running out when you're in a level.
This is so cool with all the differences and different title cards for the stages, and thanks for trying to preserve this beta, you rock! :D
I feel like the color palette glitch at hotel 5's cutscene was (this is just a theory)
because there was maybe an older cutscene that had the original hotel 6 cutscene (due to hotel 6 being unused in the game files, which takes you to hotel 7, wendy's hotel)
but they decided to remove that cutscene, although maybe the color palette of the original hotel 6 was still there, so it gets overlapped by mario and luigi, perhaps???
im not sure if cd-i cutscenes even work like that, but this could be a possibility
all of the cutscenes seem a little shorter actually, you can kinda tell the regular cutscenes have weird held frames everywhere
In Hotel Mario YTPs, Users would Modify the Cutscenes and make Characters say or do things they would'nt have normally.
13:41
You can tell the retail still has the beta text and design for the cologne, when you see it in the background.
Good job! This has been fun! 😺🔥
Not sure if it's just me or not, but it feels like the time Mario stands waiting for Peach to fall before Luigi starts talking actually seems faster in the beta compared to the retail version of the cutscene
Left right returns once again...
17:49 look at my new mario oc’s there names are balrio and bluigi
HEY YOU, GET OFFA MY CLOUD
The hint in Ludwig's Thump Castle Hotel is that the doors keep disappearing, and finding the secret door prevents them from doing so for the rest of the time spent in that hotel. Also in the 3rd hotel, there is a secret room that serves as a warp room to Wendy's hotel.
Man I love this series, always stop what I’m doing to watch each video
No way 17:47 Dark Hotel Mario
Looks a lot like a dream.