This is the best free flight video I have seen, captures it perfectly. I bought this kit about 50 years ago and built a beautiful model. Unfortunately it didn’t survive the first winding up of the motor, so I really liked seeing this one fly so well.
Thanks to all for the nice comments. I pass them on to Dave for him to see. We are waiting for Covid lockdown to end so we can go out flying the stock of models we built up during the last year. I've been on lockdown for a year now, so it can't come soon enough. I've done some oil painting and am currently compiling a book of Scottish Highand Landscape photos.. You have to stay positive!
There's a man who knows how to enjoy himself. Nothing more satisfying than seeing your hand-built model actually doing it's stuff. As a kid, I loved it and have just started again. You are lucky to have a decent field not built on by some house building company. I am wondering what the round tank is in some of the shots. Looks ominously like the sort of tank they have on sewage works. Wouldn't be a good place to land.
Hi This is just a local farmer's field and funny you should talk about the tank... The day ended with the Model inside a United Utilities compound on top of the tank. Dave went back later and met a man who retrieved the model for him. So no models were hurt during this outing! Thanks for the interest.
What a great field! You really have the ship well trimmed, too. I use a repurposed hand drill also. Seems more in keeping with the spirit. Thanks for posting.
Nostalgia is a great thing! I'm waiting to come out of "lockdown" to fly my KK Competitor and other scale models, plus my new "quido" RC glider! Thanks to all for the interest. It's great to hear how much pleasure the videos are bringing.
Beautiful. Don't know which prop you're using, but I wish I could carve a large, balsa, slow prop. I got a Senator kit and the weird thing is I have to mount wings about 2inches off center (to left I think), to get balanced circular flights. Otherwise I get death spirals to the ground. Happy flying!
Have you seen the good You Tube by Josh Finn on easy prop carving? ua-cam.com/video/RdRyDclOtuQ/v-deo.html Don't want to teach my granny to suck eggs if you are experienced and know what you are doing.. Sounds like you have something seriously wrong with either side thrust or warps/twist in wing/tail/fin. The Senator is a docile model if built to plan and shouldn't need any wing offset. I trim my model to fly right with no rudder and 1/16" right side and downthrust. Start with very low turns and concentrate on a nice consistent turning circle using 1/32" packing under the trailing edge of the tail, increasing until it is a nice flat circuit. If you can't get that, it might mean that you have side thrust in one direction fighting a wing warp in the other. Check that your fuselage is straight. If the CG is too far back, it can make a model very unstable. Check on the plan Just some guesses without seeing the model
gracias. Estoy haciendo un You Tube sobre mi propio senador que mostraré tan pronto como pueda obtener un video de vuelo. I hope this translation makes sense!
I fly a 200% scaled up Senator on a little outrunner motor and mini RC ( Rudder only ) . I think it actually flies slower than your rubber powered one .
Sounds great! The rubber weighs quite a lot in a Senator and the aim is to get it to climb fairly quickly to pick up some lift. So wing loading may well be higher in the original version than yours. You also have the advantage of less drag from the much smaller prop. I use a thinner rubber motor in mine which gives a longer, slower climb. Comes from having a mainly indoor duration background! Still not sorted a DT system which I like. The damper works fine , easily up to 4 mins or so, but don't like chopping into the original design which would give a tip up tail. Tip up wing too complicated and I operate the KISS (keep it simple) approach. Less to go wrong.
Hi Josh, After 20 years of flying indoor duration including F1D, the idea of any motor larger than one loop of 1/4" takes some adjustment. I flew 16 strand motors in open rubber in the 1950s/60s. Seems a long time ago! Thanks for all your work on the web encouraging new fliers. I have taken ways of doing things from your tube videos. I esp. like the freewheeling mechanism which I have put on my KK Competitor to save my hands! Your giant F1D is a work of art!
@@tomtflyer9127 for some reason I hadn't realized you were in the F1D crowd. Egg on my face! Yeah the power levels for outdoor models are a big eye opener. It takes a lot of getting used to the idea of that much raw power, but the again back when F1D was 1g and 65cm, they were flying 1.4g motors! At this point though I'm just glad to see anyone flying out there. The hobby has taken some big hits and we've got a long road to recovery
Hi Jay, That would miss the point! The whole thing is about replaying our flying in the 1950's and 60's (1958 in my case). A hand drill was THE essential item (Lithium batteries not invented yet!) and hearing the gears crank is like smelling something which brings back nice memories. You also don't get to "feel" the motor unless hand winding! Just in case you think we are a bit senile, out of date and in need of mentoring, I have to say that you don't get much more skill and efficiency concious than when building and flying indoor F1D class in serious competition. Have a go at building a 30" long model down to 1.4gr including an 18" dia variable pitch prop if you really want a challenge!
What more can you ask for long grass and no wind ! Perfect.
This is the best free flight video I have seen, captures it perfectly. I bought this kit about 50 years ago and built a beautiful model. Unfortunately it didn’t survive the first winding up of the motor, so I really liked seeing this one fly so well.
Thanks to all for the nice comments. I pass them on to Dave for him to see. We are waiting for Covid lockdown to end so we can go out flying the stock of models we built up during the last year.
I've been on lockdown for a year now, so it can't come soon enough. I've done some oil painting and am currently compiling a book of Scottish Highand Landscape photos.. You have to stay positive!
There's a man who knows how to enjoy himself.
Nothing more satisfying than seeing your hand-built model actually doing it's stuff.
As a kid, I loved it and have just started again.
You are lucky to have a decent field not built on by some house building company.
I am wondering what the round tank is in some of the shots. Looks ominously like the sort of tank they have on sewage works.
Wouldn't be a good place to land.
Hi
This is just a local farmer's field and funny you should talk about the tank... The day ended with the Model inside a United Utilities compound on top of the tank. Dave went back later and met a man who retrieved the model for him. So no models were hurt during this outing! Thanks for the interest.
What a great field! You really have the ship well trimmed, too. I use a repurposed hand drill also. Seems more in keeping with the spirit.
Thanks for posting.
Nostalgia is a great thing! I'm waiting to come out of "lockdown" to fly my KK Competitor and other scale models, plus my new "quido" RC glider!
Thanks to all for the interest. It's great to hear how much pleasure the videos are bringing.
A perfect evening. You might need a wing dt on the Senator if you put a few more turns on, or even if you don’t 😀 Lovely flying field.
Dave has a tip up tail DT and is rebuilding another Senator. We are lookiing forward to flying my KK Competitor with it when Covid allows.
A suggestion for your drill winder. Take the chuck off and drill a hole to put the the wire through. That way it doesn’t slip and demolish the fus.😀
Good work
Beautiful, Tom!
Beautiful. Don't know which prop you're using, but I wish I could carve a large, balsa, slow prop.
I got a Senator kit and the weird thing is I have to mount wings about 2inches off center (to left I think), to get balanced circular flights. Otherwise I get death spirals to the ground.
Happy flying!
Have you seen the good You Tube by Josh Finn on easy prop carving? ua-cam.com/video/RdRyDclOtuQ/v-deo.html
Don't want to teach my granny to suck eggs if you are experienced and know what you are doing.. Sounds like you have something seriously wrong with either side thrust or warps/twist in wing/tail/fin. The Senator is a docile model if built to plan and shouldn't need any wing offset. I trim my model to fly right with no rudder and 1/16" right side and downthrust. Start with very low turns and concentrate on a nice consistent turning circle using 1/32" packing under the trailing edge of the tail, increasing until it is a nice flat circuit. If you can't get that, it might mean that you have side thrust in one direction fighting a wing warp in the other. Check that your fuselage is straight. If the CG is too far back, it can make a model very unstable. Check on the plan Just some guesses without seeing the model
Beautiful 👍🏻
Beautiful nice work
This is very nice. In a good way.
que lindo vuela ese Senator!!!!
gracias. Estoy haciendo un You Tube sobre mi propio senador que mostraré tan pronto como pueda obtener un video de vuelo. I hope this translation makes sense!
@@tomtflyer9127 si, tiene sentido, gracias!!
I fly a 200% scaled up Senator on a little outrunner motor and mini RC ( Rudder only ) . I think it actually flies slower than your rubber powered one .
Sounds great! The rubber weighs quite a lot in a Senator and the aim is to get it to climb fairly quickly to pick up some lift. So wing loading may well be higher in the original version than yours. You also have the advantage of less drag from the much smaller prop. I use a thinner rubber motor in mine which gives a longer, slower climb. Comes from having a mainly indoor duration background! Still not sorted a DT system which I like. The damper works fine , easily up to 4 mins or so, but don't like chopping into the original design which would give a tip up tail. Tip up wing too complicated and I operate the KISS (keep it simple) approach. Less to go wrong.
Add a wing DT, and 4 more strands of rubber. You'll have a really strong flier. My wife flies on 16 strands and hers gets 300-400' up.
Hi Josh, After 20 years of flying indoor duration including F1D, the idea of any motor larger than one loop of 1/4" takes some adjustment. I flew 16 strand motors in open rubber in the 1950s/60s. Seems a long time ago! Thanks for all your work on the web encouraging new fliers. I have taken ways of doing things from your tube videos. I esp. like the freewheeling mechanism which I have put on my KK Competitor to save my hands! Your giant F1D is a work of art!
@@tomtflyer9127 for some reason I hadn't realized you were in the F1D crowd. Egg on my face! Yeah the power levels for outdoor models are a big eye opener. It takes a lot of getting used to the idea of that much raw power, but the again back when F1D was 1g and 65cm, they were flying 1.4g motors! At this point though I'm just glad to see anyone flying out there. The hobby has taken some big hits and we've got a long road to recovery
Buy a cordless drill
Hi Jay,
That would miss the point! The whole thing is about replaying our flying in the 1950's and 60's (1958 in my case). A hand drill was THE essential item (Lithium batteries not invented yet!) and hearing the gears crank is like smelling something which brings back nice memories. You also don't get to "feel" the motor unless hand winding! Just in case you think we are a bit senile, out of date and in need of mentoring, I have to say that you don't get much more skill and efficiency concious than when building and flying indoor F1D class in serious competition. Have a go at building a 30" long model down to 1.4gr including an 18" dia variable pitch prop if you really want a challenge!
You don’t have to buy one…. I don’t mind.