Long Tube Header Install - 370Z/G37 Detailed DIY
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- This video is a detailed DIY on how to install long tube headers on the VQ37 engine in your 370Z or G37. Long tube headers are an excellent way to improve the sound of the exhaust note, decrease the weight of the car, and increase peak horsepower through the concept of exhaust siphoning.
This install is not for the faint of heart, as the bolts holding the header to the engine block are very difficult to access. This is not an install for anyone who hasn't worked on their car before. With the right tools however, and following the detailed steps in this video, this project is more than doable.
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Wow absolutely flawless video. This is what people need when trying to install the headers.
Thank you! I like document things in detail so others can follow.
Agreed
@@thecarizon504 any tips on installing these? I'm about to order long tubes and I'm planning on installing them myself
@@thecarizon504 did you notice a big difference over test pipes?
@@v36vhr no big difference in feel at least from just installing them. Much more noticable difference in weight though. The only way to tell is look at the car performance tuned before amd after.
I had the honor of going at it twice. For anyone installing isr long tube headers, please use your oem gaskets. Don't use the crap gaskets that come with the headers. It will leak very badly.
I just did mine and is throwing a CEL. Did you get that and do you know how to get it removed?
WISH ME LUCK my G37's getting them and the rest of the ISR set this Saturday, just wanted to get a sneak peek, awesome video!
How did it go with your install? I just did my 370z it was a pain but worth it. Now I need a tune to remove CEL
Great video as always, I always use your videos as guides. You definitely are very thorough and I feel slightly more confident tryin this on Saturday.... Also congrats on goin SC!
I also made a detailed video on how to do this installation, but the carizon is the goat for making this
Yuup I made up my mind about installing headers... I’m taking it to a shop and let them deal with the headache
Not a bad move imo.
Amen, I did short tube and 14 hours later and multiple cuts and massive cursing later it was done. but love the results
Have you tune your car to get the CEL removed?
@@etejeda1984 I have never had a CEL with this setup
I thought by installing your long tube headers and deleting the cats would throw a CEL? Maybe I have a bad sensor then of it should not cause a CEL?
@@etejeda1984 long tube headers, yes. That is why I did short with high flow cats from fast intentions
Ok. Yea I was asking for those who did LTH. Thanks though
Informative video. For anyone doing this, you may want to crimp those wires instead of soldering especially given their location that is prone to heat and vibration
I crimped mine and they are very secure when I tug on them.
@@sfasiere6737hey how did it go crimping them ?! For some weird reason my mechanic hard wired and crimped my extension but it doesn’t want to work !!
@@roadtoamilli1680 There are 4 possibilities -
1. There are 2 black wires for each A/F sensor and they are not interchangeable.
2. The sensors may be covered in anti seize.
3. Don't forget to torque all the sensors.
4. A/F and O2 sensors are not interchangeable.
These are everything I avoided for my sensors to work. I drove for more than 5 hours and still don't have a check engine light.
@@sfasiere6737okay appreciate it ! Thank you
Great DIY video. So beneficial! I hope you love your new sound and performance! Sounds awesome!
My friend & I used to live a few doors down from you in that same community. I still have only done K&N drop ins to this day... :\
Great videos!
Which car?
Nvm, I remember the pair of Z's, miss seeing them in the garage!
@@thecarizon504 My friend traded his for an an Alfa Romeo 4C. Quick little sucker. I still drive the black one & my Prelude beater.
@@LudeMasta99 I do like those little 4C's, nice upgrade for sure!
At first I was like dang that looks a lot like where I used to live in Texas. Then I noticed the road signs.. I used to live right near there, small world!
Thanks for the video, really helped me install my headers and high flow cats on my 2014 Q60.
this was the most miserable thing ive done to my car myself but it was so worth it
Currently about to do an install but waiting to get tuned before I do so I don’t mess up my engine
You’re vq isn’t gonna blow just because you added long tubes. I don’t know why people are so scary when modding cars. You’ll be fine with no tune. It won’t perform as good as it could but you won’t die
It shouldn't mess up the engine if you don't run it for a long time without the tune. Also it would be better to do the tune after.
Took the LTH off my car 2 times now, at this point ide rather pay someone to do it for 400 bones lol
Loved the video. Very informative.
Did have my dying when u said "bust these nuts"🤣
That's how I felt while I was doing that project...
I just installed my isr long tubes on my g37. It took me about 10 hours. It was a lot of work but I did it myself
any advice
@@alexcastro5081 hahaha take your time, d o the passengers side first to build your confidence. Soak all the manifolds bolts with pb blaster the day before, you can't use enough of it. Have an assortment of 14mm wrenches , ratcheting wrench, swivel , long flex head rachtes of different lengths , 14mm sockets of different lengths and a stubby rachet. The headers really aren't that bad to do. You'll save a ton of money doing it yourself. Only get longtube headers or z1 motorsports headers. I picked up 15 whp and 6 wtq with long tube headers.
@@v36vhr im thinking about just getting z1 headers but they cost a lot 😂
Did you get a check engine light? If so how did you go about removing it?
@@etejeda1984 I never got a cel with the isr lth because the extended j tube on the o2 sensor bung.
Left to loosen the bolts on the heat shield right? I’m having a issues where all 3 bolts rounded when I was attempting to remove them and the driver side is the same way. No one shows them removing the bolts. I would assume it’s to the left. But this issue leads to rounded bolts. Can’t even put an Extractor socket on it.
It is to the left yep, normal thread pattern.
Great video but those are NOT crescent wrenches. They are open/box end wrenches. Crescent are adjustable.
Probably the best DYI video Header install for the VQ lol. What’s the torque specs for the studs and bolts?
One of the best header intall vids I've seen. anyone know the main diff between long vs short tube headers? just the sound or?
Long tubes allows for siphening, which means more power in the higher RPM range. Shorties are cheaper and allow for customizeability in terms of giving you the option to choose your own down pipes/cats.
@@thecarizon504 thank you for the info 👍
Man !! Sorry about the cross threaded bolt and know that would for sure happen to me...Great video..really appreciate your patience and am considering a 370Z ..would love to have similar upgrades as you..
I wanna drop this info in there for VHR owners:
- Fast Intentions long tubes are the WORST long tubes for the engine: they are too narrow of pipes and non-equal length.
- PPE Engineering is the best, they are equal-length and the right diameter piping. I suggest black ceramic coating for heat management.
- If you are on a budget, ISR long tubes are a good second choice. They are about 50% equal-length so still better than the FI headers.
I’m running PPE’s on my Nismo as well. I love them.
Whoa, I know that road you’re driving on. I’ve launched my mustang there so many times.🤣
Thank you doing my headers on my g on Friday
Great tutorial!!
Did these throw a cel and can you get it off without complete disabling the cel?
I just did mine and it did throw a CEL
@@etejeda1984 I appreciate you telling me man! I decided to go with Fast Intentions
You went with LTH? Are you in the DFW area? I am trying to find a place who can tune my car.
@@etejeda1984 Dallas Fort Worth? Nah man. Take it to admintuning!
@@etejeda1984 Dallas Fort Worth? Nah man. Take it to admintuning!
Oh nice , now I’ll just do this all myself
Nice headers 🔥🔥 there probably gonna be loud 👍🏽 like ur good to btw nice nice
How many feet do you use in both sides for extend the 02 sensor. ? I going to do this next week on my G37xs
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all i can say is ...
i wish you lived next door to me ..lol
master mechanic
good job.
Why did you reusable the oem gasket? The gasket is alot smaller than the header runners
it's the same size as the head exhaust ports, so it doesn't matter
Are you going to change the exhaust headers manifold? Fastintentions says to re use the gasket, do you think it's a good idea? Eugene says I have a leak on driver's side and I don't know if re tight headers or put a new gasket this time
I am also experience a potential leak. Can't hear anything, but the afr's are off a point suggesting a header leak. Could be the sensors though. My recommendation would be to change the gasket.
@@thecarizon504 I put a pair of new sensors and it got just a bit better. After flooring it and stopping or going slow I started to notice fuel smell (like a cold start if you stand outside in the back) so yes, re using the gaskets may not be a good advice from fastintentions
I'm shopping for headers , thinking of buying these . I have a stillen exhaust !? You guys think it would sound good ?
Motordyne
@@mastertech6049 They a lil pricey
Nice bro , was there a big difference in performance over the shorty headers and test
Nice job man and congrats! I have a G37 coupe. I'm debating about getting a plenum power mod, upper & lower port intake manifolds or... long tube headers???
I currently have Stillen long tube intakes, Berk high flow cats and Ark grip exhaust.
Thoughts please🤔
Where can I get those headers do you have the link ?
Google fast intentions long tube headers for 370Z, they make some of the highest quality exhaust parts available.
longtube headers are amazing!! I got isr longtube headers installed not the brand u went with. Did you feel a big difference?
Maybe a mild difference in power on the top end. Only way to know for sure is to tune and syno it but FI claims 10-15hp in gains.
How Was The Fitment of Header? You had to modify something? Or work with no problems? I ask you because i about 2 days ago
Hey man wanted to ask i have a g37s coupe rear wheel drive will the isr longtube headers fit on it?
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What brand headers are these?
Obx
Shorty or long??
It sounds amazing
Long
Can’t you see? Lol
Very helpful video! Can I ask why you went with "Fast intentions" headers? I am installing a complete package on a 2018 370Z. Trying to lock in a exhaust company to get the whole package from. So many shops???? Any advise is appreciated. Thanks
this was hella helpful! nice vid! Only question is why did you reuse the exhaust gasket? Since you already had them off why not replace?
Wasn't provided with spares and didn't want to wait for additional gaskets in. The header gaskets I've also heard are reusable, but I would always aim to replace when doing exhaust work.
Do the long tube headers create a problem with emissions??? What state are you located?
Texas, and yes, they delete your cats
Do you notice the infamous rasp hiss when rpms come back down to idling speeds ?
You know I was REALLY hopeful this would elliminate the rasp from the test pipes but it is still there, no change.
Love your videos! Just one question on header installation. You never comment on York specks of header bolts/nuts. Is it a concern?
Tork
specs
I just ordered fast intentions catback and test pipes but am torn by max gains from the headers. Are they worth it?
They only provide an additional 5whp of gain over test pipes for natural aspiration. Unless you are really chasing the numbers, it wouldn't be worth it.
@@thecarizon504 Thanx man 👍
Feel the pain. I just installed headers, z1 solid mounts, tomei and 3.9gears. my car has been on stand for almost 3 weeks. But getting ready to install a new radiator and she'll be all good to go. I have a 350z btw. But both are a pain.
Amazing video, very informative! I noticed that the check engine light wasn't triggered. Did it stay this way or did it eventually turn on? I'm trying to figure out a setup where I don't have any lights go on...
I had the car tuned when I installed the test pipes so it wouldn't throw a code.
@@thecarizon504 You're awesome, thanks for the info!
The Carizon who did the tune in your car?
@@etejeda1984 no one....yet! I'm first trying to figure out why the car goes to limp mode even after a fresh start. I keep getting P101 so I'm guessing it's the throttle body as I already got new MAF's.
Are you in the DFW area, I'f so you got someone shop to do the tune?
Mine seem fine no issue that I know of yet.
Hey bro nice Video , am thinking about adding some shorty headers for my g37. Will I see benefits in hp and what about cel , thank you in advance
You won't feel much of a difference but headers will definitely bring up the power. Long tubes are good for +20-30bhp after a tune. Not familiar with the gains seen by shorties but they are generally less than long tubes.
You should only see a cell if you remove your cats.
The Carizon thank you , what about the sound will it make is raspy
The Carizon I have order the shorties header for my g , is it worth it over the stock header. I know that long tube make better hp than the than shorties , but am not a big fan of loud exhaust sound
Why do you need to reorder the the studs, were the header manufacturers too lazy to make a plate that lined up with the original pattern?
What does exotic mean in exhaust terms? I’ve heard that word used excessively in reference to Nissan exhaust videos.
"Bust the Nuts...." lol
Did you reuse the oem header gaskets or use new gaskets?
love your Videos by the way your transmission removal video and clutch install really help me alot i was wondering if you could provide me the brand or Part# of that stubby 3/8 ratchet you used thanks
I threw away all the packaging so don't know the model number but I bought them from a home depot as a set. It looks like you can buy off brand ones online as singles for cheap.
Hey man I know you posted this a while ago I’m about to buy the isr long tubes for my 370 what kind of extension harness do I need I know when you buy them it gives you the 350z extension option on the website would that work or do I need to go another way
Does it sound more raspier
I'm here watching this & I don't even have a Nissan anymore.
I just bought the Motordyne long tube headers & im not sure if I would be able to do this myself lol. Are there any particular types of shops you’d recommend like a muffler shop or a dealer?
Dealervwould be ideal but it will be expensive.
Hey man you really didn't have to slice through the 02 Sensors to make them longer. There's a 02 sensor extension harness for Long tube headers. That save you time to do all that work and you could just plug and play the wiring harness.
That harness is at least 150
Where did you buy those intake hose's? I need high performance replacements for mine?
How tf do i take out the heat shield
i get same harness kit =:) , do u have any issue when u extended o2 sensor????
Hey! Another banger of a video but I have questions I’m new to building cars n I got a z. I installed a borla s type exhaust and I’ve been driving it for a bit and it sounds great but I want a deeper sound and more power. Would headers be the way to go? Also with these headers would I have to change the exhaust I have? Or how would I figure it out? If you answer this thank you so much for your help n time😭🤘🏽
For deeper sound, I would try resonators to pull out the rasp. I am not sure on if they work with the exhaust you have, but an exhaust shop could always put on compatible flanges.
@@thecarizon504 thank you so much for your help I’m sort of clueless out here right now but your channels been a huge guide🤘🏽keep the great videos coming!
Do u need a tune if you install long tube headers?
No
quick question - since I believe you are in the DFW area - does the LTH pass emissions without issue? Was there anything special you had to do to ensure it passed inspection.
I have been running test pipes for two years. It will throw a code for the cats which will cause you to fail inspection, however if you get the car tuned they can turn the circuitry off that checks the o2 limits. This means the car won't throw a CEL which is all the inspectors really look for.
@@thecarizon504 Thanks for the heads up - between the FI catback you installed - which I want to add to my Z; I've been on the fence about getting either LTHs or HFCs. I'm not a 100% sure about SC'ing the Z or just doing FBO; but watching your vids is making me want to SC the Z; I am really excited to see how your SC install goes - bc I haven't seen as much detail as you add to your vids on the interwebz or the Z forums.
Nice vid. Do you think it's worth it on the HR?
Hr is worth it, im pretty sure it has more torque than vhr but the vrh has more power
Amazing video. I look at my 370z engine compartment and touch nothing. I live in California is there such a thing as California emissions legal headers?
As long as it has a bung for the upper o2's and you don't pull out the catalytic converters you should be ok. That limits your options to just the short headers.
@@thecarizon504 Excellent I did not know that. I will look around for short headers to include o2 sensors. I really appreciate it. Great video.
did you have the car tuned after installing or does this not require a tune to drive like normal
If you are swapping out your catalytic converters yes, I would get the car tuned.
I had test pipes before so not as big a problem.
@carizon Who did you get it tuned with to remove the CEL since you deleted your catalytic converters?
Good job. Are your headers ceramic coated??? If they are, you may want to remove the heat wrap as they will warp the tubes due to overheating. Good luck with your project.
Nope, just sprayed with VHT paint to prevent rust.
@@thecarizon504 great. Enjoy your ride...
Anywhere that I can read more about this? I am about to purchase a pair of used PPE LTH next week, and they are both ceramic coated and heat wrapped.
@@ThatRedNismo Call PPE, talk to Eric or Paul and they will tell you that ceramic coated headers don't need wrapping at all. Wrapping will deform the tubes and crack them to the point where they will leak and will subsequently have to be replaced. I went through that and it"s a very expensive lesson...
@@MyBlkG35 Shit. How long did you have them on your car? The guy I’m buying from says they were on his car for about 1k miles, and they were on the original owner’s car for about 7k miles.
How will you pass smog with than installed?
Still struggling to have this done lol idk if its different with a G37x but fuck this lol
I’m looking for sum long tube headers for my q50 3.7, you think you can drop a link of where I can get them?
Google isr long tube headers
No tune is required after the install
What’s torque spec on the studs and bolts?
Does your Z run on a tune? Could you swap these same long tube headers into a stock tune and would it work fine?
You will have to tune to prevent check engine lights since the catalytic converter is deleted.
@@thecarizon504 Ok thank you.
@ carizon who did your tune to remove the CEL?
Will this fit a 2012 g25x?
What header wrap did you use, and hows it holding up.thanks
It was some off brand wrap from amazon, I just searched for "header wrap".
And it holds up unless you touch it (for exhaust work).
Do you know if the 370z/ g37 headers would fit in an m37 properly?
Probably not.
Will they fit on a g37s?
Do not try to take them off with a 3/8 that will make it hell seriously I had to weld 2 bolts to get them off and to do that I had to slide the headers with my sawsaw
hey fyi its bad practice to use a torque wrench as a breaker bar. it can mess with the calibration
It actually isn't a torque wrench, I misspoke. It's a flexing head breaker bar.
@@thecarizon504 yeah my bad. the video is capped at 360p so it looked just like a torque wrench. and where did you get the flex head breaker bar?
How do you disconnect the o2 sensor that’s up top?
A lot of patience and scratched up fingers, the space is very tight.
Tell me about performance, was there any improvement?
None noticeable. The only way to tell is on a dyno but you won't really feel it.
@@thecarizon504 That what i was told, not worth the hassle if engine is equipt with newer style OEM headers. Probably will go with motordyne type test pipes when hi-flow cats fail...
Yo, what the fuck? My block does not have empty thread locations for the repositioning of the studs????
It turns out that on pre 2014 blocks, you don't have to change the studs around. I'll make a video on my installation soon.
Are these equal length?
Yes FI long tubes are supposed ti be equal length.
hey i have a 08 g37 would 2016 370z headers fit?
I've been told they di not fit.
@@thecarizon504 any idea why they dont fit? they both a vq37? the same way you relocated your studs to fit yours i hear it can be done to fit them
How much horsepower did you gain from this install?
I didn't dyno before and after the test pipes but it's not unreasonable to assume maybe around 10-20 if replacing the catalytic converters. As much as 30+ if your car hasn't been tuned yet and you go for an aggressive tune.
are there any goo short tube headers for a 370z?
I hear Z1 makes good shorties.
The Carizon I thought those are made for 350’s
Their site claims it fits the 370Z
Pretty much any header made for a 350z can fit a 370z/G37. Only thing with using the Tomei or Z1 is you just have to get DE flange test pipes
Don’t unplug your battery if you have a tune! I was the idiot that did that :,)
Why not
I wanted long tubes now I'm thinking no fn way hfrc for me
Could you do this with a 350z
Yep, and they are almost the same.
What brand bro ISR ?
Fast Intentions
Where did you get it?
Fast Intentions
@@thecarizon504 thanks!
@@thecarizon504 just subscribed, I just watched a couple of videos. Keep it up love the channel
This is more difficult than the differential install and clutch ?? tf ? ???
The clutch install was more time consuming but these bolts were harder to get to.
damn bro you just like me when u call tools by name u make a mistake wrench or ratchet is all the same thing ha.
LOL U DID A PULL ON 121 I KNOW THAT SPOT LMAO IT LOOKED FAMILIAR
I recognize it too, lol
Great video. Sub from me
Just for ~12 hp in this case don't worth it. But nice vid 👍
Stupidly long throws on the Base £§0z Stickaroo. And definitely not any heel/toe Period. My out of the Storage Bubble 1975 Hyundai Pony XL 5 door 3 pedal will blow you and that thing into the weeds every time. Period
So basically what you’re saying is, it is worth the $300 to have a professional with all of their appropriate tools to install at the very least the long tube headers. LOL
I dont know of any reputable mechanic that would do this job for $300. Please send me his info if you know of one.
@@etejeda1984 it's a header install not a triple bypass surgery. I'd hate to live where you're at if they charge more...
My fast intentions LTH and full exhaust install was less than two hours done properly. I know this as I was in the bay watching as it happened. So figure a touch more than $150/hour for the work seems more than fair.
If you dont mind me asking you where and what shop you took it too? I have these coming in next week was going to tackle it myself but if its 300 or less to do the job I would consider it.
@@etejeda1984 do you live in the PNW? Mine were installed in 2011 over a decade ago. All I remember is that it was in Tacoma Washington.