Wondering if you could do a dedicated video on the history of hearing, since different creatures have different ear bones etc and I'd be curious how things sounded to different creatures and how life's relationship to sound in general has evolved
The bumblebee bat might be the smallest species of mammal when considering body length, but generally the Etruscan shrew is considered to be the smallest extant mammal.
That’s so interesting! And communication is so important for whales, it’s interesting to see how it developed. Our team talked about how communication was key between sperm whales during the whaling period. They were actually able to outsmart the whalers, it’s so mind blowing!
A crude form or echo location can be taught to humans. There are some blind people with a bit of practice who are able to quite accurately describe the shape and distance of large obstacles. It seems to be a very natural way for us to gather information about our surroundings, especially if circumstances force us into situations where optical information is harder to get such as at night or under water. It is not surprising that evolution uses it as a primary sense in different mammals separated by millions of years from their last common ancestor.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 it’s definitely a fascinating subject that would be worthy of a much longer documentary - but these short videos serve as an introduction to a topic that I can do more research on when I have time. This means that, even though I’m nowhere near an expert on all the different subjects this channel has made videos about, at least I’m aware of them, and can look them up as a starting point later. 😄🙏💐🦋
I'm really liking the updated editing style, I can't exactly put my finger on what's different about it but there's definitely something making a positive difference - you're honing in your craft well, keep up the great work!
Thank you so much for this! I've had such a hard time finding info on how whales echolocate, all I ever get is "they make clicks" with no explanation of exactly HOW. This was very informative.
This gives us a timeline but not really an explanation of how these organs evolved. My guess is 1 Whale Ancestor had hearing 2 Hearing became acute in water with increases in bone conduction hearing. 3 Sounds from normal communication used for mate finding, keeping track of offspring and coordination of hunting lead to coarse discernible echoes (even if just water depth) that eventually evolved into sophisticated echolocation.
It would be awesome if you did a video on the evolution of the Woodlouse (rollypolly). They are so common that people dont give them a second thought but they are fascinating creatures. They are crustaceans which is interesting because you don't think of crustaceans as something that you can find under every rock,leaf and log. They even turn bright red like a lobster when cooked lol
How did you know I was thinking about this YESTERDAY?! Specifically it was humpback whale tubercles but that led me into pondering general cetacean senses so, still counts and I'm still delighted!
Hey Moth Light Media, I wanted to make a correction. Only certain bats use their larynx to produce sounds used in echolocation. Many use their facial structures or even their tail membrane. All are different than whales, but very different from one another in the method
Low frequency ecco location might not reflect from small particles in the water. However high frequency might. So low frequency is an advantage in water with lots of particles.
VERY interesting. Good job tagging these gradations within the timeline/geological epochs. Perhaps the common ancestor of the non sperm whales developed echolocation in brackish/fresh conditions of low visibility, then radiated out to marine environments, with further elaboration along with greater visual acuity. That seems the likely prospect, until proven otherwise.
Since it's much easier for someone without refined echolocation ability, like me, to hear an echo on a distance and without disturbance, my guess would be that whales evolved good hearing and the ability to make loud noises to communicate, and then they could hear clear echos at least from a distance. Then it could be exploited and refined from there
Thank you, from my understanding you have painted a pretty accurate picture of taekwondo’s history. It’s frustrating when people do historical videos on taekwondo and claim it to start from karate.
I didn’t know that Squalodonts have living relatives in Asian rivers I have heard that dolphins often use sound to stun prey hence how Simocetus may have hunted for prey on the seabed mainly fish that hide in the sand like flat fish.
bats and whales aint as far apart as you make it seem there in the same order. bats and whales are closer to each other than to elephants or armadillos or sloths etc. But i get your point tho its clearly convergent evolution which just so happened to produced very similar traits.
Given that the Ganges and Indus empty on either side of the Indian subcontinent, have their respective river dolphins evolved completely separately? Or could a river dolphin evolve and then migrate via salt water to another river on the other side of the landmass?
It would be nice if every time you showed an animal on your videos, extinct or extant, you also add the name or species of the animal. You show a lot of different animals but you never name them. It makes learning about them a lot easier.
0:10 Audio track says "whales" and "cetaceans" are equivalent terms, but dolphins and porpoises are also cetaceans. Also the video during those words shows an orca (killer whale) which is a dolphin and NOT a whale.
I watch your every new video within 24 hours of release. I don't want to order merch, but I would use the option that UA-cam has to leave you a tip. I just don't see it enabled here.
i always think its interesting how land animals adapted to sea life. life in the sea seems impossible for most land based animals. i guess they lived on the shores or small swampy islands for such a long time they would spend most of their time hunting in the sea and they would spend more and more time in the water until they were more adapted to life in the sea than on land .and could no longer even live on land. yet unlike fish they still can't breathe underwater .how long would it take for them to evolve gills like fish and be able to breathe under water? i guess it would take over 100 million years at least.
New mlm video, and its about fucking whales, i love whales, this is gonna be sicc. Drop more whale evolution vids and you will have my soul. Cant overstate how excited i am to watch this ngl.
It's curious that the early whales were so long. Presumably their terrestrial ungulate ancestors were not nearly as long, so this would be an adaptation which they developed and then later lost. I can't think of anything that would drive that specific adaptation.
Actually, Whales & Bats are surprisingly closely related with both being part of Laurasiatheria. To put that into prospective that means a Bat is more closely related to a Whale than a Bat is to a Mouse...
The Evolution of Whale Echolocation 0935am 10.12.23 yeah, ok...i will allow the amusing thought of whales with massive ears swimming through the depths bouncing melons off of various objects in the sea....
Watching such videos, it always strikes me that mammals from millions of years ago looked like monsters, and their modern counterparts look just like plastic toy figures. Is there any species of mammal whose long-extinct ancestors looked more friendly, or is evolution like twentieth-century design; it's more towards the simple and functional?
In English there are two systems of pronouncing Latin. In the 16th century when Henry VIII broke from the Catholic Church, it became a literal life and death matter which side of the schism you were on. Scholars had a problem because Latin was associated with Catholicism, so to distance themselves they came up with a different pronunciation system from "church Latin", which became a standard for English speakers and persists to the present. Or at least that's the story I was told.
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 Yea, church/medival latin is the language of the chatolic church. If you want to seperate from it dont say canid say wolflike, dont say herbavore say grasseater. And clearly you dont even know of the most proper latin pronounciation - reconstructed classical latin. The official language of the Roman Empire, the way all its emporors would have spoken including the proto emporors of the late republic like Caesar. (we, modern linguists, are 100% sure his name was Kaisar, not Sīzer)
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Hey, don't shoot the messenger! I'm just telling you how the strange English pronunciation of Latin came about. It's not my idea, I'm not every anglophone, and you don't know how I pronounce Latin.
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 "Hey, don't shoot the messenger!" Im not shooting you. "I'm just telling you how the strange English pronunciation of Latin came about." And Im ranting about how stupid they are. "It's not my idea" Nor have I said it is. "I'm not every anglophone, and you don't know how I pronounce Latin." How do you?
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How to know that its a dinosaur: 1. Lived in mesozoic 2. Is a reptile 3. Lives on land or being semi aquatic Dinosaurs don't live in oceans or fly in the sky Also you need to know that birds are dinosaurs and i told only about mesozoic dinosaurs
Great! But know that evolution doesn't happen "to" do something (i.e., evolution isn't driven toward a direction). However, some adaptations provide an advantage sometimes. Misstating evolution in this way causes confusion and provides ammo for evolution deniers.
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Wondering if you could do a dedicated video on the history of hearing, since different creatures have different ear bones etc and I'd be curious how things sounded to different creatures and how life's relationship to sound in general has evolved
Ear bones are easy. They start with jaw bones. Before jaw-boned fish we (our ancestors) sensed things differently, and still do.
Super underrated channel. A go-to for education and, thanks to his soothing narration, a go-to for bedtime
The bumblebee bat might be the smallest species of mammal when considering body length, but generally the Etruscan shrew is considered to be the smallest extant mammal.
The bat might be the lightest in weight. Depends on how you define 'small', I suppose.
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 The Etruscan shrew is longer but a little lighter than the bumblebee bat.
@@ran.glacialis Interesting. Thanks!
@@b.a.erlebacher1139It's done by mass.
That’s so interesting! And communication is so important for whales, it’s interesting to see how it developed. Our team talked about how communication was key between sperm whales during the whaling period. They were actually able to outsmart the whalers, it’s so mind blowing!
2:15 "as distantly related as they can be while still being mammals" - the monotremes and marsupials would like a word...
The day is good when this dude uploads
A crude form or echo location can be taught to humans. There are some blind people with a bit of practice who are able to quite accurately describe the shape and distance of large obstacles. It seems to be a very natural way for us to gather information about our surroundings, especially if circumstances force us into situations where optical information is harder to get such as at night or under water. It is not surprising that evolution uses it as a primary sense in different mammals separated by millions of years from their last common ancestor.
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What a fascinating video and less than 10 minutes long! I'm sending this to everyone I know!
Thank you very much, Moth Light Media! 🙏🐬🐋🦇🐇
Too short if you ask me.
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 it’s definitely a fascinating subject that would be worthy of a much longer documentary - but these short videos serve as an introduction to a topic that I can do more research on when I have time.
This means that, even though I’m nowhere near an expert on all the different subjects this channel has made videos about, at least I’m aware of them, and can look them up as a starting point later. 😄🙏💐🦋
New Moth Light video! I think you’re the only channel I have notifications on for. Always a fantastic watch!
I'm really liking the updated editing style, I can't exactly put my finger on what's different about it but there's definitely something making a positive difference - you're honing in your craft well, keep up the great work!
I'm addicted to this man's presentation style
Im Studying Biologie since a few months, you are one of the UA-cam Channels that keeps my interest growing in These things, thank You for your work :)
He has such a soothing voice. I watch his videos the first time. Then again when I’m trying to sleep as it send me to sleep
Thank you so much for this! I've had such a hard time finding info on how whales echolocate, all I ever get is "they make clicks" with no explanation of exactly HOW. This was very informative.
Nice to have another mothlight media contribution!
And also nice that it comprises complemntary and related information to recen Ben G Thomas videos!
This gives us a timeline but not really an explanation of how these organs evolved. My guess is
1 Whale Ancestor had hearing
2 Hearing became acute in water with increases in bone conduction hearing.
3 Sounds from normal communication used for mate finding, keeping track of offspring and coordination of hunting lead to coarse discernible echoes (even if just water depth) that eventually evolved into sophisticated echolocation.
Scrolled down to find this comment. The 'how' of evolution is why I click on these videos. Like Dawkins' explanation of eye evolution.
No such thing as evolution- period..💯 whackadoodles🤦♂️✝️
I could be given the Nobel Peace Prize the day a Moth Light Media video comes out, the video would still be the highlight of that day.
It's incredible and fascinating how such vastly different animals as bats and whales could both evolve echolocation separately.
It would be awesome if you did a video on the evolution of the Woodlouse (rollypolly).
They are so common that people dont give them a second thought but they are fascinating creatures. They are crustaceans which is interesting because you don't think of crustaceans as something that you can find under every rock,leaf and log. They even turn bright red like a lobster when cooked lol
Wow, I really learned something today, I would never have imagined that they turned red like a lobster!
How did you know I was thinking about this YESTERDAY?! Specifically it was humpback whale tubercles but that led me into pondering general cetacean senses so, still counts and I'm still delighted!
The graphics you make are amazing! Thank you for creating such high quality content
These videos are always such a huge highlight! Talking about sensory organs, I'd personally love to see a video on the evolution of eyes?
Your videos never fail, you're very well spoken
Hey Moth Light Media, I wanted to make a correction. Only certain bats use their larynx to produce sounds used in echolocation. Many use their facial structures or even their tail membrane. All are different than whales, but very different from one another in the method
Between you and Ben G Thomas’s recent video, it sounds like it’s an Echolocation December!
I absolutely love your narration - you have such a beautiful voice
Moth Light and TierZoo uploads in the same day? Today is gonna be a good day
I love your videos! One learns so much in such a short time. Thanks!
4:06 you mean to tell us... there's an ancient well called KEKenodon
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Ty for the video! Please do one about how eyes evolved!
The research is great, intelligently presented learning experience. Thank you!
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Low frequency ecco location might not reflect from small particles in the water. However high frequency might. So low frequency is an advantage in water with lots of particles.
VERY interesting. Good job tagging these gradations within the timeline/geological epochs. Perhaps the common ancestor of the non sperm whales developed echolocation in brackish/fresh conditions of low visibility, then radiated out to marine environments, with further elaboration along with greater visual acuity. That seems the likely prospect, until proven otherwise.
Since it's much easier for someone without refined echolocation ability, like me, to hear an echo on a distance and without disturbance, my guess would be that whales evolved good hearing and the ability to make loud noises to communicate, and then they could hear clear echos at least from a distance. Then it could be exploited and refined from there
Excellent video! Love to do with whales!
Thank you, from my understanding you have painted a pretty accurate picture of taekwondo’s history. It’s frustrating when people do historical videos on taekwondo and claim it to start from karate.
I didn’t know that Squalodonts have living relatives in Asian rivers I have heard that dolphins often use sound to stun prey hence how Simocetus may have hunted for prey on the seabed mainly fish that hide in the sand like flat fish.
I can't tell you how long I've been waiting for this video
Love your videos!
Whales are a diverse subset of mammalia indeed!
Thr first sentence in this is a simple yet profound statement
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5:44 Could they have fed on fish like rays and flounders? It shouldn't require a bite as strong as one would need to eat hard shelled animals.
How did I not know until now that whales sing and make other sounds out of their blowholes!?
This ability is so OP that I absolutely certain we could send cetacians back to almost any point in history and they would dominate.
That drawing of the ankylorhiza with the outward jutting teeth is more than a little scary, 😯
Ironically, the scarier an animal's teeth are the more likely it exclusively ate fish 😂
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bats and whales aint as far apart as you make it seem there in the same order. bats and whales are closer to each other than to elephants or armadillos or sloths etc. But i get your point tho its clearly convergent evolution which just so happened to produced very similar traits.
1:38 damn that's one good looking whale
nice video, thank you very much!
WHALE EVOLUTION MY BELOVED 💞💞💞💞
A moment of silence for those who still dont believe in evolution by natural selection.
Those US republicans are nuts right? Like what the hell:D
Would the Amazon Pink River Dolphin be placed in the same Indus family?
Oh God, you mentioned whales, you're going to draw David Peters out of hiding!
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Given that the Ganges and Indus empty on either side of the Indian subcontinent, have their respective river dolphins evolved completely separately? Or could a river dolphin evolve and then migrate via salt water to another river on the other side of the landmass?
Barely related to your comment but you did just inadvertently get some brain cogs whirring and remind me that tucuxi exist, so, thanks!
It's an interesting thought. Breathing air might seem like a disadvantage for marine mammals but it makes them more adaptable to salt levels.
They have the same ancestor from Oligocene epoch
Seems like having echolocation would be a vital adaptation to keep big toothed nasties from sneaking up on you. The Meg comes to mind...
whales are so amazing
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I love this video.
Was there a recent discovery on the topic? This is the 2nd echo location video this week.
1:37 gyaaaaahhh
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Now I'm genuinely interested in how bats developed echolocation.
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1:00 so they got heavy melons? Good to know 👍
Basilosaurus is also known as Zygorhiza because the suffix in the previous name from when the giant whale was first discovered is not accurate.
It would be nice if every time you showed an animal on your videos, extinct or extant, you also add the name or species of the animal. You show a lot of different animals but you never name them. It makes learning about them a lot easier.
0:10 Audio track says "whales" and "cetaceans" are equivalent terms, but dolphins and porpoises are also cetaceans. Also the video during those words shows an orca (killer whale) which is a dolphin and NOT a whale.
Dolphins and porpoises are toothed whales.
Who else tried to echolocate something in their room?
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I don't want to order merch, but I would use the option that UA-cam has to leave you a tip. I just don't see it enabled here.
I love the prehistoric whale
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i always think its interesting how land animals adapted to sea life. life in the sea seems impossible for most land based animals. i guess they lived on the shores or small swampy islands for such a long time they would spend most of their time hunting in the sea and they would spend more and more time in the water until they were more adapted to life in the sea than on land .and could no longer even live on land. yet unlike fish they still can't breathe underwater .how long would it take for them to evolve gills like fish and be able to breathe under water? i guess it would take over 100 million years at least.
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New mlm video, and its about fucking whales, i love whales, this is gonna be sicc. Drop more whale evolution vids and you will have my soul. Cant overstate how excited i am to watch this ngl.
It's curious that the early whales were so long. Presumably their terrestrial ungulate ancestors were not nearly as long, so this would be an adaptation which they developed and then later lost. I can't think of anything that would drive that specific adaptation.
Actually, Whales & Bats are surprisingly closely related with both being part of Laurasiatheria. To put that into prospective that means a Bat is more closely related to a Whale than a Bat is to a Mouse...
I see we both watch Clint
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The Evolution of Whale Echolocation 0935am 10.12.23 yeah, ok...i will allow the amusing thought of whales with massive ears swimming through the depths bouncing melons off of various objects in the sea....
Sometimes i wonder how Darwin would react if he saw your videos
He will be very proud
Watching such videos, it always strikes me that mammals from millions of years ago looked like monsters, and their modern counterparts look just like plastic toy figures.
Is there any species of mammal whose long-extinct ancestors looked more friendly, or is evolution like twentieth-century design; it's more towards the simple and functional?
Why do anglophones insist on using latin when they dont even know how to read it, I have a feeling its connected.
In English there are two systems of pronouncing Latin. In the 16th century when Henry VIII broke from the Catholic Church, it became a literal life and death matter which side of the schism you were on. Scholars had a problem because Latin was associated with Catholicism, so to distance themselves they came up with a different pronunciation system from "church Latin", which became a standard for English speakers and persists to the present. Or at least that's the story I was told.
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 Yea, church/medival latin is the language of the chatolic church. If you want to seperate from it dont say canid say wolflike, dont say herbavore say grasseater.
And clearly you dont even know of the most proper latin pronounciation - reconstructed classical latin. The official language of the Roman Empire, the way all its emporors would have spoken including the proto emporors of the late republic like Caesar.
(we, modern linguists, are 100% sure his name was Kaisar, not Sīzer)
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Hey, don't shoot the messenger! I'm just telling you how the strange English pronunciation of Latin came about. It's not my idea, I'm not every anglophone, and you don't know how I pronounce Latin.
@@b.a.erlebacher1139 "Hey, don't shoot the messenger!" Im not shooting you.
"I'm just telling you how the strange English pronunciation of Latin came about." And Im ranting about how stupid they are.
"It's not my idea" Nor have I said it is.
"I'm not every anglophone, and you don't know how I pronounce Latin." How do you?
Why don’t you think about making a suggestion and creating a UA-cam Videos that’s all about the Evolution Of The Pliosaurs in the next month on the next Moth Light Media coming up next?!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍👍👍👍
Sorry baby, I'm watching this without you again
Whale of a tale!
I thought that river dolphins are now extinct
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I wish so many things weren't called "saur" or "don". I keep thinking they are dinosaurs
How to know that its a dinosaur:
1. Lived in mesozoic
2. Is a reptile
3. Lives on land or being semi aquatic
Dinosaurs don't live in oceans or fly in the sky
Also you need to know that birds are dinosaurs and i told only about mesozoic dinosaurs
😊👍
Great! But know that evolution doesn't happen "to" do something (i.e., evolution isn't driven toward a direction). However, some adaptations provide an advantage sometimes. Misstating evolution in this way causes confusion and provides ammo for evolution deniers.
Remnant does not rhyme with revenant 😅
Humans are the most sucessful predetors today. How many species have the wales hunted to extinction?