After several visits thwarted by bad weather and low cloud, a friend and I had a perfect sunny day at the beginning of September - about 45 years ago. We ventured up Lord's Rake, using Wainright's guide and made it easily. It was fine scrambling up, until when pausing for a rest, we sat down leaning back against the slope and looked out over the scenery, lol. That really emphasised how steep it is. Needless to say we came down a different way. Hats off to those that descend it.
Years ago, my then boyfriend wanted us to do this one. I'm not good with heights, but he didn't understand! I left him! I do love walking, though. Just not keen on falling. Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
Lovely to see this after so many years. I've done Lord's Rake (ascent) twice and was lucky enough to enjoy the view. Now I'm older with mobility problems and seeing this brings back so many happy memories I am truly blessed to have. Thank you.
That's awesome. If I can stir up fond memories, or inspire others to enjoy the outdoors, I'm doing the right thing and will keep sharing my own experiences. Thank you for watching and commenting :)
Well done video thanks Dan. Like LFPC5611, I’ve done Lords Rake twice, once in 1983 with the West wall traverse variation and found it pretty easy. Four years later when I returned, I was appalled how much worse the erosion was and didn’t find it enjoyable. I did Scafell many more times, most enjoyably several times by the long route from Eskdale. Also did Broad Stand both up and down in 2005 but wouldn’t have been able to do it but for the confidence given by being with a much better climber .Again, like LFPC , I couldn’t do it enjoyably now so good to see videos .
Sounds good. I'm hoping for some snow in January too, but not sure what to tackle yet. Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment :)
The lords rake fascinates me! Probably because I’m on the edge of my vertigo at the prospect. Not to mention my age! I certainly wouldn’t come down it! Nice video, and thank you!
@@danpattinson Some are fine. I scree ran down Beinne Eighe in 1988 from the summit of Spidean Coire nan Clach and it was exhilarating (it took just over 20 minutes to descend), but that was slightly less steep and made of even-sized, continuous, loose scree with no obstacles. Lords Rake has too many nasty, pointy, sticky out things and the scree is very uneven with some steep drops.
Liked and sub’d. I descended this rake many years ago, it does not look like it, but you can end up in sections where you need to climb, stretch and traverse some shelves/drops on the left side (descending). At over 6’ and long arms and legs it was not an issue, but some shorter members of the group, found it quite hair raising.
Thanks for liking and subscribing, and for taking the time to watch my video in the first place. There was a little bit not in my video where it was a little more technical and I did need both hands to traverse a small shelf, near the entrance to the West Wall Traverse. I'm on the shorter side and often think a little longer arms would be beneficial!
Brought back memories of happier times when my wife and I climbed up and down Lords Rake, she while seven months pregnant. The weather became awful so we fled to North Wales where the weather was better. Next day we climbed up Tryfan.
@@danpattinson we had two teachers on every school trip we did, Brecon beacons and more in Wales, scarfell and others in the lake District, Ben Nevis and others in Scotland. I was proud to have done all highest in Britain before leaving school...
Brilliant vid and accent of Lords rake never got to do that scramble as ran out of time and failing legs now sadly cannot do them any more age caught up but my mind thinks I can. Lol but so I aso grateful for you to share your adventures hopefully some more breaks my heart not being able to go rock climbing or mountain climbing anymore pleas keep up your great work many thanks
Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment 🙏 I bet you have a few stories from the adventures you did have
Wish I could run up and down the summits as I once did. Make the most of it while you can. I have done Lords Rake a few times and never found it as hard as Wainwright. Thanks for the film. I have affectionate memories of the Lakeland peaks - as enjoyable as any I did in the world including Mont Blanc and Adam's Peak and high level treks in the Himalayas, Alps, Pyrenees, New Zealand as well as Scotland and Wales.
Thank you for watching. I do love the lakes, and also have many fond memories. I've just returned from the Hymalayas, so my next videos will be from that trip. I would love to climb Mony Blanc.
Climbed this as schoolboy in 1972/3. We’d been up to Scafell Pike, then upto Scafell. School weekend away. Memories 😊. Still walking today at 65, once a year 15 mile yompfor the local mountain rescue sponsored walk.
There seems to be a few lucky people who climbed the Scafells as part of a school trip. You must have had some great teachers. I didn't get into fell walking until my mid 20's. Really good that you are still getting out walking, and for such a good cause, well done.
Thanks for watching. Its not a bad climb, just a bit loose in places, and one little traverse around a rock to do at the top of the first section. The views from sections 2 and 3 over Wasdale are worth the climb.
I enjoyed that, thanks. I didnt much like the Lord's Rake, either going up or down. Obviously, there are no significant route-finding difficulties. but the loose rock and steepness just made it tedious, without any compensating views. Still a glorious outing from Seathwaite overall.
Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it. I agree the views from Lords Rake are not great on the lower section, but the upper sections have good views over Wast Water, on a clear day.
Jack's Rake didn't feel exposed, apart from one section of a few yards. It was a flat section, I just fixed my eyes on the far end and walked the few yards with confidence. I found the whole climb was well within my capabilities and it was great fun. All the parts described by AW, were right where they were supposed to be. Can't wait to do Lords Rake now.
One of the easiest Grade ones in the Lakes have done it many times - it is loose if there are parties in front - much more fun in winter. Have reversed it after climbing Jones' Route V Diff/MS depending on the line - the mantle shelf is quite hard - I lived in Giggleswick for 10 years and went to the Lakes most weekends Summer and Winter - wild camping or staying at the Old Dungeon Gill or kipping in Mile End Barn - better Grade 1 is Pinnacle Ridge or the Ridge route on Blencathra
I wish I lived a little closer to the lakes, it sounds like you had some great adventures. I have done Pinnacle Ridge on St Sunday Crag, and Halls Fell Ridge on Blencathra in the past.
Personal opinion: I have done Lord's Rake four times and the last time almost two years ago when I was 60. It looks quite intimidating when you are stood at the bottom. On all occasions I took the right hand route. It's an enclosed scree gully with good hand grips all the way. It is moderately strenuous but a pure joy to do. Steadily make your way up checking foot and hand holds. The tricky bit is at the top where the check stone was. Prolly you'll need to remove your rucksack and take it on the left. You'll have to haul your ass up this bit. Take your time and enjoy the trip, it's not technically difficult. I don't like heights or exposure and you don't really experience this. There is really no where to fall anyway except a slide a few meters down the scree. Make sure your grips and just enjoy it. I would recommend being properly equipped esp with good boots.
Hi Chris. Yeah it is a fun scramble up. I managed to squeeze up the right hand side on the tricky bit. It was tight though. I need to head back and do the west wall traverse.
Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. I have been meaning to do the West wall traverse. Please get back there and do a great vid. That'll be awesome.@@danpattinson
I’ve done this a couple of times in my younger days and it looks different to what I remember. I suppose in the last 30 years there’s been a lot of erosion making it much wider with fewer large rocks. Still looks a good scramble though.
Yeah the fells are certainly busier these days, errosion is an issue in places. When you last did the rake there was probably the chock stone wedged over the top too. This fell in 2015.
Dan -- You make it seem so easy. Perhaps in some of your future videos you could highlight particularly difficult parts of the climb, eg, this is a grade 3 scramble and should not be attempted by newbies, and highlight why these spots are so dangerous. There are many excellent climbers out there who are very good at what they do, and after reaching the summit may say "Oh that was a refreshing climb," and glide over the very dangerous parts which is what us newbies are interested in. A shot showing the perilous drop is also a good warning about how some of these climbs can go wrong. We appreciate all the good advice and excellent videos you produce.
Hi, thanks for watching. You are right that we are all at different levels. That’s why it’s super important to review your route using various sources, especially if you are less experienced. Enjoy the hills and stay safe 😎
@@danpattinson Dan -- I believe that people who are interested in hill/mountain walking will find their own level eventually, but this requires practice and time. Newbies who clearly are not up for it, should consider taking a simpler route as you say. There is always another day to tackle that more difficult climb. Never pretend to be an experienced climber when you are not. Keeping a log book of your climbs is useful too.
@grahamhodge8313 everything is relative, people have different skill levels and experiences. Yes for us this is easy, but for some it is out of their comfort zone.
@@grahamhodge8313 Graham -- When pitting your skills against Mother Nature, it is best to approach with humility as we are only ever in God's hands, irrespective of our perceived skills.
I went up and down lords rake over a year ago. Once I had done the 2nd ascent part and saw how steep the 3rd part looked I thought “fcuk how am I getting up that.” It was only when I got closer it wasn’t as steep as it looked. However coming down that I slid on my backside. Bit nervy but manageble
Hey Dan, easy to watch that one! love the text features you put into the video would love to know how you did that! i will subscribe matey good luck with your channel 👍 🙏⛰️❤️🥾
Cheers Bob, really appreciate the positive feedback. I will check out your channel later too. For editing Im now using Davinci Resolve. It's a steep learning curve but I think it will pay off. It has so many features once you get your head around it.
I’ve helped pace a few anti-clockwise Bob Graham’s so have been down half a dozen times but always via the Western Wall Traverse then second half of Lords Rake. I’m more confident going up than down. A nice video but better not show my wife.
Sounds good Mark. I've yet to go up (or down) the West Wall Traverse. It might be one I look at next summer. Up is delinately easier than down. I think most mountaineers have their incidents coming back off the mountain.
I've climbed all the 8000+ mtr mountains been caught out in whiteouts , avalanches all from the comfort of bed and ytube . Truthfully climbing a single story staircase is my limit vertigo gets me standing on a chair
Looks mostly physical, rather than dangerous. There is not really any exposition so you just have to have the stamina to make it up , but other than that it looks moderate difficulty at most. Still, looks like a fun hike. Cheers.
Yeah it’s not too bad. There’s only one awkward little move, but it is mostly just powering up the scree. I think most average hill walkers can manage it no problem. Thanks for watching 👍
Hi Matt. Enjoy. Only advice I can think of if you are following this route is to keep a check of your route if you end up in the cloud. Most of the route should be ok in the frost too, just go steady.
@danpattinson thank you I had a route planned but then I've seen a couple of other routes now so unsure but anything can happen and change I expect abit of frost and maybe some snow already on top of the mountains at this time of the year how long did you route take all together
Just the type of vid I’ve been looking for, really helpful for knowing what to expect. Planning on doing Lingmell then scafell pike then up lords rake, is it easy to get to via mickledore or would you have to drop down a bit then head back up? Thanks
Hi Liam. Glad you enjoyed the video. You can easily get from Mickledore to Lords Rake. I’m thinking over heading over soon to look at the west wall traverse and I think I’m going to drop in from Mickledore.
Hi John, My route was just under 11 miles from Seathwaite: explore.osmaps.com/route/13827874/scafells-inc-lords-rake?lat=54.475959&lon=-3.232537&zoom=12.3670&style=Leisure&type=2d If you are just wanting to go up Scafell Pike, then at Lingmell Col just head south east up the hill to the summit, and cut out the Lords Rake/Scafell section. Its still a great route, and works well in reverse too. The quickest/shortest route up to Lords Rake is from Wasdale Head, but it is brutally steep. Then from Scafell follow my route to Scafell Pike. Quick/short routes in my experience are not always the easiest or most interesting.
Only from Wasdale. Head straight up to lord’s Rake via lingmell gill and hollow stones. Then follow my route to Scafell Pike. Then follow the track North west towards Lingmell back down to Wasdale. It’s about 7 miles. The climb to lords rake is very steep and loose.
There seems to be a few people not loving the music. Maybe it is a little strong. I'm still fairly new to creating the videos, so it can only get better. I've recently watched a few vids of Crib Goch, it does look good. It's a bit of a trek to Wales for me but it's definately on the to do list.
Hi. Filmed on a canon M50 mirrorless camera with a ride mic on the top. It’s good but a bit bulky to scramble with. I’ve now got a GoPro Hero 11, which is a bit easier, and 4k.
Hi. No not the toughest route. That would be up Broad Stand, but you are well into climbing territory then. Lord’s Rake can be made a little harder if you use the west wall traverse at the top.
Not done scafell yet, only it's slightly bigger neighbor. Got to say I'd probably give Lords Rake a miss if possible, as I don't really like the steeper scrambles or scree. How many wainwright's have you conquered so far? :)
Hi Neil, Scafell is a nice fell. It's much quieter than the Pike, but depending upon which side you approach from, a stepper climb up. I've currently climbed 105 Wainwright's, so nearly half way. I need to get some more of the southern fells done, as I tend to stick to the north, as I drive in from North Yorkshire.
@Dan Pattinson cool, I've done 175, so almost there now, even if it has taken me 12 years haha. I've mostly got the more isolated mountains in the western side to do, as I only learnt to drive a few years ago. Funnily enough the vet first I did was Scafell Pike, I climbed it during a camping weekend at Wasdale Head. I loved the views so much I was hooked :)
@@neilholmes8200 Wow not many left, and really good effort for a none driver. My first was Helvellyn, and like you it was the views that had me hooked. Thats going back about 12 or 13 years too.
@Dan Pattinson thanks, it's been an amazing journey so far, seen some awesome sights and learned to navigate in very little visibility haha My favourite (once it was over!) was getting back to Helvellyn summit towards the end of the day and noticing a thunderstorm coming in early, so I took a longer gentler route down (original plan was to descend Swirral Edge) which lead to me waking through the mountains with lightning flashing all around every few seconds. Both beautiful and disturbing at the same time haha When I got back to the Youth Hostel they told me a story of someone who actually tried to descend Swirral Edge in a similar situation and ended up falling off, somehow surviving the unplanned and rapid decent down the slopes above Brown Cove Tarn and staggering to their feet and stumbling back to the YHA. Somehow they only received a few bruises and a fracture iirc. Still I was glad I took the gentle route back!
Since doing this in the 90's, a large boulder has since fallen into the rake. Never heard anybody else, except climbers, try Taylor Coleridge's route down.
Hi, The tunes are: Honor the Brave by Hampus Naeselius Lilchill by Bonkers Beat Club Both available on Epidemic Sounds: share.epidemicsound.com/ab5rr1 Cheers Dan
@@danpattinson thanks Dan, great piece. Save it for an telleach! I'm disabled these days but packed in a lot of sailing cycling hiking in my younger times. My advice is to pack it in and don't wait.
@@nilepax8168 thanks Nile. I hope you have some good memories. I’m trying, currently in Nepal trekking to Everest base camp. Videos coming in the new year.
I tried going down in January 22.. Sarted slidng. Arrested wth my axe and bent my crampons. It was silly really because it actually looked like a bob sleigh run. Never again. Lost my pork pies to boot which I was gutted about.
I don't mind the gullies like this, but the more exposed stuff still gets me thinking. I'm hoping to get over in the snow next month for something interesting. Not sure what yet.
It is a fair point. The fells are so busy these days, which is great that people are getting outside, but it does like you say have side effects for the environment. I'm not sure charging would work, but some better education might help.
Hi. Currently wearing a trusty pair of Scarpa Rangers. However they have done a good few hundred miles, and after 2 weeks trekking in the Himalayas recently, they are due to be retired. They are going to be a hard boot to beat, but I do fancy something a little lighter. That is the scarpa’s only fault, weighting in at 1.5kg!
After several visits thwarted by bad weather and low cloud, a friend and I had a perfect sunny day at the beginning of September - about 45 years ago. We ventured up Lord's Rake, using Wainright's guide and made it easily. It was fine scrambling up, until when pausing for a rest, we sat down leaning back against the slope and looked out over the scenery, lol. That really emphasised how steep it is. Needless to say we came down a different way. Hats off to those that descend it.
Years ago, my then boyfriend wanted us to do this one. I'm not good with heights, but he didn't understand! I left him! I do love walking, though. Just not keen on falling. Nice video. Thanks for sharing.
The steep slopes are certainly not for everyone. Thanks for watching my video and taking the time to comment.
@@danpattinson Thanks for replying. At least I can enjoy such scrambles vicariously! I look forward to more of your videos.
There is very little exposure on Lord's Rake.
Lovely to see this after so many years. I've done Lord's Rake (ascent) twice and was lucky enough to enjoy the view. Now I'm older with mobility problems and seeing this brings back so many happy memories I am truly blessed to have. Thank you.
That's awesome. If I can stir up fond memories, or inspire others to enjoy the outdoors, I'm doing the right thing and will keep sharing my own experiences. Thank you for watching and commenting :)
Well done video thanks Dan. Like LFPC5611, I’ve done Lords Rake twice, once in 1983 with the West wall traverse variation and found it pretty easy. Four years later when I returned, I was appalled how much worse the erosion was and didn’t find it enjoyable. I did Scafell many more times, most enjoyably several times by the long route from Eskdale. Also did Broad Stand both up and down in 2005 but wouldn’t have been able to do it but for the confidence given by being with a much better climber .Again, like LFPC , I couldn’t do it enjoyably now so good to see videos .
Great video ,Yes I have done that thank-you for the upload, will be up there again January 2023 hoping for frost, snow and sunshine Take care
Sounds good. I'm hoping for some snow in January too, but not sure what to tackle yet.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment :)
The lords rake fascinates me! Probably because I’m on the edge of my vertigo at the prospect. Not to mention my age!
I certainly wouldn’t come down it!
Nice video, and thank you!
I've been up it in dry weather and it was hard but OK. It would be very dangerous in snow and I wouldn't go down it for any money.
@kingcurry6594 I agree, I’m not a big fan of heading down big scree gullies either.
@@danpattinson Some are fine. I scree ran down Beinne Eighe in 1988 from the summit of Spidean Coire nan Clach and it was exhilarating (it took just over 20 minutes to descend), but that was slightly less steep and made of even-sized, continuous, loose scree with no obstacles.
Lords Rake has too many nasty, pointy, sticky out things and the scree is very uneven with some steep drops.
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I descended this rake many years ago, it does not look like it, but you can end up in sections where you need to climb, stretch and traverse some shelves/drops on the left side (descending).
At over 6’ and long arms and legs it was not an issue, but some shorter members of the group, found it quite hair raising.
Thanks for liking and subscribing, and for taking the time to watch my video in the first place.
There was a little bit not in my video where it was a little more technical and I did need both hands to traverse a small shelf, near the entrance to the West Wall Traverse. I'm on the shorter side and often think a little longer arms would be beneficial!
Brought back memories of happier times when my wife and I climbed up and down Lords Rake,
she while seven months pregnant. The weather became awful so we fled to North Wales where the weather was better. Next day we climbed up Tryfan.
Took this route back in June. The views are amazing! Took the tourist route back down because the sun started setting and it was getting dark.
I'd like to get up there in summer. The views from the rake were good, but I was in thick cloud on top of Scafell.
I remember doing that back in my senior school days. Bit better weather though.
You must have had a cool teacher to take you up there. Running around muddy fields was the closest I ever got.
@@danpattinson we had two teachers on every school trip we did, Brecon beacons and more in Wales, scarfell and others in the lake District, Ben Nevis and others in Scotland. I was proud to have done all highest in Britain before leaving school...
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Did it on a nice day without thinking too much about it, take your time, there is no rush.
Brilliant vid and accent of Lords rake never got to do that scramble as ran out of time and failing legs now sadly cannot do them any more age caught up but my mind thinks I can. Lol but so I aso grateful for you to share your adventures hopefully some more breaks my heart not being able to go rock climbing or mountain climbing anymore pleas keep up your great work many thanks
Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you so much for watching and taking the time to leave a comment 🙏
I bet you have a few stories from the adventures you did have
Wish I could run up and down the summits as I once did. Make the most of it while you can. I have done Lords Rake a few times and never found it as hard as Wainwright. Thanks for the film. I have affectionate memories of the Lakeland peaks - as enjoyable as any I did in the world including Mont Blanc and Adam's Peak and high level treks in the Himalayas, Alps, Pyrenees, New Zealand as well as Scotland and Wales.
Thank you for watching. I do love the lakes, and also have many fond memories. I've just returned from the Hymalayas, so my next videos will be from that trip. I would love to climb Mony Blanc.
It’s crazy that you’ve just popped up on my UA-cam!
I come in the shop! What a small world😂
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Climbed this as schoolboy in 1972/3. We’d been up to Scafell Pike, then upto Scafell. School weekend away. Memories 😊. Still walking today at 65, once a year 15 mile yompfor the local mountain rescue sponsored walk.
There seems to be a few lucky people who climbed the Scafells as part of a school trip. You must have had some great teachers. I didn't get into fell walking until my mid 20's.
Really good that you are still getting out walking, and for such a good cause, well done.
🎉Great footage of these mountain landscapes!
Thanks 🙏 I love being up there, especially on a moody day.
I've never been up this route, but the vid gives a good idea of what it might be like
Thanks for watching.
Its not a bad climb, just a bit loose in places, and one little traverse around a rock to do at the top of the first section. The views from sections 2 and 3 over Wasdale are worth the climb.
I enjoyed that, thanks. I didnt much like the Lord's Rake, either going up or down. Obviously, there are no significant route-finding difficulties. but the loose rock and steepness just made it tedious, without any compensating views. Still a glorious outing from Seathwaite overall.
Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it.
I agree the views from Lords Rake are not great on the lower section, but the upper sections have good views over Wast Water, on a clear day.
Looks a good route think I will try that when I do scafell
Yeah it’s a decent route. Interesting and nothing too steep other than lord’s rake and the short climb to it.
Enjoy 👍
Glad you made the helmet comment.
Yes I do try to mention the safety aspects where I can.
Thank you. Not sure of the music. Maybe Vaughn Williams Lark Assending. Never tried Lords Rake but did Parvey Ark once.
Jacks Rake on Pavey Ark is a good one. A bit more technical than Lords Rake.
Did Pavey Ark with no trouble apart from just one big stretch/climb up. Not done Lord's Rake yet, so it should be quite attainable.
@SimonHoward-fb6tr yeah you will be fine on lord’s Rake. Jacks Rake is much steeper and more exposed.
Jack's Rake didn't feel exposed, apart from one section of a few yards. It was a flat section, I just fixed my eyes on the far end and walked the few yards with confidence. I found the whole climb was well within my capabilities and it was great fun. All the parts described by AW, were right where they were supposed to be. Can't wait to do Lords Rake now.
Twas a long time back the last time I did that, it looks bloody awful now, falling apart.
One of the easiest Grade ones in the Lakes have done it many times - it is loose if there are parties in front - much more fun in winter. Have reversed it after climbing Jones' Route V Diff/MS depending on the line - the mantle shelf is quite hard - I lived in Giggleswick for 10 years and went to the Lakes most weekends Summer and Winter - wild camping or staying at the Old Dungeon Gill or kipping in Mile End Barn - better Grade 1 is Pinnacle Ridge or the Ridge route on Blencathra
I wish I lived a little closer to the lakes, it sounds like you had some great adventures. I have done Pinnacle Ridge on St Sunday Crag, and Halls Fell Ridge on Blencathra in the past.
Personal opinion: I have done Lord's Rake four times and the last time almost two years ago when I was 60. It looks quite intimidating when you are stood at the bottom. On all occasions I took the right hand route. It's an enclosed scree gully with good hand grips all the way. It is moderately strenuous but a pure joy to do. Steadily make your way up checking foot and hand holds. The tricky bit is at the top where the check stone was. Prolly you'll need to remove your rucksack and take it on the left. You'll have to haul your ass up this bit. Take your time and enjoy the trip, it's not technically difficult. I don't like heights or exposure and you don't really experience this. There is really no where to fall anyway except a slide a few meters down the scree. Make sure your grips and just enjoy it. I would recommend being properly equipped esp with good boots.
Hi Chris. Yeah it is a fun scramble up. I managed to squeeze up the right hand side on the tricky bit. It was tight though.
I need to head back and do the west wall traverse.
Hi Dan, thanks for your reply. I have been meaning to do the West wall traverse. Please get back there and do a great vid. That'll be awesome.@@danpattinson
When I did this the chockstone was still in situ across the top.
A little while ago then. It fell in 2015 I think.
I’ve done this a couple of times in my younger days and it looks different to what I remember. I suppose in the last 30 years there’s been a lot of erosion making it much wider with fewer large rocks. Still looks a good scramble though.
Yeah the fells are certainly busier these days, errosion is an issue in places.
When you last did the rake there was probably the chock stone wedged over the top too. This fell in 2015.
Was awkward getting past the chockstone when I did it. Guess it's gone now from your video.
Yes the chockstone fell in 2015. I bet it would have been spectacular seeing it fall.
A great video.
Cheers. Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.
I’m hoping to have some more scrambling videos up over the next few months 👍
Dan -- You make it seem so easy. Perhaps in some of your future videos you could highlight particularly difficult parts of the climb, eg, this is a grade 3 scramble and should not be attempted by newbies, and highlight why these spots are so dangerous. There are many excellent climbers out there who are very good at what they do, and after reaching the summit may say "Oh that was a refreshing climb," and glide over the very dangerous parts which is what us newbies are interested in. A shot showing the perilous drop is also a good warning about how some of these climbs can go wrong.
We appreciate all the good advice and excellent videos you produce.
Hi, thanks for watching.
You are right that we are all at different levels. That’s why it’s super important to review your route using various sources, especially if you are less experienced.
Enjoy the hills and stay safe 😎
@@danpattinson Dan -- I believe that people who are interested in hill/mountain walking will find their own level eventually, but this requires practice and time. Newbies who clearly are not up for it, should consider taking a simpler route as you say. There is always another day to tackle that more difficult climb. Never pretend to be an experienced climber when you are not. Keeping a log book of your climbs is useful too.
He makes it look easy because it is easy. Try the Crib Goch route up Snowdon; that is a much more challenging route.
@grahamhodge8313 everything is relative, people have different skill levels and experiences. Yes for us this is easy, but for some it is out of their comfort zone.
@@grahamhodge8313 Graham -- When pitting your skills against Mother Nature, it is best to approach with humility as we are only ever in God's hands, irrespective of our perceived skills.
I thought it was ok, going down. Had to go with the slid
One of the best scrambles ever, coming down it everyone is on their a5s or head over t!t
I think I'm going to have to do a few more downwards scrambles, it sounds like a different type of buzz.
I went up and down lords rake over a year ago.
Once I had done the 2nd ascent part and saw how steep the 3rd part looked I thought “fcuk how am I getting up that.” It was only when I got closer it wasn’t as steep as it looked.
However coming down that I slid on my backside.
Bit nervy but manageble
haha sounds like fun. I think going up is definately less scary than coming down steep slopes.
Hey Dan, easy to watch that one! love the text features you put into the video would love to know how you did that! i will subscribe matey good luck with your channel 👍 🙏⛰️❤️🥾
Cheers Bob, really appreciate the positive feedback. I will check out your channel later too.
For editing Im now using Davinci Resolve. It's a steep learning curve but I think it will pay off. It has so many features once you get your head around it.
@@danpattinson nice nice 👍 👌 keep up the good work pal 👍
I’ve helped pace a few anti-clockwise Bob Graham’s so have been down half a dozen times but always via the Western Wall Traverse then second half of Lords Rake. I’m more confident going up than down. A nice video but better not show my wife.
Sounds good Mark. I've yet to go up (or down) the West Wall Traverse. It might be one I look at next summer. Up is delinately easier than down. I think most mountaineers have their incidents coming back off the mountain.
you make sense with sound on
Sound is always good for video, although there is a trend for people to watch without.
We pronounce it Scawf’l, for future reference.
Noted. My poor North eastern dialect
I've climbed all the 8000+ mtr mountains been caught out in whiteouts , avalanches all from the comfort of bed and ytube . Truthfully climbing a single story staircase is my limit vertigo gets me standing on a chair
Haha, God bless UA-cam. 😂
Looks mostly physical, rather than dangerous. There is not really any exposition so you just have to have the stamina to make it up , but other than that it looks moderate difficulty at most. Still, looks like a fun hike. Cheers.
Yeah it’s not too bad. There’s only one awkward little move, but it is mostly just powering up the scree. I think most average hill walkers can manage it no problem.
Thanks for watching 👍
Going scafell this weekend Saturday weather's looking ok any advice
Hi Matt. Enjoy. Only advice I can think of if you are following this route is to keep a check of your route if you end up in the cloud. Most of the route should be ok in the frost too, just go steady.
@danpattinson thank you I had a route planned but then I've seen a couple of other routes now so unsure but anything can happen and change I expect abit of frost and maybe some snow already on top of the mountains at this time of the year how long did you route take all together
@user-lp2rg4il2t I was out for 7.5 hours including stops and faffing with the camera. 11.3 miles all in, so a fairly decent day out.
I did it in the rain... which was interesting.
Just the type of vid I’ve been looking for, really helpful for knowing what to expect. Planning on doing Lingmell then scafell pike then up lords rake, is it easy to get to via mickledore or would you have to drop down a bit then head back up? Thanks
Hi Liam. Glad you enjoyed the video.
You can easily get from Mickledore to Lords Rake. I’m thinking over heading over soon to look at the west wall traverse and I think I’m going to drop in from Mickledore.
@@danpattinson brilliant, thanks mate. Also enjoyed your Tosson Hill vid, heading up there in a couple weeks the dog 👌🏻
How many miles was this ? What is the quickest way up lords rake to scafell pike ?
Hi John,
My route was just under 11 miles from Seathwaite: explore.osmaps.com/route/13827874/scafells-inc-lords-rake?lat=54.475959&lon=-3.232537&zoom=12.3670&style=Leisure&type=2d
If you are just wanting to go up Scafell Pike, then at Lingmell Col just head south east up the hill to the summit, and cut out the Lords Rake/Scafell section. Its still a great route, and works well in reverse too.
The quickest/shortest route up to Lords Rake is from Wasdale Head, but it is brutally steep. Then from Scafell follow my route to Scafell Pike. Quick/short routes in my experience are not always the easiest or most interesting.
@@danpattinson thankyou we want to do lords rake and scafell pike no more than 10 miles is that possible :)
Only from Wasdale. Head straight up to lord’s Rake via lingmell gill and hollow stones. Then follow my route to Scafell Pike. Then follow the track North west towards Lingmell back down to Wasdale. It’s about 7 miles. The climb to lords rake is very steep and loose.
@@danpattinson thankyou what’s the parking like a wasdale
I’m not sure what parking is like, I’ve never actually been to Wasdale. I arrive from the north east so it’s a long way to there for me.
Super 🤸🤸
No offence Dan, the dramatic music didn't convince me. It wasn't a hard scramble. Look forward to seeing you on Crib Goch
There seems to be a few people not loving the music. Maybe it is a little strong. I'm still fairly new to creating the videos, so it can only get better.
I've recently watched a few vids of Crib Goch, it does look good. It's a bit of a trek to Wales for me but it's definately on the to do list.
Great stuff! What was this filmed on?
Hi. Filmed on a canon M50 mirrorless camera with a ride mic on the top. It’s good but a bit bulky to scramble with. I’ve now got a GoPro Hero 11, which is a bit easier, and 4k.
Hey is this the toughest route up and down?
Hi. No not the toughest route. That would be up Broad Stand, but you are well into climbing territory then. Lord’s Rake can be made a little harder if you use the west wall traverse at the top.
Maybe drop the music , sounds like a James Bond flick
Each to their own with music, some people like it, others don’t. I think it’s better than listening to me huffing and puffing 😂
Not done scafell yet, only it's slightly bigger neighbor. Got to say I'd probably give Lords Rake a miss if possible, as I don't really like the steeper scrambles or scree.
How many wainwright's have you conquered so far? :)
Hi Neil, Scafell is a nice fell. It's much quieter than the Pike, but depending upon which side you approach from, a stepper climb up.
I've currently climbed 105 Wainwright's, so nearly half way. I need to get some more of the southern fells done, as I tend to stick to the north, as I drive in from North Yorkshire.
@Dan Pattinson cool, I've done 175, so almost there now, even if it has taken me 12 years haha. I've mostly got the more isolated mountains in the western side to do, as I only learnt to drive a few years ago.
Funnily enough the vet first I did was Scafell Pike, I climbed it during a camping weekend at Wasdale Head. I loved the views so much I was hooked :)
@@neilholmes8200 Wow not many left, and really good effort for a none driver.
My first was Helvellyn, and like you it was the views that had me hooked. Thats going back about 12 or 13 years too.
@Dan Pattinson thanks, it's been an amazing journey so far, seen some awesome sights and learned to navigate in very little visibility haha
My favourite (once it was over!) was getting back to Helvellyn summit towards the end of the day and noticing a thunderstorm coming in early, so I took a longer gentler route down (original plan was to descend Swirral Edge) which lead to me waking through the mountains with lightning flashing all around every few seconds. Both beautiful and disturbing at the same time haha
When I got back to the Youth Hostel they told me a story of someone who actually tried to descend Swirral Edge in a similar situation and ended up falling off, somehow surviving the unplanned and rapid decent down the slopes above Brown Cove Tarn and staggering to their feet and stumbling back to the YHA. Somehow they only received a few bruises and a fracture iirc.
Still I was glad I took the gentle route back!
Since doing this in the 90's, a large boulder has since fallen into the rake. Never heard anybody else, except climbers, try Taylor Coleridge's route down.
and all done in a Tshirt
Hi what is the music please?
Hi,
The tunes are:
Honor the Brave by Hampus Naeselius
Lilchill by Bonkers Beat Club
Both available on Epidemic Sounds: share.epidemicsound.com/ab5rr1
Cheers
Dan
@@danpattinson thanks Dan, great piece. Save it for an telleach!
I'm disabled these days but packed in a lot of sailing cycling hiking in my younger times. My advice is to pack it in and don't wait.
@@nilepax8168 thanks Nile. I hope you have some good memories. I’m trying, currently in Nepal trekking to Everest base camp. Videos coming in the new year.
I tried going down in January 22.. Sarted slidng. Arrested wth my axe and bent my crampons. It was silly really because it actually looked like a bob sleigh run. Never again. Lost my pork pies to boot which I was gutted about.
Down in winter is a tough one. Some of the gullies really fill up, and are hard enough to get up. I might have a go down it in drier conditions.
Dramatic? Moi? I've done Lord's Rake and it really is not a big deal. This guy could make an adventure video out of a trip to his local supermarket.
I think someone needs to grove up a little 🙄
@@danpattinson Yes, I do need to plant more trees in my yard.
Nice scramble, but the dramatic music is a bit much, it’s not the north face of the Eiger.
Can’t be that tough if you’re hold a camera as well😂
It’s not too bad. It is only a scramble, not a climb. I only had to put the camera away at one point.
Looks like a good place to take a mother-in-law too.
Theres a fair selection of those in the lakes.
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Nicely put together video. Good luck to you and your channel. I've put together a fell running comedy if you would care to check it out. Best wishes.
Thank you for your kind comments. I’ll definitely check out your channel. 👍
After a few years experience you'll find this is actually a piece of piss.
I don't mind the gullies like this, but the more exposed stuff still gets me thinking.
I'm hoping to get over in the snow next month for something interesting. Not sure what yet.
Lake District fells are a barren of biodiversity. Too many sheep snd too many hill walkers. Time to start charging for access to halt species loss.
It is a fair point. The fells are so busy these days, which is great that people are getting outside, but it does like you say have side effects for the environment. I'm not sure charging would work, but some better education might help.
Right, so you can walk up it.... not really a scramble.
It’s a grade 1 listed scramble, so yeah it really is a scramble
It would be a better video without that awful hokey music. Just hiking please.
is that the woke district
Probably the best chance to see the whole of the lakes is from the top of the Pike on a clear day, but even then there are hidden pockets.
What boots are you wearing my man?
Hi. Currently wearing a trusty pair of Scarpa Rangers. However they have done a good few hundred miles, and after 2 weeks trekking in the Himalayas recently, they are due to be retired. They are going to be a hard boot to beat, but I do fancy something a little lighter. That is the scarpa’s only fault, weighting in at 1.5kg!
Music was way ott, sorry. It's not K2.
You can't beat a bit of dramatic music. Some people like it, some don't. I'll be sure to save that piece for when I climb K2.
Stunning location, did you wild camp at all?
I’ve not wild camped for a good few years, but it is on my radar for 2023. Need to revisit some old haunts.