Rain Dove: New York's Androgynous Supermodel
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2015
- Rain Dove never saw herself as a supermodel, but her androgynous looks and unique gender-bending style took New York's fashion scene by storm. See how this self-proclaimed "gender capitalist" deals with building her personal brand and a hectic audition schedule one week before September's New York Fashion Week.
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Rain is so damn cool and watching this inspired me in some very specific ways that are difficult to voice, but that I really appreciate. Thank you to Bustle for making this and thank you to Rain for doing you.
Garrett Watts Wow I didn’t expect to see you here but I agree.
She reminds me of you Garrett!
You're such a supportive dad and I stan
Damn Garrett, loved seeing your comments on Buttress's stuff and love it on this video as well! Rain is the tits. So dope.
AGHH GARRETT
"When you get in my way, you don't just get in my way you get in your own way because you're getting in the way of the good that I have to offer."
IKR!
I love this quote from her.
I want to needlepoint it on a throw pillow.
Self-centered much? Are these the words back-stabbing bitches hide behind nowadays?
I'm sorry but it's actually a pretty crappy quote, she's very inspiring but this quote was just.. what.
I was recently rejected from some of the colleges I really wanted to go to and lemme tell you, this quote really helped me. It really is a loss for them that I won't be joining their class of 2023
Ikr sounds like something a rapist or groomer would say lol or maybe just a narcissist
Androgynous people are fascinating. It's like they are beautiful shapeshifters.
@@lizzienicolee
if the people in hell look this hot then I'm booking a ticket right now
lizzienicolee what a sad sad person you are living a sad and ignorant life.
@Evening Rain genderfluid/agender is a gender identity, adrogyny is an aesthetic that anyone can have but is often associated with genderfluid/agender people
@Pissant you've got it a little mixed up. Androgyny is just a look (like feminine or masculine), agender means identifying with no gender, genderfluid means experiencing multiple genders in different periods (if I oversimplify it, for example, one week you're a man, then for a month you're a woman etc) and nonbinary is another gender (next to the most known binary man/woman). Pansexual (attracted to people of all genders) refers to attraction, not gender identity, and demisexual means you only feel sexual attraction under certain circumstances (usually when in love or after creating a strong emotional bond with someone). It might get a little confusing sometimes, it's dozens of different terms/labels
That's the most poignant and elegant way I have ever heard them described. I will never not sat this now.
Anyone else hung up on the fact that she didn't say Happy Birthday to the casting girl? :/
Oliver Liew YESSSS
Lmao yes. I had a mini mental breakdown.
She more than likely did but it got cut during the editing of the video
yes omg i was a little hurt for some reason lol
Maybe she did it's edited
Androgynous people are soooo beautiful and intriguing
Nuka Cola Ikr she's hot af
you can be too, its not a mystical thing she literally just got a males haircut and didnt put on make up
Luz Iervasi her only masculine feature is her prominent nose. The nose makes or breaks people honestly if she had a stubby little pig nose like a lot of girls she wouldnt off been as androgynous as she is now.
Agreed.
I wonder if this falls under stereotyping.
THAT BONE STRUCTURE
Mitchell dude.. she's just skinny.. that is why the bone structure is so visible
I think she has either swyer syndrome or partial androgen insensitivity syndrome . I highly doubt she is a normal female .
Very sharp.
6:57 it's just like, ya know, like, that's - yeah.
*me when I'm giving a presentation*
Do you want salt with your answer LMAO!
Her soul FITS her body.
If that makes sense.
Thebeautifullest One Well said !
That's because she learned how to express herself in the best way possible
Carleena indeed clothes don’t have gender
she would make more money if her eyebrows met in the middle. LOL
@@george40nelson4 what
Okay, I think I'm in love.
Same
Same!
samee😍😍
Kinda gay because Rain is a girl
I think most of us agree
I thought I was a straight girl, but actually, now I don't know anymore
haha I'm bisexual so this is perfect! XD Not being confused ftw!
I thought I was a straight man. Now I don't know anymore.
I thought I was a straight girl and...whatdoyaknow I'm still straight.
+Jean Mackey
Literally same lmaoo
+Lawliet You're still straight lol. You're only attracted to her BECAUSE she looks more like a guy.
My bisexualness is going crazy
*bisexuality 😂😭
And my pansexuality😂💖💛💙
SAME.
Sameeeee
Exactly same here 😭😭💖
“Friendship isn’t common in this industry so you have to give them the illusion that you could be their friend” ok so that’s feeding into the problem tho
She is just being real tho us as a whole public
At least she's honest tho
I believe its highlighting the problem rather than feeding, naturally she isn't going to be hostile to the people she works with, is she?
Like maybe there's people that you would never seen again, obviously you can't be a friend like that
She is selling lies and toxic positivity, it's truly disgusting
everyone's all like "she's making me question my sexuality" but she is LITERALLY 100% my type y'all don't know what you're missing in the world of androgynous people
kayizcray eXActLy
Big MOOD
Dude I looked through so many UA-cam videos to find her. She stole my heart. I love her voice. And I love her look. She's so beautiful, and I wish I looked like her.
Same
she's epic and her words are so inspiring and mind opening about being in a modelling industry
zis is a man
And she's so freaking tall! 6'1", i mean...
Get her
I’m an androgynous person, I’ve always been different. I never fit in with the boys because I looked like a “sissy” and the girls would treat me like a doll because “OMG he would look soooo cute in makeup” This is my role model now😍 this really spoke to me.
Something about her behavior is off putting. She’s very much her own person, and I love that, but something about the way she interacts with others is irksome.
same she didn’t even say happy birthday to the girl in the beginning and everyone is falling in love
@@fkfk9851 i said the saaame thing
"You just have to make them feel like you could be their friend"
She talks to people in a way that she knows she will get her way which seems narcissistic a con
Alegria She’s polite so that people feel better because there’s a lot of distrust and hostility between models and honestly I think she has a right to make friends like that because of the industry she is in she has to make friends to make them not because she wants them necessarily
3:59 "I'm not a boy" , "I'm a boi"
T • I • F a brasilian here . Interesting I'm not feeling until.
there's a subreddit just for you if youre curious
where can i buy this shirt lmao
Me too! I could only find ones with "I'm not a boy"
Wow so refreshing to see someone a bit different in the modelling scene. She seems happy with herself and that inspires me. :)
Her mistaking the asian dude for David (another asian) really turned me away and I felt off about her during the rest of the video
Hrithika Rose I felt the exact same way :/
@Silver Chopsticks Ok but heterosexuals are people who are attracted to the opposite gender. I believe you ment cis (to be the gender you were born with, therefore "non-transgender").
I feel like they should’ve edited that part out. I had secondhand embarrassment
There's been research done that shows people of certain races have trouble distinguishing certain other races. It's just a fact of life, not a personality flaw.
I mean, yeah, but also that's like a thing that a lotta white North Americans do. It sucks for people of Asian ancestry, and we should always do our best to damn well not do that, but also it really isn't about them, entirely. Like I don't mean that their feelings don't matter on the topic, I mean that it's just about one population that has certain facial features that stand out and are different from what most white North Americans are used to seeing consistently.
There's actual racism, and then there's having trouble picking out facial features that are unfamiliar. Probably feels the same on the receiving end, but it's hard to see actual fault or culpability there at the same time.
Maybe I'm just being an asshole. I certainly know some Asian friends who would hate to hear me say that. I dunno.
I just realized Chelsea, the photographer at the beginning of the video was my high school classmate! Ah so proud of her. Aside from that Rain is beautifull!
I have a masculine face and she really inspires me to rock it.
Arlene M. me too
so sexually confused rn
@@lizzienicolee lol im litterally pissing my pants, shut the fuck up 😂😂
@@lizzienicolee are you on crack
How anyone can look at her and think she's a product of "sexual confusion" or that she's "sinful" because she may be gay or whatever, you people are insane. Clearly she's genetically the way she is. She shows clear physical signs of being born that way. Yet you weirdos want to say God make a mistake? What the hell are you trying to say?
@@annagitana1 if you look at the bone structure of this person you can tell it's a boy just pretending to be a masculine woman - prob with a shaved adams apple and on estrogen to get a higher voice. they're trying to blur the lines so you cant tell what's what and you will be confused. TBH most your fav celebs are secretly trans. it's one big club. satan has been at this for a long long time.
s@@lizzienicolee I think Satan has already possess you. I am sorry u are afraid of different kinds of human beings in the world. :-(
Being told all my life I have a "strong face" and a "boy body" caused me so much pain for no reason. The only thing that should have changed was their intent. I love my strong face and my ATHLETIC body type, no thanks to the world, but ppl like rain! Thank you for being here!
It's actually a sociological/psychological occurrence that is common when people interact with others of different races/ethnicities. She was probably embarassed that she mixed up the Davids and was trying to cover by saying they look similar. I feel the same type of embarassment when someone remembers me but I have no idea who they are. More than likely the truth is that none of these folks are really friends. It's just someone they met or worked with at a fashion show 3 years ago. If they were truly real friends she would know his name. But the entertainment industry is kinda like that where you try to be friendly and network with anyone you meet because it could lead to you landing a gig.
what a dynamic person...the farming, the diy home, the NY modeling, the being a girl boy...
best of both genders. Basically a perfect human being.
Slanesh
I like your comment. :)
eldariub Yo I know there are more than two genders but you need to calm tf down.
DarylArt Digital (Etsy) nothing good come from genders. Agender mechanics is best.
DarylArt Digital (Etsy) there is no such thing perfect human being
she looks like milk's little sister if milk had a little sister.
k a y l e e OMG YES
milk?
SO FUCKING TRUEE
butterface?
k a y l e e my first thought
Lady: Its my birthday!
Rain Dove: Its your biiirthday??
*Goes on about her business without saying happy birthday
Jehovas witnesses do not acknowledge birthdays. Maybe she doesn't either.
It could have been edited out.
Not her fault tho,she doesn't even ask about the lady birthday
@@jekesan4221 I think the photographer only said it’s here birthday as an explanation why she dressed up.
There was a cut.
What a beauty....and so handsome...she seems so open, lively, and friendly...love her..
I like her a lot more than I thought I would, so down to earth but yet she still understands her worth
to see rain develop as a person even since this video is so incredible. i look up to them immensely and admire the way they spread their message
"we don't give a fuck! you've got a penis!" lmao xD
k a y l e e she has penis? 😮
3:31 "wait no i have a vagina! please!" i love her HAHAHA
Va-guy-na
I love her attitude, I love her ideals, I love how she stands for herself, I just love her.
Anyone who knows their own worth, is naturally charismatic and screams it to the world is someone we should rejoice in. We all should be practicing this, regardless of gender, sexuality, height, waist size or color. Let's lose the superficial ideals and dance to our own music 🎶.
Hello how are you doing 👋👋☺️☺️
Shes so beautiful and in certain angles super hansome oh my 😍
'You have to give them the illusion you can be a friend'
Okay, this girl is both stunning and a jerk.
Yup. And people fall for it all the time too. Commenters are just raving over the apparently wonderful personality she has.
Papera Di Gomma Respect that she can manipulate the industry for her gain lol. Doesn't make her a good person but certainly makes her good at her job.
Papera Di Gomma It helps her in her career, so, whatever.
Papera Di Gomma I wonder if she is a good or bad listener. people like her usually have a large following in any room, because they can be the life of a party/of a convo. but that doesnt always make for loyal friendships...you have to have balance. those who are always the center of attention, dont usually know how to give the same care that they receive to others. she might be balanced, and have great relationships...its not something you can tell from one video where she is the subject.....but i did connect the dots that if she is a poor listener, maybe thats what gave her the mantra you quoted...about being perceived as a friend by others..because im sure being the exciting acquaintance to many tends to be easier, and get more invites in the industry world...rather than being a reliable friend to few.
none of this is fact. just putting my thoughts down to see what anyone might think.
Everyone has friends like this (that put something in to take something out), and most can recognize the quality. No hate toward this woman for being this way.
I'm gay but now idk lol
honestly same
Karl Donatella legit me
what do you mean by that? kind of lost lol
A gay man is attracted to her androgynous looks.
Same she's such a hot guy I'm confused
wish i had a “friend” that wouldn’t say happy birthday to me or mistake me for someone else 😭😭😭😭
Shaniece Singleton damnnnn
She is a con fast talking the photographer something off putting about her definitely
It might have been cut but not knowing the name lmao no thanks 😂
For real! The mistaking the person for her friend felt ehh
Bwahahaha
She is both beautiful and handsome. She is a symbol of greatness in fashion.
I totally missed the beautiful, she looks all dude to me.
I guess what makes her different from most androgynous models is that she didn't wake up one day and say "well you know, I don't really fit in with the gender binary. I'm going to cut my hair (or grow it out) and dress in a manner that makes my gender ambiguous so that my outsides match my personality which isn't constrained to a gender."
No she was born into the reality that she genetically looks like both genders. She looks like a beautiful woman and a dashing man at the same time. I'm certain there are more people out there like her, people who didn't choose to be androgynous but are androgynous, people who didn't choose to be apart of this ongoing war for acceptance...but were born into it. Just imagine...she could have gotten depressed over it, if she identified as a female woman and desperately wanted nothing "manly" about herself, she can't simply change her style and make it disappear. Fortunately she embraced herself and viewed her situation as a blessing, and sets out to prove it.
Huh? Where exactly does she look like a beautiful woman??? She barely looks feminine at all.
actually she is very curvaceous like a woman. Her hips, her chest, her slender frame... she has a lot of woman like qualities. It's just her face is definitely masculine. beauty is more than just one's face.
Well I'll grant ya that's true.
Please stop assuming anyone is trying to match their outside to their personality. Stop assuming that "androgynous" presenting people are doing this because of their personality. Stop assuming that "androgynous" presenting people are assuming anything about personality from anyone's clothes. You have the wrong idea about someone like me. It's more like just something that is more comfortable not only physically but also mentally and I know everyone has different preferences. I don't think it means anything about a person, or judge those who choose to dress in a way society considers feminine, so stop judging me. My personal choices also have nothing to do with expressing my personality. I just know what I want.
@@Quarksi I hope you realize those are breast implants...
i'm in love
thanks.
2 years later..
I LOVE LOVE HER PERCEPTION! Like the fact that she sees both sides of the industry as it is, and simply capitalizes on it, at the same time she's an activist too. Even if she quits modelling, I'd still to follow her, because she has such cool personality, and she's smart.
“WAIT! I have a vagayna!” 😂😂
My brain kept switching between male and female based on her clothes. Kinda amazing.
She is so darn beautiful, not just physically but in who she is.
"Wait!! I have a vah gyna!!" Omfg i love her
She’s a compulsive liar for fame and money. Please tell me why you love her?
I needed to see rain. Thank you so much. You are such a inspirational human.
friendship is not common in this century, but you have to give them the illusion that you could be their friend! very nice quote from Rain Dove!
ARMENIAN Girl not really, especially when she mistakens her asian friend for someone else and doesn't say happy birthday to that girl
That's a shitty quote.
She's so beautiful, handsome and has a fantastic personality. I love her message ❤️
I'm a gay guy and idk lol 😂😂😂 she's attractive
yikes
Nah got breasts - no
absolutely love her way of thinking and how bold she is.
So like I see a female version of brenden urie anyone else?
yassss lol
fuck yes
lol yes
100% see it
It's just the hair though haha.
When you're bisexual and she is one of the most perfect combinations of genders.... I'M IN LOVE!!!
"Oh we can't take you"
*takes off baggy jacket*
"Alright, c'mon in"
“I’m not perfect.. wait I am perfect. Perfectly imperfect” rain u make me swOon
her face is so handsome im in love
same
Oh my goshhhhhhhhhhhhh I love her. She is amazing.
Me too ! The World needs more people like her 🤗
+Nanciefy Love how accepting people are. You are definitely one of those and I appreciate that!
Me too
Is anyone going to mention how beautiful the name Rain Dove is? Its such an angelic name
I'm a documentary filmmaker, this is excellent work, great rapport with the model, they were very open and transparent. Love it.
I'm FTM, and I'm tbh so envious of how well she could pass for male if she waned to. Life really isn't fair.
You read my mind lmao
She reminds me a lot of Amber from f(x). Their voices are almost the same too.
other than the androgynous or even their masculine appeal and a little bit of the voice there are no similarities between the two.
+Bonbon VRock I think it's the way they talk. So similar
Bonbon VRock you literally just listed similarities between the two... But those are what I see as the same between them anyway 🙄 especially the way they talk
well there are tons of androgynous females or tomboys out there but I'm not gonna all of them are similar to amber. I mean they've the androgyny part in common but they're too such different people that when I was listening to her and looking at her I could not relate her to amber at all. Then I saw your comment and tried to find if there's anything in common between the two. And I still go by what I thought initially.
She was someone famous in her past lives, I'm sure of it. Rain, you were. Wish hard enough and you'll find out who exactly you've been. The knowledge would validate your existence in this life and propel you to do even more good than you already are. Coming across you, this is what I was compelled to say. What a lovely person inside and out.
Idk why about her doesn't give me good vibes... Nothing she's saying is bad yet I get bad vibes
My name is Human ...it’s because she clearly isn’t fashions ‘anti-hero’, she is the industry’s new ‘darling’ as she blatantly displays the NWO agenda of androgynous trans humanism. Baphomet worship in a pretty package. You can smell the stank of evil here. Trust your instincts, educate yourself in this. So many videos. Very attractive, yes and not the issue.
@@dissendiums what
well...she lied multiple times about her entire bio, admitted to it, never apologised and continued lied so...you are absolutely right! Her entire "brand" is constructed on lies and toxic positivity
@@lenahuston7626 lied about her bio...?
Totally cocky (😅 meaning arrogant obviously) and not in a good way.. in an over-entitled spoilt brat way. She thinks she's something special
I think she's really clever. and cool. i weirdly respecy her without knowing her i like her... she's one of those people everyone will gravitate towards and you want them to be a success at whatever they do. A rare gem.
Androgynous people are _always_ beautiful.
I'm so happy this popped up in my suggested list!!
My sisters always say I look like a lesbian or a little boy even though they know I'm straight and engaged to a man, but they just don't understand! I'm always being bullied by them for every small thing, but my fiance has always made me feel special. With his help, I'm starting to love myself and understand that it's okay to be me.
Sometimes I want to dress feminine, and sometimes I want to dress masculine. Sometimes I do a mix of both. It doesn't matter what I look like, and my sexuality is none of their business. What matters is that I'm loved, and I like that I'm weird.
You do you, dress however makes you happy. Don't listen to cruel people, if they are trying to drag you down its normally because of jealousy. Tell them not be stupid, you can't look like a lesbian, there's too much diversity in the lesbian community for there to be a 'look', I've seen butch girls, feminine ones, skinny, curvy, tall, small, black and white ones. Just remember that you are beautiful, they are being ugly with their bullying 💖
Rain Dove you’re a freaking inspiration - you don’t cease to amaze.
Not really into the whole androgynous look but she looks pretty great.
no one gonna mentioned the asian stereotype Rain did " oh you look just like that other " xD
it wasn't about a stereotype man. he night have had the same haircut etc.
Lemon Ste i know that - what i was saying is it lived up to the stereotype lol
That can happen with anyone. o-o i've seen two guys that looked exactly alike...until standing next to eachother. They were white. It's not like she dismissed it saying "Well you all look alike", she apologized and said she genuinely thinks they look a like
i noticed that too, it was clearly an accident and not malicious, so idk why they left it in the video?? it didn't add anything. if it was me i'd want it taken out.
On a video about a woman who looks like a man, you can't really complain about confusing one guy who looks like another.
Thank you. I love her. She's this voice in my head I can't explain.
this is so raw, and i love it so much
Ugh her reasons for modelling are too perfect
Not fucking questioning anything! She's so attractive😍
What an incredible person. Such a strong personality and very inspiring
I models in the 70s ...I love Rain...she's a breath of fresh air! Wish her a lot of success!
What a beautiful human being with an amazing heart. I'm so awe-struck !
She is absolutely gorgeous, not just in looks, but certainly in personality! That said, I can't stop looking at her face.
My eyes just can't get enough of Rain's face, so handsome, so beautiful, all at once. Gorgeous human whatever the clothes.
I love her personality and her background, definition of fierce😝
I'm a straight female, but i would totally date her hahah
You are in denial, you are not straight.
@@med7117 *you're
@@fitnesspoint2006 They probably are. It's because she looks a lot like a man.
@@user-kb1ur9ky8b One can be attracted to masculinity, without being attracted to males/females.
@@Noa...... Okay?
This woman is so freaking interesting.
you know she a manipulative liar, right?
@A S do a simple google search to find out - look up rain dove lies...and even read how disgusting her wiki page is and how she says she’s a gender capitalist.. literally their term.. making it all like it’s one big joke.
I just found out about Rain. She seems so genuine and like an overall good person. Love her so much!
Damn I’m in love. 😍😍😍
She’s super beautiful!! I love her apartment too; so cool she built it herself!😊
"I loved the way she speaks" What does your voice contribute to your success as a model?
I don't think its the sound of Rain's voice that she was pointing to. She was pointing to the way Rain talks, the mannerisms she has when speaking and the words she uses. Rain is easy to relate to because she knows how to talk to others and make them feel like they could be friends with her. I think that quality of charm could be useful in the modelling industry where connections - who you know - is vital to success.
wow she is so handsome, i want her.
Awesome to see someone who is comfortable in their own body and taking it to the next level. Beautiful!
I'm into dudes and there were moments in this I was legitimately attracted to her... WHAT IS LIFE
Keston Novak Maybe you’re bisexual.
The resemblance to Gaby Hoffmann is UNCANNY
woahh she was so hardworking two tumbs up 👍👍 good luck for everything 😊😊
I couldn't help noticing the girl who walks by at 2:40 is painfully thin!!!
Bakery Cat she is probably just a manikin lol
Better than being 360 pounds of lard like all the "plus sized"
@@burymedeep-be7dm wow, there is no need to express an opinion with rude words and being offensive. I mean...you should've said it in a better way. Obesity is clearly not ok for many reasons -and promoting obese models as plus size/curvy is not correct...cause they are lot more than a plus size - and so it is being extremely thin or underweight. Different side of the coin but still a problem.
@@nahla__ Obesity is everywhere. Its actually rare to see someone underweight or anorexic. I can't even recall the last time I saw someone in real life that looked unhealthy from being too skinny. Yet the argument I hear from so many morbidly obese people is "atleast I don't have an eating disorder!" Please! I don't care if someone wants plump up up to 400 pounds but stop saying its healthy or "beautiful" cause its neither!
@@burymedeep-be7dm they are both important issues...if you don't see extremely skinny people around this doesn't mean there are no eating disorders... actually a lot of people suffering from eating disorders are normo - weight or bit too thin...so it's important as overeating and obesity are. I understand your point and I quite agree with you...the only thing I didn't agree was the rude offensive tone you used. Then we can all agree and open a conversation about this "trend" of calling obese people plus size or curvy (and they are not...obese people are obese, that's it) curvy/plus size people are usually very tall girls who are a 46/48 (European/Italian sizes) or not so tall girls with these sizes...but these curvy women/girls are usually 5/10 kg more...not obese. There is a huge difference, so it's right what you said. But you know, society and brands want to sell lies and frictional standards or ideas that being unhealthy (in every way..not only obese, but also skinny, smoking, drinking and so on and on) is ok because it's politically correct to embrace everything. Wait.... It's bullsh*t. We agree.
Rain is so pure. I absolutely love her
THE WORLD NEEDS YOU
all these commenting theyre now lesbians like no girl you like that "they" looks like a hot guy and just because they have boobs doesnt mean youre a lesbian now
Rain is so stunning and fearless and I think we could all use more of that in our lives
I find her really inspiring, simple and authentic. Maybe it's just my way of viewing but it's kinda inspiring for me not to feel "forced" into my gender stereotypes (i'm a woman)
She's freaking hot.
she has the same face as my (male) crush and I am so confused... what a gorgeous person!
Rain dove had a GREAT personality! And it i hope its contagious to everyone in that damn industry, because it needs beauty like that. I hope you make it rain dove! Do what you love!!
I fell in like love with Rain in less than 10 minutes... amazing