Got a kick out of the Donut Media reference 😅👌🏼 Noice! On the subjects of bikes, I've ridden both modern and older sports bikes (whilst working in a bike dealership mechanics), and I completely agree that old school liters have way more soul. I currently have both a 1994 ZZR1100 (ZX-11) and an 08 Bandit 1250S, and previously owned a 1996 CBR900RR because of this preference. Less technological motorcycles mean greater rider input and more immersive, fulfilling experience as a rider 💯✊ Awesome vid Yammie Noob team!! 🍻
Most difficult dangerous bikes I ever rode were the late 80s-early 90's GSXR1100s. It's a miracle after owning one as a kid not even old enough to buy a beer & being a green rider that I lived through having it.
Oh my god u just reminded me of my first street bike which was a1992 gsxr 1100 and that was a crazy pig a mirracle I’m alive + I crashed on that bike a lot 😂😂 learned the hard way
Man the ZZR 1100 with a 5 speed gearbox.... insane bikes.... for hard man...not for these new loolypops....hehehhehehe...... Breaked my femur in 9 parts....3 months in the hospital and 17 of fisio after crashing a 1996 CBR600 I bought the 900 Fireblade....hehehehe...... now have a Mille 2003
@@carlosmacedo1700 we have some similarities my first bike was a 96 CBR f3 which I crashed once in the learning process and my brother had a 2001 Millie the yellow one I rode it more than he did so I'm claiming it. Currently on a Ducati
@@silverback3541 Italian bikes are awesome... the mid 2000 with those V2 savage raw engines.... I love my Mille. the breaks suspension and frame are perfect...specially after you tune it all for your riding style... Good rides and stay always safe...regards from Portugal
My son in law had a Ducati 1098 in red a few years back. Beautiful bike but lots of maintenance to keep it in proper and safe tune. My son in law put in the time to keep in it in shape for fun rides. It is not just a 5 minute precheck, there is always something to adjust. A young guy bought it from him because it was a rocket but wanted to return it when he realized the maintenance monster he had purchased. NO RETURNS, that's life.
If you talk about the Ducati and 1000cc bikes and what's good today. Hands down a tuned Ducati 2009 1198 is stock 97 foot pounds of torque . With a system exhaust ECU and tuning triple What's better today for that kind on used price ?
Wait a minute ! Bikes of a good since 2006. Ducati said that had with tuned motors 200 hP far before all other bikes but the tuned KTM . The tuned KTM IS 220hp The Ducati 200hp But the torque is far more than any other bike. The cc are more.
As an experienced rider I think mid-late 00s for supersports to early 10s for nakeds was the peak of the riders bikes. Riders bike as in a drivers car. Now they’re undoubtedly faster around a track and more accessible at the same time sure, but that doesn’t make them as fun or satisfying to crush the twisties or the track on. The analog throttle and seamless unobstructed braking power and heavy clutch cables will always feel better to me than the electronic throttle, cornering abs and super light clutch’s. It just doesn’t smack right
I have a question Right now, as my first bike I'm riding a 1997 bandit 600n, and I really like it so for my next bike in 2 years I'm hesitating between an older bandit 1200 or a newer bandit 1250 Which one do you think I should get? The main differences is one has more electronic components while the other has not I think haha
I personally believe motorcycles peaked in the late 1990's/early 2000's as you seem to be forgetting the Honda Super Blackbird and the Hayabusa. Both pretty fast and yet relatively comfortable.
@@jerryglennie5375 I completely agree. I've never had a bike with any rider aids and I guess that's why I see those as unnecessary add-ons that I'd just as soon not pay extra for. My current bike's old ('88 Suzuki Katana 1100) and although I've had to brake pretty hard at times, ... even with the wife on the back, I've never once thought "gee I wish I had ABS". Ride safe brother and have a great day.
06 for the gsxr and 2008 for the cbr still unmatched 0 order aids with modern suspension and any braking power/feel you want is up to you and affordable. Weight and power get the nod as well. The bussa is a pig there awesome legends like cafe racers but belong in photo albums and short rides to have fun with classics at events etc.
I have to 1098's little brother the 848 and absolutely love it. No ABS, no TC, but still some good features and a nice dash. Great ride and a lot of fun. Just about perfect sport bike for the street if you ask me
The graphic is actualy so awesome because it's true. I've sold '09 R1 because it was too much for me on the street and bought '03 954RR in mint condition (lucky bastard) and I've never been happier. I can only imagine how powerful modern bikes are, even if I had finances to buy one of those (RR-R, M1000RR, V4, etc...), I'd still have and "oldie" in my garage. Cheers Yammie and the team, awesome video!
I personally like the older bikes without the technology of ABS or traction control that will let you get yourself into trouble if you are stupid enough to push it that far... 😁😁 Just like I prefer the old muscle cars from the 60s and early 70s that had way too much horsepower for the factory tires and suspension so it took a real driver to control one... I enjoy a vehicle that not everyone can get in or on and drive. 😱
Totally agree. Also terribly overrated are fuel injection, tubeless tires, electric starter, electronic ignition, disk brakes, throttle-by-wire, liquid cooling, and even four-stroke engines. Bikes like the 1969 Kawasaki H1 500 are far more visceral with drum brakes, tubed tires, points ignition, carburetors, kick starter, two-stroke triple, and everything else that made this the original widowmaker. I had one. I have no idea why everyone bought the new technologies as they emerged. Even I succumbed; I ride a 2020 BMW S1000RR that is different from the old H1 in every respect except for having two wheels.
The only welcome addition for me was a slipper clutch. If you ever ride aggressive in canyons. The rear tire locks up on downshifts for a fraction of a second. You have to finesse with your shifting.
05 R1 here, I had this conversation with my buddies earlier today funny enough, his 10r has all the bells and whistles and I'm like "I can track two trips"
I got the 2005 r1 in red with exhaust under the seats. It was a real pleasure, no traction control, no abs, just pure feeling and very fun. I don’t like all the electronics in the new bike those days.
I have 3 ducatis. All of them are old bikes. They are SS900ie, ST3S, and 1098S. I like the triangular iron frame because it's soft. Injection is perfect for regular use. Furthermore, I would be excited if it had the Ducati emblem on it. I maintain it myself, but every time I maintain it, some parts are replaced with external products. This is to increase their reliability. I will be riding these bikes as long as I have parts. I hope that junk cars in good condition will remain on the market for a long time. I might not be interested in a new bike. Turn around the mountain pass with some fun. Take it easy and go to a cafe a little far away. I'm going on a motorcycle trip with my wife. I can enjoy all of them on my bike. I love Ducati. I feel good watching this video. I wish you all the best in your endeavors.
My liter bike had character... 1961 HD Ironhead stroked to 61', welded on hardtail and springer. Blued all of the steel, leather bib and walnut veneer for a dash. Walnut, Blue Steel and Gun Leather. As much as it had character, it built character. Riding it was like riding a jackhammer in heat. Cheers!
I've been debating this point in my head for a while now. New bikes come with a warranty, guaranteed never abused, have ABS, and some other fringe safety features but they also have electronic throttle valves and lean fueling which I think could hurt their reliability in the long run. The old bikes are bulkier and risk a history of abuse but a lot more pure and raw and you get what you ask for unlike the new bikes which filter everything through a computer. I still haven't decided which is better for me. I think a 3 year warranty would be really nice.
The warranty leaves you after 3 years, the character of the old bike will be with you forever, something you won't get bored of or make you feel outdated as newer bikes come by every year with newer technology and faster than before.
I faced the same scenario, 04/05 Honda CBR1000RR vs 16 Yamaha R1M both second hand. Decided on the R1M and never looked back. Simple things like a slipper clutch, that the CBR didn’t come stock with, modern suspension, better wheels etc.
@@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 I'm at a similar spot. O6-07 CBR 1000 vs new ZH1 or used 1299S or used cbr1000rrsp. Different prices but I still can't decide
@@calebsunder yeah the only issue is that used Ducatis aren't reliable and there aren't many used bikes that are supercharged. Lot of factors to weigh but I really like the look of the mid 2000s bikes. Kind of the golden era for me.
@@ChrisG1392 if you can get a well maintained 848, reliability won't be a huge issue. Of course it'll cost more than a Japanese bike in terms of maintenance, but apart from the desmo service at every 7500 miles, most other things are pretty standard. Of course it's got a riding experience like no other Japanese bike as well.
My first bike is a 1985 Honda CB700SC and I still love it. Older bikes just have that raw charm to them and I genuinely believe they’re better to start on since you can learn to wrench on them yourself and teach you how to be a good rider without a computer saving your behind.
Every reason you guys touched on is why I love my 1098s. Two issues are the heat you spoke of and the mirrors are useless. Only bike that got close to heat is my TL1000R, my RC51 isn't as hot as the other two. My goal when I got the 1098 was to get as much as I could that didn't have electronics on helping. With that said when you turn the electronics off on the Honda like Geoff May had to to race it because he didn't like the electronics it is still rideable if you have that top 2% skills. If not, never ever turn them off!.
I have a 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille.... Man, the feeling compared to the new ones I had the chance to ride is like nothing you can ride this days..... forget about those new bikes.... buy a 2005 GSX-R, a Ducati or a Mille..... spend some money on good tyres, suspension and brakes (only on the GSX-R cause the Mille and Ducatis have Brembos and great suspension) and have fun....
Done! 5+ years and 27,000+ miles Currently Supercorsa's and a few months with Dyno tuned flashed and remapped 😍 Only 125hp at the wheel But my 750 keeps me on my toes😁
Couple of reasons I keep my old 2001 R1 in the stable. First I'm afraid to sell it to someone who has grown up with traction control and abs etc. They might end up in a jam because the bike will give what you ask for without holding back. Secondly the throttle response and braking and just every input you make being so exactly what you expect, it is lovely.
Valid points. I went from an MT09 to an MT10, both of which have the tech, to a cbr1000rr, which has nothing. I was a bit scared but so fa I'm managing. I'm having way more fun in the Twisties. I've had it for a week and a half and already put 1k on it.
Agree 100%. I had a Suzuki SV1000S in the mid 2000s. No rider aids, no abs, not even a fuel gauge 😆. What a great bike though, total visceral hooligan machine and totally reliable, I miss it!
I ride a VTR1000F which is so much fun. It makes me sad that the world has fallen out of love with V -twin sport bikes. For the road, nothing beats them.
I just like the transition in you YN from ducati-biscotti to "that thing is awesome dude!". Had 848evo '09 for few years, loved it, it was a playful thing to ride, so I can imagine that this displacement makes it even better. Thumbs up!
I've never ridden a modern litre bike to compare but it's like I have no desire too! The pure joy of riding my CBR 954rr FireBlade is what does it for me!👍
Electronics vs experience? I'll take experience every day of the week. Manny years ago I once pulled away from the lights & did a huge stoppie in front of a police car that pulled out of the side st to chase a red light runner after I had started to take off. No ABS, no traction control or nanny electronics of any kind. I still remember the shocked look on the police woman's face as she saw me coming towards her, and the huge grin that I had on my face looking down on her with my back wheel up in the air. It's one of many riding moments that I'll never forget, but would never have happened with a modern electronically assisted bike.
You cud do a stoppie with a BMW M1000RR… Have seen it done many times. Max Wrist has it almost as a trademark move. So that is a thing you can do on a new bike.
Completely agree. Given the long development time of engines, when they put out this bike, they may have already started development of their V4 engine, as they knew the L twin was nearing the end of its life.
My dad used to have a Suzuki TL1000S with aftermarket cans and it sounded like thunder going down the road. I recently found out that it was nick named the widowmaker because a journalist died while testing it. It had a rotary damper on the rear that could overheat on bumpy roads.
Drive by cable, no electronic nannys and 160 hp twin? That is sublime. The Ducati Streetfighter version of that superbike has even better ergos. I agree with the premise; these 2000s liter bikes are somewhat of a sweet spot for street bikes.
Streetfighter 1098! In black matt...what a great drive, pure naked and even more comfortable due to the upright sit position. Also, in the same category the Aprilia Tuono 1000r 2006-2010 must be named. Growling fire spitting big angry things...Man I love these machines.
I bought a 1098 12 months ago. My thought is it is sex on wheels. Termigoshi slip ons pipes make this bike one of the best sounding bikes going around. Everywhere l ride heads turn to look. Love it
In these recent 1098 videos it has been mentioned more than once that the 1098 was the biggest and baddest bike offered in 2008. Don’t forget that the 2008 R1 had 180hp compared to the 1098’s 160 hp 😉
People that have never ridden a 1098/1198 will never understand the significant difference there is from an inline-4 bike. It's an entirely different world and raw numbers mean absolutely nothing. Don't get me wrong, the R1 was a great bike. But it's just not the same as having all that torque down at 2,000 RPM like the Ducati's have.
I just bought a 2005 Ducati ST4S “upgrading” from a 1999 Honda Magna. So when I hear you talking about all the new technology available I keep thinking someday maybe when I’m old. I happen to be one of your infamous 56yr old subscribers. 😃
As a motorcycle mechanic I have to say that you can't ride 180+hp bikes without TC and this brings me to the point I prefer old bikes. Sharp, straight, better connected to biker, cheaper to maintain. Riding older bikes push you to polish your riding skills. 20 years old 150HP feels more than brand new 200HP. gives more sense of speed. On track oldies has no chanses. On road it is a different story. If I have to choose one of theese I will go for Ducati.
Are yall serious had a 2006 GSXR 600 THAT TOP OUT AT 172mph with just a power commander an exhaust system. An these liter bikes be struggling to hit 180
Love the old stuff from 90s and 2000s. Have a 2007 ZX-10R and this thing is fast as hell, even by todays standards. It is a fu**in weapon on the Nürburgring and I love the analogue feeling without any assistance electronics.
Imagine that… those of us in our late 30’s that have been telling you guys in your 20’s how analog bikes are a waaaaaaaay better riding experiences were just plain right. For a decade I’ve heard from the next gen riders how their new aprillia or r1 is 1.3 lbs lighter, and .48 seconds faster around laguna, and 200 horsepower is where life begins… Nope. Give me a throttle cable, no blipper , and no slipper clutch, or “first gear assist” all day every day. I like a bike that actively wants you to die.
@@monkmoto1887 - If it doesn’t feel like it could fall apart at 100, or try to whiskey throttle me on one wheel over the side of a bridge embankment, I don’t want to ride it… 😂 There are great modern things, like fully adjustable ohlins suspenders, fuel injection, and radial brakes, that allow you to do amazing things on a bike, but there’s nothing better than a bike that physically cannot override your input decisions.
👏 slow clapping in progress to all comments. With exception to the radial brakes and fi. I'm good without a subpar everything but I'd still ride the wheels off one even with fork oil running down the brakes if she's all I had. Fyi kids no wheelies on alot of modern bikes with is that about? We didn't buy jetpacks on wheels to be safer. Fck me I'd rather have a seat belt.
Ha ha ha, old truly is gold, yo don't believe me listen to the hilarious sounds Whitney makes at the beginning of her ride, oh the good old days when you actually took the time to learn how to control your bike instead of relying on robots and micro controllers.
Been singing this song for years once I accrued the purchase of my 2014 KTM RC8R. Easily the last great analog superbike, ending in 2015 model year. There's something to be said about prioritizing mechanical tuning rather than electronic tuning, and doubling down on it. Ryosuke Takahashi (Initial D) stated something along these lines (can't remember which season, but it *is* at least season 2), and using that as a jumping-off point for research; he's onto something. Having a bike where every component piece is designed to work together in mechanical harmony is peak confidence-inspiring; main reason why all 4 of my bikes follow this ideology to a T.
In a misguided mission to purchase a boat, I sold my ‘17 1299. The boat never materialized, and to cure my considerable seller’s remorse, I found a pristine copy of this bike (it’s even yellow) for sale by a retired pro flat track rider. It was his fun bike, never raced or even tracked. The first think I learned was that this 1098 is more of a handful and requires more responsible attention (if you hate emergency rooms) than the 1299 in “sport” mode. I’ve come to love this bike due to its simplicity and, yes, the smells!
I bought a 2009 Ducati 1198s next to my 2016 Monster 1200s and boy do I love the 1198s. The whole feel is so much more pure. But as you guys state, so refined in the power delivery, even though is is much quicker then the monster it doesn't scare me as much as the monster does.... This generation of (Ducati) superbikes for me is the sweet spot!!!
The newest bike I currently have is a DRZsm. I have a 90 GSXR 1100, ZX 11, CBR 900rr, ZRX 12, Superhawk, GS1150 rat bike and my most extreme is a RG500 powered NSR Mc21. The ergos on the 500 are brutal. Has aftermarket rear-sets so you have to swing your leg back to get it on the peg. The bars are very low so you definitely feel as if you're going to fall over the front. At 310 LBS it's scary light and it's dangerous. It pulls every bit as hard as the CBR but does it in a completely different way. It will whisper in your ear constantly to let it sing. It doesn't like to run at steady throttle. It wants to rev through the power band. It's an evil little thing. Just like the DRZ is completely different than the other bikes. Each has its own job. Except for the GS1150, better known as The Black Bike. That thing is nuts. Like a rattle trap rat rod with a blown 426 hemi. My point is. The older bikes have more soul. More personality. You take on the personality as so as you get on it. It's so much fun having a variety of bikes to choose from. Old school is where it's at. Besides, old school usually being cheaper. It's easier to have several instead of making payments on 1. There's a short video of the 500 if anyone is interested. Cheers everyone.✌️😎
I've actually never ridden a Ducati... I do however recommend the SV1000 for a similar and CHEAPER comparison. Those bikes are a ton of fun and you can even swap the front end off a GSXR 1000 for a nice upgrade!
My.first bike was 84 900 Ninja. Loved that machine. Then it was more man, skill , and machine. You could feel it all. Now not as much. Traction control, ABS, EFI, etc. Its all good. Motorcycles less than cars or airplanes, we are becoming more system managers than pilots. The advances are nice.
Man a fucking Africa Twin 1000cc in my country Portugal costs 16.000 Euros about 18.000 dolars..... for what?..... tft displays, abs, and million rider help bullshit?.... with that money in early 2000 you would buy a fucking new Ducati, RSV Mille R or a Honda VTR 1000.... beautifull and incredible bikes.... now they are expensive as hell and the maintenence is not better.... sorry for my awesome English....hehehehe
Try a K5/K6 with very few minor mods. Gixer owners always change the pipes. Then ride one and come back next week. Dry weigtht 166kgs with 170 bhp on tap and wicked acceleration. Suzuki best bike - yet unless a turbo busa is your thing
Fun video guys. I love all your reactions to the Duck and how it performs. I have a 2004 E46 M3 and it may not be the fastest car on the road but I love how it drives and the fact that there is no big screen or navigation etc. Same goes for the 1098. It's how it makes you feel every time you ride it. There is something to be said about bikes and cars from the 2000's
@@Damiv yeahhhhhh....but no..... no good suspension...no good brakes.... no good riding position.... fuck a bike with no soul....hehehehehe...just a great engine....
My first bike was a Kawa 900 Z1B at 16 years old and it lasted 15 years I then owned a GPZ 600 until I purchased a ZX10R 2005 model brand new which I still own and love! I'm now 63 years old and of course, made changes to the bike due to discomfort from the handlebar position, etc I love getting out on the track on track days which are organized through bike shops so the average guy can take his or her road bike and do whatever with full use of the track! It's not about racing it's about thrashing and enjoyment and learning! I have lost my lic for a 2 year period and got caught again which was another 2 years! I had to sit for my learner's L plates again and COVT 19 has stopped me from making an appointment for a test I have been off the road for 6 years + the most time ever in my life unable to ride a bike! Its got no ABS no traction control no computer assist etc but its a F... rocket, crazy fast, more power than I can handle and Kawasaki make very strong motors that seem to enjoy a thrashing! Maybe next time a cop tries to pull me over I will disappear like that hellrider guy on youtube! im 63 another 2 years =65 at that age I should be riding a Harley Davison and doing 85 mph max lol I hide under my helmet so who gives a fuck ? not me ! hope to see you on the road !
When I had a 748, I went to the Harley dealer to try out a Buell XB9R. After sitting on it in the showroom, I kept the Ducati. The Buell felt way to small. My helmet was in front of the windshield just sitting normally. Can't imagine the Fireblade feels smaller than that.
Most raw bike I owned was a 4c8 r1 with a decat and a map. No abs no traction control no anti wheelie. I dont regret selling it because I had my time on it but christ that was a scary bike sometimes and I test bikes for a living. My current stable is a mapped and returned 99 blackbird, a wr400 supermoto and a cbf 250. Weird mix I know but they genuinely cover all of the bases very well indeed
I think they stepped in a relm of understanding that brings them closer to many of us middle age and older folks that like Royal Enfield and other brands like it. I know they don't even compare to a Ducati, which I like as a modern classic pick. For many of us it's not about cutting edge speed and technology, but about the simple and direct mechanical feel of riding a older motorcycle or driving an old car. Modern motorcycle are awesome, but I really appreciate some of the raw feeling some of the new ones strive to keep under mounting regulations. Yes...you can buy a classic, but sometimes it's nice to be able to get that feeling from something you've owned from the start.
My riding of so called super bikes was much earlier, late seventies, a Moto Guzzi LeMans 850 and a Ducati 900 SS bevel drive. both ''Italian Stallions'', for their time they seemed fast.... hell! they were fun to ride.
I just keep dreaming of this bike, my grandpa had a 748 and ever since then I fell in love with ducati, no one can change my mind on which is better because ducati has a soul
I had a 1st gen 03 CBR600RR. That's a difficult bike to ride. No safety electronics and the back wheel would lock up with aggressive downshifts. I got really good on that bike. Knee dragging on canyons and wheelies exiting corners. That was my peak until I high sided at the track. My body never recovered 100%. lol
Seen 1098 S's for like $8000 before. What a bargain for such a machine. I test rode the 848 before they officially launched back in 2008 at an event and it was so different from my then new 2007 R6. So much more torque and deceptively fast. The bike leaned over in corners effortlessly and the brakes were amazing. It vibrated so much that when I got back onto my R6 it LITERALLY felt like the motor was off at idle compared to the 848.
I started on a 1987 Yamaha fz600. What a great little bike that was. So soooo much fun. But you had to be a "part of the suspension" back then. You didn't use your legs when hitting some bumps well you just didn't want that to happen.
I couldn’t agree more with the topic of this video Yam. I chose an 06 R1 2 years ago when I got back on 2 wheels after a short layover. Lol. I still plan on getting a modern super bike but I’ll never sell my fire breathing, raw machine. I know it doesn’t have 200hp and no fancy dash and stuff but I added a Power commander and changed a gearing a little and added modern sized tires and holy crap! It still gives you the adrenaline shakes after a pull on the highway! And you describing that brutal front end lift with the bars shaking after changing gears. I get that every time I go wide open throttle. I can’t even go full throttle in gears 1-2 because after 10k RPM it just comes off the ground. Hehe. So fun!! Long live mid 2000 super bikes! Hehe.
I cannot imagine a bike more fun than my 2001 ZRX1200R(except maybe my '06 Honda 919). I'm sure newer bikes have better suspensions but what I have seems fine. Have fun.
bought my 09 1198s with 3,750 miles on it two years ago for $10,000.retailed in the day for twice that amount! what more can you ask for? timeless classic! maintenance is a little spendy but worth every penny to hear that booming v-twin vs. those oh so common i4's! had to re-map for termi slip on's. ahhhh!!! little does she know, listening to the revs @ 65 on the highway, she still has 2 more gears to go!
Ive never been a ducati fan..... but after watching whitney just walk away from spite trying desperately to keep up, even I have to admit that the ducati 1098 is an absolutely beautiful motorcycle. 😍
Got a 06 Fireblade and couldn’t agree more, can’t get a 170bhp raw superbike anymore, it’s a handful if you don’t know how to use it. Nothing makes you feel more alive than nearly highsiding out of every corner 😂
I've done a lot of demo rides on the newer bikes, but I have only owned one motorcycle newer than early 1980's. Most of them are from the 1970's. So I have never ridden a newer bike long term, and I'm perfectly fine with that.
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Mate... Please, this woman's voice is killing us.
Question: Is it better to ride than the V2 which you also really enjoyed??
I Love the ducati...😍 from phil.
How do you check if you won the giveaway if you just bought merch?
Got a kick out of the Donut Media reference 😅👌🏼 Noice!
On the subjects of bikes, I've ridden both modern and older sports bikes (whilst working in a bike dealership mechanics), and I completely agree that old school liters have way more soul. I currently have both a 1994 ZZR1100 (ZX-11) and an 08 Bandit 1250S, and previously owned a 1996 CBR900RR because of this preference.
Less technological motorcycles mean greater rider input and more immersive, fulfilling experience as a rider 💯✊ Awesome vid Yammie Noob team!! 🍻
Most difficult dangerous bikes I ever rode were the late 80s-early 90's GSXR1100s. It's a miracle after owning one as a kid not even old enough to buy a beer & being a green rider that I lived through having it.
Oh my god u just reminded me of my first street bike which was a1992 gsxr 1100 and that was a crazy pig a mirracle I’m alive + I crashed on that bike a lot 😂😂 learned the hard way
@@muhammadmoussalli376 Weak brakes, sketchy AF suspension, now add a big motor and a 19 year old moron it's a transplant surgeons wet dream.
Man the ZZR 1100 with a 5 speed gearbox.... insane bikes.... for hard man...not for these new loolypops....hehehhehehe...... Breaked my femur in 9 parts....3 months in the hospital and 17 of fisio after crashing a 1996 CBR600 I bought the 900 Fireblade....hehehehe...... now have a Mille 2003
@@carlosmacedo1700 we have some similarities my first bike was a 96 CBR f3 which I crashed once in the learning process and my brother had a 2001 Millie the yellow one I rode it more than he did so I'm claiming it. Currently on a Ducati
@@silverback3541 Italian bikes are awesome... the mid 2000 with those V2 savage raw engines.... I love my Mille. the breaks suspension and frame are perfect...specially after you tune it all for your riding style... Good rides and stay always safe...regards from Portugal
Finally, unpopular opinion not unpopular anymore. Bikes, much like cars, peaked at 2000's.
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Except for styling 🤢
You know some still think the best dirt bike ever made was a 2003 kx250
Cars styling sucked in the 2000s, bikes not so much
Cars peaked in the 1990’s. The new cars soon coming out now are better looking then the 2000’s
My son in law had a Ducati 1098 in red a few years back. Beautiful bike but lots of maintenance to keep it in proper and safe tune. My son in law put in the time to keep in it in shape for fun rides. It is not just a 5 minute precheck, there is always something to adjust. A young guy bought it from him because it was a rocket but wanted to return it when he realized the maintenance monster he had purchased. NO RETURNS, that's life.
Yeh not a cheap bike to run. Desmo is like every 15k miles and 8- 1k gbp.. belts every 5k miles or 2 years at a cost of 300 gbp.. but they are cool
If you talk about the Ducati and 1000cc bikes and what's good today. Hands down a tuned Ducati 2009 1198 is stock 97 foot pounds of torque .
With a system exhaust ECU and tuning triple
What's better today for that kind on used price ?
Wait a minute !
Bikes of a good since 2006.
Ducati said that had with tuned motors 200 hP far before all other bikes but the tuned KTM .
The tuned KTM IS 220hp
The Ducati 200hp
But the torque is far more than any other bike. The cc are more.
As an experienced rider I think mid-late 00s for supersports to early 10s for nakeds was the peak of the riders bikes. Riders bike as in a drivers car. Now they’re undoubtedly faster around a track and more accessible at the same time sure, but that doesn’t make them as fun or satisfying to crush the twisties or the track on. The analog throttle and seamless unobstructed braking power and heavy clutch cables will always feel better to me than the electronic throttle, cornering abs and super light clutch’s. It just doesn’t smack right
That's cuz we're getting older !!😂🤗🏁
I have a question
Right now, as my first bike I'm riding a 1997 bandit 600n, and I really like it so for my next bike in 2 years I'm hesitating between an older bandit 1200 or a newer bandit 1250
Which one do you think I should get? The main differences is one has more electronic components while the other has not I think haha
My 26 year old 916 still amazes me every time I take it out. It's a primal experience, nothing else quite like it.
Zx10r 2004 and gsxr K5 1000. Pure analog monsters. Have both. Pure madness!
K5 not so much, K1/2 is even more analog, loved owning one, but I'm too big to ride one for years, maybe someday, when I have money for two bikes
I have a 2003 1000k3 its just engine throttle and brakes 😄.
I personally believe motorcycles peaked in the late 1990's/early 2000's as you seem to be forgetting the Honda Super Blackbird and the Hayabusa. Both pretty fast and yet relatively comfortable.
Agreed Tim. Got a '99 for the EFI and it has been way more fun without the rider aids
@@jerryglennie5375 I completely agree. I've never had a bike with any rider aids and I guess that's why I see those as unnecessary add-ons that I'd just as soon not pay extra for.
My current bike's old ('88 Suzuki Katana 1100) and although I've had to brake pretty hard at times, ... even with the wife on the back, I've never once thought "gee I wish I had ABS".
Ride safe brother and have a great day.
GSXR1000 K5. All that needed to be said.
Completely agree with this
06 for the gsxr and 2008 for the cbr still unmatched 0 order aids with modern suspension and any braking power/feel you want is up to you and affordable. Weight and power get the nod as well. The bussa is a pig there awesome legends like cafe racers but belong in photo albums and short rides to have fun with classics at events etc.
44k to go!!!!!! Let’s go turbo busa!!!!
It’s starting to feel like a let-down when I watch a new video and the subs haven’t cracked 1m yet. Anticipation is becoming frustration.
I have to 1098's little brother the 848 and absolutely love it. No ABS, no TC, but still some good features and a nice dash. Great ride and a lot of fun. Just about perfect sport bike for the street if you ask me
The graphic is actualy so awesome because it's true. I've sold '09 R1 because it was too much for me on the street and bought '03 954RR in mint condition (lucky bastard) and I've never been happier. I can only imagine how powerful modern bikes are, even if I had finances to buy one of those (RR-R, M1000RR, V4, etc...), I'd still have and "oldie" in my garage. Cheers Yammie and the team, awesome video!
The 954's are great fun for the streets and twisties.
yooooo love that 1098! that is defiantly a 2000's color to match
Defiancely ✔️
I personally like the older bikes without the technology of ABS or traction control that will let you get yourself into trouble if you are stupid enough to push it that far... 😁😁 Just like I prefer the old muscle cars from the 60s and early 70s that had way too much horsepower for the factory tires and suspension so it took a real driver to control one...
I enjoy a vehicle that not everyone can get in or on and drive. 😱
Totally agree. Also terribly overrated are fuel injection, tubeless tires, electric starter, electronic ignition, disk brakes, throttle-by-wire, liquid cooling, and even four-stroke engines.
Bikes like the 1969 Kawasaki H1 500 are far more visceral with drum brakes, tubed tires, points ignition, carburetors, kick starter, two-stroke triple, and everything else that made this the original widowmaker.
I had one. I have no idea why everyone bought the new technologies as they emerged. Even I succumbed; I ride a 2020 BMW S1000RR that is different from the old H1 in every respect except for having two wheels.
The only welcome addition for me was a slipper clutch. If you ever ride aggressive in canyons. The rear tire locks up on downshifts for a fraction of a second. You have to finesse with your shifting.
Amen doctor
I have a Ducati 996 with 116 hp and it is way more fun to ride than a Panigale in my opinion. Even more fun when I pass people at the track.
Precisely why GSXR has my heart. ZERO RIDER AID. Separates the men from the boys.
I laugh when people start talking about traction control and abs… I ride an 06 cbr1000rr with no rider aids whatsoever.
05 R1 here, I had this conversation with my buddies earlier today funny enough, his 10r has all the bells and whistles and I'm like "I can track two trips"
@@saltnsunshine9127 you know the deal….
I still have my 05 R1 as well. Still holds up in 2024.@saltnsunshine9127
I got the 2005 r1 in red with exhaust under the seats. It was a real pleasure, no traction control, no abs, just pure feeling and very fun. I don’t like all the electronics in the new bike those days.
She’s so scared to twist that throttle 😂🤦🏻♂️
I have 3 ducatis.
All of them are old bikes.
They are SS900ie, ST3S, and 1098S.
I like the triangular iron frame because it's soft.
Injection is perfect for regular use.
Furthermore, I would be excited if it had the Ducati emblem on it.
I maintain it myself, but every time I maintain it, some parts are replaced with external products.
This is to increase their reliability.
I will be riding these bikes as long as I have parts.
I hope that junk cars in good condition will remain on the market for a long time.
I might not be interested in a new bike.
Turn around the mountain pass with some fun.
Take it easy and go to a cafe a little far away.
I'm going on a motorcycle trip with my wife.
I can enjoy all of them on my bike.
I love Ducati.
I feel good watching this video.
I wish you all the best in your endeavors.
Yammie has a very valid point. However, is it a coincidence that this video instantly went to the Ducati he has been extremely excited to get it 😆
My liter bike had character...
1961 HD Ironhead stroked to 61', welded on hardtail and springer.
Blued all of the steel, leather bib and walnut veneer for a dash.
Walnut, Blue Steel and Gun Leather.
As much as it had character, it built character. Riding it was like riding a jackhammer in heat.
Cheers!
this guy chops
Can we get "Grundle Panini" put on a shirt? 😂
Aww yes. I daily ride a 2004 Aprilia Tuono 1000R and I love it.
Man I ride a 2003 RSV Mille and I love everything about it..... well.... 98% of it......heheheheheh
Watching Zack and Arie crush a brand new Ducati with a clapped out K5 GSXR absolutely shattered any preconceived notions about what makes a bike fast.
FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS THE OLD BIKE SMELL! Nothing is better than the smell of an old bike
I've been debating this point in my head for a while now. New bikes come with a warranty, guaranteed never abused, have ABS, and some other fringe safety features but they also have electronic throttle valves and lean fueling which I think could hurt their reliability in the long run. The old bikes are bulkier and risk a history of abuse but a lot more pure and raw and you get what you ask for unlike the new bikes which filter everything through a computer. I still haven't decided which is better for me. I think a 3 year warranty would be really nice.
The warranty leaves you after 3 years, the character of the old bike will be with you forever, something you won't get bored of or make you feel outdated as newer bikes come by every year with newer technology and faster than before.
I faced the same scenario, 04/05 Honda CBR1000RR vs 16 Yamaha R1M both second hand. Decided on the R1M and never looked back. Simple things like a slipper clutch, that the CBR didn’t come stock with, modern suspension, better wheels etc.
@@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 I'm at a similar spot. O6-07 CBR 1000 vs new ZH1 or used 1299S or used cbr1000rrsp. Different prices but I still can't decide
@@calebsunder yeah the only issue is that used Ducatis aren't reliable and there aren't many used bikes that are supercharged. Lot of factors to weigh but I really like the look of the mid 2000s bikes. Kind of the golden era for me.
@@ChrisG1392 if you can get a well maintained 848, reliability won't be a huge issue. Of course it'll cost more than a Japanese bike in terms of maintenance, but apart from the desmo service at every 7500 miles, most other things are pretty standard. Of course it's got a riding experience like no other Japanese bike as well.
My first bike is a 1985 Honda CB700SC and I still love it. Older bikes just have that raw charm to them and I genuinely believe they’re better to start on since you can learn to wrench on them yourself and teach you how to be a good rider without a computer saving your behind.
How are you guys making me want a Ducati? I DON'T WANT A DUCATI! (I do.)
You will until it needs to eat $$$$ every 1500 miles.
@@stubbingtonmarigold3032always pros and cons
Every reason you guys touched on is why I love my 1098s. Two issues are the heat you spoke of and the mirrors are useless. Only bike that got close to heat is my TL1000R, my RC51 isn't as hot as the other two. My goal when I got the 1098 was to get as much as I could that didn't have electronics on helping. With that said when you turn the electronics off on the Honda like Geoff May had to to race it because he didn't like the electronics it is still rideable if you have that top 2% skills. If not, never ever turn them off!.
I have a 2003 Aprilia RSV Mille.... Man, the feeling compared to the new ones I had the chance to ride is like nothing you can ride this days..... forget about those new bikes.... buy a 2005 GSX-R, a Ducati or a Mille..... spend some money on good tyres, suspension and brakes (only on the GSX-R cause the Mille and Ducatis have Brembos and great suspension) and have fun....
Done!
5+ years and 27,000+ miles
Currently Supercorsa's and a few months with Dyno tuned flashed and remapped 😍
Only 125hp at the wheel
But my 750 keeps me on my toes😁
@@silversoozookee2839 More than enough my friend. Good rides and stay safe
Wifey loves the under seat exhaust... Keeps her butt warm in fall.
It's a free contraceptive for the guys too, if you like cooked gonads.
As a proud owner of a gen 2 zx10r, i love how raw it is. im not sure i could get along with abs and traction control these new bikes come with.
Gen 2 is a pussy cat
Couple of reasons I keep my old 2001 R1 in the stable. First I'm afraid to sell it to someone who has grown up with traction control and abs etc. They might end up in a jam because the bike will give what you ask for without holding back. Secondly the throttle response and braking and just every input you make being so exactly what you expect, it is lovely.
Valid points. I went from an MT09 to an MT10, both of which have the tech, to a cbr1000rr, which has nothing. I was a bit scared but so fa I'm managing. I'm having way more fun in the Twisties. I've had it for a week and a half and already put 1k on it.
Just picked myself up a 2007 CBR 1000. So fun to ride, love the early 2000's
Agree 100%. I had a Suzuki SV1000S in the mid 2000s. No rider aids, no abs, not even a fuel gauge 😆. What a great bike though, total visceral hooligan machine and totally reliable, I miss it!
I ride a VTR1000F which is so much fun. It makes me sad that the world has fallen out of love with V -twin sport bikes. For the road, nothing beats them.
I love a bike with crazy top end and no safety nothing. Just you, the bike and lots of skill.
"Grundle Panini."
So that's a mental image I didn't expect to ever have.
I just like the transition in you YN from ducati-biscotti to "that thing is awesome dude!". Had 848evo '09 for few years, loved it, it was a playful thing to ride, so I can imagine that this displacement makes it even better. Thumbs up!
I've never ridden a modern litre bike to compare but it's like I have no desire too! The pure joy of riding my CBR 954rr FireBlade is what does it for me!👍
Electronics vs experience? I'll take experience every day of the week.
Manny years ago I once pulled away from the lights & did a huge stoppie in front of a police car that pulled out of the side st to chase a red light runner after I had started to take off. No ABS, no traction control or nanny electronics of any kind. I still remember the shocked look on the police woman's face as she saw me coming towards her, and the huge grin that I had on my face looking down on her with my back wheel up in the air. It's one of many riding moments that I'll never forget, but would never have happened with a modern electronically assisted bike.
You cud do a stoppie with a BMW M1000RR… Have seen it done many times. Max Wrist has it almost as a trademark move. So that is a thing you can do on a new bike.
sorry but the 1098 was barely a footnote compared to the R1, ZX10s, and GSXRs of that era. It was powerful.......for a Ducati.
Completely agree. Given the long development time of engines, when they put out this bike, they may have already started development of their V4 engine, as they knew the L twin was nearing the end of its life.
@@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 they definitely did. The research was the Ducati Desmocedisi (hope I spelled it right)
@@TopDonBarrow yes of course. Spot on madman.
I guess that's why they recently released a new L twin and why Ducati twins have been kicking ass in WSB for decades
I am down with these bikes. My concern is at the exit of a corner just after the Apex. That is the feel that must be acquired through experience.
My dad used to have a Suzuki TL1000S with aftermarket cans and it sounded like thunder going down the road. I recently found out that it was nick named the widowmaker because a journalist died while testing it. It had a rotary damper on the rear that could overheat on bumpy roads.
Yeah I had one of those too.. certainly a bit hairy!
Drive by cable, no electronic nannys and 160 hp twin? That is sublime. The Ducati Streetfighter version of that superbike has even better ergos.
I agree with the premise; these 2000s liter bikes are somewhat of a sweet spot for street bikes.
Streetfighter 1098! In black matt...what a great drive, pure naked and even more comfortable due to the upright sit position.
Also, in the same category the Aprilia Tuono 1000r 2006-2010 must be named. Growling fire spitting big angry things...Man I love these machines.
I bought a 1098 12 months ago. My thought is it is sex on wheels. Termigoshi slip ons pipes make this bike one of the best sounding bikes going around. Everywhere l ride heads turn to look. Love it
In these recent 1098 videos it has been mentioned more than once that the 1098 was the biggest and baddest bike offered in 2008.
Don’t forget that the 2008 R1 had 180hp compared to the 1098’s 160 hp 😉
People that have never ridden a 1098/1198 will never understand the significant difference there is from an inline-4 bike. It's an entirely different world and raw numbers mean absolutely nothing. Don't get me wrong, the R1 was a great bike. But it's just not the same as having all that torque down at 2,000 RPM like the Ducati's have.
Yes Yamm, I’m convinced! And in the beginning Whitney’s reaction sounds😂 absolutely loved it!
I just bought a 2005 Ducati ST4S “upgrading” from a 1999 Honda Magna. So when I hear you talking about all the new technology available I keep thinking someday maybe when I’m old. I happen to be one of your infamous 56yr old subscribers. 😃
I finally got me a motorcycle and after watching so many of your videos it was easy to get the hang of it. Thanks yam. 😎Ride safe brothers
As a motorcycle mechanic I have to say that you can't ride 180+hp bikes without TC and this brings me to the point I prefer old bikes. Sharp, straight, better connected to biker, cheaper to maintain. Riding older bikes push you to polish your riding skills. 20 years old 150HP feels more than brand new 200HP. gives more sense of speed. On track oldies has no chanses. On road it is a different story. If I have to choose one of theese I will go for Ducati.
"The golden age" minus muffler placement on some bikes. LOL
Are yall serious had a 2006 GSXR 600 THAT TOP OUT AT 172mph with just a power commander an exhaust system. An these liter bikes be struggling to hit 180
Up to this day I wasn't aware, that year 2008 was before 1992 and that after current year ends, we get to live through 2000's again.
What?
@@timetravelingsexrobot8804 the timeline they showed had 2008 before 1992
These are the reasons I bought a 2007 speed triple. No electronic aids not even abs. It’s a blast
Just sold my Streetfighter V4 and am looking at an 899 and even an older 749R. Thanks for this video.
Love the old stuff from 90s and 2000s.
Have a 2007 ZX-10R and this thing is fast as hell, even by todays standards. It is a fu**in weapon on the Nürburgring and I love the analogue feeling without any assistance electronics.
Imagine that… those of us in our late 30’s that have been telling you guys in your 20’s how analog bikes are a waaaaaaaay better riding experiences were just plain right. For a decade I’ve heard from the next gen riders how their new aprillia or r1 is 1.3 lbs lighter, and .48 seconds faster around laguna, and 200 horsepower is where life begins…
Nope. Give me a throttle cable, no blipper , and no slipper clutch, or “first gear assist” all day every day. I like a bike that actively wants you to die.
Absolutely right. What’s the point of riding if the bikes going to ride itself
@@monkmoto1887 - If it doesn’t feel like it could fall apart at 100, or try to whiskey throttle me on one wheel over the side of a bridge embankment, I don’t want to ride it… 😂
There are great modern things, like fully adjustable ohlins suspenders, fuel injection, and radial brakes, that allow you to do amazing things on a bike, but there’s nothing better than a bike that physically cannot override your input decisions.
Totally agree with you. You actually needed more brains to ride older motorcycles, its more analog. Nothing helping you ride the bike.
Amen
👏 slow clapping in progress to all comments.
With exception to the radial brakes and fi. I'm good without a subpar everything but I'd still ride the wheels off one even with fork oil running down the brakes if she's all I had. Fyi kids no wheelies on alot of modern bikes with is that about? We didn't buy jetpacks on wheels to be safer. Fck me I'd rather have a seat belt.
My 97 ZX7R kept up with a 14’ CBR 100RR last night. At those speeds
= the rider skill etc
rider skills .... only explanation..... hehehehehe..... for sure not the bike.
@@carlosmacedo1700 on paper my ZX7R shouldn’t be able to keep up with CBR1000RR. But at 135-140mph . It’s all about how fast you’re willing to go!
Thank you for not editing those blooper moments, it’s gold.
Ha ha ha, old truly is gold, yo don't believe me listen to the hilarious sounds Whitney makes at the beginning of her ride, oh the good old days when you actually took the time to learn how to control your bike instead of relying on robots and micro controllers.
Who is she? Does she have her own channel?
@@jaytownjunkyardfiles1999 she's the camera woman and does vlogging every now and then on the channel.
@@ninjaguysith She is hilarious with her comments and laughter when riding, need more of her.
Been singing this song for years once I accrued the purchase of my 2014 KTM RC8R. Easily the last great analog superbike, ending in 2015 model year. There's something to be said about prioritizing mechanical tuning rather than electronic tuning, and doubling down on it.
Ryosuke Takahashi (Initial D) stated something along these lines (can't remember which season, but it *is* at least season 2), and using that as a jumping-off point for research; he's onto something.
Having a bike where every component piece is designed to work together in mechanical harmony is peak confidence-inspiring; main reason why all 4 of my bikes follow this ideology to a T.
honestly one of my favorite things about my 87 sportster is how raw and rough it is. its slow but fun
In a misguided mission to purchase a boat, I sold my ‘17 1299. The boat never materialized, and to cure my considerable seller’s remorse, I found a pristine copy of this bike (it’s even yellow) for sale by a retired pro flat track rider. It was his fun bike, never raced or even tracked. The first think I learned was that this 1098 is more of a handful and requires more responsible attention (if you hate emergency rooms) than the 1299 in “sport” mode. I’ve come to love this bike due to its simplicity and, yes, the smells!
I bought a 2009 Ducati 1198s next to my 2016 Monster 1200s and boy do I love the 1198s. The whole feel is so much more pure. But as you guys state, so refined in the power delivery, even though is is much quicker then the monster it doesn't scare me as much as the monster does.... This generation of (Ducati) superbikes for me is the sweet spot!!!
Midnight Club: LA did it for me with 1098r back in the day lol
Thought I was the only one..
The fact that the only other bikes in that game were the 999R and ZX14R works in its favour looool Edit: ah crap I forgot about the Monster
@@CheapskateMotorsports Lmaooo true forgot about all those bikes, haven't touched the game in YEARS!. Also nice Speed Four :)
@@Instinct333 Thanks😅
The newest bike I currently have is a DRZsm.
I have a 90 GSXR 1100, ZX 11, CBR 900rr, ZRX 12, Superhawk, GS1150 rat bike and my most extreme is a RG500 powered NSR Mc21.
The ergos on the 500 are brutal. Has aftermarket rear-sets so you have to swing your leg back to get it on the peg. The bars are very low so you definitely feel as if you're going to fall over the front.
At 310 LBS it's scary light and it's dangerous. It pulls every bit as hard as the CBR but does it in a completely different way.
It will whisper in your ear constantly to let it sing.
It doesn't like to run at steady throttle. It wants to rev through the power band.
It's an evil little thing.
Just like the DRZ is completely different than the other bikes. Each has its own job.
Except for the GS1150, better known as The Black Bike. That thing is nuts. Like a rattle trap rat rod with a blown 426 hemi.
My point is. The older bikes have more soul. More personality.
You take on the personality as so as you get on it.
It's so much fun having a variety of bikes to choose from.
Old school is where it's at.
Besides, old school usually being cheaper. It's easier to have several instead of making payments on 1.
There's a short video of the 500 if anyone is interested.
Cheers everyone.✌️😎
I've actually never ridden a Ducati... I do however recommend the SV1000 for a similar and CHEAPER comparison. Those bikes are a ton of fun and you can even swap the front end off a GSXR 1000 for a nice upgrade!
Just bought a 03 sv1k naked all black a few months ago , Fast AF and Fun AF. i was a little scared to buy a 1000 but Im so glad i did
That’s a great application of the supply and demand curve. Way to show us your Econ degree Yammie.
I love ripping on my 04 fireblade! No TC, no ABS, no slipper clutch. Can’t wait for Barber Motorsports park later this month!
My.first bike was 84 900 Ninja. Loved that machine. Then it was more man, skill , and machine. You could feel it all. Now not as much. Traction control, ABS, EFI, etc. Its all good. Motorcycles less than cars or airplanes, we are becoming more system managers than pilots. The advances are nice.
Went from a brand new street triple rs to a K5 GSXR1000 and haven’t looked back. Both are good bikes though in their own way.
The problem with all this new technology is when it starts to go wrong you spend forever and a day trying to fix it and the cost is high
Man a fucking Africa Twin 1000cc in my country Portugal costs 16.000 Euros about 18.000 dolars..... for what?..... tft displays, abs, and million rider help bullshit?.... with that money in early 2000 you would buy a fucking new Ducati, RSV Mille R or a Honda VTR 1000.... beautifull and incredible bikes.... now they are expensive as hell and the maintenence is not better.... sorry for my awesome English....hehehehe
@Angry Soybean YEAH....
Try a K5/K6 with very few minor mods. Gixer owners always change the pipes. Then ride one and come back next week. Dry weigtht 166kgs with 170 bhp on tap and wicked acceleration. Suzuki best bike - yet unless a turbo busa is your thing
Fun video guys. I love all your reactions to the Duck and how it performs. I have a 2004 E46 M3 and it may not be the fastest car on the road but I love how it drives and the fact that there is no big screen or navigation etc. Same goes for the 1098. It's how it makes you feel every time you ride it. There is something to be said about bikes and cars from the 2000's
Yeah man I like totally agree with you on this one! I also drive a 2004 E46 320d M Sport, Sapphire Black and to this day she still turns heads.
Man, I love the enthusiasm for the 1098……..because I have one……2007! Awesome machine!
This is why the 2020 liter bike I bought still has a cable throttle and an engine designed in 2005. :p
Which one is it?
@@trashs2k Suzuki Katana
@@Damiv Is that even considerd a liter bike? Doesn't make liter sport bike power
@@M16xDr0pSh0tz 150 hp and 85 torque isn't liter bike power?
@@Damiv yeahhhhhh....but no..... no good suspension...no good brakes.... no good riding position.... fuck a bike with no soul....hehehehehe...just a great engine....
My first bike was a Kawa 900 Z1B at 16 years old and it lasted 15 years I then owned a GPZ 600 until I purchased a ZX10R 2005 model brand new which I still own and love! I'm now 63 years old and of course, made changes to the bike due to discomfort from the handlebar position, etc I love getting out on the track on track days which are organized through bike shops so the average guy can take his or her road bike and do whatever with full use of the track! It's not about racing it's about thrashing and enjoyment and learning! I have lost my lic for a 2 year period and got caught again which was another 2 years! I had to sit for my learner's L plates again and COVT 19 has stopped me from making an appointment for a test I have been off the road for 6 years + the most time ever in my life unable to ride a bike! Its got no ABS no traction control no computer assist etc but its a F... rocket, crazy fast, more power than I can handle and Kawasaki make very strong motors that seem to enjoy a thrashing! Maybe next time a cop tries to pull me over I will disappear like that hellrider guy on youtube! im 63 another 2 years =65 at that age I should be riding a Harley Davison and doing 85 mph max lol I hide under my helmet so who gives a fuck ? not me ! hope to see you on the road !
I’ve owned one - and was waiting patiently for you to let it loose, and you left me wanting.
Please let her breathe. She deserves it.
When I had a 748, I went to the Harley dealer to try out a Buell XB9R. After sitting on it in the showroom, I kept the Ducati. The Buell felt way to small. My helmet was in front of the windshield just sitting normally. Can't imagine the Fireblade feels smaller than that.
This is why I love my carbureted 2001 Suzuki sv650. No where near as fast but all u have is a throttle and brakes
Part of the reason I enjoy my 04 Daytona 955i so much.
I've ridden a 2006 R1 since 06, test rode a V4s, was not overly impressed.
Most raw bike I owned was a 4c8 r1 with a decat and a map. No abs no traction control no anti wheelie. I dont regret selling it because I had my time on it but christ that was a scary bike sometimes and I test bikes for a living. My current stable is a mapped and returned 99 blackbird, a wr400 supermoto and a cbf 250. Weird mix I know but they genuinely cover all of the bases very well indeed
I think they stepped in a relm of understanding that brings them closer to many of us middle age and older folks that like Royal Enfield and other brands like it. I know they don't even compare to a Ducati, which I like as a modern classic pick. For many of us it's not about cutting edge speed and technology, but about the simple and direct mechanical feel of riding a older motorcycle or driving an old car. Modern motorcycle are awesome, but I really appreciate some of the raw feeling some of the new ones strive to keep under mounting regulations. Yes...you can buy a classic, but sometimes it's nice to be able to get that feeling from something you've owned from the start.
My riding of so called super bikes was much earlier, late seventies, a Moto Guzzi LeMans 850 and a Ducati 900 SS bevel drive. both ''Italian Stallions'', for their time they seemed fast.... hell! they were fun to ride.
I just keep dreaming of this bike, my grandpa had a 748 and ever since then I fell in love with ducati, no one can change my mind on which is better because ducati has a soul
Exactly what I miss in my old 1125CR - 2009 - 2009 AMA Championship winner 1125R - with spec.s very similar to that Duc.
I had a 1st gen 03 CBR600RR. That's a difficult bike to ride. No safety electronics and the back wheel would lock up with aggressive downshifts. I got really good on that bike. Knee dragging on canyons and wheelies exiting corners. That was my peak until I high sided at the track. My body never recovered 100%. lol
Seen 1098 S's for like $8000 before. What a bargain for such a machine. I test rode the 848 before they officially launched back in 2008 at an event and it was so different from my then new 2007 R6. So much more torque and deceptively fast. The bike leaned over in corners effortlessly and the brakes were amazing. It vibrated so much that when I got back onto my R6 it LITERALLY felt like the motor was off at idle compared to the 848.
I started on a 1987 Yamaha fz600. What a great little bike that was. So soooo much fun. But you had to be a "part of the suspension" back then. You didn't use your legs when hitting some bumps well you just didn't want that to happen.
CBR 954rr still my favorite. Fight me. The bike does and that's why I like it.
I couldn’t agree more with the topic of this video Yam. I chose an 06 R1 2 years ago when I got back on 2 wheels after a short layover. Lol. I still plan on getting a modern super bike but I’ll never sell my fire breathing, raw machine. I know it doesn’t have 200hp and no fancy dash and stuff but I added a Power commander and changed a gearing a little and added modern sized tires and holy crap! It still gives you the adrenaline shakes after a pull on the highway! And you describing that brutal front end lift with the bars shaking after changing gears. I get that every time I go wide open throttle. I can’t even go full throttle in gears 1-2 because after 10k RPM it just comes off the ground. Hehe. So fun!! Long live mid 2000 super bikes! Hehe.
I cannot imagine a bike more fun than my 2001 ZRX1200R(except maybe my '06 Honda 919). I'm sure newer bikes have better suspensions but what I have seems fine. Have fun.
bought my 09 1198s with 3,750 miles on it two years ago for $10,000.retailed in the day for twice that amount! what more can you ask for? timeless classic! maintenance is a little spendy but worth every penny to hear that booming v-twin vs. those oh so common i4's! had to re-map for termi slip on's. ahhhh!!! little does she know, listening to the revs @ 65 on the highway, she still has 2 more gears to go!
very happy with my 98 thunderace, great size and still plenty enough horses to have fun especial with no aids.
Absolutely fabulous, old school does it again...
Ive never been a ducati fan..... but after watching whitney just walk away from spite trying desperately to keep up, even I have to admit that the ducati 1098 is an absolutely beautiful motorcycle. 😍
Got a 06 Fireblade and couldn’t agree more, can’t get a 170bhp raw superbike anymore, it’s a handful if you don’t know how to use it. Nothing makes you feel more alive than nearly highsiding out of every corner 😂
I've done a lot of demo rides on the newer bikes, but I have only owned one motorcycle newer than early 1980's. Most of them are from the 1970's. So I have never ridden a newer bike long term, and I'm perfectly fine with that.