Evolution of Triceratops (the Ceratopsians)

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  • @lalehiandeity1649
    @lalehiandeity1649 Рік тому +1105

    The Evolution of Grass would be interesting.

  • @yissibiiyte
    @yissibiiyte Рік тому +266

    It's amazing how many times dinosaurs evolved into quadrupeds from bipedal ancestors. Sauropods, ceratopsians, ornithopods, thyreophorans all started out being bipedal.

    • @valivali8104
      @valivali8104 Рік тому +34

      Well, if animal is big and heavy, which big herbivores have to be thanks to bigger and more complex digestive track, they have to be quadrupeds.

    • @GenghisDon1970
      @GenghisDon1970 Рік тому

      and morons of the 22nd century still just call them reptiles even when they MUST know better

    • @Thulgore
      @Thulgore Рік тому +9

      I notice quite a few humans going this round too.........granted the quads they are on are mobility scooters. Well actually I'm the only 45 year old I know that doesn't own a car, never had a drivers license and walks everywhere...............hell I'm the only adult I know that does this without a court order.

    • @AnthonyMorris-pg9xj
      @AnthonyMorris-pg9xj Рік тому +3

      ​@@Thulgorewe are becoming a rare breed 😁

    • @patreekotime4578
      @patreekotime4578 Рік тому +5

      ​@@valivali8104Im not sure that is entirely true. Some research has suggested that Megatherium may have been bipedal. And many Ornithopods seem to have used four legs when feeding but probably still ran on two! The more likely case is that if you are large and your food is on the ground, having a lower body plan makes it easier to reach your food.

  • @Valerio_the_wandering_sprite
    @Valerio_the_wandering_sprite Рік тому +68

    One thing that always amused me of late ceratopsids is how they repeatedly filled in the same niche of modern bovids. Large, stocky horned grass browsers living in herds? Definitely another case of convergent evolution.

    • @MarcoAntonio-hw7si
      @MarcoAntonio-hw7si Рік тому +3

      Herds? Correct me if i'm wrong, but ceratopsids were solitary

    • @stormisuedonym4599
      @stormisuedonym4599 Рік тому

      @@MarcoAntonio-hw7si I don't think I've ever seen convincing evidence they didn't live in herds or at least small groups.

    • @pocketmarcy6990
      @pocketmarcy6990 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MarcoAntonio-hw7sievidence of a Paticular species living in Groups is hard to come by

  • @NitroIndigo
    @NitroIndigo Рік тому +244

    "The largest herbivores in the ecosystem would never be dinosaurs again."
    New Zealand: And I took that personally.

    • @nebulan
      @nebulan Рік тому +59

      I was thinking of the moa, too, and also the elephant birds of Madagascar 😅

    • @ekosubandie2094
      @ekosubandie2094 Рік тому +13

      Don't forget the giant tortoises which are still around today
      They're pretty much the largest non-mammal native herbivores on their respective island ecosystems

    • @ISeeYou.mp4
      @ISeeYou.mp4 Рік тому +31

      @@ekosubandie2094tbf they also arent Dinosaurs

    • @Itsjustme-Justme
      @Itsjustme-Justme Рік тому +3

      non avian dinosaurs

  • @LimeyLassen
    @LimeyLassen Рік тому +57

    It's really shocking when you see how big a Triceratops skull could get in context.

  • @daniell1483
    @daniell1483 Рік тому +65

    Triceratops is probably my second favorite dinosaur. They just look so majestic, and powerful, like a tank on legs. It is interesting to learn that their family was also so successful, and comparing them as herbivores to others goes to show that there are lots of ways to get the job done.

    • @Thulgore
      @Thulgore Рік тому +4

      Beak combined with ever growing teeth. A parrot combined with a rat.......but the rodent ability was in the molars........I hate that I will never know how these animals actually were.

    • @quangminhnguyen6541
      @quangminhnguyen6541 Рік тому +8

      That tank also have ball joint in their neck. They can rotate their full-of-weapons head to extremely wide range.

    • @TillyOrifice
      @TillyOrifice Рік тому

      Plus big spiky horns.

    • @anfunifr3nzy610
      @anfunifr3nzy610 Рік тому

      Pachyrhinosaurus is my favorite, I like the thought of a ramming ceratopsian.

  • @Rise876
    @Rise876 Рік тому +56

    I studied Zoology at uni, years ago, and I've always been interested in absolutely every facet of natural history and life on earth. Your videos are outstanding! They're so well done, so interesting and enjoyable. Great work!

  • @Gaarafan007
    @Gaarafan007 Рік тому +25

    I recently saw a video on Clint's Reptiles where he asked viewers what their favourite dinosaur was. Being obsessed with the creatures when I was younger, I thought the question would be easy, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized I didn't have a proper answer. The best I could to was to say that my favourite ceratopsian dinosaur is Styracosaurus. I'm always happy when the make even the briefest of appearances in video like these.

    • @jasonotto9126
      @jasonotto9126 Рік тому +2

      Knew about them from Dino riders. Them and deinonycus were me favourites as a kid. Still today

  • @Gzeebo
    @Gzeebo Рік тому +10

    Very enjoyable and informative video.
    Fun fact: Chasmosaur is so named because its skull has two huge "chasms" i.e. holes in the frill.

  • @joshuaW5621
    @joshuaW5621 Рік тому +17

    These evolution videos are always so fascinating.

  • @maxicinea
    @maxicinea Рік тому +5

    Oh boy I've been waiting for this one, never clicked so fast

  • @thejdmguru621
    @thejdmguru621 Рік тому +12

    I’d love to see a video on the Evolution of Cycads. It would be interesting to see topics of genuses like Ctenis, Antarcticycas and Dioonopsis just to name a few.

  • @lauravansanten7804
    @lauravansanten7804 Рік тому +3

    Finally, an episode about triceratops! I've been waiting for this one for ages, thank you so much Mothlightmedia!

  • @hughmongus6191
    @hughmongus6191 Рік тому +3

    Your video is the best thing to happen on my Black Friday.

  • @rursus8354
    @rursus8354 Рік тому +22

    First Anaceratops, then Monoceratops, then Diceratops, and then comes Triceratops. Then comes Tetraceratops, Pentaceratops, Hexaceratops and Heptaceratops. Then Octaceratops and Nonaceratops, and finally Styracosaurus. UPDATE: Oh, I forgot Leptoceratops, then Baryceratops, then Microceratops and Macroceratops!

    • @CarmenLC
      @CarmenLC Рік тому

      Onerioceratops when

  • @thebushna
    @thebushna Рік тому +13

    I found this so fascinating. I've seen so much coverage in Paleontology media of creatures that are already famous, but not as much about how they evolved. I learned so much watching this video. Thank you!

  • @vamp97
    @vamp97 Рік тому +2

    Another great video. I can’t believe you give us this kind of relaxing education for free!

  • @strixalu
    @strixalu Рік тому +33

    I just wanted to correct you about that bit you said at 2:12 about all dinosaurs evolving from a therapod dinosaur in the Triassic period- I'm sure you probably meant therapod-like dinosaur but I thought I should clear that up for anyone confused in the comments

  • @maximeestevn5319
    @maximeestevn5319 Рік тому +2

    Babe wake up new moth light media video is up

  • @Sry_4_nothing
    @Sry_4_nothing Рік тому +1

    I really like your Videos, your voice fits perfectly. Its calming and informatif.

  • @lucaskohn5457
    @lucaskohn5457 Рік тому +4

    Would love to see more about the evolution of dinosaurs!!!

  • @Tsotha
    @Tsotha Рік тому +4

    lots of small early ceratopsians, that looked nothing like later giants with horns and frills, I never heard of until now!

  • @theoccidilian4896
    @theoccidilian4896 Рік тому +11

    We can't assume a singular function for structures such as horns. Modern-day horned animals often use horns both for defense and male-male contests. An animal will use whatever weapons it has as need presents.

    • @Thulgore
      @Thulgore Рік тому

      So many things we don't know..........and as yet the sexual dimorphism of ceratopsians doesn't seem so extreme.......which leads to so many more questions about them.

    • @piggymag1c
      @piggymag1c Рік тому

      well why do you think they developed those "weapons" in the first place? You are correct, most likely for a variety of uses, however the horns came from a need for them, not the other way around.

    • @vinny184
      @vinny184 Рік тому +1

      @@piggymag1c that’s an outdated view on evolution having an endpoint. Horns evolved gradually by selecting for individuals with bigger horns. The reason the ones with smaller horns not surviving or at least not reproducing isn’t really known.

    • @SoulDelSol
      @SoulDelSol Рік тому +1

      They're defense was to run away. They're battles for mates were locking horns. I think its safe to compare them to modern ungulates (deer, bovids, antelope). Horns also serve as radiators for cooling

    • @piggymag1c
      @piggymag1c Рік тому

      @@vinny184 i agree evolution never stops and did not say otherwise. and surely bigger is not always better

  • @MatthewTheWanderer
    @MatthewTheWanderer Рік тому +4

    Ceratopsians are some of the coolest dinosaurs! Somehow, I had never heard of the tiny bipedal ones, though!

  • @schrotthandler1648
    @schrotthandler1648 Рік тому +2

    Your videos are the last truly entertaining relaxing dinosaur content

  • @Wolf-Chalk
    @Wolf-Chalk Рік тому +3

    Oh wow, I'm early for once. I never thought about dinosaur evolution beyond birds before so this will be a fascinating watch 👀

  • @gattycroc8073
    @gattycroc8073 Рік тому +9

    fantastic video. Ceratopsians are awesome.

  • @MrHangman56
    @MrHangman56 Рік тому +2

    these videos are so good and always make me sad that we evolved so late and missed out on seeing so many incredible creatures

    • @SoulDelSol
      @SoulDelSol Рік тому +4

      Not really though. We have some of the most amazing creatures ever today. We're just normalized to them, just as we would be to the dinos

  • @Littlekoji-df1cf
    @Littlekoji-df1cf Рік тому +3

    He is back!

  • @ThrowerTimothy
    @ThrowerTimothy Рік тому +6

    The triceratops had a ball and socket joint in its neck!

  • @isaach8289
    @isaach8289 Рік тому

    this video needs more love, great content as always

  • @Alec.40
    @Alec.40 4 місяці тому

    In 2019 I made a UA-cam account to thank you for your videos.

  • @abdulhossain8816
    @abdulhossain8816 Рік тому +4

    Moth Light Media out with more W content.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 Рік тому +2

    Good thing that you pointed out that late ceratopsians did not have quills or feathers, only the ancestors did

  • @WildLand1895
    @WildLand1895 Рік тому +1

    Dude, your content is awesome! I always, always love your videos!
    Question: at 2:30 mark...Ankylosaurs were actually that big? Edmontosaurus is the second largest hadrosaurid known to date, right? I thought Ankylosaurus was a bit shorter, or is that Edmontosaurus is shorter than i thought?

  • @shmuelparzal
    @shmuelparzal Рік тому +3

    Ceratopsids are one of my favourite dinosaur groups, alongside Ankylosaurians and Stegosaurians

  • @TeagueChrystie
    @TeagueChrystie Рік тому +1

    This is fascinating. Great channel. Thanks so much.

  • @jaisanatanrashtra7035
    @jaisanatanrashtra7035 Рік тому +2

    Finally Dinosaurs are back 😊💕
    Hey 👋
    Can you do a video on Birds and Reptiles that lived in Cenozoic Era

  • @gingazaurus
    @gingazaurus Рік тому +1

    Great video thank you for making it, Very interested👌🏻

  • @dozhk
    @dozhk Рік тому +5

    I love your work! Keep it up. Is there any source to those paleomaps you use?

  • @lauropaiva8938
    @lauropaiva8938 Рік тому +5

    Hi from Brazil

  • @supertrike5893
    @supertrike5893 10 місяців тому

    It's great seeing the evolution of my favorite dinosaur

  • @cyankirkpatrick5194
    @cyankirkpatrick5194 Рік тому +2

    I am fascinated by the early north American primate's that died out, they've been finding fossils like crazy and now they're just getting to know them crazy.

  • @MichelZongo-q3r
    @MichelZongo-q3r 2 місяці тому

    Amazing video guy

  • @demos113
    @demos113 Рік тому +4

    Good work. 🙂👍

  • @connorflaherty175
    @connorflaherty175 Рік тому +2

    Eotriceratops is worth mentioning, being the largest ceratopsian dinosaur ever discovered.

  • @sergeipohkerova7211
    @sergeipohkerova7211 Рік тому +9

    When I was a kid I drew Tyrannosaurus jousting with Triceratops and my triceratops was walking on its hind legs. My teacher told me ceratopsians would have never walked on theirhind legs. I can just picture her now if I told her about this video, smugly telling me that hind leg ceratopsians wouldn't be dueling Tyrannosaurus anyway because the era was wrong. Oh well. She's dead now so that kinda sucks. 🤷

  • @WAMTAT
    @WAMTAT Рік тому +1

    Absolutely fascinating

  • @dimosthenistserikis5901
    @dimosthenistserikis5901 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting indeed

  • @SpeedDemon_Editzzz
    @SpeedDemon_Editzzz Рік тому +7

    The Mighty Tri Horns🔥🔥🔥

  • @sauron6977
    @sauron6977 Рік тому

    Love your videos

  • @curiousuranus810
    @curiousuranus810 Рік тому +1

    Moth Light Media - more welcome today than Black Friday.

  • @hyrumhanson3390
    @hyrumhanson3390 Рік тому +2

    I've wondered if any creatures of this family ever filled the niche of a beaver. Big head, powerful bite, stomach of steel. Possible paddle tail derived from elongated feather/scales upon the sides ofthe tail.

  • @victorcelmare
    @victorcelmare Рік тому +10

    Finally one step closer to finding out how they tasted like

  • @Epidombe
    @Epidombe Рік тому +3

    Nice

  • @lloydmckay3241
    @lloydmckay3241 Рік тому

    Life is so marvelous. Beyond quantification.

  • @pocketmarcy6990
    @pocketmarcy6990 9 місяців тому +1

    If only more Dinosaur fossils were as well preserved as Psittacosaurus

  • @nestormentoso
    @nestormentoso Рік тому +5

    damn, i feel an urge to make a joke about Yinshort, the smaller cousin of Yinlong

  • @obibraxton2232
    @obibraxton2232 Рік тому +2

    Please upload more videos more frequently when you can ! Love the content and I’m fascinated so much by prehistoric life be it dinosaur, reptile or mamal 🙌🏾

  • @yfrontsguy
    @yfrontsguy Рік тому

    Brilliant as ever ! Have you ever doing plants too? We need someone as enthusiastic and rigourous as you to tackle plant evolution !!

  • @Kentuckyhunter58
    @Kentuckyhunter58 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @BiTurbo228
    @BiTurbo228 9 місяців тому +1

    Man I utterly adore this channel, but please look up the pronunciation for these animals! It's 'kasmosaurs' not 'shazmosaurs' 👍

  • @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
    @UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Рік тому +3

    I think you mean the vast majority of (very) large herbivorous dinosaurs evolved back into being quadrupedal.
    The smaller ones often stayed bipedal, especially among therapod species who were mostly herbivorous.
    Even some of the big herbivorous dinosaurs like hadrosaurs were facultative bipeds.
    Also, smaller animals tend to have more species and fossilise worse, so I would imagine taking all herbivorous non-avian dinosaurs into account would have them being mostly bipdeal, or at least it being close to 50/50.
    But the large herbivorous non-avian dinosaurs were likely mostly quadrupedal.
    Obviously even more bipedal herbivorous dinosaurs would be counted if you include the birds of the Mesozoic.

    • @isaacbruner65
      @isaacbruner65 Рік тому

      Adding onto this, I know of at least one other group of herbivorous theropods as well, Therizinosaurs, and they were also bipedal.

    • @vinny184
      @vinny184 Рік тому

      It makes sense when you take into account the adaptations needed for being a massive herbivore. Like a big barrel gut, weight distribution etc.

  • @RadicalCaveman
    @RadicalCaveman Рік тому +5

    Thanks very much for doing this video. It means a lot to me personally because my great grandmother was a triceratops.

  • @jaisanatanrashtra7035
    @jaisanatanrashtra7035 Рік тому

    3:55 hey can you tell us how you make these Size Comparison Charts what tool/app you use..???

  • @PhilipMurphy8Extra
    @PhilipMurphy8Extra Рік тому

    This looks like a interesting topic

  • @faolitaruna
    @faolitaruna Рік тому +2

    Check out "Walking With Dinosaurs Remake || Third Chapter : Clash Of Dynasties", it's independent documentary about parallel evolution of Ceratopsians and Tyrannosaurids.

  • @PhilipSalen
    @PhilipSalen Рік тому +3

    One of the illustrations of the triceratops had flowering plants included at 56 second of the video; I do not believe that there were flowering plants at the time of the triceratops; please confirm Moth Light Media.

    • @evilcow666
      @evilcow666 Рік тому +6

      There were flowering plants appeared in the mid cretacous while styracosaurus appeared in the late

    • @tec-jones5445
      @tec-jones5445 Рік тому +6

      Flowering plants, angiosperms, evolved in the early Cretaceous, and became steadily more common through the period. By the late Cretaceous, they were quite diverse and common, comprising about half of all plant species (it would be after the extinction that they would absolutely dominate in diversity though).

    • @theunholyadventurer2376
      @theunholyadventurer2376 Рік тому

      First of all, that isn't a Triceratops, its a Styracosaurus. Secondly, flowering plants evolved early on in the Cretaceous and became very widespread moving on (this is what Moth Light Media said in the video as well). Both Triceratops and Styracosaurus evolved during the Cretaceous, making them co-exist with flowering plants.

  • @Golem33
    @Golem33 Рік тому +1

    I’d love a video covering the evolution of anseriform waterfowl.

  • @BoisegangGaming
    @BoisegangGaming Рік тому +1

    Psittacosaurus is so adorable i want one.

  • @BaldianOfIbelin
    @BaldianOfIbelin Рік тому +2

    There is also a theory that the Pachiselaphoraur had a horn made of keratin just like the Rhinos.

  • @jamesstandsupfallsdown
    @jamesstandsupfallsdown 8 місяців тому

    I would love to see a evolution of stegosaurs and ankylosaurs

  • @caseyriggs6264
    @caseyriggs6264 Рік тому +1

    My fave dinos list:
    1. Carnotaurus
    2. Quetzalcoatlus ("It's a reptile!" I KNOW! :) )
    3. Triceratops

  • @michaelharper8503
    @michaelharper8503 Рік тому +4

    The animal dinosaurs evolved from was "theropod like" but not an actual theropod.

  • @_booth7992
    @_booth7992 Рік тому

    Cheese toastie meat ranking:
    1. Roast beef
    -flavour doesn’t overpower the cheese
    -heats nicely as cheese melts
    -breaks apart with each bite so you don’t have to separate/rip with fingers
    2. Turkey breast
    -slightly bland flavour
    -thicker satisfying chewing experience
    -best protein per gram
    3. Sliced ham
    -most flavourful (outflavours the cheese)
    -Doesn’t break as you bite; meat is pulled from toastie unless you pinch bread together
    -Slightly too cold when bread and cheese are done

  • @vahlte
    @vahlte Рік тому +1

    What's that big "rat" at 03:08?

  • @herp_derpingson
    @herp_derpingson Рік тому +1

    Science of horny dinosaurs. My favorite thing to watch while having morning coffee.

  • @hackusprime
    @hackusprime Рік тому

    probably my favorite Dino..

  • @rustywenzlawe6287
    @rustywenzlawe6287 Рік тому

    Another goddamn banger

  • @danielalexandre89
    @danielalexandre89 Рік тому +1

    Dinosaurs were so dominant and widespread yet now non exist
    Makes you wonder if same can happen to mamals or birds in the future

  • @JustAnotherRandomGuy-_-
    @JustAnotherRandomGuy-_- Рік тому +2

    Judging the evolution of predatory hooved mammals I think there are also predatory ceratopsians as well.

  • @Rangera-ct1xu
    @Rangera-ct1xu 4 місяці тому

    the frill most likely was for muscle attachment. they would have needed these powerful muscles to be able to eat the tough fibrus plants.

  • @heywodjablowme9796
    @heywodjablowme9796 Рік тому

    I would like to see an evolution of bacteria or fungi video similar to the evolution of virus one.

  • @ariesostia126
    @ariesostia126 Рік тому

    Yoooo! I cheered when I saw this title, and autoclicked

  • @b.a.erlebacher1139
    @b.a.erlebacher1139 Рік тому +7

    There was a theory at one time that the frill functioned as an anchor for massive jaw muscles so the animals could eat woody vegetation. The frill would have been mostly internal, encased in skin and muscle. What's the current status of this idea?

    • @anyascelticcreations
      @anyascelticcreations Рік тому +4

      I just wrote an elaborate response to this that somehow got eaten by the algorithm before I was able to hit post. Basically, I agree. And I compared it to our own hyoid bone.

    • @LimeyLassen
      @LimeyLassen Рік тому +4

      The frill doubled the skull's length. That's a little excessive for a muscle attachment.

    • @b.a.erlebacher1139
      @b.a.erlebacher1139 Рік тому +1

      ​@@anyascelticcreationsI'm sorry I didn't get to see your response!

    • @valivali8104
      @valivali8104 Рік тому

      How could they turn their heads, especially nod their head up and down to get food and water?

    • @b.a.erlebacher1139
      @b.a.erlebacher1139 Рік тому +3

      @@valivali8104 I don't know. Perhaps by relaxing the jaw muscles? A dinosaur jaw is organised differently than a mammalian jaw. At any rate, I'm curious about the current status of the theory.

  • @SoulDelSol
    @SoulDelSol Рік тому +1

    They were in large herds which gave them safety in numbers. Occasionally a predator may get one in a hunt. Many times they wouldn't.

  • @michaelharper8503
    @michaelharper8503 Рік тому +2

    There are birds and a few other clades of theropods that were herbivorous.

  • @apnosaurus
    @apnosaurus Рік тому

    wait wasn't kulinda a basal ceratopsian? or was it a basal marginocephalian? the one that was covered in feathers.

    • @bonniemob65
      @bonniemob65 11 днів тому

      _Kulindadromeus_ has typically been considered a non-cerapod neornithischian, meaning it would've branched off before the last common ancestor of marginocephalians and ornithopods lived. However, a recent study into _Jeholosaurus_ and the ornithopod family tree reclassified _Kulindadromeus_ as a basal ornithopod.

  • @lastEvergreen
    @lastEvergreen Рік тому

    7:58:
    Me: “Over time the centrasaurs actually evolved to reduce or lose their brow horns.”

  • @alskdjfhgqzwez6723
    @alskdjfhgqzwez6723 Рік тому +1

    Does anyone know where can i contact this guy? I have a question for him about his video on the large flightless birds. If anyone else is an expert on the subject, please let me know

  • @deez1954
    @deez1954 Рік тому +3

    *babe wake up‚mothlight media just dropped.*

  • @UniversalChallenge4454
    @UniversalChallenge4454 Рік тому +2

    you favourite dinosaur as a kid

  • @dleddy14
    @dleddy14 Рік тому

    What is clade of animals with most it's species alive today that would be comparable in species size (estimated) to the Dinosauria clade during the lade Cretaceous?

  • @pattonramming1988
    @pattonramming1988 Рік тому +1

    So have any ceratopsians been discovered outside of Asia or North America

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 Рік тому +2

      Ceratopsians fossil completely abscent in gondwana

  • @stupidmangoz
    @stupidmangoz Рік тому

    Let's goooo!

  • @jorgerangel2390
    @jorgerangel2390 Рік тому

    stegosaurus next dude!!!

  • @derf2170
    @derf2170 Рік тому

    The Y is silent and the O is a long O sound in Yinlong

  • @sebastianthomsen2225
    @sebastianthomsen2225 Рік тому +1

    i see a MLM vid i click! :) 👍

    • @AgroAcro
      @AgroAcro Рік тому

      ?

    • @galacsinhajto
      @galacsinhajto Рік тому +1

      ​@@AgroAcroMoth Light Media

    • @AgroAcro
      @AgroAcro Рік тому +1

      @@galacsinhajto Ohh. I was wondering what this video has to do with pyramid schemes. That makes sense.

    • @ariesostia126
      @ariesostia126 Рік тому

      Well, if we all click the like, UA-cam algorithm will show the video to more people, and then they will click the like, making moth flight media reviews and money in a pyramid of likes

  • @girlbuu9403
    @girlbuu9403 Рік тому

    I think saying 'putting them all in the same group is misleading' is a tremendous understatement. It is fine to some degree, but grouping this cat sized bipeds with elephant sized quadrupeds would be like grouping humans with squirrels. Even if we are closer related to rodents than we are to cats or whales. Maybe as a clade, or something between the class mammalia and the order primate/rodent, but anything beyond that is such a stretch.

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Рік тому +1

    7:20 not a fan of the use of the words “more primitive species” because if you were a sentient ceratopsian watching this youtube video on the infinite internet from the year 2312 i’d say under a certain point of view humans are the primitive species compared to mice