It was never meant for Ukrainian service, it was an export product. Western media pumped it to be Ukraine's MBT, but they never fielded more than 6 for testing or demonstration as far as I know
@@honda6353 Ha, as a journalism student I understand that more than you could possibly know. Its all about sensationalism now, not actual reporting. Damn shame.
It was under previous president, Poroshenko, that the decision was made to refurbish and update old rusting tanks in mass, instead of producing new, but few Oplots (also, it was like 10x cheaper). Most of the tank stocks were T64 series, Ukraine chose to use them as their main tanks.
@@Uncle_Smallett the only difference is that vikings went to someone else's home while ukrainians do that at their own house with the enemies. dont rember the cases when vikings were defending from someone lol
@@Uncle_Smallett mgimo finished, yes? xD i really dont know the cases when vikins were defending instead of attackign someone, do you have some refreneces? no offcence, just wanna read something new
@@nudanuda11 In the year 1135 AD, Pomeranian Prince Racibor, a tributary of Polish King Boleslaw Wrymouth, led a fleet of Lechitic Slavs on a massive raid with the intention of capturing and ransacking of the Scandinavian trading center Konungahela, which was in present day Sweden. Leading a fleet of 550 Slavic ships, Racibor defeated the Norse and razed the city to the ground. Many historians believe that this raid played a critical role in ending the Scandinavian Viking age.
It's interesting how both Ukrainian and Russian armies have heavy soviet influence but both have gone somewhat separated ways in their military doctrines since the end of the soviet union. Seeing them clash is certainly interesting to see.
I think they have gone very separate ways, not just somewhat separate ways. For example, Ukraine is trying to espouse the Western approach where NCOs and junior ranks have a lot of responsibility delegated to them, meanwhile Russia has stuck with the top-heavy Soviet approach with ineffective NCOs and junior ranks. That's an entirely different approach to military education, training, role delegation, value of soldiers' lives, and whatever else.
A small correction. Many types of tanks were invented in Ukraine during the Soviet era. Therefore, the experience of working with tanks in Ukraine remained.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ukraine not being able to come out with a brand new tank on a brand new chasis half proves my point. Most Ukranian tanks are old Sov Era tanks that have been upgraded by a mix of Eastern and Western parts and kits. I guess the same goes for russia but without the western parts (besides very very very few cases of thermals on some nieche tanks)
@@TRPilot06YT There's no reason to design a brand new tank on a brand new chassis when you have thousands of serviceable tanks on perfectly good chassis in stock. It's much more cost effective to simply maintain and modernize what you already have instead of inventing something completely new for no reason.
@@TRPilot06YT This is not a correct judgment. Even after the collapse of the USSR, the Kharkiv Design Bureau for Machine Building named after A. A. Morozov developed modifications of the T64 and T80 tanks: in 1995 the T84 tank was introduced, in 1997 the T84-120, in 2009 the BM Oplot, also do not forget about the modifications of the T64. The tanks were developed under Ukrainian leadership, for example, the BM Oplot was developed under the leadership of Borisyuk Mikhail Demyanovich.
It was a part of the "New Army" project which started in 2016, MoD gathered a team of designers and historians to develop new insignias, battle flags and symbolics for each brigade to boost the morale of the troops. Every each of insignia has it's own historical meaning and cultral value according to the place of origin of the brigade.
Great video as always but a couple mistakes when discussing the Air Assault forces. You are missing the 81st air mobile brigade based at Druzhkivka. I'm not sure the 25th airborne brigade has tanks, rather it is listed that they have an anti-tank company. Also, I'm not sure if the 45th still exists. It hasn't been spotted yet and one of its prior battalions have been moved to the 35th naval infantry brigade.
81 separate airmobile brigades do not yet have tanks in their composition. The 45th separate airborne brigade(Ukraine) is armed with T-80BV tanks. 45th separate amphibious assault brigade still exist and is based in the city of Bolgrad, Odesa region. But there are no tanks in service either
Excellent video, especially as of September 10, 2022 as the world watches the Ukrainian counter-offensive east of Kharkiv. The units mentioned in this video (92nd Mech brigade with 1 tank battalion, the 25th Airborne and 80th Air Assault Brigade with each a tank company) (and presuming at full strength for the purpose of this counter-offensive), we are talking about 66 tanks supported by mechanized and motorized APC's and well supported by self propelled artillery and MRL. I cannot help but notice that this force is a microcosm parallel to the V Corps force which advanced onto Baghdad in 2003. The 3rd ID, 101st Air Assault Division and 2 airborne brigades was a combined arms force of air assault, paratroops and mechanized troops (not including the Brit's 1st Armoured Division). This video has been helpful in assessing how such a small divisional sized force (but composed of Ukraine's best troops) has been able to penetrate the Russian lines and strike deep into the rear. May they succeed in their mission. Great job with your observations and the TO&E for Ukrainian armor.
There's also BM "Oplot", which is the best T-80 variant so far. It was designed in 2009 and the only operator of those is Thailand (~50 machines were purchased in 2013) It wasn't probably shown, as it doesn't take part in actual war, though I guess it would be interesting to notice
Despite what wiki says, the Bulats did NOT go to the 4th Tank Brigade (neither did the original brigade take heavy losses in the Donbas War. Only around 7 Bulats were lost. Regardless, the remaining tanks underwent overhauls on account of age and were reissued to the 12th Separate Tank Battalion.
0:59 Ukraine fielded only around 140 of those t64bv 2017's of the planned 600 as of January 2022. There is at least 84 (likely 100+) confirmed losses of those t64bv 2017's as of November. Production also has stopped. They have around 50 of those left, on a good day, likely less.
I just alt tabbed from HOI4 to munch some food and watch this video. I was sure to put the music on pause first. The video starts and I thought the music in the game bugged back on..
Regarding the T-80, I remember an article stating that Ukraine has upgraded some T-80BV to T-80BV model 2017 which has the same upgrades as T-64BV Model 2017
6:23 T-72M1R does NOT feature new fire control system. This tank isn't even considered a modernization by Polish army and it's just a lift to keep tank running and replacing only it's most outdated parts like night vision and communication equipment sp they are usable until replacements arrive.
Probably the mistake appeared because Poland also used and sent PT91, heavily modernized T72. The PT91 (Twardy) was equipped with the DRAWA fire control system, which was not fitted to the T72R1.
Superb report, thanks ! I bet those sniper companies in the tank brigades are overworked as the only organic infantry AND recon ... They definitely should split the tanks with best optics as Aufklarers for the less well endowed companies. Ukraines OoB is so interesting, especially as they integrate new western platforms... Please keep us updated on the OoB changes as they evolve.
The skirts on the turret makes the tank look super unique compared to all t-64, 72 models comparable world wide. Even tho there prob 5mm plates they really change the silhouette of the tank🔥🔥
This is the anti-fragmentation armor of the turret. The experience of the war in the Donbass showed that a stray fragment flying under the turret can turn an MBT into a tank destroyer with a fixed tank turret. And these skirts also cover the heating parts of the tank from thermal imagers. It does not work against modern thermal imagers, but against the old Soviet devices, which all the main opponents of Ukraine are armed with, this is enough.
@@norbi1411 How is this a problem? I thought Brigades are the future, the Americans use them and the Chinese got rid of both regiment and division in favor of brigades.
@@longyu9336 And they're gonna face same problems as Russians when they got rid of divisions and now Ukrainians. Which is problem with coordinating large number of units. UA command structure(high command>military districts>brigades) was designed for low intensity oparations like war in Donbas where military districts were responsible for delagating brigates and battalions to ATO. And ATO command coordinated no more than equivalent of 1.5-2 divisions doing mostly garrison duties stretched on fairly small front. Bigger brigades where more independent, had bigger punch, could cover more area and fight longer. And no middle menagement level meant that whole command chain was much shorter. Now situation is completely different. Your front is not stretched around couple of counties but cuts whole damn country in half with hundrets of different units both Army, National Guard, Territorial Defence etc engaded on the frontlines . While bigger, more potent brigades proved to be a good idea, no division and corp level not. With no middle management much of this responsibility falls on the military districts and central command which is a big problem because they weren't designed for that. So the supposed shorter chain of command is now overflowed. You mentioned US Army before. US Army not only didn't get rid of division level but according to Waypoint 2028 is bringing back they role as a primary fighting force.
As usual excellent analysis.. need to make videos on my country Egypt as there is little info about the structure and formation of our great and modernized military
Poland have T72S with 3rd Gen Thermal..CITV .Sagem Savan FCS..German Power Pack/Gear/Tracks ERAWA5 Era ..New Ceramic Armor Filler.. Automatic Laser Warning + Grenade ..and a new 125mm gun..
couple of points: 1. Bulats and Oplots (mainy Oplot's) copeted with nevest modern tanks on par (especially Russian), but inability to ensure that contracts will be fullfilled made the clients chose Leopard or T72 (those two usual suspects won most of the competitions). Guess which country on Gasprom's payroll and guess which country puppeteered it's smaller neighbour's government?))) The reason there's not manu Bulats, that they require sophisticated equipment and at the cost of building one Bulat, we can repair and update 4 to 6 T-64 tanks. Considering the state in which Yanukovich and his team left the army when he fled to russia, it's obvious choice to field 5 older but yet reliable and effective tanks, cheap in repair (if we compare), than 1 Bulat, even if the latter proved to be effective war machine. 2. "Infamous?" Those "infamous" people defended Mariupil against wastly superior numbers of soldiers fielded by the country, which blames them for about anything that goes in this world (still have no clue how they didn't blame the regiment in the Assad's chemical attacks). 3. National Guards of Ukraine are military branch, which is responsible for providing national security. That's why they trained by nato standards. That's why they have tank brigades. That's why they were one of the first responders when russians began to land paratroopers near Kyiv. 4. Since the Crimea was occupied by russia, we had no illusions and prepared, in tactics and in training. Heavy losses of the first stage of russo-ukrainian war (2014-2015, war is currently ongoing) helped us to sber up and completely rebuild entire logistics and eliminate rats stealing from military funding. We barely scraped off on the shoulders of volunteers back then (yep, that, as you called, "infamous" regiment deoccupied Mariupil without blodshed) and took the agression pretty close to the chest, which pays off today. World gave us 72 hours. We disagreed. P.S. Today they bomber shopping mall in Kremenchuk. Estimatedly about 1000 civilians were there. Russian telegram and facebook congrats their "brave heroes" with successful hit.
"infamous" turned out to be bunch of fakes who would rather surrender and be trialed and parraded than die, which they claimed so many times they will do.....so as everything and anything revolving around Ukraine being good or simmilar is fake. SBU was declared by USA's offical document of the DoD a violator of human rights just in 2021, USA does not supply weapons to above mentiod, LOL.....puppet state with corrupt goverment, influenced by far right nationalist. Your anti-russian stance, refusing to even consider MINSK2, banning all political opostion, banning russian language and books......whatever you get and whatever the outcome you deserve every piece and gramm of steel Russia sends your way.
А где тела? Или всю 1000 завалило? А то, что он не работал с марта что ли или это другое? И почему на фотках возле тц ходили с автоматами? Зачем? Почему людей не спасали?)
@@boringhero8172 пані, ви звідки? тц працюють. навіть в Києві тц не працювали тільки тоді, коли ваша бидлоармія стояла біля Ірпіня. Фото будь-ласка. А то ваша ботня пздт 24/7
Mmm salt. What was the reason Ukraine for shelling civilians in Donetsk? Yes Azov is infamous. Neo N@zi (pointless to deny it) groups tend to be, especially if they're accused of atrocities. PS I can only see 2 out of 4 replies.
Hey @BattleOrder, does the UKR Tank Brigade also include a Motorized Battalion, like your other UKR video suggests? Or is it more subjective depending on the availability of the motorised Battalions or attached from elsewhere? Enjoying your content as always! 👍
@@TRPilot06YT thanks a lot for ur answer! I was making Ukraine jet models but not sure which color to put on…was that blue with grey camouflage or blue with yellow camouflage?
@@sergeontheloose A brigade is the smallest unit size that can fight on its own.. Its self contained... - at least in NATO doctrin it is - which means it may be required to do so. It is true that in ideal conditions a brigade will never fight alone... how ever... ideal conditions are often not met in times of war. They will most likely be asked to moved under their own protection going from front section to front section. in which case the units infantry will do the security of the brigade... considering war time units are seldom on 100% strength, its not a lot of infantry to defend ambushes setup by enemy SoF or recon. Its the same you saw with RU BTGs - too light on infantry to support the armor... and it didn't help that they had left most of their infantry because they were conscripts. Also - as soon as a breakthrough is achieved, it is the purpose of the tank brigades to exploit a breakthrough... in which case they may have to wait for the mechanized infantry brigades to catch up. as the infantry will be spread thin securing the artillery, armor, AA etc. As far as i recall a US tank brigade has equal or more infantry companies than tank companies.
I only know the situation in one brigade, the 59th Motorized Brigade, but I know for a fact that it had 3 tanks per platoon on the first day of the invasion and I doubt they have more than that now. Should be 4 doctrinally but anyone familiar with the state of the military knows units can be far from the doctrinal standards especially, it seems, motorized brigades but don't quote me on that. Perhaps the new commander of the 59th, Colonel Vadym Sukharevsky, will improve that to 4 per platoon and really bring it up to snuff like he did with the 503rd Independent Marine Battalion when in 2016 he took over what was an empty husk of a battalion with personnel that were 5th and 6th wave draftees rather than marines, but it'll be harder to do that again during such intense combat operations as there are in 2022. Here's an interview with a Ukrainian tank company commander from the 59th and he mentions a number of times that they had 3 tanks per platoon. He also mentions at least once that the tank company had 10 tanks which is 3 per platoon plus 1 commander's tank. I don't think there's a translation for the interview though. ua-cam.com/video/b2vUvAyPUjo/v-deo.html
@battleorder any new updates to this video? It’s almost been a year and I know based on all the new transfers and changes that the Ukrainian Armor must be facing some major difficulties with implementing all of these new systems. I’d love to see your feedback. Thank you for the great video as well.
It doesn't have the flyer plates like those on the BM. Its the Nozh explosive filler with the shaped charges, but in kontakt 1 housing. So a bit less effective, than the originals, but saves a lot of weight.
You missed the Airborne' upgraded T-80BV_Mod 2018, which were upgraded end of 2017 to early 2018 after they had upgraded enough of the "Ground Forces" T64BV_Mod 2017. T-80BV zr. 2018, or model 2018. Modifications conducted by Ukraine: Gunner’s TPN-1-TPV Thermal Imager Lybid K-2RB Digital Radio Stations CH-4215 Satellite Navigation System Luna Infrared Sight Removal Optional: Mounting of Nozh ERA At least 88 were in service at beginning of full scale war...
@@sergeontheloose Slovenia sends 54 M-84 tanks to Ukraine. Perhaps Croatia will send some of their fleet. They are more than a few. Would be interesting how they perform.
This was very useful Im making a Ukraine themed WW3 Team yankees army list and wanted to no what tanks and foreign equipment they were using. (for anyone wondering what team yankees is its a a table top war game similar to 40k)
@@longyu9336 🤣🤣🤣 In all seriousness I suspect they operate much in the same way other NATO tank companies do 2 Company Command Tanks 1st Platoon of 4 Leopards 2nd Platoon of 4 Leopards Attached recon Puma? Or do they still operate Marders?
T80 is upgraded T64 with turbine engine. T90 is upgraded T72. Alot of people don't relize that the T64 was very advanced for its time. Thus is was very expensive for USSR to produce. T72 was actually produced as a much simpler, cheaper, tank to serve along side T64. T64 mostly went to more elite units. T72 went to conscripts and mobilized units.
If the DP, ST, and Senior Starshina are not outfitted with a Tank as standard, then the Ukrainian system is not NATO-based, but may be influenced by factors such as being able to maintain a level of combat power with fewer units, standardization of unit sizes, and ease of operational directives to be tasked to multiple units rather than multiple units tasked to a single operational directive. At the same time, it still sounds like Ukraine was heavily influenced by Eastern Doctrines which their Tanks, Vehicles, and Air Units were all established with in the first place. Unlike Poland which uses a mix of East and West, though, it is currently opting for both Domestic and Western Standardization. Now if only we had some M60-200-120S Tanks sitting around. While a four-person Tank, it's roughly same era and theoretically could have its gun swapped for a 125mm or keep the 120mm.
Ukraine: maintains and upgrades thousands of older tanks/armored vehicles for modern combat. Russia(soviet union 2): builds 10 new tanks but doesn't have the budget or infrastructure for any more and forgets to replace the BTR series.
It will be interesting to see what tanks (along with other military gear) Ukraine takes on in future both during the war and after. More Soviet tanks from NATO countries, Polish PT-91s and second hand Leopards seem like obvious candidates. Ukraine is not going to be in a position to buy new tanks for a while. I think its also possible that if the conflict ends with Ukraine in a favourable negotiating position it's possible equipment from Russian stocks could get handed over as reperations, since Russia is not going to be in a strong economic position for a while either.
There still is strong possibility Ukraine may built own new tanks, it may be interesting for weapon market due to Ukraine for now is only country with experience of modern fullscale war.
It would sound to reason. That they would structure them by similarity. Leopards with Leopards, Abrams with Abrams, tho it also does make sense that they could have them structured like for example Leopards and Abrams in the same unit.
@@saturnv2419 most of the world uses soviet style gear from india to eastern russia, china, cuba, morocco as well as iran. Nato allies such as poland czechia bulgaria slovakia croatia all use soviet style equipment. Soviet gear will never die. Obsolete sure but people will still use em as they are cheap and easy to use. Its about the user not the weapon.
You've missed probably the most capable tank Ukrainians have in significant numbers, that is Polish PT-91's. We had around 280 of them, and all went to fight in Ukraine (well, the number may be a little bit lower if not all were operational). That is on top of all Polish T-72'sM1 and M1R. PT-91 is the most advanced modification of t-72, and it turn out to be quite good tank if you plan to fight russkies...
pt-91 - рівень Т-72АВ 74 року. Пт-91 рядом не стоїть з такими танками як Т-64БВ (2017), Т-64БМ/2, Т-72АМТ, Т-80БВ. Якщо ти не розбираєшся в танках, то просто не сунь носа туди. Лише Т-64БВ в Україні більше 2000 штук, не рахуючи інших.
@@dizlike6147 Well...not really. I mean, it is still based on shitty t-72, but it is still superior to Most post soviet tanks you've mention... It has modern night and thermo vision. It has better fire control. Great ERA, superior to russian kontakt, dont know about ukraine Niz. Modern automatic exstinguisher, you really want that in post soviet tank... and radio, that actually provides you communication:) If we would be fighting world war 2 style battles, I would agree that t-64 is better due to better armor. But its 2022, so night vision and other modern electronics makes a difference...
Need to say that battalion in tank brigade should have 31 tank (3 company by 10)+1 and total is 93 tanks per tank brigade. Because somebody could asume falsely that tank brigade could have more than 120 tanks based on 40 tanks per battalion structure
@@csec95 tank battalion in tank brigades has different qty comparing to infantry ones. 1 platoon has 3 tanks. 3 platoons + 1 tank of company commander forms a company (10 tanks). 3 companies + 1 tank of battalion commander it is battalion with 31 tanks. 3 battalions gives in total 93 tanks.
So your saying the Ukrainians still use 3 tank platoons in tank brigades? His point is that they did, but then they changed to a universal 4 tank platoon. So, between the 2 of you, I have to ask... source? (No disrespect, just finding out who's correct)
Thanks to Ukrainian soldiers and the Ukrainian people for the fight against Russian fascism of the 21st century. This is a struggle not only for their survival and independent existence, but also for the ideals of democracy in the Western world 🇺🇦
So called "captured T64s" were a part of propaganda. Most of these literaly hundreds of tanks in 1st and 2nd AK were delivered from Russian storage bases, some amount were captured from Ukraine in occupied Crimea. Of course some were captured in Donbass region during 14-15 battles but it's dozens comparing to total number of hundreds. Not funny thing this is more than total number of tanks in Germany or UK or France or Italy alone.
Western Media* Ukraine is begging for western tanks since the ones they started with plus the Soviet era tanks they got from NATO countries got destroyed. Meanwhile Russia still has many of their modern tanks and is sending more.
@@The_WhiteSilver Literally videos of Russian T-90s and T-72s being used in recent battles including near Bakhmut. The Russians are also building more T-90s and modernising more of their older T-72s that were pulled out of storage.
"Infamous" doesn't really describe the fact that Azov are literally awful, evil Nazis. But at least you called them infamous instead of completely glossing over it I guess....
The T-84 Oplot was so publicized I thought it was Ukraine’s primary MBT for like 10 years
It’s surprising how few were actually produced
It was never meant for Ukrainian service, it was an export product. Western media pumped it to be Ukraine's MBT, but they never fielded more than 6 for testing or demonstration as far as I know
@@The_Lunch_Man media in general* usually talks too much about a subject they don't understand.
@@honda6353 Ha, as a journalism student I understand that more than you could possibly know. Its all about sensationalism now, not actual reporting. Damn shame.
Poor tank developers need money. Please buy our tank
one simple fact, Ukraine is the poorest country in Europe, THE poorest
Engineers: How many T-64 variants do you want?
Volodymyr: Yes.
It was under previous president, Poroshenko, that the decision was made to refurbish and update old rusting tanks in mass, instead of producing new, but few Oplots (also, it was like 10x cheaper). Most of the tank stocks were T64 series, Ukraine chose to use them as their main tanks.
T-64 old but great tank
@@NeblogaiLT T64 better T90A, T72B3 and more
@@b0nk278 newer ≠ better
@@adingus8514 Kid, omg 😂
The joke was that the 93rd Mechanized had captured so many enemy Russian tanks, that they should be redesignated as the 93rd Armored.
It sounds like some viking saga with all that trophys... Crash, kill and rob... world forgot this part of wars already.
@@Uncle_Smallett the only difference is that vikings went to someone else's home while ukrainians do that at their own house with the enemies.
dont rember the cases when vikings were defending from someone lol
@@nudanuda11 always one from another. Each fiord has own jarl, aaand traditional clan-feodal skirmishes was like an season change holiday.
@@Uncle_Smallett mgimo finished, yes? xD
i really dont know the cases when vikins were defending instead of attackign someone, do you have some refreneces? no offcence, just wanna read something new
@@nudanuda11 In the year 1135 AD, Pomeranian Prince Racibor, a tributary of Polish King Boleslaw Wrymouth, led a fleet of Lechitic Slavs on a massive raid with the intention of capturing and ransacking of the Scandinavian trading center Konungahela, which was in present day Sweden. Leading a fleet of 550 Slavic ships, Racibor defeated the Norse and razed the city to the ground. Many historians believe that this raid played a critical role in ending the Scandinavian Viking age.
It's interesting how both Ukrainian and Russian armies have heavy soviet influence but both have gone somewhat separated ways in their military doctrines since the end of the soviet union. Seeing them clash is certainly interesting to see.
It is also interesting how all this divergence has happened in just the past ~30 years.
I think they have gone very separate ways, not just somewhat separate ways. For example, Ukraine is trying to espouse the Western approach where NCOs and junior ranks have a lot of responsibility delegated to them, meanwhile Russia has stuck with the top-heavy Soviet approach with ineffective NCOs and junior ranks. That's an entirely different approach to military education, training, role delegation, value of soldiers' lives, and whatever else.
@@842wolves arguably the last 8
the ukrainian military has been aggressively revamped since the 2014 invasion of crimea.
@@justanaverageguy912 Before 2014 some nato observers said that the Ukrainian army was even more "soviet" than the Russian one.
im glad you entertained by events in our country
Your videos get BETTER an BETTER!!! Keep making great content, loving it :)
its too late. AFU doesn't have tank units left.
A small correction. Many types of tanks were invented in Ukraine during the Soviet era. Therefore, the experience of working with tanks in Ukraine remained.
I mean brain drain is a thing. I feel like most USSR tank desginers went back to Russia when USSR fell
The Soviet era was over 30 years ago. A 35 year old designer when the Soviet Union collapsed would have retired by now.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ukraine not being able to come out with a brand new tank on a brand new chasis half proves my point.
Most Ukranian tanks are old Sov Era tanks that have been upgraded by a mix of Eastern and Western parts and kits.
I guess the same goes for russia but without the western parts (besides very very very few cases of thermals on some nieche tanks)
@@TRPilot06YT There's no reason to design a brand new tank on a brand new chassis when you have thousands of serviceable tanks on perfectly good chassis in stock. It's much more cost effective to simply maintain and modernize what you already have instead of inventing something completely new for no reason.
@@TRPilot06YT This is not a correct judgment. Even after the collapse of the USSR, the Kharkiv Design Bureau for Machine Building named after A. A. Morozov developed modifications of the T64 and T80 tanks: in 1995 the T84 tank was introduced, in 1997 the T84-120, in 2009 the BM Oplot, also do not forget about the modifications of the T64. The tanks were developed under Ukrainian leadership, for example, the BM Oplot was developed under the leadership of Borisyuk Mikhail Demyanovich.
Can we all agree that the insignias of Ukraines armoured brigades are cool as hell?
Chad country
It was a part of the "New Army" project which started in 2016, MoD gathered a team of designers and historians to develop new insignias, battle flags and symbolics for each brigade to boost the morale of the troops. Every each of insignia has it's own historical meaning and cultral value according to the place of origin of the brigade.
Great video as always but a couple mistakes when discussing the Air Assault forces. You are missing the 81st air mobile brigade based at Druzhkivka. I'm not sure the 25th airborne brigade has tanks, rather it is listed that they have an anti-tank company. Also, I'm not sure if the 45th still exists. It hasn't been spotted yet and one of its prior battalions have been moved to the 35th naval infantry brigade.
81 separate airmobile brigades do not yet have tanks in their composition.
The 45th separate airborne brigade(Ukraine) is armed with T-80BV tanks.
45th separate amphibious assault brigade still exist and is based in the city of Bolgrad, Odesa region. But there are no tanks in service either
Excellent video, especially as of September 10, 2022 as the world watches the Ukrainian counter-offensive east of Kharkiv. The units mentioned in this video (92nd Mech brigade with 1 tank battalion, the 25th Airborne and 80th Air Assault Brigade with each a tank company) (and presuming at full strength for the purpose of this counter-offensive), we are talking about 66 tanks supported by mechanized and motorized APC's and well supported by self propelled artillery and MRL. I cannot help but notice that this force is a microcosm parallel to the V Corps force which advanced onto Baghdad in 2003. The 3rd ID, 101st Air Assault Division and 2 airborne brigades was a combined arms force of air assault, paratroops and mechanized troops (not including the Brit's 1st Armoured Division). This video has been helpful in assessing how such a small divisional sized force (but composed of Ukraine's best troops) has been able to penetrate the Russian lines and strike deep into the rear. May they succeed in their mission. Great job with your observations and the TO&E for Ukrainian armor.
I love how in depth your content is on military forces around the world. Truly unmatched on UA-cam!
There's also BM "Oplot", which is the best T-80 variant so far. It was designed in 2009 and the only operator of those is Thailand (~50 machines were purchased in 2013)
It wasn't probably shown, as it doesn't take part in actual war, though I guess it would be interesting to notice
Ukraine also uses it in modern war but they have like 6 of them...
Despite what wiki says, the Bulats did NOT go to the 4th Tank Brigade (neither did the original brigade take heavy losses in the Donbas War. Only around 7 Bulats were lost. Regardless, the remaining tanks underwent overhauls on account of age and were reissued to the 12th Separate Tank Battalion.
Your videos are always so well organized and very nice looking, visually.
0:59 Ukraine fielded only around 140 of those t64bv 2017's of the planned 600 as of January 2022. There is at least 84 (likely 100+) confirmed losses of those t64bv 2017's as of November. Production also has stopped. They have around 50 of those left, on a good day, likely less.
Can you talk about infantry battalions? of Ukraine.
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I can! They are dying by the rate of more then 1000 a day.
@@RustedCroaker Noice
hoi4 comintern theme at the start, couldn't miss it.
I just alt tabbed from HOI4 to munch some food and watch this video. I was sure to put the music on pause first. The video starts and I thought the music in the game bugged back on..
Neat. As always!
This channel is absolute gold
Regarding the T-80, I remember an article stating that Ukraine has upgraded some T-80BV to T-80BV model 2017 which has the same upgrades as T-64BV Model 2017
#6:43 - Tank Brigades
#6:54 - Mechanized Brigades
#7:05 - Motorized Brigades
#7:13 Brigade - Overview
#8:26 - single MBT
#8:35 - Tank Platoon
#9:38 - Tank Company
#10:28 - Tank Battalion
#11:11 - Tank Brigade
6:23 T-72M1R does NOT feature new fire control system. This tank isn't even considered a modernization by Polish army and it's just a lift to keep tank running and replacing only it's most outdated parts like night vision and communication equipment sp they are usable until replacements arrive.
Probably the mistake appeared because Poland also used and sent PT91, heavily modernized T72. The PT91 (Twardy) was equipped with the DRAWA fire control system, which was not fitted to the T72R1.
Superb report, thanks ! I bet those sniper companies in the tank brigades are overworked as the only organic infantry AND recon ... They definitely should split the tanks with best optics as Aufklarers for the less well endowed companies. Ukraines OoB is so interesting, especially as they integrate new western platforms... Please keep us updated on the OoB changes as they evolve.
Great video, as always
Would be great to see an overview of Ukraine's artillery.
Great work keep it up!
The skirts on the turret makes the tank look super unique compared to all t-64, 72 models comparable world wide. Even tho there prob 5mm plates they really change the silhouette of the tank🔥🔥
This is the anti-fragmentation armor of the turret. The experience of the war in the Donbass showed that a stray fragment flying under the turret can turn an MBT into a tank destroyer with a fixed tank turret. And these skirts also cover the heating parts of the tank from thermal imagers. It does not work against modern thermal imagers, but against the old Soviet devices, which all the main opponents of Ukraine are armed with, this is enough.
1:02 Those ""Separatist" captured T-64" were already in early stadium of 2014 war sent from the tank storege of Novosibirsk
Of course there were real captured T-64, but now in 2022 there will be just very few of them
Brigades have not four but five battalions each. There should be a fith motorized battalion listed in each brigade.
How many brigades and battalions are one division?
@@blixerie9317 UA has no division or corp level(and it's a big problem for them).
Check the previous videos about UA.
So 3 tank 1 motorized 1 mechanized? Sounds far more balanced and US oriented.
@@norbi1411 How is this a problem? I thought Brigades are the future, the Americans use them and the Chinese got rid of both regiment and division in favor of brigades.
@@longyu9336 And they're gonna face same problems as Russians when they got rid of divisions and now Ukrainians. Which is problem with coordinating large number of units. UA command structure(high command>military districts>brigades) was designed for low intensity oparations like war in Donbas where military districts were responsible for delagating brigates and battalions to ATO. And ATO command coordinated no more than equivalent of 1.5-2 divisions doing mostly garrison duties stretched on fairly small front. Bigger brigades where more independent, had bigger punch, could cover more area and fight longer. And no middle menagement level meant that whole command chain was much shorter. Now situation is completely different. Your front is not stretched around couple of counties but cuts whole damn country in half with hundrets of different units both Army, National Guard, Territorial Defence etc engaded on the frontlines . While bigger, more potent brigades proved to be a good idea, no division and corp level not. With no middle management much of this responsibility falls on the military districts and central command which is a big problem because they weren't designed for that. So the supposed shorter chain of command is now overflowed.
You mentioned US Army before. US Army not only didn't get rid of division level but according to Waypoint 2028 is bringing back they role as a primary fighting force.
5:19 the Tank with Fury on the barrel is badass
Day 1 of asking Battle Order for a video on the Bundeswehr
It would be great to see a video on the process of the capturing, extracting, modifying and remobilizinig of a Russian tank start to finish.
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The T-64BV is still in service with Ukraine now, it’s amazing.
Will there ever be a video about the army of the DPR and LPR?
depends if we got their unit composition
We might not get a vid on it for a while. I dont think theres much public informayion aswell as strict organisation on their sides
Copy paste of russian lineup but with t62
@@CC-tl2sr With 40 years older equipment, ammunition and WW2 era trauma kits with a considerbly less amount of NCOs
@Grassy Knoll The armies that are destroying Ukrop forces by the ten folds each day you blind Western sheep
Thankfully this information is 6 months old.
Usage of T80 BVM and T72 B3 Obr. 2016's in the formations is definitely more recent than 6 months.
As usual excellent analysis.. need to make videos on my country Egypt as there is little info about the structure and formation of our great and modernized military
Anyone else hear the Conflict Desert Storm music in the background???
Can't fall back with front armor facing the threat at a decent speed is really hurting them.
Yeah, but tank cost less and it guts became a bit simplier and lighter. Soviet doctrine of "Neeeed moooore taaaanks!".
Very well made video!
That background music has me trying to click on things, reorganised my units, and fast forward...
Lol, who else saw the Ukraine version of "Fury" in 5:19 😂 this new movie and games generation boys
good journalism
Anyone else see that Fury painted on a T-80's barrel?
You forgot that Ukraine had or has T-72B 1989 models a couple of pieces if not dozens.
Poland have T72S with 3rd Gen Thermal..CITV .Sagem Savan FCS..German Power Pack/Gear/Tracks ERAWA5 Era ..New Ceramic Armor Filler.. Automatic Laser Warning + Grenade ..and a new 125mm gun..
Nope. That's configuration for Malaya army.
umm, no.
Вот он один и ездит взад-назад по Украине!!! 🤣
couple of points:
1. Bulats and Oplots (mainy Oplot's) copeted with nevest modern tanks on par (especially Russian), but inability to ensure that contracts will be fullfilled made the clients chose Leopard or T72 (those two usual suspects won most of the competitions). Guess which country on Gasprom's payroll and guess which country puppeteered it's smaller neighbour's government?)))
The reason there's not manu Bulats, that they require sophisticated equipment and at the cost of building one Bulat, we can repair and update 4 to 6 T-64 tanks. Considering the state in which Yanukovich and his team left the army when he fled to russia, it's obvious choice to field 5 older but yet reliable and effective tanks, cheap in repair (if we compare), than 1 Bulat, even if the latter proved to be effective war machine.
2. "Infamous?" Those "infamous" people defended Mariupil against wastly superior numbers of soldiers fielded by the country, which blames them for about anything that goes in this world (still have no clue how they didn't blame the regiment in the Assad's chemical attacks).
3. National Guards of Ukraine are military branch, which is responsible for providing national security. That's why they trained by nato standards. That's why they have tank brigades. That's why they were one of the first responders when russians began to land paratroopers near Kyiv.
4. Since the Crimea was occupied by russia, we had no illusions and prepared, in tactics and in training. Heavy losses of the first stage of russo-ukrainian war (2014-2015, war is currently ongoing) helped us to sber up and completely rebuild entire logistics and eliminate rats stealing from military funding. We barely scraped off on the shoulders of volunteers back then (yep, that, as you called, "infamous" regiment deoccupied Mariupil without blodshed) and took the agression pretty close to the chest, which pays off today.
World gave us 72 hours. We disagreed.
P.S. Today they bomber shopping mall in Kremenchuk. Estimatedly about 1000 civilians were there. Russian telegram and facebook congrats their "brave heroes" with successful hit.
"infamous" turned out to be bunch of fakes who would rather surrender and be trialed and parraded than die, which they claimed so many times they will do.....so as everything and anything revolving around Ukraine being good or simmilar is fake. SBU was declared by USA's offical document of the DoD a violator of human rights just in 2021, USA does not supply weapons to above mentiod, LOL.....puppet state with corrupt goverment, influenced by far right nationalist. Your anti-russian stance, refusing to even consider MINSK2, banning all political opostion, banning russian language and books......whatever you get and whatever the outcome you deserve every piece and gramm of steel Russia sends your way.
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А где тела? Или всю 1000 завалило? А то, что он не работал с марта что ли или это другое? И почему на фотках возле тц ходили с автоматами? Зачем? Почему людей не спасали?)
@@boringhero8172 пані, ви звідки? тц працюють. навіть в Києві тц не працювали тільки тоді, коли ваша бидлоармія стояла біля Ірпіня. Фото будь-ласка. А то ваша ботня пздт 24/7
Mmm salt.
What was the reason Ukraine for shelling civilians in Donetsk?
Yes Azov is infamous. Neo N@zi (pointless to deny it) groups tend to be, especially if they're accused of atrocities.
PS I can only see 2 out of 4 replies.
Hey @BattleOrder, does the UKR Tank Brigade also include a Motorized Battalion, like your other UKR video suggests?
Or is it more subjective depending on the availability of the motorised Battalions or attached from elsewhere?
Enjoying your content as always! 👍
Very interesting video.
Do you have Ukraine Air Force models introduction? Cause their Mig-29 color is quite confusing….Are they in digital camouflage or blue camouflage…?
Common service camo is the Grey/white digital camo.
BUT there have been some MiG29s that have been spotted with the high vis blue camos
@@TRPilot06YT thanks a lot for ur answer! I was making Ukraine jet models but not sure which color to put on…was that blue with grey camouflage or blue with yellow camouflage?
If you have another way of contact, like discord, I have a good reference book that I can send pictures from.
@@supersarge24 I have discord, how do I add urs?
@@engrace322 You may add Sarge#1915 and I will accept and DM you later.
damn the Tanke brigade is light on infantry 1 mechanized betalion and perhaps the recce coy to protect that much asset and armor...
@@sergeontheloose A brigade is the smallest unit size that can fight on its own.. Its self contained... - at least in NATO doctrin it is - which means it may be required to do so.
It is true that in ideal conditions a brigade will never fight alone... how ever... ideal conditions are often not met in times of war. They will most likely be asked to moved under their own protection going from front section to front section. in which case the units infantry will do the security of the brigade... considering war time units are seldom on 100% strength, its not a lot of infantry to defend ambushes setup by enemy SoF or recon.
Its the same you saw with RU BTGs - too light on infantry to support the armor... and it didn't help that they had left most of their infantry because they were conscripts.
Also - as soon as a breakthrough is achieved, it is the purpose of the tank brigades to exploit a breakthrough... in which case they may have to wait for the mechanized infantry brigades to catch up. as the infantry will be spread thin securing the artillery, armor, AA etc.
As far as i recall a US tank brigade has equal or more infantry companies than tank companies.
Where did you find the logo for 66th mechanised brigade?
They have a Facebook: facebook.com/66ombr
@@BattleOrder Thank you!
Thanks for pertinent information.
Qestion: does UKR tank platoon have 4 or 3 tanks??
Doctrinally, 4 tanks. Some units may run 3 tanks though.
@@BattleOrder ok
I only know the situation in one brigade, the 59th Motorized Brigade, but I know for a fact that it had 3 tanks per platoon on the first day of the invasion and I doubt they have more than that now. Should be 4 doctrinally but anyone familiar with the state of the military knows units can be far from the doctrinal standards especially, it seems, motorized brigades but don't quote me on that. Perhaps the new commander of the 59th, Colonel Vadym Sukharevsky, will improve that to 4 per platoon and really bring it up to snuff like he did with the 503rd Independent Marine Battalion when in 2016 he took over what was an empty husk of a battalion with personnel that were 5th and 6th wave draftees rather than marines, but it'll be harder to do that again during such intense combat operations as there are in 2022.
Here's an interview with a Ukrainian tank company commander from the 59th and he mentions a number of times that they had 3 tanks per platoon. He also mentions at least once that the tank company had 10 tanks which is 3 per platoon plus 1 commander's tank. I don't think there's a translation for the interview though. ua-cam.com/video/b2vUvAyPUjo/v-deo.html
A really amazing and usefull video!!
Please do a video about the finnish defence forces
@battleorder any new updates to this video? It’s almost been a year and I know based on all the new transfers and changes that the Ukrainian Armor must be facing some major difficulties with implementing all of these new systems. I’d love to see your feedback. Thank you for the great video as well.
I thought the T-64BV mod. 2017 *did not* have Nozh ERA, which was its main difference from the T-64BM.
It doesn't have the flyer plates like those on the BM. Its the Nozh explosive filler with the shaped charges, but in kontakt 1 housing. So a bit less effective, than the originals, but saves a lot of weight.
@@wyattbates5019 I see, thank you. It did at least look like Kontakt-1, but that explains it.
You missed the Airborne' upgraded T-80BV_Mod 2018, which were upgraded end of 2017 to early 2018 after they had upgraded enough of the "Ground Forces" T64BV_Mod 2017.
T-80BV zr. 2018, or model 2018.
Modifications conducted by Ukraine:
Gunner’s TPN-1-TPV Thermal Imager
Lybid K-2RB Digital Radio Stations
CH-4215 Satellite Navigation System
Luna Infrared Sight Removal
Optional: Mounting of Nozh ERA
At least 88 were in service at beginning of full scale war...
What about the M-84 Tanks the Ukraine recive from Slovenia?
@@sergeontheloose Slovenia sends 54 M-84 tanks to Ukraine. Perhaps Croatia will send some of their fleet. They are more than a few. Would be interesting how they perform.
Very informative.
Wow the details! Great video, thank you 🇺🇸 🇺🇦
Great information
Stop using term "infamous" towards AZOV, today they are "famous", they are heroes and one of the most combat effective regiments of UAF!!!
This was very useful Im making a Ukraine themed WW3 Team yankees army list and wanted to no what tanks and foreign equipment they were using. (for anyone wondering what team yankees is its a a table top war game similar to 40k)
Is that hoi4 music I hear?
yup
Very informative, thx.
When is the Bundeswehr Panzerkompanie organization video coming out?
4*3 Leopards but 6 of them are not operational, two sit in the hangars of KMW for repairs and the remaining four are somewhat ready.
@@longyu9336 🤣🤣🤣
In all seriousness I suspect they operate much in the same way other NATO tank companies do
2 Company Command Tanks
1st Platoon of 4 Leopards
2nd Platoon of 4 Leopards
Attached recon
Puma? Or do they still operate Marders?
@@danielestrella3896 Parallel but Marders are being phased out.
T80 is upgraded T64 with turbine engine. T90 is upgraded T72. Alot of people don't relize that the T64 was very advanced for its time. Thus is was very expensive for USSR to produce. T72 was actually produced as a much simpler, cheaper, tank to serve along side T64. T64 mostly went to more elite units. T72 went to conscripts and mobilized units.
💛💙 Slava Ukraine! 🤘
If the DP, ST, and Senior Starshina are not outfitted with a Tank as standard, then the Ukrainian system is not NATO-based, but may be influenced by factors such as being able to maintain a level of combat power with fewer units, standardization of unit sizes, and ease of operational directives to be tasked to multiple units rather than multiple units tasked to a single operational directive.
At the same time, it still sounds like Ukraine was heavily influenced by Eastern Doctrines which their Tanks, Vehicles, and Air Units were all established with in the first place.
Unlike Poland which uses a mix of East and West, though, it is currently opting for both Domestic and Western Standardization.
Now if only we had some M60-200-120S Tanks sitting around. While a four-person Tank, it's roughly same era and theoretically could have its gun swapped for a 125mm or keep the 120mm.
Ukraine: maintains and upgrades thousands of older tanks/armored vehicles for modern combat.
Russia(soviet union 2): builds 10 new tanks but doesn't have the budget or infrastructure for any more and forgets to replace the BTR series.
Well done, thank you
Ukraine could have a more vital well trained & equipped armed forces if past & present leaders were not corrupt
So true, we spend decades to drive them out of politics through the two revolutions.
Couldn't figure out why this video was giving me a familiar feeling until I realized the background music was in HOI4
It will be interesting to see what tanks (along with other military gear) Ukraine takes on in future both during the war and after. More Soviet tanks from NATO countries, Polish PT-91s and second hand Leopards seem like obvious candidates. Ukraine is not going to be in a position to buy new tanks for a while.
I think its also possible that if the conflict ends with Ukraine in a favourable negotiating position it's possible equipment from Russian stocks could get handed over as reperations, since Russia is not going to be in a strong economic position for a while either.
There still is strong possibility Ukraine may built own new tanks, it may be interesting for weapon market due to Ukraine for now is only country with experience of modern fullscale war.
пт-91 і леопард рядом на стоять з такими танками як Т-64БВ/ (2017), Т-64БМ/2, Т-72АМТ, Т-80БВ.
По итогам войны украине запретят иметь армию, а вы уберётесь к чертовой матери за океан
Anyone any thoughts on how they'll structure the mix of incoming western tanks into new formations for a future counter-offensive? Thanks.
It would sound to reason. That they would structure them by similarity. Leopards with Leopards, Abrams with Abrams, tho it also does make sense that they could have them structured like for example Leopards and Abrams in the same unit.
Joke was, this war is the end of Soviet style weapons.
Then why does ukraine use them?
@@epicgamer3614 They are more familiar with them.
@@saturnv2419 most of the world uses soviet style gear from india to eastern russia, china, cuba, morocco as well as iran.
Nato allies such as poland czechia bulgaria slovakia croatia all use soviet style equipment.
Soviet gear will never die. Obsolete sure but people will still use em as they are cheap and easy to use.
Its about the user not the weapon.
@@epicgamer3614 Yes but the majority are used by Russia and Ukraine, India is a mix and China had been actively move away since the 21st century.
@@saturnv2419 still soviet style weapons will never die in any conflict.
Would love to see a brief overview of how the received western tanks are being deployed by Ukraine.
Don't be calling Azov infamous, they are heroes with big balls of steel
nazi balls, you forgot
I'm a civilian, so please forgive a dumb question, but how long would it take the West to train Ukraine's military on modern western tanks?
A couple weeks to learn to use it and a couple weeks or a month to maintain it, approximately speaking.
@@MEYanZav Thank you!
quick and accurate answer: nothing
Highly informative - wonder which of these units is using the M113 carrier ?
@Icezinho_ putin suported ?
@Icezinho_ azov battalion has more beliefs in ultra nationalism then national socialism but united as brothers in europe
Just what are sniper companies, though?
TLDR: there is none XD
Just wondering what the BGM music is at the start of the video
You've missed probably the most capable tank Ukrainians have in significant numbers, that is Polish PT-91's. We had around 280 of them, and all went to fight in Ukraine (well, the number may be a little bit lower if not all were operational). That is on top of all Polish T-72'sM1 and M1R. PT-91 is the most advanced modification of t-72, and it turn out to be quite good tank if you plan to fight russkies...
This video came out before the Poles transferred them to Ukraine lmao
@@BattleOrder Not really, by the end of june those tanks were already in Ukraine...
@@panciopinczera7488 this was not stated by the Polish government until late July.
pt-91 - рівень Т-72АВ 74 року. Пт-91 рядом не стоїть з такими танками як Т-64БВ (2017), Т-64БМ/2, Т-72АМТ, Т-80БВ. Якщо ти не розбираєшся в танках, то просто не сунь носа туди. Лише Т-64БВ в Україні більше 2000 штук, не рахуючи інших.
@@dizlike6147 Well...not really. I mean, it is still based on shitty t-72, but it is still superior to Most post soviet tanks you've mention... It has modern night and thermo vision. It has better fire control. Great ERA, superior to russian kontakt, dont know about ukraine Niz. Modern automatic exstinguisher, you really want that in post soviet tank... and radio, that actually provides you communication:) If we would be fighting world war 2 style battles, I would agree that t-64 is better due to better armor. But its 2022, so night vision and other modern electronics makes a difference...
Engineers: How many T-64 variants do you want? Volodymyr: Yes.. Engineers: How many T-64 variants do you want? Volodymyr: Yes..
someone's been playing too much hoi4 it seems.
What's in the brigade Recon. Company and the battalion Recon. Plt?
company
Up next: Force Structure of the Ukrainian Tractor Brigades
Need to say that battalion in tank brigade should have 31 tank (3 company by 10)+1 and total is 93 tanks per tank brigade. Because somebody could asume falsely that tank brigade could have more than 120 tanks based on 40 tanks per battalion structure
Um... your math is off. 13 x 3 is 39.
@@csec95 tank battalion in tank brigades has different qty comparing to infantry ones. 1 platoon has 3 tanks. 3 platoons + 1 tank of company commander forms a company (10 tanks). 3 companies + 1 tank of battalion commander it is battalion with 31 tanks. 3 battalions gives in total 93 tanks.
So your saying the Ukrainians still use 3 tank platoons in tank brigades? His point is that they did, but then they changed to a universal 4 tank platoon. So, between the 2 of you, I have to ask... source? (No disrespect, just finding out who's correct)
Thanks to Ukrainian soldiers and the Ukrainian people for the fight against Russian fascism of the 21st century. This is a struggle not only for their survival and independent existence, but also for the ideals of democracy in the Western world 🇺🇦
Is that a Pride-Logo for your Channel? Generally curious
Your theme song sounds familiar from conflict desert storm
It is
"Except for Russian separatist T64s captured during the Donbas war, Russia doesn't field this model". Well, now they do.
Well, no.
So Russia also fields the T62 then?
@@TRPilot06YT Probably not. I'd say the T-62s are meant for the LPR/DPR forces.
@@dasbubba841 Its the same way how the russia uses T64s
So called "captured T64s" were a part of propaganda. Most of these literaly hundreds of tanks in 1st and 2nd AK were delivered from Russian storage bases, some amount were captured from Ukraine in occupied Crimea. Of course some were captured in Donbass region during 14-15 battles but it's dozens comparing to total number of hundreds. Not funny thing this is more than total number of tanks in Germany or UK or France or Italy alone.
Ukraine is a proof that Ukraine hasn't made tanks obsolete. It's russian doctrine and use that gave tanks that bizarre impression.
Western Media*
Ukraine is begging for western tanks since the ones they started with plus the Soviet era tanks they got from NATO countries got destroyed.
Meanwhile Russia still has many of their modern tanks and is sending more.
@@captaindak5119The T-62s being employed by Russia say otherwise.
@@The_WhiteSilver Literally videos of Russian T-90s and T-72s being used in recent battles including near Bakhmut.
The Russians are also building more T-90s and modernising more of their older T-72s that were pulled out of storage.
@@captaindak5119 Even so, when a significant portion of your tank force is from the 60s it’s not good
@@captaindak5119 majority of Ukraine's tank force is still standing.
Russia took 4x the losses in terms of tanks
More Ukraine video, please.
that soundtrack reminds me to play games
"Infamous" doesn't really describe the fact that Azov are literally awful, evil Nazis. But at least you called them infamous instead of completely glossing over it I guess....
Yah thing is that would bear more weight if not for the Russians heavy use of neo Nazis in their invasion.
What about the M 84 from Slovenia?
You forgot one little detail. They are burning all the time...
I mean, how can you inherit 50% of the Soviet MIC and just do nothing with it...
Well, imagine you inherit 50% of Boeing industry and park, but have ZERO money and ZERO use for planes.