Salem Weighs In On Ich, Uronema and His "Beef" With Raj
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- Опубліковано 18 січ 2024
- In this episode we talk with Salem about Remy's current ich problems, Aquabiomics test results and the apparent "beef" between him and Raj.
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I’m just grateful anyone listens to my rambling videos at all 😂 My apologies for the misinterpretation! I’m an adjunct writing instructor at a public university, and have listened to Reef Therapy on my walks to campus since the early days of the podcast. I think some nuance is probably lost in translation between the video format and the audio-only version!
Also, thank you all for the kind words about my channel. Reef Therapy (and ReefBuilders in general) has always played an important part of the hobby for me, especially since my town has no LFS or reef club, so it meant a lot to hear that. I have the utmost respect for Raj in taking over RB and keeping things going in such a refreshed and positive way. I was also thrilled, as a longtime BahamaLlama fan, when Remy joined RT - home run. And as Salem well knows, I love hearing his perspective on everything reefkeeping, and really appreciate how he makes the tough-to-grasp parts of reefing understandable for the everyday reefers like myself.
Keep up the awesome work. What all of you do means a lot to a great many of us in this amazing hobby.
Thanks so much for the support and keep up the rambling on your end!
WOW! The reef force is strong in this kid.
Man, thanks for working so hard on this stuff Remy, and dealing with a full time job. Reef therapy has gotten me through a lot of long shifts at the hospital. Keep it up boys, glad to see Salem back on
Ps. You guys inspired me to try live sand for seeding my new tank. Got my sand from indo pacific sea farms and have been super happy with what I got
Great conversations glad to see Salem back on. I need to pick up some Salem corals!
Maintenance Guy Chris here - Remmy don’t forget …. Copepods eat Uronema. Time to start farming brother❤ alternatively you could pull all the coral and hit the tank with metro… don’t know if you wanna go that far though. GL with the disease management
My boi Salem!!! Great seeing you in reef therapy
Seen Raj was on with reefbum that was a great one. You need to get him to come to Chattanooga reef stock. Keep them coming really like listening to you guys.
Love these podcasts. The back and forth is great, keep it up guys. Watching from Australia 🇦🇺
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Awesome! Can't wait to get out there soon
Great discussion guys!
Great episode, guys. I love listening to Salem talk. 👊
Interview request!!! I'd love to see Remy have a catch up on Luis Rosa's reef. Those were honestly one of my favorite videos from Jake & I'm sure he would've done some follow ups.
Reef therapy is awesome as always #whatsinyourwater
This was probably one of the most interesting talks in a while - I feel your dread Remy, it would be interesting to know if the uronema dna depletes over time? Everything has to have a predator? So surely in the live sand there is something that naturally will combat it?
Always a nice discussion. #whatsinyourwater
Dose Salem have a utube Chanel or a way to listen to him more
Not sure he’s got his own channel set up. Well, he has a channel, but not sure if he’s getting into content production yet. Would definitely be tuning in for every video if he did!
I have an old one - coral pharm
I have many articles up on reefbuilders and starting soon I will be around much more with reefbuilders
Most of my post are on Facebook
They should have an under water fight in Andrew Sandlers tank. 😂
It will be broadcast live - all proceeds go to coral restoration in the gulf
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Remy I had the same problem with pale acro. My experience, I added PNS and benapets and thr corals started to color up. Maybe look in to captiv8 ISOL8 MT. I started adding that as well and really noticed colors pop. Just my 2 cents. Good luck with the purple tang buddy.
great episode! #whatsinyourwater
Salem. Did you do any sensitivity testing on any pathogen you cultured? Really excited to see where you take the hobby!
Remy, might want to look into getting an ozone generator that you can hook up to your skimmer. It will oxidize the water that runs through the skimmer and kill any pathogens.
I will say it again, thank you very much Remy and Raj for keeping this going!! Salem is great on here, you three are good together🎉 #whatsinyourwater?
Thanks for your support!
🙋🏻♀️Somebody @raj 😆
Another great one with Salem. So impressed with his knowledge & maturity.
I was trying to NOT call you out!!
@RB-Raj Anonymity isn't necessary when you're looking out for your peeps 🐥 Ha, plus you weren't being a jerk 😇
Salem - I'm a 62 y/o reefer in Topeka. I'm in the process of a 180 build. I have reefed on and off since 1990. Before youtube I learned reefing from Moe and Sprung. I have never had mentors to personally learn from and share the hobby. I am a product of the internet. So how do I reach out to your Kansas City clubs?
I am actually located in Topeka and attend Washburn. There is a small group of us here that operate through Facebook. I have yet to have the first KC meeting but I plan on it being sometime this spring. If you have a facebook feel free to give me an add - would love to connect with someone new local.
@@salemclemens6148Did you work at PetCo in Topeka? lol
@@bplusreefer yes I did - about two years ago at this point
@@salemclemens6148 We spoke several times!
ex HS bio teacher here so i am very receptive to using my 180 for research in some way
Salem is the best guest of all time😆😆😆😆
Could consistent changes in water parameters make for hardier coral (not ph, but salinity, alk, Ca etc,)? Or is it detrimental, stress the corals and in turn they get infected?
Much of the coral stress response is genetically conserved. Constant small exposure to stress would likely lead to breakdown of the holobiont and cause dysbiosis/a pathogenic event just like a large swing would. It's all about how much damage is done by reactive oxygen species in the corals attempt to defend itself from infection and how well its able to repair the damage after that stress response. Overtime epigenetic factors may lead to corals becoming hardier in our tanks but this is done via propagation. You'll only see that hardiness increase in new polyp formation as response to stress exposure is encoded overtime. The process of aquaculture is one of artificial selection but because all of this comes down to genetics it is unlikely you would be able to speed up that resilience acquisition process to occur over a single generation. Without outside help multiple generations are required to yield hardier corals. At least those are my current thoughts on this with the information I currently know. But all of this can change as science advances and finds new things.
@@salemclemens6148 Thanks Salem. That makes a lot of sense. I just always see that people freak out over stability and then when something does swing out of balance the corals cant deal with the stress. I didn't even think of generational differences between corals, such a cool thought. It would be interesting to expose certain corals to a certain strain of pathogen repeatedly over generations to see how they can build an immunity
@@BIG-ES- While that would be great unfortunately corals do not possess any form of adaptive immunity. There is some evidence suggesting they may retain some element of non self recognition that is conserved short term but this is very emergent. They rely almost entirely on the innate immune system which is the shoot and ask questions later strategy our white blood cells employ. While I think its very possible to get them accustomed to abiotic stress I think constant exposure to biotic stress would only lead to more sick corals. I break down some of this in my immune response article.
@@salemclemens6148 Wow, I didnt know that they dont have the ability to form immunities. Jeez Salem, I am really down the rabbit hole now. Here is a pretty cool article I found published a while ago but still some good info.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20662364/#:~:text=Scleractinian%20corals%20(phylum%20Cnidaria%2C%20class,recognizes%20specific%20pathogens%20and%20allografts.
@@BIG-ES- No way - I just double checked and that's actually the same article I was referencing about there being some evidence of short term memory. I have planned for sometime about writing an article following adaptive immunity. I suppose I will write it this weekend - down the rabbit hole!
Remy, check your PO4 for pale sps. If you’re feeding your fish, then there’s enough nitrogen, but phosphorus is more important. If you need more nitrogen, then dose ammonium chloride, corals can utilize it much easier than nitrate.
Do you guys have a schedule with anticipated guests?
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That would be cool. Can't wait for Mark to jump on 😀
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Hi Guys! Love the podcast. I heard Salem is in the KC area! I've been trying to get our local reefing club back up and running for years. With his help I think we can make it happen. Pass along my name, I'd love to help.
What’s the club? I’m in KC too haha
Isn’t the consensus that Uronema is in something like 95%+ of tanks older than 3 years old? It doesn’t seem to be something that requires starting over if it’s in your tank. However, it’s definitely something to be aware of and something to plan for in the event of a stress event that causes an outbreak of Uronema. Know which of your fish are susceptible (chromis, anthias, angels, etc), know how to spot the symptoms, and know how you will treat symptomatic fish.
There is literature claiming that if you don't reintroduce any new ich parasites into your tank from now on, the parasite tends to "burn" itself out after about a year, losing its virulence and gradually fading away. But seriously, I'm listening to a reef tank discussion by people that don't quarantine? Quarantine can fail, but come on!?
Interesting! Can you link it here?
@@RB-Raj "Burgess and Matthews (1994) were attempting to maintain a viable population of C. irritans which could be used in later studies. To maintain the parasite populations, they needed host fish in order for the trophonts to feed and continue the life cycle. Each host fish was only used once in a process of serial transition such that none of the hosts would die or develop an immunity. While the procedure worked very well and enabled them to maintain populations for some time, the viability of the populations decreased with time and none of the 7 isolates they used survived more than 34 cycles, around 10 to 11 months. They suggest this is due to senescence and aging in cell lines is well recognised in Ciliophora.
The presence of aging cell lines in C. irritans suggests that an aquarium that has been running for longer than 12 months without any additions is unlikely to have any surviving "Ich" parasites, yet another exception to "Ich" always being present."
I used rally treatments and uv has worked for me to handle ich
I needa test my water! Hook a guy up! #WhatsInYourWater
We are here for the gofund me for the blinds!
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donations are accepted and appreciated LOL
Dam you guys freaking me out picking up 20 lbs of Tampa Bay Saltwater sand on sat. Got a ton of Cromis in the tank. 😮 #whatsinyourwater
let us know if you send in aquabiomics - everything is about sample size - I would be interested to know if yours also ends up yielding uro.
@@salemclemens6148 I have added TBS sand and rock to 4 tanks and done an aquabiomics test on each of them with no uronema results on any of them
@salemclemens6148 So far everything looks good 👍 will update ya when I get my results
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Salem may have janky blinds but lets not forget Remy had cardboard over his windows for YEARS! 😂
TRUTH. ~Remy
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