Nobody wants to be a teacher or a cop anymore | On Balance
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2024
- “On Balance” host Leland Vittert says the two most basic roles of service in society no longer appeal to Americans. People don’t want to be teachers or cops because they see how badly teachers and cops are treated. Until the prosecutors protect cops by locking up criminals and school boards protect teachers by enforcing discipline in classrooms, the problems will get worse, he said. Robert Pondiscio, former 5th grade teacher in the South Bronx and now a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, joins “On Balance” to weigh in.
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Nobody wants to take shit anymore
At least for cops , people who wanted to be one knew that they now will be held accountable unlike before where being a cop meant being above the law
Why be a cop? The pay is poor, it's very dangerous, and you can be sued into oblivion or put in prison just for doing your job. No friggan way.
Since when do cops get held accountable? The tax payer foots the bill every single time.
I'm old now but when I was young teachers could spank kids and for some reason kids respected them more than they do now
You're right about that I remember a teacher used to smack her hands with the ruler
no one hits kids anymore, it's why they have no fear and are lawless.
you will NOT spank my kid.
That's because kids used to have consequences for their bad behaviors. Now everything is gentle parenting where kids are coddled and talked to only, with very little real consequences. Kids in schools are out of control.
I was a teacher, of students between 11 and 13, and there were days I was so scared of them, so scared of the relatives (when there were more days of suffering than good), I decided to quit, I was lucky I re-trained and I was able to get another job because I had an ulcer and Insomnia and it was not possible to carry on. is just terrible the lack of interest, the lack of respect, the lack of so many things. I am from a generation in which teachers were not strict or cruel, and we had respect, we went to school aiming to learn and to become good adults, but that is gone.
I teach elementary school and I see the same behaviors in little kids too. They are rude, defiant, and entitled. Some of them are violent and will throw chairs, bite adults, and hit them. I've seen it multiple times.
When I was teaching, I had a 5th grader tell me that she didn't have to listen to me. Apparently she got that bit of advice from her mother. 🤦♀️
Stuff like that makes me chuckle.
I would've told her that she doesnt but she does have to follow the expectations to be in this class, otherwise her mother can pick her up and teach her.
Nobody will name the problem.
Communism
the true virus@@SteveXNYC
Parents
The schools are horrible, especially the public schools, the hospitals are worse, every public or civic job is worse than 30 yrs ago. Oh I forgot the military I left active duty in 2012, I have friends getting ready to retire they tell me the morale, and physical and mental training is down the drain
My husband is a public middle school teacher. Every day he comes home with one horror story after another. The kids are out of control and have no respect. Instead of being able to teach the few who want to learn, he spends a lot of classroom minutes dealing with bad behavior. If he sends a student to the office, administration sends them right back. The parents want to know why their kid is failing - even when they won’t take tests or complete any assignments!
When the paddle left schools so did respect ! Now parents are terrified to raise there kids ! Better my ASS !
Totally agree. I work at a school and so many of these kids are rude, disrespectful, and entitled. I never saw such behavior when I was growing up. Of course we had bad behaved kids but it was not to the magnitude that I see today. Kids are out of control
As a teacher, I'll take 100k a year for higher expectations, Ive already had all my classes above district average on assessments, so im good. BUT if youre going to crank up the expectations, I need the admin to have our back better and actually send kids home when theyre being a problem. The learning that occurs when you have a class of people who want to learn is phenomenal
Or Nursing. 30 years in and health care/managed care ruined quality care. You may think we get payed well but for what we do, it doesn’t come close to what we are worth.
Since we don't know you personally
Please tell us all what we always wondered
The nurse that greets us before the doctor comes in to see us how much does that nurse get paid for sitting at the computer asking questions weighing us and taking our blood pressure
I've always been curious about that
I think greed more than anything is the driving decline in our medical system.
Working for a nonprofit hospital here so try again.
Spare the rod, spoil the child. Spare the law, spoil the adult.
I love this guy, very straight forward and 0 bs
The kids are out of control
The cops are out of control
That last line he said is spot on. As a 30 year classroom teacher, he nailed it.
Parents sign a handbook in our school that states their student must obey the teacher and follow school expectations.
Why would you want a career where there is no respect, only partially demonstrated by what they are paid? Until the public changes its attitudes, they’ll be more communities with not enough teachers and police officers. Let them figure it out.
I’d rather have armed citizenry and AI professors; less taxes that way.
😆 lol.. That won't make our taxes ANY lower
It affects the great kids getting bullied to so full of anxiety they don’t wanna go to school. The school staff are not helping those kids and those ones the bullied not the bullies are the ones being underserved in my opinion. I’m about to take my kid out of school and keep her home schooled. Bullies get away with stuff it’s not on camera or not reported right away. I’m sick of it all.
Its like a prison. Kids tend to form a clic or group to have protection in numbers because the school fails to stop the bullies and punishes the victim if they defend themselves.
Or a nurse
Really? Because In school year 2021-22, there were 3.2 million full-time equivalent (FTE) teachers in public schools (source). In 2019-20, there were 0.5 million FTE teachers in private schools (source). And In 2022, there were 708,001 full-time law enforcement officers employed in the United States, an increase from 660,228 the previous year.Oct 10, 2023
Hell nah, I'll sit at my quiet desk and push buttons
NYC teachers make over 100,000 after 10 years
However that means nothing since the cost of living is so high…
The quality of the students
I'm in education and I even think $100k for 8 months of work as a teacher is on the high end, especially compared to local (Twin Cities) police officers who make under $100,000 a year for 12 months of work.
In education vs a teacher are not the same thing.
If you're actually a teacher, youd realize that we spend approximately 6 weeks of time unpaid. Additionally, idk about your district but we have 9 months of school. 180 days / 20 week days a month= 9 months. Then add in the admin days and we're at 190 days. Then add in the average 5-6 weeks of unpaid time you spend grading, spend at PT conferences, at open house, going to a game for the kids, calling parents. You're now at 10.75 months of work.
Is it 12 months? No. But is it 8 months? Certainly no.
@@ericreid8111 If you make a salary, you aren't 'unpaid' It's called an ANNUAL salary. If you dont like it quit.
yea the big thing the general public doesn’t get is that teachers work nights and weekends unpaid. Is it everyday? Not necessarily, but frequent enough that the say 8 months is ridiculous.
Courts mandated keeping kids in school no matter the behavior
Less job security for teachers would lead to massive age discrimination and we need job security to protect us from incompentent admin. Police and firefighters have more job security. This former 5th grade teacher is part of the problem. The lack of educational attainment is not the fault of teachers. Ban cell phones, give teachers academic freedom and insist that parents do their job. I can only do my job if a parent even halfway does theirs. Teachers are being gaslit left and right by admin and parents.
People complicate simple problems which makes it impossible to separate the wheat from the chaff. But the answers are out there, even on UA-cam. But this burnt out teacher from the last century fortunately left before No Child Left Behind. The fact is, most children are behind, they will always be behind, and over-schooling them does no good if they really belong in trades training. And that’s two thirds of the kids. Because most people are too stupid for college. But by cramming the schools with three times too many kids we grossly depress the available money to pay academics teachers. Then also the lecture method is obsolete and should be replaced by online academy provided in school buildings in computer labs with big screens, one per kid. Because since everybody’s addicted to screens then let the screens teach them and so so at their own pace and not as members of a class which needn’t even exist in the first place then they’re most certainly not going to pay attention to teachers who love to talk constantly. Why do we expect kids to have superhuman tolerance for boring people? And yes, most teachers are boring dullards, that’s why they’re teachers instead of scientists or writers or artists or much of anything fascinatin and dynamic. And I guarantee you that most of the misbehavior comes from the kids who belong elsewhere because they’re certainly not going to learn anything.
Kids' behaviors are out of control and society has become way too soft on giving out consequences. Gentle parenting has ruined our schools because kids are now coddled and negotiated with instead of disciplined for their bad behaviors. Teachers are fed up with the constant disrespect and aggression from students and very little support.
Gosh....wonder why that would BE???
Vigilante law is coming.
It's the clientele.
That's cuz they f-ed it up.
100k a year? You might be able to get by on that in some cities in the United States. Not many though.
Actually the teaching profession is attracting a lot of ☀️🍭🌈🦄 folk, it's the cops that are hurting the most.
The cops are suffering from their misconduct and violating the rights of citizens. They did it to themselves
All the problems that came out of the pandemic aside, the existing problem was the educational system in this country put more emphasis on liberal arts than it did on STEM (and this is probably still true (been out of college for 5 years now)).
If I want to go learn about greek mythology, I can use the internet or take an evening class for no grade as an adult. Cut the fat and see what happens.
The cops don’t deserve any more damn money!
They are already overpaid and have no accountability.
The teacher profession does need more money, but I wouldn’t increase any pay that will just go to their stinkin union.
Leland is such a bootlicker Badge Bunny
Saying "nobody" is clearly a false statement.
Its more like no one wants to be anything anymore .
This is the most accurate sentiment. The future is effing bleak and for anyone over the age of 60 they dont get it because they already lived in the best of times. They wont be here too see how bad things are going to get.
Pdfs do. 😅😢😅
Better pribate security guard and get rich like mr Bush black water contractor got rich out of war
Because we have no unifying principles anymore and we have a low trust society because we have no unifying principles.
A nation divided cannot stand.