You see, the Sora vs Roxas fight is incredibly beautiful to us who know the context surrounding the fight, but Bizkit really reminded me in his fight that to those with no context, it's just two pre-teens in strange outfits bludgeoning each other with oversized keys that happen to shoot lasers.
+TheSilentKnight131 I think Sora's about 15 going on 16 by KH3, considering he was 14 at the start and spent a full year sleeping in the Pod. Puberty hit him like a train.
Amazing speed run. I want to thank you for making the guide of how to beat all the Data battles. With your video, I was finally able to beat all bosses on Critical. Again, congrats on the world record.
Oh my god, your strategies are pretty much perfect. I timed /myself/ doing every one of these on crit, and it was like. 80-90 minutes. #larXENE AND #XALDIn end my suffering
Oh my good God after looking at the video title i didnt think it was possible to go lower than your old record 29:32. Sure there were a tew errors before like both Xemnas and Demyx because Goofy/Goffy but i figured you would try out some new strats like the DM skip you did for Vexen. Anyways congrats on the record Biz !
How different is 2.5 Data Org compared to Final Mix Data Org? I know about the lagging of 2.5 and the pausing to avoid it, but what other differences are there?
+ShyRanger You have to do Final Xemnas safer/slower due to RCs not working much during throw move. Other than that, it's just a slower run with more pause buffers
+Dajman2707 Gaming You can still pull off the Xigbar strat luckily. I've been testing it but you have to pull it off differently. Firstly you do around 4 bars of health to make up for the extra damage and then when you do use Duck Flare you have to use it after the first horizontal slash. This makes it seem as long as the original KH2FM because it also lasts longer. Other than that I believe it's the same. Just make sure when you are using the Duck Flares you try and get around just over 5 bars left otherwise he will instantly DM and kill the time you had. My channel has the Xigbar fight from KH2FM HD and you can see the differences. EDIT: #ShamelessPlug
Hey Biz, I just tested it, and for Data Saïx, you can use Peter Pan with 2 Air Combo Pluses and High Jump LV3 to get more damage in faster. It's very easy to count the hits on and I feel it's kind of a safer strat, and a little more consistent.
+Sebastian Montes and also no, drives consume different amounts of gauge. wisdom and valor use 3, limit and master use 4, and final uses 5. These runs usually only requires one final form, two limit forms, one final and then a limit, or none at all per battle.
Hey Bizkit047, have you ever seen apulapul2000's TA runs for the Data Org? I haven't seen any, but did you or could you beat any of them? Individual bosses I mean
Congrats Biz! There were 2 little things I was curious about, though. Against Lexaeus, is there any real benefit to using the RC at all? And against Marluxia, near the end of the fight when you use Final then Limit, would using Limit first then Final be worth it at all?
+Zack Rhodes For Lexaeus: Prob not, since the RC animation of stealing the powerup is more than just blowing him down. For Marl: I would consider it a bit more risky, since final fire works really well
Would giving Donald and Goofy proper equipment make a difference? At least a complete set of full bloom + should be worth something. Allowing them to attack in more of the fights might also help thanks to the chip damage(however small it may be).
Mass respect for showing your stats. By the way, you don't need to go proving you're on critical, brother. Just look at where you are in the game and at the length of your health;)
Can somebody help me? I'm currently going through the data battles on my level 1 playthrough and I'm currently working on Xaldin and I want to know how Biz is blocking his attack during aerial dodge like that. I keep trying that and getting killed.
So basically absolute possible difference without new strats is about 55 seconds, but only with perfect play and amazing luck with RNG. A great run to watch!
Anyone here knows the rules for attempting Lvl 1 data org? I can't seem to find specific rulings on this category anywhere. I assume you can't use Power/Def/Magic boosts. Are AP Boosts legal? Is there something else I should know before attempting this run? Thank you.
AP Boosts are fine (since an accessory can solve any AP items anyway, no reason to ban them). Power/Defense/Magic boosts are not allowed though, since then you could just boost your stats to LV99 and make it a pointless run.
hey biz, i'm trying Terra at level 1, how does one get to the second phase safely, and how do i avoid getting the drones to come out after doing a combo on him during bike fase?
+highwind6325 i saw it but i still don't know how to avoid getting or surviving his glider bike as a retaliation move. Sometimes when i get to phase 2 Terra launches the shooting drones and goes into glider mode, and when he starts with the glider i just surrender and wait for him to kill me.
+Breno Ranyere Glider is the most brutal phase and he talks about how he can't explain it very well in the description. Most likely you'll die but just keep guarding them and moving in to counter like the video says when he is done. The drones you can Aerial dodge kill, but are VERY hard to defeat and you should try to wait them out.
+Game Addict I think they have to do Xigbar first so that he spawns the correct arena to loop him in, hence why the ending of the Xigbar fight is more important than that of the Xaldin fight (Xaldin's last hit is more consistent atm than Xigbar since RNG on Xaldin is manipulated enough to prevent DMs)
cuestion, you dont use any HP, magic or defense boost?, i try tho finish the game with that lvl 1 and i say i die hundred times xD, but i see you videos and i learn some kind of strats to keep goin, my goal, that org 13 data in lvl 1, wath kind of equipmen i need or some tips for that fight?
The point is Level One. You can grind to level 99 stats, at which point doesn't really mean level 1 anymore. The only boost allowed (if any) is the Strength Boost in Olympus Coliseum, since that's given to you for free.
Kenny Nguyen No, no stat boosts are allowed in this run period except for ap boosts, as they are necessary to equip the abilities needed to Do these fights.
+inverser361 I don't think Terra is a category (correct me if im wrong) because Terra is so random there really isnt a consistent strat (that i know of) to beat him other than looping him and using limit form in his last phase. but agan correct me if im wrong
+inverser361 It's kind of a pointless record to keep I guess. Were the 3 minutes done on console or emulator? If emulator, you can go a lot faster than 3 mins. On a quick youtube search, you can see a guy got 38 secs. I haven't found anyone doing under 1 minute outside of emulator(which I don't think counts for the leaderboards), but the damage output of lv 99 Sora with 80 across all stats spamming FFFiraga or Zantetsuken+Ars is so insane that I think even a console run should hardly take 3 minutes. Biz himself takes around 4:40 to kill him at lv1 with no stat boosts and with half assed growth abilities. I mean, in that vid, he takes over 1 minute to get Terra to leave phase 1, while LV 99 Sora with all 80's would push him beyond that EASILY in a few seconds of Ars-Zantetsuken or FFFiraga, and neither form would even run out. 3 minutes is hardly a milestone.
I'm guessing the reflect/slapshot combo at the beginning of Xemnas 1 has to be done really fast? Cuz every time I try it, I screw up and have to insta-trinity
To make your time a little bit faster I know I technique you could use for Xigbar when you're fighting him do almost exactly what you did when you going to final form heal and make sure you have dessert and also make sure that he made the room smaller. And this will allow you to attack him so much that he'll have less than one health bar left every time depends on what your strength is also but still
Matthew Hopley Ah. I think it's probably part memorisation from the English version, part reading katakana (most spells are the same, and the attacks and reaction commands tend to have English names) and part just learning as you go, as you do normally regardless of language. KH2 isn't that complex of a game, especially since there's a lot more emphasis on situation-specific quick time events than the other games in the series.
Ay Blitz, could you do a showcase of how does the Keyblade steal from Roxas adds on Limit Form attacks? It's very hard to find a video that shows all the skills.
Why Don't you use Ultima Weapon or Winner's Proof since you are usin alot of Magic such as Fire, Blizzard, Thunder, etc. I think it would be faster to kill then using decieve pumpkin which has a magic stat of 1 which is very weak.
I don't know if anyone has stated this not hating or trolling but it's goofy and Donald not goffy and dolan lol other than that nice work wish I had the reflex with menu's to pull any of this off lol
"Tell me why the Keyblade chose you!"
>completely fucking destroys him in like 1 minute without getting hit
"... I see... that's why."
*with his own keyblades
You see, the Sora vs Roxas fight is incredibly beautiful to us who know the context surrounding the fight, but Bizkit really reminded me in his fight that to those with no context, it's just two pre-teens in strange outfits bludgeoning each other with oversized keys that happen to shoot lasers.
Correction mid-teens
+TheSilentKnight131 I think Sora's about 15 going on 16 by KH3, considering he was 14 at the start and spent a full year sleeping in the Pod. Puberty hit him like a train.
Antiform Agreed- I must've been thinking about KH1 Sora at the time.
13:18
I've never seen a health bar deplete so fast
Lvl 1 depletion too
Reflega, aka the "Larxene Deletion Spell"
Amazing speed run. I want to thank you for making the guide of how to beat all the Data battles. With your video, I was finally able to beat all bosses on Critical. Again, congrats on the world record.
axel's nickname killed me. that's pretty funny
the fight with roxas looks so beautiful haha
favorite fight
Best fight in entire kh
**after seeing last video**
Well it'll be a while before he tops that.
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Okay....
gooby the real mvp
+Anthony O'Connor gooby pls
you are the best man, really love your content!
gonna try a LV1 run soon enough, hopefully you taught me something haha
its a loooooooooooong way before you even consider data org
13:19 what happened? I just blinked.
*DANCE WATER DANCE! OW! WOAH!*
PogChamp TEH URN FrankerZ
All of the congratulations. Freakin all of them. Wish I could have been on when it happened, but that's how it is sometimes.
Congrats Biz
Noice! Gratz man, that was an awesome run!
You are awesome man. Very impressive.
Congrats Biz!
Oh my god, your strategies are pretty much perfect. I timed /myself/ doing every one of these on crit, and it was like. 80-90 minutes. #larXENE AND #XALDIn end my suffering
xaldin was my last one. bitch just wouldnt die
Huge GG!
nice, topped the record again :D
Oh my good God after looking at the video title i didnt think it was possible to go lower than your old record 29:32. Sure there were a tew errors before like both Xemnas and Demyx because Goofy/Goffy but i figured you would try out some new strats like the DM skip you did for Vexen.
Anyways congrats on the record Biz !
Bravo! This was kick ass.
Agh, this was during that late night stream, right? I fell asleep during this stream GAAAHH!!
But congrats anyway and nice job, Biz!
It was your day good run.
Now, in no damage. Kappa
+Neddless Some Bosses like xemnas or roxas strats garantuee to take dmg, they are planned in.
Rerouting Strats wouldnt be benefitial for time
ASZHanazaki You see the Kappa?
sorry im too old for "kappa" :D
How different is 2.5 Data Org compared to Final Mix Data Org? I know about the lagging of 2.5 and the pausing to avoid it, but what other differences are there?
+ShyRanger You have to do Final Xemnas safer/slower due to RCs not working much during throw move. Other than that, it's just a slower run with more pause buffers
Ah, I see
+ShyRanger Also i dont know if the xigbar strat here would work due to Doland's Duck Flare doing wayyy more damage in 2.5 than it does in 2fm original
+Dajman2707 Gaming You can still pull off the Xigbar strat luckily. I've been testing it but you have to pull it off differently. Firstly you do around 4 bars of health to make up for the extra damage and then when you do use Duck Flare you have to use it after the first horizontal slash. This makes it seem as long as the original KH2FM because it also lasts longer. Other than that I believe it's the same. Just make sure when you are using the Duck Flares you try and get around just over 5 bars left otherwise he will instantly DM and kill the time you had. My channel has the Xigbar fight from KH2FM HD and you can see the differences.
EDIT: #ShamelessPlug
+Bizkit047 Is is true that the Firaga combo that you abused here got neferd for 2.5HD?
God
Awesome job!
you beat your record! nice :D
Hey Biz, I just tested it, and for Data Saïx, you can use Peter Pan with 2 Air Combo Pluses and High Jump LV3 to get more damage in faster. It's very easy to count the hits on and I feel it's kind of a safer strat, and a little more consistent.
That's awesome
noice
How was he able to go back into his forms again after he used them? Shouldn't his drive be at 0 instead of full?
+Sebastian Montes and also no, drives consume different amounts of gauge. wisdom and valor use 3, limit and master use 4, and final uses 5. These runs usually only requires one final form, two limit forms, one final and then a limit, or none at all per battle.
Hey Bizkit047, have you ever seen apulapul2000's TA runs for the Data Org? I haven't seen any, but did you or could you beat any of them? Individual bosses I mean
I'm pretty sure he's seen them they used to watch each other's lvl 1 play through back in the day.
I'm just curious about if there's a world record for fastest boss kill (no restrictions except no damage), and who holds it
+oresamastar666 Nah, because some of the strats are so consistent we'd just be tying ourselves.
Some of these don't seem to be working in 2.5, or am I doing it wrong?
Congrats Biz!
There were 2 little things I was curious about, though. Against Lexaeus, is there any real benefit to using the RC at all? And against Marluxia, near the end of the fight when you use Final then Limit, would using Limit first then Final be worth it at all?
+Zack Rhodes For Lexaeus: Prob not, since the RC animation of stealing the powerup is more than just blowing him down. For Marl: I would consider it a bit more risky, since final fire works really well
ASZHanazaki Ahh, I gotcha. Thanks very much!
Would giving Donald and Goofy proper equipment make a difference? At least a complete set of full bloom + should be worth something. Allowing them to attack in more of the fights might also help thanks to the chip damage(however small it may be).
What is 'rc'? Never heard the acronym before..
+Ivan Arana (Thesilenceismine) Stands for reaction command.
thanks for clearing that up!
And now we have sub-25 runs of Data battles... the community is making good progress xD
I love how it would take me 28:54 just to take out xemnas 1
Mass respect for showing your stats. By the way, you don't need to go proving you're on critical, brother. Just look at where you are in the game and at the length of your health;)
"EEYAAARRRRHHHH"
Can somebody help me? I'm currently going through the data battles on my level 1 playthrough and I'm currently working on Xaldin and I want to know how Biz is blocking his attack during aerial dodge like that. I keep trying that and getting killed.
+XxTheWhopperxX1 Nevermind.. I'm stupid. I never realized Aerial Dodge can block attacks. Derp.
XxTheWhopperxX1 I know this is a year old comment, and that you may also know this, but Aerial recovery can do the same.
Haha thank you. I figured it out that night. I never knew Aerial recovery could do that though. Pretty interesting.
XxTheWhopperxX1 Aerial Recovery, when used right can give me opportunities to heal or attack, especially with Lingering Will.
Amazing! ! :)
HOLY ****! How?
WOW.
So basically absolute possible difference without new strats is about 55 seconds, but only with perfect play and amazing luck with RNG. A great run to watch!
Marluxia level 1 looks crazy.
Anyone here knows the rules for attempting Lvl 1 data org? I can't seem to find specific rulings on this category anywhere. I assume you can't use Power/Def/Magic boosts. Are AP Boosts legal? Is there something else I should know before attempting this run? Thank you.
AP Boosts are fine (since an accessory can solve any AP items anyway, no reason to ban them). Power/Defense/Magic boosts are not allowed though, since then you could just boost your stats to LV99 and make it a pointless run.
Even the power boost you get from that one chest in olympus coliseum?
Are AP Boosts legal? No, it is illegal in Canada. ^^
hey biz, i'm trying Terra at level 1, how does one get to the second phase safely, and how do i avoid getting the drones to come out after doing a combo on him during bike fase?
phase*
+Tri Malefic argh! thanks man!
+Breno Ranyere Watch his video on "farming Terra for Manifest Illusions"
+highwind6325 i saw it but i still don't know how to avoid getting or surviving his glider bike as a retaliation move. Sometimes when i get to phase 2 Terra launches the shooting drones and goes into glider mode, and when he starts with the glider i just surrender and wait for him to kill me.
+Breno Ranyere Glider is the most brutal phase and he talks about how he can't explain it very well in the description. Most likely you'll die but just keep guarding them and moving in to counter like the video says when he is done. The drones you can Aerial dodge kill, but are VERY hard to defeat and you should try to wait them out.
Congrats d=^)
6:55 Roxas' fight
Amazing!!!!! I tried fighting them but I obviously failed.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍👌
Vexen took me 40 minutes, on casual play...
Does doing Luxord first before Xigbar help on getting that 15-second time save?
+Game Addict I think they have to do Xigbar first so that he spawns the correct arena to loop him in, hence why the ending of the Xigbar fight is more important than that of the Xaldin fight (Xaldin's last hit is more consistent atm than Xigbar since RNG on Xaldin is manipulated enough to prevent DMs)
+The Sapphire Carbuncle I wouldn't call it the correct arena, since you can do the loop in any one of them, it's just the fastest arena
cuestion, you dont use any HP, magic or defense boost?, i try tho finish the game with that lvl 1 and i say i die hundred times xD, but i see you videos and i learn some kind of strats to keep goin, my goal, that org 13 data in lvl 1, wath kind of equipmen i need or some tips for that fight?
The point is Level One. You can grind to level 99 stats, at which point doesn't really mean level 1 anymore. The only boost allowed (if any) is the Strength Boost in Olympus Coliseum, since that's given to you for free.
i played in lvl 99 but i wanth to try the lvl 1 CM
Kenny Nguyen No, no stat boosts are allowed in this run period except for ap boosts, as they are necessary to equip the abilities needed to Do these fights.
xXMajoraXx Did you read...
Not like it matters, after Pirates or so, you need a lot of stats to matter.
I'm curious as to how you got a lvl 1 sora with all of the abilities and keyblades and stuff. Cheats? Save file maybe?
There's an ability thing called zero exp that you get at the start of crit. drive forms and summons still level tho
wow, so he played through all of crit mode with a lvl 1 sora? geez.
+BlackFrostmourn Allot of people do and im considering doing that myself
+Senketsu “Kamui Senketsu” Flores Kiryuin do it,you'll feel like a true keyblade master
+Jhonery Contreras until you play dream drop distance and know you are not
It's not world record anymore is it? spider0008 did better by like 3 secs, or was it different conditions?
bizkit, what's your record on lingering will? just curious
+inverser361 I don't think Terra is a category (correct me if im wrong) because Terra is so random there really isnt a consistent strat (that i know of) to beat him other than looping him and using limit form in his last phase. but agan correct me if im wrong
Well, I saw a guy beat him in under 3 minutes
+inverser361 It's kind of a pointless record to keep I guess. Were the 3 minutes done on console or emulator? If emulator, you can go a lot faster than 3 mins. On a quick youtube search, you can see a guy got 38 secs.
I haven't found anyone doing under 1 minute outside of emulator(which I don't think counts for the leaderboards), but the damage output of lv 99 Sora with 80 across all stats spamming FFFiraga or Zantetsuken+Ars is so insane that I think even a console run should hardly take 3 minutes. Biz himself takes around 4:40 to kill him at lv1 with no stat boosts and with half assed growth abilities. I mean, in that vid, he takes over 1 minute to get Terra to leave phase 1, while LV 99 Sora with all 80's would push him beyond that EASILY in a few seconds of Ars-Zantetsuken or FFFiraga, and neither form would even run out. 3 minutes is hardly a milestone.
I'm guessing the reflect/slapshot combo at the beginning of Xemnas 1 has to be done really fast? Cuz every time I try it, I screw up and have to insta-trinity
If you dont mash the X or O button
nice
Couldn't you shave off like 1/2 a second selecting Session at the end of the laser dome
gj
To make your time a little bit faster I know I technique you could use for Xigbar when you're fighting him do almost exactly what you did when you going to final form heal and make sure you have dessert and also make sure that he made the room smaller. And this will allow you to attack him so much that he'll have less than one health bar left every time depends on what your strength is also but still
Not only does this not make any sense, whatever it is you're trying to suggest is not faster
Why don't you block instead of reflecting in axel's fight? you could really save some MP
Uh...well you see, it's a speedrun, and we go fast. Who the hell cares about saving MP when we restore it constantly anyway without having to worry.
Bizkit047 good point.
how does he know what hes picking? does he speak japanese??
+camcar333 You don't need to speak Japanese to remember what each thing is. XD
+camcar333 The different gates all show symbols based on the members' weapons, so it's only a case of remembering who wields what.
+Dee Cross (DoubleCross) I think he/she was talking about the menus and abilities you have to navigate through :P
Matthew Hopley Ah. I think it's probably part memorisation from the English version, part reading katakana (most spells are the same, and the attacks and reaction commands tend to have English names) and part just learning as you go, as you do normally regardless of language. KH2 isn't that complex of a game, especially since there's a lot more emphasis on situation-specific quick time events than the other games in the series.
How do you know what it says while its japanese
if kingdom hearts was a fighting game you be in the top ranks
Wait when did the DM skip in Vexen happen. I had no idea that was a thing.
Ay Blitz, could you do a showcase of how does the Keyblade steal from Roxas adds on Limit Form attacks?
It's very hard to find a video that shows all the skills.
Zero The Bloodedge no
I was going to ask why aren't you playing 2.5 but then I thought back toy playthrough and remembered the lag
4:30 all under like 5 seconds...
Is there a particular reason why you always fight Data Org in that order?
its the best for manipulation of certain fights and faster for menus and such, so it is the fastest.
Since when was there a fast DM skip for Vexen?
I didn't know it was possible to retain those floating keyblade throughout the fight with Roxas.
when you completely wreck Auron's WR
try lv1 CM data org no abilities no equip w/ kingdom key, and you can spice it up with no forms or limits as well, basically data org with kh2 roxas
Why are some Data XIII members speaking in English while others are in Japanese?
The number of times you've topped your own WR is scary XD
Holy fucking shit
one year later
And here I'm having trouble beating these guys normally...
i know what u mean
This is way outdated, the WR now is sub 25, update please
How can he read Japanese or know what he's equipping
+Sebastian Montes knowing exactly where things are and such. plus im sure when your used to the game already like biz is, you can recognize things
Blizzard its pretty much cool than fire in pre zebraman finish move
Why Don't you use Ultima Weapon or Winner's Proof since you are usin alot of Magic such as Fire, Blizzard, Thunder, etc.
I think it would be faster to kill then using decieve pumpkin which has a magic stat of 1 which is very weak.
Stats don't matter, damage scaling is the only reason he can do anything.
Noob question. Why vexen didn't DM at 5.5 health bar?
It has to do with Anti Sora being out at a specific time and such, hard to explain
still WR?
Larxene is lucky that she's only data
And now the WR is 19:54... wow.
WAT. by who???
Not A Shark damn now it’s 18:57
Oops I forgot to record
Why is pause buffering not banned for glitching
Who else is triggered when he calls him Goffy instead of Goofy xD
Haha anyway gj and nice record :3
@5:31 Pathetic guy who self-censored is 8 seconds faster at this point.
can you read japanese
He has muscle memory from kh2 original. He also has notes to tell him what (insert anything here? translates in English
I got this version just no ps2 or pc
why is xemnas a anagram for men sex?
Gab Bo
Because 13
I don't know if anyone has stated this not hating or trolling but it's goofy and Donald not goffy and dolan lol other than that nice work wish I had the reflex with menu's to pull any of this off lol
Why does he call goofy goofy and donald doland? Is that just their nicknames lol
It's because of the memes
WOW!!! Sub 29 Data Org??!! #unreal