CNC Woodworking Is Handmade (For Now)
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CNC routing is yet another tool that has changed the landscape of woodworking. Many woodworkers push off the idea that the products made with CNC machines are not handmade. This video I go into why I believe CNC Woodworking is still handmade and how one day that might not still be the case.
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I am subscribed to your channel simply because of your honesty. Everything else is a bonus. Thanks, more than anything for your honesty.
This was worthwhile. Thank you.
The CNC is just a progression. Someone probably (might still) once hand-carved that topographic map. Then someone else figured out they could cut the layers with a scroll saw. And then finally, someone (yourself even) figured out how to get a CNC to do it for them. There is still skill, there is still an art, there is still craftsmanship in building something like that. Even after the CNC is done with what you told it to do, there's still work to be done to finish creating the product you eventually sell. The product you imagined up before you ever did anything.
Any CNC whether it's 3 axis or more. Wood, metals, additive. We don't stick a block of material in and push a button and it "just works". That's the end goal, but there is a tremendous amount of work necessary to put that block of material in (or load that sheet of goods or that spool of filament) and push a button and it "just works". Simply having the machine does not mean that you will successfully create a beautiful and successful product. How many people make mistakes, learn from those mistakes and iterate and eventually have something that's repeatable, that's capable of generating income. Hopefully we learn with the less expensive materials before someone jumps into an expensive piece of wood or metal and get a setting incorrect or get a value/measurement incorrect and "waste" a lot of money.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the haters are a tad jealous or envious (maybe both, I get the two mixed up). That you spent your money on these machines. That you're able to use these machines to make a living. Rather than get off UA-cam and try and get their own machine, it's easier to blast off in the comments and direct that to some stranger.
FWIW, I like this style/format of video and would continue to watch. Looking forward to the next one and Maketember. Last year was so much fun!
I commented before I saw your comment, and agree wholeheartedly.
Well said
Nice lighting, brother. Great video both content and cinematography
You put that quite eloquently. Great video of something that needed to be said.
I fall short of eloquent. LOL
I feel that the hate towards new tools (i.e. CNC machines, Festool Domino, etc) falls into one of two categories. I'm too broke to buy it so it must be trash or You aren't a wood worker unless you gnaw the tree down with your teeth and shape it with your bare hands.
The second group is quite funny, because they'll readily use table saws, routers, miter saws and the like as if they're not "new-fangled" inventions.
But anymore, I just laugh at all of them. I've always been an early adopter and I love to learn new things. I couldn't afford a CNC, so I built one. It's not perfect, but I'm working on upgrading it now that I understand where I went wrong. But I can make anything out of wood on it. I just can't tackle non-ferrous metals quite yet. Way too much chatter in my weak ass gantry.
I have 2 CNC machines. Both are DIY - one from plans by Dave Gatton, and the other is 100% my design. I made them with my own hands. I have often wondered if I can call items I make "hand made" since I made my CNC machines by hand.
FYI - both Cody and I are going be guests on the youtube show "Making it up as we go" tonight"
Ham, what a well thought out POV mixed with relevant history. This could have gone on for an hour, what a relaxing way to spend a weekend morning.
I have a tremor caused by thyroid disease. My cnc replaces the circular saw and jig saw for accurate cuts. I don’t think the choice of tool should determine the classification of our work.
That, of course, is my opinion. Doesn’t make anyone else’s opinion wrong. We aren’t dealing with fact based evidence. We should all be gracious and allow others to have a different take on the subject without being mean spirited. Well done, sir.
I watched your video deciding which CNC to purchase a year or so back and have been watching since. Your willingness to talk to a camera and reach me and others to share what you have learned so far is appreciated. Your voice is refreshing in the blur of content available!
Thank you for this video. i get a lot of flak about my CNC work in my woodworking circle. You break it down and present it such a great simplified way. Thanks again.
Great video and POV. I believe that creating on a CNC is woodworking and that the naysayers are just frightened by the technology. We've all heard lead, follow, or get out of the way.
Sometimes it’s good to step back and look around. Perspective is important. It gives one a chance to review the past and plan for the future. Thank you for this channel and the content you provide! Keep up the good work.
Great video. I like the change up in lighting (vs the camera further back with full lighting) for the topic(s) today. A CNC is a woodworking tool, just a more sophisticated tool than a circular saw or a handsaw. The art comes in with the creation of the design (like the one you showed), getting the idea out of your head and into a digital design, choosing the wood, the bits, the feeds and speeds (oh my!). Much respect and thanks to you!
I enjoy videos like this from time to time. I particularly enjoy your channel because you are so transparent with the business side of things. I did web and graphic design for almost 20 years as a “side hustle”, long before the term existed. I was told once by a close friend that I was a true artist. I balked because I’d never seen myself as such. He reminded me that all the hours I spent to create original graphics and craft the perfect color palette, etc, was, in fact, an art form. I haven’t done that type of work for a few years now, and instead, enjoy some woodworking, some furniture rehabbing, as well as sign making and the like. I still don’t call myself an artist, but I do grasp the concept these days, almost 20 years later. No matter the medium, no matter the tools or materials involved, art is created in the mind of the maker and enjoyed by those who appreciate the skill behind the design. Just my two cents. 🙂
Looking forward to Maketempber
Thank you for being honest with your business and your videos. Nice work Hamilton!
awesome thoughts! And I agree with you. can't wait to see this course!
Love this video! (and all of your others)
You opened a can of Worms here Ham! LoL
A small point to argue, but a point I've made about CNCs and nicer tools in general is that they don't create nicer results by default but make it easier to make nicer results. Very few things these tools make cannot be achieved without them. That said, I'll take any advantage I can afford.
The music world has already gone through this transition with the dawn of DAWs (digital audio workstations). The performance aspect was circumvented towards a more technical, pre meditated approach. Much is the same with CAM work (computer aided manufacturing).
Technology is allowing average people the ability to bypass barriers that used to be gatekept by years of dedicated and focused practice. It also allows new ideas itself to be created by innovative uses of the new technology.
Some people will love it, some will hate it. Some will cling to old ideals, some will embrace new ones with little regard to the past, most will sit somewhere inbetween.
I find woodworking an interesting industry because it seems from a utilitarian perspective, CAM has made human craftsman redundant , but from this seed of despair a birth of creative production is emerging.
Interesting video, thanks.
I subscribed and followed because i enjoyed the woodworking content, but this is by far the best explanation/verbalization I've heard for why some people ate afrais of AI and other innovations.
I'm a programmer by trade, and have heard many others try to explain or discuss AI and possible downsides or dangers as well as positives, yet you have much more succinctly and understandably explained how the danger comes from not knowing what you as an individual are good at. And what your foundation is.
Bravo.
Enjoying all your content, do you have any videos of CNC software and designing ?
Bravo. Well said.
To borrow a saying from my 'Pew-Pew' hobbies, "Tools don't build. The person behind the switch does." Or in some cases the key. Methods will always evolve. And the best workers will always evolve with them.
I make "crap" too. Welcome to the club.
Well said!
How does the sand blasting work for the tooling marks? You have one that you recommend? I have a tray that I can’t possibly get all the tooling marks out with hand sanding.
We are in real time watching the demise and replacement of the horse and buggy. Even though this has happened before no one see that for what it is.
I also love how people assume that a CNC or 3D printer is just a push a button and get an object type of process.
This is always from people who've never used one.
As even if you buy the files, unless you have an extremely high end machine, it still takes a lot of work to dial in settings like the zero points and the bits or filament. The hold downs or build plate adhesion.
Then even if all that goes well, the clean up of any tabs or layer lines.
Etc.
All of which require knowledge and skill. Just a different ones than 'traditional' skills.
Amen Brother! Everyone has their own opinion on this topic-read a comment on your last video that was pretty adamant that "cnc is not real woodworking"... I'm sure that person doesn't use something modern like metal tools and only uses stone axes that they made themselves in order to build something out of rough logs. You are 100% correct the cnc is just a tool - the piece you create came from your own brain. I'm new to the cnc community and there is A LOT to wrap your head around. I wish that for a moment all folks could just appreciate the talents that others have- for instance I was not and am not a fan of Prince's music...was he a phenomenal musician? Yes he was. Is his style of music my 'go to' music when listening? Nope. I can still appreciate the simple fact that he was a great musician... wonder what Beethoven would have thought about the electronics and all the "new fangled" things he used... Do millions of people love his music? Yes, I simply am not one of them. And for anyone who cares, for me I very much enjoy Iron Maiden-is that everyones cup of tea? Nope not in the least.
Hamilton, you keep being you. Haters are going to hate... that is what they do. Whilst others, like myself, appreciate what you bring to the community. Be well and be safe with all those spiny 'modern' metal blades.🙂
Hamilton, this video is a much needed one. I am a designer by trade, so I know that nothing new comes out of the blue. You can copy what others have done, which is okay and the most common thing to do. You can better someone else's design by making improvements to it. This is even more rewarding. But you can also design something that has not been done before, and that is the most rewarding experience. All that doesn't change regardless of what tools you use, so the better the tools, the better the opportunities.
Thank you for your videos.
I've learned to ignore the future. It makes life happier.
Do you have an online store other than for CNC files?
You're all right, The Skill saw Hamilton talks about at the beginning of this video is a tool, A tool that helped the tradesman to work better and faster, Just as he talks about John Hennery working with his hands, He could do it, but the machine made it faster. That's called Progress People, The term I like to use to describe those who use the traditional way of building, I call that Old School. It's good to know but If I can do it a better way, I will. We're all tradesmen, some of us more then others....
Is the email link working? I get redirected but no place to enter an email. Just came across your channel and appreciate what your doing here. Thank you.
Thanks for letting me know! I updated the website recently and I guess it did something to that page. All fixed now.
Super job sometimes the video is well thought this is one.
Amen. 🎈
Amazingly well said thanks
People seek out the garage woodworker because they think they'll get the project for next to nothing.
That's it. Only reason. There's no romance to it, no "story" to tell.
For me, I still consider it handmade because you are an intricate part of the process. Yes, you have a machine that does the brute work, but you still have to program, prep, clean, finish, etc. Meanwhile, there are large woodworking companies that have whole floors of machines that produce cabinets or tables with very little hands-on. Cold and robotic I would describe it.
This is not to say larger woodworking companies cannot also be handmade. Look at WW (sorry, don't know if you have a filter like other channels) they do millions a year but still have hand-produced and finished items.
But the same argument has been said about digital photography vs "real" film photography and many other industries.
My biggest problem with this whole debate is the loaded term “hand made.” no doubt you intellectually made that, no doubt you had to do some hand processing. But calling that piece handmade is like calling your face clean-shaven because you trimmed your neck and your cheeks to clean it up a little bit.
Also, to add to that, the term, handmade, being loaded, puts an image into peoples heads of somebody using some kind of tools they control with their hand to make something. If I describe something I’m selling in a way that is intellectually justifiable, however, it gives the wrong image to a significant chunk of my potential customers then I need to do a better job describing what I’m selling.
@@buffalojones341 Very good point. Hand made is HAND made. Period. This can be unique, one of a kind but not handmade nevermind that you designed it
Do you use a table saw to cut your lumber? How about an electric drill? No? Maybe a planer? If so can you really say that whatever you made with those tools as handmade? You should be using handsaws, manual drill, hand planers... Those other electric tools make the task too easy... No skill involved
@@JB-ud4tv So in your opinion Ikea is also handmade as they do use the same tools, they do sort and set the wood, and they do some finishing by hand. Yes?
@@misohlavati nice strawman argument... I'm simply pointing out the logical fallacy inherent in the opinion/thought that a CNC is somehow more than just a tool.
Blah blah blah. Working with wood is woodworking!