Engineers. I am one, with a Bachelor's degree and 30+ years to show for it. But ... one of my favorite quotes is "In theory, theory and practice should produce exactly the same results; in practice, this is only very rarely so."
Long-time AvE subscriber, who just stumbled onto your channel yesterday (sliding miter saw comparison vid). I've got to admit, I think Uncle Bumblefuck missed the mark on this as well. He did praise much about the Hurcules, but seemed pretty stuck on the two brush setup making it junk, completely disregarding the motor being a much more efficient setup (like the Hilti). Kudos! Subscribed!
I am a huge fan of AvE, and I am really happy to hear that you don't want to start any drama or a war of something small like this but it was a great experience to get both sides, of the argument I'm going to start watching more of your videos.
To everyone who thinks I'm shilling for HF and that I just say that their tools are the best, I would like you to explain why, in my top drill driver list, I rated 5 other brands over the Herc and the Bauer didn't even make my top 10 list. In fact, neither did the Kobalt or Tacklife, both of which have set me free tools before? Also, why did I show my method, my tools used and then actually ASK OTHER PEOPLE TO REPEAT THIS EXPERIMENT TO PROVE ME WRONG??? Show me another reviewer who does this? HF does not pay me, they have sent me tools for review. This is standard in the product review industry. And unless that would be enough for you to sell out your ethics then shut the hell up. The second you say that sort of crap all you are doing is screaming "I'm a fanboy for the product you just dissed". Grow up.
One year ago. And I do not know if anything was changed. I can tell you that none of the parts that he said were a concern are different on the equipment I tested from what he showed in his video. My clamshell did not have the fitment issues his did. I have three Herc tools and none of them show that issue. Not sure if they fixed the problem or if he just got a bad one.
@@Cheddah45 so he's not allowed to say someone else is wrong and explain why? This is "Red is a shill" is an attempt to stir up drama. It's like the Scotty Kilmer talking about Chris Fix being wrong about something and people blow up it more than it is incident. Also, people have been paying big store prices for name brand stuff. People don't like it when a smaller store that historically sells cheaper stuff comes along and makes a better product. It upends their world view. Another reason why brand loyalty can be poisonous.
I'm an engineer. I find both your channel and AvE's endlessly entertaining. You've got an opinion. AvE has one. I'll bet both of you will say the same thing about opinions... everybody's got one. Your comparison between these two drills is pretty clear. I don't see any sign that you're shilling for HF. Please keep on keepin' on, Mr. Bear.
I love what your channel has become Red. You really take things to the next level with good explanations, testing and honest reviews. I don’t see you favoring any one brand, but fairly testing several brands and letting the viewers decide for themselves.
I've owned both a Hercules and Dewalt, what I found was that the Hercules did better when new, the Dewalt batteries got better with time for a period, then over the course of two years started to get weaker. The Hercules took longer for the Li-Ion batteried to optimize but they were stronger when they did. The problem I found was that while the Dewalt batteries did die off after 2 years, they were still somewhat usable. The Hercules batteries died off all at once. They were good one day, crap the next. I also didn't feel that I got as much life out of the Hercules batteries per charge doing light tasks, like driving screws and other somewhat low load tasks. The Dewalt was much better at that sort of thing, while the Hercules was better at all out high torque work. I think it had something to do with the Hercules being able to get more power from its battery under demand. Both of mine had a few durability tests, both had been dropped several times, the Dewalt took a fall from about 10ft, it landed on the front bottom of the battery. The battery cracked, but still worked and the drill was unharmed. The Hercules fell of the top of my truck's side box to the pavement, it landed pretty much the same way and the battery split apart, and the case of the drill broke above the battery where it flexed the most. I melted it back together and reinforced it with some epoxy inside and its been fine but the battery is relying on duct tape to stay together these days. The chuck on the HF has held up better, the chuck on the Dewalt is almost frozen and is hard to tighten and loosen already. My biggest gripe with the Dewalt is that the batteries are shot and they cost too much to be worth replacing. I get the impression that the cost of their batteries is part of a planned obsolescence built into their whole game. The HF battery needed to be replaced too but I could have gotten a pair of them for less than the cost of one Dewalt battery, (I'm not even taking into consideration that the Dewalt came with two batteries and the HF only one). I think Dewalt took more into consideration when they made the case out of the more flexible plastic, while its softer or more flexible, it is more durable if it takes a big fall, but alot of that has to do with how and where it falls. These both have issues, they both have some good points, the real test will be how well they hold up over time and if HF continues to support these first models say four or five years from now. I do feel that Dewalt has gone downhill in quality since the days of their first yellow tools back in the late 80's when they were still called B&D Professional. I still have various older Dewalt and B&D tools that still work fine and parts and batteries can still be had. I somehow doubt that we will be able to buy replacement batteries for these HF drills in say 30 or so years.
I agree. The Chicago electric and even the Bauer were junk. They've always crapped out on me pretty quick. All my cordless tools now are Chicago pneumatic (5+ years now nearly everyday use and going strong.) but when they crap out think I'm gonna switch to Hercules.
Christ almighty. None of these components hold up to everyday use. Saying they do is a hilarious joke. Sure maybe if youre a diy warrior theyll do. But god if I could only count the new guys bringing in their hft tools on the job... wow does that change so damn quick and for such a legit reason. They just dont do it pal. They dont. Absolutely none of them. Your 5 years is my 5 months. Theyre shit, theyre toast by that time. Buy a proper tool if youre in a trade. Such a fuckin joke these hft tools. God even dudes “upgrading” to ryobi even were vastly reaping the benefits
@@phenomiclord261 I am not a contractor but a constant DIY type and have both Bauer and Metabo HPT tools, never had a issue with any Bauer tools except for a couple that eat batteries but they are not brushless so that is expected to some extent. Granted your comment is 2 years old so maybe they were junk back then? my oldest Bauer tool is just over eighteen months old, but with heavy use and no issues, I even dropped one from about 7 feet onto concrete, just a scuff and worked fine. Are Bauer the same quality as Makita, Milwaukee Fuel or even Ridgid Octane no they are not but they are not meant to be, they are designed to compete with Riyobi, Hart etc and at that they do fairly well I would say better quality than Hart and about the same as Riyobi at a better price for the system generally.
Bear guy: *PLEASE* get word to Hercules management/marketing. Put together a complete package. 1/2" drill or (better) hammer drill + Cir Saw + Recip saw + Jig Saw + 2 batteries (1- 2.5ah,1-5ah) + charger (leave out the light). No BS, no fluff, just man-get-it-done tool set. IMHO if they did this set with a 'super coupon' they'd set records.
a Harbour freight rep once told me they chose to do the tools ala carte in order to be able to price them as low as they could. Usually Milwakee Dewalt, etc will sell a "Kit" at a loss to them to pull you into the eco system so you can then buy their more expensive tools so you can use the batteries you already have with them.
That's common industry marketing for cordless lines. Once they have some pieces in a kit it's an easy next step to buy more now you've got some batteries and charger. If they aren't junk people will by other tools in the line. That's how I got all the Ryobi stuff.
I retired as an industrial engineer charged with avionics support, from Boeing, some 20 years ago, after an 18-year stint with them. Most of my time, was spent at, or with the vendors who manufactured the various systems and/or devices. With that said, just about every custom component was tested using a process which began with "the design of experiments" phase; an optical comparator analysis, before, during, after, and 'again after' comparator analysis phase. The numbers for all of the sub-assemblies, and their components were compared, and if within expected norms, the go-ahead was given for a trial production run, during which a butt-load of documentation, including "acceptable build procedures which avoid tribal knowledge, at any cost", were also implemented, tested again, and approved (if worthy). While NOT defending AvE, and I really do agree with your teardown concept, and operation, prior to the inception of the trial analysis, AvE, does do a "sub assembly + electronic/electrical durability analysis, which appears to be effective, and fairly thorough', given the fact that his "can isn't planted somewhere within a million-dollar analytical laboratory'. Does there need to be a 'before, and after analysis??, you bet!, but my guess is, that economics, and the ability to gain a fairly acceptable analytical result is his goal. Yours, is a 'functional analysis' which yields an "at this moment analytical result"; and that has merit. Very often, AvE's analyses attempt to determine "the longevity quotient", through "semi-destructive testing". That, too, has merit. Combine both, and receive a pretty good prognostication of how long it will remain on the shop wall, and its most probable effective usage.
I totally agree with you and as I said he is usually accurate, or at least accurate enough. But in this video, he drops the ball repeatedly. Calls Samsung cells generics. Complains about high-end MOSFETs without doing research on them (many people have called him out on this). Says that a Chinese made tool is using an overseas switch. Really? What does the Dewalt use? In fact, they are using an even lesser brand, also overseas switch. His comment on brushes is incorrect. You don't put on 4 brushes unless your motor design needs 4. It's work around design as adding more switches to push more current is a cost saving over a measure. It allows to you use cheaper parts on the motor and to brute force power at the cost of efficiency. As my testing showed pretty clearly. I was the COO for a tech firm in Silicon Valley for the last 20 years and oversaw product development on both the software and hardware sides so I'm very familiar with product testing and evaluation. I'm sorry but when an engineer tells me "Oh that doesn't work" when I know other people are making it work I say "Fine, show me why". AvE does not do the way, he just states a fact and the problem comes about when he can't admit that he isn't as savvy in a field as he thinks he is. He showed a significant lack of knowledge when it came to the magnets and yoke design. Sadly that if a fairly typical affliction in these fields. Alph Tech syndrome. When someone can't admit what they don't know.
+Red Beard and The Den of Tools, many thanks for your reply. As an admitted "Analog Dinosaur, in a digital era", I've been nothing but impressed with the 'flood of change, with regard to everything electro-mechanical, brought on by rare earth magnetics. Small world declaration, I worked within the US Route 202 Aerospace Corridor; declared "The Silicon Valley of the East", during Reagan's 1984 visit. I'm old enough to have been part of the drive towards Surface Mount Technology, and scarily remember the country's "scared s**tless" reaction to Jason Robards' "The Day After"; we immediately started to care about H.I.R.F., and recall the animosity of those who built backplane assemblies, after being nicknamed "The Ferrite Fools". Finally, I can sympathize with your analysis of the makeup of the engineering mind. I've seen some doozies! Software engineers, many of whom were independent contractors, seldom stayed with a project more than six months. MCDU's alone, contained 'super massive amounts of code'; and the verification seemed to never end. My daughter, at age three, while visiting my cubicle (on the way to a pediatrician's appointment, with the 'then' wife), literally made an a** out of Boeing's then big cheese, Phil Condit, who made the mistake of communicating in small-talk niceties, by asking her if she liked my office. Her reply, "it's okay, and you, sir"??? His reply, oh, it's wonderful here. She concluded by stating "you must be lying, because nobody likes it here". Point/counterpoint, TKO, the winner, my 3 year old. Mr. Condit asked if she was available to travel to their Emirates negotiations. The next day, a courier delivered a DHL "Immediate Service" envelope, addressed to her, containing a $500.00 Toys-R-us gift card, and a PA-529 $2,000 Educational Savings Deposit confirmation. She also received an 'employee of significance' award. A steadfast principle at Boeing, "only keep software engineers until they drool", was deeply ensconced within truth. I admire the interactions which you have with your family, for that is the true meaning of life.
AMStationEngineer, aVE's video was also posted a year ago and I bet that good ole HF was watching and made changes to that product in that time. You are exactly right everyone has their own opinion on what is quality in their opinion.
gregred78 this is a fact! That’s the best part of harbor freight you never know what your going to get.. it’s always different.. I say we quit giving this shill any more comments.
"I can probably snap the Dewalt chuck with my hands." Well of course you could, your a bear! ;-p Brian over at Work Shop Addict told me that he owns different tool brands because no one tool company makes the best of everything.
I standardized on a tool brand not because they were the best but because I wanted interchangeable batteries. I can't stand having a bunch of incompatible batteries or tools where I can't get a new battery because the tool company just arbitrarily designed something different, for no good reason. I dumped DeWalt because they kept changing the battery platform. Screw those guys.
"These are new, very expensive, compared to the MOSFETs used in the DW. They are extremely low heat by comparison and are being used EXACTLY as they are designed to be used. " Do you have their datasheets? Also one note about the test - I'd like to see the current during the test. During full load I'd expect the MOSFETs not to switch on/off, so the only heat is I*I*Rdson. If the current is not high enough (low torque of the pump) - they will be able to dissipate the heat. High torque would require more current and hence more heat dissipation required. On top of that battery cells might be more effective at lower current, instead of being able to delivery higher max. currents. Don't get me wrong Samsung cells are fine but the test is far from conclusive in my opinion.
I love AVE's videos and have been a subscriber for years. I have noticed that he does have his biases and sometimes presents things in such a way to fit the flavor of whatever videos he is making. Perhaps that's just human nature. He is still very informative and most important of all - great for a laugh. I appreciate his channel and I appreciate yours.
He has this weird fetish about expensive tools. One time I saw him reviewing something, I think snapon, and he was basically coming to the conclusion that it wasn't much better than the competition, which was obviously far cheaper. But despite that, he kept harping on about how he could pass the sanpon tools down to his kids. Legacy brand or something. Now, what would your kid rather have? $1000 and some Pittsburgh pro wrenches or some snapon wrenches?
@@eizzle78 - I recently sold my 25 year old SnapOn tools and got enough money to replace ALL of them with PittsburghPro from Harbor Freight AND had enough money left over to buy a brand new desktop computer. Even used SnapOn tools fetch a "pretty penny" but if you buy them new, they are (in my view) insanely over priced for what you get. It is a mistake I made when I was young (and dumb) but I would tell anyone looking to buy tools that their money would be better invested elsewhere.
I am the DeWalt fan, but the DeWalt drill you tested was the low end one. I wouldn't recommend that dill to anyone it's not a good drill and the chuck is junk. The one AVE tested is the XPR model.
@Jack Morris Like I said he has tested both. The XPR is the one I recommend. This one m.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-2-in-20-volt-Max-Variable-Speed-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Battery-Not-Included/3962543?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-ToolsAndHardware-_-CordlessDrillsAndComboKits-_-3962543:DEWALT&CAWELAID=&kpid=3962543&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=1940&k_clickID=go_625706834_34613748430_111132557110_aud-299487635250:pla-259591911570_m_9002739&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz6TCpK393gIVlZJbCh0vNwk4EAQYBCABEgKgKvD_BwE
@Jack Morris That one is also good. Just a bit more spendy because it has a brushless motor. Basically you want to stick to there pro grade (XPR/XR) stuff. Dewalt has for a long time made consumer grade drills that are no better then any of the other cheap drills you can buy. Only reason to buy them over another brand is being Dewalt they have a more common battery.
It's just like razors and printers. In fact the crappy DW batteries had me thinking of those printers you get that only have like 10% of the normal ink in them.
@@denoftools Replacement cartridges for printers are a huge scam. When your new printer runs out of ink, the replacement cartridges cost more than the printer did when it was new. It's cheaper to throw away the printer when the "starter cartridges" run out of ink, and just buy a new printer. I have never seen any company say...........buy our ink cartridges and we will give you a free printer.
AvE is an interesting fellow and his channel is very entertaining. You have a great channel and I appreciate your opinions and reviews. Most People either love or hate hf, you keep it real, calling out the junk and letting us know about the good stuff.
Always remember, it was an engineer put that one bolt in an area that you cant get to. It was also an engineer that designed the Mooney that lost its tail. It was also an engineer that said the o-rings on the space shuttle were good to go. Just because someone says " I am an engineer", does not mean they know squat.
Oh, buy the way, the engineers who designed the O rings told those in charge NOT to launch when it was cold. Many attempted to delay that launch. Bean counters at the top overroad their protests. I know some of those guys, their opinions lay the blame on the BEAN counters (upper management) for the design and decisions.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I am an older guy that has many physical problems, and can not work like I used to. Because of this I buy lesser power tools than I used to. What do I need a drill/driver that lasts all day on one charge when I only last an hour and then need a nap. Do I want the the best tool made; you bet, but I can’t afore it on a fixed income and really don’t need it. (Like need has much to do with it) after a bit of research the Hercules seemed like it might be like the professional Black and Decker line I bought years ago right before they purchased the Dewalt name as I read about it in triad mags. I have some tools that took the same parts, but are dark gray and say “Black and Decker Professional”, and friends would laugh at me for spending half the price that they spent for yellow paint. I was a bit put off the Hercules brand after watching the video you talk about. I thought the fella doing the video had a lot more knowledge than I, and I have learned that kind on bragging and his fowl mouth usually denotes someone not to be trusted. I should have trusted my hunches, but after your excellent video taking the tool apart and explaining things not just making some snide comments, I believe I will be in the market for that drill driver the next trip to HF. Thanks again, and thanks for keeping your channel clean and entertaining.
I did see them and if they drop the price just a little by May it will be a birthday present for my sister and brother in law, both in May. That will keep them from borrowing my 20v. And fit my sister’s hand.
LOVE IT! Thanks for starting my day off right! I've watched AvE. I'm no prude, however, his language gets old. I used to talk like him. Kudos to you for being a stand up bear!
Hey Red, I like you and AvE. That said I've been a fan of HF for over a decade now. 'bout 10+ years ago I notice that HF was making some pretty great air tools (die grinders, nailers, etc.._) and once a month I'd spend $40 to $100 on tools there, the price was unbeatable and the quality was going up. I also started buying the impact sockets and air tool impact drivers along with torque wrench and all size and drive size socket tools. You cannot beat them. I will never spend big bucks on hand tools as long as HF is around. Love me HF. Keep up the great videos Bear!
I feel that with the Hercules that the biggest problem one may come across is more so with the battery than the drill. Companies put more time and energy and money into the design and build of the drill and the battery being an afterthought. As batteries age they get weaker with time and you don't want to be throwing a butt ton of money having to replace batteries. It's nice to see you got the kid involved kids nowadays need to have interest Beyond computers and videogames learn to work with their hands. Also you don't have the HF security screwdriver bit set?
Honestly, I feel the batteries are the least of your worries. Samsung cells, good frames and spot welds, and that heatsink! And the price for these batteries is the best you are going to find. Did you see my other video? Per mAh, no one sells their batteries cheaper than the Herc brand and most of those are not using the Samsung cells. BTW, I do quite a bit with that sort of battery and the Samsung is the top rated brand to buy, no question about it.
Those Samsung cells are the best in the business... And the construction of the battery is top notch, therefore if the battery is going to be the the thing that fails in the Hercules, sounds like the Hercules is a winner to me!
I love my Hercules drill. Bought it when they first came out. Been using it over a year. Blows my Dewalt drill away. The torque in the Hercules is twice as better than the Dewalt. The only downside to the Hercules is the chuck loosens up when in use and the bit falls out.
Well, how many times do you get to see a bear selling and testing tools? I mean this is the stuff of urban legends, my neighbors uncle had sister that knew a guy. NO we’ve got him on tape talking standing up right and speaking!! Where you gonna find anything like this? Area 51 let one get away and he’s teamed up with harbor freight!! Take advantage of his knowledge and learn, besides the pooping in the woods thing when’s the last time you learned any from a real bear???
I don't know the specific P/N for those MOSFETs on the HF, but a carefully chosen MOSFET can have a very low ON (RDS(on)) resistance which means that if switch on saturated, it should not produce much heat, hence no real need for a heatsink. Remember the speed control is pulse width modulation. The wider the ON pulses within a given period the more power it applies. The wider the OFF pulses, the less power. When you hear that whining sound when applying low power that is the PWM signal.
Hey Bear, thanks for the review and tear down. Definitely interesting seeing the difference in performance and build quality. There will always be people who cast doubt on a review without reason or who are flat out wrong, so don’t let them get to you too much. Good for you for having a strong opinion on something and presenting the facts on why you feel that way. This Herc line is in need of more in-depth reviews like yours. I have 7 dewalt 20v power tools and 5 batteries and really like them. When talking about tools I think a lot of people get stuck in a mindset and can’t see beyond it, like how some may say “HF is all junk!” Or DeWalt is the best!” It’s OK to admit your favorite brand lacks in a certain area, or that a brand you dislike is better than what you own. When HF puts out a product line that is better than the king of the hill (DeWalt) I think it’s a GOOD thing for EVERYONE. People get another quality tool option in their area, and it lights a fire under the butts of the legacy brands to up their product line. I’m happy to see HF making a big move into this market just like I’m happy to see Craftsman being revived. I think most people would agree with me on the Craftsman end, but for some reason, people just like to talk bad about HF even when it’s undeserving.
Many years ago I met a tool rep in a store catering to wood working professionals. He said that the tool business like a no holes barred endless death match. To remain alive one has to increase performance and often lower price to stay alive. The best tool one year can be a has been if it looses the performance edge or looses on price. Not a business where one can just keep doing the same thing and remain alive.
You compared Dewalts super basic drill to Hercules. It’s not even a hammer drill. Compare the Hercules to the dewalt hammer drill compact . That is the one you compare . It smashes the Hercules. And that is still not dewalts best
If anyone takes these videos as gospel than I’m sorry for them .As with any review every result is different as most competent UA-camr says is these three words IN MY OPINION enough said !!!!
I think the point is that almost all of the 'name brand' companies make their tools in China, so there isn't anything secret about how they are made anymore. And most of these companies are 'value engineering' their power tools to be just barely good enough. That gives HF an opening, and they seem to be taking it. I have their 12in miter saw, and it looks and feels at least as good to me as any of the Dewalts I've ever used. And I got it for $300 including a 2-year warranty! I'm hoping HF continues to move into this market, since I feel that the brands I used to trust have been letting me down, and they need some competition to make them get back to making good tools instead of just good enough. HF's Doyle hand tools are good - better than my old Craftsman tools from when Sears was still the big retailer - and while I'd say my Knipex pliers are better, they also cost a LOT more.
These are both bottom of the line tools, most contractors prefer brushless technologies over their brushed counterparts. Dewalt hasn't been a quality tool for some time now. I mean it's not hard to be a good tool in a group of crap tools.
I tell you what Mr. Bear, I was at the good old HF the other day, and I gotta tell ya, the Hercules felt solid to me. This video proves it to an extent. Nothing wrong with Dewalt but Hercules really hit it out of the park with these new drills.
You seem like a nice guy that means well, BUT who should I believe a guy that gets a ton of free stuff from Harbor Freight or a guy like AvE or Project Farm that buys everything with their own money and does actual testing and break downs? Hmmm let me get out my slide rule and figure it out.
The elephant in the room(cave?) is that even if Hercules were amazing (And that's a big IF) the fact remains that they have a very limted offering of tools. Having the availability of tools you need or want when committing to a battery platform is of paramount importance when selecting a cordless tool brand. I was never a DeWilt fan-boy, but needing a new system to replace my ancient Crapsman tools, I went with DeWilt, as they offered pro-grade tools with a huge selection, at a decent price (But now that Stanley owns DeWalt, I'm sure they'll screw it up before long!).
He didn't say it wouldn't perform well he said it wouldn't last long. And I can say from working in a metal shop with a guy that went this route, they die quick and he really gave old harbor freight an honest go. Got a Bauer killed it in a month got the herc killed it in like 2 months.
Bear, keep doing what you're doing and thanks for addressing the AvE review. It had me convinced not to consider Herc. I think AvE is hilarious and I like that he tears down tools and looks at the internals. Not so much of a fan of watching drills racing each other through a piece of wood. That said I've watched enough of your channel to decide that I think you're a credible source of information. For everyone calling you a shill or whatever, I think that's just rude. You shouldn't say shit like that unless you have proof. And refusing to take free tools from any company ain't a crime as long as you don't deny it. I've taken plenty of swag from vendors trying to sell me stuff. In the end I buy what ever works best. As for the Herc stuff, I'll take a second look but the 90 day warranty, the lack of brushless, and the lack of some basic tools in the line gives me paws (see what I did there?). Do you see any change coming to address any of that? Labor day is coming! Oh yeah, and I love the bear thing. But not the polar bear. That thing creeped me out!
I agree, but I do believe doing the tear down before use makes the preformance suspect. The tear down should be done after, then if failure is reached it can be analized.
I honestly enjoyed many of AvEs videos, however when I watched the Hilti drill breakdown I knew he was biased. That video he is clearly trying to make the Hilti look soo much better than it is. Trying to justify a $700 drill simply because the plastic molding is nice will never convince me.
Watch the video again. He says the Hilti is definitely not for everyone but they pay attention to small details such as beautiful, well maintained mold tools. No corners cut.
The difference tho is AvE isn’t getting paid or getting free stuff to say good things about a brand like this guy is with Harbor Freight. Sure, AvE is bias sometimes. We all are. This guy however is just a marketing shill
@@ryanallendale8076 Yup. He is biased on Makita. So am I. They literally invented battery powered tools. Their red line of tools could be somehow wider. If they would keep some focus on it, those could work way out to become valiable option for Ryobi. One thing I hate about Makita is in those cases like with the angle grinder with revs speed regulated. The fcuking thing is just an additional chip + tiny switch and price is twice higher. Compared to exact same grinder without such option.
Since I am Invested in the Ryobi 18V I am not looking for a new system. My son has the Dewalt 20V one day on a deck job I proved that the Dewalt batteries are crap my Ryobi walked all over the Dewalt The Ryobi battery sunk 4 times as many as many screws as the same size Dewalt.
Same, my father has the dewalt 20v max and my c3 craftsman drill battery lasted longer than his equivalent battery. It because TTI uses LG cells if I'm not mistaken. That's why they last longer in a wider temperature scale than Samsung cells.
I've had the 20v Ryobi impact driver, drill, sawsall, and circular saw I bought in a kit for like 150 with 2 Batteries. This set has been Great to me, use em almost daily and I've definitely not been nice to them. They've never let me down and if they all failed today, I'd have still gotten my money out em multiple times.
I won't lie, I've seen DeWalt tools do some amazing things, but I've been a Milwaukee guy for a long time. I watched another video pinning the Hercules impact against a DeWalt impact, and the DeWalt overheated many times, which made it fail in most of the testing. This might have to do with the placement of the MOSFETs and heat sinks (I'm not that technical, but I find it all interesting), but facts are facts. I've had my Milwaukee's stolen from work twice, so I think I'm going to keep those at home and go buy some Hercules for work.
Stealing a man's tools he uses to provide for his livelihood is one of the most dispicable acts à person can do. Torcherring animals and molesting children are worse but after that not too many things are.
I just got a Hercules drill for Christmas and so far I love it. My previous drill was a Hitachi I had for a long time. The Hercules drill is quick, smooth, and capable. All for the fair price of $100. Can't beat that.
So do you know Mr Bear? Is Hercules a Harbor freight owned brand? Or a separate company? Or are all the brands in Harbor freight all Harbor freight owned in house brands? I guess some items with multiple item #s come from different factories. Like Harbor freight puts it up for bid each year to see who will give the best price to mfg. I know hf is pretty much a factory direct to the store place but didn't know if the factories design the stuff and own the trademarks and patents and sell to hf. Or if hf designs and owns everything and contracts the factories to build the tools. Or a mix depending on the brand name.
Hercules is an HF house brand. As far as I know, all products sold at HF are house brands. China is not big on patents but I can tell you that other tools at HF, like the drill master brands, are designed by the factory and then just rebranded for HF. This is called white boxing or Private Labeling. I do know that the new prosumer lines were developed in-house at HF at their US offices. They literally decided who was the top maker in each market and then hired away people from those teams. As I said, when you have enough cash you can literally just hire talent.
A recruiter approached me for a position at HF a couple three years ago. The position was for developing professional (probably actually prosumer tools we are seeing now) grade tools and I was told it wouldn't be a design position but rather bringing in overseas company's products and putting them through an appropriate testing program which whomever was in this position would create. Basically setting the performance the tool would have to meet and teaching their overseas suppliers how to meet it. I was told there wasn't any US based design work. Now the test programs and demanding improvements and saying what those are is part of the development process but that's what HF does in CA, not actually designing the product. This process was also on their website at the time so it's not like I my inside baseball here is all that special, more of confirmation of what everyone already knew.
hell no man they just buy everybody else tools take them apart and copy them change a little thing here and there and go to the public and say here you go see what we made
@@danr1920 My own AvE watching has undergone 3 stages: 1) Wow, this guy knows a lot about plastic and mosfets and stuff! Cool... 2) The sailor's Shakespeare, 3) Boring....(don't watch).
I watched both videos out of curiosity due to your description. Your vid description states "He knocks the choice of neodymium magnets, totally ignores that massive yoke it's installed in and then again makes idiotic claims about temperatures." He called the yoke beefy at 13:11 and a nice heavy ring at 13:49, that was about the only I'm sorry but I guess I have an overdeveloped sense of honor/responsibility. If I got it that wrong in a video I'd either post a correction or take the other video down. Probably both. " So......
We've probably got 20 or so DeWalt drills at work, for all the mechanic's use and I can't remember how many times you slap a battery in there and because parts of the plastic are broken, the whole battery falls out while you're using it. So, the cheapness of the plastic DOES matter. I have a pretty big say, in the tools and whatever else we buy at work; but, the problem is, we're limited from who we can order from: Grainger, Snap-On, McMaster. I'll have to see about buying outside our normal channels.
This Harbor Freight video about the tool quality issue reminds me of when H. Ross Perot was for a short time back in the 90's, on the General Motors board of directors. At that time he recognized just how bad the product quality was at GM. He said the company should focus on making things better one step at a time and not through some kind of huge unmanageable program that would only fail. He was on the board for a short time and left but history shows that GM continued in its old ways and faltered eventually into bankruptcy. It appears to me that Harbor Freight is taking Mr. Perot's advice and improving its products one at a time to become on par with the quality of the most popular mainstream tool products and even in some cases, exceeding them. Also, the Harbor Freight store concept is a real winner for many of the reasons Mr. Bear has pointed out in his other videos. I have one 10 miles away from me and my area is also serviced by a Lowes and Home Depot. I have been shopping Harbor Freight more frequently and really like visiting their store and finding what I need. I am developing confidence in their products built by my own experience with them, as it should be.
Well done and thank you for your critique! Reminds me of the HF extreme xt 1/2 pneumatic impact and the SO pt850. $140.00 vs. $590.00. and almost to a person they stated that there is "no way" HF is better or comparable to the SO...... until you used the HF! Some folks are still in denial !
Bought the Hercules Drill and Driver, they are good for home use but I killed both of them with normal use. Clutch broke on the drill while using a .5” spade bit through oak stump, the impact started smoking during same job but with a 5/8” spade. Both my very old Porter Cable impact and M18 have done 2-300 stumps with those bits (stump removal) and still work like new.
Fair enough test.. And I will agree. in this comparison.. The HF drill wins.. BUT... The Dewalt you are pinning it against. Is the absolute bottom go in their drill line up. So.. Yes.. If you want a home gamer drill. I'd say you should certainly consider the HF. But if you want a drill that will absolutely destroy the Hercules.. Any of the Brushed XR Dewalts would be the better choice.
John Handcock Last time I looked.. The Hercules line was only moderately cheaper than comparable Dewalt and Milwaukee tools.. Tack on their extended warranty and you're real close in price. And only slightly better?? You're welcome to you own opinion. But from my experience(And it's pretty extensive) Harbor Freight tools have very poor longevity. I've owned a few in my day.ive also ended up returning several because they stopped working. look.. If you're happy with buying Harbor Freight tools.. Great! I prefer to spend money on tools manufactured by companies that are willing to stand behind their products for more than 90 days... That warranty says all I need to know about the quality of their tools.
@@johnhandcock3242 At the end of AvE's video the reasons he gave for not recommending the Hercules drill had nothing to do with how the drill did in his torture tests. He compared Hercules's 90 day warranty to DeWalt's 1 year. He pointed out that the Hercules comes with a useless blow mold case that a lot of people (myself included) throw away as soon as the warranty expires because they are too big and cumbersome, compared to the canvas tool bag that came with the DeWalt that you can very easily add other tools or supplies to. I know people who throw away those blow mold cases as soon as they open the package, regardless of brand. He also said that by the time you buy a second battery for the Hercules, you are just about 10 Canadian dollars cheaper than the DeWalt, which comes with 2 batteries. He admits to not liking DeWalt at all in many of his videos. Just on warranty alone, the few extra dollars makes a big difference, add in HF's false advertising, and at least for me, it's a slam dunk.
If you are unaware of what I mean by HF's false advertising...........in HF's flyer, they compare the Hercules to the DeWalt. Look on the back of the cardboard box on the Hercules, where they compare this drill to "the competition" and put an asteric there as well. Then look at the bottom of that same box and you will see that by "the competition", Hercules is referring to a different model Hercules drill. Hercules is not responsible for HF's advertising practices, but when the sole retailer of a product is false advertising that product, and they do nothing about it............that speaks more than just volumes to me.
The tool bear is it a virtual reality avatar, or is it your own creation. I enjoy the iformatinal aspect of your media, especially since I'm in the early stages of setting up my shop. Power tool line up shopping, leaning towards kobalt as I already have there 1/2 impact.
Give me free stuff and I’ll say whatever you want to. “The Ford Focus is WAY better than a Lamborghini! Motor Trends got it WRONG!” (both cars given to me free by Ford with the understanding I shill their product)
What's it like to be born without any morals or ethics? there's a difference between you and me I didn't just say it I showed it too bad you can't say the same.
The Den of Tools You’re the one making bias sponsored shill videos for a living homie, I just made a joke about doing the same thing as you. Good thing you see how unethical it is tho. It’s crazy how you made a video questioning the morals of AvE for giving his (not sponsored) opinion on a tool, then the same video is a sponsored shill vid made in collaboration with the company that sells one of the products you where “comparing”. Now you’re questioning my morals for making a joke about the exact same thing you do. You questioned the morals of AvE for not taking down his video. By your own standards, you need to take down your entire channel and run to the nearest church and pray to god for forgiveness for misleading people for free stuff / money.
Remember when Honda 1st came out with the Honda "Fun Car?" I do, it looked like an over sized shoe, and if you were a pretty beefy guy and you stuck your arm out to to use a hand signal, you might tip the whole car on it's side! Yeah people used to laugh at those things. No one is laughing at Honda now. They arguably make some of the finest cars, motorcycles and lawnmowers on the market.
I vaguely remember AVE's video on these two drills. From what I remember, the factor that gave the win to dewalt was that it came with two batts instead of one and if you bought a second battery for the herc, you were paying the same amount of money. Also, dewalt makes a ton of other tools that work with those batteries so until herc makes a bunch of other tools to go with those batteries, most people will probably prefer the dewalt. As far as quality goes, let's face it, these tools are starting become copies of each other. I don't think there is much of a difference between a lot of these things anymore. Herc's best potential customer are dudes who never owned drills n stuff before.
Yes, the lack of other tools is an issue. If you saw my community section you will see the pic of upcoming tools. There is about 20 or so. More for the Bauer line. The battery comparison is a joke though. The DW comes with anemic 1.5Ah vs the 2.5Ah of the Herc and as per my test you will need both of those DW to come close to one Herc battery.
Real Tool Reviews compared the dewalt and Makita to the Hercules by drilling holes into a wooden board. The hercules constantly drilled holes without struggle longer than the other tools with similar battery packs. The dewalt came in second and the Makita actually was the worst of the bunch. People can call you a shill but it doesn't help when someone else independently of you actually tested it instead of breaking it down and guess about it.
Actually, the Dewalt came in last, as far as holes per amp hour of the battery in his test. I like his channel but his speech cadence makes me feel like I'm watching PBS.
AvE actually did 2 videos where he torture tested the same Hercules drill, and it DID NOT FAIL in either video. He then load tested the battery (in the first video) and it did not stand up to his test, but on the other hand, it did stand up to Red Beard's test. Both tests were reasonable with different results. AvE has a much bigger axe to grind with HF for their deceptive advertising practices than he does with some of the tools they sell. He is also quick to mention in many of his videos his very strong dislike for DeWalt. I honestly think he likes the Hercules drill a lot more than anything with the DeWalt name on it.
Even just looking at the chuck on Harbour Freight's website, you can see it's a quaity piece, all metal, nice grippy looking grip and robust looking. Another site did a review on it, called toolcraze or something, found it on Google. And they pretty much had the same things to say. That it has a few upgrades over the DeWalt D780 and that it's a fine tool. Nothing better about the Dewalt, overall. This has happened before with a lot of upstarts, like you said, yeah.
I like the turquoise tools, Mikita, I think they make the best hand tools next to Hilti and Festool. Sure, you pays a little more, but you get what you pay for. Milwaukee has gone to junk, won't buy again. Still have my Hole Shooter and Hole Hog from '92. They don't make 'em like they used to.
Awww that's funny . I had a great deal on some Milwaukee tools for the black Friday deals . But since I barely would have used them I went the cheaper brushed Bosch route .
Buckeye925 are you talking about the new brushed Milwaukee’s or the fuel? I have brushless Bosch, dewalt, and Milwaukee and the Milwaukee’s are my favorite by far.
i will say we got the hercules at work once "they were used to mix buckets of wood fill putty" and it died pretty quickly about 2 months, just stopped one day. we now use a DeWALT and that once seems to be holding up longer, the herc did seem to have more power and mix better which was really nice but it did not seem to hold up. now my guess after watching both your reviews in it was a fault in the switch not the motor but just my personal experience.
youre a good enough reviewer to not have to "cite" another channels name specifically. that, by default, sidesteps the drama you said you believed in avoiding in the first sixty seconds of the vid. good luck with your channel, always good to have a variety of alternative opinions around.
Citing the channel allows people wh do not live on you tube to find the segment that it is commenting on. Saying one does not like the drama is acknowledging respect for the other channel. A bit like bowing mutually before a match.
Id say you should tell us how much you get paid and by who to do your videos as it always seems your all for HF, I havent seen 1 video where you dislike any of their tools
@@marclaclear6628 if you were to hire a contractor to remodel your kitchen and he showed up with all harbor freight tools whats your first thought? I wouldn't hire someone who didn't invest in their tools because the proper tools dictate the quality of the job
“HeY looK DeWalT doEn’t GlAss FibRe! iT evEn SouNds DifFerEnt WhEn i HiT Funny how you pointed that out without going into it further. The Dewalt isn’t the same material just without glass fibre, it’s a different material all together. The Hercules is presumably using Glass Filled Nylon, the Dewalt is using Polycarbonate. They’re very different materials with different properties. Polycarbonate is also incredibly durable (they make bullet proof glass with it) and isn’t as brittle in cold conditions as GF Nylon is. Now sure, we could go further into the material qualities of Polycarbonate (or particularly Dewalt’s blend) and compare it to the material qualities, but suffice to say that saying “it’s better because it has glass fibre” isn’t an answer. Learn what your talking about yourself before you criticize people for doing the same
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mos 8541 the uppy-downy type of post is meant as a mocking tone.
mos 8541 using uppy downy text to show a mocking tone is an Internet thing. He was mocking what 🐻 guy hitting both drills with a screwdriver and for some reason using that as a point of comparison, and what 🐻 said at 52:13 about the Harbor Freight drill having glass fiber in it and the Dewalt not having any, then saying that somehow meant the Dewalt was inherently worse without then explaining that they are both made out of entirely different materials that both have their own pros and cons.
I don’t remember hearing anything about the case saying it was polycarbonate. I’m pretty sure it said nylon. Yes his tests weren’t scientific but he knows that. I doubt any tool would have a polycarbonate clamshell.
But how does it compare to a Milwaukee? I lost my milwaukee drill for a few weeks and ended up finding it in my yard, rained on a few times, half burried in dirt, and it still works. (not as good as new, I think some stuff got rusty in it not as smooth as it was new, but still gets the job done) and that was a year ago and its still going.
I don't know too many people casually inspecting worksites to see what kind of tools they use. You must be one of those day laborers out there getting $7/HR.
Only issue I have with this test is yeah it’s a great simple test but it puts almost no strain on the tool. When you drill holes or run screws in (which is what the tool is designed for, not pumping water) it puts way more load on the tool and therefore more heat. Which is where you want the extra power of the four brushes, the bigger fan, the higher heat resistance magnets, the higher heat resistance plastic, etc. I think longevity is the most important thing when buying a tool and the herc/harbor freight just hasn’t proved itself like other brands have.
Interesting video. I would like to see another test with more “load” on the drills. It doesn’t seem like your test puts much load on them. Besides which tool selection is a huge factor . I got out of Bosche because of the lack of selection.
I was thinking the same thing. A constant moderate load is one condition and a load that varies up and down to lock up point is a much different one. Drilling steel in a large diameter comes to mind.
I was hoping someone would have made this comment. Watch this video where AvE tears apart a Bauer drill expecting to find crap, but found gold...............or did he??? You'll just have to watch and see ua-cam.com/video/M3WB-EwdJnM/v-deo.html
I just watched that video. I get it, everyone wants a cheap tool that's gold but I stopped watching after he opened it up and found the board wasnt epoxy coated. First time it sees water its garbage. My tools see water and all my makita stuff still works fine. The drill in my main kit is 12 years old. Also people dont want these cheap brands either because there isnt a selection of tools to go along with it. Does Hercules have cordless nailers, skill saw, routers, oscillating saws, chainsaws, lawnmowers, line trimmers, grinders, rotary hammers, jobsite radios, work lights, jig saws, drywall guns, cordless aircompressors, table saws or miter saws? If not than its useless to the guy that makes a living with his tools
The cigar is gone from this channel. It's still on the politics one if I ever remember to post there. But I removed it from here as part of my "family friendly" push. A lot of people like to watch with their cubs and I want to encourage it.
I respect your decision. Personally, think it is too PC for me but that is just one opinion and I will keep watching cause I like your content. Thanks for all that you do.
NVG, right on Bro. I actually like the fact that Da Bear was squaring off against AvE. AvE kind of gets on my nerves sometimes, in fact it’s difficult for me to sit through an entire video of his without using my fast forward button. I find the need for a translator program to decipher about half of what he’s saying. Now I feel better 😉...
Well Isn’t it obvious - by using purple and orange containers for the water you clearly skewed the results for the blue drill. Had you used Red and Green containier then I am sure the water would have been much more suitably fluid and the Yellow drill would have done much better. I mean after all - isn’t this just a matter refractive flow resistance via the nuetronian dipolar dye resistance affect. The real problem here is that HF has many many years of bad reputation to try adn overcome. I admit that I have had lots of bad power tool experience in years past and know that it affects my initial impression of anything that comes from them. Right or Wrong - you cant overcome human nature.
Being a contractor for 45 years, HF is the way to go. Yep....disposable but at the price it out weighs all of the big names. HF has stepped up their game while the rest have lived off their old school name. Nothing learned here but looking forward to a pissing contest. Love ya both.
I will need the model number and generation of both drills to make a fair comparison. The DeWalt one looks a bit older and DeWalts biggest issue is heat. Both the tool and the battery gets very hot, and more heat means less efficiency.
you sir, as you always do, handled this with "class" ...thank you for being a steadfast source of honesty & truth... that is why you are my, & alot of other peoples, first & foremost go-to source for trustworthy tool reviews... god bless ya bro & shine on
“Trustworthy” Ha! When I want a review of a tool, I go to someone who actually uses the tool and uses the tool hard. If I want a wrench review, I go to a mechanic who uses the wrench every day. If I was a review on a saw, I go to a carpenter who uses the tool every day. Bottom line, the “tool bear” buys tools to review them. He does not use them. He is not a mechanic nor a carpenter nor anyone who should be a trusted tool review source. Go to someone who actually uses the tool to get a tool review.
@@brandonbarr9849 I have and DeWalt sucks. DeWalt went down hill years ago. It is overpriced now and lasts as long as anything else. I have some Ryobi battery tools over 20 years old still going strong. I use them many times a week. My son is a plumber, has laughed at my Ryobi, has burned through 2 Dewalts and is not a Milwaukee user.
Well this oughta put him over a million and not hurt you either. Good luck to you both. Subbed to you both, and that’s not going to change. Let’s call it a gentleman’s disagreement and call it a day.
I hope this video isn't implying because HFs top line drill beat Dewalts lowest line drill that by some way this is a reflection on either companies quality because I can tell you HF has alot to be ashamed about in the quality category... I am a pro in the trades and I've bought HF and I've bought top line dewalts/milwaukee ect.. I can honestly say anything that takes a power cord or battery from HF is absolute trash(exclude earthquake from that, one exception for some odd reason), I can say this because like you said; I have real world have tested both. HF has left me stranded and hung up on more jobs because of their junk tools I was relying on to complete a job (that was bid on a flat rate) either just completely stopped working, or have actually burnt up& caught fire. Either situation has cost me money being out a tool/having to rebuy it, causing me to go over budget on small jobs and waste my time. I have slowly replaced every tool I ever bought from HF, and yes I have replaced most all with DeWalt and have yet to be let down or worry about a tool black and yellow makes stop working on me mid-job.. If one did I wouldn't worry too much since the warranty isn't once I leave the store I'm screwed basically-they stand by the product a lot more than HF. There is a reason everyone overpays for DeWalt every day in the box stores, and it's not because of the fancy boxes, it's because they are a trusted reliable brand not self appointed by marketing but earned that reputation from people in the trades over many years. Something HF has squandered¬ even respected since everyone that's ever shopped there can give you a story of their "quality tools" hitting the garbage can. This is way too long of a post so here is my main point to make 1) HF is for one time projects-the tools they sell are meant to be disposable for the weekend warrior DIY handyman; ex: someone doing trim work or flooring in their primary residence 2) DeWalt are professional tools you own a lifetime and only need replaced out of want, not necessity most of the time-and their tools actually have a resell value even used. They both have their place in this economy and will both deliver equal final products based on the user, but tools are a financial decision and you have to ask yourself where your money is better spent.
Why does everyone make the claim this is DW's lowest level tool. It's not. This is the DCD780C2, and it sells at retail for $200, the Herc sells for $110. The lowest level DW is the DCD771c2 and it sells for $100
I've had Dewalt, makita, Rigid, and lots of others. You can get decent stuff at HF. The Hercules is the evolution of the Pittsburgh "professional" line. I have a couple of the old Dark blue Pittsburgh Tools that have taken the beating, like a worm drive Saw, multi tool/plunge cutter, and sliding compound miter saw, all have been very abused and ridden hard. All my cordless are M18 Fuel, but the Hercules line, which I have used because I have had young and broke people work for me and have had entry-level tools, is no worse than any of the other brushed entry-level tools. Probably a little better. It will keep up with other low and mid tier tools.
I tried to watch Ave's video's, OMG he talks way to much. I can appreciate the sense of humor and he is a knowledgeable person but MY GOD please channel his mouth!
My opinion is, I personally dont like either brand but you keep saying "the dewalt" like they make one model. Question- Does this test show either of them drilling 1-1/8 holes in stainless or drilling 2" holes in hard wood? How about 3/8th holes into a block wall? No then what use is it? At least with AvE you see the inside of a tools and not damn bear and a hour of pumping water. This is not a test of anything more than battery life. A black and decker from Wally world could do this test with is brushes tied behind it's back. Either way I hope the kids tool reviews works out. Cheers
To answer your question, no I did not do those tests for two reasons. A. Other people have done them and the Herc wins in all of them. (by a lot). B. Those tests are not controlled. Issues raised are: Was one piece of wood softer, were the drill bits as sharp. Did you push harder on one and not on the other. If you want to prove a fact you need to use a test that has as few variables as possible. Water is often used as a baseline in scientific testing as water alway is... well water. It is consistent and unchanging. As to the second part. I did not want to show all the water tests but you know damn well that if I didn't people would have accused me of faking it. And since it's youtube you can skip it if you want to the second part where I do indeed actually take the tools apart. That fact that you said that "at least ave" did this makes me think you commented without watching the whole video. But that would be silly right? I think you missed the science involved. This does not test the battery so much that it tests the motor. It's the efficiency of the motor and how it uses that power from the battery that is being tested. It's like if you have two cars with 20 gallon tanks. But one car gets 20mpg and the other gets 40mpg. And no, the B&D would not be able to do this test. I tried it with the Craftsman and it failed to even pump water.
So you put a brand new drill against a drill that’s been out for 5 years. I love the science behind the tapping with the back of the screwdriver on the clam shell.
So I own Matco, Milwaukee and Bauer tools and I gotta say, the Bauer stuff has really held its own for 2+ years in the professional automotive environment. The Bauer impact driver was one of my first power tools purchase in harbor freight and albeit not the strongest, it gotten the job done for me. With that my trust in harbor freight tools grew and I now use their hand tools as well. Really pleased with their stuff and IMO I'd rather head to the harbor freight down the road than wait for the tool truck to come next week.
I have been going to HF since they opened one up here in my city. I have watched them improve their tools over the years and they are getting better and better all the time. I have a lot of their tools now and the higher quality ones I buy from them rarely disappoint. I have no problem with their tools.
BTW How does your water pumping test have anything to do with the actual use of these drills? The actual torque and current drain while drilling a hole is much higher than pumping water up 1ft You varied your test procedure substantially between the HF trial and the Dewalt. The discharge rest between cycles will substantially favor the HF The HF drill motor likely is lower powered, will generate substantially less driving torque and so run longer on batteries of similar capacity.
The test, as stated in the video, was to test the efficiency of the motor and battery as per AvE's claim. And there was no deviation in the testing methods between the drills. As to the rest of your comments, that is just assumptions, base on zero knowledge and shows a clear bias. Do some searching around youtube. The Herc has repeated beat the DW in power. Hell in just my teardown you can clearly see that the Herc motor is a better-built motor that will produce more power and run longer. While the XR line of tools from DW are excellent tools the brushed line is junk that is being sold to people who see black and yellow and think it's all the same thing.
Red, The test procedure changed. For the herc, you pumped from one tank to the other. Stopped. Swapped tanks and then pumped again. For the Dewalt, you pumped, then flipped the drill direction snd then pumped again. The pause was 1 or two seconds. Im a 40 year accomplished Design Engineer and R&D Executive. I know a good deal more here than you on this subject. You could not even structure a proper test. It at bedt tested motor efficiency at loads that are irrelevant, so it proved nothing. Your blather about design details etc tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.
@@padraicmcguire108 lol, I hope you were a better exec than you were an engineer. If you go back and look you will see that on I ran it both ways on both tools dependant on which battery was being used. BTW, I was C level R&D Exec in Silicon valley. #tryharder
@@denoftools its not about running the motor both ways. It is all about the time delay between the tests. The battery discharge varies with temperature. I thought I could help you/encourage you to do a better job. Guess not.
And I was hoping I could help you get your facts straight but apparently you're either too dense to try or too stubborn to admit you were wrong. but that's what you get for just skipping through the video and not actually watching it and then making an asinine comment. There were four tests done, two on the DeWalt and two on the Hercules. When I tested the smaller battery on both drills I swapped the jugs. when I tested the larger battery on both drills I just flipped the drill into reverse as you were commenting about. what you missed if I did the same thing with Hercules when it was running the larger capacity battery. I suggest you watch all the testing before making a comment again in fact it's usually better to watch all of the video before making any comments at all.
Good job, but AvE probably won’t even acknowledge this video. I’ve seen both videos the only things on his that stood out was the heat sink for the circuit board. It to me looks like an after thought on HF part and could have been designed better. The drill accessories is a joke (why bother ) And of course the HF marketing bs I completely agree it’s gotten out of hand now lol
The HF marketing is embarrassing. It's like that friend we all have who tries too hard and you just cringe when you have to introduce him to your work friends. As to the MOSFETs, I actually did a fairly deep dive on this, it also helps I have a good friend who is a chip designer win Silicon Vally and everything I found said that this board is designed perfectly and that the heatsink on it is not only good enough but might be overkill.
Sorry, I need this comparison done with Ridgid included in the lineup and then a follow-up 4-5 years later. Oh wait the only one that is going to be repaired or replace 100% battery included is Ridgid. If Harbor Freight was serious about this lineup they would switch to a minimum 2-3yr full warranty or even a complete lifetime warranty like Ridgid and brushless technology. Unless you have zero battery power tools it doesn’t make sense to buy into the Harbor Freight line and even in that situation I would recommend Ryobi for variety of tools, price, longevity, and use-ability.
HF sells their warranties ala cart. Imagine if other tools companies did that? And did you see my top ten drill drivers list? I think you might agree with my results.
Already saw your top 10 and didn’t really agree with it, but good points and all around informative nonetheless. Harbor Freights practice of selling a warranty separate is a policy that I feel most people don't appreciate myself included. If it's as good as any other brand(s), including DeWalt, it should last more than 90 days. If it's designed to be better and last at least 2 years, then why should I have to pay an extra $20-$30 incase it's not as good as claimed to be. If its compared to Dewalt then compare it and bundle all the same 1 to 1 and be done. Still the DeWalt warranty beats it with an additional year warranty over what HF is willing to SELL you and Ridgid just blows them all out of the water with a full lifetime warranty and I personally have both. So the normal HF price of $110, plus $25ish for 2 years of warranty, plus $30 for a second battery puts you around $165. You save $15-35 and have a tool with a year less warranty and total time on market of less than 2 years. It's going to be a very tough sell to professionals and pro-consumers. The only way to close this sale to people already bought into other lines is a 2 or 3 year warranty included at the current selling prices. If they could have pulled off having interchangeable working batteries with say Dewalt that would have been a game changer end of story and people would have bought for that reason alone!
@@ClientGraphics I think what Mr Bear was getting at is that other tool companies charge the extra for the warranty like hf does but don't give you an opt out option like hf. $20 or so of the price tag on those big name brands are to pay warranty costs whether you want the warranty or not. Hf sells without the additional warranty price as a default and gives you the option to opt in or walk away with extra $20 or so in your pocket. It be like buying a dewalt at Lowe's and cashiers says for a $20 discount in price we can sell this as is with a voided warranty and no returns. The others have it tacked on by default and hf leaves it off by default.
One thing to point out would be that if you buy the Harbor Freight Hercules drill the chances of it being stolen on the job site or in general are greatly reduced! It also looks like it has a metal chuck where others will have a better price point, warranty, and plastic chuck. So for $89.00 I can get a RIDGID 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/2 in. Compact Drill/Driver Kit with (2) 1.5Ah Batteries Charger and Bag and lifetime warranty from Home Depot in my area today. www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-1-2-in-Compact-Drill-Driver-Kit-with-2-1-5Ah-Batteries-Charger-and-Bag-R860052K/205690161
@@ClientGraphics Dewalt only offers a 1 year warranty for parts and labor. After that it's only parts, and you have to pay for the labor. You also have to pay to mail it back to them. A one year warranty at HF is just as good as Dewalt's 3 year warranty. Maybe arguably better. Make no mistake, Dewalt is charging you an amount for that warranty. It's included in the price.
Hf copies the most popular tools on the market and undercuts them in hopes of leaching profit. The den copies the most popular boltr on UA-cam and undercuts him in hopes of leaching viewers. Shameful
Not to be a dick.....but, you just did the car and drivers test. You know when the magazine "car and driver" takes a brand new vehicle and tests it and says how awesome it is. I'd love car and driver to test that same vehicle after 150k. I want longevity. aVe tests longevity also. He goes through the circuit boards and switches and motors and explains why a certain tool is good or not. He raved about the stubby earthquake pneumatic impact wrench. Hes not brand loyal. He tells it as he sees it. You on the other hand are being paid by harbor freight even if only in free tools. I generally respect your opinion but not this time. As a home gamer, I want a tool that will last 20+ years. I want the upgradeability. I want a huge line up of tools that fit the same battery platform. I want a proven tool. Hercules hasn't been around long enough and I can not justify spending the exact same amount of money on that as I would a Milwaukee brushed or dewalt brushless. And dont get me wrong. I love Harbor freight and most of their stuff. And especially the prices on most of it.
Btw I don't remember what you were testing the drill for? Battery life? Temperatures? Next time just put the intake and discharge hose in the same bucket or bathtub and recirculate. Might be a tad quicker without the monkeying around
No one can sit on a bench and tell you to matter of factly how long a tool will last. Anyone who claims to is lying to you. I've been in product development for over 20 years and I can tell you that is the one single indisputable fact. Even product testing is a guess compared to the real world. And I said quite clearly that I think this particular video was outside the norm for him. But as you said he goes through each and every component and explains them. But in his video on this tool, he either lied or was just flat wrong. The MOSFETs, the Magnets, the Yoke, the Brushes and yes, especially the batteries. Hell, he flat out claimed they were generic cells and not Samsungs. This was not an opinion piece, these are facts that you can go out and look up for yourself. And if you think I'm being paid? How much do you think he made on that video? Do you think it would have nearly 2 Million views if he wasn't absolutely slamming this drill at every turn? And he is brand loyal. Have you ever heard him say a single bad thing about Hilti? Hell, he totally blew a MOSFET on a Milwaukee and never said BOO about it. Yes, he has said good things about HF brands before and I'm not saying he is always wrong. I'm talking about one specif incident. As to the running from the same tank. I thought about it but then someone would say, "Well the ____ drill was pumping the water faster that is why the battery didn't' last as long time wise". The test was showing how efficient the motor of each drill was and how much "work" you could get from each battery.
I agree that no one can give you a definite whether it will last 20 years or not. I own 2 dewalt 18 volt drills and one of them I've owned 11 years and it's still running. This weekend I bought a huge Milwaukee set and expect it should last equally as long. I'm not against buying Hercules or bauer. The price isn't quite where it needs to be tho. I so far like the bauer. And was extremely close to buying the saw, drill, grinder, impact driver and grinder. But I just couldn't
I own and have bought both Milwaukee and dewalt for the last 15 years. I'm a commercial plumber. I have no choice but to put these tool through the toughest jobs and I have to say that all these new power tools are not made to last 10-20 years! Just last long enough till there next generation, new latest and greatest is out! I believe that this new drill from Hercules is better than the dewalt drill that you compared it with. But that is a new Hercules drill and model, the dewalt shown is very out dated. The new dewalt dcd996 is one the be reckoned with. I really love Milwaukee's 5yr warranty and can vouch that they try their best to keep you satisfied! I really like dewalt tools but they are the worst for standing behind there tools! Aside from there BS. 1yr warranty they will find any reason to tell you that you voided your warranty! After all the tools I have bought from dewalt they sure did disappoint me
In 2016 I purchased the Hercules Hammer/Drill and as of today this sucker is SPOT-ON! Working construction means it's not hanging pictures and never let me down. The cost was $109.00 (with case) and if I lost it I'd buy it again.
So what you're saying is, the Hercules is a Skookum Choocher after all?
@Jewell Arostegui sounds pretty and even if it was true looks scammy
@Jewell Arostegui it took me 5 minutes!! Am I doing this right?
Engineers.
I am one, with a Bachelor's degree and 30+ years to show for it.
But ... one of my favorite quotes is
"In theory, theory and practice should produce exactly the same results; in practice, this is only very rarely so."
Talk about botching something up. It goes: "in theory, theory and practice are the same; in practice they are very different."
Long-time AvE subscriber, who just stumbled onto your channel yesterday (sliding miter saw comparison vid).
I've got to admit, I think Uncle Bumblefuck missed the mark on this as well. He did praise much about the Hurcules, but seemed pretty stuck on the two brush setup making it junk, completely disregarding the motor being a much more efficient setup (like the Hilti).
Kudos!
Subscribed!
The brush debacle is a mute point for me, I decided I am buying a brushless motor on my next drill.
@@rickeymh -- That's a moot point, unless it can't talk.
I am a huge fan of AvE, and I am really happy to hear that you don't want to start any drama or a war of something small like this but it was a great experience to get both sides, of the argument I'm going to start watching more of your videos.
To everyone who thinks I'm shilling for HF and that I just say that their tools are the best, I would like you to explain why, in my top drill driver list, I rated 5 other brands over the Herc and the Bauer didn't even make my top 10 list. In fact, neither did the Kobalt or Tacklife, both of which have set me free tools before? Also, why did I show my method, my tools used and then actually ASK OTHER PEOPLE TO REPEAT THIS EXPERIMENT TO PROVE ME WRONG??? Show me another reviewer who does this?
HF does not pay me, they have sent me tools for review. This is standard in the product review industry. And unless that would be enough for you to sell out your ethics then shut the hell up. The second you say that sort of crap all you are doing is screaming "I'm a fanboy for the product you just dissed". Grow up.
One year ago. And I do not know if anything was changed. I can tell you that none of the parts that he said were a concern are different on the equipment I tested from what he showed in his video. My clamshell did not have the fitment issues his did. I have three Herc tools and none of them show that issue. Not sure if they fixed the problem or if he just got a bad one.
@@Cheddah45 so he's not allowed to say someone else is wrong and explain why?
This is "Red is a shill" is an attempt to stir up drama. It's like the Scotty Kilmer talking about Chris Fix being wrong about something and people blow up it more than it is incident.
Also, people have been paying big store prices for name brand stuff. People don't like it when a smaller store that historically sells cheaper stuff comes along and makes a better product. It upends their world view.
Another reason why brand loyalty can be poisonous.
This is why HF gave you the extra D/D for the teardown.
Not to mention 2 brushes compared to 4 less drag.
Red Beard and The Den of Tools lol the bears claws just ripped some people a new one .
I'm an engineer. I find both your channel and AvE's endlessly entertaining. You've got an opinion. AvE has one. I'll bet both of you will say the same thing about opinions... everybody's got one. Your comparison between these two drills is pretty clear. I don't see any sign that you're shilling for HF. Please keep on keepin' on, Mr. Bear.
Well said Steven
Steven Leibson ave is a real smart guy, this guy hmmm.
You think a guy who can regularly create videos of himself using a motion-cap animation is not smart,@@dennisnichols8970? You set a high bar indeed.
@@sleibson wait.... He's not a real bear?!? I take it back. This human isn't impressive at all!!!
@@sleibson you think that is motion capture..... That looks more like a voice avatar to me, not saying he is stupid just not what you think it is.
I love what your channel has become Red. You really take things to the next level with good explanations, testing and honest reviews. I don’t see you favoring any one brand, but fairly testing several brands and letting the viewers decide for themselves.
I've owned both a Hercules and Dewalt, what I found was that the Hercules did better when new, the Dewalt batteries got better with time for a period, then over the course of two years started to get weaker. The Hercules took longer for the Li-Ion batteried to optimize but they were stronger when they did. The problem I found was that while the Dewalt batteries did die off after 2 years, they were still somewhat usable. The Hercules batteries died off all at once. They were good one day, crap the next. I also didn't feel that I got as much life out of the Hercules batteries per charge doing light tasks, like driving screws and other somewhat low load tasks. The Dewalt was much better at that sort of thing, while the Hercules was better at all out high torque work. I think it had something to do with the Hercules being able to get more power from its battery under demand.
Both of mine had a few durability tests, both had been dropped several times, the Dewalt took a fall from about 10ft, it landed on the front bottom of the battery. The battery cracked, but still worked and the drill was unharmed. The Hercules fell of the top of my truck's side box to the pavement, it landed pretty much the same way and the battery split apart, and the case of the drill broke above the battery where it flexed the most. I melted it back together and reinforced it with some epoxy inside and its been fine but the battery is relying on duct tape to stay together these days. The chuck on the HF has held up better, the chuck on the Dewalt is almost frozen and is hard to tighten and loosen already.
My biggest gripe with the Dewalt is that the batteries are shot and they cost too much to be worth replacing. I get the impression that the cost of their batteries is part of a planned obsolescence built into their whole game.
The HF battery needed to be replaced too but I could have gotten a pair of them for less than the cost of one Dewalt battery,
(I'm not even taking into consideration that the Dewalt came with two batteries and the HF only one).
I think Dewalt took more into consideration when they made the case out of the more flexible plastic, while its softer or more flexible, it is more durable if it takes a big fall, but alot of that has to do with how and where it falls.
These both have issues, they both have some good points, the real test will be how well they hold up over time and if HF continues to support these first models say four or five years from now.
I do feel that Dewalt has gone downhill in quality since the days of their first yellow tools back in the late 80's when they were still called B&D Professional. I still have various older Dewalt and B&D tools that still work fine and parts and batteries can still be had. I somehow doubt that we will be able to buy replacement batteries for these HF drills in say 30 or so years.
HF is doing what I've been wanting them to do, starting to sell good tools, no just the cheapest ones.
I agree. The Chicago electric and even the Bauer were junk. They've always crapped out on me pretty quick. All my cordless tools now are Chicago pneumatic (5+ years now nearly everyday use and going strong.) but when they crap out think I'm gonna switch to Hercules.
Christ almighty. None of these components hold up to everyday use. Saying they do is a hilarious joke. Sure maybe if youre a diy warrior theyll do. But god if I could only count the new guys bringing in their hft tools on the job... wow does that change so damn quick and for such a legit reason. They just dont do it pal. They dont. Absolutely none of them. Your 5 years is my 5 months. Theyre shit, theyre toast by that time. Buy a proper tool if youre in a trade. Such a fuckin joke these hft tools. God even dudes “upgrading” to ryobi even were vastly reaping the benefits
@@justinnitkowski8745 what brand of hammer drill would you recommend?
@@phenomiclord261 I am not a contractor but a constant DIY type and have both Bauer and Metabo HPT tools, never had a issue with any Bauer tools except for a couple that eat batteries but they are not brushless so that is expected to some extent. Granted your comment is 2 years old so maybe they were junk back then? my oldest Bauer tool is just over eighteen months old, but with heavy use and no issues, I even dropped one from about 7 feet onto concrete, just a scuff and worked fine. Are Bauer the same quality as Makita, Milwaukee Fuel or even Ridgid Octane no they are not but they are not meant to be, they are designed to compete with Riyobi, Hart etc and at that they do fairly well I would say better quality than Hart and about the same as Riyobi at a better price for the system generally.
@@justinnitkowski8745 Funny contractors like VCG have tested and praised Hercules.
who would ever have thought that a talking bear cartoon would be such a professional, informative channel? Great job!
Bear guy: *PLEASE* get word to Hercules management/marketing. Put together a complete package. 1/2" drill or (better) hammer drill + Cir Saw + Recip saw + Jig Saw + 2 batteries (1- 2.5ah,1-5ah) + charger (leave out the light). No BS, no fluff, just man-get-it-done tool set. IMHO if they did this set with a 'super coupon' they'd set records.
Yes! Down with useless lights in tool packages that I would rather throw away and replace it's in too many packs.
a Harbour freight rep once told me they chose to do the tools ala carte in order to be able to price them as low as they could. Usually Milwakee Dewalt, etc will sell a "Kit" at a loss to them to pull you into the eco system so you can then buy their more expensive tools so you can use the batteries you already have with them.
That's common industry marketing for cordless lines. Once they have some pieces in a kit it's an easy next step to buy more now you've got some batteries and charger. If they aren't junk people will by other tools in the line. That's how I got all the Ryobi stuff.
I retired as an industrial engineer charged with avionics support, from Boeing, some 20 years ago, after an 18-year stint with them. Most of my time, was spent at, or with the vendors who manufactured the various systems and/or devices.
With that said, just about every custom component was tested using a process which began with "the design of experiments" phase; an optical comparator analysis, before, during, after, and 'again after' comparator analysis phase. The numbers for all of the sub-assemblies, and their components were compared, and if within expected norms, the go-ahead was given for a trial production run, during which a butt-load of documentation, including "acceptable build procedures which avoid tribal knowledge, at any cost", were also implemented, tested again, and approved (if worthy).
While NOT defending AvE, and I really do agree with your teardown concept, and operation, prior to the inception of the trial analysis, AvE, does do a "sub assembly + electronic/electrical durability analysis, which appears to be effective, and fairly thorough', given the fact that his "can isn't planted somewhere within a million-dollar analytical laboratory'. Does there need to be a 'before, and after analysis??, you bet!, but my guess is, that economics, and the ability to gain a fairly acceptable analytical result is his goal.
Yours, is a 'functional analysis' which yields an "at this moment analytical result"; and that has merit. Very often, AvE's analyses attempt to determine "the longevity quotient", through "semi-destructive testing". That, too, has merit. Combine both, and receive a pretty good prognostication of how long it will remain on the shop wall, and its most probable effective usage.
I totally agree with you and as I said he is usually accurate, or at least accurate enough. But in this video, he drops the ball repeatedly. Calls Samsung cells generics. Complains about high-end MOSFETs without doing research on them (many people have called him out on this). Says that a Chinese made tool is using an overseas switch. Really? What does the Dewalt use? In fact, they are using an even lesser brand, also overseas switch. His comment on brushes is incorrect. You don't put on 4 brushes unless your motor design needs 4. It's work around design as adding more switches to push more current is a cost saving over a measure. It allows to you use cheaper parts on the motor and to brute force power at the cost of efficiency. As my testing showed pretty clearly.
I was the COO for a tech firm in Silicon Valley for the last 20 years and oversaw product development on both the software and hardware sides so I'm very familiar with product testing and evaluation. I'm sorry but when an engineer tells me "Oh that doesn't work" when I know other people are making it work I say "Fine, show me why". AvE does not do the way, he just states a fact and the problem comes about when he can't admit that he isn't as savvy in a field as he thinks he is. He showed a significant lack of knowledge when it came to the magnets and yoke design. Sadly that if a fairly typical affliction in these fields. Alph Tech syndrome. When someone can't admit what they don't know.
+Red Beard and The Den of Tools, many thanks for your reply. As an admitted "Analog Dinosaur, in a digital era", I've been nothing but impressed with the 'flood of change, with regard to everything electro-mechanical, brought on by rare earth magnetics. Small world declaration, I worked within the US Route 202 Aerospace Corridor; declared "The Silicon Valley of the East", during Reagan's 1984 visit.
I'm old enough to have been part of the drive towards Surface Mount Technology, and scarily remember the country's "scared s**tless" reaction to Jason Robards' "The Day After"; we immediately started to care about H.I.R.F., and recall the animosity of those who built backplane assemblies, after being nicknamed "The Ferrite Fools".
Finally, I can sympathize with your analysis of the makeup of the engineering mind. I've seen some doozies! Software engineers, many of whom were independent contractors, seldom stayed with a project more than six months. MCDU's alone, contained 'super massive amounts of code'; and the verification seemed to never end.
My daughter, at age three, while visiting my cubicle (on the way to a pediatrician's appointment, with the 'then' wife), literally made an a** out of Boeing's then big cheese, Phil Condit, who made the mistake of communicating in small-talk niceties, by asking her if she liked my office. Her reply, "it's okay, and you, sir"??? His reply, oh, it's wonderful here.
She concluded by stating "you must be lying, because nobody likes it here". Point/counterpoint, TKO, the winner, my 3 year old. Mr. Condit asked if she was available to travel to their Emirates negotiations. The next day, a courier delivered a DHL "Immediate Service" envelope, addressed to her, containing a $500.00 Toys-R-us gift card, and a PA-529 $2,000 Educational Savings Deposit confirmation. She also received an 'employee of significance' award.
A steadfast principle at Boeing, "only keep software engineers until they drool", was deeply ensconced within truth. I admire the interactions which you have with your family, for that is the true meaning of life.
AMStationEngineer, aVE's video was also posted a year ago and I bet that good ole HF was watching and made changes to that product in that time. You are exactly right everyone has their own opinion on what is quality in their opinion.
gregred78 this is a fact! That’s the best part of harbor freight you never know what your going to get.. it’s always different.. I say we quit giving this shill any more comments.
"I can probably snap the Dewalt chuck with my hands."
Well of course you could, your a bear! ;-p
Brian over at Work Shop Addict told me that he owns different tool brands because no one tool company makes the best of everything.
Cant finish this video so boring
I have Ryobi , ridgid, Milwaukee, bostich, dewalt
Some because I got a great bargin on them or for free
Brian is a smart guy, that’s exactly how I feel
I standardized on a tool brand not because they were the best but because I wanted interchangeable batteries. I can't stand having a bunch of incompatible batteries or tools where I can't get a new battery because the tool company just arbitrarily designed something different, for no good reason. I dumped DeWalt because they kept changing the battery platform. Screw those guys.
Exactly right. I have everything but DeWalt
"These are new, very expensive, compared to the MOSFETs used in the DW. They are extremely low heat by comparison and are being used EXACTLY as they are designed to be used. "
Do you have their datasheets? Also one note about the test - I'd like to see the current during the test. During full load I'd expect the MOSFETs not to switch on/off, so the only heat is I*I*Rdson. If the current is not high enough (low torque of the pump) - they will be able to dissipate the heat. High torque would require more current and hence more heat dissipation required. On top of that battery cells might be more effective at lower current, instead of being able to delivery higher max. currents. Don't get me wrong Samsung cells are fine but the test is far from conclusive in my opinion.
I love AVE's videos and have been a subscriber for years. I have noticed that he does have his biases and sometimes presents things in such a way to fit the flavor of whatever videos he is making. Perhaps that's just human nature. He is still very informative and most important of all - great for a laugh. I appreciate his channel and I appreciate yours.
He has this weird fetish about expensive tools. One time I saw him reviewing something, I think snapon, and he was basically coming to the conclusion that it wasn't much better than the competition, which was obviously far cheaper. But despite that, he kept harping on about how he could pass the sanpon tools down to his kids. Legacy brand or something.
Now, what would your kid rather have? $1000 and some Pittsburgh pro wrenches or some snapon wrenches?
How many wrench’s do you get for $1000? 3/8”-3/4”🤣
ronnie sexton it’s not a fetish it’s being bias and all of us are bias towards a certain tool brand.
@@eizzle78 - I recently sold my 25 year old SnapOn tools and got enough money to replace ALL of them with PittsburghPro from Harbor Freight AND had enough money left over to buy a brand new desktop computer. Even used SnapOn tools fetch a "pretty penny" but if you buy them new, they are (in my view) insanely over priced for what you get. It is a mistake I made when I was young (and dumb) but I would tell anyone looking to buy tools that their money would be better invested elsewhere.
Chris Moore wow. I have no issues with buying quality, but as a home mechanic, I definitely can’t justify snap on prices!
I am the DeWalt fan, but the DeWalt drill you tested was the low end one. I wouldn't recommend that dill to anyone it's not a good drill and the chuck is junk. The one AVE tested is the XPR model.
Actually now that I look at all AVE's he has tested both.
@Jack Morris Like I said he has tested both. The XPR is the one I recommend. This one m.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-1-2-in-20-volt-Max-Variable-Speed-Cordless-Hammer-Drill-Battery-Not-Included/3962543?cm_mmc=SCE_PLA-_-ToolsAndHardware-_-CordlessDrillsAndComboKits-_-3962543:DEWALT&CAWELAID=&kpid=3962543&CAGPSPN=pla&store_code=1940&k_clickID=go_625706834_34613748430_111132557110_aud-299487635250:pla-259591911570_m_9002739&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIz6TCpK393gIVlZJbCh0vNwk4EAQYBCABEgKgKvD_BwE
@Jack Morris That one is also good. Just a bit more spendy because it has a brushless motor. Basically you want to stick to there pro grade (XPR/XR) stuff. Dewalt has for a long time made consumer grade drills that are no better then any of the other cheap drills you can buy. Only reason to buy them over another brand is being Dewalt they have a more common battery.
DeWalt is black and decker. While not bad. It isn't the best.
They put their brand on it, they should expect said brand to get diluted.
The sad truth of the matter is that you don't buy the drill, you buy the batteries.
It's just like razors and printers. In fact the crappy DW batteries had me thinking of those printers you get that only have like 10% of the normal ink in them.
That's why I went with Milwaukee, the batteries are expensive, but they have a wide range of tools that work with all those batteries.
@@denoftools Replacement cartridges for printers are a huge scam. When your new printer runs out of ink, the replacement cartridges cost more than the printer did when it was new. It's cheaper to throw away the printer when the "starter cartridges" run out of ink, and just buy a new printer. I have never seen any company say...........buy our ink cartridges and we will give you a free printer.
I agree I use my drills one in awhile but my m18 lights, blower, radio, weed eater, impact driver on and on get used daily
@@PaganWizard cuz they sell the printers at a loss. Ditch inkjet, & get a laser printer.
AvE is an interesting fellow and his channel is very entertaining.
You have a great channel and I appreciate your opinions and reviews. Most People either love or hate hf, you keep it real, calling out the junk and letting us know about the good stuff.
Always remember, it was an engineer put that one bolt in an area that you cant get to. It was also an engineer that designed the Mooney that lost its tail. It was also an engineer that said the o-rings on the space shuttle were good to go. Just because someone says " I am an engineer", does not mean they know squat.
Yes I have met a lot of "Educated Idiots".
Oh, buy the way, the engineers who designed the O rings told those in charge NOT to launch when it was cold. Many attempted to delay that launch. Bean counters at the top overroad their protests. I know some of those guys, their opinions lay the blame on the BEAN counters (upper management) for the design and decisions.
Regarding the o-rings on that shuttle... The engineer actually tried to stop the launch but was shutdown by management.
I've been told "An expert knows more and more about less and less".
We do not know what borders and limits the enginers were given to force them to use the o rings. One might guess cost or else.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I am an older guy that has many physical problems, and can not work like I used to. Because of this I buy lesser power tools than I used to. What do I need a drill/driver that lasts all day on one charge when I only last an hour and then need a nap. Do I want the the best tool made; you bet, but I can’t afore it on a fixed income and really don’t need it. (Like need has much to do with it) after a bit of research the Hercules seemed like it might be like the professional Black and Decker line I bought years ago right before they purchased the Dewalt name as I read about it in triad mags. I have some tools that took the same parts, but are dark gray and say “Black and Decker Professional”, and friends would laugh at me for spending half the price that they spent for yellow paint. I was a bit put off the Hercules brand after watching the video you talk about. I thought the fella doing the video had a lot more knowledge than I, and I have learned that kind on bragging and his fowl mouth usually denotes someone not to be trusted. I should have trusted my hunches, but after your excellent video taking the tool apart and explaining things not just making some snide comments, I believe I will be in the market for that drill driver the next trip to HF. Thanks again, and thanks for keeping your channel clean and entertaining.
Did you see my latest video on the new Herc 12V line?
I did see them and if they drop the price just a little by May it will be a birthday present for my sister and brother in law, both in May. That will keep them from borrowing my 20v. And fit my sister’s hand.
LOVE IT! Thanks for starting my day off right! I've watched AvE. I'm no prude, however, his language gets old. I used to talk like him. Kudos to you for being a stand up bear!
Hey Red, I like you and AvE. That said I've been a fan of HF for over a decade now. 'bout 10+ years ago I notice that HF was making some pretty great air tools (die grinders, nailers, etc.._) and once a month I'd spend $40 to $100 on tools there, the price was unbeatable and the quality was going up. I also started buying the impact sockets and air tool impact drivers along with torque wrench and all size and drive size socket tools. You cannot beat them. I will never spend big bucks on hand tools as long as HF is around. Love me HF. Keep up the great videos Bear!
I feel that with the Hercules that the biggest problem one may come across is more so with the battery than the drill. Companies put more time and energy and money into the design and build of the drill and the battery being an afterthought.
As batteries age they get weaker with time and you don't want to be throwing a butt ton of money having to replace batteries.
It's nice to see you got the kid involved kids nowadays need to have interest Beyond computers and videogames learn to work with their hands.
Also you don't have the HF security screwdriver bit set?
Honestly, I feel the batteries are the least of your worries. Samsung cells, good frames and spot welds, and that heatsink! And the price for these batteries is the best you are going to find. Did you see my other video? Per mAh, no one sells their batteries cheaper than the Herc brand and most of those are not using the Samsung cells. BTW, I do quite a bit with that sort of battery and the Samsung is the top rated brand to buy, no question about it.
Those Samsung cells are the best in the business... And the construction of the battery is top notch, therefore if the battery is going to be the the thing that fails in the Hercules, sounds like the Hercules is a winner to me!
I love my Hercules drill. Bought it when they first came out. Been using it over a year. Blows my Dewalt drill away. The torque in the Hercules is twice as better than the Dewalt. The only downside to the Hercules is the chuck loosens up when in use and the bit falls out.
Is that Hercules fault or the Jacobs brand chuck?
@@mikeostic9691 Its the chuck.
@@mikeostic9691 Not all "Jacobs Chucks" are the same. Look closely at them on the inside.
Why the hell am I watching a f’ing “BEAR”
Infotainment is the reason for the season. Face it, the info would be the same but it's more fun when it comes from a tool bear.
Well, how many times do you get to see a bear selling and testing tools? I mean this is the stuff of urban legends, my neighbors uncle had sister that knew a guy. NO we’ve got him on tape talking standing up right and speaking!! Where you gonna find anything like this? Area 51 let one get away and he’s teamed up with harbor freight!! Take advantage of his knowledge and learn, besides the pooping in the woods thing when’s the last time you learned any from a real bear???
It's his "gimmick" Everyone has probably seen the insurance commercial with the gecko...same same.
Because the bear is cool.
@@denoftools yeah lmao you can even have the bear match up with the words lol
I don't know the specific P/N for those MOSFETs on the HF, but a carefully chosen MOSFET can have a very low ON (RDS(on)) resistance which means that if switch on saturated, it should not produce much heat, hence no real need for a heatsink. Remember the speed control is pulse width modulation. The wider the ON pulses within a given period the more power it applies. The wider the OFF pulses, the less power. When you hear that whining sound when applying low power that is the PWM signal.
Hey Bear, thanks for the review and tear down. Definitely interesting seeing the difference in performance and build quality. There will always be people who cast doubt on a review without reason or who are flat out wrong, so don’t let them get to you too much. Good for you for having a strong opinion on something and presenting the facts on why you feel that way. This Herc line is in need of more in-depth reviews like yours.
I have 7 dewalt 20v power tools and 5 batteries and really like them. When talking about tools I think a lot of people get stuck in a mindset and can’t see beyond it, like how some may say “HF is all junk!” Or DeWalt is the best!” It’s OK to admit your favorite brand lacks in a certain area, or that a brand you dislike is better than what you own. When HF puts out a product line that is better than the king of the hill (DeWalt) I think it’s a GOOD thing for EVERYONE. People get another quality tool option in their area, and it lights a fire under the butts of the legacy brands to up their product line. I’m happy to see HF making a big move into this market just like I’m happy to see Craftsman being revived. I think most people would agree with me on the Craftsman end, but for some reason, people just like to talk bad about HF even when it’s undeserving.
Many years ago I met a tool rep in a store catering to wood working professionals. He said that the tool business like a no holes barred endless death match. To remain alive one has to increase performance and often lower price to stay alive. The best tool one year can be a has been if it looses the performance edge or looses on price. Not a business where one can just keep doing the same thing and remain alive.
You compared Dewalts super basic drill to Hercules. It’s not even a hammer drill. Compare the Hercules to the dewalt hammer drill compact . That is the one you compare . It smashes the Hercules. And that is still not dewalts best
If anyone takes these videos as gospel than I’m sorry for them .As with any review every result is different as most competent UA-camr says is these three words IN MY OPINION enough said !!!!
I think the point is that almost all of the 'name brand' companies make their tools in China, so there isn't anything secret about how they are made anymore. And most of these companies are 'value engineering' their power tools to be just barely good enough. That gives HF an opening, and they seem to be taking it. I have their 12in miter saw, and it looks and feels at least as good to me as any of the Dewalts I've ever used. And I got it for $300 including a 2-year warranty!
I'm hoping HF continues to move into this market, since I feel that the brands I used to trust have been letting me down, and they need some competition to make them get back to making good tools instead of just good enough. HF's Doyle hand tools are good - better than my old Craftsman tools from when Sears was still the big retailer - and while I'd say my Knipex pliers are better, they also cost a LOT more.
That Dewalt drill is made in the USA
These are both bottom of the line tools, most contractors prefer brushless technologies over their brushed counterparts. Dewalt hasn't been a quality tool for some time now. I mean it's not hard to be a good tool in a group of crap tools.
I tell you what Mr. Bear, I was at the good old HF the other day, and I gotta tell ya, the Hercules felt solid to me. This video proves it to an extent. Nothing wrong with Dewalt but Hercules really hit it out of the park with these new drills.
"I won't be rich, but I'd have a lot of nickles..." 😂😂😂
You seem like a nice guy that means well, BUT who should I believe a guy that gets a ton of free stuff from Harbor Freight or a guy like AvE or Project Farm that buys everything with their own money and does actual testing and break downs? Hmmm let me get out my slide rule and figure it out.
The elephant in the room(cave?) is that even if Hercules were amazing (And that's a big IF) the fact remains that they have a very limted offering of tools. Having the availability of tools you need or want when committing to a battery platform is of paramount importance when selecting a cordless tool brand. I was never a DeWilt fan-boy, but needing a new system to replace my ancient Crapsman tools, I went with DeWilt, as they offered pro-grade tools with a huge selection, at a decent price (But now that Stanley owns DeWalt, I'm sure they'll screw it up before long!).
He didn't say it wouldn't perform well he said it wouldn't last long. And I can say from working in a metal shop with a guy that went this route, they die quick and he really gave old harbor freight an honest go. Got a Bauer killed it in a month got the herc killed it in like 2 months.
Holly shit I didn't release until now this video is already 5 years Old !!! My bad but I still stand by everything I said anyway !
The right answer is "The Hercules might not last long". There is no way of telling if it won't last long. No one can tell the future.
Bear, keep doing what you're doing and thanks for addressing the AvE review. It had me convinced not to consider Herc. I think AvE is hilarious and I like that he tears down tools and looks at the internals. Not so much of a fan of watching drills racing each other through a piece of wood. That said I've watched enough of your channel to decide that I think you're a credible source of information. For everyone calling you a shill or whatever, I think that's just rude. You shouldn't say shit like that unless you have proof. And refusing to take free tools from any company ain't a crime as long as you don't deny it. I've taken plenty of swag from vendors trying to sell me stuff. In the end I buy what ever works best.
As for the Herc stuff, I'll take a second look but the 90 day warranty, the lack of brushless, and the lack of some basic tools in the line gives me paws (see what I did there?). Do you see any change coming to address any of that? Labor day is coming!
Oh yeah, and I love the bear thing. But not the polar bear. That thing creeped me out!
I agree, but I do believe doing the tear down before use makes the preformance suspect. The tear down should be done after, then if failure is reached it can be analized.
"Both tools were provided to me by Harbor Freight" 🤔
Surely they wouldnt send him 2 drills and batteries outside opposite ends of the bell curve..?
It's ok to disagree. You both have great channels. We are all not going to see eye to eye on every last detail. Thanks for the great vids man!
I honestly enjoyed many of AvEs videos, however when I watched the Hilti drill breakdown I knew he was biased. That video he is clearly trying to make the Hilti look soo much better than it is. Trying to justify a $700 drill simply because the plastic molding is nice will never convince me.
Watch the video again. He says the Hilti is definitely not for everyone but they pay attention to small details such as beautiful, well maintained mold tools. No corners cut.
Check out his video on waaay too expansive Metabo and whats inside.
The difference tho is AvE isn’t getting paid or getting free stuff to say good things about a brand like this guy is with Harbor Freight. Sure, AvE is bias sometimes. We all are. This guy however is just a marketing shill
@@ryanallendale8076 Yup. He is biased on Makita. So am I. They literally invented battery powered tools. Their red line of tools could be somehow wider. If they would keep some focus on it, those could work way out to become valiable option for Ryobi.
One thing I hate about Makita is in those cases like with the angle grinder with revs speed regulated. The fcuking thing is just an additional chip + tiny switch and price is twice higher. Compared to exact same grinder without such option.
But where do you buy Hercules bandsaw, multi tool, table saw, chop saw, 9.0ah battery, etc
Since I am Invested in the Ryobi 18V I am not looking for a new system. My son has the Dewalt 20V one day on a deck job I proved that the Dewalt batteries are crap my Ryobi walked all over the Dewalt The Ryobi battery sunk 4 times as many as many screws as the same size Dewalt.
Same, my father has the dewalt 20v max and my c3 craftsman drill battery lasted longer than his equivalent battery. It because TTI uses LG cells if I'm not mistaken. That's why they last longer in a wider temperature scale than Samsung cells.
Good to know.. thanks!
www.bspci.com check it out @@joeframer9642
The only thing Dewalt really made was the radial arm saw EVERTHING else is a rebranded Black and Decker
I've had the 20v Ryobi impact driver, drill, sawsall, and circular saw I bought in a kit for like 150 with 2 Batteries. This set has been Great to me, use em almost daily and I've definitely not been nice to them. They've never let me down and if they all failed today, I'd have still gotten my money out em multiple times.
I won't lie, I've seen DeWalt tools do some amazing things, but I've been a Milwaukee guy for a long time. I watched another video pinning the Hercules impact against a DeWalt impact, and the DeWalt overheated many times, which made it fail in most of the testing. This might have to do with the placement of the MOSFETs and heat sinks (I'm not that technical, but I find it all interesting), but facts are facts. I've had my Milwaukee's stolen from work twice, so I think I'm going to keep those at home and go buy some Hercules for work.
Stealing a man's tools he uses to provide for his livelihood is one of the most dispicable acts à person can do. Torcherring animals and molesting children are worse but after that not too many things are.
I just got a Hercules drill for Christmas and so far I love it. My previous drill was a Hitachi I had for a long time. The Hercules drill is quick, smooth, and capable. All for the fair price of $100. Can't beat that.
I just bought my Hercules drill a month ago and I've built 30 pools with it and i still love it. Update on yours?
You get what you pay for. If you buy cheap tools, eventually they will let you down. Why do you think that most professionals use Milwaukee or DeWalt?
So do you know Mr Bear? Is Hercules a Harbor freight owned brand? Or a separate company? Or are all the brands in Harbor freight all Harbor freight owned in house brands? I guess some items with multiple item #s come from different factories. Like Harbor freight puts it up for bid each year to see who will give the best price to mfg. I know hf is pretty much a factory direct to the store place but didn't know if the factories design the stuff and own the trademarks and patents and sell to hf. Or if hf designs and owns everything and contracts the factories to build the tools. Or a mix depending on the brand name.
Hercules is an HF house brand. As far as I know, all products sold at HF are house brands. China is not big on patents but I can tell you that other tools at HF, like the drill master brands, are designed by the factory and then just rebranded for HF. This is called white boxing or Private Labeling. I do know that the new prosumer lines were developed in-house at HF at their US offices. They literally decided who was the top maker in each market and then hired away people from those teams. As I said, when you have enough cash you can literally just hire talent.
@@denoftools thank you for the info and all your replies Mr Bear! I ❤ 🐻's channel!
A recruiter approached me for a position at HF a couple three years ago. The position was for developing professional (probably actually prosumer tools we are seeing now) grade tools and I was told it wouldn't be a design position but rather bringing in overseas company's products and putting them through an appropriate testing program which whomever was in this position would create. Basically setting the performance the tool would have to meet and teaching their overseas suppliers how to meet it. I was told there wasn't any US based design work. Now the test programs and demanding improvements and saying what those are is part of the development process but that's what HF does in CA, not actually designing the product. This process was also on their website at the time so it's not like I my inside baseball here is all that special, more of confirmation of what everyone already knew.
@@drivecam101 thanks for the info!
hell no man they just buy everybody else tools take them apart and copy them change a little thing here and there and go to the public and say here you go see what we made
AvE' has a two-track mind: engineering and sex. I only watch for his colorful use of language.
You forgot about beer
I'm tired of his potty month. It does not add anything to his reviews.
@@danr1920 My own AvE watching has undergone 3 stages:
1) Wow, this guy knows a lot about plastic and mosfets and stuff! Cool...
2) The sailor's Shakespeare,
3) Boring....(don't watch).
Российский робот, great...maybe you can translate, because Incan’t understand what the hell he‘ saying about half the time.
BOLTR! The bare sounds like he is paid by the hazard freight!
I watched both videos out of curiosity due to your description. Your vid description states "He knocks the choice of neodymium magnets, totally ignores that massive yoke it's installed in and then again makes idiotic claims about temperatures."
He called the yoke beefy at 13:11 and a nice heavy ring at 13:49, that was about the only
I'm sorry but I guess I have an overdeveloped sense of honor/responsibility. If I got it that wrong in a video I'd either post a correction or take the other video down. Probably both. "
So......
As a tech, it is amazing how many times the pure "engineering" folks get it nearly right.
We've probably got 20 or so DeWalt drills at work, for all the mechanic's use and I can't remember how many times you slap a battery in there and because parts of the plastic are broken, the whole battery falls out while you're using it. So, the cheapness of the plastic DOES matter. I have a pretty big say, in the tools and whatever else we buy at work; but, the problem is, we're limited from who we can order from: Grainger, Snap-On, McMaster. I'll have to see about buying outside our normal channels.
Watch both channels religiously...ought to be interesting.
This Harbor Freight video about the tool quality issue reminds me of when H. Ross Perot was for a short time back in the 90's, on the General Motors board of directors.
At that time he recognized just how bad the product quality was at GM. He said the company should focus on making things better one step at a time and not through some kind of huge unmanageable program that would only fail. He was on the board for a short time and left but history shows that GM continued in its old ways and faltered eventually into bankruptcy.
It appears to me that Harbor Freight is taking Mr. Perot's advice and improving its products one at a time to become on par with the quality of the most popular mainstream tool products and even in some cases, exceeding them. Also, the Harbor Freight store concept is a real winner for many of the reasons Mr. Bear has pointed out in his other videos. I have one 10 miles away from me and my area is also serviced by a Lowes and Home Depot. I have been shopping Harbor Freight more frequently and really like visiting their store and finding what I need. I am developing confidence in their products built by my own experience with them, as it should be.
Too funny but I was thinking the same thing. Just imagine what this country would have been like if we had elected him!
Well done and thank you for your critique! Reminds me of the HF extreme xt 1/2 pneumatic impact and the SO pt850. $140.00 vs. $590.00. and almost to a person they stated that there is "no way" HF is better or comparable to the SO...... until you used the HF!
Some folks are still in denial !
Bought the Hercules Drill and Driver, they are good for home use but I killed both of them with normal use. Clutch broke on the drill while using a .5” spade bit through oak stump, the impact started smoking during same job but with a 5/8” spade. Both my very old Porter Cable impact and M18 have done 2-300 stumps with those bits (stump removal) and still work like new.
Fair enough test.. And I will agree. in this comparison.. The HF drill wins.. BUT... The Dewalt you are pinning it against. Is the absolute bottom go in their drill line up. So.. Yes.. If you want a home gamer drill. I'd say you should certainly consider the HF. But if you want a drill that will absolutely destroy the Hercules.. Any of the Brushed XR Dewalts would be the better choice.
It's not the bottom, they have one or two below this. That said, the Herc isn't a brushless model either. So we are keeping apples to apples.
So, if you spend a lot more $, then you can get a slightly better drill?
John Handcock Last time I looked.. The Hercules line was only moderately cheaper than comparable Dewalt and Milwaukee tools.. Tack on their extended warranty and you're real close in price. And only slightly better?? You're welcome to you own opinion. But from my experience(And it's pretty extensive) Harbor Freight tools have very poor longevity. I've owned a few in my day.ive also ended up returning several because they stopped working. look.. If you're happy with buying Harbor Freight tools.. Great! I prefer to spend money on tools manufactured by companies that are willing to stand behind their products for more than 90 days... That warranty says all I need to know about the quality of their tools.
@@johnhandcock3242 At the end of AvE's video the reasons he gave for not recommending the Hercules drill had nothing to do with how the drill did in his torture tests. He compared Hercules's 90 day warranty to DeWalt's 1 year. He pointed out that the Hercules comes with a useless blow mold case that a lot of people (myself included) throw away as soon as the warranty expires because they are too big and cumbersome, compared to the canvas tool bag that came with the DeWalt that you can very easily add other tools or supplies to. I know people who throw away those blow mold cases as soon as they open the package, regardless of brand. He also said that by the time you buy a second battery for the Hercules, you are just about 10 Canadian dollars cheaper than the DeWalt, which comes with 2 batteries. He admits to not liking DeWalt at all in many of his videos. Just on warranty alone, the few extra dollars makes a big difference, add in HF's false advertising, and at least for me, it's a slam dunk.
If you are unaware of what I mean by HF's false advertising...........in HF's flyer, they compare the Hercules to the DeWalt. Look on the back of the cardboard box on the Hercules, where they compare this drill to "the competition" and put an asteric there as well. Then look at the bottom of that same box and you will see that by "the competition", Hercules is referring to a different model Hercules drill. Hercules is not responsible for HF's advertising practices, but when the sole retailer of a product is false advertising that product, and they do nothing about it............that speaks more than just volumes to me.
The tool bear is it a virtual reality avatar, or is it your own creation. I enjoy the iformatinal aspect of your media, especially since I'm in the early stages of setting up my shop. Power tool line up shopping, leaning towards kobalt as I already have there 1/2 impact.
Give me free stuff and I’ll say whatever you want to. “The Ford Focus is WAY better than a Lamborghini! Motor Trends got it WRONG!” (both cars given to me free by Ford with the understanding I shill their product)
What's it like to be born without any morals or ethics? there's a difference between you and me I didn't just say it I showed it too bad you can't say the same.
The Den of Tools You’re the one making bias sponsored shill videos for a living homie, I just made a joke about doing the same thing as you. Good thing you see how unethical it is tho. It’s crazy how you made a video questioning the morals of AvE for giving his (not sponsored) opinion on a tool, then the same video is a sponsored shill vid made in collaboration with the company that sells one of the products you where “comparing”. Now you’re questioning my morals for making a joke about the exact same thing you do. You questioned the morals of AvE for not taking down his video. By your own standards, you need to take down your entire channel and run to the nearest church and pray to god for forgiveness for misleading people for free stuff / money.
Remember when Honda 1st came out with the Honda "Fun Car?" I do, it looked like an over sized shoe, and if you were a pretty beefy guy and you stuck your arm out to to use a hand signal, you might tip the whole car on it's side! Yeah people used to laugh at those things. No one is laughing at Honda now. They arguably make some of the finest cars, motorcycles and lawnmowers on the market.
Sounds like you took it a bit personally , and I don’t think AVE ever claimed to be an expert guess I missed that in all of his videos.
I vaguely remember AVE's video on these two drills. From what I remember, the factor that gave the win to dewalt was that it came with two batts instead of one and if you bought a second battery for the herc, you were paying the same amount of money. Also, dewalt makes a ton of other tools that work with those batteries so until herc makes a bunch of other tools to go with those batteries, most people will probably prefer the dewalt.
As far as quality goes, let's face it, these tools are starting become copies of each other. I don't think there is much of a difference between a lot of these things anymore. Herc's best potential customer are dudes who never owned drills n stuff before.
Yes, the lack of other tools is an issue. If you saw my community section you will see the pic of upcoming tools. There is about 20 or so. More for the Bauer line. The battery comparison is a joke though. The DW comes with anemic 1.5Ah vs the 2.5Ah of the Herc and as per my test you will need both of those DW to come close to one Herc battery.
Real Tool Reviews compared the dewalt and Makita to the Hercules by drilling holes into a wooden board. The hercules constantly drilled holes without struggle longer than the other tools with similar battery packs.
The dewalt came in second and the Makita actually was the worst of the bunch.
People can call you a shill but it doesn't help when someone else independently of you actually tested it instead of breaking it down and guess about it.
Actually, the Dewalt came in last, as far as holes per amp hour of the battery in his test. I like his channel but his speech cadence makes me feel like I'm watching PBS.
@@denoftools Speed up the video speed rate. Not only does it go faster but it's hilarious to hear him.
AvE actually did 2 videos where he torture tested the same Hercules drill, and it DID NOT FAIL in either video. He then load tested the battery (in the first video) and it did not stand up to his test, but on the other hand, it did stand up to Red Beard's test. Both tests were reasonable with different results. AvE has a much bigger axe to grind with HF for their deceptive advertising practices than he does with some of the tools they sell. He is also quick to mention in many of his videos his very strong dislike for DeWalt. I honestly think he likes the Hercules drill a lot more than anything with the DeWalt name on it.
Even just looking at the chuck on Harbour Freight's website, you can see it's a quaity piece, all metal, nice grippy looking grip and robust looking. Another site did a review on it, called toolcraze or something, found it on Google. And they pretty much had the same things to say. That it has a few upgrades over the DeWalt D780 and that it's a fine tool. Nothing better about the Dewalt, overall. This has happened before with a lot of upstarts, like you said, yeah.
I will never buy into hurc or bauer iv already sold my soul to Milwaukee
They do make some great tools!
I like the turquoise tools, Mikita, I think they make the best hand tools next to Hilti and Festool. Sure, you pays a little more, but you get what you pay for. Milwaukee has gone to junk, won't buy again. Still have my Hole Shooter and Hole Hog from '92. They don't make 'em like they used to.
I’m guilty of that too lol
I had a whole Makita set and loved it but then I got my Milwaukee’s and I’m never going back
Awww that's funny . I had a great deal on some Milwaukee tools for the black Friday deals . But since I barely would have used them I went the cheaper brushed Bosch route .
Buckeye925 are you talking about the new brushed Milwaukee’s or the fuel? I have brushless Bosch, dewalt, and Milwaukee and the Milwaukee’s are my favorite by far.
i will say we got the hercules at work once "they were used to mix buckets of wood fill putty" and it died pretty quickly about 2 months, just stopped one day. we now use a DeWALT and that once seems to be holding up longer, the herc did seem to have more power and mix better which was really nice but it did not seem to hold up. now my guess after watching both your reviews in it was a fault in the switch not the motor but just my personal experience.
youre a good enough reviewer to not have to "cite" another channels name specifically. that, by default, sidesteps the drama you said you believed in avoiding in the first sixty seconds of the vid. good luck with your channel, always good to have a variety of alternative opinions around.
Oh my God an imperfect human!
Citing the channel allows people wh do not live on you tube to find the segment that it is commenting on. Saying one does not like the drama is acknowledging respect for the other channel. A bit like bowing mutually before a match.
yet the herc still only comes with a 90 day warranty, that shows how much they stand behind the product.
Id say you should tell us how much you get paid and by who to do your videos as it always seems your all for HF, I havent seen 1 video where you dislike any of their tools
How many Dewalt tools do you have?
yours is HF? you are all for HF? two different meanings. Describes what is what CLEARLY.
@@marclaclear6628 if you were to hire a contractor to remodel your kitchen and he showed up with all harbor freight tools whats your first thought? I wouldn't hire someone who didn't invest in their tools because the proper tools dictate the quality of the job
@@stevenbryant4718 hf is harbor freight
@@jimmyscustomaudio That's up to you. I don't care what tools they use.
So do they sell these on Europe or should I go for the LIDL 20V line?
“HeY looK DeWalT doEn’t GlAss FibRe! iT evEn SouNds DifFerEnt WhEn i HiT Funny how you pointed that out without going into it further. The Dewalt isn’t the same material just without glass fibre, it’s a different material all together. The Hercules is presumably using Glass Filled Nylon, the Dewalt is using Polycarbonate. They’re very different materials with different properties. Polycarbonate is also incredibly durable (they make bullet proof glass with it) and isn’t as brittle in cold conditions as GF Nylon is. Now sure, we could go further into the material qualities of Polycarbonate (or particularly Dewalt’s blend) and compare it to the material qualities, but suffice to say that saying “it’s better because it has glass fibre” isn’t an answer. Learn what your talking about yourself before you criticize people for doing the same
mos 8541 the uppy-downy type of post is meant as a mocking tone.
mos 8541 using uppy downy text to show a mocking tone is an Internet thing. He was mocking what 🐻 guy hitting both drills with a screwdriver and for some reason using that as a point of comparison, and what 🐻 said at 52:13 about the Harbor Freight drill having glass fiber in it and the Dewalt not having any, then saying that somehow meant the Dewalt was inherently worse without then explaining that they are both made out of entirely different materials that both have their own pros and cons.
I don’t remember hearing anything about the case saying it was polycarbonate. I’m pretty sure it said nylon. Yes his tests weren’t scientific but he knows that. I doubt any tool would have a polycarbonate clamshell.
Ethanos that particular drill is made of PC-PBT, which is an alloy of polycarbonate and polybutylene terephthalate
But how does it compare to a Milwaukee? I lost my milwaukee drill for a few weeks and ended up finding it in my yard, rained on a few times, half burried in dirt, and it still works. (not as good as new, I think some stuff got rusty in it not as smooth as it was new, but still gets the job done) and that was a year ago and its still going.
You’re a harbor freight shill so....I sure don’t see any construction crews running harbor freight “Hercules” drills or harbor freight anything!
I don't know too many people casually inspecting worksites to see what kind of tools they use. You must be one of those day laborers out there getting $7/HR.
Only issue I have with this test is yeah it’s a great simple test but it puts almost no strain on the tool. When you drill holes or run screws in (which is what the tool is designed for, not pumping water) it puts way more load on the tool and therefore more heat. Which is where you want the extra power of the four brushes, the bigger fan, the higher heat resistance magnets, the higher heat resistance plastic, etc. I think longevity is the most important thing when buying a tool and the herc/harbor freight just hasn’t proved itself like other brands have.
Interesting video. I would like to see another test with more “load” on the drills. It doesn’t seem like your test puts much load on them. Besides which tool selection is a huge factor . I got out of Bosche because of the lack of selection.
I was thinking the same thing. A constant moderate load is one condition and a load that varies up and down to lock up point is a much different one. Drilling steel in a large diameter comes to mind.
Man these unity engine games be getting weirder and weirder...10/10
If you tear something a part wanting it to be crap then you will find the crap but miss the gold
I was hoping someone would have made this comment. Watch this video where AvE tears apart a Bauer drill expecting to find crap, but found gold...............or did he??? You'll just have to watch and see ua-cam.com/video/M3WB-EwdJnM/v-deo.html
I just watched that video. I get it, everyone wants a cheap tool that's gold but I stopped watching after he opened it up and found the board wasnt epoxy coated. First time it sees water its garbage. My tools see water and all my makita stuff still works fine. The drill in my main kit is 12 years old. Also people dont want these cheap brands either because there isnt a selection of tools to go along with it. Does Hercules have cordless nailers, skill saw, routers, oscillating saws, chainsaws, lawnmowers, line trimmers, grinders, rotary hammers, jobsite radios, work lights, jig saws, drywall guns, cordless aircompressors, table saws or miter saws? If not than its useless to the guy that makes a living with his tools
Please just ignore the drama focus on what you want your channel to be. I still love my 24 year old DeWalt DW106 corded 3/8 drill.
keep up the good work.... Still a little scared of HF stuff but I like the honest look at a product. PS. the bear needs the cigar
The cigar is gone from this channel. It's still on the politics one if I ever remember to post there. But I removed it from here as part of my "family friendly" push. A lot of people like to watch with their cubs and I want to encourage it.
I respect your decision. Personally, think it is too PC for me but that is just one opinion and I will keep watching cause I like your content. Thanks for all that you do.
Allright pappa bear... what pump attachment is that? The fwd/reverse one
I love your channel but taking on AvE bull by the horns. Tread softly my friend
Ben Toombs, what exactly does that mean?
Lmao grow up
NVG, ?
Not you😀
NVG, right on Bro. I actually like the fact that Da Bear was squaring off against AvE. AvE kind of gets on my nerves sometimes, in fact it’s difficult for me to sit through an entire video of his without using my fast forward button. I find the need for a translator program to decipher about half of what he’s saying. Now I feel better 😉...
Well Isn’t it obvious - by using purple and orange containers for the water you clearly skewed the results for the blue drill. Had you used Red and Green containier then I am sure the water would have been much more suitably fluid and the Yellow drill would have done much better. I mean after all - isn’t this just a matter refractive flow resistance via the nuetronian dipolar dye resistance affect. The real problem here is that HF has many many years of bad reputation to try adn overcome. I admit that I have had lots of bad power tool experience in years past and know that it affects my initial impression of anything that comes from them. Right or Wrong - you cant overcome human nature.
Being a contractor for 45 years, HF is the way to go. Yep....disposable but at the price it out weighs all of the big names. HF has stepped up their game while the rest have lived off their old school name. Nothing learned here but looking forward to a pissing contest. Love ya both.
I will need the model number and generation of both drills to make a fair comparison. The DeWalt one looks a bit older and DeWalts biggest issue is heat. Both the tool and the battery gets very hot, and more heat means less efficiency.
you sir, as you always do, handled this with "class" ...thank you for being a steadfast source of honesty & truth... that is why you are my, & alot of other peoples, first & foremost go-to source for trustworthy tool reviews... god bless ya bro & shine on
“Trustworthy” Ha! When I want a review of a tool, I go to someone who actually uses the tool and uses the tool hard. If I want a wrench review, I go to a mechanic who uses the wrench every day. If I was a review on a saw, I go to a carpenter who uses the tool every day. Bottom line, the “tool bear” buys tools to review them. He does not use them. He is not a mechanic nor a carpenter nor anyone who should be a trusted tool review source. Go to someone who actually uses the tool to get a tool review.
@@brandonbarr9849 I have and DeWalt sucks. DeWalt went down hill years ago. It is overpriced now and lasts as long as anything else. I have some Ryobi battery tools over 20 years old still going strong. I use them many times a week. My son is a plumber, has laughed at my Ryobi, has burned through 2 Dewalts and is not a Milwaukee user.
Well this oughta put him over a million and not hurt you either. Good luck to you both. Subbed to you both, and that’s not going to change. Let’s call it a gentleman’s disagreement and call it a day.
I hope this video isn't implying because HFs top line drill beat Dewalts lowest line drill that by some way this is a reflection on either companies quality because I can tell you HF has alot to be ashamed about in the quality category... I am a pro in the trades and I've bought HF and I've bought top line dewalts/milwaukee ect.. I can honestly say anything that takes a power cord or battery from HF is absolute trash(exclude earthquake from that, one exception for some odd reason), I can say this because like you said; I have real world have tested both. HF has left me stranded and hung up on more jobs because of their junk tools I was relying on to complete a job (that was bid on a flat rate) either just completely stopped working, or have actually burnt up& caught fire. Either situation has cost me money being out a tool/having to rebuy it, causing me to go over budget on small jobs and waste my time.
I have slowly replaced every tool I ever bought from HF, and yes I have replaced most all with DeWalt and have yet to be let down or worry about a tool black and yellow makes stop working on me mid-job.. If one did I wouldn't worry too much since the warranty isn't once I leave the store I'm screwed basically-they stand by the product a lot more than HF. There is a reason everyone overpays for DeWalt every day in the box stores, and it's not because of the fancy boxes, it's because they are a trusted reliable brand not self appointed by marketing but earned that reputation from people in the trades over many years. Something HF has squandered¬ even respected since everyone that's ever shopped there can give you a story of their "quality tools" hitting the garbage can.
This is way too long of a post so here is my main point to make 1) HF is for one time projects-the tools they sell are meant to be disposable for the weekend warrior DIY handyman; ex: someone doing trim work or flooring in their primary residence 2) DeWalt are professional tools you own a lifetime and only need replaced out of want, not necessity most of the time-and their tools actually have a resell value even used. They both have their place in this economy and will both deliver equal final products based on the user, but tools are a financial decision and you have to ask yourself where your money is better spent.
Why does everyone make the claim this is DW's lowest level tool. It's not. This is the DCD780C2, and it sells at retail for $200, the Herc sells for $110. The lowest level DW is the DCD771c2 and it sells for $100
I've had Dewalt, makita, Rigid, and lots of others. You can get decent stuff at HF. The Hercules is the evolution of the Pittsburgh "professional" line. I have a couple of the old Dark blue Pittsburgh Tools that have taken the beating, like a worm drive Saw, multi tool/plunge cutter, and sliding compound miter saw, all have been very abused and ridden hard. All my cordless are M18 Fuel, but the Hercules line, which I have used because I have had young and broke people work for me and have had entry-level tools, is no worse than any of the other brushed entry-level tools. Probably a little better. It will keep up with other low and mid tier tools.
I tried to watch Ave's video's, OMG he talks way to much. I can appreciate the sense of humor and he is a knowledgeable person but MY GOD please channel his mouth!
My opinion is, I personally dont like either brand but you keep saying "the dewalt" like they make one model.
Question-
Does this test show either of them drilling 1-1/8 holes in stainless or drilling 2" holes in hard wood?
How about 3/8th holes into a block wall? No then what use is it? At least with AvE you see the inside of a tools and not damn bear and a hour of pumping water.
This is not a test of anything more than battery life. A black and decker from Wally world could do this test with is brushes tied behind it's back. Either way I hope the kids tool reviews works out. Cheers
To answer your question, no I did not do those tests for two reasons. A. Other people have done them and the Herc wins in all of them. (by a lot). B. Those tests are not controlled. Issues raised are: Was one piece of wood softer, were the drill bits as sharp. Did you push harder on one and not on the other. If you want to prove a fact you need to use a test that has as few variables as possible. Water is often used as a baseline in scientific testing as water alway is... well water. It is consistent and unchanging.
As to the second part. I did not want to show all the water tests but you know damn well that if I didn't people would have accused me of faking it. And since it's youtube you can skip it if you want to the second part where I do indeed actually take the tools apart. That fact that you said that "at least ave" did this makes me think you commented without watching the whole video. But that would be silly right?
I think you missed the science involved. This does not test the battery so much that it tests the motor. It's the efficiency of the motor and how it uses that power from the battery that is being tested. It's like if you have two cars with 20 gallon tanks. But one car gets 20mpg and the other gets 40mpg.
And no, the B&D would not be able to do this test. I tried it with the Craftsman and it failed to even pump water.
So you put a brand new drill against a drill that’s been out for 5 years. I love the science behind the tapping with the back of the screwdriver on the clam shell.
I do believe that I said as much.
So I own Matco, Milwaukee and Bauer tools and I gotta say, the Bauer stuff has really held its own for 2+ years in the professional automotive environment. The Bauer impact driver was one of my first power tools purchase in harbor freight and albeit not the strongest, it gotten the job done for me. With that my trust in harbor freight tools grew and I now use their hand tools as well. Really pleased with their stuff and IMO I'd rather head to the harbor freight down the road than wait for the tool truck to come next week.
I have been going to HF since they opened one up here in my city. I have watched them improve their tools over the years and they are getting better and better all the time. I have a lot of their tools now and the higher quality ones I buy from them rarely disappoint. I have no problem with their tools.
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BTW
How does your water pumping test have anything to do with the actual use of these drills?
The actual torque and current drain while drilling a hole is much higher than pumping water up 1ft
You varied your test procedure substantially between the HF trial and the Dewalt. The discharge rest between cycles will substantially favor the HF
The HF drill motor likely is lower powered, will generate substantially less driving torque and so run longer on batteries of similar capacity.
The test, as stated in the video, was to test the efficiency of the motor and battery as per AvE's claim. And there was no deviation in the testing methods between the drills. As to the rest of your comments, that is just assumptions, base on zero knowledge and shows a clear bias. Do some searching around youtube. The Herc has repeated beat the DW in power. Hell in just my teardown you can clearly see that the Herc motor is a better-built motor that will produce more power and run longer. While the XR line of tools from DW are excellent tools the brushed line is junk that is being sold to people who see black and yellow and think it's all the same thing.
Red,
The test procedure changed. For the herc, you pumped from one tank to the other. Stopped. Swapped tanks and then pumped again.
For the Dewalt, you pumped, then flipped the drill direction snd then pumped again. The pause was 1 or two seconds.
Im a 40 year accomplished Design Engineer and R&D Executive. I know a good deal more here than you on this subject.
You could not even structure a proper test. It at bedt tested motor efficiency at loads that are irrelevant, so it proved nothing.
Your blather about design details etc tells me you have no idea what you are talking about.
@@padraicmcguire108 lol, I hope you were a better exec than you were an engineer. If you go back and look you will see that on I ran it both ways on both tools dependant on which battery was being used. BTW, I was C level R&D Exec in Silicon valley. #tryharder
@@denoftools its not about running the motor both ways. It is all about the time delay between the tests. The battery discharge varies with temperature.
I thought I could help you/encourage you to do a better job. Guess not.
And I was hoping I could help you get your facts straight but apparently you're either too dense to try or too stubborn to admit you were wrong. but that's what you get for just skipping through the video and not actually watching it and then making an asinine comment. There were four tests done, two on the DeWalt and two on the Hercules. When I tested the smaller battery on both drills I swapped the jugs. when I tested the larger battery on both drills I just flipped the drill into reverse as you were commenting about. what you missed if I did the same thing with Hercules when it was running the larger capacity battery. I suggest you watch all the testing before making a comment again in fact it's usually better to watch all of the video before making any comments at all.
Good job, but AvE probably won’t even acknowledge this video. I’ve seen both videos the only things on his that stood out was the heat sink for the circuit board. It to me looks like an after thought on HF part and could have been designed better.
The drill accessories is a joke (why bother )
And of course the HF marketing bs I completely agree it’s gotten out of hand now lol
The HF marketing is embarrassing. It's like that friend we all have who tries too hard and you just cringe when you have to introduce him to your work friends. As to the MOSFETs, I actually did a fairly deep dive on this, it also helps I have a good friend who is a chip designer win Silicon Vally and everything I found said that this board is designed perfectly and that the heatsink on it is not only good enough but might be overkill.
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Sorry, I need this comparison done with Ridgid included in the lineup and then a follow-up 4-5 years later. Oh wait the only one that is going to be repaired or replace 100% battery included is Ridgid. If Harbor Freight was serious about this lineup they would switch to a minimum 2-3yr full warranty or even a complete lifetime warranty like Ridgid and brushless technology. Unless you have zero battery power tools it doesn’t make sense to buy into the Harbor Freight line and even in that situation I would recommend Ryobi for variety of tools, price, longevity, and use-ability.
HF sells their warranties ala cart. Imagine if other tools companies did that? And did you see my top ten drill drivers list? I think you might agree with my results.
Already saw your top 10 and didn’t really agree with it, but good points and all around informative nonetheless. Harbor Freights practice of selling a warranty separate is a policy that I feel most people don't appreciate myself included. If it's as good as any other brand(s), including DeWalt, it should last more than 90 days. If it's designed to be better and last at least 2 years, then why should I have to pay an extra $20-$30 incase it's not as good as claimed to be. If its compared to Dewalt then compare it and bundle all the same 1 to 1 and be done.
Still the DeWalt warranty beats it with an additional year warranty over what HF is willing to SELL you and Ridgid just blows them all out of the water with a full lifetime warranty and I personally have both.
So the normal HF price of $110, plus $25ish for 2 years of warranty, plus $30 for a second battery puts you around $165. You save $15-35 and have a tool with a year less warranty and total time on market of less than 2 years. It's going to be a very tough sell to professionals and pro-consumers.
The only way to close this sale to people already bought into other lines is a 2 or 3 year warranty included at the current selling prices. If they could have pulled off having interchangeable working batteries with say Dewalt that would have been a game changer end of story and people would have bought for that reason alone!
@@ClientGraphics I think what Mr Bear was getting at is that other tool companies charge the extra for the warranty like hf does but don't give you an opt out option like hf. $20 or so of the price tag on those big name brands are to pay warranty costs whether you want the warranty or not. Hf sells without the additional warranty price as a default and gives you the option to opt in or walk away with extra $20 or so in your pocket. It be like buying a dewalt at Lowe's and cashiers says for a $20 discount in price we can sell this as is with a voided warranty and no returns. The others have it tacked on by default and hf leaves it off by default.
One thing to point out would be that if you buy the Harbor Freight Hercules drill the chances of it being stolen on the job site or in general are greatly reduced! It also looks like it has a metal chuck where others will have a better price point, warranty, and plastic chuck.
So for $89.00 I can get a RIDGID 18-Volt Lithium-Ion Cordless 1/2 in. Compact Drill/Driver Kit with (2) 1.5Ah Batteries Charger and Bag and lifetime warranty from Home Depot in my area today.
www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-18-Volt-Lithium-Ion-Cordless-1-2-in-Compact-Drill-Driver-Kit-with-2-1-5Ah-Batteries-Charger-and-Bag-R860052K/205690161
@@ClientGraphics Dewalt only offers a 1 year warranty for parts and labor. After that it's only parts, and you have to pay for the labor. You also have to pay to mail it back to them. A one year warranty at HF is just as good as Dewalt's 3 year warranty. Maybe arguably better.
Make no mistake, Dewalt is charging you an amount for that warranty. It's included in the price.
Hf copies the most popular tools on the market and undercuts them in hopes of leaching profit. The den copies the most popular boltr on UA-cam and undercuts him in hopes of leaching viewers. Shameful
dose anyone know why the batteries for the herc are so cheap compared to the DeWalt or Makita
Not to be a dick.....but, you just did the car and drivers test. You know when the magazine "car and driver" takes a brand new vehicle and tests it and says how awesome it is. I'd love car and driver to test that same vehicle after 150k. I want longevity. aVe tests longevity also. He goes through the circuit boards and switches and motors and explains why a certain tool is good or not. He raved about the stubby earthquake pneumatic impact wrench. Hes not brand loyal. He tells it as he sees it. You on the other hand are being paid by harbor freight even if only in free tools. I generally respect your opinion but not this time. As a home gamer, I want a tool that will last 20+ years. I want the upgradeability. I want a huge line up of tools that fit the same battery platform. I want a proven tool. Hercules hasn't been around long enough and I can not justify spending the exact same amount of money on that as I would a Milwaukee brushed or dewalt brushless. And dont get me wrong. I love Harbor freight and most of their stuff. And especially the prices on most of it.
Btw I don't remember what you were testing the drill for? Battery life? Temperatures? Next time just put the intake and discharge hose in the same bucket or bathtub and recirculate. Might be a tad quicker without the monkeying around
No one can sit on a bench and tell you to matter of factly how long a tool will last. Anyone who claims to is lying to you. I've been in product development for over 20 years and I can tell you that is the one single indisputable fact. Even product testing is a guess compared to the real world. And I said quite clearly that I think this particular video was outside the norm for him. But as you said he goes through each and every component and explains them. But in his video on this tool, he either lied or was just flat wrong. The MOSFETs, the Magnets, the Yoke, the Brushes and yes, especially the batteries. Hell, he flat out claimed they were generic cells and not Samsungs. This was not an opinion piece, these are facts that you can go out and look up for yourself. And if you think I'm being paid? How much do you think he made on that video? Do you think it would have nearly 2 Million views if he wasn't absolutely slamming this drill at every turn? And he is brand loyal. Have you ever heard him say a single bad thing about Hilti? Hell, he totally blew a MOSFET on a Milwaukee and never said BOO about it. Yes, he has said good things about HF brands before and I'm not saying he is always wrong. I'm talking about one specif incident.
As to the running from the same tank. I thought about it but then someone would say, "Well the ____ drill was pumping the water faster that is why the battery didn't' last as long time wise". The test was showing how efficient the motor of each drill was and how much "work" you could get from each battery.
I agree that no one can give you a definite whether it will last 20 years or not. I own 2 dewalt 18 volt drills and one of them I've owned 11 years and it's still running. This weekend I bought a huge Milwaukee set and expect it should last equally as long. I'm not against buying Hercules or bauer. The price isn't quite where it needs to be tho. I so far like the bauer. And was extremely close to buying the saw, drill, grinder, impact driver and grinder. But I just couldn't
I own and have bought both Milwaukee and dewalt for the last 15 years. I'm a commercial plumber. I have no choice but to put these tool through the toughest jobs and I have to say that all these new power tools are not made to last 10-20 years! Just last long enough till there next generation, new latest and greatest is out! I believe that this new drill from Hercules is better than the dewalt drill that you compared it with. But that is a new Hercules drill and model, the dewalt shown is very out dated. The new dewalt dcd996 is one the be reckoned with. I really love Milwaukee's 5yr warranty and can vouch that they try their best to keep you satisfied! I really like dewalt tools but they are the worst for standing behind there tools! Aside from there BS. 1yr warranty they will find any reason to tell you that you voided your warranty! After all the tools I have bought from dewalt they sure did disappoint me
@@nicholasbrown6481 dude some people just don't have the fore sight or the smarts for a closed system test ;-)
In 2016 I purchased the Hercules Hammer/Drill and as of today this sucker is SPOT-ON! Working construction means it's not hanging pictures and never let me down. The cost was $109.00 (with case) and if I lost it I'd buy it again.
54:04 "I was talking to the engineers over at harbor freight..." you sure they were engineers? You sure they weren't sales weasels?
lol, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between a sales weasle and well, everyone else.
Why am I watching a computerized bear? Bye...
Who the hell wants to watch emptying all these jugs!!! Use some common sense!!! I'm done!!!
Yeah because who cares about physics or science or control testing
Why not just reverse the drill to send the water in the other direction? Was the pump a one way pump?