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  • @zhugelianges
    @zhugelianges  Рік тому +109

    Summary:
    Charles Barkley: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Jason Kidd: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Shaq: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Westbrook: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Steven Adams: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Devin Booker: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Steph Curry: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Kendrick Perkins: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Scottie Pippen: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Magic Johnson: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    KD: "Duncan is GOAT PF"
    Period.

    • @anko9777
      @anko9777 Рік тому

      Robert Horry...???))))

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому +7

      @@anko9777 Yes, I know Robert Horry thinks Timmy is shit, But WFC what Horry said...

    • @oronasundial
      @oronasundial Рік тому +8

      He's the greatest ever post jordon. Not just p.f.

    • @markescario3389
      @markescario3389 Рік тому

      Scottie Pippen got so bored in the chat room.lmao

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 11 місяців тому +1

      DUNCAN isnt even a PF:...

  • @clipside4823
    @clipside4823 Рік тому +82

    I love charles barkley's honesty... People who watched duncan played knew that his basketball IQ alone made him dominant... Even his defense is mind boggling.. He doesnt jump very high, but his timing, and his knowledge of the game makes him the best rim protectors in history...

  • @Moyski00
    @Moyski00 Рік тому +21

    T-Mac: The Spurs had a well-oiled machine.
    Shaq: Yes, Tim Duncan.
    Bruh that was savage. T-Mac was trying to make himself look better implying that he deserved the MVP more.

    • @diegochavez6203
      @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

      Kobe was 30-6-6 really deserved it he also was the best player in the Spurs Lakers series brought them back from 25 down game 6 until horry missed the 3 pointer . Series easily could have gone to the Lakers .

    • @edwells4769
      @edwells4769 9 місяців тому +1

      @@diegochavez6203 Its a travesty Kobe didn't win another MVP. He certainly could have won it that year and is the only person I would argue for, but Duncan had a monstrous year all around. Consider it a combo of Offensive and Defensive player of the year... which somehow he never won

  • @atbp828
    @atbp828 Рік тому +35

    Shaq's respect on Tim Duncdn is awesome.

    • @edwells4769
      @edwells4769 9 місяців тому +2

      I met Shaq a couple times in Florida. I told him once that I would argue Duncan was a better player and he said, "That's the only person you could have said that I won't slap you for."

  • @TheTlewis3074
    @TheTlewis3074 Рік тому +29

    Duncan won 50games/yr every year for 19 years, never missed the playoffs, 6 finals, 5 rings. Did it against; Shaq, Kobe, Hakeem, Dirk, Lebron. He owned the league for a decade or more. Sorry for all those who want to minimize by saying he had a lot of help but Duncan won without Parker and Ginobli and the supposed great coach Pop is still there. No other great player has done that. That dynasty was all about one player: TIm Duncan. While he was there everything the Spurs touched turned to gold. What's happened since he left?

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      What's your favorite Tim champ and why?
      1999
      Shorten season vs the weak Knicks. I'm impressed.
      2003
      Dirk played in only half the series. Plus you can debate the refs bailed out the spurs vs the 2003 Lakers. Everyone remembers the Lakers getting saved just the year before vs the kings so they let spurs get away with questionable calls. I even remember Marv Albert and Bill Walton calling out the refs. Funny how spurs fans have forgotten about this.
      2005
      What was Tim shooting again? He shot horrible again during the 2007 finals so it wasn't just the Pistons. The short 1999 season vs the weak Knicks and the finales over the weak Nets are the only two FMVP Tim won without a challenge from his own teammates. Yes there's a debate that Manu should win 2005 FMVP.
      2007
      Who shot worse? Lebron or Tim? Yet again The Spurs got saved vs the sun's. Spurs fans will pretend this never happened.
      2014
      Load management and loaded roster to help Tim Duncan. It's ironic some call Tim Duncan "Mr Fundamental" when he would choke at the free throw line in close games. Then to top it off Spurs started load management. You can thank the Spurs for everyone sitting during the regular season now. Plus people tend to forget he choked to an 8rh seed in 2011. Yet Tim fans will pretend this never happened.

    • @TheTlewis3074
      @TheTlewis3074 11 місяців тому

      @@JamesHardenoverKobe So you're saying Duncan accomplished all of that because of the refs giving favorable calls? come on man. I remember them fouling out Timmy as he was about to take over and win the series against the Mavs then putting Dirk on the line every time he passed half court on ghost calls. That's how the Dallas made it to the finals. As for all of those titles you're trying to discount, as I said, Shaq, Lebron, Kobe, were all playing at that time and in the prime. They just couldn't beat the Spurs cause they had Duncan. He was the most dominate player in the league at that time. And he would have won 6 against the Heat had Pop not made those bone headed subs down the stretch and had Duncan on the bench as Bosh got those two rebounds to kick out to Allen. He was dominating that game. I'd pick him over almost any player in history. And win.

    • @TheTlewis3074
      @TheTlewis3074 11 місяців тому

      @@JamesHardenoverKobe don't remember it that way. Refs normally cheated for the Lakers, like against Kings.

    • @TheIcemanthomas
      @TheIcemanthomas 11 місяців тому

      @@JamesHardenoverKobe pathetic

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      @@TheIcemanthomas
      I've seen your takes. Cute. It's obvious I've seen the game longer than you've. With all due respect of course.

  • @TImDuncanallday
    @TImDuncanallday Рік тому +56

    Great compilation for my man, Tim Duncan! Just a quick note, Duncan swept Shaq, Kobe & Glenn Rice in the 1999 playoffs before they won their 1st championship together and subsequently a 3-peat with the Lakers. Then Timmy slammed their door for their 4-peat attempt on his way to his 2nd championship in 2003 and 2nd Finals MVP. That just tells you how great Tim Duncan was.
    His resume is stacked among all time greats:
    - 5x Champion
    - 3x Finals MVP
    - 2x Regular Season MVP
    - 15x All NBA Team
    - 15x All Defensive Team (NBA record)
    - 15x All-Star
    - 2000 All-Star Co-MVP
    - 1997-98 Rookie of the Year
    - 19 Years with at least 50 wins (except 1999 lockout shortened season with 50 total games played) (NBA Record)
    - Playoffs Leader in Blocks & Double-Doubles
    If not for some bad luck here and there, they might have won 5 straight championships in the mid-2000s which would have been crazy. And another championship in 2013.
    Top 5 player in my book!

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому +10

      Thanks for your comment, bro.
      Just to supplement your comment,
      Duncan’s performance shine in the big moments, especially in playoffs, not like those regular season hyped players.
      Here is Duncan’s major advanced stats:
      PER 24.2 (9th in NBA history)
      VORP 18.56 (3rd in NBA history, behind Jordan and LeBron)
      Win Shares 37.84 (3rd in NBA history, behind Jordan and LeBron)
      Duncan also got 164 double-doubles (most in NBA history) and 568 block-shots (also most in the NBA history)
      So basically, stats-wise, at least from the perspective in playoffs advanced stats, Tim Duncan is easily top 10 or even top 5 player in NBA history.
      Period.

    • @MaximusR93
      @MaximusR93 Рік тому +2

      He and Kobe were equals, the best of their generation (I give a slight edge to Duncan because he’s my favorite player ever)

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      ​@@zhugelianges
      People tend to forget Tim choked to an 8th seed in 2011. Kinda funny y'all call him "Mr. Fundamental" when Tim wasn't clutch at the free throw line in close games. Yes even Tim felt the Hack a Shaq effect at times. I Saw Tim's entire career. He's over-hyped.

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому +1

      Dude had a 19-year peak and you gonna say he choked in 2011.
      That’s all you got?
      Ok whatever best PF ever.

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому

      Robinson is a top 10 center ever.
      But not better than Duncan.
      If all you got is choke in 2011, that’s very lame.
      Saved by the league is just cloud shovelling.
      You have no arguments, been reading your comments all over the place and that’s all you got.
      Big L for you.

  • @violetscott5628
    @violetscott5628 11 місяців тому +20

    Shaq wasn’t lying. Duncan was the machine, not the Spurs organization

  • @sbcandmagnum
    @sbcandmagnum Рік тому +10

    Duncan smart, hard worker, coachable, great team mate, tough, dependable unshakable

  • @MaximusR93
    @MaximusR93 Рік тому +28

    I agree with Shaq on 03 Duncan, he literally carried the spurs to a ring. The whole team shot badly throughout the playoffs, he beat Kobe and Shaq, Nowitzki in the West, and beat the 2nd place MVP in J Kidd with one of the best close out games ever. The rest of the squad was a washed David Robinson, older role players, a good Stephen Jackson (in spurts), and Tony and Manu were too young. Of course the big 3 was one of the great consistent cores of all time, but TP and Manu were impactful from 04 on.

    • @delosreyesgino
      @delosreyesgino 11 місяців тому

      And they were not all-stars at that point. TP was great in spurts but Speedy Claxton shows him up sometimes.

    • @johnnier.o.d4746
      @johnnier.o.d4746 11 місяців тому

      wanna hear a story why duncan was on a mission that year ..... there's a story behind it,but I've witnessed it ...... one of the big reasons duncan was on fire that year ......

    • @fartgangtv9143
      @fartgangtv9143 8 місяців тому

      Honestly Stephen Jackson wasn't too consistent, but boy did he come in clutch when it counted

  • @jethrom8935
    @jethrom8935 11 місяців тому +6

    GOAT in PF therefore top 5 all-time best!

  • @darryln6932
    @darryln6932 Рік тому +12

    Dream, Duncan, Bird, Magic & of course MJ (my 5)

    • @atbp828
      @atbp828 11 місяців тому

      Bill Russell should replace Dream.

    • @diegochavez6203
      @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

      Kobe always smacked Duncan but okay lol

    • @peterguidry6084
      @peterguidry6084 10 місяців тому

      ​@@atbp828why?
      Why have someone who was just elite at defense and ok on offense when Dream was Elite at both and is one of the most complete players ever

    • @edwells4769
      @edwells4769 9 місяців тому

      Yep, perfect

  • @houseofsquared
    @houseofsquared Рік тому +30

    Timmy is underrated because he's the anti-thesis to the gods of the casual fans, MJ
    He doesn't trash talk
    He's unselfish
    He doesn't punch teammates
    Which is why these casual fans overrates Kobe.

  • @216marketing9
    @216marketing9 Рік тому +18

    8:14 look at how good of a teammate David Robinson was. Duncan is and will always be the GOAT at PF.

  • @yaboyremo3657
    @yaboyremo3657 10 місяців тому +4

    Shaq legit gets mad when people disrespect Duncan it's awesome to see lol

    • @chrishooge3442
      @chrishooge3442 6 місяців тому

      Shaq was raised in SA. I think he has an affinity for this town. Shaq would never fit in Pop's system. I think he sees Tim for the Pop-era Spur that he epitomizes...quiet, professional, consistent.

  • @puppethound
    @puppethound 10 місяців тому +2

    When you are smart, great at what you do, while still remaining humble, you aren't the best at your position, you might be the best to ever play. One word used to describe Duncan that heard in this video and I know from watching him in college was, he is unstoppable on both ends of the floor. Those are the types of players I want.

  • @Realistic316
    @Realistic316 7 місяців тому +1

    i followed Duncan since his days in Wake Forest… he was so smooth, smart, and talented… and i always appreciated his personality too, cuz he wasn’t a cocky flashy player like so many others

  • @Papaneeks
    @Papaneeks 9 місяців тому +2

    To me the greatest nod in this was from Bill Russel. To hear compliments like that from Bill Russel for Tim, I almost feel humbled on behalf of Tim knowing who that is coming from.

  • @samuelhepburn2636
    @samuelhepburn2636 Рік тому +16

    Bro thanks for putting this together,I've been on a lil mission to put Duncan in the conversation as the Goat for long time,alot of ppl don't realize how great he was,and reading this comments brings joy to my heart ♥, because the real fans of basketball knows what time it is,great stuff.!!!!!!

  • @maximanocturnotv7551
    @maximanocturnotv7551 11 місяців тому +3

    Legendary PF

  • @oronasundial
    @oronasundial Рік тому +9

    Sorta disrespectful he's not just the Greatest power forward he's one of the best ever period.

  • @yngvie659
    @yngvie659 Рік тому +5

    It’s true I would choose Tim Duncan over shack. The only reason is because all they have to do is file shack and he will miss his free throws not Tim Duncan.

  • @davidsonna9502
    @davidsonna9502 Рік тому +6

    The GOAT debate is usually about 2-3 individuals, but there's another interesting & related question, "Which all-time player would you want your team to draft?" The one correct answer is Tim Duncan.

    • @Moyski00
      @Moyski00 Рік тому +1

      Preach it good Sir!

  • @TheJesseGladSaget
    @TheJesseGladSaget Рік тому +25

    TMac was talking real DUMB shit in that segment with Shaq. Duncan was also playing with 0 All-Star teammates that year. Old & washed Robinson, rookie Manu, 2nd year Parker. He was surrounded by role players - you take him off that team and they go from 60 wins (an NBA best) to 30 wins max. I'm so sick of people talking nonsense about Duncan and the Spurs. Only like 0.3% of non-Spurs fans can speak knowledgably about them. All the rest is laughable assumptions

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому +13

      Very true.
      And the 2003 Tim Duncan was one of the greatest peak in NBA history.
      Dude single handedly took a team with 0 all star teammates to the championship.
      But still, people thought Duncan was never the Best Player in the league.
      I assume they thought old Tim is the young Tim?
      What a joke.

    • @TheJesseGladSaget
      @TheJesseGladSaget Рік тому +14

      @@zhugelianges I think the 2014 Spurs became the lasting image of Duncan and the Spurs in the minds of the average NBA fan. They saw the way the "Beautiful Game" Spurs played and assumed it was always that way. Because of that Popovich started to develop of a massive cult of personality following and people got the misconception that he was the lynchpin of the Spurs success and not Tim Duncan. The reality is Duncan was carrying some pretty underwhelming teams up until the mid-2000's when Manu hit his prime ('04-'05) and then eventually Parker a year later. You can't rely on the average NBA fanboy to actually know history tho. Great video!

    • @dvs620
      @dvs620 Рік тому +4

      @@zhugelianges This is the part I was hoping Shaq would make. TMac was like, “I took that team to the playoffs.” Duncan took his team to the title. Without Duncan, they don’t make the playoffs. Duncan’s 2003 playoffs run was one of the greatest runs ever. His Finals performance never gets talked about. Man out up 21, 20, 10 & 8 to win the title. TMac could NEVER affect the game like that.

    • @aedaed3605
      @aedaed3605 Рік тому +2

      I'm pretty happy Tmac never got to team up with Timmy, I don't think tmac would have appreciated him, the rockets would have made it further in the postseason if tmac let Yao dominate more back then
      I like tmac, but he was overrated, tmac had Yao in his prime but wasted it

    • @TheJesseGladSaget
      @TheJesseGladSaget Рік тому +1

      @@aedaed3605 No doubt. Dude didn't win a single playoff series until he was a washed up bench-rider on the Spurs, ironically. He was one of my favorite players as a kid, but for sure is overrated

  • @S.Rocco.S
    @S.Rocco.S Рік тому +6

    21 = Dynasty

  • @kevinlemelle5402
    @kevinlemelle5402 Рік тому +5

    Kobe Bryant gave Tim Duncan a great salute.

  • @josesosa9731
    @josesosa9731 11 місяців тому +3

    Love it !! Go Spurs Go!

  • @cesarquint256
    @cesarquint256 Рік тому +8

    03 spurs: David Robinson avg 8 min per game, Tony Parker was shooting 40%fg with 13 points or so, manu was a rookie who couldn’t buy minutes in the regular season, Stephen Jackson and Malik Rose were the most consistent contributors in the team and in 03 timmy won against shaq and kobe outperforming both, dirk, nash and finley iirc and dominate the nets and put a cuadruple double tmac is wilding

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому +3

      Yeah, and you see how people over-hate Timmy by saying he was relying on Manu, Tony and Dave...They just ignore the fact that Timmy carried a mediocre team to a championship in 2003. Basically ignored. Thanks for supporting Tim, bro.

    • @kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948
      @kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948 11 місяців тому +3

      What tmac said was BS. Duncan on that team he was the only all star in 03. Yet they won 60 games he was MVP and finals MVP. Take Tim Duncan off that team they don't even get close to making the playoffs

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      2003
      Dirk played in only half the series. Plus you can debate the refs bailed out the spurs vs the 2003 Lakers. Everyone remembers the Lakers getting saved just the year before vs the kings so they let spurs get away with questionable calls. I even remember Marv Albert and Bill Walton calling out the refs. Funny how spurs fans have forgotten about this.

    • @kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948
      @kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948 11 місяців тому

      @@JamesHardenoverKobe spurs were up 2-1 when dirk got injured not the spurs fault. Spurs won that Lakers series fair and square cut the bullshit. Also what does any of that have to do with what i said?? My whole point is that the spurs miss the playoffs without Duncan

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      @@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948
      Nope. Spurs were clearly favored by the refs in 2003 vs the Lakers. You can actually go back and hear the game broadcast call out the refs.

  • @MoeJaxon
    @MoeJaxon 11 місяців тому +2

    I totally agree with all your picks

  • @zap7378
    @zap7378 11 місяців тому +3

    Timmy is one of those dudes like Larry that just let his game speak, seriously
    Why talk about how great you are when the greats do it for you?

  • @alonso7124
    @alonso7124 11 місяців тому +2

    People find it hard to be a leader by being quiet. But his leadership was the best of the best, with little to no noise he commanded respect, hard work, team work, commitment, and more. WOW

  • @cesarquint256
    @cesarquint256 Рік тому +6

    Timmy used to get mad when people referred to him as a Center, pop used to joke (in his pop way that people didn’t understand the joke ) Timmy played as a center for the last 10 years, wich was a half true, timmy in defense was so good that he directed everyone and was always in Center position, but nesterovic, thiago, fabricio mahimi, weren’t anything close to a of on offense and he started a lot with them, now when boris diaw or malik or Robert played then he fully played C so yeah it’s a tricky answer, but hakeem played as a pf his first years and he is considered a C cause when he was most successful is in his time as a C, timmy won 2 rings and 2 mvps and 2 fmvp as a pf in 05 and 07 he was a combo C/pf and in 14 he was more of a C but still do a lot of work as pf. His first 10 years are the reason he is a top 10 and goat pf and 10-16 is the reason he is a top 5 imo.

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому

      Very concrete explanation on why Timmy is a top 5...
      2*MVP
      3*FMVP
      15*All NBA
      15*All Defensive
      5 champs
      Enough said.
      Timmy may have the most perfect career among all the players in NBA history.

    • @kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948
      @kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948 11 місяців тому

      Tim duncan was listed as a center for much of his career on paper but look at the games he was always the starting power forward.

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      ​@@zhugelianges
      Top Five? Hahaha!!!

  • @yngvie659
    @yngvie659 Рік тому +5

    Man Shaquille O’Neal is still right though Tim Duncan got the Spurs in the playoffs. I even think they’re not gonna make it this year they didn’t make it last year they didn’t make it the year before that he was there star player.

  • @darryln6932
    @darryln6932 Рік тому +2

    That's right DREAM!!!!

  • @TostiTostelli
    @TostiTostelli 10 місяців тому

    Good job man.

  • @zhugelianges
    @zhugelianges  Рік тому +5

    The footages are obtained from the following channel, credit to them (This Video is just a compilation):
    - YounGala
    - BTM Basketball Time Machine
    - LQG
    - NBA official
    - TNT
    - Pow Salud Project
    - HoopJab
    - NBA Television 8M
    - SpursTubetv
    and more

  • @anko9777
    @anko9777 Рік тому +8

    I am very surprised with Shaq's point on Manu and Tony.

    • @MaximusR93
      @MaximusR93 Рік тому +7

      They were great players, I think it’s somewhere in between Duncan benefiting them and them benefiting him

    • @vikaskumarpatel5017
      @vikaskumarpatel5017 Рік тому +3

      Shaq is right from a skills perspective. From the mindset and unselfishness, nope.
      Just compare Tony Parker to Gilbert Arenas, Chris Paul, Magic Johnson, Russell Westbrook, Damian Lillard etc. Compare Manu to Kobe Bryant, Jodan, McGrady, Ray Allen etc.
      I'm pretty sure, you yourself won't put them in the Top 10 of their positions.

  • @everyday_truth
    @everyday_truth 10 місяців тому +1

    he was a center for most of his career.

  • @dangerouspickle69420
    @dangerouspickle69420 11 місяців тому +2

    Tired of the disrespect Tim is not just the best big ever or the best power forward ever, he is the best ever period.

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      It's not disrespect. It's Tim Duncan fans disrespecting Tina's own teammates just to over-hype one player. Tim had way more help than Tim fans want to admit.

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому

      Who’s Tina?

  • @mannypuj1122
    @mannypuj1122 10 місяців тому +1

    Duncan doesn’t get compared to power forwards, he gets compared to Centers

  • @age3233
    @age3233 Місяць тому

    He is a center. Remember he played his last year in college as a csnter

  • @JDwJC11
    @JDwJC11 11 місяців тому +2

    Spurs would've been a playoff team without Tim Duncan in 2003. They won a championship with him.

    • @jamesfields345
      @jamesfields345 11 місяців тому +1

      False. Stop looking at the names. TP 2nd year, Manu was a rookie David was in his last year. He literally carried them that season.

  • @ernieestrada193
    @ernieestrada193 Рік тому +3

    🐐21💍💍💍💍💍

  • @jacobmoreno7706
    @jacobmoreno7706 Рік тому +4

    Tim Duncan made me a better man

  • @intelligence6900
    @intelligence6900 9 місяців тому

    As a laker fan I remember game 6 2003

  • @justtimes9257
    @justtimes9257 Рік тому +7

    amd people think tim isn’t top 6 all time

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому +5

      And some people in Twitter and UA-cam even said Tim ISN'T TOP 10 all time
      Okay, okay, haters gonna hate.
      We know how majority of people put Timmy in their top 10 list.
      That's good enough.
      Isn't it, bro?

    • @justtimes9257
      @justtimes9257 Рік тому +4

      @@zhugelianges i would say thats fine he top 10 but my problem is that because he did but top tier numbers they knock him but dont realize he was the system on the spurs plus he was the franchise because they couldn’t win before him or since
      he is the bill russell of our era

    • @zhugelianges
      @zhugelianges  Рік тому +4

      Very true.
      Not the system made Duncan, it's Duncan made the system.
      We all know this, Shaq knows this, Perkins knows this, and of coz, Pop knows this.

    • @justtimes9257
      @justtimes9257 Рік тому +1

      @@zhugelianges exactly plus great players are the system like only system that has translated is the triangle but that was jordan & pippen the shaq & kobe

    • @PhoenixAscending
      @PhoenixAscending Рік тому

      I am a Tim Duncan and spurs fan, but I don't know about top 6. I think he is definitely top 10 for sure though. Most people don't realize that he played in a system that was not going to allow one person to score a ton of points night in and out. And they also don't fully realize just how great he was on defense. He made it much easier on a poor defender like Parker, because if his guy got by him, Timmy had his back. It's an absolute travesty that neither Duncan or Pippen ever won a DPOY. If Tim had been an outspoken player on a big market franchise, he would be in the top 5 convo all the time

  • @haroldmccoy6748
    @haroldmccoy6748 11 місяців тому +2

    He's a center ,not a power forward, the only time he exsclusively played the poweforward position was when david Robertson was his teammate ,he played center during the spurs final appearances when they encountered the miami heat ,when the nba allstar game created the formatt of a positionless platform ,it primarily benifetted Tim Duncan who was making several of those all star western conference teams as a tweener . Undoubtedly his elite versatility inabled him the luxury of performing at a elite level at both interior spots ,but the bulk of his career success was as a center ,not a power forward. Bob Petit, Elvin Hayes, Karl Malone,Charles Barkley, Kevin Garnette , Dirk Nowitzski , are the rightful, objective candidates for best nba power forward in history because they occupied that position exsclusively their entire careers ,their greatest success was at the power forward position . Many media pundits and nba historians make the proclamations of Tim Duncan beung the greatest power forward in order to create a narrative of him having being #1 at a position because their infatuation with the spurs dynasty, duncan would never be objectively percieved even a top 5 all time center ,if his flag was planted on that soil , thus the irrational myrh of him being the greatest pf which has spawned a fable has now been filtered around for years that lacks adequate context to support it . Tim Duncan was a center during him prime and later years , he didnt spend a abundance of years lodged at the power forward spot .

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому

      Nice word salad bruh.
      Who’s David Robertson?

  • @CyanIsMyLife
    @CyanIsMyLife Місяць тому

    Clowns of today are comparing a statpadder (a certain Nuggets player) to him as a big man it's unbelievable. They're an unfathomable amount of light years separated and they'll never be close.

  • @Adot_Z
    @Adot_Z 11 місяців тому +2

    Tmac forgetting that 2003 spurs was single handily carried by Timmy , Timmy was unstoppable. There no way 2nd year Tony, rookie manu, and old beaten Robinson gets to the playoff in 2003!!

    • @JamesHardenoverKobe
      @JamesHardenoverKobe 11 місяців тому

      2003
      Dirk played in only half the series. Plus you can debate the refs bailed out the spurs vs the 2003 Lakers. Everyone remembers the Lakers getting saved just the year before vs the kings so they let spurs get away with questionable calls. I even remember Marv Albert and Bill Walton calling out the refs. Funny how spurs fans have forgotten about this.

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому

      The refs?
      That’s all you got now?
      😂😂😂😂
      Man you’re a joke!

  • @user-jv5jw4ix8r
    @user-jv5jw4ix8r 11 місяців тому +2

    And yet you have a few "so called black and white" talking heads trying to put jokic in the same thoughts and sentences with The Big Fundamentalist : Tim Duncan.

  • @AJ-HawksToxicFinger
    @AJ-HawksToxicFinger 11 місяців тому +1

    Stephan A has a top five list without Duncan? And it has KD on it?
    Wtf?

  • @timothyshort5933
    @timothyshort5933 Рік тому +4

    Duncan Top 5 ever. People are slow to see it.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 11 місяців тому

      DUNCAN not even TOP 5 center..he is the 10th best center of all time...

    • @hristijandimitrovski8664
      @hristijandimitrovski8664 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@onlyfacts3178 he is power foward, not center 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @hristijandimitrovski8664
      @hristijandimitrovski8664 11 місяців тому

      I thought I'm the only one who thought he is in top 5 players.

  • @isaiahwrite6010
    @isaiahwrite6010 6 місяців тому

    Timmy walked so Jokic could run

  • @regice5650
    @regice5650 Рік тому +1

    The reason why I can’t give Lebron, KD , steph curry enough praise it’s because they don’t have rivals. They don’t have players they compete head to head with and it looked like wars. Yea Lebron and Steph played in the finals a couple times but it wasn’t a all out drag out situation. The NBA must get back to that. These guys shy away from real competition. The NBA needs rivals and traditional clashes again.

    • @edwells4769
      @edwells4769 9 місяців тому

      It's mostly pansy ball where they all hang out playing grab-ass after the game. Draymond Green about the only guy out there playing with venom

  • @age3233
    @age3233 Місяць тому

    He polish himself in college remember...

  • @crazy_ghost4019
    @crazy_ghost4019 8 місяців тому

    Spurs System... Wait wait...
    TIM DUNCAN SYTEM

  • @robertedwards-it4ii
    @robertedwards-it4ii 10 місяців тому

    Timmy. You are beautiful to watch.

  • @dkdebest
    @dkdebest Рік тому +3

    Tim Duncan just lucky Jokic didn't play in his ERA cause Jokic would make him look like role player

    • @dmoney7184
      @dmoney7184 11 місяців тому

      The joker can’t spell defense 😆😆😆😆😆

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому +3

      Spoken like a true millennial.
      Enjoy your 16th birthday Danny!

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому +1

      FYI Danny, Duncan had 3 Finals MVP after 7 seasons.
      Jokic has how many after 7 seasons?
      Just answer my question please, don’t deflect. Answer the question or you lose this thread.
      I’ll wait.

    • @dkdebest
      @dkdebest 11 місяців тому

      @@jogendron6320 he have 1 soon xD

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому

      So you take one soon over 3?
      Okay I’ll give you one million soon if you give me 3 😂

  • @jayscarz1157
    @jayscarz1157 День тому +1

    IS OLAJUWON REALLY BETTER THAN DUNCAN?

  • @diegochavez6203
    @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому +1

    Those idiots really put steph over Kobe😂

  • @far-flungsemantics1383
    @far-flungsemantics1383 11 місяців тому

    Kenyon martin is a real life GTA

  • @age3233
    @age3233 Місяць тому

    He is the best player.. That's it

  • @age3233
    @age3233 Місяць тому

    Forward or center

  • @terrenceliburd8655
    @terrenceliburd8655 11 місяців тому

    I dont really see the big deal about this guy. He never impressed me but he above all a winner.

    • @colossusofrhodes4387
      @colossusofrhodes4387 10 місяців тому

      Lol guess u've never seen how good Duncan was especially in the early 2000

  • @age3233
    @age3233 Місяць тому

    Basketball is team game

  • @kendrickmanhattan8861
    @kendrickmanhattan8861 11 місяців тому +1

    Duncan was a PF not a Center yes he did play the 5 some in the latter part of his career but majority of his career he played the 4. I had a guy on another vid arguing he was a center because he was tall 🤣🤣 like tf and on that note dude I'm not going to respond to you anymore but yes Timmy was a PF, The PF

  • @TruthSpeakingChess
    @TruthSpeakingChess 11 місяців тому

    People dont know After we won in 2005 after we beat the pistons that destroyed the first Laker Super Team with Kobe Shaq Gary Payton And Karl Malone and we lost by a point in a game 7 west conference Finals when Miami Beat Dallas in 2006 and we would have 3 peat because we beat Cleveland in 2007

  • @diegochavez6203
    @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

    Kobe mj kareem wilt bird duncan shaq magic hakeem lebron .

  • @jacquesthompson2946
    @jacquesthompson2946 Рік тому +1

    Tim DUNCAN in my opinion is better than Lebron.

    • @BH-wq6mc
      @BH-wq6mc 11 місяців тому +1

      He has 2-1 record over LeBron in the finals. Of course, he's better. It's just that Spurs was an ABA team before the merger, that's why the NBA did not want to market this adopted franchise. He made playoffs for all 19th seasons. A record no other can claim.

  • @muscadineman45pritchett82
    @muscadineman45pritchett82 10 місяців тому

    Tim had a lot of help….. so did Leflop and he’s most ppls goat

    • @edwells4769
      @edwells4769 9 місяців тому

      It's a weak argument because Manu and Parker only made a few all nbas and or allstars

  • @Truth_Make_You_Free
    @Truth_Make_You_Free 10 місяців тому +2

    He was a center 🙄

    • @legendarytruth7907
      @legendarytruth7907 Місяць тому

      Tim was a PF in the NBA and Center in College. Imma huge Spurs fan

  • @big-l5771
    @big-l5771 11 місяців тому +2

    I wonder if Duncan and KG had switched teams Spurs and Minnesota. KG would've go down as the greatest player ever

  • @williamfisher680
    @williamfisher680 8 місяців тому

    He's a center. If you start calling centers power forwards I guess they are gonna be the best. If you call Wilt a power forward then He's the best pf.

    • @PoeticJustice05
      @PoeticJustice05 5 місяців тому

      Duncan WAS a PF, fool. Technically he played both positions, but he was really a PF.

    • @williamfisher680
      @williamfisher680 5 місяців тому

      @@PoeticJustice05 I'm not talking about what he's listed as by the NBA. I'm talking about what position he actually played. Is Steph Curry a pg or a shooting guard ? He's listed as a pg but he's not playing point. Who's playing Center when Duncan's on the court? Stop watching ESPN watch the game.

    • @PoeticJustice05
      @PoeticJustice05 5 місяців тому

      @@williamfisher680 I watched plenty of games, and he played both positions throughout his career, but primarily was a power forward, so that's what we know him as.

  • @RedLeo-pf9yo
    @RedLeo-pf9yo 11 місяців тому

    This is the way I look at the ongoing argument between Michael Jordan and LeBron James. I just say I don’t know who the best player of all time is. But I do know that Michael Jordan was the best shooting guard ever to play the game and LeBron James was the best small forward. To ever play the game and Tim Duncan was the best power forward ever play the game And everybody argues about center but I think Hakeem Olajuwon was the best center to replay the game and Magic Johnson was the best point guard ever play the game.

  • @albertjayala4896
    @albertjayala4896 Рік тому +1

    mj KOBE lebron duncan shaq

  • @age3233
    @age3233 Місяць тому

    He is psychologist... These player cannot do nothing to him

  • @diegochavez6203
    @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

    Its a lot closer tim dirk and kg than people think but sure tim could be #1

  • @joearmstrong3866
    @joearmstrong3866 11 місяців тому

    Jason Kidd chose not to play with him. He not telling the truth lol

  • @fam0us210
    @fam0us210 10 місяців тому

    also another thing if it wasnt for that bullshit 0.4 dereck fisher shot he would have 6 rings i still have nightmares of that 🤣 and the shot duncan hit right before that over prime shaq was insane clutch tbh

    • @fartgangtv9143
      @fartgangtv9143 8 місяців тому

      Imagine if that, and Ray Allen in 2013 never happened..

  • @mdgarcia150
    @mdgarcia150 11 місяців тому

    T-Mac is wrong, Spurs are way worse without Tim in 2003 specifically. Tony and Manu weren’t all star caliber players yet, Robinson was old, Steven Jackson was a 3 and D guy. They didn’t really have anyone else that could take over games. 2003 Spurs was all Tim Duncan.

  • @diegochavez6203
    @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

    Kobe average 32.5 6- and 4 vs the Spurs in 2003 it was shaq that got punked lol

  • @diegochavez6203
    @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

    People claim shaq carried kobe but kobe always was the best lmauer worh Duncan and shaq on the floor

  • @earlduque6149
    @earlduque6149 11 місяців тому

    Not anymore, Joker is the greatest power forward

  • @RedLeo-pf9yo
    @RedLeo-pf9yo 11 місяців тому

    Everybody keep saying shack, but even shack admits that he was a terrible defender. And an absolute terrible, free-throw shooter. That’s why they invented hack a Shaq.

  • @atbp828
    @atbp828 4 місяці тому

    That's so disrespectful TMac,
    It looks like you're jealous of Tim Duncan's career because you won zero.
    Duncan made Tony Parker, made an NBA MAnu.

  • @diegochavez6203
    @diegochavez6203 10 місяців тому

    03 spurs def make the playoffs without duncan but they def not winning it

  • @nonyobussiness3440
    @nonyobussiness3440 11 місяців тому

    Barkley absolutely was a better rebounder or scorer but he never was in good enough shape or tall enough to play lock down anchor defense

  • @efremnorwood9708
    @efremnorwood9708 3 місяці тому

    Stop it ! Timmy was a center.............not a power forward.

  • @8mathdaddy
    @8mathdaddy 11 місяців тому

    Giannis will be the greatest pf.

  • @m-jay356
    @m-jay356 10 місяців тому

    Well, time proved him wrong. Spurs looks like shit since Duncan left

  • @vengeancejustice5329
    @vengeancejustice5329 11 місяців тому

    Duncan was the dearest.
    Karl Malone is the best power forward ever.

    • @JohnSmith-oe5kx
      @JohnSmith-oe5kx 11 місяців тому

      Yeah, I think I give Karl the edge but impossible to go wrong with those two

  • @MrBuliths
    @MrBuliths Рік тому +1

    Shaq drinking Tim didn't make Manu or Tony they came to Spurs with high expectations bc of what they ALREADY did overseas.. stop it T-Mac is right he should have been MVP

  • @onlyfacts3178
    @onlyfacts3178 11 місяців тому

    DUNCAN isnt even a PF....ahahahah thats how bad this new analysts are...

    • @jogendron6320
      @jogendron6320 11 місяців тому +1

      What position did David Robinson play?
      Just answer the question, don’t deflect, don’t use emojis or laughing or tell me I’m stupid, I know that already, just answer the darn question:
      What position did David Robinson play?

    • @aaaxudjeksosapl8
      @aaaxudjeksosapl8 11 місяців тому

      In his 5 ring winning years he played with Robinson Oberto and Splitter all centers lmao he only played center at the end of his career with Aldridge, and for like 2 years with McDyess

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 11 місяців тому

      @@aaaxudjeksosapl8 you are clearly a child without any basketball knowledge...
      not going to waste many time with dumb kids.
      1st when he played with ROBINSON they were the twin towers (both playing center)
      Duncan was playing Center guarding Ostertad /Shaq and the centers while Robinson was guarding the PF.
      2nd When he went to the bench W.Perdue another center replace him.
      SO if you cant understand that maybe you are really SLOW and have some problem.
      3rd OBERTO was playing 8 minutes / 12 minutes / 17 minutes / 20 minutes.
      SO you are talking about bench players..
      you know that the game has 48 minutes.
      4th SPLITTER - 12 minutes / 18 miuntes / 19 minutes...
      YOU keep bringing BENCH minute players and you dont even watch the games.

    • @onlyfacts3178
      @onlyfacts3178 11 місяців тому

      @@aaaxudjeksosapl8 yes you are a kid...
      THOSE are bench players thats the problem with just checking INTERNET sites , you dont have the context and dont even know how they were used...
      If you start the game and just play 2 minutes you are a bench player...
      MANU was coming of the bench but he was the main player on his positon.

    • @aaaxudjeksosapl8
      @aaaxudjeksosapl8 11 місяців тому

      Lol youre actually an idiot if u think oberto and splitter were bench players who played garbage time😭