The Trial of the Meep | The Star Beast | Doctor Who
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- After escaping UNIT and the Wrarth, the Doctor senses that something isn't quite right with the Meep's story...
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Moment of silence for fallen heroes. Sergeant Zogroth and Constable Zreeg. May those two rest in peace🫡
😔
They will be remember as victims of The Meep, and honored for their sacrifice once The Meep is brought to justice.
True if it wasn’t for that then possible the meep would have escaped without the doctor being able to take it into custody
They were good chaps.
They did their duty with dignity and honor. Let them be received in their afterlife with full commendation.
The Meep being evil was kinda obvious, what i did not expect was for the Wrarth to be so wholesome.
I got that the Meep was probably evil when the doctor said "Either we've escaped or we've gotten it horribly wrong" but I didn't see it coming beforehand. I was wondering for a little bit why they'd cause all that devastation (which, it ended up not being that much) for a fur coat.
It’s interesting comparing the special to the original 4th Doctor comic, the Wrarth in the comic tried to turn the Doctor into a bomb for aiding The Meep
Kinda prefer this version
I didn't have a clue until the trial- I don't think they did a very good job at all of setting it up. The Wrarth sounded like typical gruff henchmen, and they pointed their guns (which we didn't know at the time were stun guns) at an innocent child in their first appearance. Then suddenly they're speaking with polite upper class accents here.
Honestly I was dumb and really believed the meep. Then after the reveal thought the Doctor should’ve put up barriers for both
I thought the Meep was just another cute thing that wasn't going to be evil tbh.
The Meep was voiced by Miriam Margolyes. What a treasure she is.
She's such an icon for this omg 😭😂
I was waiting for her to drop an F 💣 when Meep revealed their true nature and you could hear the change in her voice. She probably did by accident when recording the dialogue knowing her! 🤣
Got to give credit for RTD and the production team for being able to prevent Miriam from swearing for just an hour 😂
Lol love her❤
2:27 That was the smoothest cute-horrific transition I have ever seen. Kudos to the Vfx team
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It's the teeth. Sharp like daggers, and just as threatening
I think its more in the eyes. They go from being round with large pupils to more of an angry shape with small pupils.
@@sgb5584nobody cares who isn’t already on your side
@@HarperLyliait went from a physical puppet to vfx
First, we had The Trial of a Time Lord.
Now, we have The Trial of the Meep.
So when are we getting “The Last of the Meeps?”
Surprisingly not in 14 episodes. Dragon Ball Z would be impressed.
or perhaps the "Day of the Meep"
@@dwaugh2215 oh yeah, or “The Meep Dances?”
How about the Meep
meets the Raod Runner.
Meep Meep.
It was nice hearing the Doctor invoke the Shadow Proclamation again
Sometimes, I wonder how powerful and expansive it is when this happens. And what position the Doctor holds in it.
He invokes it, and the Wrarth IMMEDIATELY goes into a peaceful stance.
@@danielhaire6677 He has quite a high position due to the amount of times he’s saved different universes, planets and life form’s including the SP main base and everything and everyone on it. There’s a scene in one of the opening episodes of the 12th Doctors seasons ("The Magician's Apprentice" I think it is) Davros sends Colony Sarff to find the Doctor and he somehow manages to break into the SP main base and they protect the Doctor by claiming “they don’t know where he is!”
(They always know where the Doctor is) just like he’s considered “President of Planet Earth” by Unit, he’s held in high esteem and regard by the SP so has a very high position because of all the good he does (and probably because he saves them a lot of work and paperwork by doing the job for them without him realizing it! 🤣)
The Wrarths are probably the only alien species that read the memo that The Doctor guards the Earth, and prepared accordingly.
I like them better than the Judoon.
@@Fixtionmaster101 Would love to see the Wrarth and the Judoon interact. A kind yet decisive police force of mild mannered green bug men vs the corrupt and overly brutal instution of police brutality that is the Judoon. Would be a fun juxtaposition
They seem chill and pretty smart, felt bad for these 2
@@bobsempletank5362 I would describe them less corrupt and more DW's version of the Judges from the Dredd
More corrupt in a moral sense I suppose
“For i am the Beep of all the Meeps!! 😈” is a criminally underrated and hilarious line
'OH TO HELL WITH THIS!'
Miriam Margolyes is a treasure.
And she's having ever so much fun.
If Miriam had her way, she’d have the Meep say, “OH FUCK THIS!” instead knowing her 😂
She couldn't come up with an alibi
I love the implication between this and the classic series episode "The Stones of Blood" that the Doctor just ALWAYS has a barrister's wig handy on him in case he suddenly needs to do something like this.
I’ve always wondered if the Doctors pockets are bigger on the inside especially during Classic Who as the Forth was always pulling something weird out of them.
A wig and a salt cellar.
@@donsava9272David Tennant as the 10th Doctor confirms that in the episode he first MET Donna, "The Runaway Bride"! (It was an ongoing gag that Donna, in a wedding dress, had no pockets. When the Doctor deactivated the robot drones used by the Empress of the Racnoss, he says "Do you know what I've got, Donna? Pockets!" And whips out this massive, clunky control module. An incredulous Donna responds: 'What?! How did THAT fit in there?!" To which the Doctor answers: "They're... Bigger on the inside...!"🤣
@@thephantomspectator407 This, and I think it was somewhere that Time Lords learn how to "magic satchel" things in Time Lord school XD
None can escape the Megara!
What I really loved was that the particular of the guns not leaving a single mark on the taxi was so noticeable, I thought it was a mistake on the set. I felt great when in this scene, the doctor pointed it out as a proof.
I literally could not tell that The Meep was voiced by Miriam Margolyes until it let the mask fall and she did it's "evil" voice 🤣
That's what good voice acting sounds like. Like Mark Hamill voicing the Joker in animated Batman media. You don't know unless you know beforehand. Scooby-Doo and guess who has him voice the Joker in the pilot, then a fictional version of himself. He goes into his Joker laugh when he says, "Oh, I have my sources... eheheh-HAHAHAHA!!! So-sorry, got something caught in my throat there..."
my favourite detail of this episode is the fact that the Meep is entirely a puppet until the reveal, that just-slight uncanny valley transition is so subtle yet so effective at selling the reveal
edit: i was wrong please stop sending death threats
That’s pretty cool. Using the puppet to sell that the Meep is some sort of helpless creature that can’t do anything on its own, then use the CGI to *animate* it into its true self: a very capable monster.
Edit: Yes, I’ve read the replies below, but I still like how the hybrid use of VFX makes you consider if the Meep is some push around puppet or more that’s just waiting to attack you for being stupid.
This isn’t true at all. A CGI version of the Meep was used when it is running, and the face was always enhanced with CGI.
The same still applies when the Meep is evil, they had an evil version of the puppet and they fine tuned it with CGI.
According to the behind the scenes/unleashed and episode audio commentary CGI meep is used several times up to the point of the reveal. The eyes are often CGI and there are several instances of running where the meep is full CGI prior to the reveal - one of these can be seen at 0:24. But it’s such a masterful blend of puppet and CGI it’s so hard to tell.
@@pinzokiyama3387I would say its more than a puppet as it’s also got a movement artist inside the costume before and after the reveal/switch from innocent to evil( 2 separate costume heads). The Meep’s hands for example are Cecily’s ( the movement artist) actual hands, reacting to being poked in the eye, or who operating the spaceship controls, and can walk in the costume, all while the 2 puppeteers are controlling the ears ( one puppeteer) and the other controlling the mouth etc.
The fact they also made an animatronic head for evil meep and then covered the whole thing in cgi, disappointing when you compare it to the cute meep, which wasn't covered in cgi
Who else just LOVES Judge David Tennant?
We love every David Tennant 😉
We love every David Tennant 😉
I do not think there is any version of a Tennant Doctor that we would dislike.
David Tennant makes the best judge Doctor Who.
@@Fixtionmaster101 Tom Baker IMO is the Best Doctor Tenant I rate at second best 🤔
Everyone is talking about 2:27 sudden face expression of the Meep, but the shot at 1:43 - 1:46 is worth to take a note. The "oh sh*t* face" when the Meep's true nature is slowly exposed.
And 0:50 where he looks at the Taxi and squints his eyes slightly when Donna looks to see it's not damaged.
@@adamstewart9052 Nice giveaway. You have a sharp eye.
Agreed. You can almost see the Meep starting to realize that The Doctor is suspicious. Once the truth is revealed, The Meep decides there’s probably no talking its way out of this, so it decides, fuck it, and drops the act.
The amount of energy David Tennant has the moment he realizes he's getting his way is absolutely intoxicating gods help me I love this mans acting.
It was a nice touch when rose shook her at the meep insulting her, because she knows her mom won’t stand for it.
Good point! My guess was it could've been her reaction to the line "weird child', which in context has transphobic connotations.
@@danielchin6130I don’t think it was transphobic as Beep doesn’t have a gender. I think Beep just found her weird as a person due to how she behaves and what she does for her job
@@mrcritical6751first time I was watching this I thought the meep was being racist or something
@@mrcritical6751Yeah, this is it. The Meep just thinks Rose is strange because of her stuffed animals lol
Same@@mrcritical6751
Tbh the Meep has to be the most honest politician I've ever seen.
I will always be grateful that beep made the jump from extended universe to the screen, more of that please!
The Meep reveal still gets me LOL. 😂
At the beginning the meep was so cute but it went from..
"MEEP MEEP" to "which shall I eat first " what a funny doctor who villain😂
Hope the meep comes back! Given how they hinted "wait until you meet my boss"
Yeah that would be great to see his boss.....MEEP MEEP 😂
They truly made the meep a unique two sided character. You truly believe and wish to believe the meep is a kind-hearted creature that is under attack but once the evidence is presented along with other testimonies in a trial fashion, just like in real life, the meep shows it’s true colors and let’s down its facade that made it likable to begin with. It’s sad and scary but it goes to show not all things and people are as they appear in this world, or any world beyond our own.
My only thing is I have learned from those little blobs of fat that to never trust the cute ones
@@rookhousestudios1666Adipose love that episode
@@rookhousestudios1666 Honestly, the Adipose aren't evil, all the ones we see are children. It was Mrs Foster's methods which were villainous (and even then, she didn't exactly intend to kill everyone in London at first, she just wanted to keep passively harvesting until the quota had been reached. The Doctor finding out her plans forced her hand)
I always get a kick of seeing the Doctor just whip out random stuff from their coats 😅
"Let's throw the word psychedelic in there, kids love that word" - Russel T Davis
Psychedelic
•denoting or having an intense, vivid color or a swirling abstract pattern.
"a psychedelic T-shirt"
@@JaxdoesArt @jacksonsilverstein6102 The real definition and origin of the word = "producing expanded consciousness through heightened awareness and feeling," 1956, of drugs, suggested by British-born Canadian psychiatrist Humphry Osmond in a letter to Aldous Huxley and used by Osmond in a scientific paper published the next year; from Greek psykhē "mind" (see psyche) + dēloun "make visible, reveal" .
Yes clueless soccer moms started using it to describe tie dye T shirts at some point, but nobody was calling Salvador Dalis, Van Gohs, or Picassos "Colorful abstract, swirling" paintings "psychedelic" before the term was invented, and it was invented to describe something completely different.
It's pure cringe how they used it here.
In fairness, the colors were pretty psychedelic.
psy·che·del·ic
/ˌsīkəˈdelik/
adjective
adjective: psychedelic
relating to or denoting drugs (especially LSD) that produce hallucinations and apparent expansion of consciousness.
"psychedelic drugs"
(of music, especially rock) characterized by musical experimentation and drug-related lyrics.
"a psychedelic cult band"
denoting or having an intense, vivid color or a swirling abstract pattern.
"a psychedelic T-shirt"
noun
noun: psychedelic; plural noun: psychedelics
a psychedelic drug.
I think it checks out
"You stupid woman with your weird child"
I love the Meep for this roast 🤣
I love that the writing of doctor who always treats the audience with respect. Obviously we noticed that the plasma guns didn't make a mark on the car. But rather than gloss over it like a bunch of action movies with car chase scenes doctor who weaves the explanation into the story and used it as leverage to reveal who the meep actually was
Absolutely fantastic scene 😂 got both a chuckle and a gasp, even though I predicted both things, the Wrarth's posh accents and the Meep switch up
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The wrath have posh accents??
@@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621 Charles Dance: >intense twitching< _"First off... I am not _*_posh."_*
Was the psychedelic sun a callback to "42?" I always thought that story underrated.
The Wrarth Warriors Were So Great With Their Posh Accents And Their Mannerisms.
Of course the Meep is evil. No creature could really be that cute-looking and innocent - also I knew of the Star Beast comic beforehand.
The Meep is actually the hero of the story!
Dark version of ET
I read the original story. 4 and Sharon
Cute looking? Every tooth is pointed and sharp.
Evil cute is still cute. @@r0bw00d
May Constance Zerg and Sergeant Zogroth rest in peace.
they got ther place in Sto-vo-kor and are one with the khala
I love the idea the doctor is carrying this wig around waiting for the perfect moment to use it
Tom Baker used it previously
@@fayesouthall6604 makes it even better
@@fayesouthall6604 I wonder did he keep it in his coat all the time with all the regeneration
His pockets are bigger on the inside
"Oh! To hell with this! Exhibit C! No stun guns for me!" 2:28
Never call a mothers child weird
True. The only thing scarier than an intergalactic super-villain is an angry Mom!
Especially when it's true.
David said every time he took the wig off his hair would flop flat and his on set hair and makeup lady was groaning 😂😂
To be fair, the hair and makeup lady often has to do something that's supposed to take an hour in about 10 minutes between takes. If there are a lot of takes and she has to keep redoing his hair over and over, she's going to get bloody sick of it! xD
Miriam Margoyles did an amazing job as the Meep
I REALLY LIKED WHEN THEY WERE SHOTTING CAR, AND IT DIDNT HAVE ANY SCRATHES, I THOUGHT IT WAS A PRODUCTION MISTAKE, BUT WHEN I SAW THIS SCENE AND WHEN THEY EXPLAINED IT, NICE
Dude, check your caps lock before typing.
bravo
3:36 i love the face david makes here 😂
0:22 Let's be honest, Meep's run was the best part of the episode. ❤
Don't let the meep's cuteness fool you.
The Meep looks like a furby mixed with a gremlin
The Meep started to sound more like Miriam Margolyes (who voiced the Meep) when she turned evil.
Love how this is simultaneously an adaptation of Doctor Who magazine comic while also being a bait-and-switch where you think The Meep is going to be Doctor Who’s version of Grogu from The Mandalorian (cute alien that they can make tons of merchandise on) only for the reveal to make The Meep more akin to a villainous Star Wars character like Palpatine
I get the feeling RTD did this specifically as a response to Grogu. He was saying "not everything that's cute and cuddley is good".
meep one moment : meep meep
meep the next: NO STUN GUNS FOR ME JUST DIE
He's so me
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@sgb5584
HAIL TO THE MEEP!
ADDRESS THE COURT!
David Tennant Ace Attorney
No way..
The judge is too clever
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I knew who Beep the Meep was going in and was waiting the entire time for this heel turn
Best moment of this Who era so far. Amazing❤
I’ve never felt so betrayed lmao 🤣
I'm the beep of all the ****ing meeps
Now I'm intrigued by the "living sun" concept.
It was shown before in other DW episodes
Burn with me!
@@DarknessTheNightFury yeah, I remember that.
@@neurokith And also Akhaten, I think?
I don't think Akhaten was the same thing, it seemed like a separate military thing to me but idk
@@briang.2218
The Meep was so cute - until it wasn't. A great twist!
I actually read the old Doctor Who comic this was based on… it was nice to see the idea brought to life!
All hail Beep the Meep.
HAIL TO THE MOST HIGH
I knew all about Meep but all my children when we watched the episode fell in love with the character and couldn’t understand why anyone would want to ha*m such an innocent thing, until this scene when Meep reveals their true self. S-cared the 💩 out my husband and all six of our children with our youngest set of twins saying “Sh00t it, quick!” I almost fell off the couch laughing watching all their reactions and feelings change in the split second Meep does! 🤣 I knew it was coming at some point because I’ve got the original comics still. They don’t want one in the house now. Thing is our house is like a personal collector’s museum there’s going to be multiple versions when/if they do decide to release Toys, bears, figures etc… of the character.
The Bugs s-cared them more even after its revealed that they were the good guys, they don’t want any of them in the house either. They’re all gonna get a Meep for their bedrooms as well as the living area and my office.
Also seen people whining about the upgraded Sonic Screwdriver and saying that it shouldn’t have all the extra things it can do added to it! Have they not been paying attention to previous episodes and Doctors going all the way back to Tom Baker? The Doctor has repeatedly made comments and reminders to himself and the TARDIS that it needs upgrading with extra settings because it never worked on wood when it was a life or de@h situation and the only thing that was in the way was wood in some form! It’s literally one of the last things 13th said to TARDIS before her final showdown with the Master. She told the TARDIS to add a wood setting, so it would make sense that she (the TARDIS) would add other settings as well on top of it being able to work on wood now to help the Doctor if needed and they wasn’t anywhere near the TARDIS.
I personally like that it’s got even more settings, it saved the Doctor’s, Meep’s, Donna’s and her whole family’s lives by being able to create the panels for them to get upstairs because the TARDIS wouldn’t have shown up due to the hos-tile action that was going on at the time in the house and on the whole street! Or has people forgotten about all the Doctors saying it needs more settings especially one for wood? 🙄🤦🏾♀️
The Meep's change to evil was quite similiar to Gollum, especially those pupils.
That was one of the best bits of the 60th Anniversary trio in my opinion, the way the Meep just switched from for weak n feeble to evil in a click of fingers was stunning work
Watching this again, I remembered that episode of Tenants, he’s met a living sun before. Some humans were trying to harvest it for power and they got hypnotised from it.
Much better episode than this one
11 met a living sun too, actually.
In fact, this is why I thought he should've immediately recognized solar psychedelia the moment he saw those soldiers' eyes.
@@DoctorWhoKage From the Doctor's perspective, that was over a thousand years ago.
This is my favorite scene from The Star Beast
Can we get an F in the Chat for Sergeant Zogroth?
F
So glad I can catch up the series!!
I actually thought the Meep was Innocent boy was I wrong
Had me fooled too, mate! 😂
Jesus Christ has died and risen again so that everyone that believes in Him may be saved. We are to repent of our sins and believe in Him so that we may have salvation after death. Read the New Testament of the Bible for more information.
Learned that lesson watching Thundercats as a kid.
I told myself I watched too much Owl House if I thought the cuddly creature wasn’t the bad guy. Thankfully I was as cautious with it as I was with the shapeshifters and the reality bending puppet master.
My friends and I were joking about how funny it would be if the meep was space hitler.
While it was obvious from the get go that Meep was gonna be evil it still brought to mind that one quote from Galaxy Quest: "Yeah sure they're cute now. But in a second they're gonna get mean. They're gonna get ugly somehow. And there's gonna be a million more of them."
As a lifelong Doctor Who fan (44 years and counting) I'm afraid I have rather a shocking confession to make.
I quite enjoy the taste of pears, actually.
I had one last night and have a tin in the [larder]
YOU WHAT
Get Out.
HOW DARE YOU? 😂
I had never heard of Beep the Meep before this episode. I gotta say, I was fooled, but good.
Meep was scary but the dolls in the giggle were scarier
I love how the Doctor just pulls a wig out of his coat.
I think it's a reference to a Tom Baker story called the Stones of Blood. He pulls out the same wig during another "trial."
I was expecting Pingu with those sounds
zogroth and zreeg are adorable😂🥺
Loved this scene
Jesus Christ has died and risen again so that everyone that believes in Him may be saved. We are to repent of our sins and believe in Him so that we may have salvation after death. Read the New Testament of the Bible for more information.
@@sgb5584i get that you’re trying to spread the message but this is just spam
Someday some form of media will shock us all by having the cute cuddly small tiny thing actually be good instead of some horrific evil. "
*looking at you Kirby!*
cue the Ewoks.
The Meep episode reminded of Gremlins. Cute and adorable until they switch to be evil and vindictive.
The Meep kind of reminds me of Cartman
You know things are getting serious when he busts out the wig.
It's horrifying how in one second that cute little face turns into a demonic evil one..
I love that the voice actor for Dexter's dad got to be in here as those locus men haha. Can't remember his name but love his voice!
Obey the Meep!
I love how the Doctor just has a powdered wig in his jacket. For no reason. And we've all gotten so used to his weirdness, no one bats an eye.
When this scene aired, I completely forgot that the meep was evil as I was shocked and speechless😂
,but It was a great scene anyway. The transition from cute meep to evil meep was smooth and brilliantly edited.
Brilliant twist. Even I was fooled by The Meep’s apparent innocence.
Your turn, the Meep. Witness for the defense. So, what do you say?
Imagine if off screen the doctor thought ahead of time to add a barrier..
"Oh I dare~" I like the evil Meep
The Brain: The same as always, Pinkie. Today we take over the WORLD!
Meep: Today, I destroy all life!
The Brain: WHAT? WHAT? WHAAATTT?
The Brain: I could work with this. Destroy everything and then build my glorious empire. Partners, Meep?
@@danielhaire6677 Earth mice are delicious and nutritious. They supposedly taste like chicken, whatever that is.
David Tennant is My Favourite as The Tenth and Fourteenth Doctor in Doctor Who 👍
"The alien's name is Meep." *Looks at Phineas and Ferb*
Of course he has a barrister's peruke in his jacket pocket. Wonder if he has a gavel, or would the Sonic have a setting for that...
I hate that those brave soldiers had to die because the Doctor stopped them.😢
Why would rose be considered weird by the meep when rose was the first human the meep met? Shouldn't everyone else be considered weird by the meep by being different to rose
The Meep is just being mean because the Meep got the impression that Rose was sensitive about people considering her weird. Also, the Meep probably saw all the dolls of aliens.
That was the writer’s way of saying that only a maniacal white star beast would think that Rose was weird.
I'm assuming it's that Rose makes toys. I mean how many other 15 year old girls do you know who run their own Etsy shop?🤔
I was under the impression The Meep was being transphobic.
I thought that meep was so cute and he'd fooled everyone!
*Soldiers of The Psychedelic Sun* is getting used in a song. At the very least, the title of a song.
I've already got loads of DW references in my file of lyric ideas, including Carionites and facing the raven.
But Soldiers of The Psychedelic Sun sounds so cool. In fact, I've had an idea for a track that I haven't figured out how to make yet, but that will be incorporated into it.
THIS is why I have trust issues
you ever hear the tragedy of dark meep the mad
While I really like this twist, I think a better one that fits the story of both sides is that there were two Meeps. One corrupted by the Psychedelic Sun, the other was immune to the Sun and/or they were born off world while the Sun went mad.
The reason the Bad Meep wants the Good Meep dead? Either because a cure to the Psychedelic Sun's madness could be synthesized from the Good Meep's DNA or the Bad Meep sees any Meep that don't worship the Psychedelic Sun as heretics who should be put down.
The Wrarth Warriors chase and shoot down the wrong spaceship, causing the Good Meep to misunderstand the situation and giving the Bad Meep plenty of time to gather an army on Earth.
The reason why there are only two Meeps left? Because the Bad Meeps killed the Good ones, while the Wrarth Warriors then killed the Bad ones.
That the Meep was actual evil I kinda saw coming but not the sudden court scene with the wig. :D
Watch the old Classic Who episodes. It has happened a few times before. All these specials have had throwbacks to old Who stories.
when I first saw this i didnt see that coming but it reminds me of what aggie Cromwell from Halloween town said to her granddaughter "in town some of the ugliest nastiest looking creatures are actually the nicest most gentle creatures in town but unfortunately the opposite is true the lesson dear never judge a book by its cover"
Wow, the voice actress for the Meep was fantastic. Just loving being as evil lmao.
Miriam is a treasure
2:26 that transition of cute to evil your cat goes through when you're about to pet it
That's how I enter every party I go to:
"I am the beep of ALL the meeps, motherf@ckahs!"
This is why I both loved and feared my furby as a kid. At first it was cute and adorable. After I thought the batteries where dead. The damn thing would talk to itself.