UFO Enemy Unknown .... A Classic. A real Treasure. One of the best Games ever played ^^ When i first time played it i was addicted to the game, playing hours and hours deeply into the night just to wonder why the room gets so bright and notice the sun already was coming up ^^ Yeah... it's a great Game, even now.
@@OldAndNewVideoGamesI-'ve spent few months of last year playing X-Piratez total conversion. Amount of stuff added is overhelming. Little rough at the start, but after that... Endgame has blown my brain :]
I’ve never got big in to turn based squad tactics games. I’ve played a bit of several games here, who hasn't, but mostly just watched mates playing them. It’s still interesting to see someone who knows this type of game talk about them though, thanks. Your subscriber count’s quite big these days… 😉
Yeah, I just love these, they're some of my most favourite games. But I get that not everyone's into those slower experiences. Yeah, I got to 10k. I'm thinking what to do about it like literally now. I'll have to come up with a video for this or next week to celebrate. :)
I remember having a demo cd with terror from the deep and ufo defense on it (among others). Played the UFO Defense demo so many times, killing the same snakemen and chryssalids in the same map over and over; playing like I was barricading in each house or store as I moved on. So much fun. Needless to say when I could finally buy the real thing I was all in. I think the only real 'flaw' I felt was the absolute ease at getting the big launcher and heavy plasma so quickly it trivialized the need for any in-between weapons, but I often made squads of lesser weapons just for fun. Terror was fun, too, but never hit that same place for me. The water maps were a cool idea, but felt more bland. Even the busier above ground maps just didn't feel the same as the terror missions and the like from UFO. And I think like many I hated the shipping lane missions lol. Even so, it was more of the same, so I played it a lot, too - just not *as* much.
Oh, I see I'm in the presence of another XCom fanatic. :) Pleasure to meet you sir, and may the next XCom we get, ressurect the online mode so that we could face each other in the field of alien hunting. ;)
The only turn-based strategy game I've played multiple times was Spellcross 1997/1998, which judging by your accent you should be familiar with. I don't like strategies, but this game really got me.
I'm so glad the Breach, Rules of Engagement, and Universe game are now available digitally. I never actually played Breach 1 until the re-release but I played Breach 2, Universe 3,and the Rules of Engagement games as a kid. I like Terror From The Deep but I prefer Jagged Alliance 1. I think the main reason most of the weapons and gear we had in X-Com UFO Defense weren't in Terror From the Deep was they didn't work, or didn't work well underwater, Deadly Games was my introduction to the Jagged Alliance series but I prefer the games with a strategic layer to it so I prefer the first game.
Truth be told, whatever we prefer or not, all the games you mentioned are mighty fine, and it was fun playing each and every one of them. Don't you think? :)
I remember playing ufo and terror from the deep until the sun came up in my teenage years in the 90s. I must have put in a thousand hours each, they were great 😁
Jagged Aliiance and X-Com Apocalipse are both the greatest strategy games of that period... I expected a faithful remake at this point, but they only added new titles to the series, especially X-Com although it has improved graphics, I preferred it to Apocalypse
@@OldAndNewVideoGames ah, the squad tactics part did not register for me lol. I'm not sure if I have ever played now that I think about it. I'll have to look them up. The closest would be Valkyria chronicles.
Oh, oops. The intro specs screen for the fourth displayed game, Laser Squad, has an erroneous year of 1991, when the text overlay bar over the game's clip afterwards shows the correct year of 1992 (for the DOS version). Note to others, this game was previously released on multiple other platforms in 1988-1989, and then on the PC-98 in 1993.
I missed 1994's Sabre Team which was enjoyable for being very tactical, and kind of based on a realistic real world tactical squad. Obviously played Xcom 1 and 2 to death. And still have the deadly games box on display in my 'office'.
Also my favourite genre. I used to spend HOURS scanning lines of hex in the UFO games, looking for patterns in the numbers to edit for modding (not that it was known as that at the time ;P), experiments with the stats of aliens etc. Laser Squad on the ZX Spectrum was my intro to them. Yes, the "real time" feature of Apocalypse was a brave move but the series had a fairly entrenched fan base by then so most still went for the more familiar turn-based. Plus it was WAY too easy to miss a "Headhumper" behind a wall graphic! Off topic- Windows based UFO games: The ALTAR Interactive UFO series was fun (especially having a Granny in your team ;)), UFO: Extraterrestrials was awesome, Xenonauts 1&2 I very much enjoyed too, created by some serious Gallop fans and of course Phoenix Point, which I haven't played yet despite being a backer :P Not because it's crap or anything, just never gotten around to it :P I felt X-com 2, although a fun game (apart from the last DLC which changed the game TOO much), "strayed from the path" set down by our Lord and Master, The Gallop. BUT it is still very much worth playing (again, apart from the pathetic add-on Alien Hunters (between 15-40% reviews on Steam for goodness sake!!)). In the mean time, I seem to have aquired the ENTIRE X-Com 2 DLC....not sure how that happened but I STRONGLY suspect I'm going to be playing it again soon...thanks for that, if you hadn't done this video...I might never have seen that...in fact...I might just do ALL of them all over again ;D That's the next few months sorted ;D... life CAN be good to you. Once I get "paid" (benefits) I suspect you've got another Patreon (the Giga Chad level is EXTREMELY optimistic....but you never know ;D).
If you enjoy the modern iterations, then I recommend "Long War" and "LongWar Rebalance" for the first "new" XCOM, and "Long War of the Chosen" for the second. They make the game better. The first one especially, it's like a total conversion taken to the tenth. Xenonauts I still have to get around to. Though I have it and am hoping to find time at some point. And Phoenix Point, even though I have it with all addons, I kinda bounced off of, something didn't suit with me with all the sea creatures. But that was few years back, and I should really give it another chance.
I sold mine about five or so years back and part of me still regrets it XD It was such a fun game. Been playing Gloomhaven/Frosthaven over the past couple years with some friends and while it is a blast, it gives me feelings of nostalgia for Heroquest and the good times playing it as a kid.
@@unacceptablefailurerate6453 Well, if you liked Heroquest and like Gloomhaven now, then I can wholeheartedly recommend Descent. It's ace! Not only you also lead your party of adventurers, same as the others (naturally best played with friends), but also campaign lasts for hundreds of hours, and you get to build and assemble your own 3D maps. With all the props, points of interest and such.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thanks a lot for the recommendation! I'll definitely let my pals know about it and see if it's something they'd like to go for in the future - it looks cool!
@@unacceptablefailurerate6453 Oh, it's so good! The only real difference though is that there's no game master. I mean, there is one, but it's neither of the players. It's the computer. Cause you need an official Steam app to act as your GM. So, if someone in your friends group enjoys being GM more than playing, he/she's gonna be disappointed a bit.
WHAT???? No Steel Panthers? By Strategic Simulations in 1995???? Steel Panthers drilled down WWII battles down to squad and individual vehicles tactics. You could fight Battalion to company-sized engagements for every major country of the second world war. Individual battle scenarios as well as multiple different campaigns. Try landing on Normandy Beach and advance squad-by-squad! That's a kick in the pants!
The World has spoken... Well, not literally. Website users have laid their votes, but you know what I'm saying. And yeah, Steel Panthers is definitely a good game!
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I realize that Steel Panthers appealed to the more traditional historical wargamer, it reminded me of those old hex-based map games with dice-rolling and little cardboard counters. The low-keyed animation definitely left much to the imagination. But at the same time if you got into command and control type games where strategy was paramount and your decisions had consequences, it was a really fun game.
x-com apocalypse had a lot of stuff...too much, at the same time, the manual was like an encyclopedia, it made the game much more difficult than should be
Well, you may be right. They made the game for "us", and not for the newcomers to the series or the genre. :) Perhaps, in the long run, it might've been a mistake.
@@poppers7317 Eventually I intend to cover Windows as thoroughly as I hope that I will DOS/Amiga at some point (they had a head start). So far out of 1993-2002 Early Windows series I started we're at the last episode for 1997 releasing soon. So, still 5 years to go. After that, I can get into more obscure/hidden games. Compilations and bests of may happen earlier though. :)
It's a totally different type of experience. The first game is fine, but imo, part 2 is the way to go. It's a true masterpiece of a game and it's definitely in my top 10 possibly top 5 favorite games of all time. It holds up for sure. It's much more in depth and tactical than jagged alliance 1, which is a good game in its own right, however you could go straight to part 2 and not miss anything story or gameplay wise, since they changed up the gameplay so much. If you get JA2 on steam, there is an easy fix that I had to do in order to get the speed right. It was too slow at first but someone on steam posted about a single change you can edit in to the files in order to make it run perfectly on modern PCs. Then there's the excellent 1.16 update. It's not necessary to have a great time with the game, but I'd still recommend it since it adds so much and it's such an excellent addition to the vanilla experience. In fact, I'd just add 1.16 even for a first playthrough. It's that good. What a game though! If you're at all into squad based tactical games with rpg elements, you're going to adore jagged alliance 2. I can guarantee it. And don't be frightened off by the speed fix. You might not even need to do it, as not everyone has the problem I think. But even if you do, it's literally a single, easy file edit that completely fixes the speed. It made my game go from slow and annoying, nearly unplayable, to swift and perfect in every way. Exactly how an older game should run on modern hardware.
@Tony_Cardoza answered your question perfectly. Both are great, both are different too. But JA2 is definitely the better one. Though if you feel up to the challenge, I'd recommend JA2 Wildfire, it's commercially modded basic game, with new weapons, slight changes to the map and more demanding gameplay. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames For all the times I played through JA2 since it came out around 25 years ago, I've still yet to play JA2 Wildfire. I have it on Steam, it came bundled with JA2, but I don't think I've even booted it up before. I never heard anything bad about it, but every few years when I get the urge to play JA2 again, I always just go to the regular game (plus the crucial 1.13 mod of course). It's about that time for me to replay JA2. This time, on your recommendation, I think I'll check out Wildfire. Thanks for the tip. And of course, as always, thanks for the wonderful youtube uploads.
I know, but he just went and never came back. He's not picking up when I call, he's not answering his emails or discord. I don't know what more to do...
I have it too. Not played it nearly as much I'm afraid, as I'm short on time, but first few missions seemed fine. Maybe not as fine as JA2 did, but fine none the less. I'll report more if I play more. :) One way or another, 70 hours is a lot anyway.
UFO Enemy Unknown ....
A Classic.
A real Treasure.
One of the best Games ever played ^^
When i first time played it i was addicted to the game, playing hours and hours deeply into the night just to wonder why the room gets so bright and notice the sun already was coming up ^^
Yeah... it's a great Game, even now.
Yep, and the oldie is very good in its OpenXcom version. You can even run it at high res!
Check some mods too!
@@Aquarium78 Now you've got my attention. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGamesI-'ve spent few months of last year playing X-Piratez total conversion. Amount of stuff added is overhelming. Little rough at the start, but after that... Endgame has blown my brain :]
@@Aquarium78 X-Piratez. OK, I have it now officially written down for when I have time to play the game. :) Thank you!
Breach 2 and Rules of Engagement together was my game to play in the early 90s, I was still playing it when X-Com came along!
It was a good combo, no doubt about that!
I’ve never got big in to turn based squad tactics games. I’ve played a bit of several games here, who hasn't, but mostly just watched mates playing them.
It’s still interesting to see someone who knows this type of game talk about them though, thanks.
Your subscriber count’s quite big these days… 😉
Yeah, I just love these, they're some of my most favourite games. But I get that not everyone's into those slower experiences.
Yeah, I got to 10k. I'm thinking what to do about it like literally now. I'll have to come up with a video for this or next week to celebrate. :)
I remember having a demo cd with terror from the deep and ufo defense on it (among others). Played the UFO Defense demo so many times, killing the same snakemen and chryssalids in the same map over and over; playing like I was barricading in each house or store as I moved on. So much fun. Needless to say when I could finally buy the real thing I was all in. I think the only real 'flaw' I felt was the absolute ease at getting the big launcher and heavy plasma so quickly it trivialized the need for any in-between weapons, but I often made squads of lesser weapons just for fun.
Terror was fun, too, but never hit that same place for me. The water maps were a cool idea, but felt more bland. Even the busier above ground maps just didn't feel the same as the terror missions and the like from UFO. And I think like many I hated the shipping lane missions lol. Even so, it was more of the same, so I played it a lot, too - just not *as* much.
Oh, I see I'm in the presence of another XCom fanatic. :) Pleasure to meet you sir, and may the next XCom we get, ressurect the online mode so that we could face each other in the field of alien hunting. ;)
The only turn-based strategy game I've played multiple times was Spellcross 1997/1998, which judging by your accent you should be familiar with. I don't like strategies, but this game really got me.
Yeah, I know of it. Not played it though. Looks good.
I'm so glad the Breach, Rules of Engagement, and Universe game are now available digitally. I never actually played Breach 1 until the re-release but I played Breach 2, Universe 3,and the Rules of Engagement games as a kid.
I like Terror From The Deep but I prefer Jagged Alliance 1. I think the main reason most of the weapons and gear we had in X-Com UFO Defense weren't in Terror From the Deep was they didn't work, or didn't work well underwater, Deadly Games was my introduction to the Jagged Alliance series but I prefer the games with a strategic layer to it so I prefer the first game.
Truth be told, whatever we prefer or not, all the games you mentioned are mighty fine, and it was fun playing each and every one of them. Don't you think? :)
You are clearly an X-COM fan, and that means you're right.
I cannot argue with this statement. Everything about it seems 100% correct. ;)
I remember playing ufo and terror from the deep until the sun came up in my teenage years in the 90s. I must have put in a thousand hours each, they were great 😁
Yeah, I miss being able to play games all the night through. xD
Good picks, Janosik! The cow game looks kinda slow but charming. Definitely never seen that one before
Thanks! I'm glad you like it!
Jagged Aliiance and X-Com Apocalipse are both the greatest strategy games of that period... I expected a faithful remake at this point, but they only added new titles to the series, especially X-Com although it has improved graphics, I preferred it to Apocalypse
I actually enjoy the new iterations of XCom a lot too. And waiting for the "3", it should be out in couple of years or so.
Aw yessss now this is what I'm HERE for!
:)
Ahhh ... digital comfort food. Your videos, I mean.
Thank you so much! :) New one's coming out later on today. :)
great list as always. my obsessive ass was looking for HOMM2 lol
It would be great, but not in a Squad Tactics video. It may appear once more soon in something...
@@OldAndNewVideoGames ah, the squad tactics part did not register for me lol. I'm not sure if I have ever played now that I think about it. I'll have to look them up. The closest would be Valkyria chronicles.
@@Bowen_Landry Oh, I always liked Valkyria! :)
Oh, oops. The intro specs screen for the fourth displayed game, Laser Squad, has an erroneous year of 1991, when the text overlay bar over the game's clip afterwards shows the correct year of 1992 (for the DOS version).
Note to others, this game was previously released on multiple other platforms in 1988-1989, and then on the PC-98 in 1993.
Oh darn it! Great catch! Will have to fix it for a compilation video for a whole year! :)
Thanks!
I missed 1994's Sabre Team which was enjoyable for being very tactical, and kind of based on a realistic real world tactical squad.
Obviously played Xcom 1 and 2 to death. And still have the deadly games box on display in my 'office'.
Sabre Team would've been an excellent addition, you're right about that! MobyGames users picked different though.
Also my favourite genre. I used to spend HOURS scanning lines of hex in the UFO games, looking for patterns in the numbers to edit for modding (not that it was known as that at the time ;P), experiments with the stats of aliens etc. Laser Squad on the ZX Spectrum was my intro to them.
Yes, the "real time" feature of Apocalypse was a brave move but the series had a fairly entrenched fan base by then so most still went for the more familiar turn-based. Plus it was WAY too easy to miss a "Headhumper" behind a wall graphic!
Off topic- Windows based UFO games:
The ALTAR Interactive UFO series was fun (especially having a Granny in your team ;)), UFO: Extraterrestrials was awesome, Xenonauts 1&2 I very much enjoyed too, created by some serious Gallop fans and of course Phoenix Point, which I haven't played yet despite being a backer :P Not because it's crap or anything, just never gotten around to it :P
I felt X-com 2, although a fun game (apart from the last DLC which changed the game TOO much), "strayed from the path" set down by our Lord and Master, The Gallop. BUT it is still very much worth playing (again, apart from the pathetic add-on Alien Hunters (between 15-40% reviews on Steam for goodness sake!!)).
In the mean time, I seem to have aquired the ENTIRE X-Com 2 DLC....not sure how that happened but I STRONGLY suspect I'm going to be playing it again soon...thanks for that, if you hadn't done this video...I might never have seen that...in fact...I might just do ALL of them all over again ;D That's the next few months sorted ;D... life CAN be good to you. Once I get "paid" (benefits) I suspect you've got another Patreon (the Giga Chad level is EXTREMELY optimistic....but you never know ;D).
If you enjoy the modern iterations, then I recommend "Long War" and "LongWar Rebalance" for the first "new" XCOM, and "Long War of the Chosen" for the second. They make the game better. The first one especially, it's like a total conversion taken to the tenth.
Xenonauts I still have to get around to. Though I have it and am hoping to find time at some point. And Phoenix Point, even though I have it with all addons, I kinda bounced off of, something didn't suit with me with all the sea creatures. But that was few years back, and I should really give it another chance.
I loved UFO Enemy Uknown but I was so bad it at.
Oh, I have those kinds games too. ;)
I got Heroquest the board game for xmas 90. It was neat.
It must've been! :)
I sold mine about five or so years back and part of me still regrets it XD It was such a fun game. Been playing Gloomhaven/Frosthaven over the past couple years with some friends and while it is a blast, it gives me feelings of nostalgia for Heroquest and the good times playing it as a kid.
@@unacceptablefailurerate6453 Well, if you liked Heroquest and like Gloomhaven now, then I can wholeheartedly recommend Descent. It's ace! Not only you also lead your party of adventurers, same as the others (naturally best played with friends), but also campaign lasts for hundreds of hours, and you get to build and assemble your own 3D maps. With all the props, points of interest and such.
@@OldAndNewVideoGames Thanks a lot for the recommendation! I'll definitely let my pals know about it and see if it's something they'd like to go for in the future - it looks cool!
@@unacceptablefailurerate6453 Oh, it's so good! The only real difference though is that there's no game master. I mean, there is one, but it's neither of the players. It's the computer. Cause you need an official Steam app to act as your GM. So, if someone in your friends group enjoys being GM more than playing, he/she's gonna be disappointed a bit.
I still have the original game box and manual of HEROQUEST 😺👍🕹️.
However, the only sad thing is:
there is no a game tape 😹!
Ah... The most important thing. xD
WHAT???? No Steel Panthers? By Strategic Simulations in 1995???? Steel Panthers drilled down WWII battles down to squad and individual vehicles tactics. You could fight Battalion to company-sized engagements for every major country of the second world war. Individual battle scenarios as well as multiple different campaigns.
Try landing on Normandy Beach and advance squad-by-squad! That's a kick in the pants!
The World has spoken... Well, not literally. Website users have laid their votes, but you know what I'm saying. And yeah, Steel Panthers is definitely a good game!
@@OldAndNewVideoGames I realize that Steel Panthers appealed to the more traditional historical wargamer, it reminded me of those old hex-based map games with dice-rolling and little cardboard counters. The low-keyed animation definitely left much to the imagination.
But at the same time if you got into command and control type games where strategy was paramount and your decisions had consequences, it was a really fun game.
@@loreauvillephil True.
x-com apocalypse had a lot of stuff...too much, at the same time, the manual was like an encyclopedia, it made the game much more difficult than should be
Well, you may be right. They made the game for "us", and not for the newcomers to the series or the genre. :)
Perhaps, in the long run, it might've been a mistake.
Hey, what's the game on the intro? Looks pretty cool!
Oh, that's one of the best games ever made! UFO: Enemy Unknown (aka X-Com: UFO Defense). :)
Did you ever play Legend for Amiga?
Yup :)
20:55 Were the Aliens sending little girls to fight humanity?
LOL :)
You forgot D.R.A.G.O.N Force 1989 by Interstel amiga and ms-dos
Oh, no, I didn't... xD MobyGames users just didn't pick it. It's a MobyGames picks video.
Bluebyte's Incubation
Good game.
I think i had laser squad for amiga
First I saw it was on C64, some kind of a pirated version on a tape, that was split into 4 separate "games", each being one of the missions. xD
This reminds me of how much I hate evil aliens.
I know, right? Bastard$! xD
@@OldAndNewVideoGamesIt's ok, we reverse-engineered a Heavy Plasma that Sectoid was carrying. They're gonna get it now!
Why stop right before Jagged Alliance 2?
It's a pure DOS video. JA2 released on Windows only. I'm definitely going to cover Jagged Alliance at some point. :)
@@OldAndNewVideoGames would be great. And maybe also something for Silent Storm. A 1995 - 2005 Windows Tactics game compilation maybe.
@@poppers7317 Eventually I intend to cover Windows as thoroughly as I hope that I will DOS/Amiga at some point (they had a head start). So far out of 1993-2002 Early Windows series I started we're at the last episode for 1997 releasing soon. So, still 5 years to go. After that, I can get into more obscure/hidden games. Compilations and bests of may happen earlier though. :)
How much will i have to suffer to play jagged alliance? Should i start with the second game instead?
It's a totally different type of experience. The first game is fine, but imo, part 2 is the way to go. It's a true masterpiece of a game and it's definitely in my top 10 possibly top 5 favorite games of all time. It holds up for sure. It's much more in depth and tactical than jagged alliance 1, which is a good game in its own right, however you could go straight to part 2 and not miss anything story or gameplay wise, since they changed up the gameplay so much. If you get JA2 on steam, there is an easy fix that I had to do in order to get the speed right. It was too slow at first but someone on steam posted about a single change you can edit in to the files in order to make it run perfectly on modern PCs. Then there's the excellent 1.16 update. It's not necessary to have a great time with the game, but I'd still recommend it since it adds so much and it's such an excellent addition to the vanilla experience. In fact, I'd just add 1.16 even for a first playthrough. It's that good.
What a game though! If you're at all into squad based tactical games with rpg elements, you're going to adore jagged alliance 2. I can guarantee it.
And don't be frightened off by the speed fix. You might not even need to do it, as not everyone has the problem I think. But even if you do, it's literally a single, easy file edit that completely fixes the speed. It made my game go from slow and annoying, nearly unplayable, to swift and perfect in every way. Exactly how an older game should run on modern hardware.
@Tony_Cardoza answered your question perfectly. Both are great, both are different too. But JA2 is definitely the better one.
Though if you feel up to the challenge, I'd recommend JA2 Wildfire, it's commercially modded basic game, with new weapons, slight changes to the map and more demanding gameplay. :)
What an excellent answer! I couldn't have said it better myself. :)
@@Tony_Cardoza should i bother with the remake of 2? Also is the first game harder or easier?
@@OldAndNewVideoGames For all the times I played through JA2 since it came out around 25 years ago, I've still yet to play JA2 Wildfire. I have it on Steam, it came bundled with JA2, but I don't think I've even booted it up before. I never heard anything bad about it, but every few years when I get the urge to play JA2 again, I always just go to the regular game (plus the crucial 1.13 mod of course). It's about that time for me to replay JA2. This time, on your recommendation, I think I'll check out Wildfire. Thanks for the tip. And of course, as always, thanks for the wonderful youtube uploads.
I miss Batman. :/
I know, but he just went and never came back. He's not picking up when I call, he's not answering his emails or discord. I don't know what more to do...
Can I respectfully suggest a pop filter .
I have one but it's either not great, or the mic, or I just keep popping in my foreign pronunciation. ;)
I'm getting bored with JA3 after 70 hours of playing, I'm about to uninstall it without finishing it...
I have it too. Not played it nearly as much I'm afraid, as I'm short on time, but first few missions seemed fine. Maybe not as fine as JA2 did, but fine none the less. I'll report more if I play more. :)
One way or another, 70 hours is a lot anyway.