DM Only Gives Players Cursed Items, Shuts Down Game When Players Stop Taking Them + More D&D Stories
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They literally taught the players that picking up items would punish them every time. The cursed items didn't even hook into a larger story or anything. They were just there to hurt pc's
I'm curious as to what the dm was hoping would happen? The players would likely die early.
What he really taught them was to find a way to bring them along to sell without ever physically touching them.
It sounded like he just wanted to torment people. They flat out in character state that magic items aren't worth the trouble as they all seem to have crippling drawbacks and the DM complains they are "metagaming" and "acting out of character" when it would be very much in character knowledge that any magic item they find is probably cursed and not worth bothering with.
I think its likely the DM thinks having to deal with a cursed item is a neat way to add extra interest or adversity. I don't disagree conceptually... but its a trope that only works when used sparingly. I think you can have an occasional cursed item thrown in like traps if they are easily dealt with... and probably only one big curse item if you want it to create a side arc that they party must solve before moving on with the grand schemes of the campaign. It bears mentioning in light of this DM's tactics that cursed items only work as a "trap" if you do also give out non-cursed magic items. Like imagine a world where you never encountered a chest that wasn't a mimic? The disguise is ruined and no one opens chests.
@@notednuance extra adversity? Because a bloodrage that requires character death & a functionally irreversible petrifying amulet are simple obstacles. This gm was a complete bully
"I am shocked, SHOCKED, to see that there is basic pattern recognition here!"
"Your magic item, sir."
"No, thank you."
Nice reference, well adapted. 10/10
Reference to what exactly? Can't figure it out
@@anonguy772 Casablanca
@@anonguy772 As Snail Man said, it's from Casablanca.
It's an old black and white movie.
The jist of the scene is that after hearing an order to shut the protag's business down, a military guy does so while justifying it with "I am shocked, SHOCKED to find out that there's GAMBLING going on in here!" And right after, someone comes up to him and is like "Your winnings, sir" and the military guy nods, takes it and goes "yes, thank you sir"
(so yeah, he was actually gambling the entire time, and him shutting it down for gambling is just a convenient excuse he's using, he's not "shocked" at all)
@@AegixDrakan This is hilarious lmao
Killing the player seems a little harsh, just killing the character would have been sufficient. Hope they hid the body well.
Took me about 5 seconds to realize the joke and holy shit.
Das kek
Goddamnit, Zach. Not with the puns again!!
I don't know, I usually find that it's the player that's the problem, not the character.
They wanted to kill all of their characters at once
That amulet of skeleton that beats you up summoning is low key hilarious
Throw it at the bbeg
Bam, new party member for the final boss
ngl, it could make a great decoy, might as well give you 1 or 2 extra turns
I'll give it to my party as a joke lol
The Amulet of Blunt Weapons Practice.
I'm guessing that the default command for the skeleton upon being summoned was to attack the user's worst enemy, unaware of the fact that we are always our own worst enemy. The amulet's original creator probably lived just long enough to realize how badly he'd screwed up.
personally the best cursed item i've ever heard of is the Sword of Ogre Saying, which forces you to yell "Ogre" instead of talking. other than that it acted as your normal magic sword
Reminds me of the "Hag of Bolding".
I love puns and items that are meant to trip up players who aren't paying attention. Like books that will answer any question but it has limited uses, and using that to trip them up when they ask something silly like "any question?"
I love cursed items like that can add some great humor and mild chaos to a campaign
adding that to my campaign
*Saving a fair maiden*
*"OGRE"*
"This DM is actual, literal, breathing garbage and the fact that he somehow gained sentience remains a mystery." Couldn't have said it better myself.
Someone probably used true polymorph on him.
Baffles the mind
well, at least he found out why they wouldn't let black people have guns back in ye olden days.
Actually, kind of still today.
Turns out when you tell someone they're subhuman and deserve to die, you'd best make sure you're not within murdering distance.
Because at that point you've just made it "you or me".
May have special needs....seems like acute anxiety.
Seems like...
this Campaign was cursed!!
>BADUMM DISH
"We were only able to get him to stop attacking after killing the player."
Damn, they didn't have to go that hard. I would have just stopped playing the game before committing homicide.
Yeah, killing the character should have been sufficient. And yet they kept playing after that.
If you die in the game, you die in real life
@@jindo5 if you die in real life, you get reincarnated into another world with your smart phone.
@@bigmoe9856 Reverse Uno- you're reincarnated into a smartphone.
@@Undomaranel that could actually work seeing as the people who're most likely to use me art teenaged gir-
FBI OPEN UP
I think that first DM is DEFINITELY a bad DM. They purposely railroaded the players into death, punished them with death or being attacked for picking up items, and then got mad and blamed them when they.... didn't do the thing they were repeatedly punished for doing. They literally made the only way to play the game players willingly filing their characters into a woodchipper for no reason.
My players just acquired their first cursed item. And it's a curse that will tie in to one of the characters' backstory (if the wear it). I think stuff like that should be fun or move the story along, not just end everything cus you feel like being a dick
Cursed items should still be useful... just situational or awkward. Otherwise, you shouldn't have them.
And, for OP, the reason he called the first DM a "good DM" is because their game was still good except for the curses. The group honestly needed to talk to him, but if he can't be reasoned with then *shrug*.
He's a sadist. End of.
Cursed items that just “oh the person becomes a bloodthirsty monster and ATTACKS their party” are boring. They don’t progress the story, they don’t result in fun and new situations. It’s just “ok, get the weapon out of their hands or KO them.” Things that have no save or a save too high for anyone to succeed on are stupid. You’re giving the players no reason to try and be creative to get out of it. There’s no nuance and no fun, just tedious problem solving, like doing thousands of addition problems by hand. Cursed items are like wasabi, too much makes everybody hate you.
@@WobblesandBean and a narcisist.
As a fellow Jake and representative of Jakes, I apologize on behalf of that Jake GM. He has already been punished and will no longer be allowed to visit the Jake gatherings for a year.
So... is jake visiting the jake gatherings again now?
@@thetrash6033 Actually the council had decided to increase his sentence to 5 years. They can be quite heavy handed, but there were not many complaints.
@@thetrash6033 Always have been.
They are sponsored by State Farm
Who am I supposed to believe now? What happened with jake???
As an embassador of the hector republic i am glad the punishment was correct
DM: This is a comic book world. No excessive violence.
Comic books: So half the universe is dead...
Comic books: so this kids dad is an alien sent here to monitor earth for his alien army. Also yes that is his son he’s beating the shit out of there. But don’t worry because he’s… INVINCIBLE
I mean turning to dust isn't violent
Comic book: (Is "The Boys")
@@yaoiboi60 right? it happens to us all eventually anyway.
(Points at Punisher, Invincible, Kick Ass, the Boys... and anything written by Garth Ennis)
**Players stop picking up cursed items**
DM: I'm utterly SHOCKED! Shocked and disturbed! Good day to you all.
Good to see you. XD Imma get to your video soon. 🤘🤘🤘
No one:
None:
*NOT a one*:
Me: -who learned of objects obsession- ...*this is his "kink" isn't it*. The "blood/violent" version.
Game continues with a real DM. Old DM comes back and asks if they can play too.
DM gets crabby after players gets wise.
DM: only gives cursed items
DM when players stop taking them: surprised Pikachu face
Frankly it is extremely in character to stop picking them up.
Player: Yeah, I don't want my character that I spent 4 hours creating to die instantly because he put on a brooch
DM: *Surprised Pikachu Face!
Games like this, I just swap the name on the character sheet and boom, back at it with a new cosmetic appearance lol
@@firedrake110 Fair, but after it's happened several times over it gets old real quick and you stop wanting to waste any more time with it
@@scrapbotcommander this thread was THREE years old, my dude
@@firedrake110I-
my bad😂I didn't even notice...
@@firedrake110I mean you did come back also to reply in all fairness
1:00 bro they murdered their friend at the table so the DM couldn’t pilot his character around. That’s some quality roleplay
Hey sometimes DnD makes "killer" moments that the players will always remember fondly lol
That's one last loose end
I was once given a cursed item at level 1, because the new DM couldn't stop himself from what I call "forced progression", since we weren't even railroaded along the way; I had a Cleric with a high ac, like, 18-19 at level 1. Level 1 (not saying that's super impressive for level 1, just pointing out : that's when I got this cursed item)
Nobody had Identify, unfortunately, and I wanted the ring on the off chance it was a Ring of Protection : I really liked standing right next to our fighter so I could Spare the Dying, And be a second option for the enemy to hit - and often not get hit - or at least, that was the idea I wanted to work towards.
Turns out, our DM thought being a "good healer" (in my eyes) was me META gaming, and it sapped me of 5 AC...
I waited for a single fight, so that it'd be an in character decision (if I was lucky enough to get this far), and after taking too many hits and being a liability to my party, in character, I told them (basically) : "I am.. sorry. This, curse is.. too much for me. I do not wish to die, and even more than that, I do not wish to be the reason any of You die. I am leaving - but, I am not without connections : I will ask around, and hopefully, find you a replacement.."
and then I looked at the DM and said "I'm gonna start working on a new character, now"
dm: you're trying to make me take racism out of the game!
player: literally has their character backstory woven explicitly with racism
That's the problem with actual racist people.
They see everything in extremes and don't understand that there are degrees in between
I mean who wouldn't want to spend dozens of hours building and raising a character with a distinct personality and flair just to have them end up turned to stone?
Isn't that fun?!
Yes.
It isn't.
That was a good play on words
I spend hours building a backstory to my characters id be so mad if thats how i died
@@tearable20s95 Big same
Eh, part of the fun of D&d for me is the risk, losing a character is not a bad thing, it adds a conclusion to a story.
Ofc, if that death had noway of predicting or avoiding it then yes, that's a bad story
@@kluuvien8204 oh, absolutely.
I've had characters die that I remember fondly.
One died on his first adventure, but it was still amazing.
But, dieing because you literally just did what the GM wanted you to do ... like you just die without being able to do anything, and without it being your fault, that's just wrong.
“We were only able to get him to stop attacking after killing the player...” Hold up. I really hope that’s just a slip of the tongue, or else the poster attends some extraordinarily vicious games. 😹
Dnd is very cutthroat
Josh’s skull was polished and now occupies a prominent place in the DM’s parlor.
Holy shit. That game was brutal!
I just imagine this guy trying to roll one more d20 as he's being throttled.
Yep, that's how cursed that item was.
I made that mistake of introducing the players to the Big Bad early. I had even given them special tools and knowledge to neutralize the evil in the boss without killing her. They weren't supposed to get the chance to use these things just yet, the boss being there as a show of strength, but through clever playing, they took her down and purified her, way earlier in the story than needed. All I could do was congratulate them,. I let them have their well earned victory, I didn't try to pull the rug out from under them. While they celebrated, I made a new plan; take a smaller preexisting threat that the players already knew about (a hook for a side quest) and promote them to big bad. I'm lucky I had something I could use as a believable backup, and I've learned to be more prepared for this kind of thing in the future.
Always have a 'Biff the Understudy (of Evil)' prepared. I got lucky and ended up teaching myself that lesson before I started running games. I still feel bad for hurting my DM like that, but while he was very upset at the time, he rolled with that into a new campaign in the same setting a couple of hundred years later built on the consequence's of leaving a god draining sword in the plane of dreams, when the only person able to go there is permanently dead. Taught me to always have a backup plan in case the PC's make a hash of it though.
“The only way we got him to stop attacking was by killing the player”
Hmm...I hope that was poor wording.
I am pretty sure it is I don't think they would kill someone over something like this
@@sb6196 i would
@@tomf4122 lol
@@sb6196 maybe the DM
Best way to use constant cursed magic items: have the players reach the end of the dungeon and run into an angry, frustrated god of mischief at his wits end that they refuse to play his games 🤣
I could totally see a pissed off jester pacing around a large treasure cave filled with cursed treasure, stomping their feet as they curse the logical party refusing to trust the items
If characters see their friends die time and time again after picking things up, they'd probably stop people from picking them ever again. If the party was evil, perhaps they'd wrangle up some prisioners for the sole purpose of making them use the items.
they actually did an experiment like this with monkeys and a banana.
It worked so well that after some moving around, they had managed to just brainwash the monkeys into never touching the banana, even though they didn't know why ^.^
My friend group would still pick it up
“We were only able to stop him after killing the player.”
Pft, yes not the character they literally had to kill the player out of game. Geez these curses are intense!
The pearl clutching Christians of the satanic panic were right!!
Uhmm why not run? How about lock him in a room, some kind of trap perhaps?
You gotta show the DM that you mean business.
@@mattturner8556 They may not have had the spells or means to do that. Especially in a low-level game.
DM: Here are items! They're cursed!
Players: No.
Dm.exe has stopped working.
That first DM sounds like the kind of guy to use "it's just a prank, bro!" as a legitimate excuse for being an asshole.
DM: "Everything here is cursed"
Players: "Aight" *stops picking up magic items*
DM: "And I took that personally"
"He literally blew up asking who told "the ⁿ⁻ʷᵒʳᵈ""
N-word™
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How do you superscript? I didn't know that you could do that in youtube comments.
So he get punch in face ok.
@@someeggplant I just used a website from which I could copy and paste to here.
the first story: ho ho! the dm gave us Cursed Items!
the second story: the dm shouted slurs at me and i felt afraid for my life
That went from a silly and annoying story to oh shitthis man is a loonatic.
Fake story
@@Izzmonster hey dude-
Word of warning some people might think you're a soy boy.
I've seen your reply on a different comment and you might start looking pretty sus if you look through every comment and point out smarmy "actually. This is fake, i won't give any actual evidence to disprove the story, other than the assumption that most reddit stories are fictitious in nature."
@@chronotrigger3919 No details and a "0 to 100" story make it pretty unbelievable. No character names, no settings or specific situations were brought up. Nevermind the fact that he expects me to believe this very racist asshole just let him kill his bbeg like it was nothing. Maybe he was just not good at telling stories, but when someone gives no details it a red flag.
@@Izzmonster very valid points, not here to discredit you or the poster, but rather than saying "it's fake" just- add why you think it's fake, so people don't get the wrong message and think you're defending the racist.
I often used Cursed items, but as a part of the lore I built. The more you used the cursed item, the more powerful it became and in some cases the curse would be semi-lifted. Whereas basic magic items only had a set amount of damage
Joke one shots are my favorite place to use random and silly curse. Like a pair of gloves that make so that the pc can't talk from their mouth but only with hand puppets. It became a joke in the group and now when someone it is trying to get the point of across they will talk with their hands. Curses can be fun when not used sparingly and not to completely debilitate a players experience.
That’s so cool
Kind of like that cursed shield in FF6 that would be purified when used enough and could let you cast ultima when fully restored. Big payoff, but you really gotta work for it.
@@Bladehound83 yeah, basically. My ideology was for more power there had to be a price to pay
That works as long as the curses aren’t all about killing the party.
I love it when a DM goes: "I've got a great idea for a campaign...I'm gonna be a dick" 😂
With Jake, I kinda feel for him because I know how rough it is to DM for the first time and get stuck on your specific plan. As a longtime DM, I can see the places where he could have compromised -- "Having guns is fine, but I want to keep this in the light silver-age style, so can we specify that your suit shoots stun-blasters and you won't use your missiles against humans?" -- and I'm sorry his first try ticked off the players so much that they walked out. That said, I'm a little floored that a guy running a supers game can't deal with the villain getting captured in chapter 1. That's the running gag about Arkham Asylum, isn't it? That the inmates seem to be able to just walk right out whenever the plot demands it?
Sounds like a very inflexible person.
Probably just not a suitable DM and certainly not an experienced one.
@@rogerwilco2 I think that's a bit unfair - sounds like plain inexperience to me
Even for the in game characters, you would learn to avoid magical items like the plague if all they did was hurt you so it makes sense from a story standpoint why they would be avoided as well
Really, imagine if you watched one of your friends pick something up and immediately became so volatile that you had to literally kill him because there was nothing you could do to save him. And then watched one of your friends turn to stone and die. You would not touch any more items.
Okay so cursed items are absolutely wonderful it’s just they need a boon as well as the curse. There needs to be some motivation to actually pick up the item, otherwise the curse has no point. Something like a vampiric sword that requires daily meals or draws your blood but if you keep it well fed it’s a very powerful weapon. Or if it is an item that can instantly kill you it should give a boon that would be just as powerful for instance a ring that grants immortality until you are the 13th most recent person to touch the ring. It gives strong motivation to take the ring, for people to try to steal the ring, and then to recover the ring after its stolen. It also gives plenty of time to recover it and I can always simply decide that there haven’t been enough new people touching the ring for a PC to actually die. And actually despite loving cursed items after looking at all of the magic items I have created those are the only two. I have some items that require attunement or they will have an effect akin to being cursed such as the wand that can cast either cure wounds or inflict wounds, but that is simply a net positive once you attune and get to choose.
Yeah, like unicorn blood or Horcruxes from Harry Potter, or the One Ring from LotR
Apparently, the DM didn't understand how cursed weapons worked.
My iteration was a magical sword that would ominously require will saves occasionally when used. Started out just a pretty solid item, but every time a will save was lost, it would increase in power before eventually beginning to whisper directly to the player. When the campaign ground to a halt with ppl missing sessions and real life intruding it had reached the point where it absorbed effects from creatures it killed that could be unleashed at will (think... a powered up smite effect that I could jazz up with fluff depending on circumstances, the guys were HIGHLY amused when it absorbed a wind effect from an elemental & they later yeeted a storm giant from the side of a bridge spanning dimensions)
Was only a few sessions away from it causing the PC in question to go into a party-killing rampage to sate the lust of the sentient weapon he'd been feeding for months. Genuinely think the guys would have *loved* it (especially as the PC in question was the lawful good paladin tasked with ensuring the lawfulness of the party rogue, who was obsessively climbing the ranks of the local mafia)
I was still laying the groundwork for a solution that wouldn't involve perma-death, but getting the balance right so they could figure it out was always a task. A previous encounter had them fight a lich they had ZERO chance against in a straight-up fight but whose reliquary was encased in its own skull (it was being used as a guardian & them destroying the reliquary merely meant it was free to flee the encounter. An intentional lose/lose situation for the party :P) Took them 3 full rounds of blowing everything they had before they even ATTEMPTED skill checks or even questioning me about the description of the room/monster.
I think it makes sense if the downsides also play into the players action. We had a player who decided to murder a dude in cold blood and steal his magic ring later find out it was cursed. There was actually nothing stopping him dropping it and it had some great perks, but it was also haunted by the guy that he killed. It would sometimes give away our position if we were trying to be sneaky or ruin our chances at sweet talking an NPC and he had to make the choice about whether it was worth keeping or not.
The skeleton amulet had potential.
Just tweak it from "attacks the person who summoned it" to "attacks the first creature it sees", and you have a cursed item that you can leverage for advantage with careful use, that can backfire.
The final DM just makes me mad. Why run a game that’s known for player creativity, and going off the rails if you plan to railroad them!?
I was in a supers game with a GM who started off good, but devolved into "this is my story, and I won't let you ruin it for me". He even went so far as to "forget" how our powers worked so he could use his "super cool ideas" to mess with the PCs. Sometimes GMs just want to watch someone play out their script.
so, I came up with a pretty cool idea of how to make that work:
1. Players track down and wipe out part of a relatively minor but still dangerous gang.
2. When they're back at their headquarters, the BBEG tracks them down and fights them.
3. He defeats them easily, and upon seeing how weak they are, tells them to stay away from that gang or they'll really regret it.
See, now the evil guy is introduced and the players got to fight him, without him being defeated or anyone getting shafted.
@@johnp.2267 I love playing Psionic characters, but the railroaders basically turn off my powers completely. Say, I'm captured and levitate a nearby knife to cut my bonds. What do you know? Its dull, the bonds feel and look like rope but are actually adamantium, or a random NPC pulls some ninja shit and snatches it out of the air with their teeth after parkouring through 3 rooms. Hell, one DM actually hated psionics so much that he captured me, and when I woke up I no longer had access to my powers, but there was a spellbook sitting next to me that just so happened to have spells that would equate to the average level 6 mage (my level).
@@johnp.2267 Man, not to boast my ego, but I'm really glad I'm not like that (anymore). When my players suddenly (and for no good reason) started hating the guy who gave them a mission of multiple parts I went out of my way to allow them to join a completely different faction that I had to build up on the fly, even giving them a real option to join some bad guys instead.
I could have done a better job there, but most importantly - my party is happy with how things evolved.
well we must not forget that "Jake" hadn't run a campaign of his own then and also railroading can be fun and even a good thing to learn basic DMing, if everyone is in on it, but that is hard work to make everyone understand that beforehand that it's going to be a railroad adventure
about psionics: First I also had problems with a divination wizard in my DND campaign, because I couldn't figure out how to make use of those abilities like foresight and stuff, sometimes being creative about those things can be hard at least for me, but I figured something out and we're fine. Sometimes things just take time, effort and communication.
"A player should never level up and become less powerful"
PHB Beastmaster: *sweats nervously*
.*laughs in Tasha's Cauldron*
When I started DMing for the first time, I introduced an antagonist deliberately in an extremely weakened state so that they wouldn't instantly kill the PCs. But then it became clear that this antagonist was going to die if I didn't do something to save her. My solution was to have her vanish in a puff of smoke and then spend the next week figuring what power had let her do that.
Had a DM like that once. All the 6 magical items backfired on us. Other itens during quests either were cursed or had a massive drawback. Aside from the magic items being one of the weakest I had ever seem in a table. The DM claimed that it was to add "realism and challenge".
When we stoped picking up magic itens and messing with key items completely (unless they were 100% non-magical and non-cursed) he claimed that it was metagaming and we were "going against our characters". Before that we had debated in character on a tavern for like over half an hour about magical items not being worth it since everyone got screwed over and two PCs died. He got angry and didn't show up at our table anymore after we passed the mantle to another DM
Honestly sounds like your group lost nothing of value.
bro, if everything I touch is cursed, I'm never touching anything again.
That's not metagaming that's common sense lol
I'm trying to figure out what part of "cursed item" is supposed to be realistic.
@@tamasrehany6532 the dm probably thinks grim and miserable is realistic. I mean life can suck now and then, but its not wrist slittingly depressing 24-7.
I'm not surprised. When a dog knows only one trick, don't be surprised when people who aren't interested in the trick stop watching.
If I was the dm of the second campaign, i would be disappointed in my players for not killing the npc sooner
Yeah agreed but then agian we arn't racists with a victim complex
See, I can see using that character in a different way. He hates Drow, is overtly racist to the PC, and maybe the other PCs for being "Drow Lovers", but he is the only person with required info in town, along with being a local hero from some long ended war, so the characters are forced to do his stupid tasks, all while being demeaned, until they can get that plot info. Now, we give them a choice, the racist has given them the info, it would be easy to kill him and just leave town, but if they do this town will openly hate them for killing someone they consider a "real hero" and will hire mercenaries to try to kill them. Maybe they try to reveal how he acts to certain people, and then it's revealed that the mentioned long ago war was actually fought against Drow and he still holds resentment against them for killing his comrades, maybe one of those killed was his brother or maybe teenage son, so that's why the way he is.
Now the DM was a racist, no doubt about it, but this character could have been a good branching point or background info dump for the game, but that's just how I would use him.
The story is obviously fake. Nothing makes any sense.
@@Izzmonster you are trying to make sure that everyone knows how fake a history about racism is, hmm...
Not the history where the DM punishes players with items then get mad at them
The one where a black person suffer racism and deals with it pissing the DM off
@@0Arcoverde lol what? The story has no details at all, and escalates at an unreasonable pace. Most of the other stories provide details that at the very least make a better story. It's got red flags everywhere and stands out.
The story of the racist DM was really weird honestly, he was projecting really hard. Hope he figures stuff out, he seems like he has personal issues :(
It sounds like the racist DM was maybe racist enough to not see anything wrong with the racist NPC.
Sure, he can figure things out. Preferably, though, he could die in a fire.
I thought the exact same thing. Weird to project your insecurities and make a racially vilified character like that off the bat.
I love to give my players cursed items. I do make them interesting though, by making them useful, but with drawbacks. And of course without the Remove Curse requirement, as the players should be allowed to use or discard the items as they please. What they actually do with the items is part of the fun This is just some of the weirdness my players have encountered:
-A ring of invisibility that have a random chance of temporary failing with a VERY loud bang.
-Bracers of armor that creates a storm cloud that constantly zaps you with tiny lightning bolts and rains on your head, making it impossible to hide or sleep properly.
-A sword with very powerful enchantments that has a chance of phasing through its target without harming them.
-An intelligent item with verbal diarrhea.
-A blunt weapon that deals no damage whatsoever except to non-attended objects.
-A "ring of mole-rats" that turns the wearer almost blind, but gives them tremorsense and improved hearing.
-An immovable rod that is LITERALLY immovable, as in can't be used again after it is deployed.
-A "ring of infernal back pains" that increase spell DC of spellcasters, but makes it hard to maintain Concentration checks.
-And of course a bardic instrument that makes the bard constantly being harassed by rats.
In a world filled with magic and wonder, why wouldn't there be spellcasters that was dickish pranksters instead of murderous lunatics? When I play a spellcaster I spread annoyance and frustration to the world instead of death and destruction. It's much more fun playing a dick than a murderer.
A wonderful list of great ideas! My favorite Is the molerats ring, perfect balance of positive-negative effects on my book!
My compliments for your inventiveness, bravo!
Any other tricky items to share after a year? I would love to hear more of them!
Players: Stop picking up anything.
Evil DM: Ragequits.
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Players: Stop picking up anything.
Skilled Evil DM: "You take a breath in and are unable to breathe out. You begin to suffocate."
Players: "wat"
Skilled Evil DM: "You took a breath of cursed air."
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Dang you
Amazing lol
I don't know how I feel about this
me: but im a warforged.
@@TheBronf "Oops, it seems you're cursed too. Your arms randomly flail outward to smack anyone nearby."
“I’m the only black person in he group and we lived in the south”
*oh no*
Live in the South. I have absolutely known people like the DM.
As someone from the south who's not a raging racist, my first thought was "aw hell. another asshat makin us all look bad."
@@DeadRobit29 Same
*OH NO*
@@omnical6135 Roger Roger
One early campaign I was running, a character was in a covered wagon, searching it while the rest of the party was questioning the driver.
The searching character was worried about a chest being trapped, so he used his sword to lift the lid after picking the lock.
In the chest was a cockatrice the owner was smuggling, and it surprised the searching character.
The character saved versus the petrification, but fumbled his sword (we were playing in Rolemaster) and in falling back, drove the sword into his own skull, killing himself.
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The party heard the ruckus, and discovered the character who had just split his own skull with his sword.
They assumed that the sword was at fault and buried it with him (they were only second level and had no ability or funds for restoring life).
The sword was NOT cursed, the players knew that (great players!), and in fact was the best magic item in the whole party. But the characters had decided that only a cursed sword could have caused what happened.
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The wagon driver was let on his way, with the smuggled cockatrice still in his wagon.
"The fuck your feelings crowd sure is having a lot of feelings"
That dm in a nutshell
To show how the third story could have gone right and still been interesting, I’ll use an example from my first session.
So, my players were crawling through a freshly made goblin cave. The tabaxi druid had gone ahead to scout since she had the highest dexterity and proficiency in stealth, coming to a corner after seeing a large group of goblins fleeing the party, who were slaughtering the ones that tried to fight them. She saw a large goblin barking orders to a smaller group, however the group was much too small to have been the full size. She makes a perception check, gets an 18, and sees a small crevice a few meters in front of her. Peeking in, she sees the rest of the goblin group waiting in ambush to jump the party from behind while the other goblins acted as bait. She then signaled the ranger to initiate combat, and the sorcerer was able to take out most of them with a high roll of burning hands once they had all funneled into place after the initial shock of their ambush failing. The larger goblin managed to escape (because I don’t play my goblins and kobolds as dumb creatures), but they managed to overcome what would have been a truly tough situation. The only real high health and ac character was the cleric, and the others (artificer, sorcerer, druid, ranger, and bard) would have been easily damaged during the goblin surprise round.
Reward your players with information, and let yourself be rewarded for how they use that information to beat you at your own game. That made me proud, because before this campaign she really liked to go ahead and do things without thinking too much at first. It was great listening to them formulate how they’d get around the ambush, and how they decided to work with each other.
Something I've noticed over my time playing, as a player and DM/GM, is that players don't like having their agency taken away.
...calls player a slur.
gets mad about people "making him politically correct."
yep, that checks out.
Only thing that annoyed me, was the "south" part. The stereotype of a racist south is crazy. Maybe back in the day, but the "north" especially the northeast is terribly racist. Hell, I spent a decade living in VT and I dealt with racism almost daily there and when I visited NH, NY, PA, and ME. Wasn't just the subtle racism, but the flat out aggressive racism. I've heard the same from tons of other minorities that were from up in the Northeast. I'm here in the south now and the only racism I ever see is a minority on minority racism.
@@aznp33nRocket I live in WV and can confirm, the east coast in general is really awful.
@@MidoriMushrooms see at least the northeast can blame their anger on the snow. I got tired of shoveling a driveway all winter. I'd be angry too! But alas, it just seems odd that many of the people mocking the south, refuse to see that ita just as bad up north. I think the world has a nice equal distribution of dickheads.
@@aznp33nRocket my family just shoveled 5ft of snow out of our driveway, those people really don't have an excuse lol.
but yeah america has these problems everywhere, I do at least think the north has the marginal improvement of not having robert E. lee statues aggrandizing the confederates for "historical purposes" though.
@@aznp33nRocket agreed, I think a lot of it comes down to exposure to other ethnicities and how remote you are when it comes to prejudice in general. I think a southerner living in Atlanta will probably be less racist than a northerner living in the middle of bumfuck nowhere (more commonly known as northern Maine). It's easier to hate someone if you never really see them and all you hear about them are based on stereotypes and alleged "agendas".
Best fun we had with a cursed ring:
_"You take the ring and wear it, you feel nothing out of the ordinary, it feels cool. The other companions turn around to see a skeleton wearing the fighter's armor and sword and looking down at its hand with the ring he picked up. What you guys do?"_
The fighter stayed as skeleton probably fora whole year until the ring began to 'fail' oh and the fighter-skeleton could only be healed with magic missiles and he could also leech levels off his friends who touched him.
Good times.
This is a bad DM the consequences for this ring would lead the player and players not able to enter any towns. Would cause conflict within the group. Seems not very thought out
@@mattturner8556 My players back then would disagree. They had fun, I had fun. Win/Win.
Oh they got annoyed when they lost a level trying to 'help' him remove it but after that it was quite an adventure and I remember it fondly.
@@mattturner8556 Some players like challenges and conflict in their game about overcoming challenges and conflicts.
@@Volvandese I get it. But to be a skeleton for a whole year...seems pretty hard to navigate, weird character choice to do that too. I mean would anyone choose to look like that? As well as leeching levels doenst seem to be very co-operative, I would imagine the players wouldn't want to be seen with a skeleton and the risk that he would constantly bring to the party, let alone trying to navigate to any town, or Inn or anywhere!
@@mattturner8556 wear a helmet :)
Racism in D&D, depending on the setting makes sense, for instance, elves try to run your drow out of town because elves and drow hate each other or a town that is constantly fighting orcs not trusting your half-orc. They took it a bit too far with that NPC.
Yep
I mean it’s pretty obvious the DM didn’t make that character for anything like that. He made him literally just a target the only black guy in the group and to express his real life ideas. That shit had nothing to do with the game.
7:42: A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.
NPC: I'm going to kill you because you're a drow!
Player Character: Okay, I'm gonna kill you then. I don't want to die.
DM: Stop being so PC! Also, I'm racist AF.
He’s the type of person to think being pc means you’re against racists, there’s a huge difference in being politically correct (where some sound minded people see it as really toxic) and being respectful and logical, if my dnd character or me or my friend is dealing with a racist I’m dnd or irl we’d give him a piece of our mind, or in dnd attempt to stop the person wanting a teammate dead cause of race
@@DragonKirby with what people say political correctness is about, I'm overall fine with. How people go about it is my problem. Because some people just go way overboard and basically become they the they seek to destroy.
@@slydoorkeeper4783 Anything political is just nonsensical idealism born from the madness of mob mentality. The DM thought he was above it, but he was being just as political as anyone who acts "politically correct".
Definitely a fake story
This is pretty much what I thought. Racism and other kinds of "deliberate values dissonance" are just world-building tools which are fine to use... but you have to be a special kind of stupid to not, y'know, realize that whenever you have a victim or target, said victim is PROBABLY not going to approve.
But hey, you get people who only care about the backlash, not their 'crime'.
y'know, i actually do quite like the idea of running a darkest dungeon like campaign where all the powerful magic items have a negative trade-off. realise thats not what this DM did, but just brought the thought to mind
Exactly, it's about the trade-off. There needs to be some reason why the PLAYER would want to use the item, not just the character being subject to compulsive mental effect. The times when a player uses a cursed item, knowing (or suspecting) the down-side, but in a desperate enough situation that they think it's worth it? Very dramatic, very awesome, and most importantly, hinged on player choice. Making them use something that does nothing but kill them, so you can laugh at them? Stupid.
Me : enjoying DMing and playing DnD with my Friends for now more than 3 years without an issue.
That dude in the video : *let me tell you about that One Time I actually feared for my life in DnD*
Damn you guys have no luck
This 1'st DM sounds like the kind of person that would turn into the killer from SAW but without any motivations for it beyond enjoying watching people suffer.
I don't play DnD but I find listening to you read these comforting to listen to in lock down. I feel less lonely in this very lonesome time. Thank you for the content.
If you’re going to do a cursed item, you have to do a curse that’s two steps forward, then one step back. Like an axe fuses to your hand but you get +2 on combat rolls. You lose a lot of your dexterity abilities but then you’re better at everything else and it makes for an interesting story.
I feel you could seperate cursed magic items into two groups, "Trap items" and "Trade off magic items"
The dm of first story had used up until that point only what i call '"trap items". the items are things that aren't really practical, and more used as a form of trap or punishment for the player. these items are interresting in moderation, keeping players on their toes, and telling them that not everything is meant for the PC's in mind, BUT should be used VERY sparingly, and to much and you risk the situation in this story.
the second magic item is what i would call "Trade of items". these items do increase the power of the party, but have some downside or risk attached to them. These are things like the 'deck of many thing' (extreme example) and the 'gambler's blade' (a blade that gives you a +1-3 to your weapon, but make your death saves worse by 1-3). These are risks, but not totally useless, so they may want to use them. But as a dm you want to make the benefit worth the risk, otherwise that item will go to waste. besides that, you want not want to use them to much.
And that is the key of good cursed items, and that is moderation. if you give these items too much, the best scenario is that your players don't trust every item or you and be suspicous of every item, worst case they don't use any items, because they are risks.
you want players to interact with stuff you place infront of them, so making everything a trap is going to rappidly make them paranoid. You want the players to trust you, not reading into everything you place infront of them, because that's not fun for everybody, and one of the most fun things i think you can have as a DM it that players are excited about the stuff you place infront of them.
I always make RNG trap/super good magic items or trade off ones that have powerful buffs and trades. Also troll items for a good mix.
I once included a "cursed" (quotes because it can be unequipped like a normal item) weapon in one of my games. It was possessed by a demon, making it exceptionally powerful, and it would even level up with the player. However, the demon would constantly bombard the user's mind, and if you failed the will save it would occasionally force on you, the demon would temporarily take control, leaving the user with no recollection of what happened when they regain control.
I once made a variant of a weapon from Crypt of the Necrodancer. A Glass Sword. When attuned, It acted as a +5 magic long sword, made entirely of glowing blue glass, understandably very powerful. One shot two enemies back to back next encounter. the drawback he found out next turn however was the moment the wielder took damage, the sword explosively shattered into mundane glass shards. (Also taking 5 flat damage as the glass hilt he was holding also shattered, shredding his hand with glass)
There is a middle ground, where the item is useful and does make the PC stronger, but the curse is more detrimental than the item is beneficial. Examples of this include things like Craven Edge from Critical Role, or some of the Symbotic items from Ebberon. These items can spawn incredible story arcs when used correctly, but can sour a game when used incorrectly. If the curse is bad, it can’t affect the player at every moment, only presenting itself when a specific trigger occurs.
@@ArmegeddonCraft i feel that craven edge was closer to a trade off magic item, than a truly deprimental item. The item can be handled, but the players didn't simply know the full extent of the curse, till they got rid of it.
But the middle ground is usually very difficult to pull off, since players tend to get rid of these items, unless absolutely necessary (like when it is like a important to the plot, like the one ring) or they don't understand the consequences of using the item. And what makes a middle ground item is also pretty subjective and depends on what a player would consider a risk/hindrance. One player could argue that the deck of many things is like a middle ground item, because there it's just as likely that the deck takes something away, but for a high level party, who could handle the consequences of some of the cards, they could consider it a tradeoff.
Just binged critcrab all week (going back so far as to when the bgs were Neverwinter and the audio was.. well not like this) as bg noise while doin stuff and was like "man I wonder when his next one's goin up" then bam here we are, so stoked.
Ahh yes, I remember fondly the days before I knew about Craig and didn’t associate airships with questionable bonding experiences. Also: “That’s no island ...”
"I'm the only black person in the group, and we live in the south."
Oh... Oh NO.
Ooowe, this gonna be gud
[grabs snacks]
DM was prolly mad that his mom wasn’t giving him sloppy like she that week lol
Honestly didn't see that line as the problem. I've ran games in the south and had a mismosh of several types of people. (I think my favorite was a player that actually rolled a 5 Int and rped a person that only knew one word for their language, "Kitty" I think it was) I've seen similar GM's up north and here in Alaska.
@@michaeltalley2283 it wasn't that line, it was that context with the forewarning of "extremely racist" it's just too easy to see whats about to happen.
@@Gamespud94 heh, yeah that's true.
Note to self: It could be a really interesting dungeon if every item has a minor curse on it but the curse is balanced by a magical effect.
Or using curses as a high cost high reward item. It brings strong consequenses but is also hella strong itself
Sounds like Discount Dan's Mildly Magical Items! Every item does what he claims it does, and has some significantly inconvenient curse tied to it. None of them are sticky, so it's entirely your own fault for using/wearing them. My personal favorite is the Sword/item 'of warning' that warns *everyone* of any attempt at an ambush made within a couple hundred feet of it. Absolutely will drive the party rogue insane, but sells for a lot to paranoid nobility.
The racist DM was just....wow. sometimes, stories like that are r/thathappened but I've *seen* DMs like that before.
So he good for 40K got it.
@@mikecampos1193 I doubt you've played 40k or know what the player base is like.
While I agree he was racist trash... Isn't he kinda right? Last I checked Drow were racist sexists who regularly enslave others and worship a goddess of evil. They kinda do need to die. And yes I am aware there are good Drow but while a few bad apples spoil the bunch the reverse in NOT true. Always find it funny when people want to take racism out of the lore of a fictional world. If he wasn't a real racist I might of sided with him.
@@blancfan1 I think everyone agrees that in-game racism is good outside the writers of 5th edition and their new pink-haired target audience.
My favorite race is (was) half-orc. A lot of interesting stuff there before the powers that be decided we can't handle rape babies that are treated poorly by society despite not being inherently evil like their heritage would otherwise suggest. Half-orcs made for sympathetic villains and great heroes once upon a time. Now they are just ugly humans that are unrelated to both humans and their namesake.
Obviously fake story
Kind of reminds me of a "cursed" magic item I made once: The Ring of the Immortal Berserker. Can be active for up to 10 minutes a day, which can be divided up into 1 minute chunks, however it will be active for the full minute. During this time, the player will regenerate 1/4 of their health per turn, but if the total hitpoints exceed their maximum, they must make a fortitude save = 10+excess life or die. The player I gave it to was happy to recieve it, knowing the effects, and managed to use it effectively in boss fights, which is why I always promote the idea of dangerous in excess for cursed magic items.
I’m just remembering my “Zanthian Steel Longsword,” which added six to your AC specifically against attacks with ferrous objects (the metal moves itself between its wielder and incoming threats detected magnetically). It was an amazing weapon until someone came at them with a wooden gun.
@@dashiellgillingham4579 "wooden gun"
you mean Slingshot? X"D
one fourth of their hit points per turn so 2.5 times their health every time they used the item? how do you mitigate the regen?
@@finalfantasy50 if they healed more than they're health maximum, they had to roll a fort save of 10 + excessive damage or die, and it had to be active for the full minute even if you didn't want it to, so if combat ended after 5 rounds there was a high likelihood you would die from that.. it was designed to be a last resort against enemies that would one shot them otherwise, a "If i die, I do it fighting" kind of thing.
Racist DM: “why did you kill him?!”
Players: “We kill racists.”
Racist DM: 0.0
Being a murderer is way worse than being a racist.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 I'm extremely racist and best my murderer father in almost everything....never assume....
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 not in dnd
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 And being a racist murderer is way worse than being a murderer.
He had it coming.
@@thefracturedbutwhole5475 imagine playing defense for racists
In the 4 campaigns my group has done (we're relatively new to dnd) we only had one time where items were cursed. The curse in question was akin to wild magic, now it was not wild magic but similar as if we rolled a nat 1, it would activate with something like 50 possibilities I think. You could end up suddenly casting fire ball with no magical affinity, or you could just suddenly spawn gems worth random amounts of gold. This add some spice to campaigns, made for some "oh fuck" moments and was an over all fun mechanic. We only used it once sadly.
I feel the fact that he used a racial slur was enough. That alone is always bad. It's really that straightforward everyone--don't use racial slurs.
hey all you people! If you're seeing this before its buried, i hope you enjoy any sessions you have next week, ok i'm gonna go watch the vid
:o
@mr.wendigo discord and roll20
@mr.wendigo Online games my friend, playing with your group on discord or even joining a game on roll20 are great ways to play without, y'know, getting and spreading the murdercold
Me, who has a D7D session in 5 minutes: Surprised Pikachu Face
@@7to607 GET READY AND EXPECT EVERY SITUATION
I like giving my players magic items that aren't explicitly weapons. It helps them be more creative, though at first they didn't get this.
When we started a one-shot that I got to actually play in, we all got a common or uncommon magic item. They all picked +1 weapons, I chose Heward's Handy Spice Pouch. They all laughed until I started throwing fistfulls of Cayenne pepper powder in the enemy's faces and blinded them until their deaths. Then they realized it's all about how you use it
“I’m the only black person and I live in the south”
*So, we all know where this is headed.*
Yup, a fake story.
Had this happen to me as well. The story sounds a lot like it could happen because it DID happen to me twice. It was bad
@@leodouskyron5671 oh I 100% believe it’s real. I’m from the north and I see racist shit like this all the time, the joke was more “oh I wonder how long into the video until the N word comes out.” Honestly, it wasn’t as quick as I thought it would be.
@@carcosanative666 It was more for people like @Izzmonster. It is not fake as a scenario.
@@Izzmonster What's the fastest way to out yourself as an angry white boy in the comments, Izzmonster? :3
7:47 the “o- oh no.” made my entire day.
I 100% guarantee the second story is made up for clout. There is absolutely no way someone who hated black people that much would have let one be part of the group originally.
yo just a heads up, title should probably be changed from “d&d story” to “d&d stories”
Nope, it's fine
@@RiveroftheWither i mean it’s not like a massive issue i just thought it could be changed since the other uploads where he includes multiple stories has it as “d&d stories”
What does a soul burger taste like?
It's that way just because of youtube's search terms
@@futaki20 Souls, probably.
Dm gives cursed items
Players:no we don't want any more
Dm:surprised pikachu face
It really upsets me when we see stories that have no real resolution, revenge or lessons learnt. Just arseholes being arseholes and getting away with it
That's life.
Stories like this make me weep. There are sooooooo many ways for creative DMs to deal with situations like this on the fly.
Players killed the BBEG early? Have one of his henchmen revive or reincarnate him. Have one if his henchmen take over and become even worse than the BBEG. Reveal that what the players defeated was an avatar or Simulacrum with only 20% of the villain's power. Have the BBEG's son or clone take revenge a couple of levels down the line. There are just so many options...
Hey...If that axe just fused with one hand that could be an interesting gimmick for a character. "Sir you must dispense all your weapons before you enter the building" "I don't have any weapons" "Sir you have an axe in your hand" "The axe is literally my hand" "Oh...."
"We were only able to get him stop attacking after killing the player"
"The *player*"
meaning they were forced to kill a party member, or be killed by the blind rage pc, damn
I saw the crab, I saw the title and now I'm hooked
Pinched*
Welcome to the community
There’s a way to include racism in your campaign that allows the players to tackle it in any way they see fit, either by diplomacy or death.
Then there’s 2nd DM.
One thing I like about critcrabs titles and thumbnails is that they aren’t misleading
“Haha! Everything is cursed!”
Is something you say in session 0 or in the background of the campaign. AND give the players a way to deal with or remove the curses.
Killing BBEG'S is the most PC thing there is, though! (Player Character)
The whole focus seems to be on the DM having fun at the players' expense (*insert Nelson's HA HA*), and doesn't understand why the players aren't joining along. You might say that this is a mean DM, but he also seems like a very socially clueless one.
On that point about regression, in D&D 5e before a somewhat recent errata that makes it so you gain a minimum of 1hp per level, if you had a small hit dice and a negative con modifier, you could lose health when you level up and even potentially levelling up to have 0 hp RAW
Another one I thought of was that WOD Mummy game where you actually got weaker as you got more conscious control over your power. There's a reason nobody played that.
would a zero hp value make ou immortal?
Lol. My Dad used to play DnD and he played a dwarf fighter. He picked up a cursed belt of giant's strength. He ended up with a intelligence of 3. he basically became the hulk. He also got to be able to fly later when a party member accidentally used a ring of wishes.
First story: An idea taken too far, but not one to be abandoned. Give a narrative reason for the curse and a way to lift it within a session, and BAM. Evil demon sword fighting for good! Pretty metal.
Second story: Can we appreciate the irony that the Wizard took over as DM?
Third story: Another way to handle that super villain situation would be to let it happen. Have him bust out of jail later and try for revenge later, or have his capture get the attention of a bigger, badder super villain. Either way, the party gets a victory and sets up events down the road. Cool of him to order pizza, though!
If you only gonna give me cursed shit I'm going to use my fists and my birthday armor, my clothes and weapons can't be trusted
in a world where everything is cursed, the monk is king.
Reject party balance, return to monke
first guy kinda sounds like he's only playing to have fun on his own way and not together with the party
1:00 So, like... the actual player? I mean, I'm all for immersion but this is too much! Lol! Seriously, though, what did this DM think was going to happen? "Oh, look; it's some loot! Surely it won't be cursed this time!" It's like that person who always tapes a thumb tack to their hand every single time they give someone a high five and then wonders why no one wants to give them a high five.
Been watching your videos Crit Crab but have never been able to play but of my close friends who was DMing had asked me to help her make Mpc's and custom items to help build her Halloween themed campaign. This lead to the creation of my favorite cursed item I had made. (BTW apologies for any spelling errors I can't spell)
It must be said that I was 14 and she was 15 and we were both heavily into Five Nights and Freddy's ,so we couldn't resist putting at least one item from the games lore into it. The item itself was an old tattered teddy bear.
The lore I made for it was it was the only girt/ friend of the BBGS dead daughter who was abandoned and died alone trapped in your typical haunted mansion. When she died her spirit joined with/ possessed the bear. When I say possessed I mean she didn't gain control but the toy became sentient and inherited a more violent version of her personality/ will. So her cries for attention manifested itself in the bears ability.
The bear was found in the girls room and would latch itself onto the first player that viewed it. (It would move on its own when no player was watching and couldn't be physically hindered or harmed. The only way the party could get rid of it was to either purify it or if its holder died.
The curse meant that from sundown till sunrise it must have someone constantly watch it or it would transform into a 7 feet tall vicious, tanky unrelenting killing machine of a mini boss that had no physical form. However, it had no ranged attack and could be out-ran by the party.
A way I tried to prevent a party kill or to try prevent the over abuse of a high level MiniBoss that would attack anything in its sight (I.e enemies) is that it couldn't kill players or MPCs and would leave them on 1 HP, but could leave them with a range of mental debuffs/ physical scars or at worse loss of limbs.
In exchange for always leaving the party on edge every session, it granted a strong one time ability per user (that party wasn't made aware of ) were if its master would die in combat, its mini boss form would spawn and save its owners life, leaving them on 1 HP if necessary (say if they would be stabbed or would die to fall damage but not poison or age), it would fight to the death who or whatever tried to kill its master. If its master would die or survive, its ownership would then switch to whoever next laid sight on its toy form and could chose the same user again and refresh the protection.
The GM: [Is hyper racist]
Also the GM: [Allows a black guy in his game]
These people who make up stories about fake racists have clearly never actually met one in their lives.
I ain't gonna even touch that second story for how stupid that "DM" is
Hell I'm probably using more brain power writing this than they've used their hole life
Its a fake story
@@Izzmonster you'd hope so with how zero to 100% it went
@@Mr.winlock I mean, think about it.
The BBEG said something racist so I killed him. Just like that. Ludicrous
@@Izzmonster I think in the story that was post or mid battle dialogue
The bit that I'd say makes it sketchy is why would someone that racist have a black guy in his game and how was this the only story to come out of it
Like you'd expect the racist GM to have done dickish stuff throughout
Though I can see some bad GMs pulling a move like this and being all "why did you kill my evil necromancer who was explicitly genocidal to your players race. He wasn't that bad a guy"
If anything the sketchy part is how zero to 100 on the racist scale the dude got
Like hell he dropped the N bomb quickly
@@Mr.winlock Yes exactly. My point was that he just let him kill the BBEG with seemingly no fight. It could've been combat dialogue but we aren't given any context.
"Until moral improves the beatings will continue"
Recommendation for Cursed Items: have the items have a set number of charges or uses and then once used up they break. Players can add charges by making a sacrifice like hit points, a temporary negative to a skill or ability score, or to an extreme they can't be healed normally.
The benefits of doing it like this:
-Players get access to cool magic items earlier.
-Smart Players will be more conservative with the items abilities.
-DM can give cool abilities without too much worry over the items breaking the game for the players.
-If players form an attachment to particular items and what to keep them around you can make it a quest line for them to improve the items and minimize or nullify the cost.
Or. Have cursed items do fun and silly things that are harmless ^_^
Another option is to make the item more powerful than your run of the mill shit, but have it be equally as detrimental. I once made a weapon that was possessed by a demon, and the demon made it extremely powerful, but it'd make you occasionally take a will save and, if you failed, your consciousness would be thrown in the back for a few minutes while the demon took over.
@@ebonslayer3321 perfectly balanced... As all things should be.
The skeleton item is actually pretty useful. You could use it to trick your enemy into summoning the skeleton and killing them.
It's unexpectedly creative.
i think a cool idea for a cursed item, would be a sentient cursed gauntlet that over-time could progress into a full suit of armor that would eventually take over the host, but with good will saves you can halt or even regress the curse to the point where you make the gauntlet your own and can have the full suit without fear of being taken over
That DM was projecting hard, the player never said that to him from what the story told. So that was all in the DM's head...
A rule to dming and fighting a war is the same "no plan survives 1st contact"
Hope everyone is doing well today.
Oh, and lets avoid politics here plz.
ey, not doing too bad
hope the same goes for you bud
Nah actually
Just found my roommate had covid sooo... This is gonna be a fucking RIDE
@@AwesomeTiger267 yo uh...honestly, that's kinda crappy. Sorry. Hope that whole thing goes down well, best of luck
Oof
@@notanalien5496 why thank u
fun idea for a cursed great axe, you can cause it to send you into a rage, attacking anything nearby, making will saves to snap out of it, but while in a rage, all attacks deal double damage with advantage
This is the kind of DM that ends up with an entire party playing Ross Leiser's Accursed class for it's immunity to cursed items