@@Deno_7_ They can and they should! I do not want a half-baked game. With games like PoE2 or even Star Citizen for that matter, I want the creator’s vision to be fully realized.
I think Jonathan not liking D2 and trying to walk this new path is ultimately going to make PoE2 a landmark of a game. He's focusing on the gameplay, and his partners are focusing on what keeps people playing (loot hunting). And I think with them merging their ideals, it's just going to be beautiful.
It seems like the 2 delays were attributed to major overhauls. First, WASD. Once that was added the game changed drastically and for the better by the looks of it. That took a ton of time to redo animations. Then due to player feedback from various events, they decided that being locked in place to cast spells felt awful when ranged classes could shoot while moving. Delayed again to redo SO. Many. animations lol. so that they can keep everyone feeling mobile and I'm guessing the shield blocking also came in late. Lots of big changes occurred close to beta that they decided it was the right call to have these things in the game and it required more time.
one little detail that probably happens not a long time ago, they removed the support skill gem example from the poe2 page, it fits with the way Janathan talks about them rethinking the support gems :o
I'm glad that they're emphasizing different builds. The one thing that I hate about POE 1 is the necessity to focus on one major skill. I want to play a mercenary that summons skeletons so I can say "rattle em boys!"
idk if this was one of the Co-Founders but Brotherlaz who created the Median-XL mod for D2 that still is developed now by other guys was on of the OGs at PoE 1 he did tons of item and Crafting design iirc.
I know what you mean I wish I would have got the Diablo 2 collector's edition back in the day I did get the Diablo 3 PC collector's edition and I was super happy about it until I discovered how bad D3 was and in my opinion still is due to the lack of storage space That's my biggest pet peeve I mean how are you going to be okay with only having enough space to store a few character legendary or ascended sets you literally do not have enough room to store all the crap unless you just delete everything from each character before you start a new character and that's stupid. Which is probably why I love path of exile so much.
Dude, I wonder if you are genuinly interested in this game or they actually paid you to speak ONLY positively about the game. You sound like the least trustworthy guy I have ever heard of tbh :(.
Fun fact… d2 devs blizz north were also structured this way.. some passion was in loot, others in gameplay. Mixed together it made the goat. Poe2 is the closest to an actual d3.
I mean, Krillson definitely threw out his ideas when they weren't working, he just never allowed his team to take the heat for any of their decisions. PoE changed completely from how it was in 2013, if Chris never changed his mind, it wouldn't be this different.
It was a pretty bad summary, he adds a LOT of things that Jonathan didn't say. Like saying it's a good thing that his vision of the game is the only one that matters, and then trying to slide in later that he's "willing to reevaluate every single mechanic." Jonathan didn't say that, he just said he was more open to changing his past decisions. Talkative Tri summaries are complete pandering, he does it because he's watched which streamers GGG will work with and seen how all of the ones who shill hard get podiums and the ones who give legitimate criticism never get spotlights until they've streamed and made content for 3-4 years.
I'm curious to see how they will balance endgame because it's clear to me that many players want POE2 to go back to the same style of builds as POE1, which are one skill builds that just run around killing everything. I'm not against those types of build existing but I do hope they don't become the main endgame type of build.
I think this is where PoE1 comes in. If they are not prepared with the changes in 2, they can definitely go back to 1 and still get updates. Also, since PoE2 is done, devs can again be split efficiently to work on both games rather than PoE2 is heavily focused these past years.
One thing I don't like about PoE 2 is that I hope things change towards endgame speed. The ability to continue to push forward rather than one step forward and 5 steps back.
@Tri Hi mister, me again hehe, I don't know if you did anything to decrease the off-sync, at first glance it does look better than the other videos (sync-wise) but in the end its still not perfect; in this one the audio delay is down to 100ms, which technically is a win, but as we want perfection when its in our grasp I suppose we still need to lower to 0ms off-sync. Btw I love that video a lot, don't be mistaken hehe. 100ms to go mister! 💙
@@TalkativeTri As I keep asking but you haven't answerted yet, are you recording using OSB? There is a way to add/remove ms to audio while recording, that might be the solution!
@@TalkativeTri Maybe its not a YT problem, but when you originally record. Wihtin OBS search for 'Advanced Audio Properties' you will see there is a 'Sync Offset' setting, just try adding or substracting 150ms, record a snippet, then watch the video. It should be quite obivous which one looks best.
This love for grind needs to have a limit. PoE 1 endgame has ballooned to that you often have to pointless grind just so you can do another grind that maybe have some small reward after a session (often not even that). This is not the way to go for PoE2. Diablo 4 despite the shallowness actually has a good balance to amount of grind in the endgame, you can say there is not much content to grind but the d4 devs at least know how easy it is to burn out from endgame and doesn't try to drag it out too much.
The fourth co-founder of GGG was Brian Weissman. I'm pretty sure he only worked remotely from the US and didn't live in NZ. He was involved with design work, such as naming items, passives skills, and flavor text. I think he is pretty famous in the Magic the Gathering community.
Imagine, if they had 9000 developers, a massive budget, advertising everywhere, false claims (make any build you want, with any character you want, the way you wanna play it and have no problems clearing content cough cough pre-launch D4Bad pitch) and getting the game just good enough for release, what kind of game PoE 2 would be. Thank goodness Johnathan Rogers and team are doing the right things.
It's fun to take shots, but it's very unlikely that PoE will have a campaign that comes even close to D4. For the actual majority of the people who play the game, that's going to mean more. Your CoD bro neighbor isn't going to care about how good the game is after hour 20, you have to convince them that the game is good during hour 1. A big part of that is cinematic appeal, and D4 does that better than anyone else in the scene. GGG cannot compete with Blizzard on cinematics. It's just not going to happen. They don't have the budget to put out even one cinematic on that level,let alone an experienced in-house team of cinematics experts with decades of experience.
PoE1 campaign may not be on par because we never had a nostalgia of PoE lore back then. Diablo will always be intriguing no matter how bad it is just because they have the Diablo title as it was a revolutionary game more than 2 decades ago. Imagine, would D4 sell if they named it Lilith? Diablo is nowhere in the campaign yet they use his name. PoE2's campaign may be really good but they can't have a cinematic just like blizzard's because of the budget. I'd rather have a good working game than a subpar game with cool cinematics. PoE end game story is interesting enough that i would consider it better than D4.
So what you're saying is D4Bad's main appeal is skin deep with a static story and cinematics, while the evolving part of the gameplay is where PoE 2 and GGG prevail? Cinematics and story are great. But if that's all the game has, that's pretty sad. I can't agree about D4Bad's story being good or decent, but it was okay at the very best. Too many plot holes from previous games to D4Bad. But I'll admit the cinematics are amazing. But that's it, unfortunately.
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"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad” - Michael Scott - Wayne Gretzky - Jonathan Rogers
Can’t keep delaying forever, no game is perfect. A game with active development is a better than no game.
@@Deno_7_ They can and they should! I do not want a half-baked game. With games like PoE2 or even Star Citizen for that matter, I want the creator’s vision to be fully realized.
@@a1pha_star the game is gonna be half baked regardless lol
None of those guys said that man...
It was a joint statement by Ghandi and Nelson Mandela
@@Deno_7_ You just don’t get it. 😂
I think Jonathan not liking D2 and trying to walk this new path is ultimately going to make PoE2 a landmark of a game. He's focusing on the gameplay, and his partners are focusing on what keeps people playing (loot hunting). And I think with them merging their ideals, it's just going to be beautiful.
You manic madlad. I had trouble hanging through this one but you still pulled off the video, pro move.
amazing summary my friend, you eloquently and comprehensively explained what I wanted to know and I appreciate it, I'll be waiting for November 29th!
It seems like the 2 delays were attributed to major overhauls. First, WASD. Once that was added the game changed drastically and for the better by the looks of it. That took a ton of time to redo animations. Then due to player feedback from various events, they decided that being locked in place to cast spells felt awful when ranged classes could shoot while moving. Delayed again to redo SO. Many. animations lol. so that they can keep everyone feeling mobile and I'm guessing the shield blocking also came in late. Lots of big changes occurred close to beta that they decided it was the right call to have these things in the game and it required more time.
This.
one little detail that probably happens not a long time ago, they removed the support skill gem example from the poe2 page, it fits with the way Janathan talks about them rethinking the support gems :o
Wow nice catch.
They should get rid of the piano bottle use play style.
2 bottles max.
Cow level in POE2. That would be the funniest thing
A Cow level in PoE2 before we could unlock it in D4...
@@omegasybers1110 Blizz really dropped the ball with that one. smh
Rhoa level?
^RHOOOOAAAAAA
It should be a sheep level. GGG are kiwis after all.
I'm very excited to try out the monk and mercenary.
I'm glad that they're emphasizing different builds. The one thing that I hate about POE 1 is the necessity to focus on one major skill. I want to play a mercenary that summons skeletons so I can say "rattle em boys!"
idk if this was one of the Co-Founders but Brotherlaz who created the Median-XL mod for D2 that still is developed now by other guys was on of the OGs at PoE 1 he did tons of item and Crafting design iirc.
wake up babe new tri video dropped
what is the BGM? I have heard it somewhere before... Heroes? Tales of? FF? RTS(age of empire/mythology)?
Age of Mythology
I know what you mean I wish I would have got the Diablo 2 collector's edition back in the day I did get the Diablo 3 PC collector's edition and I was super happy about it until I discovered how bad D3 was and in my opinion still is due to the lack of storage space That's my biggest pet peeve I mean how are you going to be okay with only having enough space to store a few character legendary or ascended sets you literally do not have enough room to store all the crap unless you just delete everything from each character before you start a new character and that's stupid. Which is probably why I love path of exile so much.
Dude, I wonder if you are genuinly interested in this game or they actually paid you to speak ONLY positively about the game. You sound like the least trustworthy guy I have ever heard of tbh :(.
Fun fact… d2 devs blizz north were also structured this way.. some passion was in loot, others in gameplay. Mixed together it made the goat. Poe2 is the closest to an actual d3.
he said "it doesn't matter if it came in 2023 ir 2024" . . . so december mb lol did he hint release date they want to.
Pretty sure one of the other founders is making a TCG called Sorcery.
That's Erik Olofsson, the creative dude!
They should def play D4, im beyond hooked on season 4. Hated the game since release, im a 4k hours poe player.
9:59 Sneak dissing Chris Wilson xdd
I mean, Krillson definitely threw out his ideas when they weren't working, he just never allowed his team to take the heat for any of their decisions. PoE changed completely from how it was in 2013, if Chris never changed his mind, it wouldn't be this different.
Thanks for the interview summary
It was a pretty bad summary, he adds a LOT of things that Jonathan didn't say. Like saying it's a good thing that his vision of the game is the only one that matters, and then trying to slide in later that he's "willing to reevaluate every single mechanic." Jonathan didn't say that, he just said he was more open to changing his past decisions.
Talkative Tri summaries are complete pandering, he does it because he's watched which streamers GGG will work with and seen how all of the ones who shill hard get podiums and the ones who give legitimate criticism never get spotlights until they've streamed and made content for 3-4 years.
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And remember guys:
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Enjoy the night!
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Thanks for the share and for listening! Loved the recap and thanks for using a good screen grab of me!
how about poe2 dont' make people play the dam campaign over and over every season
8:29 breast physics on the right girl. GOTCHA
BroTri new Vid? Letsagow!
Hope you can make a video about "all poe1 secrets" that kinda sounds cool especially to new players :)
I'm curious to see how they will balance endgame because it's clear to me that many players want POE2 to go back to the same style of builds as POE1, which are one skill builds that just run around killing everything. I'm not against those types of build existing but I do hope they don't become the main endgame type of build.
I think this is where PoE1 comes in. If they are not prepared with the changes in 2, they can definitely go back to 1 and still get updates. Also, since PoE2 is done, devs can again be split efficiently to work on both games rather than PoE2 is heavily focused these past years.
I had no idea Jonathan played Dungeon Siege
Holy based
One thing I don't like about PoE 2 is that I hope things change towards endgame speed. The ability to continue to push forward rather than one step forward and 5 steps back.
i'd like to have an option to see the dmg numbers when u hitting monsters :D
They mentioned yes but on bosses and numbers are visible in their HP bar. Like elden ring damage numbers.
Hi Tti . I have a question for Jonathan Rogers. Why the face of the witch and the sorceress is the same.
Thanks for the answer
I can't tell the exact words but they mentioned that they are the same person but different upbringing depends on what class you choose.
@@CCSplinters Thank you
damn bro is glazing so hard
What is going on next week that you get to play POE2?
Creator event!
This laid back style is so good. It's much a more relaxing experience to listen to the info bits.
Diablo 🤝 PoE
I still don't think everyone needs to play the game dumbing it down and appealing to a "much wider audience" is were they start to lose me.
Incorrect
Delays may suck but I hope GGG takes all the time they need!
u should cover that door as ppl will get gelose :P
damn i thought 2 hand spears were in the game rip
you havent posted your twitch interview on youtube, any chance of doing that?
I did, it is on this channel!
When will you be able to post your content from the console event?
Yes! Everything.
Is that music from Inotia 2?
Age of Mythology.
@@TalkativeTri thank you! Enjoy your well earned trip to POE2 land!
@Tri Hi mister, me again hehe, I don't know if you did anything to decrease the off-sync, at first glance it does look better than the other videos (sync-wise) but in the end its still not perfect; in this one the audio delay is down to 100ms, which technically is a win, but as we want perfection when its in our grasp I suppose we still need to lower to 0ms off-sync. Btw I love that video a lot, don't be mistaken hehe. 100ms to go mister! 💙
I redid all the connections AND I touched the gain. I might just get a new mic bc I have no clue what it might be.
@@TalkativeTri As I keep asking but you haven't answerted yet, are you recording using OSB? There is a way to add/remove ms to audio while recording, that might be the solution!
@@dIggl3r yes, I am using OBS but Google has not helped me out here ;(
@@TalkativeTri Maybe its not a YT problem, but when you originally record. Wihtin OBS search for 'Advanced Audio Properties' you will see there is a 'Sync Offset' setting, just try adding or substracting 150ms, record a snippet, then watch the video. It should be quite obivous which one looks best.
Gonna have my wife watch as I am helpless. Trying it out now, thanks dude!
This love for grind needs to have a limit. PoE 1 endgame has ballooned to that you often have to pointless grind just so you can do another grind that maybe have some small reward after a session (often not even that). This is not the way to go for PoE2.
Diablo 4 despite the shallowness actually has a good balance to amount of grind in the endgame, you can say there is not much content to grind but the d4 devs at least know how easy it is to burn out from endgame and doesn't try to drag it out too much.
The fourth co-founder of GGG was Brian Weissman. I'm pretty sure he only worked remotely from the US and didn't live in NZ. He was involved with design work, such as naming items, passives skills, and flavor text. I think he is pretty famous in the Magic the Gathering community.
He definitely did way more than just making some names... He did a bunch of the interviews and was the de facto face of the company in 2012.
poe2 hype poe2 hype poe2 hype
Imagine, if they had 9000 developers, a massive budget, advertising everywhere, false claims (make any build you want, with any character you want, the way you wanna play it and have no problems clearing content cough cough pre-launch D4Bad pitch) and getting the game just good enough for release, what kind of game PoE 2 would be. Thank goodness Johnathan Rogers and team are doing the right things.
It's fun to take shots, but it's very unlikely that PoE will have a campaign that comes even close to D4. For the actual majority of the people who play the game, that's going to mean more. Your CoD bro neighbor isn't going to care about how good the game is after hour 20, you have to convince them that the game is good during hour 1. A big part of that is cinematic appeal, and D4 does that better than anyone else in the scene.
GGG cannot compete with Blizzard on cinematics. It's just not going to happen. They don't have the budget to put out even one cinematic on that level,let alone an experienced in-house team of cinematics experts with decades of experience.
PoE1 campaign may not be on par because we never had a nostalgia of PoE lore back then. Diablo will always be intriguing no matter how bad it is just because they have the Diablo title as it was a revolutionary game more than 2 decades ago. Imagine, would D4 sell if they named it Lilith? Diablo is nowhere in the campaign yet they use his name.
PoE2's campaign may be really good but they can't have a cinematic just like blizzard's because of the budget. I'd rather have a good working game than a subpar game with cool cinematics. PoE end game story is interesting enough that i would consider it better than D4.
So what you're saying is D4Bad's main appeal is skin deep with a static story and cinematics, while the evolving part of the gameplay is where PoE 2 and GGG prevail? Cinematics and story are great. But if that's all the game has, that's pretty sad. I can't agree about D4Bad's story being good or decent, but it was okay at the very best. Too many plot holes from previous games to D4Bad. But I'll admit the cinematics are amazing. But that's it, unfortunately.
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