Nicki Minaj & Jesy Nelson Defends "BLACKFISHING"!?.... Lets Talk
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"I grew up around black culture and that's all I know".
Well one tiktok user said, *"I grew up watching Disney, but I never painted myself orange, moved to an aquarium, and called myself Nemo"* . And that's how you clear a blackfisher 😂❤️
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Plus she is from Romford England, I have cousins from there and they say they hardly see black people. She probably just saw blackness on the internet growing up and wanted to copy it.
This the one❗️🤣🤣🤣
Lmaooo THIS THIS THIS AND THIS 💕
Damn 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kelly clarkson is a white woman who loves to sing soul. But she is a texas country girl and she’s hasn’t changed since 2002. It can be done 👏🏾👏🏾
We Stan Kelly Clarkson !!!!!!
She also gives black artist platforms on the Kelly clarkson show
Kelly’s cover of Kiss by Prince, period. That’s all you need to know. 😌👌🏽
PERIODT
WE LOVE KELLY!!
The fact that Nicki said "Well people have been doing this for years and y'all don't drag them" is just an admission that it IS indeed black-fishing.
Exactly. She's basically saying that jesy is blackfishing. Lol
And jesy is just there like she didn't get what nicki just said
i mean, one of her close friends is Ariana Grande so I doubt she’d actually care
@@lxa2612 it can't compare to jesy Ari has a brown skinned decent she's Italian so she can tan her skin but jesy is purely white European 😂😂😂
@@treasuresquad Question for you miss... where's Italy in terms of continent?
@@treasuresquad Italy is in Europe..💀
Learned a long time ago, Nicki is for the black woman when the narrative suits her. In an industry where racism is so prevalent and polarizing, she failed a lot of people that support her. When it’s genuine, music is colorblind, ex. Jojo, Yebba, Jessie J, Tori and etc.
Black woman are amazing and will always be the blueprint.
Tori is half black tho
Nicki called out Miley Cyrus for the same thing she’s advocating now. So if we’re playing that game… there needs to be some apologies and accountability.
And it’s annoying that she made it about her like “when you have a Nicki feature” gurl stfo nobody give a damn about that feature this girl is BLACKFISHING. Y’all look like y’all could be sisters in the video and not because she naturally has those features
You are absolutely right I do remember that so she needs to pick her battle so because she's cool with this girl that's why but even though I wasn't a big fan of what Miley was doing you sat here and put her on blast she is a big hypocrite
Don’t be surprised. She defends her suspect brother and husband. Woman has zero integrity.
@@Rick.Grayson girl shut up and go touch grass nobody owes miles nothing
YEessssss. Call nicki out
“And what about Leigh Anne mental health?” That is the reason why i love Zachary
THIS‼️ And she just gave birth to twins!!!!
🤣
Leigh Anne is fine lol she’s never talked about struggling she’s clearly just jealous cause of Jesy solo success and it shows
@@JakeReeves001 She has a whole documentary 😐. And just gave birth to twins. She's not jealous.
@@leila8701 ok? Jesy has one too. I’m not even a fan of little mix but this supposed “blackfishing” was fine when they were in a group together and is fine when the other two are doing it so why is she being selective?
Leigh Ann has ZERO Reason to be jealous of anyone. She's gorgeous and talented and has been making waves for people of color by sharing her story and giving others a platform to share their truth. #westandwithleighann and You gave me all I needed to know about the behind the scenes to ascertain Jesy had been warned several times!
It's a shame she doesn't recognise that.
Just being real, Nicki has NEVER been for black women unless it benefits her. She always been about tearing other black women down.
Period. I always side eyed her but when she married that man I knew
THANK YOU! I’ve been saying that for years! You are absolutely correct.
Not to mention the fact that Jordan B had a wine/liquor line and the name of the brand Nicki had a problem with because it was culturally inappropriate to make a profit off of. She had very strong remarks about that
I remember at one point in high school there was a debate about her being considered fully black versus indo-Caribbean.
FACTS
My thing is…Nicki literally called out Miley Cyrus for doing the exact same thing Jesy is doing, only Miley actually didn’t put on a ridiculous tan, wigs and get filler. Nicki seems to turn a blind eye with Jesy because her bag is involved. Not to mention completely disregarding, disrespecting and bullying the only black member of the group. She went straight for the attack when everyone at this point knows those dm’s were fake. And the fact that Jesy could sit there and laugh after Leigh supported Jesy through her documentary, through her exit. It was very telling.
Preach!! 👏🏾
Those DMs are very, very real. Jesy owes Leigh NOTHING after that!
@@Hafferlaf87 they’re not though? They’re been debunked in 8 million ways. For starters the video showed he had stories from other followers, he doesn’t follow anyone. B) the voice notes in the video are all the same length and frequency which is literally impossible c) Leigh does not type or talk like that d) the time zone would be completely off if they were to be real e) Leigh’s name appears wrong
There was room for only one victim storyline in LM and Jesy ran with it hard. Jade had an eating disorder and is part Egyptian/middle eastern, and Leigh got an absolutely massive load of racist hate over the entire run of the group and still is getting racist comments, but they all supported Jesy through her documentary and all her mental health and anxiety stuff, and seemingly genuinely loved her like family only to get not a damn thing back from Jesy when they needed love and support.
Hafferlaf87 it’s not real at all and ur the only bozo that doesn’t see that. Plz tell me where Leigh Anne’s verified check mark went in the screen shot? Why is it not there? Bc it’s FAKE.
Jessie J is a good example of tapping into that R&B and sort of hip hop genre and being respectful about it without changing who you are. She is a white British woman and has never altered herself to please anyone. **Just my opinion**
I forgot about Jessie J
She is the true definition of minding her business
Jojo as well. She pays homage and makes R&B music but she is still a white woman and presents as such
@@anxiousbutstillalive9488 and you can tell Jojo really loves that type of music, she constantly pulls out deep cuts of R&B music on song association games or whatnot.
Let’s not forget Yebba as well!
No she isn’t a good example she uses the N word. Yikes.
“so hood, so good, so damn taboo” if that’s not fetishizing and objectifying black men i don’t know what that is… she never dated the men she claims to like in the song, she’s a white british woman who predominantly dated white british men
The song is about her latest ex Sean Sagar I think who is mixed with Black, which makes the lyrics even worse imo. So the relationship was hood and taboo because he is Black? And based on her exes (one who dumped her via text message and another who apparently was dating someone else when he got with her), she does like bad boys, but chose the mixed man to make the bad boy…not those other white boys. Jesy is not slick at all
I've only ever dated black men. Now do I get a pass? Actually they already gave me a pass to copy their culture. Black people in UK dont have these issues. Just a few SJWs. 30 years growing up with black people and they always complimented my hair styles and dancing etc and would aks me to canerow their hair. You guys need to stop letting the internet brainwash you into racist thinking.g
@@DarkAngel2512 I don’t think you understand what the conversation is acc about and just because other black people aren’t offended doesn’t mean they speak for all black people
@@naimaahmed9730 we're getting somewhere. Other black people dont speak for all black people. Glad you get it now
@@DarkAngel2512 but you’re acting as if because black people you know are okay with non black people having cornrows it gives you the rightto invalidate other black people’s opinions
Jo-jo nails it truthfully. She appreciates black culture but doesn’t appropriate it. That’s how all white women should aspire to be. She acknowledges the black women that inspired her and shows love. It’s hard nowadays to not be influenced by black culture but it’s all about respecting boundaries and appreciating the people who are laying the blueprint.
wow, americans are so sensitive on this. Instead of separating black and white people we should come more together and appreciate and show the cultures, it does not matter which skin color you have. You'll are fucking racist at trying to tell people why they're racist, 0 iq.
It breaks my heart that Nicki said Leigh Anne was only saying this because of jealousy. Countless of times bw are called bitter, angry, and or jealous, when calling out these NON black women. So for her to resort to that was lame and I never been so disappointed. She of all people should know how it feels to be called the the angry/jealous/bitter bw🤦🏿♀️
Preach
This comment is GOLD!
And Nicki should know how it feels to be called a angry bitter black woman.
Especially when Leigh has talked aboit black issues and racism FOR YEARS
@Gio tayyy Danie is not black 😂😂 her parents even said they are not black sooooo
I can't imagine the trauma of being the SOLO black girl in a girl group... God Bless leigh anne and Normani
Jade is of black descent
@@mariahbrown624 still not black 🤓
@@ouch3420 ok well just ignore that her mom is black. Got it 👌🏽
Leigh-anne is not black but mixed
@@ouch3420 neither is Leigh-anne
you know who always appreciated black culture without any sort of mockery or disrespect for the culture and its people? Mac Miller
He isn't hating on nicki, he was just disappointed
he been and snake and so have all of u
JoJo is the PERFECT example of someone who appreciates black culture..she pays homage and advocates for black artists.
Facts I love Jojo miss mamas does not bother nobody
Oh and Pink Lana del ray and Christina Aguilera
Yeah and Black audiences still don't mess with her music like that, though. Jojo can sing her butt off but the only way she'd get any attention is if she wore cornrows and put on heavy makeup
Okay??
Lies
@@sethbrolsma516 Uhh no.. People in general aren’t as into her music because she’s had a mismanaged career for years due to being on Blackground Records. She’s just now trying to pop off again after a while so it’s not going to be an instant success but she’s definitely respected & remembered for her old music. Maybe she’ll never be as big but appropriating is never the answer lol
jesy wore whole ass dreads and got COOKED for it. she knows what she’s doing.
Omggg when was this? (I genuinely don’t know)
@@ashtonmartin8664 like in 2017 or before , i remember it being in the media
How did I forget about the dreads situation. Mixers dragged her for filth
Bleachyonce wears fake blonde weaves and has bleached skin
So the curls was low key for her I guess??! Smh
It's genuinely so infuriating and upsetting to see Nicki single-handedly enforcing the narrative that black women are simply "jealous" or "insecure" for calling out the essential cosplaying of black culture for profit. People have every right to be upset about what Jesy did and should not be invalidated for feeling that way, or be reduced to being "bitter and insecure"
As Zach said, JoJo is damn talented no matter the genre. She doesn’t appropriate, she appreciates and celebrates. Joss Stone is another incredibly talented artist with such a soulful voice. For these goddesses it’s all about the artistry, as it should be.
“They” Make Being Black Cool For Everybody But Black People, Make It Make Sense.
HELLO👏🏾👏🏾
This......
💯💯
Right. When we do or say anything, we’re called “Ghetto and Ratchet”, but everyone else is called “Trendsetters “. Like the Kardashians with braids or the white Tik Tockers getting credit for our dances, not to mention being credited with “starting the trend” of wearing the long nails that everyone called “Ghetto “ when Cardi and the other melanated girls were wearing them. We can’t have shit.
But that’s people within your circle take a step out and see that a lot of us that don’t care about hip-hop and don’t give a crap about any of that we have no admiration for that and we even look down on that lifestyle and mentality so it’s really just about your perspective if you are in the hood I guess all you can see is the hood but when you escape that it’s not even relevant
No one is talking about this lyric and it troubles me to no fucking end "So hood, so good, so damn taboo"
Like... What the actual fuck
Well pointed out.
Exactly! The lyrics are fetishizing and stereotyping black men. Who thought this was okay??!
Exactly!!! And for her to equate this with jealousy basically shows she was talking out the side of her neck. She doesn’t know what was beneath the surface of that group’s issues. Nicki was giving very much Hypocritical, cause she’s accused Miley, Cardi, and Jessie J of the exact same thing, and said they were appropriating our culture, but she fucks with Ariana heavy.
@@jupiterbby Just more proof that Zachary is right about the industry and the label.
She wrote the song, she knows the meaning. That's how shallow she is.
aNYWAYS Y'ALL - Hayley Williams/Paramore, Poppy, Grimes, Jess Glynne, Florence + The Machine, MARINA, Orla Gartland and AURORA are all BEAUTIFUL, talented, mostly unproblematic amazing "proud white girl" artists you can support, ALONG with Kelly Clarkson, Jojo, Jessie J, and Adele!!! 💞💞💞
And Joss Stone!
Adele has been accused of this too recently....
You can't Tell me Grimes is unproblematic when she married Elon Musk. Separated or not.
@@soaribb32 where did you guys miss the "Mostly" part?? Please learn to read if you wanna pop off. And, oh well, I'm sure you have better things to worry about - like a white woman black fishing - than getting up in arms ab Grimes getting a kid w the guy bc she wants to go to space lmfao??
@@chroniclesofqueennutmeg No, no she has not. Adele wore bantu knots, a protective hairstyle, which is cultural appropriation. But she wore it in the context of a festival in London that celebrates Caribbean culture, which, she has probably been going to w all her black and white friends since she was a kid. I draw the line at hairstyles, I don't think she had to do that, but people do invite others to join in their culture during celebratory periods. This isn't an issue in the rest of the world, it's mostly an American one, social context v much matters.
she was all about post natal depression but switched up when it came to Leigh Anne. She’s putting so much energy into someone who would never do the same for her.
JoJo, Jessie J, & Tori Kelly are beautiful examples of how to sing with soul without appropriating black culture.
Update: Adding Yebba, Iyla, Adele, and Joss Stone from the comments. Leaving Mrs. Tori.
Tori kelly is biracial though. Her father is Puerto rican and jamaican and he isn't fair skinned. Jojo and Jessie j are great examples tho
@@tiffanyelainestubbsfarrull2204 and Kelly Clarkson!
Yesss Jessie J and Jojo are both such overlooked but excellent examples
@@tiffanyelainestubbsfarrull2204 even so she’s still white passing and knows this so she still continues to be true to herself.
@@tiffanyelainestubbsfarrull2204 so then tori isn’t biracial… she’s just 25% black if her dad was half black.
I hope Jesy sees this, she’s trying so hard to defend herself when she could use the time to learn
Hater
Jessy never defend this. She was jusy apologizing if anyone felt offended. Its nicki was the one that was defending jessy
@@4642529 of what specifically?
@@mialong2363 and she laughed
Mia Long that’s false. She knew ppl hated her blackfishing and she continued to do this. She not innocent she knows what she’s doing
nicki hasn't always been about uplifting black woman, she has been anti-black a few times and etc.
"WHAT ABOUT LEIGH-ANNE'S MENTAL HEALTH"
on point , drop the mic, bye
Am dropping it!! 🎤
Considering she JUST had twins
@@_misselle Yes! Plus, some people really believe she has the energy to DM some random TikToker too 😭 like she ain't got the time
@@weruleyoudrool exactly! Like how can you not see that’s fake?! They really do anything for clout and it’s sad that it’s at Leigh’s expense
Literally clapping at the screen. Apparently mental health has only affected one member of little mix. Smh.
I was legit crying through this whole thing. It’s crazy how much hate Leigh Anne is getting. You are too woke Zach. You are too underrated. You need your own morning show.
Nicki was talking about the DOUBLE STANDARD !
People only chose on who they want to criticised when some people are allowed to do the same thing… it’s giving favoritism…
People don’t want to support the Jesy song because of " blackfishing " but we don’t see posts that say to not support the Kardashian’s business ? Yall litteraly made a blackfishing woman a billionaire tf !
And there are a difference between ;
« CALLING OUT » and « DEFENDING ».
Nicki didnt give her personal idea about this, Nicki was talking about it to the masses about yall double standard (that I just explained before).
If yall are so against the " blackfishing " go tell this to every celebrity that are doing this right now.
And then, for the Leigh Anne situation, it wasnt even about what she went through in her career (cause Nicki Minaj is also a black woman in this industry and she went through some stuff too!) BUT THATS WASNT THE CASE AT ALL !
They are TWO videos that showed Leigh Anne bad talking about Jesy to alter her image.
Nicki was talking about THAT ! (you can still see the live yall damn selves).
@@heygiogio Oh no the delusional barbs have found this.
@@heygiogio Regardless it wasn’t nicki’s place to insert herself in something that don’t got nothing to do with her. To talk that way about leigh-Anne was beyond unnecessary and full on disrespectful like you can’t excuse that. Whatever beef jessy and leigh-Anne got going on is their business only. If leigh-Anne had an issue with her own band mate being four shades darker than her as a black woman she has every right to be upset. Nicki always have to bring other people’s name in her mouth in order to prove her point nobody was talking about the kardashians they just like Jesy are apart of an issue that Nicki is choosing to be ignorant to. At the end of the day just because other white woman black fish too doesn’t make Jesy doing it ok.
@@tyramcglashan3752 you was talking for nothing… do you know the definition to DOUBLE STANDARD? You have to take a comparison… COMPARISON !
The kardashian was the comparison.
Now re read it, you don’t get it
@@CAM-sf9yy Nicki was talking about the DOUBLE STANDARD !
People only chose on who they want to criticised when some people are allowed to do the same thing… it’s giving favoritism…
People don’t want to support the Jesy song because of " blackfishing " but we don’t see posts that say to not support the Kardashian’s business ? Yall litteraly made a blackfishing woman a billionaire tf !
And there are a difference between ;
« CALLING OUT » and « DEFENDING ».
Nicki didnt give her personal idea about this, Nicki was talking about it to the masses about yall double standard (that I just explained before).
If yall are so against the " blackfishing " go tell this to every celebrity that are doing this right now.
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And then, for the Leigh Anne situation, it wasnt even about what she went through in her career (cause Nicki Minaj is also a black woman in this industry and she went through some stuff too!) BUT THATS WASNT THE CASE AT ALL !
They are TWO videos that showed Leigh Anne bad talking about Jesy to alter her image.
Nicki was talking about THAT ! (you can still see the live yall damn selves).
I wrote a whole paper for my gender, race, and class in the media class. Here were things I highlighted
Jesy states” Got a little attitude, but I think he’s kinda cute. So hood, so good, so damn taboo” as these lyrics are sung so is seen standing next to a tall black man whose face is not in the shot, additionally he holds out a small meal for Jesy in one hand and a weight in the other. The lyrics are glorifying the stereotypes cast onto black men, having an “attitude” and being “hood” is never seen as a good thing when it addresses people of color and is weaponized against black people.”
“I like them tattoos and them gold teeth Type to make me feel like I’m a baddie” when this line is first said in the video we are again given a close-up of a muscular black man with a grill with the title of the song. Once again a black man is fetishized by Jesy as it makes her feel like a “baddie.”
Great points.
Did Jesy write those lyrics, or Diddy or someone else? She is merely a puppet. It's the people pulling her strings that are the colorists... and the color is green.
@@Dinkwadznah with all due respect
It looks hella weird for a WHITE woman to talk about how much she wants a hood guy
You have a way to talk & explain about topics in a way that’s attention catching. It’s like have a real convo with a friend. You’re so well spoken & it’s crazy how much I can agree with you in every video 🙌🏼💕
I felt sorry for Jesy when she first left the group saying that she wanted to work on herself and deal with mental/emotional issues. Then she pops up on social media in the studio recording music. She could have been honest from the beginning. She wanted a solo career. I think there was a lot of turmoil going on behind the scenes in the group that we don't know about. It was messed up how she sat there letting Nicki disrespect Leigh like she was nothing.
I don't think they were that close as they told themselves to be. It always looked fishy to me.
@@vishakhabirdi I agree cause I could never of my best friend of 10 years
@@deshellenewell3224 well LEIGH-ANNE, JADE and PERRIE never fake their love to JESY and in their circle. I do hope they be okay someday. Cuz LITTLE MIX have clean records except from LEIGH-ANNE going to court because she was assault/ slap by a stupid man who's insecure to LEIGH's success and also to Piers Morgan insulting them but a lot A-list celebs like Ariana Grande, Lauren, Normani and many more defend LITTLE MIX.
I've been a fan of the group since Wings. She went from pale to tan in the years. Her lips suddenly got bigger. Her attitude has always been horrible. She's a drainer. She complains about everyone is bullying her and the girls encourages her and she constantly compares them to herself. She takes the life out of everything. I saw her for what it was, she wants to be solo. There has been talk about leaving the group way before.
But you know nothing about what happened behind closed doors. There's a reason why she left the group.
“Gay WHITE men feel like a minority until you realize you still have privilege” THAT right there ended it for me I literally had to pause for a moment and think about that statement. Perfectly said in only 14 words.
That is a true statement, though gay people can still be discriminated against regardless. Speaking from experience.
Dave Chappel said it first and he’s still getting hate for it for some reason. People pick and choose who to support and criticize which was apart of what Nicki was saying. I’m not going to defend blackfishing but I’m also not going to act like this hasn’t been happening for years.
@@nauyomistephenson
Dave Chapelle did not say it first.
@@nauyomistephenson The criticism with Dave Chappelle had more to do with the fact that he criticized the LGBTQ+ community for making more progress than black people-even joking that if the slaves had worn booty shorts and oil they would have been free a lot sooner.
The problem is that black and brown queer people (especially trans people) are the reason that the LGBTQ have so much progress in the first place, fighting against both homophobia in their own communities and racism. It just came off as very ahistorical, despite the fact that he was completely right about white gay privilege.
Dave chapelle 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
ZACH. This video right here is why I recently subscribed to you on Patreon. You are saying FACTS. Speaking on things no one else wants to be honest about and I rate you for it. Keep this content up. So much respect for you right now. ALSO super excited for your own music :)
I'm from Brazil and I just LOVE you, Zach. Please, keep doing videos like that, with conversations.
I’m a stone cold barb but if Nicki felt like she needed to defend Jesy, she could do that without dragging Leigh-Ann through the mud while Jesy laughs. Calling her a clown and all that cause the messages are alleged. Also even Jesy said Leigh told her about it before. This a mess that needs to be handled privately.
I completely agree!!! Say what you need to say but NOT at the expense of a black woman!!! Especially one who has known Jessy longer than you and you BArley know!! It wasn’t her fight to chime into it
Okay because if Nicki get's cancelled the barbz will has well . RIP stone cold barbz.
Definitely
@@LovedByYou fyi, Nicki has known jesy for 3 years or more
Agree definitely after going on British radio saying she loved LM and saying shes messaged the girls about baby's you don't let someone bitch about your sister. I think LM has I followed to save there brand. Jesy came from Essex mainly white higher class people. She's been called out for year's.
leigh anne literally TOLD her she was uncomfortable like come on now
Thank you for your honesty, I completely agree!!!! Also thank you for loving & uplifting black women the way you do💞🙌🏾🥰
That was so engaging Zach! I really love you giving your opinion and you having a solid reasoning behind it
Nah I’m sorry but Jesy’s career ended before it started when she said ‘having two woman of colour in the group was hard’ and ‘they never told me they had a problem.’ Firstly, that’s proven to be a lie. She admitted Leigh had concerns and also their team has spilled on how she was educated for years. Secondly!!! It’s not Leigh or Jade’s job to educate her. It’s just not. People expect Leigh to publicly slandered her then band mate?
Yessss this
but Leigh-Anne and others did EDUCATE HER while she was still in the group.
@@sandraonyeka9071 and Jesy still ignored them. She thinks getting a co-sign from Nicki gives her a pass to blackfish but Nicki can't force us to accept her.
And even if they didn’t tell her for years their fans have been calling her out for it for YEARS like there was no way of missing it.
Also weird how she left the group right after leigh anne confronted her and with her whole victim parade she’s got going on it makes sense that she can’t take criticism well
1: Team Leigh-Anne all day everyday
2: Some very good points made here
3: The song ain’t even all that for Nicki to be going so hard.
4: Stream Jojo’s new album Trying Not To Think About It.
Jojo severely UNDERRATED. SEVERELY!
started watching this knowing you were gonna do a good job with it and i was not disappointed. i love the way you spoke on it and i'm thankful you did.
Nicki lost respect the moment she tweeted: “the blackfishing only apply if they do a solo single with me”. No nicki this isn’t about you, your are not the center of everything. nicki is defending jesy just to promote her song and in her delusional mind she thinks people call out jesy because nicki is in her song, not at all, it’s been YEARS that people in little mix team have been warning about blackfishing to jesy, but she didn’t care, also she didn’t care that nicki, by defending her (a white woman), she attacked leigh anne (a black woman and activist). Disappointed but not surprised.
She didn’t attack her let’s not turn a statement and questions into an attack
It's more like the women you collaborate with feel COMFORTABLE blackfishing with your co-sign....
🗣🗣🗣 preach
@@Bunnybunny5656 girl no.......
Also, we can’t forget Jade with her being an Afro-Arab POC woman she had to go through the same thing
Jade doesn't even look white-passing imo.. u can clearly see that she isn't white, she was surprised that people even thought she looked white passing because she used to get bullied for not looking and being white.
Never thought Jade was white but mix
@@kanashii99 people only think she’s white passing because white people look mixed race with their excessive tanning now. like perrie edwards is a white woman, and she’s never felt the need to look another race in pictures where jesy should be the same shade as her and isn’t.
@@Shant3ll998 facts
I thought jade was just Arab
Lol how you said “Leigh-Anne JEALOUS!?!?” Hahahaha 👏👏👏👏
I just cant believe that Jesy let someone talk badly, PUBLICLY, about her friend of 10 years.. someone she called her sister.. if someone ever talked badly about my closest friends, they would be smacked into the next century.. and ive only known them for 2 years 😕
I think this just highlights jesy’s values. She’s willing to push her own “friends” down if it means saving herself. And Nicki is dead wrong for what she did. She’s completely lost it since 2018. She used to complain about blackfishing (tweeted about it, called out Miley) and now she’s defending it to save herself… Nicki doesn’t care for black women anymore, she’s made it clear. It’s not a problem that effects her anymore so she stopped caring.
Nicki “ Real B****es never attack another woman” on Cardi and on Miley “You’re in videos with black men and bringing out black woman on stages but you don’t want to know how black women feel about something that’s so important.”
Keep this same energy for Jesy …
Leigh Anne and Jade (half arab) always spoke about racism and colorism and Jesy still was ignorant enough to ignore all their problems and was like "I want your ethnic features but not your problems LoL"
Jesy has never been an actual ally. She couldn’t even be bothered to post a story about Leigh’s documentary and during the height of the BLM protests fans had to beg her to post a single picture.
@@aneliz4050 She really has the audacity 🙄 ridiculous
yesssss
thank you for THIS. appreciate you always being straight to the point and REAL.
I was so supportive of Jesy when she first left the group, for taking control and doing what’s best for her mental health. AND NOW, she sits there and LAUGHS when Nicki is sat there insulting and throwing shade at one of her “sisters”. no, girl. that’s not it. I just can’t fuck with that… nu uh
This video is IT! I wish we could broadcast this and force everyone to watch it because all of these points are incredibly valid
when you looked in the camera and said nicki of all people should know about keeping her business behind the scenes until she’s ready to address it i was like HE READINGGGGGG
Y’all remember Jesy when she was crying about the bullying and Leigh-Ann was the most consistently vocal defender and supporter of Jesy? I do
and now she just laughing and nodding when nicki attacked Leigh
@@cole613 that’s what I’m sayin she has been your friend for a decade and yet someone u got a single with just talk about your best friend and not say anything that’s fake
And didn't Jesy leave Little Mix due to mental issues stemming from being in the spotlight and how all the girls supported that and now she's giggling and kekeing with someone shading her friend? When did we lose the plot of the story?!
Jesy cackled hehe while her “sister” of a decade was being slaughtered by a woman Jesy has met TWICE in her life.
Shame. Such a shame.
This ..this right here!!!
thank u so much for this Zach! You absolutely pointed the SH8T OUT.
Thank You Zach. My thoughts exactly. You hit the nail on the head every time.💯
"I FEEL LIKE TAYLOR'S THE LAST WHITE WOMAN LIKE, "I WANNA BE WHITE"" HAD ME GAGGING A;OIHLDLOADSH
It's true though lol but that made me laugh so hard
That's why I'm never worried about her on that front 😅😅😅 And she also knows to keep her mouth shut .... Taylor is my girl , my fav white woman
LMAOOO as a swiftie this had me shook. That woman livess her fantasy as an American Princess and good for her
I know right? I never thought about it until now lol I am a Swiftie too!
And Adele and Katy and Selena and Jojo and Jessie J.
The rest r gone...
especially Nicki being like "stop pitting women against each other" when she's maliciously doing the exact thing she preached
Nicki was talking about the DOUBLE STANDARD !
People only chose on who they want to criticised when some people are allowed to do the same thing… it’s giving favoritism…
People don’t want to support the Jesy song because of " blackfishing " but we don’t see posts that say to not support the Kardashian’s business ? Yall litteraly made a blackfishing woman a billionaire tf !
And there are a difference between ;
« CALLING OUT » and « DEFENDING ».
Nicki didnt give her personal idea about this, Nicki was talking about it to the masses about yall double standard (that I just explained before).
If yall are so against the " blackfishing " go tell this to every celebrity that are doing this right now.
And then, for the Leigh Anne situation, it wasnt even about what she went through in her career (cause Nicki Minaj is also a black woman in this industry and she went through some stuff too!) BUT THATS WASNT THE CASE AT ALL !
They are TWO videos that showed Leigh Anne bad talking about Jesy to alter her image.
Nicki was talking about THAT ! (you can still see the live yall damn selves).
what? she didnt pit anybody against each other.... she even said she wasnt picking sides , she was just calling out somebody.
She has been saying this shit and doing the opposite. She forgets this sentiment every time there's a female rapper who might be a threat to her thrown... She forgot that sentiment when dealing with her husband's victim. She's forgetting it now. Nicki is hypocritical catty bully. Has been for years but her fans have given her pass after pass after pass
@@YouWillGetThereBuddy nicki has never did that to no female artist Don’t lie cardi started with nicki why would nicki be worried about somebody who doesn’t write their own songs plus nicki always shows support but then gets slapped in the face like Remy ma Like Megan
@@Dream-lp3pg Lol its always everyone else except the common denominator... 😂 Nicki fans continue to excuse her behaviour and act she's never in the wrong. No Sweety she's the one who is the hypocrite and I love how you didn't mention her husband's victim either. Pathetic 😂 let me not get started on her supporting men who victimise little girls and woman.
I watch this video almost everyday! You’re amazing Zach!!!!
Talk baby, talk cause its making sense and am living for it. It had to be you, to make it, make sense. Brighton, England. Love ya🖤🙏🏿
I LOVED THE JOJO EXAMPLE. Jojo loves black culture but there was never a time in her career where she tried to appropriate it or change herself to "blend in"/ appear ethnically ambiguous. She stays in her lane and sings from the soul and she's very uplifting of black women!!
With Jesy on the other hand, it felt like a costume, like a gimmick. She was black for the moment type of vibes and to me it came off as insulting. It probably wasn't her intention and she definitely isn't the only one doing it but it's still damaging.
Despite all of that the person who i'm truly disappointed with is Nicki. She had an opportunity to sit down and educate or just focus on the song but instead she attacked leigh anne tried to create a false narrative of jealousy. I hate how nicki made it about herself, saying how people were only upset with jesy bc she was on the song when we're actually mad at the black fishing.
Anyways sorry for the long ass think piece. Thanks for reading i guess
Also thank you zach for making this video and speaking up about such a prominent issue in not only the music industry but entertainment as a whole.
I really hope that jesy re-evaluates her actions and apologises to those she hurt. And nicki should aplogise to leigh and make sure she's using her platform more responsibly.
Word
Exactly 💯
@@Josh-ds4ez I don't see Nicki apologizing at all, but I too hope jesy reevaluates.
The thing with Nicki, is that she jumps into everybody else’s business but won’t address her own with the shit that’s been going on with her husband.
😂😂😂
No but fr
Because that is a legal matter. When the case us over, I'm sure she will address it. Have you never heard of anything you say can be used against you........
@@TruthHurts91 Trust me Niki not addressing nothing after
THAT PART. I feel like I’m living in another universe or something. How can someone be comfortable supporting her right now? Especially with the interviews given by the survivor😞
She can’t address a open case 😭😭
" besides Jade, Jade's a little something" loool 😂😂😂😂
Leigh Anne just had TWINS too. I can’t imagine dealing with all of this at the same time.
In so many ways Jesy is giving playing her Karen card like a vet - including weaponizing her tears for promo and enlisting the Black friend to go at a Black person while staying relatively clean (and silent). It's disgusting. And her whole esthetic on that Boys video was obviously supposed to draw from Black culture but it was a stereotypical viewpoint of our culture. For all the love she says she has for our music and culture, she has not been vocal at all about our lives mattering and our people. She wants our rhythm but not our blues.
Damn let her hair goooo sis lmafo you just read her rights and explained it very well💯
This comment needs to be pinned. 💯💯💯
She is not being a Karen
The music video is literally a recreation of the original. She’s paying homeage to Diddy.
@@karneissiawest7005 She’s using her Karen tears
Jojo is unbelievably underrated. Been listening to her since she was like 13.
Talk about it, been giving vocals since Get Out
Ms Maam, this is not about Jojo. Stop deflecting.
The girl can saaangg😭
@@maninedoow5895 deflecting from what?
Vocals out of this world 🌎 she is very underrated
Jade is also mix!! Her mum is from Egypt or something like that! And she also suffered racism when she was young
no cause, YOU are a REAL Barb. Thank you for holding Nicki accountable for what she did, and admit that although you stan, what she said was bullsh!t. Thank god we have people like you in the fandom.
People are complaining that Leigh-Anne only spoke out now, but a FEW points:
1. Jesy started going heavier on the tan, hair and lip fillers in recent years. Pre-2018 I would say it wasn't anywhere near as bad
2. Leigh DID tell her last year, as confirmed by Jesy herself, and allegedly Leigh's sisters also told Jesy about it before that
3. Leigh has been VERY open with how ignorant she was on racial issues before 2019, she's made huge strides in educating herself over the past 2 years, probably one of the only celebrities that actually put in work. So yes, now she's in a better place to talk about it
The barbs are mad, stanning the wife of a known rapist smh.
Also regarding the DMs, if they are real, Leigh didn't go to him asking him to make a video, she replied to his story and the "make a video of her blackfishing instead" was just a throwaway non-literal comment, people are acting like she was seeking out blogs to make videos dragging Jesy 😂
Unserious comment??🤣🤣🤣ok
I just want to say, i’m not defending a RAPIST but he’s not a paedophile, they were the same age
@@damnitsemman well you knew wrong with both. He was never a rapist and he isn’t a pedophile. The female involved was older then him and she consented. Her parents however did not like it and got him in trouble. Now back to the nicki part. Her fan base was her fan base before she fell in love with ken so trying to say “Stan the wife of” as if ken is the reason anyone is a fan of her is. How about some of you guys just mind your bussinees. You love to comment on others and not even know half the story
@@Bunnybunny5656 consented? With a knife pointed in her face? lmaoo 😂
My thing is this who are you as a person that can tell someone what they can and cannot do like we really have to start looking at each other as people and not the color of there skin because ain’t nobody saying nothing to the Kardashians
This is EXACTLY what I think! X
Oof, didn't expect Georgina here! Hiya!
Oh hi
hello! someone was impersonating you on twitter :( they were bashing little mix and defending jesy, putting you under a bad light. they changed their account now but you should probably clear that up because people believed it was you!
king and queen interaction
OMG! Georgina!!! 💕
It's crazy seeing the world finally catch onto what Rita Ora has been doing to keep herself afloat for YEARS. However I do disagree about the whole Dave Chapelle thing. Granted, I didn't watch the special because for one I've never been someone who enjoyed stand up comedy that much to begin with. However, being an effeminate black boy & growing up in the hood for me was rarely a funny experience. It was often emotionally, mentally, & physically violent & traumatic actually. I think what people should understand is that if you don't know a certain life experience rarely can you make jokes about that experience that land accordingly. TS Madison makes jokes regarding gay men & trans folks all the time & those jokes always make me laugh. I think that's because Madison has lived her life in both of those identities so she knows what it feels like. That's why her jokes usually tend to land more & it doesn't feel like there's any malice behind them.
I'm here and you spoke truth, as always. Much love and laughter
Nicki has become a walking contradiction. She called out this years ago and then gonna defend jesy with the blatant blackfishing. This was not her fight, Nicki gets herself into trouble because instead of doing the proper research and going off of what her supporters sends and tells her she goes off and then have to post and delete or edit later. And for jesy to sit there and laugh and let her say all that stuff was wack.
Love Nicki, but you are right she is a walking contradiction. She even talked all this mess about the vaccine and the following week got on stage at the Lil Baby concert, and had her baby on stage.
@@smooveboiwonder25 she had her baby on stage ??? What
I really don't know how Nicki is still getting through after all the recent events
@@smooveboiwonder25 her baby on stage?!! In the middle of the Rona?
@@mateusatalaia5707 because she knows no matter what she says the truth or a lie her fans are gonna believe and defend her.
I say this objectively and not just because I stan JoJo, but she is truly a fantastic example of a white woman who doesn't try to present herself as anything other than what she is. Some years back, there was an interview where JoJo was asked if she felt that she benefitted from being white in the music business, and she said she did. When I first saw Little Mix, I thought they were like the U.N. of girl groups because I thought Jesy was Hispanic, so I was surprised when I found out she was white. I have gotten black-fishing vibes from Jesy for a while, which is bad enough, but for Nicki to defend the black-fishing and put down another black woman to do so? Disappointed is an understatement for me. Nicki has been on some other stuff for a while, and, not that it matters, I'm finished with her. Great video, Zach!
i wish i could pin this comment but then realised it is not my channel😭. 100% agreed
AND YEBBA
Yeah i was uncomfortable watching the video the black fishing was so in your face and Yeah something tells me that nicki is going down a bad path I was a huge fan of her but I can’t ignore what’s going on here.
sorry the jesy hispanic comment has me screaminghehfb
and like nicki couldn't even really defend her so she pulls out the "other people do it too" card, as if that suddenly means it's ok for jesy to look nearly the same shade as nicki
Nicki try to defend her but still not going work. Black community not going to tolerate the disrespect.
Sakkari! Do you so went there! And I totally appreciate it. I am a blind white gay man who loves R&B music and now that you’ve described this video in detail I totally agree and I am just so happy that I found your channel because let’s be real you speak on the truth you speak the truth and you let everyone have it in the most honest and open way like we all need to have these conversations! Thank you so much for keeping it real and going there my dictation feature on my iPhone will not pronounce your name correctly so I will try it again thank you Zachary it worked it spelled your name correctly. LOL. But thank you again for these conversations.
"not a lot of white women currently want to be white", I am dead 😂😂😂😂
Jade is Egyptian and Yemeni. She's Arab and her mom is black. So no. We're not gonna "say she's white". She's not white. She is a woman of color just like Leigh-Anne so to say she is anything but is very disrespectful. It's disrespectful because she's been whitewashed and photoshopped to have more white features and she's become very confident with her heritage and culture in recent years. So what we're not gonna do is erase that. But otherwise you spilled in this video, and thank you for using your platform to share THE TRUTH!
Yo I just looked up Jessi Nelson mom because you said she was black. Girl where ? lol 😆 😂 🤣 she could be Arab but man girl stop ✋ she ain't black not even tan wtf lol 😆
@@cyn8732 I think your thinking of the wrong person..💀
@@cyn8732 she said jade.
Jades mom is not black 😂
This is why I love watching your channel. You always tell it like it is. ❤️
YASSSS! Zach you came through on this video! Thank you for speaking up about this. It's not right and hasn't been right since it began
Nicki loves to uplift a black woman but than tear her down when her bag is involved. I felt like Nicki should have sat this one out. We still don’t know if those messages were real. And I mean we’re talking about Leigh-Anne, the black queen that faced just as much shit as Jesy but just with racism instead. The woman that had a lot to say when my girl Cardi claimed LM wanted her over Nicki. Then Nicki liking tweets about Leigh’s fiancé…GIRL LEIGH MADE A WHOLE DOCUMENTARY HOLDING HER FIANCÉ ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE COLORIST TWEETS…HAS NICKI DONE THE SAME FOR HER HUSBAND. Not a black woman bringing another down!
Cardi was never offerd a LM collab
@@rkajr99 Cardi came out with the proof. Maybe their team offered it to Cardi without the girls knowing but that’s not the point…the point is Leigh-Anne being a Nicki fan made sure she had Nicki’s back. Or she was at least the MAIN one that did.
@@rkajr99 yes and little mix rectified that.. I think that's what she meant
Nicki was talking about the DOUBLE STANDARD !
People only chose on who they want to criticised when some people are allowed to do the same thing… it’s giving favoritism…
People don’t want to support the Jesy song because of " blackfishing " but we don’t see posts that say to not support the Kardashian’s business ? Yall litteraly made a blackfishing woman a billionaire tf !
And there are a difference between ;
« CALLING OUT » and « DEFENDING ».
Nicki didnt give her personal idea about this, Nicki was talking about it to the masses about yall double standard (that I just explained before).
If yall are so against the " blackfishing " go tell this to every celebrity that are doing this right now.
And then, for the Leigh Anne situation, it wasnt even about what she went through in her career (cause Nicki Minaj is also a black woman in this industry and she went through some stuff too!) BUT THATS WASNT THE CASE AT ALL !
They are TWO videos that showed Leigh Anne bad talking about Jesy to alter her image.
Nicki was talking about THAT ! (you can still see the live yall damn selves).
I don't think Nicki got paid, I think she did it for free, they're from the same label Nicki I'd defensive, you'll shouldn't have let Nicki go live then cuz she asked you.
It always caught me off guard when people talked about the two mixed women/women of color in Little Mix, and they referred to Leigh-Anne and Jesy... and not Leigh-Anne and Jade.
And I do wish people would acknowledge that Jade is mixed, and that her Middle-Eastern/Arab heritage is important, because it must suck to have people completely disregard her heritage and ethnicity... until they want to demean her for not being white.
Listen I remember when Jade spoke up about being mixed raced I was shocked
When I was just getting to know Little Mix, like 10 years ago, I thought there were three POCs in the group. It took me a while to see Jesy is actually white because she looked mixed back in the day with a darker skin than Perrie and curly hair (like in the Wings music video) but this thing has gone over the top now
The amount of times people have been confusing Jade and Jesy over these past few days is frustrating. It proves the point.
As a Middle Eastern woman who's grown up the past 10 years with LM I'm so beyond happy Jade is finally embracing her Middle Eastern side! She has been the only idol I've ever had that looks like me and has the same heritage and roots. Our heritage and culture is so strong and people need to start recognizing it for what it is. She's an inspiration ✨
@@willgpb_ I don't think I ever really thought Jesy was a POC, but when they first came out I thought her and Jade were related.
Taylor Swift: The Last White Woman
I’m STILL HERE !! Loved everything you had to say! Spot on
Jojo is SOOOOOOO DESERVING!!!!! She’s full of respect! And her music and her vibe gives off appreciation and never appropriation! She deserves her FLOWERS!!! That new EP is straight 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
“What about Leigh-Anne’s mental health Nicki?!” That part right there ☝️
That snap was EVERYTHING. Talk yo shit sis👏🏽
You preached on this today! This was so informative and honest!!
A lot of misconceptions are swirling due to the lack of reading comprehension skills from their two fan bases.
1. Those DM’s that Leigh had allegedly sent were proven to be fake.
2. Leigh did address the black fishing prior to her leaving the group. (Admitted by Jesy)
3. Someone on Little Mix’s team has expressed that they were trying to educate Jesy for years and it fell on ‘deaf ears’
4. Leigh has said NOTHING directly surrounding this since she’s been attacked.
5. Jade is a person of colour. Her mom is dark skinned. Jade is Arab.
Bye cuz you came with FACTS BABY
i’m sorry but if they were fake it would’ve been denied instantly, and her friends would be denying instead of just being angry at him
@@liliana5495 they were denied instantly. These have been debunked a while ago babe
@@liliana5495 girl bye…you think Leigh has time to have a social media feud with every No-name tik tocker that makes up shit about her after she just had twins? There is no way Leigh would message some random this. If you looked on Twitter for ten minutes you would see the videos and threads of proof that these were FAKE.
@@Br-ov7sd denial out of leigh anne or her team or just fans online /
Well said about JoJo!
She’s always paid her respect to the musical genre she’s in and since day one, rnb was and still is her main lane. It’s not like she was doing dance pop before and all of sudden decided to navigate in the soul/rnb style. It’s really genuine. She’s never tried to be something she’s not and kept loyal to the music she loves being popular or not, she’s true to it.
💯
Jesy didn't get much of a choice in the music Little Mix made.
Because JoJo is a white woman who was raised in predominantly black neighborhoods and was around black people and grew up on black music so that’s in her blood it’s what she knows.. she’s a white woman with soul.. same as Adele, Teena Marie, Amy Winehouse and Janis Joplin etc.. they didn’t need to wear gold teeth and darken their skin and come off like a parody to show they loved black music and black culture they did it respectfully which is why we love and adore them.
@@jozyhur585 well said 👏🏿
I loved EVERY MINUTE OF THIS VIDEO! Thank you ❤
I'm still here bbiissshhh 💕 Thank you for that learning. It was an educational call.
she didn’t deserve this sample. point blank. i think with a different song structure and lyrics it would’ve been perfect for normani; going along with her 90s/2000s-esque theme and style
I would love to her Normani do it!
Ooooo!!!😫😫😫😫😫 I didn’t even think of that. But you are on point!!! Literally the y2k aesthetic is Normani’s MO, so she definitely should’ve been the one to get this sample. You’re completely right.
Why y’all not blaming Diddy? It’s literally his song sample & he’s in the MV & he approves of it… blame the black man who agree to let her used it!🤷♀️ if they block the song then it wouldn’t be a big deal now! But the black man literally approved it all…
CHILE- Frrr
Like seriously what was diddy thinking green lighting this 🥴 you a fucking legend with a legendary sample and you use this on a blackfisher!!? When Mani/Chloe are there? Shit Sevyn/summer shit I’d take JoJo too!
Well the good thing about JOJO she NEVER dipped herself into the bronze spray and kinky hair to put on the look. lol I will always respect her.
Yes sis and that’s why we Stan Jojo. She saaangs R&B but stays in her lane and never tried to come off as something she isn’t.
I've loved her since the beginning! And this is just another reason why. 🤦🏽♂️ Thank you for stating this! I mean, JoJo didn't even need to be a topic for this discussion because we all know she has Never been about that drama, let alone any other type of. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽💯💯💯💯
Exactly tori Kelly , teena Marie, Jon b countless other white singers that respect love & sing r&b music .. not once have they tried to be “down” or try to be black in jesys case
@@user-gt3gr6bx8e don’t even get me started on Jon B. He deserved much better that’s all I got to say. They really dropped the ball on his career. But he to had to deal with his label trying to market him with more of an ethnic edge🤦🏾♂️. And he wasn’t for it.
@@jtaylor875 exactly his demise in the Industry is sad . But good thing we got “they don’t know” I still have that on repeat!
When you said: “marketing” the blood DRAINED out of my face because I had never realized. But it 100% makes sense. It is all about that.
Really appreciate this video ❤️
Honestly as a BARB and a big fan of Little Mix...I was very disappointed by this, Jesy did not have to make her departure from the group so messy and Nicki did not have to get involved in this mess. Blackfishing should not be acceptable period!!!
couldn't agree more
Facts 💯
Facts
Between the vaccine rant, and now this, I truly feel like Nicki is deflecting heavy from the ongoing case against her and her husband.
THIS.
Her husband’s case is already over.
That case is going to get thrown out who sues instead of calling the cops if they are being harrassed
@@sherryhoward7298 what exactly would the cops do that wouldn’t result in there eventually being a case? You need to understand the point of why she is suing, they are harassing her because all of sudden he doesn’t want to register as a sex offender in a new state when he’s been registering everywhere else he lived. I know don’t know the details of the case but I’m assuming a large part of this is because Nicki doesn’t want her home put on that registry list.
Very much this☝🏽
Protect ALL BLACK PEOPLE. That’s what Dave Chappelle was putting forth. He did more in one special than a zillion marches. Dave is Brilliant.
Let me say it for the people in back: JOJO HAS KEPT HER INTEGRITY!
People don't understand that JOJO earned the respect of the black community without appropriating the culture for her benefit. Love her ❤
My concern for Nicki's mental state has grown to new extremes as of this. After being a decade long barb and defending her through the 2018 saga, seeing everything hit the fan with her husband/vaccine combo really opened my eyes.
The worst part is, some terrible people I know now support her suddenly.
She is becoming a hateful person and its scaring fans. TRUE fans.
Bitch true fans don't switch up when shit gets rough
@@llll6815 trick you one of the ones I’m talking about. Don’t even know me but you will call me a bitch because I have an opinion. This shit right here 400 Alex.
@@llll6815 true fans will let their fave know when they’re wrong 😑. Yes she’s the Queen of Rap but where are y’all brains at??? I swear Nicki could k*ll somebody and y’all will still not acknowledge her faults. This proof some Barbs are really mentally unstable psychopaths
@@worksmith3dshorts708 why you deleting my comments?
@@llll6815 tell em, I agree with you. And they end delete people's opinions