Troybilt Snowblower been sitting for years! Will it run? My first time to ever see this! Repair
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My name is Bre. I took two years of small engine repair at the local college. When I left school, I fell into a wonderful job at a local small engine shop where I worked the counter for a couple years. In 2010 my husband and I opened up our own small engine shop in central Arkansas where I am able to work alongside my family and best friends. We see over 2,000 pieces of small engine equipment every year, and answer 1,000's of small engine questions. We specialize in brands such as Briggs and Stratton, Kohler, Echo and Shindaiwa, but work everyday on MANY other brands like Stihl, Husqvarna, Honda, Craftsman, Remington, Red Max, Troy Bilt, Scag, Bad Boy, Hustler, World Lawn, Poulan, Mantis, Etc.. Hopefully, my experience I share, will save you Time, Money and Frustration in the future!
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One tip I use, the hole in the primer bulb will accept the straw from your carb cleaner can. You squirt into the primer bulb hole and “prime” it with carb cleaner to test fire to see if you have timing and ignition.
Good tip i will have to try that out buddy.
Thanks! That info will come in handy for sure.
The hose for that primer flows directly into the carb bowl. The air from the bulb causes fuel to get "burped" out of the venturi tube. You're just mixing carb cleaner with fuel. Also carb cleaner weakens and swells rubber. I work on this style at work all winter, if you have a no start you can pry off the red choke knob and there's just enough room to get the straw between the shaft and the plastic shroud that's around it. That'll funnel cleaner directly into the carb barrel.
@@jhirsch4415 Thanks for the information but it should prime the unit to start it and the carb cleaner should not affect the rubber for a one shot deal unless your using brake cleaner. I use Gumout by Permatex which does not seem to make the rubber swell.
My experience which is not as extensive as yours has taught me that snow blowers & out board motors do not have air cleaners. After pondering it I understood. Have fun.
Many Snowblowers have no airfilter, otherwise they clogged up with snow. I love the old Toros with the Tecumseh engines. Those are solid machines that will outlast you.
@@bobbydazzler6990 The Air Filter will FREEZE OVER due air velocity on a Cold Day.
@@bobbydazzler6990 I think an air filter might be close enough to engine heat to melt any snow that would hit it and then possibly freeze therefore restricting air flow. I do agree that it is not d
@@bobbydazzler6990 A vehicle air filter is not exposed to the snow in the way a snowblower filter would be. Screw 32 F, it's going to be sub 0 F in Wisconsin.
Hi Bre ! Up here in Quebec (Canada), snow throwers are as common as lawn mowers and I’ve worked on a lot of them. First, there is no need for an air filter as they operate in a dustless environment. In fact check the inside of a Stihl leaf blower air filter box and you’ll find a flap with a snowflake setting that bypasses the air filter when used in Winter to clear snow. There are 2 possible culprits for surging after carb cleaning. First and foremost is that infamous screen filter inside the carb behind that pressed-in fitting. All MTD do not have one but those found should be removed at first service and an inline filter added as you did. Second and much rarer is a an air leak at the intake. Spraying carb cleaner at connections and listening for a RPM change is the telltale. Take care and be merry !
Mine surges a bit but runs with choke part on. Maybe ill find it on my second attemp🤞🤞
Hi there there electric start you plug 🔌 in from extension cord
@@allanleech5926 My Simplicity did that when I used Ethanol gas with that Star additive. I switched to Ethanol free and now it runs smoothly with the choke pushed all the way in. It's a little more expensive and I have to drive about 40 miles but I just have four 5 gallon cans that I use for it so I only run up there about twice a year. Well worth it!
There is a lot of dust in clean air. Look at your furnace filter in the winter.
@@craigsmith8217 There is not a lot of dust when it's snowing, the dirt is covered by snow, there is no pollen, no leaves, no insects that could get past the air filter. It would probably end up with ice blocking the airflow for those who leave it outside.
Love the "not charged up"....😂😂😂😂😂😂 First time I tinkered with a snow blower I was wondering where the air filter was. I like to keep mine tuned to the point of only needing two pulls to start. If I need to use the electric start I need to find out why and fix it. Fantastic channel.
Your one heck of mechanic 👍👍👍
I have a Sears snow blower that is 30 years old. Similar engine design. I didn't use it the first two years and when I went to use it it wouldn't start. BAck into the shop. I learner to drain the gas from the tank and carb after that. Now I don't even put gas into it until it snows enough to use it.
Great video Bre. I still can't believe that it doesn't have an air filter. That just makes no sense. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
No dust or airborne dirt on a wet, snowy day so no need. Plus you run the risk of the paper getting wet, freezing and choking the carb of air. And no need to worry about freeze ups since the exhaust is so close to the intake. It does sound convoluted but they somehow made it work. lol
Do they have any service data you can look up to see the filter location?
This is why I've never owned a snowblower, just too much trouble!! I just hire it done.
Quite a challenge, Bre! Congratulations! Merry Christmas to you and yours!
No filter due to no dirt. Just beautiful snow. All the dampness would stop it up probably
Great video! Still looking forward to the br800?!?!
The carbs are set up notoriously lean, make sure the jets are clean clean then a real pass with your tip cleaner
My dad has a snow blower identical to that same engine and he had to have the carburetor replaced.
they have duct work going to motor for warm air intake
Chances are, if you used the electric starter, with fresh gas, it would have started...after pumping thru some of the old gas...
If not, do spark plug maintenance (clean and gap), before tearing stuff down!!!
Boat motors,snowblower might be more but they don't use air filters
Same as most outboard motors, no dust on the water and none when it’s been snowing. Just sayin!!!
Great video, I believe the Kohler lawnmower engines and almost all of the powermore engines from MTD are using those types of in tank filters now. I also dislike them. 2 things I noticed to make it a bit easier the next time you work on one of those; the removable plastic pilot jet can be oversized using a micro drill bit to 0.018" - 0.020" (I think they're like 0.017" from the factory), and it usually always fixes the surging idle. I'm oversizing all pilot jets now, even on brand new carbs, no one has ever come back for a surging issue. Also, Donyboy73 has an excellent video showing another hidden screen in behind the fuel inlet on that carburetor. You need a wrench to break it lose and remove it. I'd post the link, but the comment would be flagged. Just search "Donyboy73 hidden screen" and it should come up. Like a clogged fuel filter, it can also cause surging due to limiting the flow of fuel into the bowl, this causing a lean mixture.
There is a plastic screw on the carb that looks like your idle adjustment well if you remove that screw it is holding a idle jet under it if you take a flat blade screwdriver and pop it out there is a brass jet that can become clogged poke it out spray it with carb cleaner and reinstall it and it helps with the idle. Just Saying (Suburban Small Engine) Darien, Illinois
Snow blowers have no air filter
Like my Grandpa. Can't take him anywhere, he's so embarrassing.
You're right
@@chrisbrown7362 good one 😂🤣🤣😭
Winter gas engine don't need air filters. I've been running old engines without air filters for years. Craftsman lawn tractor 8 years running, no air filter.
I would find a way to put one on it .. this is Idaho, even our snow is dusty
We get some snowblowers in our shop. Since the carbs are cheap and labor to get to them intense, we always throw a new one on. We also remove the tank filter and install an inline one. We also suggest using non ethanol fuel and proper long term storage. Great video.
Great videos! I’m in Minnesota and use a snow blower every year. The surging comes from the pilot jet restricted or needs adjusted. Aonother add on is an inline fuel shut off. At the end of the season I shut off the fuel while running till engine kills. Next season turn on fuel, prime and it usually will start in Two pulls. I do mix stable with the gas. For the electric start plug in an extension cord 120volts.( no battery).
I do the same with my blower too. Always run it dry!!
Third. A fuel shutoff is more important than a filter. I would have just thrown away that tiny inline filter.
No air filter needed, snow not dust:) Use high test fuel only with stabilizer.
Main jet is dirty causing surge.
From Canada, the great white north.
You have a lot more patience than I do. I would have dragged out back and used it for target practice.
I heard that “ sta-bil “ is not that good - it lasts for a while,then sours the gas , I use “ sea foam “ in all my small engines-
Snowblowers are a mandatory necessity in the Midwest! Usually they break down on the coldest day of the year when you don't have a heated shop to work on them 🙂
Right, that's why I have two of them.
I have 2 and a truck with an 8' plow!
LIfe works like that, sigh. It is kinda cold here(11f) and I am out buying weedeaters and whatnot and thinking about ways to heat my garage.
@@boondocker7964 I also have two. Last storm neither would start.
@@lorrinbarth1969 Get some ether, both have electric starters I assume? I use only high octane gas, I keep it in a can that I have put Sta-bil in.
Living in the rust belt we work on them plenty. But no they don’t have air filters cuz of they would freeze and they surge because they’re lean. Most fixes Is just hogging out the pilot jet a fuzz to make them run smooth. It’s a pretty known thing. That’s a great idea to put a external filter on. I’ll be doing that today or tomorrow as I’m getting ready for snow myself
No battery. Plug an extension cord into it forvthe electric start
I have one of the same units, good to know about that little fuel filter. Crazy design. They are a must here in western MA. Iv'e had to have mine serviced for clogged fuel before, it can be fussy for sure. I always thought it was a flaw not to have a fuel shut off, especially for the end of season shut down. Electric start is nice to have, you just need to attach an extension cord to it and push the button to tun it over. Keep up the great content!!
I'm in Mass. too. I have a Cub Cadet 3 stage blower which is the same as Troy Built and Craftsman, (all MTD). I love my electric start although mine starts so easy with the pull start that I seldom use it. Just be sure not to use too long of an extension cord because the longer the cord, the more voltage drop to the starter and low voltage cranking will burn the starter motor up.
Snowblower do not use air filter no dirt in air working snowblower 30 years where I live we got a lot of snow ❄️
Always test the drive belts by putting the front of the machine against a wall, wheels should hop , many of pissed off customers up in the north east when you hit your first snow bank and the drive belts slip…. And the machine goes nowhere.
Quick fix to the idle surging issue is to remove the idle circuit jet(black plastic) under the idle adjustment stop and clean it with air and carb cleaner.
You are correct. Don't need to take carb off. I have two friends that only used there new machines for less than one hour. Next year both surging. Showed them how to clean the plastic idle jet. Back to working like new again.
Small Honda EU series generators same thing. Black plastic idle jet gums up.
I was waiting for you to find the fuel filter in the gas tank! That thing is the bane of my snow blowing season….. every year. Ethanol free is a MUST for these engines!!
So if you use 100% gasoline like I use when I mix my chainsaw gas it will make it run better & longer without maintenance to the fuel filter and jets every year.
Still has plastic on it….
@@bigbert2508mine too! Lol
Yup, snow blowers don't have e air filters. Lol
I run my snowblowers for a few minutes in the summer. My carburetors love me .
Being from Wyoming and repairing snowblowers for years it’s just a staple here everyone owns one here lol I guess I never thought about the fact that some small engine mechanics don’t ever see them lol it was funny that you were looking for an air filter and when ya said it’s not charged up not making fun just was amused and still surprised by the fact you’ve never had them in your shop I guess but very entertaining nonetheless
Living up here in canada I work on them alot just need carburetor work
Bre
Another great video.
Your work ethic is amazing and I truly appreciate the way you are willing to impart your knowledge.
I put my line trimmer in for service. Lacked power. Was told three week delay before they would look at it.
All the best to you and your family for Christmas.
Kind regards
John
Adelaide, South Australia 🇦🇺🌹🌹🌹🌹🌞
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It's summer here in Australia
In the last year of watching your videos , I have learned a lot . I never found a filter like the one you found . I always run my engines dry at the end of the season before storing . Ps 2 years ago I was given a huge snowblower . All it needed was a double drive pulley . Thank you for what you do . Merry Christmas
Got any gas in it
After coming in from cleaning out the first blowable snow of the year here in Maine, you made my day with this video. By far your best although I didn't learn much I did get some good laugh out of it.👍👍
Aw bless your heart. Snowblowers up north are important as a mower. Without one you can't leave your property. Especially if the big plows dump the end of your driveway shut with feet of snow from the road. You did awesome for your first snow blower. Congratulations !!!!!!!!
I've made the mistake of buying a snow blower that couldn't handle the tough jobs.
@@robertknight4672 I have not one but two 8hp 26" two stage blowers. Oldest is from 1999 and newest from 2006. I love the old one more and just added electric start to it not that it needed it 2 pull starter since day 1.
No air filter because no dust when its snowing.
Due to those being used in non dusty environment, they do not use air filters. Some do have a filter screen in the tank. I clean quite a few of those. Sometimes I have to make the main jet a smidge bigger using a micro drill bit to stop the surging. Good video!!
Air filter collect water and freeze!!!
@@tomessary4099
Yep.
I don't see these in Texas and never thought about it. My boat didn't have an air filter either, and I always figured it was because it had an aftermarket air scoop, but now I am thinking differently
Right snow dust can be hazardous to internal combustion eng. Lol
@@joepacheco4038 Snow dust... wouldn't that be water? Lol
I retired from MTD; snow throwers do not have air filters. You were fortunate that the bottom of the bowl wasn't rusted, I have seen that with employee units after they sat with gas for a year.
My grandpa was a manager at a Homelite plant in the ‘60s and ‘70s. They made snow throwers, in Mississippi, of all places. That’s like making humidifiers in Florida!
My old snow blower would surge like that and I couldn't get it right, so I just revved it up and tackled the driveway. It was annoying but it worked. Lol great job.
I had one of those too. An old craftsman that surged . I nursed that thing for about 14 years. I got it through stuck valves, and cylinder full of water. Mouse nests in the gearbox. I finally got rid of it when the blower housing rusted through and basically fell off. Lol. My new craftsman looks exactly like this one she just repaired.
I live in Windsor Ontario Canada I do small engine shit snowblowers never have air filters due to the fact if you leave it in sleeting rain and snow and freezes filters will never allow air through. Also the reason they have huge knobs and pull cord handle is for wearing gloves. The reason some blowers have electric corded starter options is so if the recoil freezes up with snow build up. If I use mine whilst snowing then shut it off it thaws and melts snow into every crevice.
Depends on how much snow you need to clear. And snowblower use equals less stress on your body. There will be people this year that will either die from a heart attack or be laid up in the hospital from one. So the older one is, having one is not that bad of a idea.
She already mentioned that there is very little snow where she lives; so pay attention.
I agree with Enbermist69......Even one snow removal a year is worth the $300-$400 bargain price I bought my snow thrower from HomeDepot 4 years ago. BUT, with all gas engines, fuel issues are a pain.
We can all thank the EPA for requiring snowblowers and lawnmowers to have teeny tiny little idle jet openings. The lowest root cause of surging is stock size of that idle jet hole, which clogs very easily.
First snowblower - must be a Arkansaw leaf blower - lol
Good video , glad to see I'm not the only one who has had to take a carb off a couple times to get it working right 😀
I believe they make a special edition Arkansas tiller attachment for this snow blower.
Love your videos. Watching you pulling the fuel line made me holler at the screen. Get a set of Harbor Freight's Long Reach Hose Grip Pliers sku 37909 I use mine all the time. I reviewed them on my channel in 2016
We don’t get dust in the winter in the snow-belt!
That was fun! Haha
Curious, is the front load washing machine, trash?
Thanks for sharing,
Steve
Dropping jets and other small parts into an ultrasonic cleaner after you get most of the sludge off might be helpful too. I hate working on my snowblowers because it's always when its like 0 degrees outside and doing repairs with heavy gloves on is a real pain.
You don't need an air filter. It's always run when the weather is cold and clear. Besides, an air filter would just ice up.
I have the vary same snow blower . I got it from someone that could not start it with some research I found where to start looking and yes dirty gas left in it over the summer so like you took the carb off cleaned it and yess it started !! The one thing i liked what you did is put a inline filter on it so im going to run down and get one today and put it on. Awesome idea 💡 and a other thing i do is run racing fuel thew it it a little better and smells awesome. And at the end of the winter i run the fuel out of the snow blower.👍👍👍👍 I enjoyed this video i can relate with the problems with this blower. Thank you
I had the same surging problem with my first snowblower (a Powermore from Lowes). Was a complete novice, just messing with it for a friend to save her money. Cleaned the carb, which was awful after sitting full of gas for three years (big snow when she bought it, no snow since until that Winter), but it kept surging. Pulled up a manual online, looked at the exploded view and . . .
turned out there was a round plastic piece on top of the carb that seemed to be a stop for the throttle, so it wouldn't go too high. But, you unscrew that plastic piece and there was another jet inside!! Pulled that out and cleaned it, put it all back together and it was perfect.
Some jerk once told me if I don't know what I'm doing I have no business working on small engines but I did my research, figured it out, and learned something for next time, so screw him. Yay!
Correct
I'd call that "Persistence," which Bre demo'd in this vid!
Welcome to the Rodeo, Bre.
Bolt City USA. Much to remove to do most anything on a 2 Stage Snowblower. Electric Start is 110 Volt. Use Extension Cord to "power it".
Snowblowers don't usually have Air Filters. Cold Air plus flying snow would "ice" the carburetor.
Some older Snowblowers used a shroud around carburetor, exhaust heated the air. Those models could use an Air Filter.
Small drill bit, enlarge the jet. Should stop the surging.
From the great white north I hear this constant surging of these - I have pin drills to clean the tiny hole in a jet(?) under a cap in top of carb and yes never an air filter - not much dust when a a foot of snow on the ground - great job
There's no air filter because they're only used during the snow season
I use mine in the summer too to clean off my gravel driveway. I aim the chute at the neighbor’s house. I don’t like him very much. lol 😆
Unfortunately, in Maine we are all too familiar with snow blowers. Like many small engines, owners leave fuel in them and the carbs get fouled.
Never thought I'd see this teardown on your channel Bre but happy you got one in. I have this exact model and have only done the bare minimum to maintain it between seasons. At least now I have something more than an exploded drawing if I ever need to repair. Cheers!
If snowblowers had filters they would plug in minutes hence you won't see and air filter on a snowblower or sweeper for that matter... if used in snowbelt. I would have used the electric start... hell with pulling that rope... LOL
I purchased an Airens snowblower in 1987. Still have it. It's a beast!
I see the latest Airens models at "Casa de Depot" stores and have to tell you they are cheap looking.
Great video, thanks for sharing.
So true. My Ariens is 1970, with all manuals and work file. It’s a spare but I can’t part with it as it won’t quit.
Older Ariens feel like commercial grade to me. Supremely constructed and well designed. Well worth maintaining and keeping if youve got one.
Stay gold.
I got one of the last ariens that runs a 13hp tecumseh on it, has an actual battery start, not a 120v. Heated hands, electric actuated chute. You'll never believe how much I paid, it was $0. Widow was getting rid of it with an old dead 80's machine. All I had to do was add a fuel shutoff.
Someday you'll pay for pulling those darn starter ropes. That's what they told me for years and now I'm paying. We need more electric start equipment lol!
First time I took my snowblower apart, I was surprised there was no air filter.
Theres no air filter on snow blowers and the electric start is 110v plug in.
I have the Craftsman version of this snow thrower and it surges like the one you just fixed. I run it with about 1/8 choke on after start until it gets warm and then the surging stops. I'm going to clean the carb and rework the fuel filter - those are great tips.
Snowblowers have no air filters.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to the Chickanic family from Wayne and Jake at Eliminator Performance. Just wanted to say it was a real HOOT to watch a video on someone that has never seen a snowblower before i believe this is a first for me. I really broke down when you mentioned the electric starter was not charged LOL! Just a tip for your viewers: it is important to use the electric starter periodically so the drive mechanism does not get rusted and seized which stops it from engaging and disengaging properly. Additionally the electric extension cord should not be more than 10 feet long or you take the chance of burning out your starter due to amperage loss from excessive cord length. Normally these carbs also have a pilot jet that sometimes needs opening to stop surging, there is a plastic screw that sets the throttle plate and the pilot jet is held in by this. Be careful when removing you do not damage the two O rings. This jet is extremely small like 0.012 to 0.013 inches and we normally open them to the next micro drill bit size before reinstalling. Not sure if this carb had one because i could not pick it up in the video but it should be there it controls the low idle. Anyways i enjoyed this video and we get these machines in for service on a regular basis her in Southern Ontario, Canada.
Great comment Wayne.
@@mtwseneca Thank you very much we enjoy watching Chickanic and i guess there are a lot that have never seen a snowblower but i would rather see them then tornadoes and hurricanes that is for sure.
@@waynestefinashen239 We in the downwind side of Lake Erie just got another snow dump, and as much as I hate it, there is no comparison to the two disasters you mentioned. Mike
I've owned my MTD snowblower for over 20 years and never had to work on its carburetor. I just drain the gas tank and carburetor after each season. It always fires up the next season without problems. I also own 2 Honda tractors with GX390 engines and a bunch of other lawn equipment with smaller Honda GX engines. On those engines, pulsating like what you experienced is usually caused by a clogged pilot jet. I didn't see you take out the pilot jet in your initial cleaning. Was cleaning the pilot jet what fixed it for you in the end? Is there even a pilot jet in MTD carbs?
Two other things to note: 1) snowblowers don't have air filters because they operate in a mostly dust-free environment; 2) the electric start uses 120V mains voltage. There's a flanged inlet shown around 10:40 in your video. An extension cord plugs into that. Once connected, you push the red button next to the flanged inlet to crank the engine. The best part is no dead battery to contend with.
I came across your channel only a short while ago. Nice videos with very informative contents. Thanks for posting.
Third times always the charm as that old saying goes Ms Chickanic
Geez the engineer/designer of those machines sure weren’t thinking ahead for ease of basic maintenance for sure.
Another great video and always educational
And I do love your down to earth way of describing your thoughts on each situation and detail in how and why your doing what you’re doing too.
Thank you for another good one
Merry Christmas and A Happy New Years Wish for you and you’re family🎄
Owners manual has maintenance procedures to keep things running smooth and how to remove parts to proceed. Online with model number is available free for manual.
No air cleaner! Ha! You crack me up. When you have a foot of snow on the ground there is no dust in the air. I hate those tiny in-tank fuel filters they hide from you. The other hidden one in the fuel fitting on the carb is a pain too. Did you mention a battery not being charged for the electric start? No battery. You use an extension cord and push the button. Those are actually good. It was fun watching you discover all the odd stuff on snow blowers.
I did not think I would ever get to see you do a snow blower.
No air filter is normal for snowblowers.
My snow blower fires up on one pull after sitting for a while. Yes they don't have air filters. Great video!!!
Snow blowers never have an air filter. During winter season you don't have any dirt and dust in the air like you do in the summertime. So they don't use them. And they also don't use them because if snow and ice got built up in the air filter and froze and it wouldn't run. Btw, I've never owned a snowblower that didn't surge. I just make sure I run Seafoam in my fuel all the time.
Just got through working on my son and laws , sat for two years, had to replace the carburetor, great Video Chickanic
As a fellow Arkie no need for a snowblower for me LOL However the MTD machines are around and the carb info is good.
yeah, electric start "is probably not charged up..." with out the extension cord 🙂 and air filters are not usually needed in snowy weather. A lot of snowthrowers don't have fuel filters unless they are inline with the tank and exposed for easy cold weather removal. cold weather engines are tuned to run in a different environment and often don't run well in warm weather (> 40 F). All the shrowding is to keep the heat 'envelope' closer to the engine so there won't be any freezing of the fuel system in extreme cold operating weather. Love your channel, Keep showing us cool stuff !!
it's HUNTING as the FUEL CHANGES without fuel suppliers TELLING ANYBODY. you need to check MAIN JET SIZE with watch maker drills in METRIC then go ONE SIZE LARGER on MAIN JET by drilling it. SUZUKI M120X on TOROS hunt like that and main jet enlarging solves it.
30 year Submarine Missile Technician here. Love your work ethic and insight explanations.
Can you fix a snowblower with a knowledge?
@@jonyoung6405I wonder what is a knowledge?
@@hairycods2273 I have
" a knowledge" to fix a snowblower. Do you want my 30 year resume ( CV) ?
@@jonyoung6405 yes and all other proof of said “knowledge”!
Almost feels the the limiter is causing the surge. Most snow blowers surge like that. When you get them under a load they run great. The starter is only ran when plugged into 110v so good if you can’t get them to fire.. And when it’s -20 they are a life/back saver.
I have an older snowblower that I think is from the late nineties it doesn't surge. But as soon as I shut mine off I hear all the neighbors newer snow blowers surging.
Ask Owner If Blower Loped / Surged Like that, When it was New??? Also Governor/ Air vain/ Springs Might Need Adjusting!!! I've Seen Tillers And Small Engines like that, At An Idle, They Lope/ Surge, But Under Load Governor Working Properly They Rev- Up To A Normal Run/ R.P.M. And Run Fine. Your Gas """"Did"""" Look Like Ethanol Residue.
That Original Gas Filter Was Crap! Make Sure Gas Filter Right size For Particle Stainage. They Probably Make At Least 3 Different Sizes!!! On Carbs With Diaphragms Usually Causes The Lopeing/ Surge Idle Pattern??? All These Small Carbs Are Extremely Delicately Balanced, 1 Little Tiny Thing Out Of Whack , And Then Engine Issues. Nice Video!!!
Love tearing into something I've never worked on. You are just the gal to do it for me while I sit here and watch and drink coffee. 😁
No need to Muck around. compression and oil? then 1. Spark? 2. fresh gas and clean filters. 3. squirt ether down carb, runs and dies? 4 clean out fuel tank and carb. 5 Any mechanical damage? If all those things done and still won't go then trash it.
Bravo! On the final try did you enlarge the hole of a jet?
Sometimes there’s a in-line filter at the gas tank where the old connection is so long slender filter or strainer are you Gotta do is get on UA-cam and you can see what they do. Have a great day.
Good job! I fix snowblowers for friends. In a snow environment no need for an air filter and the exhaust is near the intake to melt snow and ice as air enters . An extension cord powers the electric start . I believe that engine was made by LCT ( they bought Techumseh) , made in China. Cheers!
@ Jon Young The engine is most likely a Loncin OHV(Honda Clone).
MTD says its their own design, really just a few tweaks, end of the day its a Chonda.
Hey Chickanic. Do you have any advice for sourcing a replacement carb? I've got a snowblower up here that has never been ran, I believe, but the carb is so gunked up that we are going to need to replace it. Apparently someone had filled it with crappy gas and left it for a few years. Having trouble finding a replacement carb online. I am looking for a huayi 190sa. It is for a Snowbeast 36.
I have the same Troybilt unit and it works fairly well. It was $700 new 5 years ago. A new carburetor is close to $100. I always use the electric start to save time and shoulder pain. It is easy to start with the pulley once it is warmed up. I'll look for that mini fuel filter!
1st of all, snow blowers aren't operated in dirt or grass environments, requiring filtering the air of that stuff, like a mower.
2nd, if you had one, it would soon clog up with snow, then freeze into ice...
3rd...cold air, engine cooling system!!!
My father and grandfather worked in a factory that made snowblowers, but in the Deep South. I always wondered how they tested them! I guess if the auger turned it worked.
Snow blower engines have to be the most unused and ill maintained of any piece of equipment out there. Often, when it's freezing cold and you have heavy snow and you need it, it is hard to start. I found the choke settings to be hard to figure out....what it wanted.
Using the electric start (AC cord required, no battery) made the process attainable, because if it was up to me pulling, it probably would not have started.
Nice job! Persistence always pays off. Just a word of caution, please be careful of the spinning impeller and auger, they can continue to spin for a while after you shut down the engine. I know a few people who have gotten injured with those working on snowblowers.
How long is a while? Seconds? Minutes?
Mine is off in a second or two…
Shouldnt spin at all if the clutch lever isn't held down.
No way can you walk from the operator position around to the front, before the auger/impeller stops if the machine is in good working condition
No air filter on snowblowers clean environment
Went through the exact same thing with my blower about a month ago when I was getting it ready for the season here in NY... mine has the same MTD motor, just a yellow paint job. The first time I tried to get to the carb, I hit the same "What the..." moments, stopped, looked at my manual, then hit UA-cam. Then I cleaned and reinstalled 3 more times. But the blower ran great this week when I needed it.
I've gained quite a bit of confidence from watching your channel... how things should work, what to look out for and what to avoid. Thanx for your videos!
I learn so much from your channel. Unfortunately after recommending to my brother to get an Ariens snow blower he came home with one of these jewels. First time, second season he went to fire it off, sure enough no start…. Yep, Plugged carburetor
Chickanic,
You are fearless and amazing! Do not ever quit, I need you. Because of you I'm about to pull apart an echo string trimmer that won't start. I bought a carb rebuild kit in case I need it. First I'm gonna check the muffler, then spark as I already have fresh gas. Hoping for the best.
To my knowledge snowblowers don't have air filters. With the snow blowing in the air around the machine they would freeze shut. On my tractor mounted snowblower I remove the air filter during winter usage.
Great video, glad you got it to run. 😊 The pilot jet on the carb is often the cause of surging. It is usually located under a small rubber cap on the carb. Donyboy73, Elimimator Performance, and Doublewide 6 are great resources for snowblower repairs.
Hint, spray cheap car wax into the snow intake and discharge chute...helps sticky snow move, not clog...