She Murdered Her Mom & Stuffed Her In A Suitcase Yet Regrets Nothing: The Murder Of Sheila von Wiese
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- Опубліковано 18 лип 2023
- During the early morning hours of August 12th, 2014, an exhausted woman rang the lobby of the St. Regis Bali and requested a 10 am wake up call. The woman was Chicago socialite Sheila von Wiese-Mack, and just hours later, a taxi driver would find her body stuffed in a blood-stained suitcase outside the posh hotel. What police uncovered was a diabolical yet halfwitted plot carried out by her own daughter, Heather Mack, and her boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer.
Timestamps:
2:53 - Who was Sheila?
9:10 - Mother/daughter problems
26:11 - Trip to Bali
38:35 - The arrest
47:01 - Sentencing Tommy & Heather
1:19:09 - Custody battle
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I love Kendall saying the episode number!!! Plz don’t stop 🥹 Team Ep. 1000!
i love it too. it shows how far they’ve come, and for people who have watched them since episode 1.
1-1000 let’s go!😊🤍
Same !! Especially because they are so humble !! ❤
Yes 🙌🏼 it’s not cringe saying the episode number. The number isn’t even in the title 😭 or description. At least say it in the episode.
YES KEEP UP THE EPISODE NUMBER!!!
I love it too!!! Bring it back!! 😂
DONT STOP KENDALL FROM SAYING THE NUMBER 🤬
🤣🤣
Yeah!! We want the number 😂
We need the number!!
i second this
The episode numbers, make your channel different, and easy to remember and go between content
Please don't stop with the episode numbers. It's definitely not cringe. It shows yalls success, how far you've come, how much yall have accomplished since the bedroom😂 But seriously keep up the great work. ALL OF YOU MAKE A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!
This !!!^
The number also helps me keep track of which ones I’ve watched and which ones I haven’t 😂
Yal statments r ridiculous!!
I am a silent viewer but I came here from Spotify to tell Kendall I love her.
I love hearing how many episodes you guys have done, especially as I’ve been here pre-podcast. I’m proud to admit I remember when Kendall did makeup 😂
And Talk Tuesdays😭😭😭
And that's exactly why no one will try the scandinavian prisons style in the rest of West (and East?) Europe and the USA/CA too. For better or worse. I do think Drug addiction should be cared for better and first and not be thrown in with the cattle where people are happy to be "rotring in prision" .
Or her astrology videos
I think the rehabilitation idea works for criminals in prison for drug charges or theft charges or other non violent crimes. Burt in my opinion if you take a life (not self defense) maliciously that person doesn’t get a chance to live their life and neither should you.
Thank you. I feel the same way but always assume I'll get ripped apart 😅
Agree
@@LetsSingTheDoomSongery😅
Absolutely you're done and can't be fixed
Agreed. And someone who doesn’t feel bad for murdering someone else can not be rehabilitated imo
As a Canadian whose cousin was brutally murdered in Canada I struggle with our laws sometimes. My cousins murderer walked free after serving 6 months in a healing lodge. I advocate for the use of healing lodges but 6 months was a slap in the face to us all. My cousin was 16 when he was killed at a house party and the guy was released due to good behaviour so he could spend Christmas with his family. I can remember thinking what about our family? He got out and then wrote a rap about the murder….. Karma came for him years later after he was stabbed by someone else which I think was the first time some of my family felt that closure for a while. That being said - to Josh’s point that families should decide, I completely disagree. Families are emotionally vulnerable, don’t need to live with that decision weighing on them and your sentencing weighing on how much the family empathizes with you is an unfair risky game. That being said, I do think that if families wish to partake in the parole hearing, I think some of these “found god” people should have to answer questioning from said family and judges should value their input.
Thank you for sharing your story, very important and educational
I am so sorry that happened to you and your family. You make a good point about the family being involved in the decisions. It's so tough and complicated, I'm not sure what the right answer is.
Its crazy in Canada. I worked with a guy who's brother had a fight with his girlfriend. He later walked up to her house, and when she answered, he shot her in the face with a shotgun. He was charged with First degree murder. But hired Eddie Greenspan. He ended up getting a plea deal for Manslaughter, sentenced to 10 years. He was released 7months later, as pre-trial custody is double time. So he was actually locked up for 31months. He ended up becoming an executive at Ford a few years later, lives in a huge mansion in East York
Canada’s progressive government is so fucked up. Trudeau and his cronies always side with criminals over decent people.
My cousin was murdered execution style while washing the dishes. Her killer was under the influence, served his 17 years and now walks free. It is beyond terrifying, 100% unjustified, and just purely awful. To know he took a life and didn't give the rest of his still baffles me. Also, he got more time for the drug charges related to the murder than the actual murder itself😡
Kendall and Josh, we ❤ you for covering these cases.
So sorry to hear about your cousin, may your family find a little bit of peace everyday 🙏 sending you guys positive energy
@@sassywasthebestcat thank you so much love♥️
@angrob22 when you're under the influence of some pretty hardcore stuff, you're not in your right frame of mind. He likely didn't realize what he was doing, though there is no excuse for it.
So sorry to hear about your cousin. That's actually insane he got more time for the drug charges than the murder charges??? Wow...
@MileHigher He did, sometimes I don't understand the justice system at all. He's out now, and I do hope he's turned his life around. It's the least he can do for Ashleigh!
Also, thank you♥️ I've watched your channel for a long time now and I'm glad you're bringing cases to light, solved or unsolved.
Keep saying the episodes Kendall. Not cringe, Josh and Janelle. It's comforting. I enjoy the short clips intro, but the episode number is comforting. Don't change that.
It’s unbelievable to me that people have received the death penalty for possession of drugs and these 2 psycho killers got “rehabilitated” and then extradited back to their home country… I say they both should have faced the firing squad- but that’s just my opinion…
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Nah, do you know how many innocent people get the death penalty? We should not be vying for more of that. The onely people I think should get death penalty is a convicted child r/pist
This right here! I literally refuse to go to Bali because of this. I realize that other countries (including ours) do worse but there's something about Bali.
I agree. I think her pregnancy and status took firing squad off the table.
@@voidedsoupnot Murderers!? Ok
I think what is missing from your conversation about rehabilitation is the world in which they are being released into. In the US, it is difficult to get a job with a convicted felony and those released would be more likely to commit another crime due to their lack of income, stability, and safety.
This!!
I agree. From what I’ve seen and heard from felons is that people rehabilitate themselves, jail or prison does not help them.
That's a very good point!
That in itself is a crime!
And they don’t deserve to get anything ever again. The victim will never get half the chance of anything again.
Such a pointless death, and beyond that, extremely disturbing. I cannot even FATHOM their mindsets?? Especially Heather's.... how can you do that to your own mother?? Her audacity is incredible. Sheila did not deserve this :(
Seriously... pure evil.
Sometimes mothers are not angels and can drag their own kid to think about killing …my mother is poisoning my life,controlling me even I have a kid and I am 26 ,she think that she is god that she decide how I live for her I am always miserable human and after all this abuse she is crying into my face and telling that she wants the best for me
@@Marie_Livar I hear you :( I am very sorry that your mother is treating you in that way. You deserve better. I understand that there are toxic/abusive parents out there, sadly. However I don't understand the behavior and brutality that Heather exhibited towards her mother, especially in this specific situation. There are many other paths besides murder.
Don’t get involved with n words
Just starting this episode - stopping in to say I actually love hearing Kendall tell us what episode we are on! It’s a journey man 😎
I like the episode numbers Kendall!! It actually helps when you are binge listening , helps you know how fr back we are talking about. LOl
I hope her daughter will grow up to shun her and hate her guts but instead of being murdered I hope she has a long life to suffer with that fact. Glad they took all of her money away
I didnt get to that part yet. I'm glad they took her money away I just commented on how unfair it was
It's actually heartbreaking that her daughter has to learn that she has a psycho killer mother. She could have had a loving grandmother.
I literally just wrote a similar thing that would be the ultimate karma for the psychopath mother.
She didn't lose all the money. She still has access to her original trust which is how she's buying things in prison
My heart aches for her daughter omg that poor baby I hope she gets far far away from her mother
This case makes me so sad. What I would do to have my mom back. She passed away from a heart attack four years ago and this girl just offed hers for no reason. 😢
So unfair and upsetting 💔
I am so sorry. ❤
I’m so sorry to hear about your mom ❤️
LET KENDALL SAY THE EPISODE NUMBER! We all love it 🫶🏼
petition to have Kendall continue saying the episode number 😂
It will take 14.6 years to get to episode 1000 if you do a show every single week without missing a week!
And we will be here for every one ❤😂
Am I showing my age by saying 14 years goes by in a flash? ❤
Thank you for mathing for us ❤️❤️❤️
Please keep saying the episode number Kendall I love it !!! It is not cringy at all!!
My uncle was hit and killed by a drunk driver, its definitely not the same as premeditated murder but, my grandmother told the man at sentencing that she forgave him. After he served over 10 years she wrote letters to the parole board to help him get out. She even loaned him $50 after he got out. He got his life back together and ended up sending her $500 for helping him out in so many ways. Her forgiveness is something I still struggle to understand.
Yeah my aunt, her boyfriend & a family friends infant was killed bc the man who was driving dosed off. It left other family members injured & ejected out of the car. One was in a coma for a long time & when he woke up had to be told his father died.
I was in 5th grade. That was my favorite aunt I love her so much. To this day I still can’t understand why no charges were brought against him. He’s living life freely and his only injury was to the neck which was solved with a neck brace. He was an older man too probably in his 50s. So irresponsible. I’m struggling to understand why he wasn’t held accountable for killing 3 people. Ugh
I think releasing people early would be case by case basis, dependent not just on how they acted in prison, but their age, the circumstances leading to it, and for me, their behavior before they committed their crimes. A one time 25 year old offender who beat her abusive husband to death after years of abuse is different than the person who violently robbed multiple people over years.
I feel exactly the same as you💯
saying the number isn’t cringey! keep it goin kendall!
Oh my god please don’t stop including the episode number... it bugs me so much when podcasts who have kept it going for +100 episodes just stop 😭😂
Please do not get rid of the episode number ❤️ love that part
I can’t actually believe that Robert ended up with a harsher sentence than Heather who actually did the killing!!!
Got a chuckle when you said Tommy referred to Heather as a “gremlin.” What a sad case, and I feel so sad for all of the abuse that Sheila endured at the hands of her family. May she rest in peace 🥺
In my opinion, she deservesto stay in prison. I do not care what happened between her mother and her, thats not grounds for KILLING her. This is absolutely insane. And poor child of hers ....such a sad and frustrating story.
I still haven’t recovered from losing the intro topics 🥲🥲🥲🥲 KEEP THE EPISODE NUMBER PLZZZZ 🥺🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼 it is iconic at this point, after the “heyyyy what’s up everybody” 🥹🥹
1) I need Kendall to keep saying the number so I don’t have to check 😂
2) Heather is terrifying because she has no sense of guilt, remorse or care for anyone other than herself. She reads as sociopathic and I agree that she is a danger to society
I love knowing what number lol.... When I found mile higher I went back and watched every episode from 1 to current. Then I kind of dropped off life got crazy with kids and being out of school and now I can't remember what number I left off on. Lol so now I know 260!! 😂😂
You need to keep the episode numbers going!!! It’s definitely not cringe!
I remember when this happened!! I went to school with Heather. So crazy that you guys picked it up for a podcast episode.
What was she like
I felt the same when I saw they were covering this! I wasn’t at OPRF with her but I remember when the news broke and everyone around here just couldn’t believe the horror.
Same! Heather’s house was a few blocks from my childhood home and Tommy was in my prom group senior year.
Kendall please continue numbering the episodes !!!
Unrelated but Kendall’s hair is absolute goals…
Definitely
Kendall is right! Keep the numbering of the podcast. So nice to hear it each week and know how long I’ve supported the Chanel
WE STAND WITH KENDALL! WE WANT EPISODE NUMBER ACKNOWLEDGMENT!
Literally the moment kendall didnt say the number of the episode I immediately felt "something is off in the universe...the intro is different.." haha i say keep the number! I think it's cool and it helps me keep track if ive seen the episode or not:)
Damnit Josh! I love her saying the numbers. It helps me keep track to. Kendal, ignore him, keep telling us!
Ive watched you for many years and I will be here for episode 1,000 ❤️
As a new mother myself, I cannot fathom the reality of someone killing their own mother how horrific and disturbing
Just imagine having to watch your back while on vacation with your own child. 😢
I love it when they say the episode number that is such an accomplishment! Every time I’m like wow they’ve done so many! So cool!
I think the numbers at the start are great. It's easier to refer to the episode when searching.
My 26 year old brother got killed by my sister ex husband and he only served THREE YEARS. I always think of it being as not only did my brother lose his WHOLE life but everyone who loved him loss OUR WHOLE life without him😔
20:08 - 20:40 really made me uneasy, I think it gives you a clear idea of who Heather is. She’s so matter of fact about how calculated and sinister she really is, almost proud in a way. This statement alone makes me believe that she should be behind bars for the rest of her life.
Heather's confession video reminded me of Elliot Roger. Both of them are/were vile examples of a living, breathing meat sack. This is just auch a sad story all around. I only hope Stella ends up protected and does receive her inheritance.
I love that Kendall and Josh can have different opinions and continue to have productive conversation, you can tell they have a super healthy marriage ❤️
The intro doesn't sound right without Kendall saying the episode number
the only thing cringe is them trying to tell kendall what to do smh
Yep
Well, they are a team… she’s not alone in this project.
@@michim.2452 don’t give af, they didn’t need to tell her it was cringe bc it wasn’t.
Lmao you guys are weird for getting so mad 😂😂😂get a life this is just UA-cam
Keep telling us how many episodes we’re at, I like to keep count as well:)
Please don't stop saying the episode number! Makes me realize how many I've watched 😂
Keep saying the episode Kendall! Don’t let them dull your shine! 😂😂
WE WANT THE EPISODE NUMBER !!!
I'm team Kendall on the episode number 😂 why not say it though?! ❤
The episode numbers are very useful when trying to go back and rewatch anything, pointing people towards specific videos, etc. So it's definitely gonna be weird for a while 😂
On the subject of sentencing. The UK has a usual life sentence starting point of the minimum term of 15 years that can then go higher with aggravating circumstances . It's very rare that anyone gets a full life tariff. I think we currently have under 40 people serving that sentence at this present time. I wish we had harsher sentences for the worst crimes committed. Great episode as always. Oh and keep saying the episode number please
nooo dont stop kendall from saying the number
Will always love the respect and sympathy you give to the victims and their families ❤️ love the podcast and you all!!
Thank you so much for your support!
I don’t want the episode count down to stop!!!
When it comes to the rehabilitation discussion, I believe a necessary part of being rehabilitated when someone commits a heinous murder is accepting that they do not have the right to a life anymore. Accepting the consequences of their actions, even if it means their entire life behind bars, even if it means the death penalty.
All of these psychopathic murderers who claim they’ve changed and are rehabilitated are always seeking to be released back into society. That’s not change. That’s selfishness.
I love hearing the number. Reminds me that I have a few to catch up on.
Tommy was my brother’s childhood friend, we grew up in Chicago and he lived on the same block. Tommy slept over and everything but I was super young and don’t remember much. Crazy.
My sister was shot and killed (she was just a passenger in a car wrong time wrong place) in a road rage incident, the driver got shot in the arm my sister got shot in the chest and she didn’t make it. The guy who killed her only was charged with shooting into an occcupied vehicle and will serve 3 years. It’s a sad world when the justice system fails you
ps) the fact that they got a shorter sentence for KILLING SOMEONE and drug addicts are served with death...just shows how twisted this world is we live in. addicts need rehab, not KILLERS
Heather is a psychopath that should never be set free. Chances are her father was a sociopath at the very least. It's crazy and disturbing how these traits play out in families.
I’m team SAY the number!! Y’all have been getting better and better. And I love it. It makes me smile every time because I remember when y’all started it.
Don’t stop saying the episode!! Us OG listeners love knowing how long we’ve been around
I came over from spotify just so i could comment that I love hearing the episode number ❤❤
Kendall saying the episode number is tradition. It also gives me weird comfort knowing the number 😂 don't get rid of that please!!
I love the episode numbers!!
Whoo🎉hoooo! Followed Kendall for 10 years !! So happy to be here for a monumental episode!!!! Congratulations 🎉
i love hearing the number too!
You should def keep the count going
Love hearing the episode number 🥹
Keep the episode number in!
Saying the episode number is the only way I know if I miss one 😢😂
I LIKE THE EPISODE NUMBER!!!! vote to keep 😃
The number helps me keep track because I started listening out of order for YEARSSSSS
I've heard this story before... but wow, you added so much more info, love mile higher!
I take so much comfort in the episode number. You guys started the podcast when I was pregnant & it was a very rough one, I listened to every episode because I felt like I was with a sister & brother in law. My son is 5 now, he knows the intro music and loves Mia Kendall! 🫶🏼
I love kendalls energy!! We will be here for episode 1000!!! 🥳🥳
I'm team episode numbers!!
Let Kendall say it! Say it loud Say it proud!
This is one of the first cases ever I couldn’t finish listening to and had to fast forward thru some parts because it was so cruel what heather did! Great coverage on the case 💜
Team episode 1,000 I LOVE to know what episode we’re on 😢
I love the numbers!!!!!!! 😢
ALWAYS listen to your gut, if you are this afraid leave while you can. You don't have to stay in such a situation. ❤❤❤
Having a psychopathic partner and daughter must be devastating. Women still aren't taught enough how to spot abusers. I sometimes get the feeling that abusers are loved more than actually loveable good people.
idk if its just me but the new intro style trips me up every time
Yessss, me too
I need Kendall to say the number! If the numbers aren't gonna be in the titles or thumbnails anymore, I need Kendall to say it!
IM OBSESSED WITH KENDALLS ENERGY IN THE BEGINNING!!! I definitely needed that!
This girl went to my high school. I was between sophomore and junior year when it happened and it was sososooo hard to escape conversation about it.
my brother had freshman english with her (they graduated same year) and idk what he means by this but he says she always gave really murdery answers to questions?
I love knowing the number! Not cringe at all lol
Team let Kendall say the ep number!!
As a daughter AND a Mother. This makes me so sad. 😢
😢
There was a murder of a teenager girl where I live. The two people that actually murdered the girl were a couple and it's widely known that Sarah was the one who wanted her dead, but her boyfriend went along with it willingly. They both got life in prison. No one can make you kill someone.
Please never stop saying the episode number!!!!!
I feel like a person can definitely change and be a completely different person after taking someone’s life BUT they still need to pay the consequences of their actions. The victim does not get to come back and live again and they shouldn’t either.
Love when you all say the episode number. It’s not cringe to me.
She is absolutely selfish. I feel bad for the child being raised in prison. We know the child isn't safe 😢
Her daughter was only in raised in the prison for a brief period of time before a foster family that her daughter loves and adores started taking care of her. Heather was going to try to get her daughter back once she flew back to the States after being let out of prison in Bali, but that didn’t transpire because she was immediately re-arrested once she landed at O’hare International Airport a couple of years ago.
kendall ! keep counting down to 1000! ❤ u guys
It seems like Tommy was weirdly intrigued in the idea of committing a murder, like he REALLY pushed for beating her with the fruit bowl. But when he kept asking his cousin why he doesn't feel guilty, I think that actually scared him. It sounds like he realized there was something wrong with him to not feel anything after doing something so terrible, and that's probably why he found God in prison. Regardless, he deserves the sentence, good for him for changing his ways, but you can't undo what's been done
And I think Heather made that whole confessions video to try to get more time in prison, she's obviously thriving, she probably doesn't want to leave. But I definitely think she's way more dangerous than Tommy