I was born to Catholics. I went to 8 years of Catholic School. I however at the age of 25 realized I NEVER read the Bible tho I claimed to believe it. So I started reading a King James Version a friend gave me. I told my husband we won’t change religion I just want to be closer to God. I got to Exodus & God said he is a jelous God & not to have images of anything in the heavens & not to bow down to them ….hmmm at my wedding I had to bow down in front of a statue of Mary & pray to her! I had statues in my house. I read call no man father but your father in heaven. I read have No mediator between you & god except Christ. So not the priest in the confessional?? It said Do not pray in vain repetition & gave an OUTLINE for prayer the our father so the rosary?? That I repeat ‘ repeat & repeat? Then in scripture someone said. Praise the womb you came from to Christ but Christ responded NO & pointing to the crowd said you are my mother & you my brother & you my sister. So no praising Mary? She is just a blessed woman. WOW as a Catholic this is news to me. Then to find out after Christ she was no longer a virgin Christ had brothers & sisters!! Joseph & Mary had children. After reading all of that. The entire Bible reading it. I knew it was either follow the tradition of men or is God the inerrant word of God. Yes J picked God & left the Catholic faith. I also prayed for the dead as a Catholic. Heck we had masses for the dead to pray them into heaven. When you are dead? It’s done. Absent from the body present w/ the Lord for those who are saved & Christ surely said you must be born again & Roman 6 explains dying to yourself & coming alive for Christ & Paul says do we continue in sin so that grace may abound certainly not!! To me Roman 6 sums up Baptism & the symbolism of Dying with Christ & yes as an adult I chose a Christian baptism out of obedience to God. A baby can’t chose. I took all the statues in my house & began boxing them to give my sisters who are still Catholic. Then it came on me it’s not good for you it’s not good for them. Throw them out & in that moment it was revealed of course God was right!!! As much as Zi said these religious statues of Mary & Jesus are just to remind me to keep me thinking of God but in the moment of tossing them I knew of course God is right bcz I felt like it was sacrilege throwing those objects away. So obviously they meant more to me then they should have. They are not little gods they are ceramic!!! Yes I was indeed glad I threw them out that was right. My children were 3 & newborn when I came to Christ & I raised them in the church & they married Christians & home school. I have been so very blessed. God did call me & delivered me from being a Catholic. I loved Jesus but I didn’t know Jesus & in my Catholic faith I had to be good to be saved. It was very works based. Jesus said it is finished & indeed it was or he died for nothing !! I know looking back that I was dead in that religion, in spite of that God called me to know him by knowing his word. I am humbled by his Grace & so unworthy. In Christ though I am made whole. In Christ , being washed in his blood I have eternal life !!!
My husband is catholic by inheritance. He doesn't read the bible or go to church. I'm a Jehovah witnesses but I have started to lose faith in this community. I'm starting to realized that we are not different than the rest. The only thing that we differentiates us is that we don't believe in the trinity. I want to go and experience for myself what is like in other christian communities. But it's really hard for me to let go of the non-trinitarian believe. We decided to start going to mass on Sundays. But I feel very anxious. I know in my heart catholics have many traditions and I'm not sure if I can convert and still not follow all their traditions. Kinda like doing my own thing you know. If I know something is not biblical, I can choose to not participate. But then, I could pretty mu h do the same elsewhere😔😏😒🙏
@@SalvarezP if I could offer one reason why you are losing faith, in these religions is exactly because of the fact that they are religions. There is only one genuine way, and it's the way of salvation through Jesus Christ. Being a Christian is not a religious denomination, it's the faith. Salvarez, I'm here to encourage you in the truth of the gospel. Jesus Christ is alive today, He dwells within born again believers. An encounter with Christ changes everything. It's spiritual and it's more than religion. The real Jesus Christ is the one we encounter, and if you call on Him and Him alone, He will save you and He will respond. The fabrications of religion keep people in bondage and they become spiritually dead. Ma'am, if you look at it through the lense of religion, it will be easy to lose faith because it's not anchored in the foundations of Christ. Seek Jesus for yourself, read the gospel for yourself believe in Him and Him only, cry out to him be honest where you're at ask him to help you and I promise you he will answer. I promise you. Thousands of testimonies exist in the name of Jesus, people being saved, salvation itself is a beautiful gift and it's real and I want to to know it's bigger than religion, it's relationship, it's not about works, ma'am that's what makes it genuine, not religion. Seek Jesus for yourself, believe in Him, believe that He is. Ma'am that's where the birth happens, faith in Christ saves. I promise if you seek Him, you call on His name. He will find you, I promise. Don't let Satan and the religion and even opinions of loved ones try to change you for doing other wise. I know you're confused, scared and tired, but I promise you, Jesus is bigger and so much more than all this, and yes it's something you can have and it's not earned. I promise. Call out to Jesus, call out to him, with your heart. Be honest with Him but trust Him, even if it's as small as a mustard seed. God loves you and wants you to know the Truth, His love and mercies and grace are legit, have faith in God, not the people. I will be praying for you, God bless you and remember, He loves you and wants you to know that, Jesus wants your whole heart.. don't be convinced by the counterfeits, Jesus saves and He's the real deal. Call out to Him ❤️
This is true. We first have to be made "good trees" (saved) in order to bear "good fruit" (good works) (Mt. 12:30). But faith without works is dead. Jesus cursed the fig tree that failed to bear fruit in its season. If we claim to be born-again Christians, we will produce good works as naturally as a good tree bears fruit. If we do not bear fruit, the ax is laid to our roots and we are thrown into the fire (Matthew 3:10).
Justice: Getting what you deserve. (as in: punishment) Mercy: Not getting what you deserve. (punishment withheld) Grace: Getting what you don't deserve. (as in: a blessing) Grace does not equal Merit (having earned something). The Bible talks about Merit in Romans 6:23 - "The WAGES of sin is death,...". That is all we merit. But God gives Grace, Hallelujah!
@@harleymann5711 Taken out of context, perhaps. For example, those verses say, "but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good", but the Bible says that there are None who do good. It also says, "He will render to each one according to his works", but we've "all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God," and "there is none without sin." So we'll all go to Hell, if there is no grace. Read those verses literally and out of context, and there is no such thing as mercy or grace, only justice, i.e., getting what we deserve. But we all deserve Hell! Everything must be read in context, my friend. :)
59:25 This hit me really hard. I’m a protestant at a catholic conference right now and they have been trying to convert me. 2 guys who genuinely believe what they say have been saying things about the catholic church that made sense in isolation, but after this video it solidified my faith in Christ alone! Thank you Mike!
"The gospel is extremely complicated" in Catholicism. Yes. I was raised Catholic and began drifting away because of the weight of "the rules." The balance scales are a heavy burden, you can't win. Then The Jesus People (from the Jesus Revolution in San Diego) came to town and I heard the gospel in its simplest terms. I could hardly believe it. I was floored. And I received it. Never looked back. It's 53 years later and I am still growing in the grace and knowledge of God, forever grateful for what Jesus did on the cross. Thank you for this excellent exegesis.
The gospel message is to repent and believe, this is what is taught in catholicsm I should know I’m catholic and find it simple enough I’m only average intelligence,ish 😊
@@toneyh1 I don't think you're listening to your own church. You can do so much more for your salvation in Catholicism, including engaging on the vatican's social media (see the vatican decree made for World Youth Day special indulgences). The vatican can flippantly grant pardon from punishment like this, making a mockery of Jesus' cross, and using false authority to promote their own events and activities. Repenting and believing has never been enough in the Catholic church.
@@estherdavis4802 you may not think that. And protestants love you and rejoice with you. Get your church surely does teach salvation by works. That’s why you need to earn indulgences and pray to dead people to pray to God for you. In the true good news of the Christian way Christ Jesus does everything for you even giving you a new heart which brings you closer to Him and to other believers.
@@christineploeg1992 YOU = your ( Catholic ) church surely does teach salvation by works. ME = .Sadly, Protestants have gotten their doctrines totally wrong. Despite claiming " Sola Scriptura " meaning that the Bible is their sole authority, they have based their doctrines on just 2 " cherry-picked " and non-Gospel ( meaning not the Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke & John ) verses that of Romans 10:9 and Ephesians 2:8-9. Protestants should be basing their doctrines on the 4 Gospels which the Heavenly Father sent Jesus to be as well as to teach us the Way, Truth and Life back to The Father and which are essentially TOUGH LOVE messages =If you love Me, keep My Commandments, especially the Love of God and neighbour, even enemies. Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24. Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matt. 4. Jesus dismissed Satan because Christianity is the way of the Cross. Moreover, Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25 and declared that the final Judgement is based on Works of Mercy = Matthew 25. Even Paul, like a faithful Christian= boasted =of the Cross -Galatians 6:14, Moreover, God has - expectations - and requires - MORE - from Christians because we have the perfect example of Jesus - Luke 12:48 Catholics believe that Jesus came down from Heaven to pay the penalty of Adam's sin which closed Heaven's gates and placed " Original Sin " on all Adam's descendants - you & me. " It is finished " was Jesus' cry of mission accomplished and that Heaven's gates were now opened. And Baptism is a one-time = grace = event that washes away all our past sins, but we are still responsible for all sins afterwards. This is exampled by God's " execution " of Ananias & Sapphira from the 1st Christian = Faith = community for just dishonesty and lying just = after = Jesus' heavenly ascent = Acts 5. The importance of Works as well as sacramental Confession, Holy Communion and Mass. =========================================================================== Because He was going away, Jesus empowered His Apostles to forgive sins = or = retain them = John 20:22-23. Moreover, Jesus declared that His Flesh & Blood was = Real = food & drink = for Eternal Life = John 6:53-58. And the 1st Christian Faith community = devoted themselves to the Apostles teaching, to the breaking of Bread and The Prayers = Acts 2:42 = which has evolved into the Catholic Mass. Moreover, Jesus urged Prayer, Fasting & Almsgiving and Good Works which are rewarded by The Father who sees in secret = Matthew 6. On the other hand, Protestants believe that Jesus' death on the cross satisfied for all sins, past, present and future. If that was the case there would be = NO DEVILS, the Other Thief on the Cross would also be promised paradise, and the Heavenly Father would not need to chastise and scourge = every = child before admitting them into Heaven = Hebrews 12:6. And By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, Protestants have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity. Jesus declared that Faith was the means by which He was able to perform miracles especially of healing = Your Faith has made you well ! However, for salvation, it is Faith + Works = James 2:14 = especially that of LOVE of God & neighbour, even enemies. Protestants beware !!! Your salvation is at stake. Kindly heed God's Tough Love messages. Remember, outside Catholicism there is NO salvation
Amen, brother. We all do! God bless you and keep you, the LORD look upon you and be gracious to you, the LORD make His face to shine upon you and give you peace. I pray that God will strengthen you to know, if you are in Jesus (I trust that you have put your trust in Jesus alone for your salvation), just more and more the dimensions of the love of God for us who are in Christ. Amen.
You have spoken the truth in love Mike. I was raised in the Catholic church but walked out when I was 12 and Jesus Christ found me at 23. It has been 46 yrs of continuing adventure, exciting growth & joy in spite of some hard things. All praise & glory to God because of Jesus Christ our Lord & Saviour.
At 12 yrs. YOU walked out of YOUR Father's House and found adventure. At 12 yrs. Jesus was found in His Father's House and said , " I must be about My Father's business", and loved us to death.........see Luke 2: 49.
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy..........Could be !!! It is also one of the sacraments that the RCC teaches..........the sacrament of Confirmation. It is also the fifth of the Joyful Mysteries of the Rosary.
@@kylemcdonough9830 most Protestants are reminded of how their ancestors were burnt at the stake by an all powerful Roman Church. So have mercy on them too. It’s also not about ignorant Catholics as much as the system they are in.
I was a Catholic for 22 years and realised I was a sinner and didn't know Jesus whatsoever! I gave my life to Christ and now I just walk with God and build my relationship with God through reading his beautiful word! I have been born again! John 6:29
Unbelievable !!! So who do YOU think the confessional was for ??? Sorry that YOU were not taught that the RCC is the hospital for sinners and Jesus is the Divine Healer.
"I have been born again! " You were Born Again scripturally when you were baptized. "didn't know Jesus whatsoever!" Sounds like you never took time to learn your faith. I suspect you seldom went to Mass, where you received his Resurrected Body and Blood in the Eucharist, a means for receiving his Grace. So too, a relationship with him, instituted by HIM, that no protestant has.
If God is not the author of confusion, then tell me exactly what someone must believe to be a Protestant. Sola Scriptura? Methodists do not believe this Sola Fide? Lutherans reject this If all I need to do is profess that Jesus is Lord, well Jesus Himself rejects this claim (Matthew 7:21) Jesus also prayed that His Church should be one as he is one with the Father, yet you have various denominations preaching things that are contradictory on things like Baptism and the Eucharist, so to what extent should I stop listening to Lutheranism and start listening to Calvinism? If is just whatever I say is true, than am I not placing myself over Scripture? I feel like Sola Scriptura in practice devolves into what I have termed "Sola Me-de" that the individual decides what Scripture means, because there is no singular correct interpretation that is taken to be authoritative. Does Christ speak with one voice or over 180 (an estimate of the number of Protestant denominations)? I think all the Protestant denominations that exist are pretty confusing don't you?
@@alexanderkaufman3575methodists and Lutheran’s are not the standard. The Bible is the standard. As for your objections. Don’t quote parts of verses. You must confess and believe in your heart that Jesus is lord to be saved. It has to be real. And make no mistake, the church of Jesus Christ IS one!! We from every nation and denomination agree on 99.9% and we do so without threatening eachother with anathemas !! That’s only you guys who curse the people of God.
@@alexanderkaufman3575 these things are elementary. So study your Bible and stop looking to corrupt institutions of mankind for your final authority. Especially cults like the Roman Catholic ’church’.
Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24. Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matthew 4. Jesus also rebuked Peter as Satan when Peter tried to dissuade Jesus from His path of sufferings and death. And Jesus did not take the sour wine offered to Him whilst on the Cross to deaden the pain. And Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25. ==== Christian Rule of Thumb is that if anything is hard/difficult, it is from God. On the other hand, if it is -easy - it is from the devil ======== The fact is that there are Catholics who leave the Faith because they say it has too many rules and regulations. Of course, they don't realize it is that rules and regulations are like Commandments which were God issued so that these create a boundary beyond which the devil like a roaring is prowling about seeking somebody to devour. On the other hand, Protestantism has no rules and regulations, no requirements and only promises - Easy Christianity and cheap Grace. List of - Hard - Facts = Commandments - Love God and Neighbour, including Enemies; God's Testing; Strive to enter Heavenly narrow gates for Few will enter - Mat. 7:14 & Luke 13:23-24; Confess to another - John 20:22-23; Eat My Flesh, drink My Blood - Real Food - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58; Jesus' Parables requiring the multiplication o Talents, becoming more fruitful "soil," wise "virgins" carrying oil, etc.; Vengeance is Mine, I will repay; Fasting, Prayer and Almsgiving = Rewarded by the Father who sees in secret - Matthew 6. Jesus urged the necessity of praying always - Luke 18:1. Thus Catholics have adopted the responsibility of praying for others, just as Jesus urged Peter to pray and thereby strengthen the others - Luke 22:32. List of - Easy - Facts = With Faith alone, one is saved and name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, never to be erased; God's Commandments and Testing have been overtaken by Jesus' sacrifice and covered with His Precious Blood. Thus the Guarantee - Absent in the Flesh, present with the Lord, forever; The 4 Gospels were meant for the - lost - people of Israel. Now there is a new covenant in the Blood of the Lamb which means - Once Saved, Forever Saved; Works are unnecessary for Salvation and are boastful; Marriages that end in - easy - divorce and remarriages. What is the Gospel Message ?? The 4 books of the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are titled - The Gospel - according to Matthew / Mark / Luke / John. This was the same Gospel message revealed to Paul by Jesus - Galatians 1:12 - which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus and which Paul proclaimed - verbally - on his missionary journeys. Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with, as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to and to whom he had previously preached - verbally - the Gospel. Besides, 2 of Paul's letters have gone missing - see 1 Cor. 5:9 and Col. 4:16 Common sense would therefore dictate that we place our doctrines and belief systems first and foremost on these Gospels, and keep everything else secondary. This is because our Salvation is the most important question we will ever face. It is thus obvious that these Epistles are way-down secondary to the 4 Gospels which Jesus brought from the Heavenly Father's mind and heart for our Salvation. Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead - of the 4 Gospels. They have created doctrines that require no Confession as per Jesus' formula, denial of the - Real Presence - of Jesus in Holy Communion, and the need for Good Works despite that the Great Judgement is based on Works - Matthew 25. By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, they have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity. Yet even Paul, like a faithful Christian, boasted of the Cross -Galatians 6:14, Will they be raptured ? Will they be saved.?
Has there ever been a storm where by the intercession of Mary has been quelled? Or is by your faith in God? However you live your life are you more deserved heaven than the man who Jesus saved who was crucified next to him?
Have you figured anything out? I feel the same. Raised in a Catholic family but just now learning what it means to be Catholic and it’s making me question everything.
Born and raised Catholic. Went to a Protestant church on the North Shore of Oahu. First time I heard the Bible taught. They were reading from the gospel of John Chapter One. The Holy Spirit opened my heart when I heard John’s gospel read. I then researched Catholicism and never went back. I’m so thankful for God opening my heart to receive the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
At every Mass the OT prophesies are read, followed by a psalm of longing; then we stand for the NT fulfillment of Jesus. Don't know how YOU never heard the Bible. Enjoy YOU Protestant Church, for there is where God wants YOU for now.
At EVERY Catholic Mass scriptures read or sung today's is First Reading Acts 14:5-18, Responsorial Psalm, Psalms 115:1-4, 15-16, Gospel John 14:21-26 Yesterdays>>>First Reading Acts 9:26-31, Second Reading 1 John 3:18-24, Gospel John 15:1-8
Are you serious!? You must have fallen asleep for the Liturgy of the Word then, or just never went to a Catholic Mass. I find it impossible to believe you NEVER hear the Bible as a Catholic. It just does not check out.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l You claim the church reads these scriptures, but none of them support many of the doctrines that the Catholic Church claims. It's one thing to say you read the Bible. It's another thing to understand and interpret it correctly.
I think you could have a great, thought provoking conversation with Michael Knowles (of the DailyWire), he's a very intellectual Catholic on top of his political commentary
Michael Knowles is great. Klavan is my favorite, but Knowles is MUCH more in touch with where we are and what we need to do to help recover morality. I disagree that he'd be good for Winger to talk to, though. When Knowles is pressed about a theological point from a Protestant he gets a little surfer-dude, can't-we-all-just-get-along-y. He speaks very freely with other Catholics, but his main concern is bringing Protestants back into the fold of Roman Catholicism rather than truly wrestling with our greatest disagreements. I'd LOVE to see them have a sit down, but I don't think it serves either of their goals because Winger just wants to focus on expositing the Scriptures as they are, and Knowles wants to focus on bringing all denominations under one banner. I think if they both had the same mission, to not dance around our true, important disagreements and to find where we truly do and don't shake hands in order to better understand one another and be honest with one another without fear, THAT would be cool and a true powerhouse discussion. But Winger just wants to exposit scripture and Knowles wants everyone under the Catholic banner, and with two different mission statements I don't think the conversation would be as amazing as you and I would wish for. If ever there's a time where they're both on the same page about wanting to have that kind of conversation then I'd be BEYOND thrilled because they both genuinely care about their beliefs, genuinely enjoy learning and understanding, genuinely enjoy thorough intellectual rigor, and have come to their opinions after a lot of thought. We'd learn a lot about both sides that way. Very happy to find a Knowles fan out in these corners!
@@bufficliff8978 You speak as though Mike's mission is somehow a negative. The duty of ALL believer's should be to exposit Scripture because therin lies the ONLY source of truth. It is not on Mike to somehow compromise and meet Knowles half-way. It is on Mr. Knowles to be intellectually honest be teachable and to seek the truth of God above all others with humility. (I am a Michael Knowles fan myself.)
Tonight we had a baptism service and a lady's testimony touched me. She spoke about how she realized Jesus did it all on the cross, and how she didn't have to do anything to earn salvation. I talked to her after service and she told me this video helped her understand salvation. God had led me to this video this week, so we could commiserate. Keep up the good fruit brother Mike!
I haven't watched this video yet, but she didn't have to do anything to earn Salvation? What about repenting of her sins? Or changing her ways? What about Baptism?
I never understand this about Protestant thinking. So please respond and let me know what I’m thinking wrong but, Jesus dying on the Cross gave us the OPPORTUNITY to choose him and live the correct life. We don’t automatically go to Heaven because he died for us. By dying he erases our sins if we repent and do what he told us. God doesn’t force us to go to Heaven he gives us free will to choose because love is a choice. So to choose we live the correct life and therefore have our sins erased. Now if we just do whatver we want and don’t care what we do cuz Jesus died so your fine and can do whatever. Do you really care about Jesus. No. How can you. You don’t live how he told you so your not choosing him and therefore your sins don’t get erased because you didn’t want them to you didn’t care about Jesus. If you murder tons of people and then die, you broke commandment. If Protestants don’t believe in mortal and venial sins then if that lady lived mostly good but committed small sins she also would’ve broken commandments why would that first person go to Hell and this lady wouldn’t. At the end of the day saying you don’t have to do anything is just a cop out of what Jesus did for us and taking the easy way and verifying for yourself that you can sin and do whatever you want so you can make yourself feel better about sinning and tell yourself you’ll still go to Heaven.
@@granthintz5111that’s not the point. Salvation is achieved through faith and repentance. “By grace you have been saved through faith.” Ephesians 2:8 It’s when you are already saved that you start to change through the power of the Holy Spirit. If I keep punching you and saying sorry to you for doing so but keep making a practice of punching you am I truly sorry? No. It’s through repentance and faith that the Holy Spirit changes us, making us feel disgusted by our sins and making us feel pleasure in our faith and conviction. So someone who’s truly saved who’s truly born again will not keep sinning because to be truly saved is to repent of your sins and have them washed away. Through faith good works come. Through faith we become kinder, more loving, more merciful and less sinful people. Are born again Christians still victims of temptation? Of course. But they don’t make a practice of it and repent after failing.
@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. but it feels so easy and nice 😅we are lazy humans and if you present these two options as if they are both valid and let’s say they were then 100% of humans would choose Sola Fide. Welcome to Relativism where your truth is valid and my truth is valid and we can ALL be right!!!! Kind of reminds me of the BIBLE where every man did what was right in his own eyes and we saw how that turned out. 😖
“In Christ alone my hope is found. He is my light, my strength, my song. This corner stone, this solid ground, firmed through the fiercest drought and storm. What heights of love, what depths of peace, when fears are stilled, when strivings cease! My comforter, my all in all. Here in the love of Christ I stand.”
@@alfray1072 Nor the sacraments, nor talking to Mary or the saints. But Jesus DID say, "It is written"; and, "Have you not read?" a lot, referring to the text of the Old Testament. He also railed against man-made traditions a lot, and called out the Pharisees (who seemed to act a lot like the modern Catholic Church/Majesterium) in Matthew 23. Do as they say, not as they do. Follow the Old Testament law that they teach, but not the extra traditions.
@@blindvision4703 No. Jesus condemned the Pharisees because they had exchanged the commandments of God in favour of their traditions. Don’t manipulate that scripture to suit your hostility towards the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church agrees that one should never abandon scripture in favour of traditions
@@blindvision4703 The point is that Catholics aren’t claiming sola scriptura. You are, but then adding to scripture by doing so. So saying “neither the sacraments, nor speaking to Mary and the Saints were mentioned either” means nothing because we are not the ones claiming that scripture stands alone. You are.
@@alwayschasingjesus3452 2 Timothy 3:16-17: "All Scripture is inspired by God, and is valuable for teaching us the truth, for reproof, for correction in wrongdoing, and for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God MAY BE COMPLETE, FULLY EQUIPPED for EVERY good work." If Scripture can make me complete, why do I need the Pope? And if the Scriptures AREN'T sufficient, why do I need the POPE of all things? Why can't the Holy Spirit make up for whatever I lack? Let's just say, hypothetically, Rome was suddenly razed to the ground, in one day, and all of the Vatican and everyone in it, including the Pope and all the Cardinals, were killed? Who would you go to now? More than that: what if EVERY Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox priest just suddenly dropped dead? Who would you go to? There are people who can memorize the Bible; name ONE person who's memorized ALL of church history and tradition. I'm just saying: the BIBLE teaches Sola Scriptura, not Scriptura et Ecclesia or whatever. And MY doctrine only relies on what Jews and Christians have been using for nearly 3500 years-God's holy, flawless, eternal word: the Bible.
i grew up as Roman Catholic and educated in catholic church then went to live wt RVM nuns for 2 yrs in the convent. That changed my thought about their holiness. I began to search the true meaning of a relationship wt Jesus. It was a long journey 11 yrs ago i was baptised as a Born Again Christian and 💯 % sure now of my salvation in Christ alone. I am heaven bound and rapture ready hallelujah
You were "Born Again" scripturally when you were baptized and part of the relationship with Jesus that you lost was receiving him, his Resurrected Body and Blood in the Eucharist, a means for receiving his Grace. Protestant grape juice and crackers is just that, nothing more, and a man-made 16th c invention.
@@TruthHasSpoken Sorry, l disagree. I was BORN AGAIN the moment l bowed my knee and personal will to the LORDSHIP of God Almighty and was filled with the Holy Spirit to make my human spirit ALIVE AGAIN after being born as an adorable baby human but covered with deadly original sin and DEATH. Jesus Christ IN His willingness to go to the Cross for ALL MANKIND paid the ransom for me ONCE and For ALL. HALLELUJAH!
If y'all have he funds, I definitely recommend UA-cam premium family subscription. Mike gets a portion of the premium pay and you can watch and support more water of life Christian content on UA-cam. ☝🏼
ABOUT FAITH AND WORKS: JAMES 2, 14-26: "14.What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15.If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16.And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit? 17.Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18.Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19.Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20.But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21.Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22.Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23.And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. @t see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25.Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way? 26.For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 2, 14-26 - @t ABOUT WORKS AND PURGATORY: 1Cor 3, 13-15: "13.Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14.If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15.If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." @t
Former Roman Catholic here, I'd just like to say, in regards to the sacrament of confirmation, if you're raised in the church, it's mostly done when the person is around the age of 13 (at least in the U.S.) So even though it's a "conscious" choice, It's more like a "I have to do this and agree to this because this is what my parents told me I have to do" choice. When I was 18 I went to 3 separate masses by myself. When I was there I was very observant of what was actually going on, especially during eucharist/communion. Each week I continued to get a very off-putting feeling. After the 3rd I decided I'd only step foot inside a Roman Catholic Church if it was an event I was doing with my family. Basically just Easter, Christmas, and funerals. It made me realize all of the theological decisions I made were made for me, I wasn't consciously making them myself. I ended up becoming lukewarm/borderline agnostic. Until I had a dream that when I woke up from made me think "Where am I going when I die?" All I had was a Catholic Bible, and I didn't want to associate myself with that organization anymore so I bought an NKJV, started reading, and now I'm just a Bible believing Christian. I was baptized at a non-denominational church about 2 months ago.
"There are not 100 people who hate the Catholic Church, But there are millions who hate what they mistakenly think what the Catholic Church is."-Archbishop Fulton Sheen "He who steeps himself in history ceases to be a Protestant." ~ St. John Newman, a convert to the Catholic Church “We began to see that as non-Catholics, in good faith we had submitted our lives to Jesus Christ on our terms, not his. We had no other terms. Our Christian lives had been based on our interpretation of Scriptures or that of other persons whom we had chosen to follow.” ~ Fr. Ray Ryland Former Episcopalian Priest now Catholic *********** Jesus renamed his apostle, Simon Bar Jonah to Kepha, Rock in Aramaic, the language of Jesus. Later, it was translated to the more popular ancient Koine Greek, Petros, then to the English, Peter. BTW: The Dead Sea Scrolls were originally written in Aramaic. Kepha set the first tenets of the Church at the Council of Jerusalem in 50 ad. He also appointed the first bishops to the 7 churches, listed in the Book of Revelation, St Justin Martyr and St Ignatius of Antioch***. There were also referred to as the early first century Church Fathers. St Paul and the apostles acknowledged Kepha as the authority of the Church at this Council. St. Ignatius of Antioch*** - "Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist, which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he (the Pope) ordains [i.e., a presbyter]. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 - 110 A.D.) LUKE 10:16 Jesus said, "He who hears you, Kepha, hears me, and he who rejects you, rejects me, and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me." Thou art Kepha and upon this Rock I will build My Church: Matthew 16:18-19 Peter is “Kepha” (Rock): John 1:42 (Jesus spoke Aramaic and called Simon “Kepha”) GALATIANS 1:9 If any man preaches any other Gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be accursed. 2 THESSALONIANS 3:6 And we charge you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly and not according to the Tradition which they have received of us. 2 John 1:10 If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house or welcome him. ********************* JESUS TOLD KEPHA AND THE APOSTLES Venial (minor) sins can be confessed directly to God. Unconfessed venial sins will send you to Purgatory and then to Heaven. Mortal (major) sins need to be confessed to a priest, the vessel of Jesus in the confessional. Unconfessed mortal sins will send you to Hell. Reference to a priestly confession. Matthew 16:19: I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind (sins) on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose (sins) on earth shall be loosed in heaven." Matthew 18:18: Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Matthew 16:18 all sacraments are in scripture John 6 51 55 John confession when Jesus breathes on disciples and give them authority to forgive sins or retain sins. Jesus wants one flock. Must know the old scripture From Gen 3 15 to Luke to Isaiah 7 14 Rev 12 ***************** Apostolic succession: Acts 1:23-26; 2 Timothy 2:2, Titus 1:5 Clement of Rome (4th Pope, taught by St Peter) wrote in 96 A.D. : “Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those presbyters already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry.” We are not given saving faith by good works, but with the purpose that we do good works. Works like compassion, forgiveness, and honesty. "See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone”. (James 2:24) Not all who say “Lord, Lord” will enter Heaven: Matthew 7:21 God renders to us according to our works: Romans 2:6 Those who die in mortal sin won’t be saved: 1 Corinthians 6:9 Faith, Hope, Charity, and the greatest of these is Love: 1 Corinthians 13:13 Works and Faith alone don’t save, but grace by Faith that works in love: Galatians 5:6 Work of Faith: 1 Thessalonians 1:3 Those rich in good works may lay hold of eternal life: 1 Timothy 6:17-19 Those who hear but don’t do the word are lost: James 1:21-27 Faith without works is dead, even devils believe: James 2:14-26 PURGATORY SOULS CAN'T BEND THEIR KNEE IN HELL TO JESUS. THE UNDERWORLD IS PURGATORY, THE WAITING ROOM TO HEAVEN. PHILIPPIANS 2:9-11 9 And for this God raised him high, and gave him the name which is above all other names; 10 so that all beings in the heavens, on earth and in the underworld, should bend the knee at the name of Jesus 11 and that every tongue should acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Praying for the dead: 2 Maccabees 12:43-46 Chastisement of the worthy dead: Wisdom 3:1-7 Some awake to life, some to shame, some to everlasting contempt: Daniel 12:2 Many will be purified: Daniel 12:10 Refining by fire: Zechariah 13:9 Purified like silver: Malachi 3:2-3 We won’t get out until we pay the last farthing: Matthew 5:26 Forgiveness in the age to come: Matthew 12:32 We pay the last mite: Luke 12:58-59 Sins unto death, sins not unto death: 1 John 5:14-17 Works’ll be revealed by fire; some will suffer loss but be saved: 1 Corinthians 3:13-15 Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus: 2 Timothy 1:16-18 We must be perfect before we go to Heaven: Hebrews 12:22-23, Revelation 21:10, 27
@@SylvesterPeter-sf3fy I don't have time to sit here and argue with people on the internet, nor do I feel like it so I'll just say this. My guy you are taking the Bible so far out of context and stretching the meaning of it, that it's not funny at all, it's just sad. Also you sited an apocryphal book (2 maccabees) which I don't want to offend you, but it's not Holy Spirit inspired. The Jews don't even have it in their Bible because it contradicts what's said in the Old Testament. I agree that Jesus started the Catholic.... However he DID NOT start the ROMAN Catholic Church. Do some history research because it's really going to help. The Roman Catholic Church states that the papacy is an unbroken line and started by the apostle Peter. Peter never went to Rome, there's little to no evidence of him ever being in Rome. And most of the popes have been terrible, awful people. We're talking crusades, torturing people and killing people for trying to translate the Bible into their own language, or because they disagree with the Roman Catholic Church, rape, incest, and many more atrocious acts. So please, do some research and throw out that catholic bible because it has false teachings that contradicts the rest of the Bible.
@@SylvesterPeter-sf3fy Exodus 20:4-5 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments." Mathew 23:8-10 "But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ."
@@johnyang1420 i would be inclined to agree, Jesus started the universal church which i believe was at first called the way. However the Roman Catholic Church was a merging of biblical christianity and paganism. Hence, the idols and the worship of the "Queen Mother"
You have a thorough understanding of how Catholicism differs from Biblical Christianity. I was brought up Catholic but was saved at age 24. Stayed in the RC church another seven years but couldn't stand the non-gospel and distortions any longer and left. My heart 💔 bleeds for the family members still adhering to Catholicism, praying to saints, wearing medals, with confused theology and no assurance of salvation. It seems impossible to get through to them. I shall share this link with them if ever there's an opportunity to do so, because you hit the nail on the head in the kindest way without compromising the truth.
I was brought up Christian but was saved at age 34. Stayed in the Christian church another seven months but couldn't stand the non-gospel and distortions any longer and left. My heart 💔 bleeds for the family members still adhering to Christianity, honoring the day of the Sun, celebrating pagan festivals (Xmas, Ishtar), with confused theology, living lawlessly and no knowledge of sin. It seems impossible to get through to them. I shall share the Torah with them if ever there's an opportunity to do so, because it hits the nail on the head in the kindest way and IS the Truth.
The RCC does have assurance of salvation..........it is in confession/charity/atonement........see the story of Zaccheus in Luke 19: 1-10; the only place in the Gospel where Jesus declares SALVATION.
I was a Protestant later my dad became evangelistic protestant preacher. I’m a Catholic now. I found God it sure wasn’t in a protestant church. I tried every one of your denominations and countless churches thank God I was never baptized by them people. My life hasn’t been better since I converted.
I was born and raised Roman catholic for 34 years and never understood the gospel. Went to catholic school and did all the sacraments up to marriage. Felt like I was just climbing a ladder to God but never had a true relationship with Him. But thanks be to God that I finally herd the gospel and believed it from the heart. Left the catholic church and am walking with God ever since. I actually have a relationship with Jesus instead of just following a religion.
@Shameless Papist No I wouldn't fall under that umbrella. Actually the grace God teaches us not to sin and to live righteously (Titus 2:11-12) Now I hunger to read His Word daily and constantly strive to grow in His grace. I've done a complete 180 where as before I lived like the world Monday - Saturday then went to church on Sundays. Now I live for God everyday constantly looking for our blessed hope, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Having a personal relationship with Christ means this . As the Bible states "Believe in the LORD JESUS, repent acknowledge your sins and you will be saved. It does not say believe, repent and follow the Roman Catholic church. And you will be saved. Churches do not save anyone. The universal church is not a denomination it is the assembly of born again believers. It is Christ that saves and Christ that rules. it's not a magisterium or a papal decree that has to be obeyed, but the Bible through which the Holy Spirit becomes our guide. This i what gives us the assurance of salvation.
Shameless Papist It is blasphemy to think that you need to confess yours sins to a so-called priest, many who are sexual predators/deviants, in order for them to forgive your sins. This, only after mindlessly reciting Hail Mary’s and Our Fathers. When the temple veil was torn from the top to the bottom at Christ’s death, it was a sign that no longer did we need to go through an intercession priesthood. Jesus said that He was the Way, the Truth, and the life, and no man came to the Father but through him. That’s right. Jesus only. Not some pompous non-scripture-believing sinful man. This Pope is an evolutionist who has even opened the door for aliens to have populated the earth. Look it up. The only Catholics who are saved are “bad Catholics” who don’t follow the hogwash they are being fed in their catechism, most which is outside the Word of God. They have that Lordship trust- relationship with Jesus you mock. Better get it right. There are ways which seem right to a man, but they lead to death.
21:00 the church teaches (in the catechism and the council of Trent and the council of Orange) that man’s initial salvation is an act of faith through grace. The works we do for Jesus are acts of love, also prompted by grace, which further our justification to making us more like Christ. Your salvation is still a gift. The faith we have is still a gift, but as we act more like Christ we grow deeper in our love for him, thus the church teaches that we are further justified by works. Justification is not a binary “saved or not” it’s a manner of growing in our love for Jesus over our whole life.
Bassman_007... You said.. 'The works we do for Jesus are acts of love, also prompted by grace, which further our justification to making us more like Christ.' That is incorrect. This is what you should have written: The works we do for Jesus are acts of love, prompted by the indwelling Holy Spirit, which further our sanctification to make us more like Christ.
I very much enjoyed your discussion on Catholicism. I don't know many Catholics who are saved. I'm a former Catholic myself. I can remember the nuns talking about accumulating grace through the sacraments. My Mom was a Protestant who converted to marry my Dad. She's no longer Catholic. She always read the Bible & prayed. We had children's Bibles, which I read on my own. As a result, I had difficulty reconciling what the Bible said with what the RC taught. At 14, a friend of mine led me to Christ. I'm forever grateful to him.
Capsulized HISTORY of CHRISTIANITY To get a full understanding of the whats and hows and whys of the Christian Church today, you need to know a little about Church history. Not just because it’s important to know, but because so many of the major events that have significantly shaped Church doctrine and history throughout the years have been the direct result of other events that happened before them. Before I begin, I think it is important to say, in no way, shape or form am I even trying to give a complete report. I’m writing a blog post, not a book. Therefore, I am forced to choose only the information I feel is most pertinent while trying to be as unbiased and educated as possible. Feel free to add more in the comments! While the overarching story of Christianity began with the creation of the Universe, the story of Christianity as a religion essentially began with the birth of Jesus Christ around 4 BC. Prior to Jesus’s birth, life and ministry, the only way God’s people (the Jews) could have any hope of knowing God and going to Heaven was to keep the Law of Moses. For Jewish people, the law was their life, and they followed their laws like their salvation depended on it (because it did). Non-Jewish people had no hope of Heaven, according to Jewish belief. Jesus was born a Jew and was raised in Jewish culture. All of the first Christians were as well. For the first few years, all Christians were Jews, but not all Jews were Christians. Instead, many, many Jewish people HATED Christians, because they saw the Christians as blaspheming against God. The Spread of Christianity News of Jesus’s death, resurrection and ascension quickly spread through the area and then out to cities farther and farther away as the apostles went out to evangelize. Keeping the message consistent was likely pretty easy in Jerusalem, where there were several witnesses, but as the Good News spread farther and farther away, it became more and more difficult to keep the message consistent. This is why Paul wrote many letters to the churches in far off cities-to correct wrong beliefs that had crept up in his absence. The first Christians didn’t all believe the exact same things. Some Christians practiced infant baptism while others waited, for example. Still, people seemed to get along well enough for the most part. They were all of the same religion, even if they didn’t exactly agree on all of the specifics. The Rise of Heretics It wasn’t long, however, until some people began making claims that weren’t simply “off a little” - they were downright heretical. For example, the Gnostics rejected all things physical and claimed that Jesus was divine but not human. Arius claimed that Jesus was not eternal God, but was the first being God created. Jovinian objected to the idea that Mary was a virgin. In order to combat these heresies and others, the Church had to take an official stand and formally state their beliefs. These declarations were not new information; they were simply affirming and clarifying what the church had always held to be true so that believers wouldn’t unknowingly succumb to heretical teachings. The Catholic Church still does the same thing today. One such clarification was the Nicene Creed, which was written at the Council of Nicea in 325 and which Catholics still recite at Mass today. It states the basic truths that all Christians believed then and that all Catholics (should) still believe today. In addition to the heresies, new writings (such as the Gospel of Thomas) began to circulate that claimed to be inspired that really were not. As a result, church leaders met to decide and make an official statement about which books were in fact inspired. They did not MAKE them inspired-they always were-the church simply made an official declaration. While opinions varied somewhat on which books should be included, an official list was written up in 367, then approved by the Pope and formally approved by the church in 382. This list contained the Bible pretty much exactly as we have it today, although modern Protestant Bibles do not contain the Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical books - 7 books of the Old Testament that are still in dispute today. The church didn’t decide which books to include willy-nilly of course. With prayer and careful debate, they compared the proposed books against certain criteria, including: • The books had to be written by an apostle or a close follower of an apostle. • The books had to be consistent with the rest of Scripture. • The books had to be consistent with what church Tradition affirmed to be true. (Remember: they didn’t have a Bible yet, so church Tradition was the ultimate measuring stick up until this point.) • The books had to already have gained widespread use and acceptance. On a side note, it is important to keep in mind: • This was before the printing press, so books had to be transcribed by hand onto scrolls. • As a result, these scrolls were very expensive, especially
Some Christians, especially those who call themselves “non-denominational,” criticize Catholicism for its rituals, especially those of the Mass. They may argue that such ritualized forms of worship were only for the Old Covenant. Since we’re in the New Covenant, we don’t need all that stuff anymore. The objection is based merely on the assumption that God didn’t intend such rituals to be a part of worship for his people in the New Covenant. To challenge that assumption, we can begin with passages in the New Testament that provide evidence that the early Christians viewed ritual as essential to their worship. See, for example, Acts 2:42, 1 Corinthians 10:16 and 11:24-29, and Matthew 28:19. But I think there’s something more fundamental to the objection than a search for New Testament prooftexts. It’s more of revulsion to ritual itself. This is what I’d like to address here. There are no non-ritual cultures. The fact that every culture in human history has had rituals indicates that ritual corresponds to something in human nature. Even American culture, which historically has tried rid itself of formality and tradition, has rituals. And I bet your non-denominational friend doesn’t mind them. For example, we don’t think having rituals at graduation ceremonies, or in military procedures, is a bad thing. And most still think that rituals at weddings are important. I doubt your non-denominational friend would be fine with having the bride and groom just say, “Okay, we’re married. Let’s get on with it.’” I think it’s safe to say that your friend will not deny that these secular rituals are good. Your task now is to draw out the reason why your friend intuitively believes this. You can take your cue from St. Thomas Aquinas, who teaches that it’s befitting to man that he should “employ sensible signs in order to signify anything” (Summa Theologiae II-II:85:1). The reason for this is that man is a body-soul composite. The body is essential to our personhood and thus is essential to our communicative powers. It makes sense, therefore, for us to use ritual-formal words and gestures by our bodies-to communicate the value of the things we’re celebrating, and how much we appreciate those things. If it’s fitting to our human nature to use sensible signs when we’re communicating our appreciation and respect for worldly things, then it’s even more fitting to use sensible signs when communicating our appreciation and respect for God, since he is far superior in dignity to any worldly thing, and since we have a natural obligation to order all things-including our bodies-to him. It was this sort of reasoning that led Aquinas to conclude, Hence it is a dictate of natural reason that man should use certain sensibles, by offering them to God in sign of the subject and honor due to him, like those who make certain offerings to their lord in recognition of his authority (ibid). There’s more to the story, however. Notice that in the above examples we recognize that not just any rituals will do. The magnitude of certain events demands words and gestures outside those of everyday life. For instance, just to have graduating seniors come and grab their diplomas off a table set up in a parking lot would not be fitting for a commencement event. Merely having soldiers gather together in a field and saying with a bullhorn, “Hey guys, pretty good job,” and then sending them on their merry way doesn’t do justice to the value of their sacrifice. And couples who get married by an Elvis impersonator in Las Vegas dressed up in their camouflage outfits do not befit the dignity of marriage. (Although even in this scenario there is some formality!) So, as human beings not only do we need to use sensible things to communicate how much we appreciate something, we sense that we need to use special words and gestures that befit the dignity of the thing being celebrated. And if this is true of secular things, how much more true is it of divine things? According to Aquinas, the most befitting exterior gesture for worshipping God is sacrifice. He argues that other things that pertain to worship, such as “genuflections, prostrations, and other manifestations of this kind of honor” may also be shown to men, although when directed to God they are performed with different intentions (Summa Contra Gentiles 3:120). “But,” Aquinas continues, “it is agreed by any man that sacrifice should be offered to no person unless he is thought to be God or unless one pretends to think so.” His rationale for this is that the exterior sacrifice signifies the interior sacrifice by which the human mind offers itself to God as the “principle of its creation,” “the author of its actions,” and “the end of its happiness.” Since such attributes can only be ascribed to God, St. Thomas concludes that sacrifice and worship ought to be given to God alone. As to what must be offered in sacrifice, and how it is to be offered: God must tell us.
@@jesusmaryjoseph831 "employ sensible signs in order to signify anything" When quoting Thomas Aquinas, it helps to explain the words. Almost nothing he writes uses words with their common, modern meaning. "Sensible" in this case does not mean wise or reasonable, but rather, "can be sensed with human senses"; rituals that one can see, touch, hear, smell.
I was raised in the Roman Catholic faith. Went to and graduated from a Roman Catholic school. Fell away from God for a while, but I'm back. I came full circle thanks to Catholicism. God seems to surround me with the same folks I am. Catholicism is not for everyone, I understand that. It just gave me back my salvation, saved my soul, and changed my life. I did the Catholic Church thing and sought a priest. Just to hear my sins were forgiven was amazing to hear and feel. That being said, I hold my church accountable for its transgressions. What it did to its victims is monstrous, but it's also for the victim to find their peace and forgive their transgressors, even if that means the minister must have legal consequences done to them. The learned have tried teaching "you do right because it's the thing to do. Faith saves you, but you also have to continue doing 'right' because that is your calling". My church fathers are teaching this. Also, though Holy Orders, the priest has the same authority as the Apostles who were given said authority from Jesus. It's always "In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". The priest recognizes himself as a REPRESENTATIVE of Christ, having come from a long line of ordained ministers that date back to the original Apostles. Eucharist is a very important thing because you have the responsibility of being a living tabernacle for Jesus, which I believe a lot of my brothers and sisters have lost sight of what that means. I did for a while. Jesus is forever alive. That's the beauty of Him being present in the Eucharist. He's the only living sacrifice. Hence why He is the way, the truth and the life. Just like his body was broken on the cross, so too is He broken in the bread we share during the Liturgy of the Eucharist. We do allow folks to come up for a blessing if they're not Catholic, some partake in it, some stay in their seats. The sacrifice is meant to be remembered as often as possible. You want "Keep the Sabbath Holy", that's how we do it. Sometimes, it means more when you go as often as possible. But even priests are saying "Come often, it still means something". Faith definitely saves us, works done in vain are dead, prayers said in vain are blasphemous (regardless of religion), and worshipping on autopilot ain't what God wants for Christmas, let alone for the rest of the year. Everyday is supposed to be a gift. A second chance to be good. No one is entitled to anything, but through believing in Jesus you earn a right to try again and do it right this time around. And as a man on the inside, I understand it's true meaning now. All I can say is I'm home.
No disrespect my friend but I urge you to investigate the origins of its practices especially transubstantiation. It was not a Christian teaching for the first 500 yrs and was brought into the Roman church from pagan converts and philosophers who adopted Gnosticism and witchcraft. It appears to be “good” but has dark origins. It also insults the one perfect holy sacrifice that was completed in Jesus Christ. The apostles closest to him knew that consuming literal blood was forbidden (Acts). It’s a memorial of his death but no longer are we to perform any kind of sacrifice. No Catholics will tell you this just as no Mormon will tell you the truth of their Church. Jesus asked us to search the scripture. We are also the test all things (Thessalonians). I pray you find the narrow way. Rome is a wide and popular way and steeped in Mystery Babylon. The esoteric and the exoteric are all in Catholicism. They founded many faces of differing secret societies. Faith comes by hearing not by seeing. The Roman Church has its members also looking to the flesh and the physical and new revelations and does not direct us to Christs spiritual words. He said the flesh is of no avail and profits nothing. My words are Spirit and Life. Our works are always a fruit of our faith. Our Faith is a gift given to us and not of us. He first loved us. Without Him we can do nothing. The Church compromises these teachings. Your works won’t save you ; they show you are saved.
Not a comparison per se, but I recommend Ten Minute Bible Hour's learning about other churches playlist. He has this series where he goes to different churches and has them explain their denomination to a protestant. You should take a look!
Hi Ann, it really isn't fair to lump all orthodox churches together, since they are not unified in any way. However, I would like to point out some similarities between the "Orthodox" Church, specifically the Eastern Orthodox and The Roman Catholic Church. Similarities: 1) Eastern Orthodox has maintained Apostolic succession. This means that every Patriarch and Priest has had hands laid upon them by someone who can trace that Sacrament back to a specific Apostle. This allows Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox to have valid Sacraments. 2) Both agree on every truth revealed to the Catholic Church by Jesus and then sufficiently clarified by the Church until, essentially 1000 AD. This includes honoring Mary as the Mother of God, intercession of the saints, the Trinity, the books of Scripture, etc... Differences: 1) The Orthodox Mass is much more historically accurate than the current Roman Catholic Mass (Post Vatican II). 2) The Orthodox Church does not recognize the primacy of the Bishop of Rome (aka the Pope). Therefore, the Orthodox Church cannot call a council or define anything to be infallible. I am not sure what background you are from Ann, but this was the process used by the early Church to discover the truth of the Trinity in Scripture and then infallibly declare this as a Dogma of the faith at the Council of Nicea. But, because of their schism, the orthodox church is no longer protected from error by the Holy Spirit. This is the gift of infallibility. Infallibility means that a teaching from the Bible is carefully studied over hundreds of years to see how scripture was interpreted by the earliest Christians and study to see if this interpretation was refuted, contradicted, or elaborated on throughout the entire history of the Church. If a teaching is elaborated on and refined throughout history, it can be elevated to a Doctrine. A teaching that becomes a Doctrine can is then studied further, often over hundreds of more years and numerous more generations, and if it can be studied in entirety without any room for doubt, this Doctrine can be elevated to a Dogma.
Roman Catholic Christianity and Eastern Orthodox Christianity differ in some very significant ways. For example what they believe about Mary, the Pope, life after life, Communion, the Church Councils, etc. In many ways, I have heard it said that Protestant Christianity and Roman Catholic Christianity have more in common than Eastern Orthodox Christianity. I am not completely sure how true that is but I can see how it could be said.
I do admire the reverence of the way the mass is done in Catholic churches. In my Lutheran church we have a coffee shop in the lobby. People bring coffee into the service as if they were going to a movie theater. We are coming in the presence of God. We do not show enough reverence.
The presence of God is everywhere. Think about it...buildings called "churches" aren't a special place where He resides. We need to show reverence at all times and wherever we go. Saving it for a "church" building is worshiping a building. The followers of Christ met in each other's homes-Christ prophesied the Temple would be destroyed and they were getting ready for that. The Temple system was done away with, but man decided to start it again without God's permission, and ever since, man has used "church" buildings to create his own fake religions, and the preachers, pastors and priests think they are their own gods. That's why they dress in robes and stand above you. Christ was accessible to everyone, owned nothing, and anyone could approach him. These false "shepherds" act like celebrities. Just read the book of Acts-and ask the Lord to show you.
imagine the first century church where people met in homes and brought a lunch. reverence doesnt always equate to "silence" or abstaining from food etc. i bet they had their water jugs beside them (or wine or grape juice) and took a sip whenever they got thirsty while listening to one of the apostles teach. now when someone prays, or they sing a hymn, or communion is happening or an invitation is given, its inappropriate to eat and drink or talk.
@@caman171 that's all pure speculation though. And we do know the Apostles prayed and fasted...and not even just from food. Paul discusses mutually agreed on fasting from marital relations for a time even.
@@mrjustadude1 no its not "speculation". the early church were full of converts who didnt even know about judaism much less christianity. they were talking and asking questions, and i have no doubt the apostles or the pastors encouraged their questions. every meeting was somewhat of a "catechism" class if you will. there were no cars, most didnt even have a horse or donkey, so they traveled a long way, and the "services" probably lasted several hours. so in a house with no running water or rest room, i am sure there were people coming and going. dont get me wrong, respect and 'silence" are appropriate at times, but there was much more than that
They worship what they don't understand. You worship what you do understand. But the hour is coming and is now here for us all to worship in SPIRIT and truth.
Correction, Catholics believe in Faith and Works. Works is meaningless without Faith and Faith without works is dead. Please do not confuse our theology. James 2:26, Galatians 6: 7-9, Romans 2: 6-7.
Protestants believe faith alone saves us, but we are commanded to do good works which do NOT contribute to salvation, but are us "working out our salvation". Sola Fide is also taught by 1 Clement.
@@jmanuel722 Yes, by *GRACE* through faith *AND* works/ or good works/ or works of love. It is not "either", not "or", and also, it is not "plus/+" ---- but *and* , because they are inseparable. 🙂 Peace and *GOD bless* !
@@wilsonw.t.6878 sorry you contradict your self. Working out your salvation implies it's a process which goes against sola fide being a moment in time when you are saved choose one otherwise you contradict yourself. Plus sola fide itselfnisnt biblical it isn't mention in the bible except for you are not saved by faith alone. I would recommend that you revisit clements take on sola fide. Because he does not support sola fide.
Mathew 7:21-23 21 Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who DOES the will of my father in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?” 23 Then I will declare to them Solemnly, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers.’
@@TheMarymicheal of course it is. Someone must "do" something (word DOES), so faith is not enough for kingdom of heaven based on Mt 7,21. Lame arguments from Winger. He should debate someone like Sungenis, Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn, Tim Staples, etc. This way, he is just spreading his misconceptions about truth in Bible and Catholic faith (and his biases). God bless.
@@wtlchannel-waytruthandthel4254 Mathew 25:31-41 Is also clearly says that judgment of goats and sheep depends on the works they did to enter into heaven.
@FaithHopeGrace there you go another one spitting filth and judgment out of mouth. With the angelic title "faith hope and grace" You should consider to change it.
The main struggle for me as a Roman Catholic is that it feels like I am turning away from God if I question church traditions. For example, why do we have a lot of idols and why is there a patriarchial heirarchy, it reminds me a lot of the Roman empire . Then, why I need to confess to a priest as opposed to praying directly to God. I had a not so happy experience, seeing the priest i was confessing to was reading a newspaper while I was pouring my heart out through him. :( There are a lot of good catholics, but i fear if we are being led towards a wrong path. God bless us all.
Would YOU consider YOUR avatar or pictures of those YOU love or even the money in YOUR wallet to be idols ??? Can an statue of Jesus be an idol ??? Confession to a priest is God's Will........see John 20: 19-23. God even sent His Prophet to King David to get him to confess his sins.......see 2 Samuel 12. And yes, we ought to feel uncomfortable when we offend God..........see Luke 18: 9-14. David's Psalm 51 and his grief at offending a loving Father made him a ' man after God's heart ' as is written in 1 Samuel 13: 22. I have always had caring priests and the idea that a priest would read a newspaper while in the confessional is tragic. Maybe, he was looking for a suitable prayer/or saint to help YOU ( at least I hope so.) Blessings !!!
@@dman7668 quote----Veneration isn't the same as idolatry. But I understand in your world view you think Catholics are worshipping statues and think they are all individual pagan God's.--unquote definition of "Venerate"--to worship!~!!!! -OBVIOUSLY whay GOD Commanded means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to Catholics. That is why Ex 20:4-6 ARE NOT in your list of Ten Commandments!!! 3 “You shall have no other gods before me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. ----IMAGE of any form!!! WE are made in the image of God!!! Statues are made to represent God, Jesus, Mary, etc. Images are same as an IDOL!! When you bow to it, pray to it, etc, IT IS AN IDOL!!!! AN IMAGE of someone or something!!!
We don't have to pray to 'Mary'. And I imagine that Miriam would be utterly grieved that people have lost their way so much as to pray to her! Luke 1:46-48
We definitely are not supposed to be praying to Mary or anyone else other than God. We reach God through Jesus. So your prayers, as I have known it should be directed to Jesus, which is the same as saying God. Jesus is Lord, so saying "God, please hear my prayers" is synonymous with saying, "Jesus, please hear my prayers". We do not need Mary or anyone else other than Jesus for intercession on our behalf to God. I have never prayed to anyone but the One True God. God Bless🥰
17:46 What are the things the Catholic and Christian church agree on? 30:00 grace/works seven sacraments: 40:33 Baptism (infant) Vatican 2 42:55 Penance Reconciliation (confession to Preist) 49:50 Eucharist discussion 57:00 Confirmation 57:07 Marriage 57:36 Holy Orders: Offices of Chruch 57:55 anointing of the sick last rites 1:00:10 Purgatory 1:09:58 Bible
Purgatory is not biblical. You are saying that Christ’s blood was not sufficient to cover all sin and therefore we need people to pray us into heaven or hope our good outweighs our bad. Christ died for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. He made this promise at the foundation of the earth.
@@gustavmahler1466 “For every beast of the forest is mine, And the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains: And the wild beasts of the field are mine.” Psalm 50:10-11 KJV How is this about the millennial reign?
@@gustavmahler1466 I came across that teaching also, that Christ returned 70AD. Just wondering, can you explain or share some scriptures as to what does that mean for all of us living after that?
I fully understand why you cannot be Catholic. However, I also know that for 2000 years the Catholic Church did all they could to acquaint people with the Lord. When a catholic was born in the middle ages and could not read the Bible even if he had one, finally died and came to the judgement, he would be able to tell the Lord "I know you, I saw the story of your life on the wall of my church".
The true, original church was started by Peter in Jerusalem ten days after Jesus ascended into heaven. We know exactly what they taught and believed by reading the book of Acts. You would do well to read the New Testament. It won't matter on Judgment Day what the Book of Mormon said. It will only matter what God has already told us.
Yep !!! We love the Lord with ALL our mind; so we love Him in the arts.....in music/poetry/the Rosary, and through the prayers pf Mary and the saints.......our great ' cloud of witnesses ' as seem in Hebrews 12: 1. Blessings !!!
@@Elizabeth-rk3do "We know exactly what they taught and believed by reading the book of Acts. " Jesus : THIS IS MY BODY The Church of Winger: No it is not, Jesus was speaking symbolic only Christianity for 2000 years has taught exactly what Jesus said. 500 years ago some men formed protestantism and denied his words. Mike follows that latter and not "the New Testament." *St Ignatius of Antioch was taught by St John, the very same St John who was taught by Jesus and of whom wrote the Bread of Life discourse.* _“They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again.”_ Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to Smyrnaeans, 7,1 (c. A.D. 110). *St Justin Martyr writes a few years later:* _“For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have _*_we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, [the words of the priest at Mass] and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh.”_* Justin Martyr, First Apology, 66 (c. A.D. 110-165). *St Ireneaus too:* _“He acknowledged the cup (which is a part of the creation) as his own blood, from which he bedews our blood; and the bread (also a part of creation) _*_he affirmed to be his own body,_*_ from which he gives increase to our bodies.”_ Irenaeus, Against Heresies, V:2,2 (c. A.D. 200). Why should anyone follow the Church of Winger on his fallible interpretation of the Lord's Supper, a means for receiving Grace? So no, you do NOT know exactly what they taught.
@@Michael-nb4ng very true Michael ! Gospel of JOHN, chapter 14 : a true follower of JESUS-CHRIST knows him. Moreover, because he knows JESUS-CHRIST he Knows the Father. Thank you for your smarts comments !
I think you and Matt Fradd (a fellow UA-camr who is catholic) could have a deeply interesting and helpful dialogue together hashing out these differences.
@@augustv123 I have challenged Mike Winger to enter the discussion in this forum and many other of his youtube video comments section. He will not do it. That should prove to his protestant disciples that he is nothing more than a charlatan working hard for Satan to keep souls from going to Heaven through the Catholic Church.
@FaithHopeGrace Romans are in a pretty good light in the Bible, maybe you didn't notice but the biblical narrative sets them up as the successors to the Jews. Pilate famously said "What I have written remains written" and what did he write? Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews, rejected by the Jews, proclaimed by the Romans. And all the key Roman figures eventually converted, like the men who did lots for the clothes of Jesus, and St. Longinus who trusted the spear into Jesus' side, or St. Cornelius the Centurion who was the first gentile convert.
I would love a conversation between Pastor Mike and Trent Horn. This is an exceptionally good rebuttal of the Catholic faith, and I'd love to hear a back and forth with a Catholic apologist.
How about NO man and only G od himself? That's how allllll these different sects gets started. Just stick to his word ( even better if you are born again and read it with his aid ).
For all of the videos he has on Catholicism, Winger hasn't debated one Catholic. He said he talked to Catholic apologists, but he hasn't set up a public debate for people to watch. I wish he debates someone like Trent Horn and Michael Lofton instead of saying he debate some random Catholic with no name.
@@St.MosestheBlack If you are going to go into the apologetic world and make numerous videos against a certain group, you need to debate at least one person to show how accurate you are about that particular group. Mike put in a lot of dedicated time about Catholics, and he hasn't debated one Catholic yet. He made a lot of videos on atheism, and he was able to debate at least one time against Matt Dillahunty. He has been offered to a debate by Trent Horn, and Winger ignored the invitation. You can read the screenshot from Trent Horn’s Twitter that shows a UA-cam comment from Mike saying he’s not answering Trent. Debate is also a great way to get a better understanding of someone's views and beliefs. Mike made numerous erroneous claims, and he is not willing to have at least one debate with the amount of content he made about a certain group.
@@St.MosestheBlack My comment is not saying yes to your question. You asked should Mike debate someone from every false religion or just Catholics. I said if he constantly going to talk about a particular group, he needs to debate someone from that group. That is not saying he should debate every false religion. He believes the Muslim religion is false. He barely makes videos about Muslims, so I don't expect him to debate a Muslim. I don't know how that is a yes to your question when I made a distinction to showed he should debate certain religions and not every religion (including Catholicism if he is not making numerous content).
He's already explained why he won't debate people. And personally, I prefer his videos this way rather than just arguing with people for over an hour on a video like most debates turn into
Thank God, I found the courage to stand up to my family and leave the Catholic Church. Now I know the truth of salvation in Jesus Christ❤ He changed me and my life🙌
Amen!! I left Catholic Church after 53 years and have been born again since 2020!! Praise God !! The Holy Spirit led me away from the oppression I had been feeling as a Catholic! Saved by God's grace and faith/trust in the blood of Christ!!!
Trent Horn, a Roman Catholic kindly requested to have a debate with you and to challenge you on your claims. Why haven't you got back to him if you're so confident about your protestant position? This is a sincere question, not trying to be a rude. I'm a protestant who's doubting protestantism and I'm wondering why most protestant apologists turn down debates against catholic apologists..
He asked me a number of times over the past year and I’ve answered. He’s got me on messenger. It seems like he’s just posting publicly to stir people like you to come onto my channel and post comments.
FaithHopeGrace Wow. Really? Nobody worshipped Trent. As a former Protestant, Protestants have GOT to get an accurate definition of worship to be preached.
Jesus and Paul never beat around the bush when false doctrines were the issue. For instance, they never tried to excuse or tone down their abhorrence of false doctrines and the twisting of Scripture with regard to salvation and wished to rather not have had to say what they said. What did they say? Jesus said, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44), and Paul said, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8). We should never tone down the offense of the Gospel.
I'm a Roman Catholic and I must say I loved this video, it's always refreshing to have a person speak with such genuineness. I'd love to see a discussion between Mike and Trent Horn on this, it'd be a humdinger of a chat! God bless :)
So you literally heard the Bible contradict Catholicism's core doctrines and still choose to be a Catholic? No disrespect just asking a question. God bless.
@@JasonLewis544 Good question, so I guess the best way to explain it is that I enjoyed Mikes video but I didn't completely agree with all he said, hence me still being a Roman Catholic. If someday I get enough evidence that tells me Catholicism is wrong I'll move away, but until that day comes I'd naturally stay where I am. For example, when he quotes the catechism of the catholic church, I agree that certain wording is uncomfortable, but I can disagree with certain wording as it does not claim to be infallible, so the CCC 2677 with the word "wholly", as Mike referenced, is something I don't necessarily have to agree with, it does have high authority but it's not infallibly stated. In essence, I believe the Catholic doctrines being explained, but "how" they're explained I can have certain issues with and still be Catholic. Here's some quick disagreements I had, 1)His review of John 6 on the Eucharist was something I disagreed with, in my opinion, quoting Jn6:63 focusing on the word "spirit" doesn't in any way contradict Christ being very literal when saying this bread "is my Body", this wine "is my blood". Christ is emphasising that a person is not to trust on their own human flesh and reasoning to grasp such mysteries, hence "the flesh is of no avail". That's what I think. 2)Peter and the Apostles had authority to bind and loose in Mt16 onwards, but only Peter was given the keys, Mike said they were all given the keys but I hope he just let that slip out by mistake, only Peter was given the keys, and I think that has him in the highest position of authority after Christ. That whole text links back to Isaiah 22:22 when referring to the keys. 3)In regards to purgatory, verses like 1 Cor 3:15 "though he himself will be saved, but only as if through fire", I think hint at a purifying process before entering the Kingdome of heaven, not an instant transformation. I don't see purgatory as something we need to further pay for our sins, Christ is the perfect once for all sacrifice that prevents us suffering eternal fire as a "consequence" of sin, but sin still exists, and Purgatory is the process of having the effect of sins in our souls purged out of us and making us into perfection, it's not further punishment, it's purification, or so that's my view. Lastly, the OT book 2Mac 12:46 say's to "pray for the dead to loose them from their sins", I know here Mike calls them the 'Apocrapha' but the Jews didn't have a canon until well into the first or even second century, and which Jews is he talking about because they didn't all agree. The Apostles themselves quoted from the Greek OT known as the Septuagint which has the 'Apocrapha', and even at that, when I read the apparent apocraphal book of Wisdom 2:12-20 I see a clear foreshadowing of Mt27:41-44(the crucifixion), So that's huge in my opinion to accepting those 7 books that aren't in the Protestant Bible. So that's where I stand for now, there's way way more I could point out, but I don't want to bore you, basically and with all due respect, I think there are holes in things Mike has said, it's not that clear cut. Hence, I'd love Mike to debate Trent Horn to really hash this out!. If you went through the effort to read all that then thank you and I hope you have a lovely day :)
@@silveriorebelo8045 I only said I enjoyed it, I never said I agreed with everything he mentioned. I think Mike was very enjoyable to listen too, I'd love to see a good Catholic apologist like Trent Horn debate this with him.
Why don't you invite catholic theologian rather than someone who agrees with you... I'm catholic and in all honesty a lot from what you're saying is simply not right and misleading
Since I have to pause for now, I must say I appreciate the good intentions. I will briefly touch on the grace part. In Catholicism you are saved by grace through faith. Grace is free and given by God, you can't earn it, but this is justification. Sanctification also has a part in salvation. You do good works in Christ through the help of the Holy Spirit. Imagine this; let's say I buy a bike for my brother. He didn't earn it. It was a free gift, but it won't help him learn to ride it just by me giving it to him. He has to learn to drive the bike. In the parable of the wealthy man who gave money to his three servants, he gave them money to make more of it, not to bury it. We need grace in order to be saved, but in order to us enjoy heaven fully we need to be saints. FURTHER EDIT: I'm not going to go for the whole points, but in 1:16:00... Why would the Church believe in the bodily assumption of Mary early on? Now we need to define what do we mean by early on. Of course they didn't believe it few years or decades after the ascension of Jesus, because Mary was alive for some time and she died later. I heard interpretations that in Revelation 12 there is a symbolic meaning of Mary's assumption. Lord Jesus Christ gave the Church the power of binding and loosing. Take it up with Him, I'm just a messenger. 1:26:00 James only proposed a discipline which a bishop can do. The dogma came from the mouths of Peter. 1:32:40 what about Clement? 1:47:00 saints are alive with the Lord. That's what they do on Revelation 5. They worship and offer prayers. 1:51:00 yeah, I heard before: "Go to the Bible" or "Go to the Scriptures", but where were the Scriptures for the first few decades of the Church? They only had the Old Testament and most of the times the one that is aligned with Catholic Old Testament, not Protestant. If someone had to learn the doctrine, did they go to the "Scriptures" that still didn't exist and people didn't know which books belong to the canon untill the 4th century? I think they went to the apostles and those who had their authority. Why don't you accept Shepard Hermas or 1st Clemet as Scripture? Why do you accept Jude, 2nd or 3rd John? There are still people that reject Paul as Scripture. The Church discovered what is Scripture and that's how we know them. The Holy Spirit is not what my "fuzzy feelings" tell me about the Bible. If you were to ask Paul what is the New Testament he wouldn't think of the second part of the Bible. He would say it's the Eucharist. There is so much things to say, but I question whether it's effective.
I agree with you on most issues, but as for the bodily assumption I find that a stronger argument is from genesis 3 21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.” If Mary was free from the original sin (immaculate conception) she did not necessarily have the burden of death.
@@belakovacs7013 great. I guess she wanted to be like her divine son and died and at the moment assumed to heaven. *Enoch and Elijah assumed* Protestants: *have no problem* *Mary, the mother of God, assumed to heaven* Protestants: "idolatry, you pagan Catholic Mary worshipers"
@FaithHopeGrace is Jesus God? Did Mary give birth to Jesus? Then why are you making problems where are non? Jesus has eternal divine nature and the human one He added at His incarnation. Mothers don't give birth to natures, but persons; that's why it's appropriate to call the Blessed Mary the mother of God. We don't worship her. Worship (latria) is done to God alone. Look at the 2nd Kings 2; who is the queen in Israel: the king's wife or mother?
I'm from Philippines, when I started reading the Bible I have "ahha" moments about being saved while I am still a sinner and Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father, not Mary, Pope or reciting 10x the rosary after confession... And life for a catholic is full of mystery no need to discover it, let it be.. Thank you for this vedio. All the merit for our salvation is through Christ alone.
@@LetGodbeGlorified right. Many Catholics don't know their faith unfortunately but just do what they do because of the culture. ( It was the same with me a few months ago, even though I have a lot to discover )
@@lonelyberg1316 true. I bought that book twice for my friends. The Catholic faith( and therefore Orthodox faith) is based on the understanding of salvation in full context of the Old Testament. We won't get a full understanding of the New Testament without understanding it properly in the wider context of Old Testament. Typology is an important key to unlock the meaning of many things in the New Testament.
Here in Brazil catholicism is huge. It will help me a lot. I dont write in English but I understand 100%. I am very pround of you Mike you are sooo great. Catholic people dont read their bible and they have no clue their church teaches those things.
do you really believe what Mike is saying here are what the Catholic Church teaches? and do you think he is the one teaching the truth? try studying Catholicism from Catholic sources. And yes in any religion/denominations/church there are people who dont really know what their religion/denomination/church actually teaches.
Protestants read the ONE Bible, but explode into thousands of - confused - denominations. And Protestants have missed the Gospel message. Paul, on his missionary journeys, boldly proclaimed - verbally - the Gospel message which Jesus revealed to him - Galatians 1:12 - and which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus as recorded in the 4 - Gospels - of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to. For example, Paul urged the Corinthian church to - expel the wicked man living in sin with his step-mother - 1 Cor. 5. Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead of - the 4 Gospels which will be the basis of all judgement by Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22. By way of example, Protestants hold Romans 10:9 to be more important than Matthew 7:21. On the other hand, the Gospels speak of Tough Love - If you love Me, keep My commandments - and - If you wish to be My disciple, take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - and - More - is expected of Christians to whom much has been entrusted - Luke 12:48. Moreover, Jesus' Parables are often prefaced with - the kingdom of Heaven - or - the Reign of God - and require us to multiply our talents, become more fruitful " soil " as well as become wise virgins, etc. So by ignoring the Gospel messages and clinging to - parts - of the Epistles and commentaries, Protestants are arriving at a watered down - Easy Christianity and cheap Grace - belief system. Jesus also on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Why did Jesus empower humans to forgive sins ? It is because Christ died to re-open the gates of Heaven which had been closed by Adam's sin - Original Sin - While Baptism - a One-time Grace event - will cleanse us of all PRIOR sins and unrighteousness, we are responsible and accountable for all sins committed AFTER. Below are 3 Examples - Firstly, Matthew 18:32-35 tells that Heavenly Father will "in anger" hand us over to the Torturers, all those who do not forgive UNTIL Divine Justice is satisfied. - Secondly, Jesus, in Matthew 5:25-26 refers to Himself indirectly as the Judge who will imprison - Catholics give the name Purgatory to that Prison - those who do not reconcile and where release is only made UNTIL the last penny justice is served. Note - By way of elimination, this prison does not refer to Heaven or Hell where there is no release. It does not refer to Earth either, where human justice is flawed and the rich and powerul have gotten away with serious crimes, even murder. - Thirdly, in Acts chapter5, the Holy Spirit "executed" Ananias & Sapphira for lying. So all 3 Persons of the Trinity act "in anger" against those who trespass God's Commandment - not suggestion - of Love of Neighbour. And if God has acted so harshly in cases of unforgiveness, non-reconciliation and lying, what will He do to those who commit murder, adultery or dishonour parents, etc ? Yet we all sin continually which could disqualify us from inheriting Heaven - Galatians 5:19-21. - ( continued )
Mike I want to thank you. You were an important step in God leading me to his One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. When investigating my faith as an independent Pentecostal your videos were probably where I spent the largest percentage of my time as I tried to affirm the faith I held. But in the end no stubbornness of mine could keep Christ from leading me to his Church. Gratias Deo
problem is friend, Bible proves the exact opposite. catholicism is not Christianity. *Happy Sabbath!!!* - 👈🏽today is the true Christian Lord's day - catholicism has tampered with It, as Scripture prophesied.
@@tony1685 I’d say the bible does a lot to show many of the beliefs of the Catholic Church. Though feel free to attempt to prove me otherwise. As for the sabbath we still keep to the commandments. However the day of the week we honor God with by giving it to him is merely ceremonial or accidental. There’s nothing stopping it from being any other day of the week. We have just chosen Sunday as that is the day our lord saw fitting to rise from the dead! We wish to celebrate his resurrection and so we as a church have selected Sunday as the day to honor the lord.
@@caidenhodges9103 a 'deception' would, by definition be a close replica, but not accurate - such is catholicism. (35 yr former here) you wrote: _'There's nothing stopping it from being any other day of the week.'_ - see Jesus' clear and unmistaken Words on this in Luke 16:17. you wrote: _'We have just chosen Sunday....'_ - so if you were courting your wife again, would you show up a day late? catholicism does this weekly - see Luke 4:16, John 15:10 - we either keep all Ten or we aren't showing love for Christ - John 14:15 because of His death, burial and resurrection - Christians are to partake in full submersion (not sprinkling, not infant) baptism: Col 2:12, Rom 6:3-4, 1 Peter 3:21 note too - all in the Bible - OT and NT - always kept Holy the 7th day Sabbath. and the Bible covers all of the history of this world - from Creation to ReCreation and even into Heaven to come. and even in Heaven - the 7th day Sabbath will still be being kept - Isaiah 66:22-23 headed to church shortly, but i enjoy spreading this Truth! btw - the Sabbath Command was prophesied to be tampered with. the 'church' which did it, they even admit and teach they did it! and sadly, the masses are still deceived. *Happy Sabbath!!!*
@@caidenhodges9103 that is very sad, friend. will keep you in prayer. you can read about 'ishtar' in Ezekiel 813-18 (sunrise service). i was there friend, but now Christian. read also of another 'church' which thought it could choose contrary His day - Ezekiel 22:26 He has already sanctified, blessed and made Holy , His day - Exodus 20:8-11 to choose another is to choose anti Him. headed to church now, but i always enjoy discussing His Truths. all questions welcomed and encouraged! *Happy Sabbath!!!* the Lord's day is here! 😊
It's apparent that Paul was having the same problem with Rome being confused about grace by the fact he had to write all this in this letter. It is an ongoing problem with Rome that spread. I used to be traditional Roman catholic and by the time I turned 18 I almost lost complete faith in the church, but instead of becoming a buddhist or something I started from scratch. Now I know I'm allowed to be a Christian without maintaining all that nonsense, that and my problem with mary worship and idols
Thanks for your comment. It helped me understand better something I've been trying for figure out for a while: how the culture of Rome (and Europe in general) influenced the Catholic Church. Your note that there was confusion from the start in Rome is insightful and increases my curiosity. I appreciate you
You completely Misunderstand the letter to the Romans. These are written primarily for Jewish And Gentile communities Living in a pagan culture. When Paul refers to the works of the law He is referring to the dietary laws and the laws concerning animal sacrifice a in the Old Testament. The good boys that do I do this are in love with God and love our neighbor..this fulfills The law through Christ.. The Catholic Church does not teach that we are saved because of works but faith working through love. I bet you never read your catechism Either the Baltimore catechism or the catechism of the council trent or catechism of the Catholic Church
@@bufficliff8978 I think pastor Mike miss represents the Catholic Church badly. I don't think you ever read the catechism of the Catholic Church Or the old Baltimore catechism Number three. Because it does Not teach works based salvation
@@dman7668 *Wow you are changing God's Word. Rev 22:18-19 is for you. Romans does mean good works.* Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified Not By Works! Vs 3 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness. Vs 4 - Works are debts . Vs 5 - he who Does Not Work is Justified . Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - Faith was accounted as Righteousness. Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from Works! Imputation of Righteousness by Faith. Vs 8 - imputation of Righteousness apart from Works! Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made Righteous By Faith before any Works. Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of Righteousness of the Faith by imputation. Not Works! Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through Righteousness Of the Faith. Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation. Vs 22 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness . Vs 22 - Righteousness imputed on those who believed. Not those who works! Rom 11:6 - If it is works, it's no longer grace you said Romans isn't talking about works the way you understand it. When it says to the one who does not work, it's talking about sin. To the one who does not sin but trusts God who justifies the ungodly their faith is credited as righteousness. It's not saying you don't need good works in order to be justified before God.
Keep doing what you are doing mike. God has gifted you with a great talent to not only study and teach scripture.. but to do it in such a humble and authentic way.
@@lonelyberg1316 I knew what Trent was about for years before I found Mike Winger on UA-cam. John MacArthur has a message almost as hour long about "Roman Catholicism," and the "Counsel of Trent."
Used to watch your videos when I was a Protestant now God lead me to the Catholic Church. The Church has lasted 2,000 for a reason and no Protestant church has lasted more than 500 years without splitting thousands of times despite being sola scriptura. No non-denominational church will agree 100% with each other even if they were on the same street. That to me says quite a lot.
I have been to countless Catholic Masses, study daily the Bible and I will NEVER become a Catholic. God has led me away from the RCC and into scriptures where you should be to have your eyes opened to the deception of religions like the RCC.
We are saved by grace and faith. This is true. However Christ told us that if we love him, we will follow his commandments. If you sin repeatedly, knowing that what you do is sinful, dare you say that you have faith? "But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds." James 2:18,
Yes, when one has a true faith in God, there is evidence of that faith. Being transformed by the renewing of your mind. Walking in the Spirit and not the flesh. Being anxious in nothing, but in everything seeking God. Growing in faith, perseverance, character, and hope. Loving God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. Loving our neighbors and enemies as ourselves. Speaking the truth in Love. Being a witness of the truth. Giving a defense for the faith. Works have nothing to do with saving, they're just an outpouring of God working in us.
@@christian_gamer_guy6447 Well I suppose it depends what you mean by "works" the things you are describing are actions. Having faith, loving your neighbor etc. is a deed that should be visible. Protestants like to move the goal posts when it comes to what a "work" actually is. Praying, having faith, are all actions and yes they absolutely are required for salvation.
"5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. [a]But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work. Romans" 11:5-6
@@TheFeralcatz Having Faith is not a work otherwise Paul would not have made a distinction between faith and works "8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9 If faith were a work we would have reason to boast that we saved ourselves but we don't because salvation is the free Gift of God given to us out of His Devine Love for us not a payment for something we worked hard to earn. "16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." John 3:16-17
@@rodneyjones1990 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." James 2:18
I was one of those who never understood the Gospel until I left Catholicism and began attending a non-denominational, Bible teaching, Christian church. Mike- I can't thank you enough for your great labor of love in breaking down the fundamental flaws in these psuedo-Christian sects and honoring the sanctity of the Scriptures. I'm compiling information to hopefully shine a light on these issues for some friends and family members still deeply involved in the Catholic church. May God bless you both!
Please reread council of trent. Jesus is touching us..bc every thing he did..last supper..on the cross..does not happen over and over..but he transcends space and time...by who he is..always NOW.
I’ve always liked Mike and his calm demeanor. He asks questions that others refuse to. However, I see confirmation bias permeating this talk. It is amazing for anyone to go into Christian history and completely leapfrog Catholicism and Orthodoxy, as if there was an underground church for 1,500 years. No mention of the heresies that were condemned, the truths that were declared (most of which modern-day Protestants would affirm and be grateful for). The councils were not held by some nebulous Protestant-esque church (which, by the way, happens to be a body which is divided beyond recognition). One thing that never gets mentioned when critiquing Catholic Tradition and authority is how a parallel is taking place in Protestantism. Their foundation of teaching authority largely comes from former Catholic men (via the Reformation). These men, and those who came after, don't affirm an earthly authority, even as they themselves become authoritative (saying they are truly the ones being guided by the Holy Spirit). They don't affirm infallibility, even as they themselves declare the "true" meaning of various verses. Additionally, they tend to dismiss Tradition, even while ignoring their own tradition of interpretation (knowing what is correct exegesis and what is not). If you dismiss the Pope and other Catholic clergy, you must defend why your interpretation is correct and whether or not it itself is infallible (and at the same time, you need to explain where such interpretation originated). And you must explain why your exegesis trumps your fellow studied Protestant who holds to a completely different view on, say, baptism and salvation. You cannot escape ultimate authority and tradition. It's impossible. The person who holds to sola scriptura isn't really saying much. If their interpretation is wrong according to others who also hold to sola scriptura, who is right? The one with more time in seminary? The one who unpacked the Greek meaning? The one who received a vision? Sola scriptura, without an ultimate authority, is a dog chasing its tail. Sadly, simply saying, “I follow the Holy Spirit” or “It’s me and Jesus” isn’t the answer, as it has produced exponential separation and a diluted view of absolute truth. We must go upstream and follow each split and division. Over time, it--at the very least--leads to Catholicism and Orthodoxy, not a historic Protestant church or the hazy “Biblical Christianity.” It's simply not there and has no continuity, just rebellion based on sins of others and disagreements about who has authority. Who founded your denomination? Which man or woman? And where did they come from? Where did they get their proper interpretation? Is such interpretation infallible? If the Reformation was loaded with Catholic men who disagreed with the Church, what were they returning to? When will we reach a satisfactory reform in their memories? Which denomination got it right or is in the process of getting it right? ...work out your salvation... …those who persevere… ...eat my flesh... ...shall not inherit the Kingdom... ...as by fire... ...No unclean thing... ...bind and loose... ...forgive and retain... ...upon this rock... ...cloud of witnesses... ...God of the living... ...transfiguration... ...we can do nothing apart from God... etc. Not my interpretation, but that found in the Tradition of the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
You give an extensive explanation and I as a former Roman Catholic give you a simple tip: Read the Bible beginning to end and then let us know your thoughts again. Blessings!
@@awakenedwonderfully8192 bit of an ignorant thing to say, just presuming he hasn’t read the Scriptures. I’m a new Christian, raised atheist, reading the Bible has me discerning between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, I find the claims of Protestantism very unconvincing.
In contemplating the possibility of joining the Roman Catholic Church many years ago, I seemed to develop an insatiable desire for truth. Since that time I have been, what some may call, obsessed with the quest for truth; devouring the King James Bible, Catechism of the Catholic Church and Abingdon’s Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Concordance. My conclusions and/or opinions presented in this manuscript are based solely on my personal study and research of the inspired written Word of God and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and are totally void of any sectarian influence. Twenty nine years of Bible study and research have been motivated out of a love for truth and not a quest just to ‘prove’ someone else wrong.
The deeper I got into the study of the Scriptures it became more and more clear to me that, contrary to the many good and wonderful things associated with the Roman Catholic Church, there are many definite and even crucial discrepancies between the doctrines and dogmas of Catholicism and the concise harmonious teaching of the inspired Word of God. Finding self contradictions within the Catechism of the Catholic Church added even more intensity to the war that was rageing inside of me. Which was, either to share or not to share my findings with my Roman Catholic family. The three meager attempts that I made during the past twenty nine years to share some of my findings were unfruitful. The fear of alienating my self from my family was more than I could bear; which has kept me from any further attempts. It was a huge nagging and constant hurt. I knew deep inside that this thing was much bigger that just me and my family. The more I studied the more I cried. The more I cried, the harder I prayed. It was not until this past year, through intense prayer and deliberation, that I came to the conclusion that I really don’t have a choice. Family or no family ... I must follow my heart and trust God totally. I agree whole heartedly with what St. Jerome wrote: “If an offense comes out of the truth, it is better that the offense comes than the truth be concealed”. I began rummaging through and sorting out old manuscripts that I had written over the years with a sense of urgency to share the truth of God’s Word concerning the erroneous doctrines of Catholicism; not with just my family but with the world. As you read my objections to certain Roman Catholic doctrines, please know that all of my efforts in compiling these manuscripts were born out of love and compassion for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ. Brothers and sisters in Christ who love the Lord and who believe the gospel’s basic message of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, but who are deceived and held in bondage under false doctrines derived from the traditions of man and are thereby deprived of the freedom and joy of fully experiencing the magnitude of God’s love. I earnestly Pray that the Holy Spirit will quicken the readers hearts and minds with the Truth of God’s Word and render void any "personal" opinion of mine, or anyone else's, that is not TRUTH.
Sort by, Select: Newest Comments and you will see my 13 comments reflecting biblical verses contradicting this poor sap, who takes scripture out of context, while ignoring biblical history and the falsehood of the Evangelical Christian movement aka Reformers.
@@dman7668 "He who steeps himself in history ceases to be a Protestant." ~ St. John Newman, a convert to the Catholic Church “We began to see that as non-Catholics, in good faith we had submitted our lives to Jesus Christ on our terms, not his. We had no other terms. Our Christian lives had been based on our interpretation of Scriptures or that of other persons whom we had chosen to follow.” ~ Fr. Ray Ryland Former Episcopalian Priest now Catholic
There are 2 versions of Jesus = the Protestant version - and - the Catholic Biblical version. God is able to do all things. Jesus could have remained in Heaven and forgiven our sins, opened Heaven's gates to all, and did not have to come down to earth and live as one of us and die a cruel death. However, God goes to = extremes = to prove His love for us. But God has - expectations - and requires - More - from Christians because we have the perfect example of Jesus - Luke 12:48 From God's Expectations, Commandments and Testing come our guarantee of - eternal - salvation and Heavenly rewards. Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24. Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matt. 4. Later, Jesus rebuked Peter as Satan when Peter tried to dissuade Jesus from His path of sufferings and death.- Matthew 16:23. And Jesus did not take the sour wine offered to Him whilst on the Cross to deaden the pain. Moreover, Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25. Even Paul, like a faithful Christian= boasted =of the Cross -Galatians 6:14, Christian Rule of Thumb is that if anything is hard/difficult, it is from God. On the other hand, if it is -easy - it is from the devil The fact is that there are Catholics who leave the Faith because they say it has too many rules and regulations. Of course, they don't realize it is that rules and regulations are like Commandments which were God-issued so that these create a - safe - boundary beyond which the devil, like a roaring lion, is prowling about seeking to devour. On the other hand, Protestantism has no rules and regulations, no requirements and only promotes - Easy - Christianity and cheap Grace. List of - Hard - Facts == Commandments = Love God and Neighbour, including Enemies = God's Testing = Strive to enter Heavenly narrow gates for Few will enter - Mat. 7:14 & Luke 13:23-24 = Confess to another - John 20:22-23 = Eat My Flesh, drink My Blood - Real Food and Drink- for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58 + Partake of Holy Communion, worthily - 1 Cor. 11:26-27 =Jesus' Parables requiring the multiplication of Talents, becoming more fruitful "soil," wise "virgins" carrying oil, etc.= Vengeance is Mine, I will repay; = Fasting, Prayer and Almsgiving - Rewarded by the Father who sees in secret - Matthew 6. = Jesus urged the necessity of praying always - Luke 18:1. Thus Catholics have adopted the responsibility of praying for others, just as Jesus urged Peter to pray and thereby strengthen the others - Luke 22:32. List of - Easy - Facts == With Faith alone, one is saved by Grace and name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, never to be erased = God's Commandments and Testing have been overtaken by Jesus' sacrifice and covered with His Precious Blood. Moreover all sin debt - past, present and future - has been paid in full. Thus the Guarantee - Absent in the Flesh, present with the Lord, forever = The 4 Gospels were meant for the - lost - people of Israel. Now there is a new covenant in the Blood of the Lamb which means - Once Saved, Forever Saved = Works are unnecessary for Salvation and are boastful = And Christian Marriages that end in - easy - divorce and remarriages. (( NOTE - In these later times we realize the tremendous growth of evil in the world. More Prayer is required to counter it. For all Christians = Protestant and Catholic = the Psalms are an excellent source of Prayer. Also it is good and beneficial to read and study the 4 Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John which contain the teachings of Jesus brought from the Heavenly Father's = mind and heart = for our Salvation. And in the 1930's, not yet a hundred years ago, Jesus our - Living God - appeared frequently to a Polish nun, Sister Faustina and urged the following prayer = Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ in atonement for our sins and those of the = whole = world. For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have Mercy on us and on the = whole = world. This prayer is contained in her Diary, titled - Divine Mercy in My Soul - which is available in book-stores. And in 1995, Jesus appeared to a Nigerian, Barnabas, and urged the following prayer = Precious Blood of Jesus Christ save us and the whole world)) By our prayers that intercede for others, we become Christ-like who intercedes with the Father, and thus save many souls.
First off, this is an excellent video littered with salient points. Secondly, as pertaining to the Peter the rock interpretation, it should be noted that almost immediately after Jesus uttered those words, he rebuked Peter and said to get behind me Satan after Peter was not being mindful of the things of God but rather the things of men. The good news is that Christ IS STILL the head of the church, not man, and the word of God is still the ultimate authority to put our trust in, not man, not tradition, and not a religious affiliation, hierarchy, or inherited authority. As a former Catholic, the moment I began to read scripture and absorb it, the more that quite a bit of the theology that I was taught through my Catholic education and CCD began to stick out as being in opposition to scripture. I still have many family members, including my amazing mother, and very dear friends whom I love that are devoutly Catholic, and who love Jesus, so it’s not unbelief that is at stake here. What is needed more than anything is for Catholics to read scripture and pray, but also to recognize scripture as even the Jews do as the ultimate authority, not any of the aforementioned things of men.
@@veritasmuy2407 You keep repeating that Peter was the first pope, yet you do not show any proof to support your opinion in this matter. Seems you know perfectly well that you are presenting something that is false here. So without lies Islam dies?? And Peter only started teaching what Jesus commanded after he understood what was correct. So again we "without lies Islam dies". And Peter did not teach the mistake he makde but learnt from that. Again "without lies Islam dies". We know from the many heretical groups like the Gnostics and the Arians etc that people did teach something that was wrong about Jesus. But God ensured that their false teachings are no longer being taught as being correct. So non-Biblical doctrines like Islam are exposed and are being rejected by Christians. You refer to John 19:25-27 English Standard Version >> 25 but standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.
Thanks for your excellent ministry, Mike. You are thoroughly biblical in your knowledge and very Christlike in your demeanor. God is using you powerfully!
From a Catholic perspective: Mike and I could sit down with our bibles, and open up to Matthew 23:9 ('Call no man on earth father...'). Mike would say Jesus is speaking literally here, the Catholic church would say He is not. Mike and I could then flip to John 6:54 (Jesus' discourse about eating His flesh and drinking His blood). Mike would say Jesus is not speaking literally here, the Catholic church would say that this is (effectively) literal and conveying a spiritual truth of vital importance. The question then becomes: how can Mike Winger (through a purely scriptural lens) purport to know when Jesus is, or is not, speaking literally? Should I believe Mike Winger's interpretations? Or should I believe St Ignatius of Antioch, St. Justin Martyr, St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, and 2000 years of teaching and tradition? The Catholic church, founded by Jesus Christ, is the 'pillar and foundation of truth' described in 1Tm 3:15, and gives us a firm base to stand on when trying to understand the teachings of scripture.
At the one hour and ten minute mark, he criticizes how in Catholicism, the Church is the only one who can correctly interpret the Bible and it become Sola ecclesia and not Sola scriptura. But do all Baptist pastors interpret it the same way? Or all Lutherans? Methodists? Do all non-denominational pastors interpret it the same way? By this sense then the Bible is interpreted according to each person’s views and it becomes eisegesis and not exegesis.
If I may, I’d like to break your assertion down with a few questions and Scripturally-based answers. Q: How do we rightly determine Scripture? A: From the Book of John (Jesus’s words): “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, *He will teach you all things* and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.” In other words, the indwelling of the third Person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit is the One who truly teaches and opens our eyes to God’s Word. Q: How can we then determine if someone is teaching soundly by the Holy Spirit’s guidance? A: From the Book of John (Jesus’s words): “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. *However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you*.” From the Book of the Acts (Jesus’s words): “But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and *you shall be witnesses to Me* in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” From the Book to the Romans (Paul’s words): “These things we also speak, *not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.*” In other words, we can be sure that the Holy Spirit is the interpreter in the life of the believer because what the Spirit says will never contradict anything that was previously declared by the other two Persons of the Godhead or the Scripture established by them. Thus, he/she who teaches something contradictory to Scripture (or in a way contradictory to Scripture) is not teaching via the Spirit, and cannot always be trusted to be teaching accurately. Additionally, the authority of the teaching can be recognizable even from the perspective of unbelievers. For instance, from the Book of Daniel (Nebuchadnezzar’s words): “…[S]ince all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known to me the interpretation; but you are able, *for the Spirit of the Holy God is in you.”* Q: Who then receives the Spirit, in order to comprehend the Word? Is it Biblically sound to receive interpretation EXCLUSIVELY through a specified, monarchally-structured church laity? From the Book of Luke (Jesus’s words): “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!” In other words, any child of God who asks for the filling of the Holy Spirit may receive Him. Does that mean that all are fit to teach/preach? No. But does that mean that the interpretation of the Scripture is not kept by any one person other than the Holy Spirit? Yes! So we should, ultimately, seek God and His wisdom, through prayer and reading of the Word in humility, so that He Himself will open our eyes to the interpretation of His Story to us! We will know that it is the Spirit working in us when His declarations fulfill the Scripture and corroborate the already known words of God. God bless you, and I hope that the Spirit fills you with a true understanding of the riches in glory through the Lord Jesus Christ!
What I find most unconvincing about Protestantism is the fact there are literally THOUSANDS of different Protestant denominations - estimated to be circa 45,000. This is the result of countless theological disagreements leading to open hostility and divisions between the various denominations, which in turn has led to widely diverging beliefs and practices. Since there is no universal binding authority within Protestantism, as there is within the Catholic Church, it is not surprising that there is so much uncertainty as to what Protestant beliefs really are as they differ enormously between the various denominations. Since they all disagree with each other's interpretation of the Bible, their claim that the Holy Spirit is guiding them must be entirely false since they cannot all be right! And who gave them authority to interpret the Bible? If they have each given themselves personal authority it follows that literally thousands of "Popes" have been created. Is this the true legacy of Luther, Calvin and the Protestant Reformation - a theological free-for-all? For those whose main goal in life is to refute the beliefs of the Catholic Church, it is absolutely ESSENTIAL to first gain a firm understanding of what the Catholic Church actually teaches, rather than rely on pure speculation or hearsay. Here is a list of books which will help build your knowledge: 1) Catechism of the Catholic Church. This is THE most important book to become familiar with and should be read from cover to cover. 2) The Catholic Controversy - Saint Francis de Sales. This book presents a powerful defense of the Catholic Faith that has never been equaled. 3) The Fathers Know Best: Your Essential Guide to the Teachings of the Early Church - Jimmy Akin 4) Early Church Was the Catholic: The Catholic Witness of the Fathers in Christianity's First Four Centuries - Joe Heschmeyer 5) The Bible is a Catholic Book - Jimmy Akin 6) The Case for Catholicism - Trent Horne 7) Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper - Brant Pitre 8) Behold Your Mother: A Biblical and Historical Defense of the Marian Doctrines - Tim Staples This is by no means a comprehensive list, but provides an excellent starting point. To test your Protestant Apologist credentials, why not check out the "CATHOLIC CONVERSION STORY" videos on UA-cam and see how YOU would argue against those highly experienced and faithful Protestant Pastors who have converted to the Catholic faith.
I'm cringing so hard. Hearing all this is so uncomfortable and makes me really sad. A lot of my family is still heavily involved and won't listen to facts proving the undoctrinal ways of the church. I was born and raised Catholic. Came out after 22 years. So many questions were unanswered and I was even hushed for asking questions, that I felt at 10 years old, contradicted the bible. Went thru four sacraments. I thank God for learning many things thru the Catholic Church by His grace, but I'm still dealing with self-condemnation due to what it teaches with confession, repentance, saved by works. I know what the Bible says about it now, but I'll be lying if it still doesn't have a hold on me. Prayers please. Thank you Jesus for your grace, love, and mercy. Thank you, Mike, for speaking on this subject.
I know what you mean. Also bring in a catholic home. But they didn’t go to church or anything like that. Only for events( like baptism, wedding, funeral) type of things. Yet we were forced to go the classes. To get my first communion and confirmation. Like you I knew something wasn’t lining up with what was being taught, all I knew is that I love GOD. Eventually I wanted nothing to do with religion, especially catholic religion. But by the grace of our LORD JESUS . I have been saved and full understand where I stand with HIM. Been save going on my 2nd year. Like I you my heart brakes to see my parents fallow traditions and what they hear from friends, then going in to the word them selves. Because of their example my siblings are lost. They don’t know the LORD. I’ll be praying for you. Please pray for my family. The “ Lunas” May GOD keep fill you with HIS love and mercy always!!
A very good and very Catholic friend of mine recently told me, just do your best. Love God and love your neighbor as yourself as best you can. And trust in the Lord. I think, in most churches, whether they are Catholic or "just" Christian, most people are just regular people trying to get along through this life and have a basic and fundamental belief that Jesus is our Savior.
Yeah, agreed. I can never be Catholic myself, but most Catholics I think are genuine. I just disagree with a lot of the extra doctrine the Catholic Church tacked on.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr What? There used to be a comedian named Flip Wilson, you can probably see him on UA-cam. He does this "The Devil Made me do it" routine. Very funny. Bible Scholars and teachers have no problem deceiving themselves or joining in on doctrines they really know are dubious. In some cases Satan or demons have something to do with that. In other cases not. If all sin was from Satan, everyone would make it to heaven because they have an excuse. Satan may influence people in high positions in churches, no doubt. But Satan didn't create the doctrines, men did that, deceived or deceiving or otherwise. And some people are just wrong. But they all have the same Scripture to test their theories before they become dogmatic.
I consider myself Catholic but have rejected many of the man-made additions. I don’t view the Pope as the “world boss”, I never agreed with praying to saints etc, I view communion more symbolic that literal. The word of the Bible is key. Salvation is thru Jesus, not thru confession to priests. Much better to confess directly to the Lord. Most of my friends are Protestant and we agree on pretty much everything because we are Christians first.
You are a heretic and a heathen if you reject the authority of the church. Where in Catholic doctrine say that the pope is the boss? I think you should direct that statement to the false sola scriptura doctrine that makes a person's personal interpretation the infallible truth that can be flip flopped 24/7 anytime and anywhere. 2ND Jesus gave authority to the church the power to forgive sins, not the false faith alone doctrine
@@alfray1072 Brother, need not condemn me for following the scriptures of the Holy Bible for the sole eternal authority is God and God alone. We are Christians, not “Churchians”. The idea of needing authority over people is of the nephilim, of the babylonians. Jesus did not come as a authoritarian warrior with weapons and an army threatening people to submission. He came with the Gospel, with good news. The church was created as a place to spread the good news. No mortal human or institution can forgive sins, that power resides solely with God.
@@HarZoiD Where and when did Jesus declare sola scriptura? If you really follow scriptures, then why reject the authority of the church given by Christ instead of following your own personal interpretation which is the nephilim and babylonian, pagan and self idolatry? 2ND Christ gave authority to the church to forgive sins. Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom to Peter and the authority to BIND AND LOOSE to his church in MAT 16:18-19 ; MAT 18:18 meanign Peter / Cephas is the chief among the apostles. In JOHN 20:21-23, Our Lord gave us the sacrament of confession and reconciliation; St. Paul expanded on it in 2 CORINTHIANS 2: 10; telling the elders at Corinth that when they forgive.....it is in the person of Christ. Jesus' ministry was all about reconciling us with the Father. for one, St. Paul describes his ministry as an apostle as a “priestly” ministry in Romans 15:16. That seems pretty plain to me. In fact, the apostles and elders of the New Testament clearly forgive sins, which is a function of a priest as well in John 20:23; James 5:14. And this is just to scratch the surface. So in answer to your point, the apostles and elders of the New Covenant are revealed to be priests in Christ after the order of Melchizadek. That is why we call them “priests.” They are priests. Jesus gives his power to forgive sins to His priests. John 20:22 If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven; if you retain anyone's sins, they are retained. John 20:23 After saying this he breathed on them and said: Receive the Holy Spirit. (Recall Genesis 2:7) 2 Corinthians 5:17-20 "God ... has reconciled us to himself ... given us the ministry of reconciliation." James 5:14-15 "Presbyters of the church ... pray over him ... he will be forgiven." (Prayer of presbyters forgives sin.) Matthew 16:19 Jesus gives the Apostles the power to bind and loose sins. Matthew 18:18 Whatever you bind and loose on earth, so it is in Heaven. See also: Luke 22:29-30, James 5:16 After forgiveness, the need for reparation can remain. 2 Samuel 12:13-14 "The LORD ... has forgiven your sin ... but ... child born to you must surely die." Luke 19:8-9 Jesus praises Zacchaeus for his promise of reparation.
@@alfray1072 I hope my point about authority wasn’t misunderstood. We are coming from similar places. I am not denouncing Church. I’m saying people get so caught up in defending their own denominations instead of defending God’s infallible word. God’s Kingdom is open to all who put their faith in him, not by having allegiance to 1 denomination. Humans love to gate-keep. As for binding and loosing: Its more so that God gave them the “authority” to continue spreading the gospel (a major task), not that they have the power to judge people. The gospel says sins will be forgiven thru God’s grace, by him becoming man and dying for our sins. Its not that a particular apostle or priest or pastor has special powers to nullify sins. In that case, they would effectively be God. All they are doing is communicating (thru the Holy Spirit) that God will forgive you if you come to him asking for forgiveness. Its a slippery slope seen many times in the Bible when humans start to discern right and wrong based about their own opinions, ie the golden calf. Let the word lead. Bad things happen when we add on. (See Galatians 1:8-9) At the end of the day, all churches are subject to corruption, especially if they hold their own authority next to or higher than God’s word. That goes for all denominations. A governing body isn’t the church, the physical building isn’t the church. WE are the church (1 Corinthians 6:19-20). Nephilim, Babylon, paganism isn’t my interpretation. Those are empires used to show us how humans can be lead terribly astray. I’ll counter your first question: Where in the Bible does it say to keep adding to the Bible? May God bless you
@@HarZoiD The Holy bible as the infallible Word of God and God's Saving Grace is not the issue here, we are the church that codified and canonized the Canon of scriptures (Holy bible) in the 4th century and we are the church that continues to administer the Sacraments for 2000 years. The issue here is the false sola scriptura doctrine that you are covering up and sidestepping because you cannot defend it from the unbiblical bible itself. The Catholic Church is not a denomination, it is a kingdom, denomination only applies to protesting cults and sects because legally and technically they are registered SOLE corporations. There is only one church Christ established and that is the Catholic Church. The church and its offices are infallible not the clergy. Again, Christ established the church and gave authority to it that is why we follow church teachings, not your own personal interpretation i.e. false sola scriptura unbiblical doctrine
Thank you. My fiance and i recently came to Christ and she is a catholic. Videos like this one helped me educate her and make a more informed decision. We still go to that church for the priest but she understands she is already saved.
"she understands she is already saved." She was saved scripturally when she was baptized (1 Pet 3 21), receiving the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and sanctifying grace lost in the si of Adam.
@TruthHasSpoken no she was saved when she believed in her heart and confessed that Jesus is Lord! If baptism is the thing that saves, that is a work and works cannot save you. Or was Jesus lying when he told the their on the cross that he would be with Jesus in Paradise that very same day. The only thing that their did was beleve that Jesus is God and placed his faith and trust in Jesus Christ. There was no baptism or works of any kind. But Jesus declared, he was indeed saved and would be with Him in heaven. No baptism whatsoever
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu "she was saved when she believed in her heart and confessed that Jesus is Lord!" *Scripture:* _baptism now saves you_ (1 Pet 3) _“He who believes and is baptized will be saved_ (Mk 16) "that is a work" It's following the commands of Jesus, Our Lord and Savior. It is a work of love to follow him. "The only thing that their did was beleve" Which is a work of the intellect and will. "There was no baptism" Where does scripture say that? Book ___ Chapter ___ Verse ___ "or works of any kind." *Scripture:* _39 One of the criminals who were hanged railed at him, saying, “Are you not the Christ? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; _*_but this man has done nothing wrong.”_* (Lk 23) The good thief did one of the GREATEST works of love ever, he defended Jesus as he was crucified. *Scripture:* _You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone._ (Ja 2) Justified by works of LOVE, not the the works of the Old Testament law. The latter can not save. And when one is justified, made right with God, they are 100% saved!
Protestants attack the Catholic church and say to Catholics this is not an attack on you. It's confusing to me because as a person who grew up as a Catholic, from experience, Catholics (the ones who truly practice) are probably the most humble and patient Christians I have ever seen. By their fruits I know them. I can't hear a criticism on the church and yet receive it as not a criticism on me. The Catholic church is what Catholics are. They are not 2 separate entities. I do believe you have the right to critique anyone and anything, but you cannot say it is not a criticism on me. It is, though, you do have the right to criticise the Catholic church - me.
I think you should be open to hearing the ways your church may be operating contrary to the Bible. I have Catholic family members. The Catholic church gets a great deal of teaching correct. They are very close to Lutherans. The one great exception is the church goverance including the Pope. We also do not venerate Mary and our clergy can marry. To disagree on these things does not mean I do not love my Catholic brothers and sisters.
Can you provide if you know if you are saved? Please ask them. I did. They cannot answer your question. They could not answer my question. I felt betrayed. The scriptures teach you can know and they withheld it from me. In the end it will be you and Jesus Christ alone and no one else. The scriptures do teach you can know if you are saved, but they don't teach those passages and condemn anyone to believe those passages. They were taught by Jesus and the apostles. They are in there. You can know you are saved. It is a gift of God lest anyone should boast.
If you read those passages you would so easily believe them like I do because I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe He died on the cross and shed His blood. He died as a substitute in your place so you can inherit eternal life. Believe in Him, you will receive eternal life. Salvation is a gift of God. It is given freely. He did not just die for only your past sins like they teach. He died for all your sins past, present and future. You are covered. They don't teach Jesus died in your place and that he shed His blood for all of your sins including the future ones. Confess Jesus Christ is Lord in your life and you get to inherit eternal life.
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen Jesus Christ didn't found the Catholic Church. it was the 325AD Council of Nicaea headed by Emperor Constantine 1 which was attended by bishops/popes of West and East Roman Empire May/Aug. 325AD ---From 30Ad--100AD--NPT ONCE is the Catholic Church ever mewntioned in the Bible!!! First CC built in Jerusalem 326AD.
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen quote--as you say...there were bishops before 325AD - so how did those get ordained without a church in existence?--unquote "The first Bishop of Antioch was St. Peter the Apostle, and the third, St. Ignatius, who became Bishop in 67 AD. and whose letters..." ---"Peter was the founder of the Church of Antioch and its first bishop." ---"St. James the "Brother of the Lord" and first Bishop of Jerusalem." ---"Of those who said these things, one became first Bishop of Jerusalem, the blessed James, of whom Paul saith, "Other of the Apostles saw I none, save James, the Lord's brother" (Gal. i. 19)" ---"The Apostles themselves were the first bishops in the Church..."
Catholic convert from a Greek Orthodox childhood and non denominational re- entrance into the faith. 15 minutes into this, and I see a few caricatures. Keep your heart open, Mike and keep asking questions. God bless you
God Bless you and thank you for doing this. I have been asking God for guidance and he lead me here and I am so glad I listened to my Lord! Thank you Jesus for saving me… ❤
You need to be careful with some of these preachers. This Pastor worship on Sundays as a Sabbath. He cares less about the 4th Commandment found in Exodus 20v8-11. Remember - If you worship on Sundays as your Sabbath, you're in violation of the 4th Commandment found in Exodus 20v8-11. Also, you need to know that Sunday Worship was created by Satan as a counterfeit to the real Sabbath. Read Exodus 20v8-11.
@@MountCarmel007 sorry I believe that everyday is a day of worship not just Sunday. That ' rule ' in the OT was to tell some time in rest and in worship. Look at what Jesus says about the Sabbath in the NT.
@@MountCarmel007 Vince you missed the point about the law being a pointer on the fact that nobody is saved by keeping the Law all of it, We cannot avoid it no mater how good we think we are without sin. We in the Age of Grace are saved not by the keeping of laws but by accepting the free gift of salvation through the death Of Jesus on the cross and his payment for all sin . We are not under legalism (the Law) We do however as saved people avoid sin where possible. The Law was given by Moses as a dispensation to the Hebrew people to show what sin is. This is not for the Church. The old testament also said Prostitutes should be stoned to death but the Church does not follow that today. You must rightly divide the word, Who what why where and How might help you along with careful Study. All the bible is meant to inform but it may not every event directly pertain to You. Christians do not follow a Jewish tradition of Sabbath. Colorful but Satan is not a creator of any good thing, he is a liar, a thief and a destroyer.
@@joycesavage2629 Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day....... Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, c Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over, Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment. Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, .... John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, John 19:42 o because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, btw---Matt --14:19----- Jesus "broke bread"--Communion?? No. they ate bread and fish. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: I posted this several months ago. NOT one catholic has replied! Why???? Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day made by God. I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer. And I know you will NOT!!! Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE RESTED on the First day of Creation?--(to make the day special). Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE BLESSED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special). Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE SANCTIFIED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special). Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE NAMED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special). Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY?--(to make the day special). FACTS: The ONLY DAY GOD RESTED on---7th day. Gen 2:1-2, Ex 20:8-11 The ONLY DAY GOD BLESSED---7th day.Gen 2:1-2, Ex 20:8-11 The ONLY DAY GOD SANCTIFIED---7th day.Gen 2:1-2, Ex 20:8-11 The ONLY DAY GOD named--7th day.-Sabbath -Isaiah 58:13 The ONLY DAY GOD DECLARES AS HIS HOLY DAY------7th day---Sabbath--Isaiah 58:13 .Quote the Holy Bible and prove me wrong!!! (When a law is once enacted by proper Authority, that law must remain in force until that same Authority repeals it; and the repeal must be as plainly stated as the original enactment." - anonymous) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To those that INSIST we are to worship God every day: (1 Cor. 10:31), but worship is a distinct activity in which we set aside other tasks and set our minds and hearts fully on the Lord, in order to receive his Word and to respond back to him with prayer and song-in private, in families, and especially in corporate worship. In other word--DO NO WORK!!! Perhaps the most sweeping biblical text encouraging us to glorify God in all things is 1 Peter 4:10-11: Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms. If anyone speaks, [he] should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, [he] should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised [literally, “glorified”] through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen. -------AGAIN, if you worship God everyday, you are DOING NO WORK!!! Setting aside the whole weeks, months, years and dedicated only to God.
Many great men came and gone but the Catholic church is still standing tall! Catholic church is founded by Christ himself, and He is true to His promise. May the Lord bless you and bring you to the fulness of faith.
@@veritasmuy2407 You may be interested to know that while the Catholic Church teaches that sacred Tradition and the teaching office of the Magisterium are sources of divine revelation, it does not say that these sources are infallible as the Bible is. Scripture supports that tradition is for the good of the believer so long as it is in service to Christ (1 Cor. 11:1-3). Paul writes in his first letter to the Thessalonians that the solution to errancies in teaching is not to reject all teachings, but that we have a responsibility to receive them and judge their fruitfulness (1 Thess. 5:19-22). Nobody should deny that there are evil powers that would abuse the Church for their designs; the Church is a body of sinners led by the sinless Christ. But we do not believe that that is reason to turn away from the Spirit who speaks through the lowly. Edit/Revision: I would like to clarify that Catholic teaching defines Sacred Tradition as the body of truths revealed by Christ and the apostles and passed down, not necessarily recorded explicitly in Scripture, and in that sense Tradition is infallible. I conflated that definition with teaching as is presented by modern Church leaders. Similarly, there are specific conditional occasions in which the Magisterium can make definitive statements of teaching, though this is not the case of everything that a person says. An infallible teaching by definition necessarily has no conflict with Scripture, and so the Bible is a helpful and necessary metric against which teaching is to be tested.
55:51 this is why I have a huge issue with the Catholic faith. And I’m a cradle Catholic who has very recently started deconstruction of my faith. You’re never good enough to be saved and that aspect can bleed subconsciously into other areas of your life. It never resonated with me growing up and I think my life experiences that largely differ from my family members is what pushed me to dig. Oh and they don’t really “teach” you anything. I learned more in the last couple months than I did growing up going to church every weekend for 18 years and 12 years of private school. I feel like that could be done intentionally. My parents still think mass is the most important thing on the planet but never did or encouraged my siblings and I to crack a Bible. It’s being saved at face value and looking the look.
Start saying the rosary faithfully (all fifteen mysteries - birth of Christ, passion of Christ, resurrection of Christ) and all will be revealed to you. Submit your will to God and the Holy Spirit will lead you. If you fill your head space with holy things, you won’t question your salvation. It’s not an easy thing to do, but it’s necessary.
@@nicolettelindsey6902 SAYING this IS NOT MYSTERY and they are full.of LIES CATHOLISM IS FALSE RELIGION Praying these so called PRAYERS and SPEAKING of Mary IS RIDICULOUS you all have another Mary
Mike your ability to contend is mind-blowing, it wears me out, I think it's a gift from God, and I'm not sure how to thank a Christian who is obviously doing God's will, but I listen until I'm worn out. Cheers and Blessings. TG
@Mike Winger have you heard Dr. Scott Hahn? His story, his scriptural studies that led him to Catholicism? I would be interested in a discussion between the two of you on Catholicism and apologetics!
I am so happy that I was blessed to lead out of darkness and into the Light of the world, Jesus Christ. Thank you Holy Spirit !! Praise God and our Lord Jesus Christ
I was baptised as a child in the Mormon club, but wasn't saved until a full 20 years later. Still trying to organize a proper baptism, but finding a church in England that isn't pro-abortion is difficult for people without motor vehicles :L
I went to this 17th century church built by Christopher ren in london, nothing but queer theology 😭 many historic churches in England have to rely on music services in order to even stay alive. But there's this one church built in the 16th century called metropolitan tabernacle in elephant and castle. Think what you will about Baptist's but at least this church is not compromising theology to adhere to worldly social issues.
You don't need a priest to baptize you! Any Christian can baptize any other Christian. Baptism is just a public declaration that you beleive that Jesus is the Lord of your life! That you beleive that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected on the 3rd day and is now seated at the right hand of the Father. That you are declaring your faith in Christ and that you are declaring to the world that you trust in Him for salvation and that He is God! Nowhere does it say a priest or pastor needs to baptise you! It doesn't have to be in a fancy baptism tank in the church. It can be in a puddle on the side of the road! The Eunic was literally baptized on the side of the road in a puddle! You don't have to wait for a special occasion, and you don't have tonwait to take a "baptism class" or anything else! Find another mature Christian who you love and trust and ask them to baptize you! Again, there is zero requirement in scripture that it must be a priest or an "ordained pastor' or anything like that! God bless you!
I believe you don't need a church to baptize you. Us Bible believing, following Christians can do that for you. John the Baptist did this alone. The Eunuch was baptized alone.
I must say you handled this with much love and Grace. This is very well done. There is so much more to be said and I believe you had a hard time holding back the "much more", but very gracefully done. Thank you very much for sharing your evidence & understanding of catholicism. I have come out of babylon and truly appreciate this, as I find myself currently defending my new faith to an old friend and trying to lovingly show the error of what is being taught in the church. So thank you for this.
Thank you so much for this video, Mike. I’ve been working with my girlfriend on shedding light onto what’s actually going on in the RCC and how the gospel is made simple, but they make it dubiously complicated
*CANON I.* -If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema. Mike Winger just took advantage of your ignorance, nothing more. Notice how he just invites some submissive woman to agree with him on everything and doesn't bother accepting Trent Horn's request to have a friendly chat, or any other Catholic theologian for that matter. His so called "research" is a joke. You want me to prove to you that it is a joke? Simple. He never qualified the word "merit" when quoting the canon of Trent, and he said he did not understand what merit meant there, and yet he didn't mind making absurd conclusions about works salvation and all the basic ignoramus Protestant claims. The canon he quoted on merit was about condign merit, not strict merit, i.e merits within a promise not within a law. For example if God tells you to go kill your own son, and you obey and go up to the mountain, then God is still not obliged to give you any reward, but because he loves you he will give you a reward, it is condign not strict. If you didn't go up to the mountain you would have no merit, and God would not call you Abraham. *CANON II.* -If any one saith, that the grace of God, through Jesus Christ, is given only for this, that man may be able more easily to live justly, and to merit eternal life, as if, by free will without grace, he were able to do both, though hardly indeed and with difficulty; let him be anathema. *CANON III.* -If any one saith, that without the prevenient inspiration of the Holy Ghost, and without his help, man can believe, hope, love, or be penitent as he ought, so as that the grace of Justification may be bestowed upon him; let him be anathema. *CANON IV.* -If any one saith, that man’s free will moved and excited by God, by assenting to God exciting and calling, nowise co-operates towards disposing and preparing itself for obtaining the grace of Justification; that it cannot refuse its consent, if it would, but that, as something inanimate, it does nothing whatever and is merely passive; let him be anathema.
The Gospel is about loving God with all of your being every day of your life, that's it. It is not simply about knowing Jesus exists, it is about having him as your Lord. Very simple, but Protestant heretics just seek for some golden nuggest of irresponsibility they can clutch to and call it a day, never fear Jesus' commandments again and "sin boldly" as Martin Luther puts it.
Destynation Y why do you generalize Protestants? Who cares about Luther. That was a time of darkness and corruption within the RCC. No one is claiming he’s the most intelligent man of his time. He was fallible, just like the Council of Trent was. Most Catholics aren’t even aware of what Trent teaches, because it boldly goes against what many Catholics believe today
What are your takes on some of the recent Catholic apologetics books? I’m finding trouble when reading Trent Horn’s recent book “The Case for Catholicism”... Any chance you’d do a debate with Trent Horn?
@@travislewis2991 Oh, he is. I'm not Catholic, but Trent gave him a run for his money. Mike's issues with Catholicism are presuppositional in nature. Catholics don't even believe in the Catholicism that keeps most protestants in Protestantism (per their presuppositions). I recommend that you watch it.
Lovey Its true! Trent destroyed Mike in the rebuttal video! Mike just keeps putting out this bad theology! Convincing people to leave the one true church of Jesus Christ....Catholicism!! Sad! Shameful!
Wow.. Ok, so I’m a Protestant becoming Catholic who has only been studying this stuff for a few years. Even so, every single point you made, I knew of a counter argument for, most of it actually being scriptural, that ruins the arguments you’ve presented. Scriptures that I’m sure you’re well aware of too, which is why I found it so incredibly frustrating. Nonetheless, I have to take the time out of my day to write all of this down in an organized response now to set the record straight for anyone who saw this video. So you will see another comment soon, which will be that. I hope it can be fruitful and edifying. If you truly didn’t know some of the things I’m going to include in my next response, I don’t know how- It’s all over the internet. This is not high level stuff that you have to sift through theology books to find.
Have you guys noticed that literally EVERY OTHER system outside of Bible believing Christianity (I refuse to call it protestant) lessens Jesus in some way? Some even do it to a Satanic, mockery level. The Jesus of the Bible is never good enough in these systems. If that isn't Satan, IDK what is.
@@rafaeliacsity5315You just completely ignored what the New Covenant stands for... The New Covenant does not abolish the Law, but instead writes them in our hearts and minds, and to do them out of love for Jesus. (Hebrews 10:16) The Law (10 Commandments) are still extremely relevant, and we do them out of love, not for salvation. And those who teach others not to do them are liars. (1 John 2:4, Matthew 5:19, 1 John 5:2-3, John 14:15, Matthew 19:16-18. Romans 3:31) If Christ was truly the "end" of the Law (a lot of people refer to the Ten Commandments), how come James and John and even Paul still endorse them? Besides, without the law, how could we know what sin is? It wouldn't even exist! Because sin is the "transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4). Remember, we don't keep the law to be saved; we are saved by grace through faith, but Commandment/Law-keeping makes that faith manifest. I'll pray for you my friend. God bless you! 🙏🏼❤️
Have you ever considered debating or even just having a discussion with a leading Catholic apologist or something on this stuff? I think something with someone like Trent Horn, for example, would be really interesting and fruitful for everyone involved.
My question is why? Why get it second hand when we can get it straight from Catholic writings? Why get it from someone who is deceived and being lied to when we can get it straight from Catholic writings. And from the writings its clear Catholics teach another Gospel. "But my ...... doesnt teach this". They all fall under the Pope and under Rome as Rome claims the be over all churchs that uses its name and theology. So like it or not its the truth.
@@devjono Full disclosure, I'm a Catholic. And I would object to the way he presents a lot of these quotations from the various councils and the catechism, as well as the ways he interprets certain scripture passages. I also think there are fundamental problems with Christianity without a central governing body. He also completely mischaracterizes certain core tenants of Catholic theology. I don't really want to get into a debate in this comment section, but I do think it would be helpful to have dialogue and an opposing perspective for everyone to see. And if the two viewpoints clash and one of them really does appear more rational, that will lead significantly more people to the truth, which is a good thing no matter what.
@@jmwilson100 i understand but it also works in the opposite direction. Take James White and Trent debate. Protestants say James White was right. Catholics say Trent was right. Sometimes it just doesnt help. And like I said. Why? We have Catholic writings from your infallible Popes. And from these writings we can show its another gospel. We dont need anyone to interpret it for us.
@mike winger God bless you! I completely agree with you about the catholic church. Please have a discussion with sam shamoun , he's beginning to be blinded by tradition.
Jesus started the one Catholic church. Mike protests it. Sounds crazy? It is crazy! There is no salvation outside the Catholic church. If you follow Mike, you are in danger.
@@johnyang1420 you really need to do your research man, i don’t want to be a jerk but have you actually read the Bible? It doesn’t sound like it if that’s what you think.
@@Tonyinthestony Im not trying to be a jerk, but I do read the bible a lot. Jesus started Catholic church. You and Mike are against it. There is no salvation outside the Catholic church. You and Mike are not going to heaven. Your choice.....you can change that....but you probably wont.
Terrific we've got Mike Winger to tell the world what is true Christianity. Mr. Winger, I am a Catholic. Tell me if I left the Catholic Church, which church do I join?
Good on you brother. I was not Catholic but an uninformed believer with Catholic family and I know how it feels to be rejected because it happened to me once I was saved by the Lord. My support to you
@TradCat Sister the Church of Jesus Christ has to be corrected at times including its leaders. Just like Paul corrected Peter. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, not the Church. If a group points you to something or someone as preeminent before Jesus Christ that leads to error.
@TradCat Sister unfortunately for you and those of your persuasion there is ZERO Scriptural evidence to support the office of the Papacy, it simply isn't there. That's why the emphasis (by you and others like you) and overreach on verses that point to the Church as God's vessel for HIS truth, because that enables any Biblically invalid interpretation of verses as somehow authoritative. Those Jedi-mind tricks (for lack of a better term) don't work on a Bible believing saint of God, because we see the weak foundation of such nonsense. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
The supremacy of the Pope and submitting to doctrine is what actually made me become Catholic. The non-denominational churches could or would never answer my questions. I was always told to just pray about it and see what God says. Having a core set of beliefs, rules and guidelines has actually given me the freedom to enjoy and worship our God. Before Catholicism, I questioned every pastor and their teachings. Now I just trust in a 2000 year old theology to interpret scripture for me. I know that may sound wrong, but I am not a smart man or well read man. When I tried reading and interpreting the Bible for myself, I steered myself into some dark corners. I truly needed the help of a Church I trusted to teach me what God was saying.
Your experience is why "Sola Scriptura" is a flawed idea. Even Martin Luther lamented the idea that some random milkmaid would think she could interpret the Bible for herself.
The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth (God’s word is truth), not the Church, Pope, or Priest. The Church does not decide who gets the Spirit and who does not. That is Jesus’ role. Your intellect does not hinder you from understanding God’s plan for you and the world. The apostles were common men but they had God’s word (Old Testament) written on their heart. The same can be true of you but in Catholicism too many unbiblical beliefs have been laid upon people that study of God’s word suffers. I pray you seek God with all your heart, mind, and strength because you can’t rely upon your priest to do that for you.
@@jamescampbell3605 The church is led by the Holy Spirit, because the church is the authority not your own personal opinion of the bible i.e. false sola scriptura doctrine. Now who among the 40K+ protestant denominations should I listen to that is guided by the Holy Spirit?
I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic schools, and thought of myself as Catholic until about 10yrs ago. When I read the Bible looking for a deeper understanding. And I started to see how much the church's teaching were at odds with the Bible. Also the priests became defensive and upset. So I'm very interested in hearing this
@@sorenpx Vindicated, would be the best way to describe the feeling. I mean you have to understand, I was all in and bought into everything 100 percent ever since I was a kid. I even considered the priesthood for a time after high-school, but I felt like I would've literally felt a calling, if that's what the Lord wanted. It was hard for me to accept that so many of the teachings are downright heresy and blasphemy. Especially the sacraments of communion and confession. Some of that stuff is still so ingrained, like not eating meat on Friday's during lent, or getting palms and ashes on ash Wednesday. But they have kind of a sinister connotation now, knowing what the Holy Spirt has helped reveal to me. Like Mike Winger said, I don't dislike or judge Catholic's but Catholicism it's self.
@@patrickspitlerjr2929 Thanks for the response. I did at one time seriously look into Catholicism, but the deeper I went the more it sounded like the Catholic church was literally just making stuff up. For instance, confession to a priest rather than directly to God, the Marian doctrines, and the teachings on mortal and venial sins were simply a bridge too far. I found all that, and more, literally unbelievable.
I'd be interested in what you found that were at odds with the Catholic faith. Every time I have a question or concern with the Catholic church I can actually find plenty of sources or reasons in the bible.
@@thovenach Okay. The first commandment, yet catholics worship Mary and the saints. The second commandment, no gravin images, yet they bow to the crucifix and disregard the second commandment completely and lump it with the third. The third commandment, to keep the sabbath Holy, the catholics changed the day from Saturday to Sunday, which is a Pagan Sun worship. Easter is a Pagan celebration of rebirth, that's why the catholics observe it on the third Sunday after the third new moon of the year and not during Passover. The solstice calendar is what the Lord gave to the Jews. Lunar calendar is Pagan and satanic. How about purgatory? Jesus's one time sacrifice wiped away our sin. Purgatory was established in order for the church to collect more money with the practice of indulgences. Indulgences are extra Biblical. The idea that salvation can only come through the catholic church and not from Jesus. The tradition of calling priests Father is a direct contradiction to Jesus telling us to not call anyone on Earth Father. The idea of the immaculate conception, which teaches that Mary was born without out sin, and a perpetual virgin. Yet Jesus had brothers and sisters. The false teaching that Mary Magdalen was a prostitute when the Bible states she was cleaned from seven unclean spirits, although I believe they've walked that one back in the last 20yrs. That only a priest can grant you forgiveness from sin, thus diminishing Jesus's sacrifice. Actually, all the sacraments are extra Biblical. They're works to obtain Grace and righteousness, when the Bible teaches that Grace is freely given and faith is attributed to righteousness. I mean seriously, the only few things that the Catholic church teaches that is Biblical is, the Holy Trinity, Jesus being both all God and all Man, and the crucifixion, death and resurrection on the third day. And they even get the days wrong with that due to the lunar calendar they follow. They, and I'm speaking of priests, bishops, cardinals, and the pope. Are quite literally the Pharasees of the Bible. Haven't you read that at the moment of Christ's death, that the veil in the temple was torn in two, thus granting everyone, Jew and gentile, access to the Most Holy, God the Father. With Jesus as our intermediary and the Holy Spirt as a comforter and bringer of Wisdom? The pope and the Vatican rule with a false power and teachings and tradition that are anti-Christ thus satanic.
Here in Paraguay which is mainly a Catholic country, people are beginning to read the Bible for themselves, and many are finding true salvation through Christ alone. Pope John 23rd actually told Catholics to read the Holy Scriptures! Whatever he meant by this, it was very good advice.
Reading the Bible is wonderful; it is self-interpreting it that can get weird........like resulting in thousands of denominations and non-denominations.........causing much confusion among the sheep.....see 2 Peter 1: 20-21.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3lno. Nobody self interpret the word of Christ. They tell you all this to continue to pull people from the truth The Holy Ghost born again Christians receive interprete the word of Christ Catholic say being sprinkled with water is born again but this is false. You must allow God to dwell in you supernaturally. This is born again baptized in the spirit. It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WATER GOD DOES NOT HAVE A MOMMY MARY WAS NEVER BORN SINLESS THERE IS NO PURGATORY GOD NEVER SENT A POPE PRAYING TO THE DECEASED IS NECROMANCY MARY HAD OTHER CHILDREN Why do they want to add to the Bible and then say oh but God didn’t say sola scriptura just so they can add and twist it to mean what they wan t. Instead of reading what it says and stop at the period.
Mike. with all due respect I think you've misunderstood what the Catholic Church teaches about works and merit. Catechism of the Catholic Church: 1996 "Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life." 2001 "The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace. This latter is needed to arouse and sustain our collaboration in justification through faith, and in sanctification through charity. God brings to completion in us what he has begun, "since he who completes his work by cooperating with our will began by working so that we might will it:" 2005 "Since it belongs to the supernatural order, grace escapes our experience and cannot be known except by faith. We cannot therefore rely on our feelings or our works to conclude that we are justified and saved." 2007 "With regard to God, there is no strict right to any merit on the part of man. Between God and us there is an immeasurable inequality, for we have received everything from him, our Creator." 2011 "The charity of Christ is the source in us of all our merits before God. Grace, by uniting us to Christ in active love, ensures the supernatural quality of our acts and consequently their merit before God and before men. The saints have always had a lively awareness that their merits were pure grace." Therefore all works are strictly products of grace, they are not our own, we lay no claim or boast in them. All merit belongs to Christ and his charity which sanctifies us. So I don't understand why people keep saying that Catholism adds works to grace or adds works to the gospel. It doesn't, Ephesians 2:10 "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them." John 15:5-7 "“I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. It is Christ's merits that are wrought in us, not our own and it is entirely dependant on grace.
As a Lutheran...the Eucharist and Baptism are a means of grace. We receive salvation through faith. Baptism and Eucharist continue to be tangible signs for us to know, remember, and embrace the grace we already received. These sacraments sustain our faith they aren't a work they are a reminder of God's work already done for us.
As a 30 plus year Protestant(Baptist, Evangelical, 4SQUARE), never had reverence or Sacraments. So life drew me towards Catholicism and knowing church history. I am happily in RCIA classes still. UA-cam Keith Nesters and Scott Hanh testimonies.
History? Isn’t history written by a victor? Why would I depend on it when I have the Bible. I was a cradle Roman Catholic and I thank God that I am no longer. Christ alone, grace alone through faith. I shall only boast in Christ and not in any congregation or institutional church.
I disagree. You are using the word grace too loosely. You say the Eucharist and Baptism are a means of “grace”. I would say a better explanation is that they are a public demonstration of our faith in Christ. You cannot ascribe grace to a deed or to win more of Gods favor. The “grace” we receive is because of Christs death on the cross. My sins are imputed onto Christ and Christs righteousness is given to me. Because of His death on the cross He can then say “it is finished.” Baptism and communion only looks back to the event.
In Lutheran theology, Baptism and Eucharistic are tangible signs of God's grace that serve as touch stones of tge Grace we have already received. Water is everywhere but we find it more readily at a well. The sacraments serve as a place we know God's grace can be found. It serves as nourishment and reminder in our walk of faith as disciples.
@@vickilarrabee8154 In the Sacrament of the Eucharist, we are spiritually present at the Crucifixion and receive the Body and Blood of Christ, as he commanded us in his new Covenant.
Catholics who practice their faith, meaning they attend Mass each Sunday, hear the gospel every week of their lives. The first half of the Mass is the Liturgy of the Word and we have three readings from Scripture. The third reading is always from one of the gospels. Additionally we pray a psalm. If one were to attend daily Mass one would have read the Bible in it’s entirety.
You can read the Bible in a week. I've known no Catholic who goes to daily mass. If you go to mass daily it takes 3 years to hear the whole Bible, and you hear it in a disjointed fashion. If you only attend Sunday's you'll likely never hear it all because of how the texts are rotated. I'm not coming with any animus or arrogance whatsoever. It's said with great pride that in three years you can hear the whole Bible, but the first time I actually listened when someone said that, my heart shattered a bit, truthfully, honestly. You might think I'm a fool for ever reacting that way, but how in the world did I ever hear that and find any contentment or comfort? I can read the whole Bible in a week. I can do a vigorous study of a book in a month. Hearing disjointed, out-of-context verses each Sunday is no comparison to reading it for yourself. Most people outside of Roman Catholicism don't know that the Bible is gone through over the course of years, but it's a fact that I don't find comforting or encouraging anymore. I now find it embarrassing because I ever believed it was comparable or a satisfactory response to a Protestant talking about Bible reading. My heart broke the first time I really listened and thought about the concept that it takes years to get through the Bible if you go to daily mass. How does that not break every Catholic's heart? I think we were just taught that it's great for so long that I didn't think about it, but once I thought about it, I changed. Even in this long blabbering I'm doing here I can feel myself changing again. And I apologize if I'm a little rambly; I haven't talked about this with anyone before, so it's kind of my raw thoughts a bit. Anyway. Sorry for taking your time, and thanks for your original comment. If there were more comments like yours that just inform people of details and stuff without being condescending or rude we'd have a much better time teaching and learning from one another. Comment sections like these are always a scary place to look through because there's often so much needless cruelty, and your comment was a breath of fresh air. So thanks, and I hope the rest of your week goes well ❤️
No. The catholics who learnt the bible must teach its followers or watch drammatic YT bible reading or YT "Mormon" reading. You need the Holy Spirit to understand the bible from time to time. Psalms were linked to events, but people use them at will.
I am thankful I'm SAVED thru Grace from a Holy God and My Faith in the WORK done for all sinners, by Christ on the Cross, who is also Holy God! Since Man is NOT perfect, and God can only see perfection, I'm thankful for God becoming Man and dying for our sin. I'm thankful when I die, God won't see me, he will see the blood of Christ shed for me. I feel sad for those who somehow think a Perfect God will accept the imperfect works of Man.
@@dragonslayer7587 Yup , Jesus was really hardcore on doctrine, if you didn't accept it , to hell you go........you people have studied the bible and pontificated about God and Jesus, but sadly you never let him into your soul
I don’t know where you get that catholics hear the gospel every week. I grew up in the RCC and was an alter boy. I went to catholic school. I never once heard the gospel. Nor did we ever see a bible in religion class. We used catechism workbooks. Listening to someone read the Bible is not the same as reading it yourself.
You are so kind, both of you. Know this; in the convent, the nuns each go into an empty room where the priest sits alone in an armchair. The nun kneels BESIDE the chair in full view and makes her confession😖.....and when ur done confessing, the priest adresses u by name😖 And says, "i absolve you, Sister Sean Patrick and for your penance, pray 6 Our Fathers and 6 Hail Marys, and 6 Glory Be s. Thank you, Father....😖 3rd Order of St Benedict in my history.
I was told as a kid who confessed to a priest I felt bad for thinking bad thoughts (thinking negatively... I was only a kid). He said to pray 50 hail Mary's. Then I asked God why I had to pray to Mary, and then felt guilty afterwards and felt condemned for that bad thought right after. It is never ending. You always feel condemned. You never get that feeling of full forgiveness ever. So you keep going back. I later asked if you can know if you are saved. They did not have an answer. It's because they don't teach it nor believe it and condemn those who do believe it. It's in the scriptures. Someone outside the church showed me.
There's a UA-cam channel called "The Ten Minute Bible Hour" and he did a video called "A Protestant Talks With a Catholic Priest". One of the things that the priest said that threw me for a loop is that Catholics hold the church above the Bible. There are plenty of other things I have issues with, but for this to be a doctrinal stance of the clergy opened my eyes. A personal story I have: My sister-in-law was raised catholic. She didn't even know who Noah was. She came over to Evangelical Christianity and has improved her life so much from actually digging into the word of God.
@@Michael-nb4ng And those he left behind to start the church said, "hey, this Bible is the word of God. Do not add or take away from it." So, that kind of answers that claim. Catholics add so much that has no Biblical foundation.
As a faithful and practicing Catholic there are some things I can clear up, not just what you say in the video, but also other misunderstandings I've heard. First, the Gospel is read and discussed at every mass, but people don't think Catholics ever read or learn the Bible. I've read the bible and have done Catholic Bible studies. Peter was the first Pope and was divinely appointed by Christ, who is God incarnate (which is in the Bible). The term Pope came later, but that's what Peter is referred to as now. Catholics do not believe that whatever the Pope says is infallible except in very specific circumstances. I see many comments from Catholics that haven't seemed to have made much of an effort to understand the faith on their own or to delve a bit deeper than what they've heard or read and that's to be expected with such a large number of people, some of whom are likely young, and being that there is such a long history of texts that were written. That's why lay Catholics are not Priests who must go through the Seminary and study the faith for years. I saw some comments about the Blessed Mother and the rosary that are misunderstandings too, and lack the historical context of the importance of these beliefs and prayers. The understanding of the Church Hierarchy also has a great deal of historical significance since the church was at one time more powerful in a "political" sense. Another fallacy here is that the teachings that exist outside the Bible are not divinely inspired. One thing I've noticed about many Protestant faiths is that they leave out the supernatural aspects of God's power as if God were not able to do something as miraculous as initiate a virgin birth. I could go on and I'm sorry that people haven't been able to answer all of your questions, there are plenty of answers though if you look them up for yourself. I'm not saying the Catholic Church is perfect and that people should become Catholics or that other faiths are bad, it's just that there are so many critiques of the Catholic church that are done without a real effort to truly understand it.
I agree. Catholics who become Protestant oftentimes do so on the basis of their misunderstandings and a lack of knowledge of the Catholic Faith. On the other hand, Protestants who convert to Catholicism, in the majority of cases, do so, as a result of their pursuit of the truth, which leads to an increase of wisdom. It is easy to see that this is true. One simply needs to compare the testimonies of Catholics who became a Protestants, such as the testimonies of many of the individuals in this comment section, versus the testimonies of Protestants who became Catholic.
Which version of the Bible did you read? Again the Catholic Bible is not the same as KJ. Mike speaks on this in the video. Reading the text as it was written. Thinking a priest has the power to forgive you of your sins should be a major red flag to anyone who knows Jesus and his message…
I am sorry you feel like the truth was not addressed, but you will admit Mike read from the actual Catholic texts when making his arguments? You say “this is misunderstood” and “you haven’t studied deeply enough” but you don’t offer any actual refutation of his points. For example, when he reads from the Council of Trent, how do you answer that the Council declared it is your works which qualify you for Heaven?
@@pelomocho8567 Mike said repeatedly that many if not all doctrines of the Catholic sect rose after the 4th century, and more came in the time of the 10th and 11th centuries. In other words, more than 70 councils = Catholicism has not always existed in its current form, and it has changed over time. He is addressing specific issues and how they arose in time, while your attempted rebuttal is woefully “meme”ish.
Former Catholic now born again Christian. I love what you guys do. You're thoughtful and sensitive about the topic. Unfortunately much of what stops ears from hearing is their heart/ sin or indeed politics. I grew up in northern Ireland where it was a huge thing to change faith. Switching sides from this Jesus to that Jesus got me in a lot of hot water at times. It's the same Jesus but sadly the doctrines are so far off the biblical text. Like you I believe there are Catholics who are saved but I think for a life of maybe only 70 years or less we are purposed to discover the truth. Also regarding JW stuff it's mad how many excats are going that way. Scary stuff guys. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
Excats, who left the Holy Catholic Church, are like the prodigal son in Luke 15: 11-32; and God is looking for them come home.......no questions asked.
Same here I am slowly getting away from the Catholic church. The church is so full of show, and money priests won't even advise church goers to read the bible.
Love your videos ❤️ I turned to Christ 3 years ago and your videos have explained so much biblical truth that I didn't understand! Please keep doing what you do ❤️
@@zorenleo I´ll try to answer your question.The question is: What do you mean "lead by the Holy Spirit". Do you mean that they were Christians and therefore the Holy Spirit inside of them let them. If that´s what you mean. I don´t know because I don´t know if they were Christians or not. If you mean that God led the process so that they would put together his Word then the answer of course is yes.
I have been struggling with Sin & Demons. And as a Roman Catholic I started going back to confession. However every time I walk on the grounds and see statues of saints, and a “white Jesus” on the cross I’m feeling I’m being mislead. The act of confessing has done nothing for me. And while I say the Hail Mary and our father the demons kept coming. It wasn’t until recently and videos from you and other Christians I’m starting to understand. A sincere thank you, I say to you.
We all struggle with sin and demons, that's literally why God sent His son to die on the cross. Pray to Jesus, not some man. Let God be true and every man a liar. Oh and what you see is a dead Jesus on the cross in a Catholic church. Every time you go to a Catholic church you have to look at a dead Jesus. Even though He is alive.
Whether you like it or not, Jesus died on a cross. And he was resurrected. They are both him. Wow, the devil really can access people's intellect and pride. That is why they write these horrible things. Jesus was a Jew. We don't know exactly what he looked like. Have faith. Just look at a humble Jewish person and that is roughly what Jesus looked like. Maybe you'll see him someday, but he may not be a person - like a light. Don't let your heart be so heavy. Look up divine mercy here on UA-cam. Some Protestants will attack Roman Catholics all day long. They are okay with listening to their interior hatred. The devil can reach the intellect and a person's pride.
@@metalforever12085 quote---You need to learn about Catholicism from Catholic theologians, not Pastor Mike who pulls out definitions in a religious context from a dictionary. unquote I WILL QUOTE FACTS to you: anf then tell me I pulled them out of a dictionary. FACTS" --The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11 --The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13 --The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41 ----FACTS: Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday) Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday) Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath). Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday) Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday) Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday) Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, (Sunday) John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one, John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover --FACTS: About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath" Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174. "The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893. "The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893. "Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day? "Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day. "Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday? "Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910. What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change of the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
You ought to talk about this in confession and ask your priest for spiritual direction. Abandoning the Church for heresy is not the answer. What is your concern about the statues of saints and the "white Jesus"?
Catholicism compared to what ??? Christ built ONE CHURCH........the Church with Peter and Mary.........see Acts 1: 8-14; and it was to that Church that He sent His Holy Spirit......see Acts 2.
I was born to Catholics. I went to 8 years of Catholic School. I however at the age of 25 realized I NEVER read the Bible tho I claimed to believe it. So I started reading a King James Version a friend gave me. I told my husband we won’t change religion I just want to be closer to God. I got to Exodus & God said he is a jelous God & not to have images of anything in the heavens & not to bow down to them ….hmmm at my wedding I had to bow down in front of a statue of Mary & pray to her! I had statues in my house. I read call no man father but your father in heaven. I read have No mediator between you & god except Christ. So not the priest in the confessional?? It said Do not pray in vain repetition & gave an OUTLINE for prayer the our father so the rosary?? That I repeat ‘ repeat & repeat? Then in scripture someone said. Praise the womb you came from to Christ but Christ responded NO & pointing to the crowd said you are my mother & you my brother & you my sister. So no praising Mary? She is just a blessed woman. WOW as a Catholic this is news to me. Then to find out after Christ she was no longer a virgin Christ had brothers & sisters!! Joseph & Mary had children. After reading all of that. The entire Bible reading it. I knew it was either follow the tradition of men or is God the inerrant word of God. Yes J picked God & left the Catholic faith. I also prayed for the dead as a Catholic. Heck we had masses for the dead to pray them into heaven. When you are dead? It’s done. Absent from the body present w/ the Lord for those who are saved & Christ surely said you must be born again & Roman 6 explains dying to yourself & coming alive for Christ & Paul says do we continue in sin so that grace may abound certainly not!! To me Roman 6 sums up Baptism & the symbolism of Dying with Christ & yes as an adult I chose a Christian baptism out of obedience to God. A baby can’t chose. I took all the statues in my house & began boxing them to give my sisters who are still Catholic. Then it came on me it’s not good for you it’s not good for them. Throw them out & in that moment it was revealed of course God was right!!! As much as Zi said these religious statues of Mary & Jesus are just to remind me to keep me thinking of God but in the moment of tossing them I knew of course God is right bcz I felt like it was sacrilege throwing those objects away. So obviously they meant more to me then they should have. They are not little gods they are ceramic!!! Yes I was indeed glad I threw them out that was right. My children were 3 & newborn when I came to Christ & I raised them in the church & they married Christians & home school. I have been so very blessed. God did call me & delivered me from being a Catholic. I loved Jesus but I didn’t know Jesus & in my Catholic faith I had to be good to be saved. It was very works based. Jesus said it is finished & indeed it was or he died for nothing !! I know looking back that I was dead in that religion, in spite of that God called me to know him by knowing his word. I am humbled by his Grace & so unworthy. In Christ though I am made whole. In Christ , being washed in his blood I have eternal life !!!
🙏🙏
My husband is catholic by inheritance. He doesn't read the bible or go to church. I'm a Jehovah witnesses but I have started to lose faith in this community. I'm starting to realized that we are not different than the rest. The only thing that we differentiates us is that we don't believe in the trinity. I want to go and experience for myself what is like in other christian communities. But it's really hard for me to let go of the non-trinitarian believe. We decided to start going to mass on Sundays. But I feel very anxious. I know in my heart catholics have many traditions and I'm not sure if I can convert and still not follow all their traditions. Kinda like doing my own thing you know. If I know something is not biblical, I can choose to not participate. But then, I could pretty mu h do the same elsewhere😔😏😒🙏
@@SalvarezP I pray God takes you away from your cult and to Him
Beautiful testimony sister! You found the truth in Jesus! God bless you and your babies! ❤️
@@SalvarezP if I could offer one reason why you are losing faith, in these religions is exactly because of the fact that they are religions. There is only one genuine way, and it's the way of salvation through Jesus Christ. Being a Christian is not a religious denomination, it's the faith. Salvarez, I'm here to encourage you in the truth of the gospel. Jesus Christ is alive today, He dwells within born again believers. An encounter with Christ changes everything. It's spiritual and it's more than religion. The real Jesus Christ is the one we encounter, and if you call on Him and Him alone, He will save you and He will respond. The fabrications of religion keep people in bondage and they become spiritually dead. Ma'am, if you look at it through the lense of religion, it will be easy to lose faith because it's not anchored in the foundations of Christ. Seek Jesus for yourself, read the gospel for yourself believe in Him and Him only, cry out to him be honest where you're at ask him to help you and I promise you he will answer. I promise you. Thousands of testimonies exist in the name of Jesus, people being saved, salvation itself is a beautiful gift and it's real and I want to to know it's bigger than religion, it's relationship, it's not about works, ma'am that's what makes it genuine, not religion. Seek Jesus for yourself, believe in Him, believe that He is. Ma'am that's where the birth happens, faith in Christ saves. I promise if you seek Him, you call on His name. He will find you, I promise. Don't let Satan and the religion and even opinions of loved ones try to change you for doing other wise. I know you're confused, scared and tired, but I promise you, Jesus is bigger and so much more than all this, and yes it's something you can have and it's not earned. I promise. Call out to Jesus, call out to him, with your heart. Be honest with Him but trust Him, even if it's as small as a mustard seed. God loves you and wants you to know the Truth, His love and mercies and grace are legit, have faith in God, not the people. I will be praying for you, God bless you and remember, He loves you and wants you to know that, Jesus wants your whole heart.. don't be convinced by the counterfeits, Jesus saves and He's the real deal. Call out to Him ❤️
I don't do good works to BE saved. I do them because I AM Saved.
See Matt. 5: 46-48.
This is true. We first have to be made "good trees" (saved) in order to bear "good fruit" (good works) (Mt. 12:30). But faith without works is dead. Jesus cursed the fig tree that failed to bear fruit in its season. If we claim to be born-again Christians, we will produce good works as naturally as a good tree bears fruit. If we do not bear fruit, the ax is laid to our roots and we are thrown into the fire (Matthew 3:10).
@@sidgar1........If YOU mean to be ' perfect,' see Matt.19: 21.
@@miketeixeira7853 Where did I say perfect? I just said we need to produce fruit as a result of our changed hearts.
@@sidgar1..........So.......who judges what is good fruit or not ??? Jesus judges, for only He can see our hearts......see Mark 12: 39-44.
Justice: Getting what you deserve. (as in: punishment)
Mercy: Not getting what you deserve. (punishment withheld)
Grace: Getting what you don't deserve. (as in: a blessing)
Grace does not equal Merit (having earned something). The Bible talks about Merit in Romans 6:23 - "The WAGES of sin is death,...". That is all we merit. But God gives Grace, Hallelujah!
Amen! I have to use that one.
This was amazing! Thank you!
Loved this explanation. Very succinct.
Romans 2:6-11 corrects all of you!
@@harleymann5711 Taken out of context, perhaps. For example, those verses say, "but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good", but the Bible says that there are None who do good. It also says, "He will render to each one according to his works", but we've "all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God," and "there is none without sin." So we'll all go to Hell, if there is no grace. Read those verses literally and out of context, and there is no such thing as mercy or grace, only justice, i.e., getting what we deserve. But we all deserve Hell! Everything must be read in context, my friend. :)
59:25 This hit me really hard. I’m a protestant at a catholic conference right now and they have been trying to convert me. 2 guys who genuinely believe what they say have been saying things about the catholic church that made sense in isolation, but after this video it solidified my faith in Christ alone! Thank you Mike!
A protestant at a Catholic Conference. Sadly, this is how satan works to infiltrate the Church.......see Acts 20: 29.
@@Michael-nb4ngwow that remark is completely uncalled for and very ungodly. Very sad indeed
Jesus warned us that the gates of hell will attack but not prevail......see Matt. 16: 18-19.@@Notevenone
Use your head.
@@Michael-nb4ng
Protestantism is precisely the gate of Hell attacking the only church established by God.
"The gospel is extremely complicated" in Catholicism. Yes. I was raised Catholic and began drifting away because of the weight of "the rules." The balance scales are a heavy burden, you can't win.
Then The Jesus People (from the Jesus Revolution in San Diego) came to town and I heard the gospel in its simplest terms. I could hardly believe it. I was floored. And I received it. Never looked back. It's 53 years later and I am still growing in the grace and knowledge of God, forever grateful for what Jesus did on the cross.
Thank you for this excellent exegesis.
The gospel message is to repent and believe, this is what is taught in catholicsm I should know I’m catholic and find it simple enough I’m only average intelligence,ish 😊
@@toneyh1 I don't think you're listening to your own church. You can do so much more for your salvation in Catholicism, including engaging on the vatican's social media (see the vatican decree made for World Youth Day special indulgences). The vatican can flippantly grant pardon from punishment like this, making a mockery of Jesus' cross, and using false authority to promote their own events and activities. Repenting and believing has never been enough in the Catholic church.
No, it is not complicated.
It has been very poorly taught.
And it is also not true that we think we get to Heaven by works
@@estherdavis4802 you may not think that. And protestants love you and rejoice with you. Get your church surely does teach salvation by works. That’s why you need to earn indulgences and pray to dead people to pray to God for you. In the true good news of the Christian way Christ Jesus does everything for you even giving you a new heart which brings you closer to Him and to other believers.
@@christineploeg1992 YOU = your ( Catholic ) church surely does teach salvation by works.
ME = .Sadly, Protestants have gotten their doctrines totally wrong. Despite claiming " Sola Scriptura " meaning that the Bible is their sole authority, they have based their doctrines on just 2 " cherry-picked " and non-Gospel ( meaning not the Gospels according to Matthew, Mark, Luke & John ) verses that of Romans 10:9 and Ephesians 2:8-9.
Protestants should be basing their doctrines on the 4 Gospels which the Heavenly Father sent Jesus to be as well as to teach us the Way, Truth and Life back to The Father and which are essentially TOUGH LOVE messages =If you love Me, keep My Commandments, especially the Love of God and neighbour, even enemies.
Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24.
Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matt. 4. Jesus dismissed Satan because Christianity is the way of the Cross.
Moreover, Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25 and declared that the final Judgement is based on Works of Mercy = Matthew 25.
Even Paul, like a faithful Christian= boasted =of the Cross -Galatians 6:14,
Moreover, God has - expectations - and requires - MORE - from Christians because we have the perfect example of Jesus - Luke 12:48
Catholics believe that Jesus came down from Heaven to pay the penalty of Adam's sin which closed Heaven's gates and placed " Original Sin " on all Adam's descendants - you & me. " It is finished " was Jesus' cry of mission accomplished and that Heaven's gates were now opened. And Baptism is a one-time = grace = event that washes away all our past sins, but we are still responsible for all sins afterwards. This is exampled by God's " execution " of Ananias & Sapphira from the 1st Christian = Faith = community for just dishonesty and lying just = after = Jesus' heavenly ascent = Acts 5.
The importance of Works as well as sacramental Confession, Holy Communion and Mass.
===========================================================================
Because He was going away, Jesus empowered His Apostles to forgive sins = or = retain them = John 20:22-23.
Moreover, Jesus declared that His Flesh & Blood was = Real = food & drink = for Eternal Life = John 6:53-58.
And the 1st Christian Faith community = devoted themselves to the Apostles teaching, to the breaking of Bread and The Prayers = Acts 2:42 = which has evolved into the Catholic Mass.
Moreover, Jesus urged Prayer, Fasting & Almsgiving and Good Works which are rewarded by The Father who sees in secret = Matthew 6.
On the other hand, Protestants believe that Jesus' death on the cross satisfied for all sins, past, present and future. If that was the case there would be = NO DEVILS, the Other Thief on the Cross would also be promised paradise, and the Heavenly Father would not need to chastise and scourge = every = child before admitting them into Heaven = Hebrews 12:6.
And By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, Protestants have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity.
Jesus declared that Faith was the means by which He was able to perform miracles especially of healing = Your Faith has made you well ! However, for salvation, it is Faith + Works = James 2:14 = especially that of LOVE of God & neighbour, even enemies.
Protestants beware !!! Your salvation is at stake. Kindly heed God's Tough Love messages.
Remember, outside Catholicism there is NO salvation
I need prayers to strengthen my faith in Jesus Christ. My Saviour and King.
Prayed for ya and will continue❤
Thanks. And i will pray for you. God Bless
As often as I remember to
And I would ask for the same
Amen, brother. We all do! God bless you and keep you, the LORD look upon you and be gracious to you, the LORD make His face to shine upon you and give you peace.
I pray that God will strengthen you to know, if you are in Jesus (I trust that you have put your trust in Jesus alone for your salvation), just more and more the dimensions of the love of God for us who are in Christ. Amen.
You have spoken the truth in love Mike. I was raised in the Catholic church but walked out when I was 12 and Jesus Christ found me at 23. It has been 46 yrs of continuing adventure, exciting growth & joy in spite of some hard things. All praise & glory to God because of Jesus Christ our Lord & Saviour.
At 12 yrs. YOU walked out of YOUR Father's House and found adventure. At 12 yrs. Jesus was found in His Father's House and said , " I must be about My Father's business", and loved us to death.........see Luke 2: 49.
@@miketeixeira7853 Do you think your comment is useful here in any way?
@@miketeixeira7853 What an interesting observation.
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy..........Could be !!! It is also one of the sacraments that the RCC teaches..........the sacrament of Confirmation. It is also the fifth of the Joyful Mysteries of the Rosary.
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy Were you very sensible at 12 to walk away from anything for good?
As a Catholic I really appreciate your kind and thoughtful approach to Catholicism instead of just bashing us like most Protestants do
Protestants do not bash Catholics. They bash the Falsness of the CC!
Question, what about the Catholics who bash the protestant?
@@kylemcdonough9830 most Protestants are reminded of how their ancestors were burnt at the stake by an all powerful Roman Church. So have mercy on them too. It’s also not about ignorant Catholics as much as the system they are in.
Appreciate for your nice comment unlike most catholic bashing protestant. God bless 🙌
I was a Catholic for 22 years and realised I was a sinner and didn't know Jesus whatsoever! I gave my life to Christ and now I just walk with God and build my relationship with God through reading his beautiful word! I have been born again! John 6:29
Unbelievable !!! So who do YOU think the confessional was for ??? Sorry that YOU were not taught that the RCC is the hospital for sinners and Jesus is the Divine Healer.
"I have been born again! "
You were Born Again scripturally when you were baptized.
"didn't know Jesus whatsoever!"
Sounds like you never took time to learn your faith. I suspect you seldom went to Mass, where you received his Resurrected Body and Blood in the Eucharist, a means for receiving his Grace. So too, a relationship with him, instituted by HIM, that no protestant has.
@@Michael-nb4ngthe confessional, for most Catholics I know, is the thing you have to do occasionally so you can continue in sin.
Hi, I’m not sure why you thought you couldn’t get to know Jesus as a Catholic. But ok.
@@Michael-nb4ng a sinful priest does not have authority to forgive sins.
“For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”
1 Corinthians 14:33 KJV
If God is not the author of confusion, then tell me exactly what someone must believe to be a Protestant.
Sola Scriptura? Methodists do not believe this
Sola Fide? Lutherans reject this
If all I need to do is profess that Jesus is Lord, well Jesus Himself rejects this claim (Matthew 7:21)
Jesus also prayed that His Church should be one as he is one with the Father, yet you have various denominations preaching things that are contradictory on things like Baptism and the Eucharist, so to what extent should I stop listening to Lutheranism and start listening to Calvinism? If is just whatever I say is true, than am I not placing myself over Scripture?
I feel like Sola Scriptura in practice devolves into what I have termed "Sola Me-de" that the individual decides what Scripture means, because there is no singular correct interpretation that is taken to be authoritative. Does Christ speak with one voice or over 180 (an estimate of the number of Protestant denominations)? I think all the Protestant denominations that exist are pretty confusing don't you?
@@alexanderkaufman3575methodists and Lutheran’s are not the standard. The Bible is the standard. As for your objections. Don’t quote parts of verses. You must confess and believe in your heart that Jesus is lord to be saved. It has to be real. And make no mistake, the church of Jesus Christ IS one!! We from every nation and denomination agree on 99.9% and we do so without threatening eachother with anathemas !! That’s only you guys who curse the people of God.
@@alexanderkaufman3575 these things are elementary. So study your Bible and stop looking to corrupt institutions of mankind for your final authority. Especially cults like the Roman Catholic ’church’.
@@christineploeg1992in not Catholic but this is not a Christian way to speak to someone.
Indeed. That is why am no longer Protestant, but Catholic
Thank you for your grace in discussing this. I'm in turmoil. My head is swimming. My heart is bothered. But I will pray to Jesus Christ for guidance.
I hope you find the answers your heart seeks. Jeremiah 29:13
Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24.
Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matthew 4. Jesus also rebuked Peter as Satan when Peter tried to dissuade Jesus from His path of sufferings and death. And Jesus did not take the sour wine offered to Him whilst on the Cross to deaden the pain. And Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25.
==== Christian Rule of Thumb is that if anything is hard/difficult, it is from God. On the other hand, if it is -easy - it is from the devil ========
The fact is that there are Catholics who leave the Faith because they say it has too many rules and regulations. Of course, they don't realize it is that rules and regulations are like Commandments which were God issued so that these create a boundary beyond which the devil like a roaring is prowling about seeking somebody to devour.
On the other hand, Protestantism has no rules and regulations, no requirements and only promises - Easy Christianity and cheap Grace.
List of - Hard - Facts = Commandments - Love God and Neighbour, including Enemies; God's Testing; Strive to enter Heavenly narrow gates for Few will enter - Mat. 7:14 & Luke 13:23-24; Confess to another - John 20:22-23; Eat My Flesh, drink My Blood - Real Food - for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58; Jesus' Parables requiring the multiplication o Talents, becoming more fruitful "soil," wise "virgins" carrying oil, etc.; Vengeance is Mine, I will repay; Fasting, Prayer and Almsgiving = Rewarded by the Father who sees in secret - Matthew 6. Jesus urged the necessity of praying always - Luke 18:1. Thus Catholics have adopted the responsibility of praying for others, just as Jesus urged Peter to pray and thereby strengthen the others - Luke 22:32.
List of - Easy - Facts = With Faith alone, one is saved and name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, never to be erased; God's Commandments and Testing have been overtaken by Jesus' sacrifice and covered with His Precious Blood. Thus the Guarantee - Absent in the Flesh, present with the Lord, forever; The 4 Gospels were meant for the - lost - people of Israel. Now there is a new covenant in the Blood of the Lamb which means - Once Saved, Forever Saved; Works are unnecessary for Salvation and are boastful; Marriages that end in - easy - divorce and remarriages.
What is the Gospel Message ??
The 4 books of the Bible, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are titled - The Gospel - according to Matthew / Mark / Luke / John. This was the same Gospel message revealed to Paul by Jesus - Galatians 1:12 - which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus and which Paul proclaimed - verbally - on his missionary journeys.
Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with, as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to and to whom he had previously preached - verbally - the Gospel. Besides, 2 of Paul's letters have gone missing - see 1 Cor. 5:9 and Col. 4:16
Common sense would therefore dictate that we place our doctrines and belief systems first and foremost on these Gospels, and keep everything else secondary. This is because our Salvation is the most important question we will ever face.
It is thus obvious that these Epistles are way-down secondary to the 4 Gospels which Jesus brought from the Heavenly Father's mind and heart for our Salvation.
Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead - of the 4 Gospels. They have created doctrines that require no Confession as per Jesus' formula, denial of the - Real Presence - of Jesus in Holy Communion, and the need for Good Works despite that the Great Judgement is based on Works - Matthew 25. By declaring that only Faith is necessary for Salvation, they have effectively cancelled the Cross - the very symbol of Christianity. Yet even Paul, like a faithful Christian, boasted of the Cross -Galatians 6:14,
Will they be raptured ? Will they be saved.?
Has there ever been a storm where by the intercession of Mary has been quelled? Or is by your faith in God? However you live your life are you more deserved heaven than the man who Jesus saved who was crucified next to him?
@@fredfreeman7230 no one is more deserving than another it is on acceptance of the gift of salvation is for everyone and anyone ❤❤❤
Have you figured anything out? I feel the same. Raised in a Catholic family but just now learning what it means to be Catholic and it’s making me question everything.
Born and raised Catholic. Went to a Protestant church on the North Shore of Oahu. First time I heard the Bible taught. They were reading from the gospel of John Chapter One. The Holy Spirit opened my heart when I heard John’s gospel read. I then researched Catholicism and never went back. I’m so thankful for God opening my heart to receive the true gospel of Jesus Christ.
At every Mass the OT prophesies are read, followed by a psalm of longing; then we stand for the NT fulfillment of Jesus. Don't know how YOU never heard the Bible. Enjoy YOU Protestant Church, for there is where God wants YOU for now.
At EVERY Catholic Mass scriptures read or sung today's is First Reading Acts 14:5-18,
Responsorial Psalm, Psalms 115:1-4, 15-16, Gospel John 14:21-26
Yesterdays>>>First Reading Acts 9:26-31, Second Reading 1 John 3:18-24,
Gospel
John 15:1-8
Are you serious!? You must have fallen asleep for the Liturgy of the Word then, or just never went to a Catholic Mass. I find it impossible to believe you NEVER hear the Bible as a Catholic. It just does not check out.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3l
You claim the church reads these scriptures, but none of them support many of the doctrines that the Catholic Church claims. It's one thing to say you read the Bible. It's another thing to understand and interpret it correctly.
@@clarenceappleton2915 Self-interpretation is pride, and pride is satan's realm......see 2 Peter 1: 20.
I think you could have a great, thought provoking conversation with Michael Knowles (of the DailyWire), he's a very intellectual Catholic on top of his political commentary
i second this
Nah, Roman Catholicism is indefensible Too much heresy
@@toolegittoquit_001 so just let your brothers and sisters perish? Or would you rather have them have a conversation and possibly save some souls?
Michael Knowles is great. Klavan is my favorite, but Knowles is MUCH more in touch with where we are and what we need to do to help recover morality.
I disagree that he'd be good for Winger to talk to, though. When Knowles is pressed about a theological point from a Protestant he gets a little surfer-dude, can't-we-all-just-get-along-y. He speaks very freely with other Catholics, but his main concern is bringing Protestants back into the fold of Roman Catholicism rather than truly wrestling with our greatest disagreements.
I'd LOVE to see them have a sit down, but I don't think it serves either of their goals because Winger just wants to focus on expositing the Scriptures as they are, and Knowles wants to focus on bringing all denominations under one banner.
I think if they both had the same mission, to not dance around our true, important disagreements and to find where we truly do and don't shake hands in order to better understand one another and be honest with one another without fear, THAT would be cool and a true powerhouse discussion. But Winger just wants to exposit scripture and Knowles wants everyone under the Catholic banner, and with two different mission statements I don't think the conversation would be as amazing as you and I would wish for.
If ever there's a time where they're both on the same page about wanting to have that kind of conversation then I'd be BEYOND thrilled because they both genuinely care about their beliefs, genuinely enjoy learning and understanding, genuinely enjoy thorough intellectual rigor, and have come to their opinions after a lot of thought. We'd learn a lot about both sides that way.
Very happy to find a Knowles fan out in these corners!
@@bufficliff8978 You speak as though Mike's mission is somehow a negative. The duty of ALL believer's should be to exposit Scripture because therin lies the ONLY source of truth. It is not on Mike to somehow compromise and meet Knowles half-way. It is on Mr. Knowles to be intellectually honest be teachable and to seek the truth of God above all others with humility.
(I am a Michael Knowles fan myself.)
Tonight we had a baptism service and a lady's testimony touched me. She spoke about how she realized Jesus did it all on the cross, and how she didn't have to do anything to earn salvation. I talked to her after service and she told me this video helped her understand salvation. God had led me to this video this week, so we could commiserate. Keep up the good fruit brother Mike!
But there is John 20: 19-23.
I haven't watched this video yet, but she didn't have to do anything to earn Salvation?
What about repenting of her sins?
Or changing her ways?
What about Baptism?
I never understand this about Protestant thinking. So please respond and let me know what I’m thinking wrong but,
Jesus dying on the Cross gave us the OPPORTUNITY to choose him and live the correct life.
We don’t automatically go to Heaven because he died for us. By dying he erases our sins if we repent and do what he told us. God doesn’t force us to go to Heaven he gives us free will to choose because love is a choice. So to choose we live the correct life and therefore have our sins erased.
Now if we just do whatver we want and don’t care what we do cuz Jesus died so your fine and can do whatever. Do you really care about Jesus. No. How can you. You don’t live how he told you so your not choosing him and therefore your sins don’t get erased because you didn’t want them to you didn’t care about Jesus.
If you murder tons of people and then die, you broke commandment. If Protestants don’t believe in mortal and venial sins then if that lady lived mostly good but committed small sins she also would’ve broken commandments why would that first person go to Hell and this lady wouldn’t.
At the end of the day saying you don’t have to do anything is just a cop out of what Jesus did for us and taking the easy way and verifying for yourself that you can sin and do whatever you want so you can make yourself feel better about sinning and tell yourself you’ll still go to Heaven.
@@granthintz5111that’s not the point.
Salvation is achieved through faith and repentance. “By grace you have been saved through faith.” Ephesians 2:8
It’s when you are already saved that you start to change through the power of the Holy Spirit.
If I keep punching you and saying sorry to you for doing so but keep making a practice of punching you am I truly sorry? No. It’s through repentance and faith that the Holy Spirit changes us, making us feel disgusted by our sins and making us feel pleasure in our faith and conviction.
So someone who’s truly saved who’s truly born again will not keep sinning because to be truly saved is to repent of your sins and have them washed away.
Through faith good works come.
Through faith we become kinder, more loving, more merciful and less sinful people.
Are born again Christians still victims of temptation? Of course. But they don’t make a practice of it and repent after failing.
@@THE-WAY_THE-TRUTH_THE-LIFE. but it feels so easy and nice 😅we are lazy humans and if you present these two options as if they are both valid and let’s say they were then 100% of humans would choose Sola Fide. Welcome to Relativism where your truth is valid and my truth is valid and we can ALL be right!!!! Kind of reminds me of the BIBLE where every man did what was right in his own eyes and we saw how that turned out. 😖
“In Christ alone my hope is found. He is my light, my strength, my song. This corner stone, this solid ground, firmed through the fiercest drought and storm. What heights of love, what depths of peace, when fears are stilled, when strivings cease! My comforter, my all in all. Here in the love of Christ I stand.”
the false sola scriptura doctrine is not your home. Christ did not declare "sola scriptura" and follow your own personal opinion of the bible
@@alfray1072 Nor the sacraments, nor talking to Mary or the saints. But Jesus DID say, "It is written"; and, "Have you not read?" a lot, referring to the text of the Old Testament. He also railed against man-made traditions a lot, and called out the Pharisees (who seemed to act a lot like the modern Catholic Church/Majesterium) in Matthew 23. Do as they say, not as they do. Follow the Old Testament law that they teach, but not the extra traditions.
@@blindvision4703 No. Jesus condemned the Pharisees because they had exchanged the commandments of God in favour of their traditions. Don’t manipulate that scripture to suit your hostility towards the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church agrees that one should never abandon scripture in favour of traditions
@@blindvision4703 The point is that Catholics aren’t claiming sola scriptura. You are, but then adding to scripture by doing so. So saying “neither the sacraments, nor speaking to Mary and the Saints were mentioned either” means nothing because we are not the ones claiming that scripture stands alone. You are.
@@alwayschasingjesus3452 2 Timothy 3:16-17:
"All Scripture is inspired by God, and is valuable for teaching us the truth, for reproof, for correction in wrongdoing, and for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God MAY BE COMPLETE, FULLY EQUIPPED for EVERY good work."
If Scripture can make me complete, why do I need the Pope? And if the Scriptures AREN'T sufficient, why do I need the POPE of all things? Why can't the Holy Spirit make up for whatever I lack?
Let's just say, hypothetically, Rome was suddenly razed to the ground, in one day, and all of the Vatican and everyone in it, including the Pope and all the Cardinals, were killed? Who would you go to now? More than that: what if EVERY Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox priest just suddenly dropped dead? Who would you go to? There are people who can memorize the Bible; name ONE person who's memorized ALL of church history and tradition. I'm just saying: the BIBLE teaches Sola Scriptura, not Scriptura et Ecclesia or whatever. And MY doctrine only relies on what Jews and Christians have been using for nearly 3500 years-God's holy, flawless, eternal word: the Bible.
i grew up as Roman Catholic and educated in catholic church then went to live wt RVM nuns for 2 yrs in the convent. That changed my thought about their holiness. I began to search the true meaning of a relationship wt Jesus. It was a long journey 11 yrs ago i was baptised as a Born Again Christian and 💯 % sure now of my salvation in Christ alone. I am heaven bound and rapture ready hallelujah
Jesus spoke about having a personal relationship with Him in Matt. 25: 31-40.......via the ' least of these.'
You were "Born Again" scripturally when you were baptized and part of the relationship with Jesus that you lost was receiving him, his Resurrected Body and Blood in the Eucharist, a means for receiving his Grace. Protestant grape juice and crackers is just that, nothing more, and a man-made 16th c invention.
O yes the born again vs Catholic lie I have heard so many times from the ‘ex catholic’ Maffia yawn
@@scwork445 😏 It seems that nuns have done a lazy work with you, or you haven't learned what they teached to you.
Sorry for you. 😏
@@TruthHasSpoken Sorry, l disagree. I was BORN AGAIN the moment l bowed my knee and personal will to the LORDSHIP of God Almighty and was filled with the Holy Spirit to make my human spirit ALIVE AGAIN after being born as an adorable baby human but covered with deadly original sin and DEATH. Jesus Christ IN His willingness to go to the Cross for ALL MANKIND paid the ransom for me ONCE and For ALL. HALLELUJAH!
One of the VERY few channels I watch ads for. 💯
FaithHopeGrace Ay, I’m tryna show some love for Mike. You should change your name to FaithHope cause you’re not showing any grace. 🙏
same here bro I love his content
If y'all have he funds, I definitely recommend UA-cam premium family subscription. Mike gets a portion of the premium pay and you can watch and support more water of life Christian content on UA-cam. ☝🏼
ABOUT FAITH AND WORKS:
JAMES 2, 14-26: "14.What [doth it] profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15.If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16.And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be [ye] warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what [doth it] profit? 17.Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18.Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19.Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20.But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21.Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22.Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23.And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. @t see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25.Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent [them] out another way? 26.For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."
James 2, 14-26 - @t
ABOUT WORKS AND PURGATORY: 1Cor 3, 13-15: "13.Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14.If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15.If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."
@t
@@Charity-vm4bt Why are you worried about his income? That is a spirit of envy, gossip and unholy judgment. Repent.
Former Roman Catholic here, I'd just like to say, in regards to the sacrament of confirmation, if you're raised in the church, it's mostly done when the person is around the age of 13 (at least in the U.S.) So even though it's a "conscious" choice, It's more like a "I have to do this and agree to this because this is what my parents told me I have to do" choice. When I was 18 I went to 3 separate masses by myself. When I was there I was very observant of what was actually going on, especially during eucharist/communion. Each week I continued to get a very off-putting feeling. After the 3rd I decided I'd only step foot inside a Roman Catholic Church if it was an event I was doing with my family. Basically just Easter, Christmas, and funerals. It made me realize all of the theological decisions I made were made for me, I wasn't consciously making them myself. I ended up becoming lukewarm/borderline agnostic. Until I had a dream that when I woke up from made me think "Where am I going when I die?" All I had was a Catholic Bible, and I didn't want to associate myself with that organization anymore so I bought an NKJV, started reading, and now I'm just a Bible believing Christian. I was baptized at a non-denominational church about 2 months ago.
"There are not 100 people who hate the Catholic Church,
But there are millions who hate what they mistakenly think what the Catholic Church is."-Archbishop Fulton Sheen
"He who steeps himself in history ceases to be a Protestant." ~ St. John Newman, a convert to the Catholic Church
“We began to see that as non-Catholics, in good faith we had submitted our lives to Jesus Christ on our terms, not his.
We had no other terms. Our Christian lives had been based on our interpretation of Scriptures
or that of other persons whom we had chosen to follow.” ~
Fr. Ray Ryland Former Episcopalian Priest now Catholic
***********
Jesus renamed his apostle, Simon Bar Jonah to Kepha,
Rock in Aramaic, the language of Jesus.
Later, it was translated to the more popular ancient Koine Greek, Petros, then to the English, Peter.
BTW: The Dead Sea Scrolls were originally written in Aramaic.
Kepha set the first tenets of the Church at the
Council of Jerusalem in 50 ad.
He also appointed the first bishops to the 7 churches,
listed in the Book of Revelation,
St Justin Martyr and St Ignatius of Antioch***.
There were also referred to as the early first century
Church Fathers.
St Paul and the apostles acknowledged Kepha
as the authority of the Church at this Council.
St. Ignatius of Antioch*** -
"Let no one do anything of concern to the Church
without the bishop.
Let that be considered a valid Eucharist,
which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he (the Pope) ordains [i.e., a presbyter].
Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there;
just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
(Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 - 110 A.D.)
LUKE 10:16
Jesus said, "He who hears you, Kepha, hears me,
and he who rejects you, rejects me,
and he who rejects me, rejects him who sent me."
Thou art Kepha and upon this Rock I will build My Church: Matthew 16:18-19
Peter is “Kepha” (Rock): John 1:42
(Jesus spoke Aramaic and called Simon “Kepha”)
GALATIANS 1:9 If any man preaches any other Gospel unto you than that you have received, let him be accursed.
2 THESSALONIANS 3:6 And we charge you, brethren,
in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you withdraw yourselves
from every brother walking disorderly and
not according to the Tradition which they have received of us.
2 John 1:10 If any man come to you and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into the house or welcome him.
*********************
JESUS TOLD KEPHA AND THE APOSTLES
Venial (minor) sins can be confessed directly to God.
Unconfessed venial sins will send you to Purgatory and
then to Heaven.
Mortal (major) sins need to be confessed to a priest,
the vessel of Jesus in the confessional.
Unconfessed mortal sins will send you to Hell.
Reference to a priestly confession.
Matthew 16:19:
I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven,
and whatever you bind (sins) on earth shall be bound in heaven,
and whatever you loose (sins) on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
Matthew 18:18: Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven,
and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
The Catholic Church was started by Jesus Matthew 16:18
all sacraments are in scripture John 6 51 55
John confession when Jesus breathes on disciples and
give them authority to forgive sins or retain sins.
Jesus wants one flock. Must know the old scripture
From Gen 3 15 to Luke to Isaiah 7 14 Rev 12
*****************
Apostolic succession: Acts 1:23-26; 2 Timothy 2:2, Titus 1:5
Clement of Rome (4th Pope, taught by St Peter)
wrote in 96 A.D. :
“Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ,
and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate.
For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this,
they appointed those presbyters already mentioned,
and afterwards gave instructions,
that when these should fall asleep,
other approved men should succeed them in their ministry.”
We are not given saving faith by good works,
but with the purpose that we do good works.
Works like compassion, forgiveness, and honesty.
"See how a person is justified by works and not by faith alone”. (James 2:24)
Not all who say “Lord, Lord” will enter Heaven: Matthew 7:21
God renders to us according to our works: Romans 2:6
Those who die in mortal sin won’t be saved: 1 Corinthians 6:9
Faith, Hope, Charity, and the greatest of these is Love:
1 Corinthians 13:13
Works and Faith alone don’t save,
but grace by Faith that works in love: Galatians 5:6
Work of Faith: 1 Thessalonians 1:3
Those rich in good works may lay hold of eternal life:
1 Timothy 6:17-19
Those who hear but don’t do the word are lost: James 1:21-27
Faith without works is dead, even devils believe: James 2:14-26
PURGATORY
SOULS CAN'T BEND THEIR KNEE IN HELL TO JESUS.
THE UNDERWORLD IS PURGATORY,
THE WAITING ROOM TO HEAVEN.
PHILIPPIANS 2:9-11
9 And for this God raised him high,
and gave him the name which is above all other names;
10 so that all beings in the heavens, on earth and in the underworld, should bend the knee at the name of Jesus
11 and that every tongue should acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Praying for the dead: 2 Maccabees 12:43-46
Chastisement of the worthy dead: Wisdom 3:1-7
Some awake to life, some to shame, some to everlasting contempt: Daniel 12:2
Many will be purified: Daniel 12:10
Refining by fire: Zechariah 13:9
Purified like silver: Malachi 3:2-3
We won’t get out until we pay the last farthing: Matthew 5:26
Forgiveness in the age to come: Matthew 12:32
We pay the last mite: Luke 12:58-59
Sins unto death, sins not unto death: 1 John 5:14-17
Works’ll be revealed by fire; some will suffer loss but be saved:
1 Corinthians 3:13-15
Paul prays for the dead Onesiphorus: 2 Timothy 1:16-18
We must be perfect before we go to Heaven:
Hebrews 12:22-23, Revelation 21:10, 27
I agree with Sylvester. Jesus started Catholic church. Facts over feelings
@@SylvesterPeter-sf3fy I don't have time to sit here and argue with people on the internet, nor do I feel like it so I'll just say this. My guy you are taking the Bible so far out of context and stretching the meaning of it, that it's not funny at all, it's just sad. Also you sited an apocryphal book (2 maccabees) which I don't want to offend you, but it's not Holy Spirit inspired. The Jews don't even have it in their Bible because it contradicts what's said in the Old Testament. I agree that Jesus started the Catholic.... However he DID NOT start the ROMAN Catholic Church. Do some history research because it's really going to help. The Roman Catholic Church states that the papacy is an unbroken line and started by the apostle Peter. Peter never went to Rome, there's little to no evidence of him ever being in Rome. And most of the popes have been terrible, awful people. We're talking crusades, torturing people and killing people for trying to translate the Bible into their own language, or because they disagree with the Roman Catholic Church, rape, incest, and many more atrocious acts. So please, do some research and throw out that catholic bible because it has false teachings that contradicts the rest of the Bible.
@@SylvesterPeter-sf3fy Exodus 20:4-5
"You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the LORD your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments."
Mathew 23:8-10
"But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ."
@@johnyang1420 i would be inclined to agree, Jesus started the universal church which i believe was at first called the way. However the Roman Catholic Church was a merging of biblical christianity and paganism. Hence, the idols and the worship of the "Queen Mother"
You have a thorough understanding of how Catholicism differs from Biblical Christianity. I was brought up Catholic but was saved at age 24. Stayed in the RC church another seven years but couldn't stand the non-gospel and distortions any longer and left. My heart 💔 bleeds for the family members still adhering to Catholicism, praying to saints, wearing medals, with confused theology and no assurance of salvation. It seems impossible to get through to them. I shall share this link with them if ever there's an opportunity to do so, because you hit the nail on the head in the kindest way without compromising the truth.
I was brought up Christian but was saved at age 34. Stayed in the Christian church another seven months but couldn't stand the non-gospel and distortions any longer and left. My heart 💔 bleeds for the family members still adhering to Christianity, honoring the day of the Sun, celebrating pagan festivals (Xmas, Ishtar), with confused theology, living lawlessly and no knowledge of sin. It seems impossible to get through to them. I shall share the Torah with them if ever there's an opportunity to do so, because it hits the nail on the head in the kindest way and IS the Truth.
If you left the Catholic church, you left the one church that Jesus started! Why would you do that?
The Catholic Church teaches the Gospel exactly. Yhere are no disortions I know of, but go on and try to name one
The RCC does have assurance of salvation..........it is in confession/charity/atonement........see the story of Zaccheus in Luke 19: 1-10; the only place in the Gospel where Jesus declares SALVATION.
Google “which church did Jesus start?” Catholic....are you in it? Get your questions answered by a Catholic apologist!
I was a Protestant later my dad became evangelistic protestant preacher. I’m a Catholic now. I found God it sure wasn’t in a protestant church. I tried every one of your denominations and countless churches thank God I was never baptized by them people. My life hasn’t been better since I converted.
I was born and raised Roman catholic for 34 years and never understood the gospel. Went to catholic school and did all the sacraments up to marriage. Felt like I was just climbing a ladder to God but never had a true relationship with Him. But thanks be to God that I finally herd the gospel and believed it from the heart. Left the catholic church and am walking with God ever since. I actually have a relationship with Jesus instead of just following a religion.
Awesome bro
@Shameless Papist No I wouldn't fall under that umbrella. Actually the grace God teaches us not to sin and to live righteously (Titus 2:11-12) Now I hunger to read His Word daily and constantly strive to grow in His grace. I've done a complete 180 where as before I lived like the world Monday - Saturday then went to church on Sundays. Now I live for God everyday constantly looking for our blessed hope, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Having a personal relationship with Christ means this . As the Bible states "Believe in the LORD JESUS, repent acknowledge your sins and you will be saved. It does not say believe, repent and follow the Roman Catholic church. And you will be saved. Churches do not save anyone. The universal church is not a denomination it is the assembly of born again believers. It is Christ that saves and Christ that rules. it's not a magisterium or a papal decree that has to be obeyed, but the Bible through which the Holy Spirit becomes our guide. This i what gives us the assurance of salvation.
@@ninomaltese1661 Amen to that!
Shameless Papist It is blasphemy to think that you need to confess yours sins to a so-called priest, many who are sexual predators/deviants, in order for them to forgive your sins. This, only after mindlessly reciting Hail Mary’s and Our Fathers.
When the temple veil was torn from the top to the bottom at Christ’s death, it was a sign that no longer did we need to go through an intercession priesthood.
Jesus said that He was the Way, the Truth, and the life, and no man came to the Father but through him.
That’s right. Jesus only. Not some pompous non-scripture-believing sinful man. This Pope is an evolutionist who has even opened the door for aliens to have populated the earth. Look it up.
The only Catholics who are saved are “bad Catholics” who don’t follow the hogwash they are being fed in their catechism, most which is outside the Word of God. They have that Lordship trust- relationship with Jesus you mock.
Better get it right. There are ways which seem right to a man, but they lead to death.
21:00 the church teaches (in the catechism and the council of Trent and the council of Orange) that man’s initial salvation is an act of faith through grace. The works we do for Jesus are acts of love, also prompted by grace, which further our justification to making us more like Christ.
Your salvation is still a gift. The faith we have is still a gift, but as we act more like Christ we grow deeper in our love for him, thus the church teaches that we are further justified by works. Justification is not a binary “saved or not” it’s a manner of growing in our love for Jesus over our whole life.
There are lots of sincere Catholics.!
But if you miss mass you go to hell and when you go to confession you're back going to heaven again.
Bassman_007... You said.. 'The works we do for Jesus are acts of love, also prompted by grace, which further our justification to making us more like Christ.'
That is incorrect. This is what you should have written:
The works we do for Jesus are acts of love, prompted by the indwelling Holy Spirit, which further our sanctification to make us more like Christ.
Thats sanctification
The Catechism says differently.
I very much enjoyed your discussion on Catholicism. I don't know many Catholics who are saved. I'm a former Catholic myself. I can remember the nuns talking about accumulating grace through the sacraments. My Mom was a Protestant who converted to marry my Dad. She's no longer Catholic. She always read the Bible & prayed. We had children's Bibles, which I read on my own. As a result, I had difficulty reconciling what the Bible said with what the RC taught. At 14, a friend of mine led me to Christ. I'm forever grateful to him.
YOU should really read Matt. 25: 31-46.
Capsulized HISTORY of CHRISTIANITY
To get a full understanding of the whats and hows and whys of the Christian Church today, you need to know a little about Church history. Not just because it’s important to know, but because so many of the major events that have significantly shaped Church doctrine and history throughout the years have been the direct result of other events that happened before them.
Before I begin, I think it is important to say, in no way, shape or form am I even trying to give a complete report. I’m writing a blog post, not a book. Therefore, I am forced to choose only the information I feel is most pertinent while trying to be as unbiased and educated as possible. Feel free to add more in the comments!
While the overarching story of Christianity began with the creation of the Universe, the story of Christianity as a religion essentially began with the birth of Jesus Christ around 4 BC.
Prior to Jesus’s birth, life and ministry, the only way God’s people (the Jews) could have any hope of knowing God and going to Heaven was to keep the Law of Moses. For Jewish people, the law was their life, and they followed their laws like their salvation depended on it (because it did). Non-Jewish people had no hope of Heaven, according to Jewish belief.
Jesus was born a Jew and was raised in Jewish culture. All of the first Christians were as well. For the first few years, all Christians were Jews, but not all Jews were Christians. Instead, many, many Jewish people HATED Christians, because they saw the Christians as blaspheming against God.
The Spread of Christianity
News of Jesus’s death, resurrection and ascension quickly spread through the area and then out to cities farther and farther away as the apostles went out to evangelize. Keeping the message consistent was likely pretty easy in Jerusalem, where there were several witnesses, but as the Good News spread farther and farther away, it became more and more difficult to keep the message consistent. This is why Paul wrote many letters to the churches in far off cities-to correct wrong beliefs that had crept up in his absence.
The first Christians didn’t all believe the exact same things. Some Christians practiced infant baptism while others waited, for example. Still, people seemed to get along well enough for the most part. They were all of the same religion, even if they didn’t exactly agree on all of the specifics.
The Rise of Heretics
It wasn’t long, however, until some people began making claims that weren’t simply “off a little” - they were downright heretical. For example, the Gnostics rejected all things physical and claimed that Jesus was divine but not human. Arius claimed that Jesus was not eternal God, but was the first being God created. Jovinian objected to the idea that Mary was a virgin.
In order to combat these heresies and others, the Church had to take an official stand and formally state their beliefs. These declarations were not new information; they were simply affirming and clarifying what the church had always held to be true so that believers wouldn’t unknowingly succumb to heretical teachings. The Catholic Church still does the same thing today.
One such clarification was the Nicene Creed, which was written at the Council of Nicea in 325 and which Catholics still recite at Mass today. It states the basic truths that all Christians believed then and that all Catholics (should) still believe today.
In addition to the heresies, new writings (such as the Gospel of Thomas) began to circulate that claimed to be inspired that really were not. As a result, church leaders met to decide and make an official statement about which books were in fact inspired. They did not MAKE them inspired-they always were-the church simply made an official declaration.
While opinions varied somewhat on which books should be included, an official list was written up in 367, then approved by the Pope and formally approved by the church in 382. This list contained the Bible pretty much exactly as we have it today, although modern Protestant Bibles do not contain the Apocrypha/Deuterocanonical books - 7 books of the Old Testament that are still in dispute today.
The church didn’t decide which books to include willy-nilly of course. With prayer and careful debate, they compared the proposed books against certain criteria, including:
• The books had to be written by an apostle or a close follower of an apostle.
• The books had to be consistent with the rest of Scripture.
• The books had to be consistent with what church Tradition affirmed to be true. (Remember: they didn’t have a Bible yet, so church Tradition was the ultimate measuring stick up until this point.)
• The books had to already have gained widespread use and acceptance.
On a side note, it is important to keep in mind:
• This was before the printing press, so books had to be transcribed by hand onto scrolls.
• As a result, these scrolls were very expensive, especially
Some Christians, especially those who call themselves “non-denominational,” criticize Catholicism for its rituals, especially those of the Mass. They may argue that such ritualized forms of worship were only for the Old Covenant. Since we’re in the New Covenant, we don’t need all that stuff anymore.
The objection is based merely on the assumption that God didn’t intend such rituals to be a part of worship for his people in the New Covenant. To challenge that assumption, we can begin with passages in the New Testament that provide evidence that the early Christians viewed ritual as essential to their worship. See, for example, Acts 2:42, 1 Corinthians 10:16 and 11:24-29, and Matthew 28:19.
But I think there’s something more fundamental to the objection than a search for New Testament prooftexts. It’s more of revulsion to ritual itself.
This is what I’d like to address here.
There are no non-ritual cultures. The fact that every culture in human history has had rituals indicates that ritual corresponds to something in human nature.
Even American culture, which historically has tried rid itself of formality and tradition, has rituals. And I bet your non-denominational friend doesn’t mind them.
For example, we don’t think having rituals at graduation ceremonies, or in military procedures, is a bad thing. And most still think that rituals at weddings are important. I doubt your non-denominational friend would be fine with having the bride and groom just say, “Okay, we’re married. Let’s get on with it.’”
I think it’s safe to say that your friend will not deny that these secular rituals are good.
Your task now is to draw out the reason why your friend intuitively believes this. You can take your cue from St. Thomas Aquinas, who teaches that it’s befitting to man that he should “employ sensible signs in order to signify anything” (Summa Theologiae II-II:85:1).
The reason for this is that man is a body-soul composite. The body is essential to our personhood and thus is essential to our communicative powers. It makes sense, therefore, for us to use ritual-formal words and gestures by our bodies-to communicate the value of the things we’re celebrating, and how much we appreciate those things.
If it’s fitting to our human nature to use sensible signs when we’re communicating our appreciation and respect for worldly things, then it’s even more fitting to use sensible signs when communicating our appreciation and respect for God, since he is far superior in dignity to any worldly thing, and since we have a natural obligation to order all things-including our bodies-to him.
It was this sort of reasoning that led Aquinas to conclude,
Hence it is a dictate of natural reason that man should use certain sensibles, by offering them to God in sign of the subject and honor due to him, like those who make certain offerings to their lord in recognition of his authority (ibid).
There’s more to the story, however. Notice that in the above examples we recognize that not just any rituals will do. The magnitude of certain events demands words and gestures outside those of everyday life.
For instance, just to have graduating seniors come and grab their diplomas off a table set up in a parking lot would not be fitting for a commencement event. Merely having soldiers gather together in a field and saying with a bullhorn, “Hey guys, pretty good job,” and then sending them on their merry way doesn’t do justice to the value of their sacrifice. And couples who get married by an Elvis impersonator in Las Vegas dressed up in their camouflage outfits do not befit the dignity of marriage. (Although even in this scenario there is some formality!)
So, as human beings not only do we need to use sensible things to communicate how much we appreciate something, we sense that we need to use special words and gestures that befit the dignity of the thing being celebrated. And if this is true of secular things, how much more true is it of divine things?
According to Aquinas, the most befitting exterior gesture for worshipping God is sacrifice. He argues that other things that pertain to worship, such as “genuflections, prostrations, and other manifestations of this kind of honor” may also be shown to men, although when directed to God they are performed with different intentions (Summa Contra Gentiles 3:120). “But,” Aquinas continues, “it is agreed by any man that sacrifice should be offered to no person unless he is thought to be God or unless one pretends to think so.”
His rationale for this is that the exterior sacrifice signifies the interior sacrifice by which the human mind offers itself to God as the “principle of its creation,” “the author of its actions,” and “the end of its happiness.” Since such attributes can only be ascribed to God, St. Thomas concludes that sacrifice and worship ought to be given to God alone.
As to what must be offered in sacrifice, and how it is to be offered: God must tell us.
Please watch "What is the Mark of the Beast" by Hope Through Prophecy
@@jesusmaryjoseph831 "employ sensible signs in order to signify anything"
When quoting Thomas Aquinas, it helps to explain the words. Almost nothing he writes uses words with their common, modern meaning. "Sensible" in this case does not mean wise or reasonable, but rather, "can be sensed with human senses"; rituals that one can see, touch, hear, smell.
I was raised in the Roman Catholic faith. Went to and graduated from a Roman Catholic school. Fell away from God for a while, but I'm back. I came full circle thanks to Catholicism. God seems to surround me with the same folks I am. Catholicism is not for everyone, I understand that. It just gave me back my salvation, saved my soul, and changed my life. I did the Catholic Church thing and sought a priest. Just to hear my sins were forgiven was amazing to hear and feel.
That being said, I hold my church accountable for its transgressions. What it did to its victims is monstrous, but it's also for the victim to find their peace and forgive their transgressors, even if that means the minister must have legal consequences done to them. The learned have tried teaching "you do right because it's the thing to do. Faith saves you, but you also have to continue doing 'right' because that is your calling". My church fathers are teaching this.
Also, though Holy Orders, the priest has the same authority as the Apostles who were given said authority from Jesus. It's always "In the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". The priest recognizes himself as a REPRESENTATIVE of Christ, having come from a long line of ordained ministers that date back to the original Apostles.
Eucharist is a very important thing because you have the responsibility of being a living tabernacle for Jesus, which I believe a lot of my brothers and sisters have lost sight of what that means. I did for a while. Jesus is forever alive. That's the beauty of Him being present in the Eucharist. He's the only living sacrifice. Hence why He is the way, the truth and the life. Just like his body was broken on the cross, so too is He broken in the bread we share during the Liturgy of the Eucharist. We do allow folks to come up for a blessing if they're not Catholic, some partake in it, some stay in their seats. The sacrifice is meant to be remembered as often as possible. You want "Keep the Sabbath Holy", that's how we do it. Sometimes, it means more when you go as often as possible. But even priests are saying "Come often, it still means something".
Faith definitely saves us, works done in vain are dead, prayers said in vain are blasphemous (regardless of religion), and worshipping on autopilot ain't what God wants for Christmas, let alone for the rest of the year.
Everyday is supposed to be a gift. A second chance to be good. No one is entitled to anything, but through believing in Jesus you earn a right to try again and do it right this time around.
And as a man on the inside, I understand it's true meaning now. All I can say is I'm home.
No disrespect my friend but I urge you to investigate the origins of its practices especially transubstantiation. It was not a Christian teaching for the first 500 yrs and was brought into the Roman church from pagan converts and philosophers who adopted Gnosticism and witchcraft. It appears to be “good” but has dark origins. It also insults the one perfect holy sacrifice that was completed in Jesus Christ. The apostles closest to him knew that consuming literal blood was forbidden (Acts). It’s a memorial of his death but no longer are we to perform any kind of sacrifice.
No Catholics will tell you this just as no Mormon will tell you the truth of their Church.
Jesus asked us to search the scripture. We are also the test all things (Thessalonians).
I pray you find the narrow way. Rome is a wide and popular way and steeped in Mystery Babylon. The esoteric and the exoteric are all in Catholicism. They founded many faces of differing secret societies.
Faith comes by hearing not by seeing. The Roman Church has its members also looking to the flesh and the physical and new revelations and does not direct us to Christs spiritual words. He said the flesh is of no avail and profits nothing. My words are Spirit and Life.
Our works are always a fruit of our faith. Our Faith is a gift given to us and not of us. He first loved us. Without Him we can do nothing. The Church compromises these teachings. Your works won’t save you ; they show you are saved.
I would love to hear a comparison between Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox and the other Orthodox sects that separated from Rome
Not a comparison per se, but I recommend Ten Minute Bible Hour's learning about other churches playlist. He has this series where he goes to different churches and has them explain their denomination to a protestant. You should take a look!
you'll find little to no differences
most differences are Pastoral or terminological, not Doctrinal
Hi Ann, it really isn't fair to lump all orthodox churches together, since they are not unified in any way. However, I would like to point out some similarities between the "Orthodox" Church, specifically the Eastern Orthodox and The Roman Catholic Church.
Similarities:
1) Eastern Orthodox has maintained Apostolic succession. This means that every Patriarch and Priest has had hands laid upon them by someone who can trace that Sacrament back to a specific Apostle. This allows Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox to have valid Sacraments.
2) Both agree on every truth revealed to the Catholic Church by Jesus and then sufficiently clarified by the Church until, essentially 1000 AD. This includes honoring Mary as the Mother of God, intercession of the saints, the Trinity, the books of Scripture, etc...
Differences:
1) The Orthodox Mass is much more historically accurate than the current Roman Catholic Mass (Post Vatican II).
2) The Orthodox Church does not recognize the primacy of the Bishop of Rome (aka the Pope). Therefore, the Orthodox Church cannot call a council or define anything to be infallible. I am not sure what background you are from Ann, but this was the process used by the early Church to discover the truth of the Trinity in Scripture and then infallibly declare this as a Dogma of the faith at the Council of Nicea. But, because of their schism, the orthodox church is no longer protected from error by the Holy Spirit. This is the gift of infallibility. Infallibility means that a teaching from the Bible is carefully studied over hundreds of years to see how scripture was interpreted by the earliest Christians and study to see if this interpretation was refuted, contradicted, or elaborated on throughout the entire history of the Church. If a teaching is elaborated on and refined throughout history, it can be elevated to a Doctrine. A teaching that becomes a Doctrine can is then studied further, often over hundreds of more years and numerous more generations, and if it can be studied in entirety without any room for doubt, this Doctrine can be elevated to a Dogma.
daddydaycareky si pretty much both are heretics
Roman Catholic Christianity and Eastern Orthodox Christianity differ in some very significant ways. For example what they believe about Mary, the Pope, life after life, Communion, the Church Councils, etc.
In many ways, I have heard it said that Protestant Christianity and Roman Catholic Christianity have more in common than Eastern Orthodox Christianity. I am not completely sure how true that is but I can see how it could be said.
Mike- so thankful for your thoughtfulness and heart when you present your thoughts, you are being used in such amazing ways.
I do admire the reverence of the way the mass is done in Catholic churches. In my Lutheran church we have a coffee shop in the lobby. People bring coffee into the service as if they were going to a movie theater. We are coming in the presence of God. We do not show enough reverence.
The presence of God is everywhere. Think about it...buildings called "churches" aren't a special place where He resides. We need to show reverence at all times and wherever we go. Saving it for a "church" building is worshiping a building. The followers of Christ met in each other's homes-Christ prophesied the Temple would be destroyed and they were getting ready for that. The Temple system was done away with, but man decided to start it again without God's permission, and ever since, man has used "church" buildings to create his own fake religions, and the preachers, pastors and priests think they are their own gods. That's why they dress in robes and stand above you. Christ was accessible to everyone, owned nothing, and anyone could approach him. These false "shepherds" act like celebrities. Just read the book of Acts-and ask the Lord to show you.
I so agree with this statement! In our church people are eating snacks and drinking coffee. :(
imagine the first century church where people met in homes and brought a lunch. reverence doesnt always equate to "silence" or abstaining from food etc. i bet they had their water jugs beside them (or wine or grape juice) and took a sip whenever they got thirsty while listening to one of the apostles teach. now when someone prays, or they sing a hymn, or communion is happening or an invitation is given, its inappropriate to eat and drink or talk.
@@caman171 that's all pure speculation though. And we do know the Apostles prayed and fasted...and not even just from food. Paul discusses mutually agreed on fasting from marital relations for a time even.
@@mrjustadude1 no its not "speculation". the early church were full of converts who didnt even know about judaism much less christianity. they were talking and asking questions, and i have no doubt the apostles or the pastors encouraged their questions. every meeting was somewhat of a "catechism" class if you will. there were no cars, most didnt even have a horse or donkey, so they traveled a long way, and the "services" probably lasted several hours. so in a house with no running water or rest room, i am sure there were people coming and going. dont get me wrong, respect and 'silence" are appropriate at times, but there was much more than that
"God is not the author of confusion but of peace" .... if I follow Jesus ... I can't follow Catholicism
They worship what they don't understand. You worship what you do understand. But the hour is coming and is now here for us all to worship in SPIRIT and truth.
Correction, Catholics believe in Faith and Works. Works is meaningless without Faith and Faith without works is dead. Please do not confuse our theology. James 2:26, Galatians 6: 7-9, Romans 2: 6-7.
Protestants believe faith alone saves us, but we are commanded to do good works which do NOT contribute to salvation, but are us "working out our salvation". Sola Fide is also taught by 1 Clement.
@@wilsonw.t.6878 Grace ALONE saves us brother. Faith + works
@@jmanuel722 Yes, by *GRACE* through faith *AND* works/ or good works/ or works of love. It is not "either", not "or", and also, it is not "plus/+" ---- but *and* , because they are inseparable. 🙂
Peace and *GOD bless* !
@@wilsonw.t.6878 sorry you contradict your self.
Working out your salvation implies it's a process which goes against sola fide being a moment in time when you are saved choose one otherwise you contradict yourself.
Plus sola fide itselfnisnt biblical it isn't mention in the bible except for you are not saved by faith alone.
I would recommend that you revisit clements take on sola fide. Because he does not support sola fide.
Mathew 7:21-23
21 Not everyone who says to me ‘Lord, Lord’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who DOES the will of my father in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?”
23 Then I will declare to them
Solemnly, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you evildoers.’
Isn't it contradicting sola scriptura?
Good work also counts!
And Jesus proclaimed it.
It's so plain and simple.
@@TheMarymicheal of course it is. Someone must "do" something (word DOES), so faith is not enough for kingdom of heaven based on Mt 7,21. Lame arguments from Winger. He should debate someone like Sungenis, Jimmy Akin, Trent Horn, Tim Staples, etc. This way, he is just spreading his misconceptions about truth in Bible and Catholic faith (and his biases). God bless.
@@wtlchannel-waytruthandthel4254 Mathew 25:31-41
Is also clearly says that judgment of goats and sheep depends on the works they did to enter into heaven.
@FaithHopeGrace there you go another one spitting filth and judgment out of mouth.
With the angelic title "faith hope and grace"
You should consider to change it.
@FaithHopeGrace so funny and immature..
The main struggle for me as a Roman Catholic is that it feels like I am turning away from God if I question church traditions. For example, why do we have a lot of idols and why is there a patriarchial heirarchy, it reminds me a lot of the Roman empire . Then, why I need to confess to a priest as opposed to praying directly to God. I had a not so happy experience, seeing the priest i was confessing to was reading a newspaper while I was pouring my heart out through him. :( There are a lot of good catholics, but i fear if we are being led towards a wrong path. God bless us all.
Would YOU consider YOUR avatar or pictures of those YOU love or even the money in YOUR wallet to be idols ??? Can an statue of Jesus be an idol ???
Confession to a priest is God's Will........see John 20: 19-23. God even sent His Prophet to King David to get him to confess his sins.......see 2 Samuel 12. And yes, we ought to feel uncomfortable when we offend God..........see Luke 18: 9-14. David's Psalm 51 and his grief at offending a loving Father made him a ' man after God's heart ' as is written in 1 Samuel 13: 22. I have always had caring priests and the idea that a priest would read a newspaper while in the confessional is tragic. Maybe, he was looking for a suitable prayer/or saint to help YOU ( at least I hope so.) Blessings !!!
You need to be born again and have a personal relationship with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Don’t despair friend.
@@dman7668 quote---We don't practice idolatry pal. -unquote
What do you call praying to Mary? Bowing to her statues, paintings???
@@dman7668 quote----Veneration isn't the same as idolatry. But I understand in your world view you think Catholics are worshipping statues and think they are all individual pagan God's.--unquote
definition of "Venerate"--to worship!~!!!!
-OBVIOUSLY whay GOD Commanded means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to Catholics. That is why Ex 20:4-6 ARE NOT in your list of Ten Commandments!!!
3 “You shall have no other gods before me.
4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.
----IMAGE of any form!!! WE are made in the image of God!!!
Statues are made to represent God, Jesus, Mary, etc. Images are same as an IDOL!! When you bow to it, pray to it, etc, IT IS AN IDOL!!!! AN IMAGE of someone or something!!!
We do not have *ANY* idols in the Catholic Church
I'm so glad you finished with Mary. Because the times my friends initiated a comparison of our beliefs, they started with "You don't pray to Mary".
We don't have to pray to 'Mary'. And I imagine that Miriam would be utterly grieved that people have lost their way so much as to pray to her! Luke 1:46-48
We definitely are not supposed to be praying to Mary or anyone else other than God. We reach God through Jesus. So your prayers, as I have known it should be directed to Jesus, which is the same as saying God. Jesus is Lord, so saying "God, please hear my prayers" is synonymous with saying, "Jesus, please hear my prayers". We do not need Mary or anyone else other than Jesus for intercession on our behalf to God. I have never prayed to anyone but the One True God. God Bless🥰
check out steve ray and jesse romero. Great talks :)
Mary was born sinless cleansed by her saviour
She wouldn't have to be cleansed if she was born sinless. Only one was born sinless, Jesus, and he did not need to be cleansed...
17:46 What are the things the Catholic and Christian church agree on?
30:00 grace/works
seven sacraments:
40:33 Baptism (infant) Vatican 2
42:55 Penance Reconciliation (confession to Preist)
49:50 Eucharist discussion
57:00 Confirmation
57:07 Marriage
57:36 Holy Orders: Offices of Chruch
57:55 anointing of the sick last rites
1:00:10 Purgatory
1:09:58 Bible
Purgatory is not biblical. You are saying that Christ’s blood was not sufficient to cover all sin and therefore we need people to pray us into heaven or hope our good outweighs our bad. Christ died for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD. He made this promise at the foundation of the earth.
@@gustavmahler1466 no, the whole world. All people, forever. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have forgiveness now.
@@gustavmahler1466 that doesn’t make any sense. Scripture talks about the second coming and what happens. We are not living in the millennial reign.
@@gustavmahler1466 “For every beast of the forest is mine, And the cattle upon a thousand hills. I know all the fowls of the mountains: And the wild beasts of the field are mine.”
Psalm 50:10-11 KJV
How is this about the millennial reign?
@@gustavmahler1466 I came across that teaching also, that Christ returned 70AD. Just wondering, can you explain or share some scriptures as to what does that mean for all of us living after that?
I love this guy. I am a knuckle head street minister. Mike is awesome. I learn so much.
So much heresy.
@FaithHopeGrace 😂😂😂 You ain't lyin though!
He is a hack and a false profit who will have to answer to Christ on Judgement day.
@@thomasm8317 We need examples; not platitudes.
Brother John Elving It takes a lot of courage to evangelize on the street! 👍🏼
I fully understand why you cannot be Catholic. However, I also know that for 2000 years the Catholic Church did all they could to acquaint people with the Lord. When a catholic was born in the middle ages and could not read the Bible even if he had one, finally died and came to the judgement, he would be able to tell the Lord "I know you, I saw the story of your life on the wall of my church".
The true, original church was started by Peter in Jerusalem ten days after Jesus ascended into heaven. We know exactly what they taught and believed by reading the book of Acts.
You would do well to read the New Testament. It won't matter on Judgment Day what the Book of Mormon said. It will only matter what God has already told us.
Yep !!! We love the Lord with ALL our mind; so we love Him in the arts.....in music/poetry/the Rosary, and through the prayers pf Mary and the saints.......our great ' cloud of witnesses ' as seem in Hebrews 12: 1. Blessings !!!
@@Elizabeth-rk3do "We know exactly what they taught and believed by reading the book of Acts. "
Jesus : THIS IS MY BODY
The Church of Winger: No it is not, Jesus was speaking symbolic only
Christianity for 2000 years has taught exactly what Jesus said. 500 years ago some men formed protestantism and denied his words. Mike follows that latter and not "the New Testament."
*St Ignatius of Antioch was taught by St John, the very same St John who was taught by Jesus and of whom wrote the Bread of Life discourse.*
_“They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they confess not the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Saviour Jesus Christ, which suffered for our sins, and which the Father, of His goodness, raised up again.”_ Ignatius of Antioch, Epistle to Smyrnaeans, 7,1 (c. A.D. 110).
*St Justin Martyr writes a few years later:*
_“For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have _*_we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, [the words of the priest at Mass] and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the flesh and blood of that Jesus who was made flesh.”_* Justin Martyr, First Apology, 66 (c. A.D. 110-165).
*St Ireneaus too:*
_“He acknowledged the cup (which is a part of the creation) as his own blood, from which he bedews our blood; and the bread (also a part of creation) _*_he affirmed to be his own body,_*_ from which he gives increase to our bodies.”_ Irenaeus, Against Heresies, V:2,2 (c. A.D. 200).
Why should anyone follow the Church of Winger on his fallible interpretation of the Lord's Supper, a means for receiving Grace?
So no, you do NOT know exactly what they taught.
@@Michael-nb4ng very true Michael ! Gospel of JOHN, chapter 14 : a true follower of JESUS-CHRIST knows him. Moreover, because he knows JESUS-CHRIST he Knows the Father. Thank you for your smarts comments !
And a Happy Christmas to YOU and YOURS !!! @@adelbertleblanc1846
I think you and Matt Fradd (a fellow UA-camr who is catholic) could have a deeply interesting and helpful dialogue together hashing out these differences.
Trent Horn has offered to debate him several times and he won’t do it unfortunately.
@@augustv123 I have challenged Mike Winger to enter the discussion in this forum and many other of his youtube video comments section. He will not do it. That should prove to his protestant disciples that he is nothing more than a charlatan working hard for Satan to keep souls from going to Heaven through the Catholic Church.
@@purgatorean That is telling I must admit, he can't deal with actual Catholics.
@FaithHopeGrace Romans are in a pretty good light in the Bible, maybe you didn't notice but the biblical narrative sets them up as the successors to the Jews.
Pilate famously said "What I have written remains written" and what did he write? Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews, rejected by the Jews, proclaimed by the Romans. And all the key Roman figures eventually converted, like the men who did lots for the clothes of Jesus, and St. Longinus who trusted the spear into Jesus' side, or St. Cornelius the Centurion who was the first gentile convert.
I would LOVE to see this. Matt is always so gracious and already has charitable friendships with some Protestants on his channel.
I would love a conversation between Pastor Mike and Trent Horn. This is an exceptionally good rebuttal of the Catholic faith, and I'd love to hear a back and forth with a Catholic apologist.
I have no interest in hearing heresy defended
What about Jesse Romero or Steve Ray. Smart men.
Check out Trent’s UA-cam channel, The Counsel of Trent. He has responded to a number of Mike’s videos on Catholicism.
Maybe Spitzer.
How about NO man and only G od himself? That's how allllll these different sects gets started. Just stick to his word ( even better if you are born again and read it with his aid ).
For all of the videos he has on Catholicism, Winger hasn't debated one Catholic. He said he talked to Catholic apologists, but he hasn't set up a public debate for people to watch.
I wish he debates someone like Trent Horn and Michael Lofton instead of saying he debate some random Catholic with no name.
Does he have to debate someone from every false religion or just yours?
@@St.MosestheBlack
If you are going to go into the apologetic world and make numerous videos against a certain group, you need to debate at least one person to show how accurate you are about that particular group.
Mike put in a lot of dedicated time about Catholics, and he hasn't debated one Catholic yet. He made a lot of videos on atheism, and he was able to debate at least one time against Matt Dillahunty. He has been offered to a debate by Trent Horn, and Winger ignored the invitation. You can read the screenshot from Trent Horn’s Twitter that shows a UA-cam comment from Mike saying he’s not answering Trent.
Debate is also a great way to get a better understanding of someone's views and beliefs. Mike made numerous erroneous claims, and he is not willing to have at least one debate with the amount of content he made about a certain group.
@@vtaylor21 so yes. Thanks.
@@St.MosestheBlack
My comment is not saying yes to your question. You asked should Mike debate someone from every false religion or just Catholics.
I said if he constantly going to talk about a particular group, he needs to debate someone from that group. That is not saying he should debate every false religion. He believes the Muslim religion is false. He barely makes videos about Muslims, so I don't expect him to debate a Muslim.
I don't know how that is a yes to your question when I made a distinction to showed he should debate certain religions and not every religion (including Catholicism if he is not making numerous content).
He's already explained why he won't debate people. And personally, I prefer his videos this way rather than just arguing with people for over an hour on a video like most debates turn into
Thank God, I found the courage to stand up to my family and leave the Catholic Church. Now I know the truth of salvation in Jesus Christ❤ He changed me and my life🙌
There is only one place in the Gospel where Jesus declared ' salvation.' See Luke 19: 9.
I’m happy for anyone who can get closer to God. Please realize that your path may not be the only path.
@@johnsteila6049Jesus is the only path.
Amen!! I left Catholic Church after 53 years and have been born again since 2020!! Praise God !! The Holy Spirit led me away from the oppression I had been feeling as a Catholic! Saved by God's grace and faith/trust in the blood of Christ!!!
@@BWB7777 I had the opposite experience. I’m glad that you found a closer relationship with Christ, but don’t be so absolute in your judgment.
Trent Horn, a Roman Catholic kindly requested to have a debate with you and to challenge you on your claims. Why haven't you got back to him if you're so confident about your protestant position? This is a sincere question, not trying to be a rude. I'm a protestant who's doubting protestantism and I'm wondering why most protestant apologists turn down debates against catholic apologists..
He asked me a number of times over the past year and I’ve answered. He’s got me on messenger. It seems like he’s just posting publicly to stir people like you to come onto my channel and post comments.
@@TheCounselofTrent Go Trent!
FaithHopeGrace
Wow. Really? Nobody worshipped Trent. As a former Protestant, Protestants have GOT to get an accurate definition of worship to be preached.
@@MikeWinger I like how you said "I've answered" and not "I refused", LOL.
Pathetic, do you have no honor?????? Ave Christus Rex
Mike Winger debate him if your so confident
Jesus and Paul never beat around the bush when false doctrines were the issue. For instance, they never tried to excuse or tone down their abhorrence of false doctrines and the twisting of Scripture with regard to salvation and wished to rather not have had to say what they said. What did they say? Jesus said, "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." (John 8:44), and Paul said, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8). We should never tone down the offense of the Gospel.
I'm a Roman Catholic and I must say I loved this video, it's always refreshing to have a person speak with such genuineness. I'd love to see a discussion between Mike and Trent Horn on this, it'd be a humdinger of a chat! God bless :)
are you joking?? Mike Winger is a totally bigoted guy, manipulative as they come... he invariably presents a charicature of the catholic teaching...
@@silveriorebelo8045
He's literally quoting the Bible and Catholics authoritative sources
So you literally heard the Bible contradict Catholicism's core doctrines and still choose to be a Catholic? No disrespect just asking a question. God bless.
@@JasonLewis544 Good question, so I guess the best way to explain it is that I enjoyed Mikes video but I didn't completely agree with all he said, hence me still being a Roman Catholic. If someday I get enough evidence that tells me Catholicism is wrong I'll move away, but until that day comes I'd naturally stay where I am. For example, when he quotes the catechism of the catholic church, I agree that certain wording is uncomfortable, but I can disagree with certain wording as it does not claim to be infallible, so the CCC 2677 with the word "wholly", as Mike referenced, is something I don't necessarily have to agree with, it does have high authority but it's not infallibly stated. In essence, I believe the Catholic doctrines being explained, but "how" they're explained I can have certain issues with and still be Catholic. Here's some quick disagreements I had, 1)His review of John 6 on the Eucharist was something I disagreed with, in my opinion, quoting Jn6:63 focusing on the word "spirit" doesn't in any way contradict Christ being very literal when saying this bread "is my Body", this wine "is my blood". Christ is emphasising that a person is not to trust on their own human flesh and reasoning to grasp such mysteries, hence "the flesh is of no avail". That's what I think. 2)Peter and the Apostles had authority to bind and loose in Mt16 onwards, but only Peter was given the keys, Mike said they were all given the keys but I hope he just let that slip out by mistake, only Peter was given the keys, and I think that has him in the highest position of authority after Christ. That whole text links back to Isaiah 22:22 when referring to the keys. 3)In regards to purgatory, verses like 1 Cor 3:15 "though he himself will be saved, but only as if through fire", I think hint at a purifying process before entering the Kingdome of heaven, not an instant transformation. I don't see purgatory as something we need to further pay for our sins, Christ is the perfect once for all sacrifice that prevents us suffering eternal fire as a "consequence" of sin, but sin still exists, and Purgatory is the process of having the effect of sins in our souls purged out of us and making us into perfection, it's not further punishment, it's purification, or so that's my view. Lastly, the OT book 2Mac 12:46 say's to "pray for the dead to loose them from their sins", I know here Mike calls them the 'Apocrapha' but the Jews didn't have a canon until well into the first or even second century, and which Jews is he talking about because they didn't all agree. The Apostles themselves quoted from the Greek OT known as the Septuagint which has the 'Apocrapha', and even at that, when I read the apparent apocraphal book of Wisdom 2:12-20 I see a clear foreshadowing of Mt27:41-44(the crucifixion), So that's huge in my opinion to accepting those 7 books that aren't in the Protestant Bible. So that's where I stand for now, there's way way more I could point out, but I don't want to bore you, basically and with all due respect, I think there are holes in things Mike has said, it's not that clear cut. Hence, I'd love Mike to debate Trent Horn to really hash this out!. If you went through the effort to read all that then thank you and I hope you have a lovely day :)
@@silveriorebelo8045 I only said I enjoyed it, I never said I agreed with everything he mentioned. I think Mike was very enjoyable to listen too, I'd love to see a good Catholic apologist like Trent Horn debate this with him.
Why don't you invite catholic theologian rather than someone who agrees with you... I'm catholic and in all honesty a lot from what you're saying is simply not right and misleading
Give one misleading & we can discuss.. tnx
Since I have to pause for now, I must say I appreciate the good intentions.
I will briefly touch on the grace part.
In Catholicism you are saved by grace through faith. Grace is free and given by God, you can't earn it, but this is justification. Sanctification also has a part in salvation. You do good works in Christ through the help of the Holy Spirit.
Imagine this; let's say I buy a bike for my brother. He didn't earn it. It was a free gift, but it won't help him learn to ride it just by me giving it to him.
He has to learn to drive the bike.
In the parable of the wealthy man who gave money to his three servants, he gave them money to make more of it, not to bury it.
We need grace in order to be saved, but in order to us enjoy heaven fully we need to be saints.
FURTHER EDIT:
I'm not going to go for the whole points, but in 1:16:00...
Why would the Church believe in the bodily assumption of Mary early on?
Now we need to define what do we mean by early on. Of course they didn't believe it few years or decades after the ascension of Jesus, because Mary was alive for some time and she died later.
I heard interpretations that in Revelation 12 there is a symbolic meaning of Mary's assumption.
Lord Jesus Christ gave the Church the power of binding and loosing. Take it up with Him, I'm just a messenger.
1:26:00 James only proposed a discipline which a bishop can do. The dogma came from the mouths of Peter.
1:32:40 what about Clement?
1:47:00 saints are alive with the Lord. That's what they do on Revelation 5. They worship and offer prayers.
1:51:00 yeah, I heard before: "Go to the Bible" or "Go to the Scriptures", but where were the Scriptures for the first few decades of the Church?
They only had the Old Testament and most of the times the one that is aligned with Catholic Old Testament, not Protestant. If someone had to learn the doctrine, did they go to the "Scriptures" that still didn't exist and people didn't know which books belong to the canon untill the 4th century? I think they went to the apostles and those who had their authority.
Why don't you accept Shepard Hermas or 1st Clemet as Scripture?
Why do you accept Jude, 2nd or 3rd John? There are still people that reject Paul as Scripture.
The Church discovered what is Scripture and that's how we know them. The Holy Spirit is not what my "fuzzy feelings" tell me about the Bible.
If you were to ask Paul what is the New Testament he wouldn't think of the second part of the Bible. He would say it's the Eucharist.
There is so much things to say, but I question whether it's effective.
I agree with you on most issues, but as for the bodily assumption I find that a stronger argument is from genesis 3
21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the Lord God said, “The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever.”
If Mary was free from the original sin (immaculate conception) she did not necessarily have the burden of death.
@@belakovacs7013 great.
I guess she wanted to be like her divine son and died and at the moment assumed to heaven.
*Enoch and Elijah assumed*
Protestants: *have no problem*
*Mary, the mother of God, assumed to heaven*
Protestants: "idolatry, you pagan Catholic Mary worshipers"
@@eugengolubic2186 I'd say the second person of the trinitarian God wanted the elevate his mother without any corruption to the Heaven.
@FaithHopeGrace is Jesus God?
Did Mary give birth to Jesus?
Then why are you making problems where are non?
Jesus has eternal divine nature and the human one He added at His incarnation. Mothers don't give birth to natures, but persons; that's why it's appropriate to call the Blessed Mary the mother of God.
We don't worship her. Worship (latria) is done to God alone.
Look at the 2nd Kings 2; who is the queen in Israel: the king's wife or mother?
@FaithHopeGrace Daughter of the Father = Daughter of God
Mother of Jesus = Mother of God
Fiancée of the Holy Spirit = Fiancée of God.
I'm from Philippines, when I started reading the Bible I have "ahha" moments about being saved while I am still a sinner and Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father, not Mary, Pope or reciting 10x the rosary after confession... And life for a catholic is full of mystery no need to discover it, let it be.. Thank you for this vedio. All the merit for our salvation is through Christ alone.
clarita san you should also study what the Catholic Church really teaches before coming to your own conclusions.
@@LetGodbeGlorified right. Many Catholics don't know their faith unfortunately but just do what they do because of the culture. ( It was the same with me a few months ago, even though I have a lot to discover )
@@lonelyberg1316 You are absolutely right.
I suggest you Dr Brant Pitre's video, he will blow your mind. An excellent cathechist
@@lonelyberg1316 true. I bought that book twice for my friends. The Catholic faith( and therefore Orthodox faith) is based on the understanding of salvation in full context of the Old Testament. We won't get a full understanding of the New Testament without understanding it properly in the wider context of Old Testament. Typology is an important key to unlock the meaning of many things in the New Testament.
Here in Brazil catholicism is huge. It will help me a lot. I dont write in English but I understand 100%. I am very pround of you Mike you are sooo great. Catholic people dont read their bible and they have no clue their church teaches those things.
do you really believe what Mike is saying here are what the Catholic Church teaches? and do you think he is the one teaching the truth? try studying Catholicism from Catholic sources. And yes in any religion/denominations/church there are people who dont really know what their religion/denomination/church actually teaches.
@@ergonomicsthesis1396 how about just cut straight to the source G od Himself, and study the b ible he left.
@@ergonomicsthesis1396 Yes, he has no reason to lie, and he studies and is well informed
@@ergonomicsthesis1396 Please watch "The Mark of the Beast" by Hope Through Prophecy
Protestants read the ONE Bible, but explode into thousands of - confused - denominations. And Protestants have missed the Gospel message. Paul, on his missionary journeys, boldly proclaimed - verbally - the Gospel message which Jesus revealed to him - Galatians 1:12 - and which reflected the Teachings and Doings of Jesus as recorded in the 4 - Gospels - of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Later on, after Paul had received reports from faithful and trustworthy members, he sent out letters to the churches he had established to commend them or to correct them and even provide more insight and clarification. The Bible titles these letters as - Epistles - to the various churches of Corinth, Philippi, etc. Thus, these Epistles were Paul's means of keeping in touch with as well as providing a Review/Report of the status of the churches he wrote to. For example, Paul urged the Corinthian church to - expel the wicked man living in sin with his step-mother - 1 Cor. 5. Sadly, Protestants have based their - Doctrines - and belief systems on these commentaries and Epistles - instead of - the 4 Gospels which will be the basis of all judgement by Jesus, God and Judge - John 5:22. By way of example, Protestants hold Romans 10:9 to be more important than Matthew 7:21.
On the other hand, the Gospels speak of Tough Love - If you love Me, keep My commandments - and - If you wish to be My disciple, take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - and - More - is expected of Christians to whom much has been entrusted - Luke 12:48. Moreover, Jesus' Parables are often prefaced with - the kingdom of Heaven - or - the Reign of God - and require us to multiply our talents, become more fruitful " soil " as well as become wise virgins, etc. So by ignoring the Gospel messages and clinging to - parts - of the Epistles and commentaries, Protestants are arriving at a watered down - Easy Christianity and cheap Grace - belief system.
Jesus also on the very day of His Resurrection from the dead, breathed His Spirit and - empowered - all the Apostles to forgive - or retain - Sins - John 20:22-23. This breathing was the same as the Breath that gave the life-force to the earth-created Adam - Genesis 2:7. Why did Jesus empower humans to forgive sins ? It is because Christ died to re-open the gates of Heaven which had been closed by Adam's sin - Original Sin - While Baptism - a One-time Grace event - will cleanse us of all PRIOR sins and unrighteousness, we are responsible and accountable for all sins committed AFTER. Below are 3 Examples
- Firstly, Matthew 18:32-35 tells that Heavenly Father will "in anger" hand us over to the Torturers, all those who do not forgive UNTIL Divine Justice is satisfied.
- Secondly, Jesus, in Matthew 5:25-26 refers to Himself indirectly as the Judge who will imprison - Catholics give the name Purgatory to that Prison - those who do not reconcile and where release is only made UNTIL the last penny justice is served. Note - By way of elimination, this prison does not refer to Heaven or Hell where there is no release. It does not refer to Earth either, where human justice is flawed and the rich and powerul have gotten away with serious crimes, even murder.
- Thirdly, in Acts chapter5, the Holy Spirit "executed" Ananias & Sapphira for lying. So all 3 Persons of the Trinity act "in anger" against those who trespass God's Commandment - not suggestion - of Love of Neighbour. And if God has acted so harshly in cases of unforgiveness, non-reconciliation and lying, what will He do to those who commit murder, adultery or dishonour parents, etc ? Yet we all sin continually which could disqualify us from inheriting Heaven - Galatians 5:19-21.
- ( continued )
Mike I want to thank you. You were an important step in God leading me to his One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. When investigating my faith as an independent Pentecostal your videos were probably where I spent the largest percentage of my time as I tried to affirm the faith I held. But in the end no stubbornness of mine could keep Christ from leading me to his Church. Gratias Deo
problem is friend, Bible proves the exact opposite. catholicism is not Christianity.
*Happy Sabbath!!!* - 👈🏽today is the true Christian Lord's day - catholicism has tampered with It, as Scripture prophesied.
@@tony1685 I’d say the bible does a lot to show many of the beliefs of the Catholic Church. Though feel free to attempt to prove me otherwise. As for the sabbath we still keep to the commandments. However the day of the week we honor God with by giving it to him is merely ceremonial or accidental. There’s nothing stopping it from being any other day of the week. We have just chosen Sunday as that is the day our lord saw fitting to rise from the dead! We wish to celebrate his resurrection and so we as a church have selected Sunday as the day to honor the lord.
Also I’m a catechumen to be confirmed at the Easter vigil!
@@caidenhodges9103 a 'deception' would, by definition be a close replica, but not accurate - such is catholicism. (35 yr former here)
you wrote: _'There's nothing stopping it from being any other day of the week.'_ - see Jesus' clear and unmistaken Words on this in Luke 16:17.
you wrote: _'We have just chosen Sunday....'_ - so if you were courting your wife again, would you show up a day late?
catholicism does this weekly - see Luke 4:16, John 15:10 - we either keep all Ten or we aren't showing love for Christ - John 14:15
because of His death, burial and resurrection - Christians are to partake in full submersion (not sprinkling, not infant) baptism:
Col 2:12, Rom 6:3-4, 1 Peter 3:21
note too - all in the Bible - OT and NT - always kept Holy the 7th day Sabbath. and the Bible covers all of the history of this world - from Creation to ReCreation and even into Heaven to come.
and even in Heaven - the 7th day Sabbath will still be being kept - Isaiah 66:22-23
headed to church shortly, but i enjoy spreading this Truth!
btw - the Sabbath Command was prophesied to be tampered with. the 'church' which did it, they even admit and teach they did it!
and sadly, the masses are still deceived.
*Happy Sabbath!!!*
@@caidenhodges9103 that is very sad, friend. will keep you in prayer. you can read about 'ishtar' in Ezekiel 813-18 (sunrise service).
i was there friend, but now Christian.
read also of another 'church' which thought it could choose contrary His day - Ezekiel 22:26
He has already sanctified, blessed and made Holy , His day - Exodus 20:8-11
to choose another is to choose anti Him.
headed to church now, but i always enjoy discussing His Truths.
all questions welcomed and encouraged!
*Happy Sabbath!!!*
the Lord's day is here!
😊
It's apparent that Paul was having the same problem with Rome being confused about grace by the fact he had to write all this in this letter. It is an ongoing problem with Rome that spread. I used to be traditional Roman catholic and by the time I turned 18 I almost lost complete faith in the church, but instead of becoming a buddhist or something I started from scratch. Now I know I'm allowed to be a Christian without maintaining all that nonsense, that and my problem with mary worship and idols
Thanks for your comment. It helped me understand better something I've been trying for figure out for a while: how the culture of Rome (and Europe in general) influenced the Catholic Church. Your note that there was confusion from the start in Rome is insightful and increases my curiosity. I appreciate you
You completely Misunderstand the letter to the Romans. These are written primarily for Jewish And Gentile communities Living in a pagan culture. When Paul refers to the works of the law He is referring to the dietary laws and the laws concerning animal sacrifice a in the Old Testament. The good boys that do I do this are in love with God and love our neighbor..this fulfills The law through Christ.. The Catholic Church does not teach that we are saved because of works but faith working through love.
I bet you never read your catechism Either the Baltimore catechism or the catechism of the council trent or catechism of the Catholic Church
@@bufficliff8978 I think pastor Mike miss represents the Catholic Church badly. I don't think you ever read the catechism of the Catholic Church Or the old Baltimore catechism Number three. Because it does Not teach works based salvation
The Catholic Church does not teach worksbased salvation. I bet you never Read you Baltimore catechism
@@stanyukica382
It most definitely does teach works based salvation.
Romans 4:5 👑💝
"However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness."
@@dman7668 *Wow you are changing God's Word. Rev 22:18-19 is for you. Romans does mean good works.*
Rom 4. Vs 1-2 - justified Not By Works!
Vs 3 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness.
Vs 4 - Works are debts . Vs 5 - he who Does Not Work is Justified .
Vs 5 - God justifies the ungodly, Vs 5 - Faith was accounted as Righteousness.
Vs 6 - Blessedness Apart from Works! Imputation of Righteousness by Faith.
Vs 8 - imputation of Righteousness apart from Works!
Vs 9-10 - Abraham was made Righteous By Faith before any Works.
Vs 9-10 - Abraham received seal of Righteousness of the Faith by imputation. Not Works!
Vs 11 - Promise to Abraham was through Righteousness Of the Faith.
Vs 14-15 - Faith is made void by works of the law, works of the Law brings Wrath, Not salvation.
Vs 22 - Abraham believed (Faith) and was accounted as Righteousness .
Vs 22 - Righteousness imputed on those who believed. Not those who works!
Rom 11:6 - If it is works, it's no longer grace
you said
Romans isn't talking about works the way you understand it. When it says to the one who does not work, it's talking about sin.
To the one who does not sin but trusts God who justifies the ungodly their faith is credited as righteousness.
It's not saying you don't need good works in order to be justified before God.
Keep doing what you are doing mike. God has gifted you with a great talent to not only study and teach scripture.. but to do it in such a humble and authentic way.
Glory To GOD!!!
Mike was debunked by the "counsel of Trent" youtube channel, a great rebuttal video, I invite you to watch it, the apologist Trent knows his stuff.
The "Council of Trent" goes against the trurh.
@@kimberleerivera1483 the counsel of Trent goes against Mike's biased opinion about what the Catholic church truly
@@lonelyberg1316 I knew what Trent was about for years before I found Mike Winger on UA-cam.
John MacArthur has a message almost as hour long about "Roman Catholicism," and the "Counsel of Trent."
Used to watch your videos when I was a Protestant now God lead me to the Catholic Church. The Church has lasted 2,000 for a reason and no Protestant church has lasted more than 500 years without splitting thousands of times despite being sola scriptura. No non-denominational church will agree 100% with each other even if they were on the same street. That to me says quite a lot.
I have been to countless Catholic Masses, study daily the Bible and I will NEVER become a Catholic. God has led me away from the RCC and into scriptures where you should be to have your eyes opened to the deception of religions like the RCC.
We are saved by grace and faith. This is true. However Christ told us that if we love him, we will follow his commandments. If you sin repeatedly, knowing that what you do is sinful, dare you say that you have faith? "But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds." Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds." James 2:18,
Yes, when one has a true faith in God, there is evidence of that faith. Being transformed by the renewing of your mind. Walking in the Spirit and not the flesh. Being anxious in nothing, but in everything seeking God. Growing in faith, perseverance, character, and hope. Loving God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. Loving our neighbors and enemies as ourselves. Speaking the truth in Love. Being a witness of the truth. Giving a defense for the faith.
Works have nothing to do with saving, they're just an outpouring of God working in us.
@@christian_gamer_guy6447 Well I suppose it depends what you mean by "works" the things you are describing are actions. Having faith, loving your neighbor etc. is a deed that should be visible. Protestants like to move the goal posts when it comes to what a "work" actually is. Praying, having faith, are all actions and yes they absolutely are required for salvation.
"5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. [a]But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work. Romans" 11:5-6
@@TheFeralcatz Having Faith is not a work otherwise Paul would not have made a distinction between faith and works
"8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast." Ephesians 2:8-9
If faith were a work we would have reason to boast that we saved ourselves but we don't because salvation is the free Gift of God given to us out of His Devine Love for us not a payment for something we worked hard to earn.
"16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved." John 3:16-17
@@rodneyjones1990 "Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works." James 2:18
I was one of those who never understood the Gospel until I left Catholicism and began attending a non-denominational, Bible teaching, Christian church. Mike- I can't thank you enough for your great labor of love in breaking down the fundamental flaws in these psuedo-Christian sects and honoring the sanctity of the Scriptures. I'm compiling information to hopefully shine a light on these issues for some friends and family members still deeply involved in the Catholic church. May God bless you both!
Me also
@@dman7668 explain
Please reread council of trent.
Jesus is touching us..bc every thing he did..last supper..on the cross..does not happen over and over..but he transcends space and time...by who he is..always NOW.
Jesus started Catholic church. What gave you the right to leave?
Sad you were not taught well.
I’ve always liked Mike and his calm demeanor. He asks questions that others refuse to.
However, I see confirmation bias permeating this talk. It is amazing for anyone to go into Christian history and completely leapfrog Catholicism and Orthodoxy, as if there was an underground church for 1,500 years. No mention of the heresies that were condemned, the truths that were declared (most of which modern-day Protestants would affirm and be grateful for). The councils were not held by some nebulous Protestant-esque church (which, by the way, happens to be a body which is divided beyond recognition).
One thing that never gets mentioned when critiquing Catholic Tradition and authority is how a parallel is taking place in Protestantism. Their foundation of teaching authority largely comes from former Catholic men (via the Reformation). These men, and those who came after, don't affirm an earthly authority, even as they themselves become authoritative (saying they are truly the ones being guided by the Holy Spirit). They don't affirm infallibility, even as they themselves declare the "true" meaning of various verses. Additionally, they tend to dismiss Tradition, even while ignoring their own tradition of interpretation (knowing what is correct exegesis and what is not).
If you dismiss the Pope and other Catholic clergy, you must defend why your interpretation is correct and whether or not it itself is infallible (and at the same time, you need to explain where such interpretation originated). And you must explain why your exegesis trumps your fellow studied Protestant who holds to a completely different view on, say, baptism and salvation. You cannot escape ultimate authority and tradition. It's impossible.
The person who holds to sola scriptura isn't really saying much. If their interpretation is wrong according to others who also hold to sola scriptura, who is right? The one with more time in seminary? The one who unpacked the Greek meaning? The one who received a vision? Sola scriptura, without an ultimate authority, is a dog chasing its tail. Sadly, simply saying, “I follow the Holy Spirit” or “It’s me and Jesus” isn’t the answer, as it has produced exponential separation and a diluted view of absolute truth.
We must go upstream and follow each split and division. Over time, it--at the very least--leads to Catholicism and Orthodoxy, not a historic Protestant church or the hazy “Biblical Christianity.” It's simply not there and has no continuity, just rebellion based on sins of others and disagreements about who has authority.
Who founded your denomination? Which man or woman? And where did they come from? Where did they get their proper interpretation? Is such interpretation infallible?
If the Reformation was loaded with Catholic men who disagreed with the Church, what were they returning to? When will we reach a satisfactory reform in their memories? Which denomination got it right or is in the process of getting it right?
...work out your salvation...
…those who persevere…
...eat my flesh...
...shall not inherit the Kingdom...
...as by fire...
...No unclean thing...
...bind and loose...
...forgive and retain...
...upon this rock...
...cloud of witnesses...
...God of the living...
...transfiguration...
...we can do nothing apart from God...
etc.
Not my interpretation, but that found in the Tradition of the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church.
You give an extensive explanation and I as a former Roman Catholic give you a simple tip: Read the Bible beginning to end and then let us know your thoughts again. Blessings!
@@awakenedwonderfully8192 bit of an ignorant thing to say, just presuming he hasn’t read the Scriptures. I’m a new Christian, raised atheist, reading the Bible has me discerning between Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, I find the claims of Protestantism very unconvincing.
In contemplating the possibility of joining the Roman Catholic Church many years ago, I seemed to develop an insatiable desire for truth. Since that time I have been, what some may call, obsessed with the quest for truth; devouring the King James Bible, Catechism of the Catholic Church and Abingdon’s Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Concordance. My conclusions and/or opinions presented in this manuscript are based solely on my personal study and research of the inspired written Word of God and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and are totally void of any sectarian influence. Twenty nine years of Bible study and research have been motivated out of a love for truth and not a quest just to ‘prove’ someone else wrong.
The deeper I got into the study of the Scriptures it became more and more clear to me that, contrary to the many good and wonderful things associated with the Roman Catholic Church, there are many definite and even crucial discrepancies between the doctrines and dogmas of Catholicism and the concise harmonious teaching of the inspired Word of God. Finding self contradictions within the Catechism of the Catholic Church added even more intensity to the war that was rageing inside of me. Which was, either to share or not to share my findings with my Roman Catholic family.
The three meager attempts that I made during the past twenty nine years to share some of my findings were unfruitful. The fear of alienating my self from my family was more than I could bear; which has kept me from any further attempts. It was a huge nagging and constant hurt. I knew deep inside that this thing was much bigger that just me and my family. The more I studied the more I cried. The more I cried, the harder I prayed. It was not until this past year, through intense prayer and deliberation, that I came to the conclusion that I really don’t have a choice. Family or no family ... I must follow my heart and trust God totally. I agree whole heartedly with what St. Jerome wrote: “If an offense comes out of the truth, it is better that the offense comes than the truth be concealed”. I began rummaging through and sorting out old manuscripts that I had written over the years with a sense of urgency to share the truth of God’s Word concerning the erroneous doctrines of Catholicism; not with just my family but with the world.
As you read my objections to certain Roman Catholic doctrines, please know that all of my efforts in compiling these manuscripts were born out of love and compassion for my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ. Brothers and sisters in Christ who love the Lord and who believe the gospel’s basic message of salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, but who are deceived and held in bondage under false doctrines derived from the traditions of man and are thereby deprived of the freedom and joy of fully experiencing the magnitude of God’s love. I earnestly Pray that the Holy Spirit will quicken the readers hearts and minds with the Truth of God’s Word and render void any "personal" opinion of mine, or anyone else's, that is not TRUTH.
When Moses was wrong on divorce, did all Israelis who divorced get hell?
Sort by, Select: Newest Comments
and you will see my 13 comments reflecting biblical verses contradicting this poor sap,
who takes scripture out of context, while ignoring biblical history and the
falsehood of the Evangelical Christian movement aka Reformers.
@@dman7668
"He who steeps himself in history ceases to be a Protestant." ~ St. John Newman, a convert to the Catholic Church
“We began to see that as non-Catholics, in good faith we had submitted our lives to Jesus Christ on our terms, not his. We had no other terms. Our Christian lives had been based on our interpretation of Scriptures or that of other persons whom we had chosen to follow.” ~ Fr. Ray Ryland Former Episcopalian Priest now Catholic
There are 2 versions of Jesus = the Protestant version - and - the Catholic Biblical version.
God is able to do all things. Jesus could have remained in Heaven and forgiven our sins, opened Heaven's gates to all, and did not have to come down to earth and live as one of us and die a cruel death. However, God goes to = extremes = to prove His love for us. But God has - expectations - and requires - More - from Christians because we have the perfect example of Jesus - Luke 12:48
From God's Expectations, Commandments and Testing come our guarantee of - eternal - salvation and Heavenly rewards.
Jesus defined a Christian - Must take up your Cross daily, deny yourself and follow Me - Matthew 16:24.
Jesus fasted - superhumanly - 40 days/nights. He dismissed Satan who mocked Him for fasting when He could have all the bread to eat - Matt. 4.
Later, Jesus rebuked Peter as Satan when Peter tried to dissuade Jesus from His path of sufferings and death.- Matthew 16:23.
And Jesus did not take the sour wine offered to Him whilst on the Cross to deaden the pain.
Moreover, Jesus did a World of Works - John 21:25.
Even Paul, like a faithful Christian= boasted =of the Cross -Galatians 6:14,
Christian Rule of Thumb is that if anything is hard/difficult, it is from God. On the other hand, if it is -easy - it is from the devil
The fact is that there are Catholics who leave the Faith because they say it has too many rules and regulations. Of course, they don't realize it is that rules and regulations are like Commandments which were God-issued so that these create a - safe - boundary beyond which the devil, like a roaring lion, is prowling about seeking to devour.
On the other hand, Protestantism has no rules and regulations, no requirements and only promotes - Easy - Christianity and cheap Grace.
List of - Hard - Facts ==
Commandments = Love God and Neighbour, including Enemies = God's Testing = Strive to enter Heavenly narrow gates for Few will enter - Mat. 7:14 & Luke 13:23-24 = Confess to another - John 20:22-23 = Eat My Flesh, drink My Blood - Real Food and Drink- for Eternal Life - John 6:53-58 + Partake of Holy Communion, worthily - 1 Cor. 11:26-27 =Jesus' Parables requiring the multiplication of Talents, becoming more fruitful "soil," wise "virgins" carrying oil, etc.= Vengeance is Mine, I will repay; = Fasting, Prayer and Almsgiving - Rewarded by the Father who sees in secret - Matthew 6. = Jesus urged the necessity of praying always - Luke 18:1. Thus Catholics have adopted the responsibility of praying for others, just as Jesus urged Peter to pray and thereby strengthen the others - Luke 22:32.
List of - Easy - Facts ==
With Faith alone, one is saved by Grace and name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, never to be erased = God's Commandments and Testing have been overtaken by Jesus' sacrifice and covered with His Precious Blood. Moreover all sin debt - past, present and future - has been paid in full. Thus the Guarantee - Absent in the Flesh, present with the Lord, forever = The 4 Gospels were meant for the - lost - people of Israel. Now there is a new covenant in the Blood of the Lamb which means - Once Saved, Forever Saved = Works are unnecessary for Salvation and are boastful = And Christian Marriages that end in - easy - divorce and remarriages.
(( NOTE - In these later times we realize the tremendous growth of evil in the world. More Prayer is required to counter it. For all Christians = Protestant and Catholic = the Psalms are an excellent source of Prayer. Also it is good and beneficial to read and study the 4 Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John which contain the teachings of Jesus brought from the Heavenly Father's = mind and heart = for our Salvation. And in the 1930's, not yet a hundred years ago, Jesus our - Living God - appeared frequently to a Polish nun, Sister Faustina and urged the following prayer =
Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ in atonement for our sins and those of the = whole = world.
For the sake of His sorrowful Passion, have Mercy on us and on the = whole = world. This prayer is contained in her Diary, titled - Divine Mercy in My Soul - which is available in book-stores.
And in 1995, Jesus appeared to a Nigerian, Barnabas, and urged the following prayer = Precious Blood of Jesus Christ save us and the whole world))
By our prayers that intercede for others, we become Christ-like who intercedes with the Father, and thus save many souls.
First off, this is an excellent video littered with salient points. Secondly, as pertaining to the Peter the rock interpretation, it should be noted that almost immediately after Jesus uttered those words, he rebuked Peter and said to get behind me Satan after Peter was not being mindful of the things of God but rather the things of men. The good news is that Christ IS STILL the head of the church, not man, and the word of God is still the ultimate authority to put our trust in, not man, not tradition, and not a religious affiliation, hierarchy, or inherited authority. As a former Catholic, the moment I began to read scripture and absorb it, the more that quite a bit of the theology that I was taught through my Catholic education and CCD began to stick out as being in opposition to scripture. I still have many family members, including my amazing mother, and very dear friends whom I love that are devoutly Catholic, and who love Jesus, so it’s not unbelief that is at stake here. What is needed more than anything is for Catholics to read scripture and pray, but also to recognize scripture as even the Jews do as the ultimate authority, not any of the aforementioned things of men.
Peter is infallible when he speaks God's Words, but he is ' fallible ' when he speaks his own thoughts........see Matt. 16: 16, 22-23.
@@veritasmuy2407 Simple, the pope speaks his own words when he says something that is not in the Bible.
@@veritasmuy2407 What makes you think that Peter was the "first pope"??
@@veritasmuy2407 You refer to Mat 16:21-23. You do know that Peter eventually did catch on to what Jesus taught?
@@veritasmuy2407 You keep repeating that Peter was the first pope, yet you do not show any proof to support your opinion in this matter. Seems you know perfectly well that you are presenting something that is false here. So without lies Islam dies??
And Peter only started teaching what Jesus commanded after he understood what was correct. So again we "without lies Islam dies".
And Peter did not teach the mistake he makde but learnt from that. Again "without lies Islam dies".
We know from the many heretical groups like the Gnostics and the Arians etc that people did teach something that was wrong about Jesus. But God ensured that their false teachings are no longer being taught as being correct. So non-Biblical doctrines like Islam are exposed and are being rejected by Christians.
You refer to John 19:25-27 English Standard Version >> 25 but standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene. 26 When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple whom he loved standing nearby, he said to his mother, “Woman, behold, your son!” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!” And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home.
Thanks for your excellent ministry, Mike.
You are thoroughly biblical in your knowledge and very Christlike in your demeanor.
God is using you powerfully!
I was Catholic for too many years.
I know Mike is right, and you are wrong, Lucy.
@FaithHopeGrace but that doesn't mean that the catholic church is not founded by Christ, you can search google for that
If you disagree, explain to me the Catholic doctrine of salvation.
@@lucysolis1435 Exactly.
The Catholic Church gave you the Bible.
From a Catholic perspective: Mike and I could sit down with our bibles, and open up to Matthew 23:9 ('Call no man on earth father...'). Mike would say Jesus is speaking literally here, the Catholic church would say He is not. Mike and I could then flip to John 6:54 (Jesus' discourse about eating His flesh and drinking His blood). Mike would say Jesus is not speaking literally here, the Catholic church would say that this is (effectively) literal and conveying a spiritual truth of vital importance. The question then becomes: how can Mike Winger (through a purely scriptural lens) purport to know when Jesus is, or is not, speaking literally? Should I believe Mike Winger's interpretations? Or should I believe St Ignatius of Antioch, St. Justin Martyr, St. Augustine, St. Thomas Aquinas, and 2000 years of teaching and tradition? The Catholic church, founded by Jesus Christ, is the 'pillar and foundation of truth' described in 1Tm 3:15, and gives us a firm base to stand on when trying to understand the teachings of scripture.
At the one hour and ten minute mark, he criticizes how in Catholicism, the Church is the only one who can correctly interpret the Bible and it become Sola ecclesia and not Sola scriptura.
But do all Baptist pastors interpret it the same way? Or all Lutherans? Methodists? Do all non-denominational pastors interpret it the same way? By this sense then the Bible is interpreted according to each person’s views and it becomes eisegesis and not exegesis.
This man is a condescending salvation merchant
there's a reason why, after 1 year, you have no reply from the protestants
If I may, I’d like to break your assertion down with a few questions and Scripturally-based answers.
Q: How do we rightly determine Scripture?
A: From the Book of John (Jesus’s words): “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, *He will teach you all things* and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.”
In other words, the indwelling of the third Person of the Trinity, the Holy Spirit is the One who truly teaches and opens our eyes to God’s Word.
Q: How can we then determine if someone is teaching soundly by the Holy Spirit’s guidance?
A: From the Book of John (Jesus’s words): “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. *However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you*.”
From the Book of the Acts (Jesus’s words): “But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and *you shall be witnesses to Me* in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
From the Book to the Romans (Paul’s words): “These things we also speak, *not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.*”
In other words, we can be sure that the Holy Spirit is the interpreter in the life of the believer because what the Spirit says will never contradict anything that was previously declared by the other two Persons of the Godhead or the Scripture established by them. Thus, he/she who teaches something contradictory to Scripture (or in a way contradictory to Scripture) is not teaching via the Spirit, and cannot always be trusted to be teaching accurately.
Additionally, the authority of the teaching can be recognizable even from the perspective of unbelievers. For instance, from the Book of Daniel (Nebuchadnezzar’s words): “…[S]ince all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known to me the interpretation; but you are able, *for the Spirit of the Holy God is in you.”*
Q: Who then receives the Spirit, in order to comprehend the Word? Is it Biblically sound to receive interpretation EXCLUSIVELY through a specified, monarchally-structured church laity?
From the Book of Luke (Jesus’s words): “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. If a son asks for bread from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
In other words, any child of God who asks for the filling of the Holy Spirit may receive Him. Does that mean that all are fit to teach/preach? No. But does that mean that the interpretation of the Scripture is not kept by any one person other than the Holy Spirit? Yes! So we should, ultimately, seek God and His wisdom, through prayer and reading of the Word in humility, so that He Himself will open our eyes to the interpretation of His Story to us! We will know that it is the Spirit working in us when His declarations fulfill the Scripture and corroborate the already known words of God.
God bless you, and I hope that the Spirit fills you with a true understanding of the riches in glory through the Lord Jesus Christ!
@@mjramirez6008 I may not be a Protestant, but I do have a Biblically-derived response for the comment, if you’d wish to consider it!
What I find most unconvincing about Protestantism is the fact there are literally THOUSANDS of different Protestant denominations - estimated to be circa 45,000. This is the result of countless theological disagreements leading to open hostility and divisions between the various denominations, which in turn has led to widely diverging beliefs and practices. Since there is no universal binding authority within Protestantism, as there is within the Catholic Church, it is not surprising that there is so much uncertainty as to what Protestant beliefs really are as they differ enormously between the various denominations.
Since they all disagree with each other's interpretation of the Bible, their claim that the Holy Spirit is guiding them must be entirely false since they cannot all be right! And who gave them authority to interpret the Bible? If they have each given themselves personal authority it follows that literally thousands of "Popes" have been created. Is this the true legacy of Luther, Calvin and the Protestant Reformation - a theological free-for-all?
For those whose main goal in life is to refute the beliefs of the Catholic Church, it is absolutely ESSENTIAL to first gain a firm understanding of what the Catholic Church actually teaches, rather than rely on pure speculation or hearsay. Here is a list of books which will help build your knowledge:
1) Catechism of the Catholic Church. This is THE most important book to become familiar with and should be read from cover to cover.
2) The Catholic Controversy - Saint Francis de Sales.
This book presents a powerful defense of the Catholic Faith that has never been equaled.
3) The Fathers Know Best: Your Essential Guide to the Teachings of the Early Church - Jimmy Akin
4) Early Church Was the Catholic: The Catholic Witness of the Fathers in Christianity's First Four Centuries -
Joe Heschmeyer
5) The Bible is a Catholic Book - Jimmy Akin
6) The Case for Catholicism - Trent Horne
7) Jesus and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist: Unlocking the Secrets of the Last Supper - Brant Pitre
8) Behold Your Mother: A Biblical and Historical Defense of the Marian Doctrines - Tim Staples
This is by no means a comprehensive list, but provides an excellent starting point.
To test your Protestant Apologist credentials, why not check out the "CATHOLIC CONVERSION STORY" videos on UA-cam and see how YOU would argue against those highly experienced and faithful Protestant Pastors who have converted to the Catholic faith.
I'm cringing so hard. Hearing all this is so uncomfortable and makes me really sad. A lot of my family is still heavily involved and won't listen to facts proving the undoctrinal ways of the church. I was born and raised Catholic. Came out after 22 years. So many questions were unanswered and I was even hushed for asking questions, that I felt at 10 years old, contradicted the bible. Went thru four sacraments. I thank God for learning many things thru the Catholic Church by His grace, but I'm still dealing with self-condemnation due to what it teaches with confession, repentance, saved by works. I know what the Bible says about it now, but I'll be lying if it still doesn't have a hold on me. Prayers please. Thank you Jesus for your grace, love, and mercy.
Thank you, Mike, for speaking on this subject.
🙏❤️
I’m in the same boat. I still have anxiety and worry.
"Saved by works". Tell me, where in the catechism can that be found? And use one before the second Vatican council. Thanks.
Thomas M works of satisfaction
I know what you mean. Also bring in a catholic home. But they didn’t go to church or anything like that. Only for events( like baptism, wedding, funeral) type of things. Yet we were forced to go the classes. To get my first communion and confirmation. Like you I knew something wasn’t lining up with what was being taught, all I knew is that I love GOD. Eventually I wanted nothing to do with religion, especially catholic religion. But by the grace of our LORD JESUS . I have been saved and full understand where I stand with HIM. Been save going on my 2nd year. Like I you my heart brakes to see my parents fallow traditions and what they hear from friends, then going in to the word them selves. Because of their example my siblings are lost. They don’t know the LORD. I’ll be praying for you. Please pray for my family. The “ Lunas”
May GOD keep fill you with HIS love and mercy always!!
A very good and very Catholic friend of mine recently told me, just do your best. Love God and love your neighbor as yourself as best you can. And trust in the Lord.
I think, in most churches, whether they are Catholic or "just" Christian, most people are just regular people trying to get along through this life and have a basic and fundamental belief that Jesus is our Savior.
Yeah, agreed. I can never be Catholic myself, but most Catholics I think are genuine. I just disagree with a lot of the extra doctrine the Catholic Church tacked on.
Satan made the doctrines, the people are not satan, but they are decieved by him.
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr What? There used to be a comedian named Flip Wilson, you can probably see him on UA-cam. He does this "The Devil Made me do it" routine. Very funny.
Bible Scholars and teachers have no problem deceiving themselves or joining in on doctrines they really know are dubious. In some cases Satan or demons have something to do with that. In other cases not.
If all sin was from Satan, everyone would make it to heaven because they have an excuse.
Satan may influence people in high positions in churches, no doubt. But Satan didn't create the doctrines, men did that, deceived or deceiving or otherwise.
And some people are just wrong. But they all have the same Scripture to test their theories before they become dogmatic.
@@robertbrown6879 I think there must be some real spiritual work going on though. I see Satan in the world, and it seems more than just men.
@@robertbrown6879 I also really believe it was a fallen angel that came to Muhammad and Joseph Smith.
I consider myself Catholic but have rejected many of the man-made additions. I don’t view the Pope as the “world boss”, I never agreed with praying to saints etc, I view communion more symbolic that literal.
The word of the Bible is key.
Salvation is thru Jesus, not thru confession to priests. Much better to confess directly to the Lord. Most of my friends are Protestant and we agree on pretty much everything because we are Christians first.
You are a heretic and a heathen if you reject the authority of the church. Where in Catholic doctrine say that the pope is the boss? I think you should direct that statement to the false sola scriptura doctrine that makes a person's personal interpretation the infallible truth that can be flip flopped 24/7 anytime and anywhere. 2ND Jesus gave authority to the church the power to forgive sins, not the false faith alone doctrine
@@alfray1072 Brother, need not condemn me for following the scriptures of the Holy Bible for the sole eternal authority is God and God alone.
We are Christians, not “Churchians”. The idea of needing authority over people is of the nephilim, of the babylonians. Jesus did not come as a authoritarian warrior with weapons and an army threatening people to submission. He came with the Gospel, with good news. The church was created as a place to spread the good news. No mortal human or institution can forgive sins, that power resides solely with God.
@@HarZoiD Where and when did Jesus declare sola scriptura? If you really follow scriptures, then why reject the authority of the church given by Christ instead of following your own personal interpretation which is the nephilim and babylonian, pagan and self idolatry? 2ND Christ gave authority to the church to forgive sins. Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom to Peter and the authority to BIND AND LOOSE to his church in MAT 16:18-19 ; MAT 18:18 meanign Peter / Cephas is the chief among the apostles. In JOHN 20:21-23, Our Lord gave us the sacrament of confession and reconciliation; St. Paul expanded on it in 2 CORINTHIANS 2: 10; telling the elders at Corinth that when they forgive.....it is in the person of Christ. Jesus' ministry was all about reconciling us with the Father. for one,
St. Paul describes his ministry as an apostle as a “priestly” ministry in Romans 15:16. That seems pretty plain to me. In fact, the apostles and elders of the New Testament clearly forgive sins, which is a function of a priest as well in John 20:23; James 5:14. And this is just to scratch the surface. So in answer to your point, the apostles and elders of the New Covenant are revealed to be priests in Christ after the order of Melchizadek. That is why we call them “priests.” They are priests.
Jesus gives his power to forgive sins to His priests.
John 20:22
If you forgive anyone's sins, they are forgiven; if you retain anyone's sins, they are retained.
John 20:23
After saying this he breathed on them and said: Receive the Holy Spirit. (Recall Genesis 2:7)
2 Corinthians 5:17-20
"God ... has reconciled us to himself ... given us the ministry of reconciliation."
James 5:14-15
"Presbyters of the church ... pray over him ... he will be forgiven." (Prayer of presbyters forgives sin.)
Matthew 16:19
Jesus gives the Apostles the power to bind and loose sins.
Matthew 18:18
Whatever you bind and loose on earth, so it is in Heaven.
See also: Luke 22:29-30, James 5:16
After forgiveness, the need for reparation can remain.
2 Samuel 12:13-14
"The LORD ... has forgiven your sin ... but ... child born to you must surely die."
Luke 19:8-9 Jesus praises Zacchaeus for his promise of reparation.
@@alfray1072 I hope my point about authority wasn’t misunderstood. We are coming from similar places. I am not denouncing Church. I’m saying people get so caught up in defending their own denominations instead of defending God’s infallible word. God’s Kingdom is open to all who put their faith in him, not by having allegiance to 1 denomination. Humans love to gate-keep.
As for binding and loosing: Its more so that God gave them the “authority” to continue spreading the gospel (a major task), not that they have the power to judge people. The gospel says sins will be forgiven thru God’s grace, by him becoming man and dying for our sins. Its not that a particular apostle or priest or pastor has special powers to nullify sins. In that case, they would effectively be God. All they are doing is communicating (thru the Holy Spirit) that God will forgive you if you come to him asking for forgiveness.
Its a slippery slope seen many times in the Bible when humans start to discern right and wrong based about their own opinions, ie the golden calf. Let the word lead. Bad things happen when we add on. (See Galatians 1:8-9)
At the end of the day, all churches are subject to corruption, especially if they hold their own authority next to or higher than God’s word. That goes for all denominations. A governing body isn’t the church, the physical building isn’t the church. WE are the church (1 Corinthians 6:19-20).
Nephilim, Babylon, paganism isn’t my interpretation. Those are empires used to show us how humans can be lead terribly astray.
I’ll counter your first question: Where in the Bible does it say to keep adding to the Bible?
May God bless you
@@HarZoiD The Holy bible as the infallible Word of God and God's Saving Grace is not the issue here, we are the church that codified and canonized the Canon of scriptures (Holy bible) in the 4th century and we are the church that continues to administer the Sacraments for 2000 years. The issue here is the false sola scriptura doctrine that you are covering up and sidestepping because you cannot defend it from the unbiblical bible itself. The Catholic Church is not a denomination, it is a kingdom, denomination only applies to protesting cults and sects because legally and technically they are registered SOLE corporations. There is only one church Christ established and that is the Catholic Church. The church and its offices are infallible not the clergy. Again, Christ established the church and gave authority to it that is why we follow church teachings, not your own personal interpretation i.e. false sola scriptura unbiblical doctrine
Thank you. My fiance and i recently came to Christ and she is a catholic. Videos like this one helped me educate her and make a more informed decision. We still go to that church for the priest but she understands she is already saved.
"she understands she is already saved."
She was saved scripturally when she was baptized (1 Pet 3 21), receiving the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and sanctifying grace lost in the si of Adam.
@TruthHasSpoken no she was saved when she believed in her heart and confessed that Jesus is Lord!
If baptism is the thing that saves, that is a work and works cannot save you.
Or was Jesus lying when he told the their on the cross that he would be with Jesus in Paradise that very same day. The only thing that their did was beleve that Jesus is God and placed his faith and trust in Jesus Christ. There was no baptism or works of any kind. But Jesus declared, he was indeed saved and would be with Him in heaven. No baptism whatsoever
@@TinkerBell-bt6vu "she was saved when she believed in her heart and confessed that Jesus is Lord!"
*Scripture:*
_baptism now saves you_ (1 Pet 3)
_“He who believes and is baptized will be saved_ (Mk 16)
"that is a work"
It's following the commands of Jesus, Our Lord and Savior. It is a work of love to follow him.
"The only thing that their did was beleve"
Which is a work of the intellect and will.
"There was no baptism"
Where does scripture say that?
Book ___
Chapter ___
Verse ___
"or works of any kind."
*Scripture:*
_39 One of the criminals who were hanged railed at him, saying, “Are you not the Christ? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we are receiving the due reward of our deeds; _*_but this man has done nothing wrong.”_* (Lk 23)
The good thief did one of the GREATEST works of love ever, he defended Jesus as he was crucified.
*Scripture:*
_You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone._ (Ja 2)
Justified by works of LOVE, not the the works of the Old Testament law. The latter can not save. And when one is justified, made right with God, they are 100% saved!
Protestants attack the Catholic church and say to Catholics this is not an attack on you. It's confusing to me because as a person who grew up as a Catholic, from experience, Catholics (the ones who truly practice) are probably the most humble and patient Christians I have ever seen. By their fruits I know them. I can't hear a criticism on the church and yet receive it as not a criticism on me. The Catholic church is what Catholics are. They are not 2 separate entities. I do believe you have the right to critique anyone and anything, but you cannot say it is not a criticism on me. It is, though, you do have the right to criticise the Catholic church - me.
I think you should be open to hearing the ways your church may be operating contrary to the Bible. I have Catholic family members. The Catholic church gets a great deal of teaching correct. They are very close to Lutherans. The one great exception is the church goverance including the Pope. We also do not venerate Mary and our clergy can marry. To disagree on these things does not mean I do not love my Catholic brothers and sisters.
@@run4cmt
Still waiting on what the "contrary to the Bible" claim is.
Can you provide if you know if you are saved? Please ask them. I did. They cannot answer your question. They could not answer my question. I felt betrayed.
The scriptures teach you can know and they withheld it from me.
In the end it will be you and Jesus Christ alone and no one else.
The scriptures do teach you can know if you are saved, but they don't teach those passages and condemn anyone to believe those passages. They were taught by Jesus and the apostles. They are in there. You can know you are saved. It is a gift of God lest anyone should boast.
If you read those passages you would so easily believe them like I do because I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe He died on the cross and shed His blood.
He died as a substitute in your place so you can inherit eternal life. Believe in Him, you will receive eternal life. Salvation is a gift of God. It is given freely.
He did not just die for only your past sins like they teach. He died for all your sins past, present and future. You are covered.
They don't teach Jesus died in your place and that he shed His blood for all of your sins including the future ones. Confess Jesus Christ is Lord in your life and you get to inherit eternal life.
Bro I just want to say thank you for your study and presentation of it. I believe The Holy Spirit is working within your online ministry. Thank you.
Why are you thanking him for spreading lies about the church that Jesus founded?
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen Jesus Christ didn't found the Catholic Church. it was the 325AD Council of Nicaea headed by Emperor Constantine 1 which was attended by bishops/popes of West and East Roman Empire May/Aug. 325AD
---From 30Ad--100AD--NPT ONCE is the Catholic Church ever mewntioned in the Bible!!!
First CC built in Jerusalem 326AD.
@@mitchellosmer1293As you say...there were bishops before 325AD - so how did those get ordained without a church in existence?
@@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen quote--as you say...there were bishops before 325AD - so how did those get ordained without a church in existence?--unquote
"The first Bishop of Antioch was St. Peter the Apostle, and the third, St. Ignatius, who became Bishop in 67 AD. and whose letters..."
---"Peter was the founder of the Church of Antioch and its first bishop."
---"St. James the "Brother of the Lord" and first Bishop of Jerusalem."
---"Of those who said these things, one became first Bishop of Jerusalem, the blessed James, of whom Paul saith, "Other of the Apostles saw I none, save James, the Lord's brother" (Gal. i. 19)"
---"The Apostles themselves were the first bishops in the Church..."
Catholic convert from a Greek Orthodox childhood and non denominational re- entrance into the faith.
15 minutes into this, and I see a few caricatures. Keep your heart open, Mike and keep asking questions.
God bless you
leave the catholic church like I did they don't practice the bible
@@michaelvaughan2160 your name looks familiar... you aren't from CA... are you?
@@nicholasgeranios I am
@@michaelvaughan2160 bethel island?
@@nicholasgeranios nova scotia
God Bless you and thank you for doing this. I have been asking God for guidance and he lead me here and I am so glad I listened to my Lord! Thank you Jesus for saving me… ❤
Hey Mike, thanks for your humility and faithfulness in this video and all your teachings!
You need to be careful with some of these preachers. This Pastor worship on Sundays as a Sabbath. He cares less about the 4th Commandment found in Exodus 20v8-11.
Remember - If you worship on Sundays as your Sabbath, you're in violation of the 4th Commandment found in Exodus 20v8-11.
Also, you need to know that Sunday Worship was created by Satan as a counterfeit to the real Sabbath. Read Exodus 20v8-11.
@@MountCarmel007 sorry I believe that everyday is a day of worship not just Sunday. That ' rule ' in the OT was to tell some time in rest and in worship. Look at what Jesus says about the Sabbath in the NT.
@@MountCarmel007 Vince you missed the point about the law being a pointer on the fact that nobody is saved by keeping the Law all of it, We cannot avoid it no mater how good we think we are without sin. We in the Age of Grace are saved not by the keeping of laws but by accepting the free gift of salvation through the death Of Jesus on the cross and his payment for all sin . We are not under legalism (the Law) We do however as saved people avoid sin where possible. The Law was given by Moses as a dispensation to the Hebrew people to show what sin is. This is not for the Church. The old testament also said Prostitutes should be stoned to death but the Church does not follow that today. You must rightly divide the word, Who what why where and How might help you along with careful Study. All the bible is meant to inform but it may not every event directly pertain to You. Christians do not follow a Jewish tradition of Sabbath. Colorful but Satan is not a creator of any good thing, he is a liar, a thief and a destroyer.
@@MountCarmel007That was part of the Mosaic laws. Please read with context.
@@joycesavage2629 Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath
Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day.......
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, c
Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath).
Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,
Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, and the Sabbath was about to begin
Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.
Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, ....
John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day, in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
John 19:42 o because of the Jewish day of Preparation, since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover
John 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre,
btw---Matt --14:19----- Jesus "broke bread"--Communion?? No. they ate bread and fish.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
I posted this several months ago. NOT one catholic has replied! Why????
Catholics claim Sunday is a holy day made by God.
I will ask these questions again which NO ONE can answer.
And I know you will NOT!!!
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE RESTED on the First day of Creation?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE BLESSED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE SANCTIFIED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE NAMED the First day of the week ?--(to make the day special).
Where in the Holy Bible does GOD say HE DECLARES the First day of the week as HIS HOLY DAY?--(to make the day special).
FACTS:
The ONLY DAY GOD RESTED on---7th day. Gen 2:1-2, Ex 20:8-11
The ONLY DAY GOD BLESSED---7th day.Gen 2:1-2, Ex 20:8-11
The ONLY DAY GOD SANCTIFIED---7th day.Gen 2:1-2, Ex 20:8-11
The ONLY DAY GOD named--7th day.-Sabbath -Isaiah 58:13
The ONLY DAY GOD DECLARES AS HIS HOLY DAY------7th day---Sabbath--Isaiah 58:13
.Quote the Holy Bible and prove me wrong!!!
(When a law is once enacted by proper Authority, that law must remain in force until that same Authority repeals it; and the repeal must be as plainly stated as the original enactment." - anonymous)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
To those that INSIST we are to worship God every day:
(1 Cor. 10:31), but worship is a distinct activity in which we set aside other tasks and set our minds and hearts fully on the Lord, in order to receive his Word and to respond back to him with prayer and song-in private, in families, and especially in corporate worship.
In other word--DO NO WORK!!!
Perhaps the most sweeping biblical text encouraging us to glorify God in all things is 1 Peter 4:10-11:
Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms. If anyone speaks, [he] should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, [he] should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised [literally, “glorified”] through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever. Amen.
-------AGAIN, if you worship God everyday, you are DOING NO WORK!!! Setting aside the whole weeks, months, years and dedicated only to God.
Many great men came and gone but the Catholic church is still standing tall! Catholic church is founded by Christ himself, and He is true to His promise. May the Lord bless you and bring you to the fulness of faith.
@@veritasmuy2407 You may be interested to know that while the Catholic Church teaches that sacred Tradition and the teaching office of the Magisterium are sources of divine revelation, it does not say that these sources are infallible as the Bible is. Scripture supports that tradition is for the good of the believer so long as it is in service to Christ (1 Cor. 11:1-3). Paul writes in his first letter to the Thessalonians that the solution to errancies in teaching is not to reject all teachings, but that we have a responsibility to receive them and judge their fruitfulness (1 Thess. 5:19-22). Nobody should deny that there are evil powers that would abuse the Church for their designs; the Church is a body of sinners led by the sinless Christ. But we do not believe that that is reason to turn away from the Spirit who speaks through the lowly.
Edit/Revision: I would like to clarify that Catholic teaching defines Sacred Tradition as the body of truths revealed by Christ and the apostles and passed down, not necessarily recorded explicitly in Scripture, and in that sense Tradition is infallible. I conflated that definition with teaching as is presented by modern Church leaders. Similarly, there are specific conditional occasions in which the Magisterium can make definitive statements of teaching, though this is not the case of everything that a person says. An infallible teaching by definition necessarily has no conflict with Scripture, and so the Bible is a helpful and necessary metric against which teaching is to be tested.
Nope. It was founded by the Romans.
55:51 this is why I have a huge issue with the Catholic faith. And I’m a cradle Catholic who has very recently started deconstruction of my faith. You’re never good enough to be saved and that aspect can bleed subconsciously into other areas of your life. It never resonated with me growing up and I think my life experiences that largely differ from my family members is what pushed me to dig. Oh and they don’t really “teach” you anything. I learned more in the last couple months than I did growing up going to church every weekend for 18 years and 12 years of private school. I feel like that could be done intentionally. My parents still think mass is the most important thing on the planet but never did or encouraged my siblings and I to crack a Bible. It’s being saved at face value and looking the look.
Check out Luke 15: 11-32, where it tells of the Father's longing for His child to come back home. Blessings !!!
Romans 10:9 - 13
God bless you and please read your Bible
Start saying the rosary faithfully (all fifteen mysteries - birth of Christ, passion of Christ, resurrection of Christ) and all will be revealed to you. Submit your will to God and the Holy Spirit will lead you. If you fill your head space with holy things, you won’t question your salvation. It’s not an easy thing to do, but it’s necessary.
Sounds about right Maryssa
@@nicolettelindsey6902 SAYING this IS NOT MYSTERY and they are full.of LIES
CATHOLISM IS FALSE RELIGION
Praying these so called PRAYERS and SPEAKING of Mary IS RIDICULOUS
you all have another Mary
Mike your ability to contend is mind-blowing, it wears me out, I think it's a gift from God, and I'm not sure how to thank a Christian who is obviously doing God's will, but I listen until I'm worn out. Cheers and Blessings. TG
@Mike Winger have you heard Dr. Scott Hahn? His story, his scriptural studies that led him to Catholicism? I would be interested in a discussion between the two of you on Catholicism and apologetics!
Wont happen! Mike is too scared to debate!!’
There wouldn’t be much of a debate, Dr Hahn has actually read the Bible
@@gwendolynnorton6329 True....Scott Hahn has the truth and has read the bible. Mike has no chance because the truth is on Hahns side.
I am so happy that I was blessed to lead out of darkness and into the Light of the world, Jesus Christ. Thank you Holy Spirit !! Praise God and our Lord Jesus Christ
I was baptised as a child in the Mormon club, but wasn't saved until a full 20 years later. Still trying to organize a proper baptism, but finding a church in England that isn't pro-abortion is difficult for people without motor vehicles :L
I went to this 17th century church built by Christopher ren in london, nothing but queer theology 😭 many historic churches in England have to rely on music services in order to even stay alive. But there's this one church built in the 16th century called metropolitan tabernacle in elephant and castle. Think what you will about Baptist's but at least this church is not compromising theology to adhere to worldly social issues.
I don't know what you mean by saved. But you should probably have a legit baptism with the proper words and form
You don't need a priest to baptize you! Any Christian can baptize any other Christian. Baptism is just a public declaration that you beleive that Jesus is the Lord of your life! That you beleive that Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected on the 3rd day and is now seated at the right hand of the Father. That you are declaring your faith in Christ and that you are declaring to the world that you trust in Him for salvation and that He is God!
Nowhere does it say a priest or pastor needs to baptise you! It doesn't have to be in a fancy baptism tank in the church. It can be in a puddle on the side of the road! The Eunic was literally baptized on the side of the road in a puddle!
You don't have to wait for a special occasion, and you don't have tonwait to take a "baptism class" or anything else! Find another mature Christian who you love and trust and ask them to baptize you! Again, there is zero requirement in scripture that it must be a priest or an "ordained pastor' or anything like that!
God bless you!
Saved? How!?
I believe you don't need a church to baptize you. Us Bible believing, following Christians can do that for you.
John the Baptist did this alone. The Eunuch was baptized alone.
I must say you handled this with much love and Grace. This is very well done. There is so much more to be said and I believe you had a hard time holding back the "much more", but very gracefully done. Thank you very much for sharing your evidence & understanding of catholicism.
I have come out of babylon and truly appreciate this, as I find myself currently defending my new faith to an old friend and trying to lovingly show the error of what is being taught in the church. So thank you for this.
Thank you so much for this video, Mike. I’ve been working with my girlfriend on shedding light onto what’s actually going on in the RCC and how the gospel is made simple, but they make it dubiously complicated
I can relate
@TradCat Sister Jesus said, renounce yourself and carry your Cross. How can the gospel be simple? It is a lie.
*CANON I.* -If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema.
Mike Winger just took advantage of your ignorance, nothing more. Notice how he just invites some submissive woman to agree with him on everything and doesn't bother accepting Trent Horn's request to have a friendly chat, or any other Catholic theologian for that matter. His so called "research" is a joke.
You want me to prove to you that it is a joke? Simple. He never qualified the word "merit" when quoting the canon of Trent, and he said he did not understand what merit meant there, and yet he didn't mind making absurd conclusions about works salvation and all the basic ignoramus Protestant claims.
The canon he quoted on merit was about condign merit, not strict merit, i.e merits within a promise not within a law. For example if God tells you to go kill your own son, and you obey and go up to the mountain, then God is still not obliged to give you any reward, but because he loves you he will give you a reward, it is condign not strict. If you didn't go up to the mountain you would have no merit, and God would not call you Abraham.
*CANON II.* -If any one saith, that the grace of God, through Jesus Christ, is given only for this, that man may be able more easily to live justly, and to merit eternal life, as if, by free will without grace, he were able to do both, though hardly indeed and with difficulty; let him be anathema.
*CANON III.* -If any one saith, that without the prevenient inspiration of the Holy Ghost, and without his help, man can believe, hope, love, or be penitent as he ought, so as that the grace of Justification may be bestowed upon him; let him be anathema.
*CANON IV.* -If any one saith, that man’s free will moved and excited by God, by assenting to God exciting and calling, nowise co-operates towards disposing and preparing itself for obtaining the grace of Justification; that it cannot refuse its consent, if it would, but that, as something inanimate, it does nothing whatever and is merely passive; let him be anathema.
The Gospel is about loving God with all of your being every day of your life, that's it. It is not simply about knowing Jesus exists, it is about having him as your Lord.
Very simple, but Protestant heretics just seek for some golden nuggest of irresponsibility they can clutch to and call it a day, never fear Jesus' commandments again and "sin boldly" as Martin Luther puts it.
Destynation Y why do you generalize Protestants? Who cares about Luther. That was a time of darkness and corruption within the RCC. No one is claiming he’s the most intelligent man of his time. He was fallible, just like the Council of Trent was. Most Catholics aren’t even aware of what Trent teaches, because it boldly goes against what many Catholics believe today
This video confirms everything I have believed since I left Roman Catholicism 37 years ago! Praise the Lord!
Google “which church did Jesus start?” Catholic....you just left Jesus church! You can come back! You should!
@@johnyang1420 you’re 200% right, Catholic
Not Roman Catholic
Catholic typically means Roman Catholic and an allegiance to Peter primacy. Catholic really includes Orthodox church.
You left the church that Jesus started. Stupid!
@@johnyang1420 bruh, he literally covers how your assumption here is incorrect In This Video.
What are your takes on some of the recent Catholic apologetics books? I’m finding trouble when reading Trent Horn’s recent book “The Case for Catholicism”...
Any chance you’d do a debate with Trent Horn?
Trent Horn did a rebuttal video on one of Mike's videos on Catholicism.
Trent Horn completely decimated and rebutted Mikes previous videos on Catholicism
@@loveyceecee4557 I doubt you're right
@@travislewis2991 Oh, he is. I'm not Catholic, but Trent gave him a run for his money. Mike's issues with Catholicism are presuppositional in nature. Catholics don't even believe in the Catholicism that keeps most protestants in Protestantism (per their presuppositions). I recommend that you watch it.
Lovey
Its true! Trent destroyed Mike in the rebuttal video! Mike just keeps putting out this bad theology! Convincing people to leave the one true church of Jesus Christ....Catholicism!! Sad! Shameful!
Wow.. Ok, so I’m a Protestant becoming Catholic who has only been studying this stuff for a few years.
Even so, every single point you made, I knew of a counter argument for, most of it actually being scriptural, that ruins the arguments you’ve presented.
Scriptures that I’m sure you’re well aware of too, which is why I found it so incredibly frustrating.
Nonetheless, I have to take the time out of my day to write all of this down in an organized response now to set the record straight for anyone who saw this video. So you will see another comment soon, which will be that. I hope it can be fruitful and edifying. If you truly didn’t know some of the things I’m going to include in my next response, I don’t know how- It’s all over the internet. This is not high level stuff that you have to sift through theology books to find.
FOR CHRIST IS THE END OF THE LAW FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS TO EVERY ONE THAT BELIEVETH.
ROMANS 10:4 KJV
end = goal, target
@@blain20_ No. The Bible says what it means and means what it says. And when it says end, it means end.
Have you guys noticed that literally EVERY OTHER system outside of Bible believing Christianity (I refuse to call it protestant) lessens Jesus in some way? Some even do it to a Satanic, mockery level. The Jesus of the Bible is never good enough in these systems. If that isn't Satan, IDK what is.
@@78LedHead Who is this guy?
@@rafaeliacsity5315You just completely ignored what the New Covenant stands for... The New Covenant does not abolish the Law, but instead writes them in our hearts and minds, and to do them out of love for Jesus. (Hebrews 10:16)
The Law (10 Commandments) are still extremely relevant, and we do them out of love, not for salvation. And those who teach others not to do them are liars. (1 John 2:4, Matthew 5:19, 1 John 5:2-3, John 14:15, Matthew 19:16-18. Romans 3:31)
If Christ was truly the "end" of the Law (a lot of people refer to the Ten Commandments), how come James and John and even Paul still endorse them? Besides, without the law, how could we know what sin is? It wouldn't even exist! Because sin is the "transgression of the law" (1 John 3:4).
Remember, we don't keep the law to be saved; we are saved by grace through faith, but Commandment/Law-keeping makes that faith manifest. I'll pray for you my friend. God bless you! 🙏🏼❤️
Have you ever considered debating or even just having a discussion with a leading Catholic apologist or something on this stuff? I think something with someone like Trent Horn, for example, would be really interesting and fruitful for everyone involved.
They won't do it, the majority of Catholics don't read their Bibles.
@@Jen-tt9yx I bet most catholics know their bible better than you
My question is why? Why get it second hand when we can get it straight from Catholic writings?
Why get it from someone who is deceived and being lied to when we can get it straight from Catholic writings.
And from the writings its clear Catholics teach another Gospel.
"But my ...... doesnt teach this". They all fall under the Pope and under Rome as Rome claims the be over all churchs that uses its name and theology.
So like it or not its the truth.
@@devjono Full disclosure, I'm a Catholic. And I would object to the way he presents a lot of these quotations from the various councils and the catechism, as well as the ways he interprets certain scripture passages. I also think there are fundamental problems with Christianity without a central governing body. He also completely mischaracterizes certain core tenants of Catholic theology. I don't really want to get into a debate in this comment section, but I do think it would be helpful to have dialogue and an opposing perspective for everyone to see. And if the two viewpoints clash and one of them really does appear more rational, that will lead significantly more people to the truth, which is a good thing no matter what.
@@jmwilson100 i understand but it also works in the opposite direction. Take James White and Trent debate. Protestants say James White was right. Catholics say Trent was right.
Sometimes it just doesnt help.
And like I said. Why? We have Catholic writings from your infallible Popes. And from these writings we can show its another gospel. We dont need anyone to interpret it for us.
Your theology has helped change my life and turn me away from sin.
@mike winger God bless you! I completely agree with you about the catholic church. Please have a discussion with sam shamoun , he's beginning to be blinded by tradition.
Jesus started the one Catholic church. Mike protests it. Sounds crazy? It is crazy! There is no salvation outside the Catholic church. If you follow Mike, you are in danger.
@@johnyang1420 you really need to do your research man, i don’t want to be a jerk but have you actually read the Bible? It doesn’t sound like it if that’s what you think.
@@Tonyinthestony Im not trying to be a jerk, but I do read the bible a lot. Jesus started Catholic church. You and Mike are against it. There is no salvation outside the Catholic church. You and Mike are not going to heaven. Your choice.....you can change that....but you probably wont.
@@Tonyinthestony Luke 10:16...if you reject Catholic church.....you reject Jesus.
Terrific we've got Mike Winger to tell the world what is true Christianity. Mr. Winger, I am a Catholic. Tell me if I left the Catholic Church, which church do I join?
I was a Roman Catholic... but Got Saved at 17... wasnt easy because My Family have never accepted my Faith
After my father died, my Uncle tried to influence my mother to come back to Catholicism after about 40 years
@TradCat Sister Amen. The church is the body of Christ, and Christ only has one body.
Good on you brother. I was not Catholic but an uninformed believer with Catholic family and I know how it feels to be rejected because it happened to me once I was saved by the Lord. My support to you
@TradCat Sister the Church of Jesus Christ has to be corrected at times including its leaders. Just like Paul corrected Peter. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, not the Church. If a group points you to something or someone as preeminent before Jesus Christ that leads to error.
@TradCat Sister unfortunately for you and those of your persuasion there is ZERO Scriptural evidence to support the office of the Papacy, it simply isn't there. That's why the emphasis (by you and others like you) and overreach on verses that point to the Church as God's vessel for HIS truth, because that enables any Biblically invalid interpretation of verses as somehow authoritative. Those Jedi-mind tricks (for lack of a better term) don't work on a Bible believing saint of God, because we see the weak foundation of such nonsense. Me thinks the lady doth protest too much.
The supremacy of the Pope and submitting to doctrine is what actually made me become Catholic. The non-denominational churches could or would never answer my questions. I was always told to just pray about it and see what God says. Having a core set of beliefs, rules and guidelines has actually given me the freedom to enjoy and worship our God. Before Catholicism, I questioned every pastor and their teachings. Now I just trust in a 2000 year old theology to interpret scripture for me. I know that may sound wrong, but I am not a smart man or well read man. When I tried reading and interpreting the Bible for myself, I steered myself into some dark corners. I truly needed the help of a Church I trusted to teach me what God was saying.
Your experience is why "Sola Scriptura" is a flawed idea. Even Martin Luther lamented the idea that some random milkmaid would think she could interpret the Bible for herself.
The Holy Spirit guides us into all truth (God’s word is truth), not the Church, Pope, or Priest. The Church does not decide who gets the Spirit and who does not. That is Jesus’ role.
Your intellect does not hinder you from understanding God’s plan for you and the world. The apostles were common men but they had God’s word (Old Testament) written on their heart. The same can be true of you but in Catholicism too many unbiblical beliefs have been laid upon people that study of God’s word suffers. I pray you seek God with all your heart, mind, and strength because you can’t rely upon your priest to do that for you.
@@jamescampbell3605 The church is led by the Holy Spirit, because the church is the authority not your own personal opinion of the bible i.e. false sola scriptura doctrine. Now who among the 40K+ protestant denominations should I listen to that is guided by the Holy Spirit?
Boy, did you pick the wrong one though! Peter never even went to Rome! Google it!
Straw man characterization of sola scriptura
I grew up Catholic, went to Catholic schools, and thought of myself as Catholic until about 10yrs ago. When I read the Bible looking for a deeper understanding. And I started to see how much the church's teaching were at odds with the Bible. Also the priests became defensive and upset.
So I'm very interested in hearing this
Out of curiosity, as a former Catholic how do you feel about the points Mike makes?
@@sorenpx Vindicated, would be the best way to describe the feeling. I mean you have to understand, I was all in and bought into everything 100 percent ever since I was a kid. I even considered the priesthood for a time after high-school, but I felt like I would've literally felt a calling, if that's what the Lord wanted. It was hard for me to accept that so many of the teachings are downright heresy and blasphemy. Especially the sacraments of communion and confession. Some of that stuff is still so ingrained, like not eating meat on Friday's during lent, or getting palms and ashes on ash Wednesday. But they have kind of a sinister connotation now, knowing what the Holy Spirt has helped reveal to me. Like Mike Winger said, I don't dislike or judge Catholic's but Catholicism it's self.
@@patrickspitlerjr2929 Thanks for the response. I did at one time seriously look into Catholicism, but the deeper I went the more it sounded like the Catholic church was literally just making stuff up. For instance, confession to a priest rather than directly to God, the Marian doctrines, and the teachings on mortal and venial sins were simply a bridge too far. I found all that, and more, literally unbelievable.
I'd be interested in what you found that were at odds with the Catholic faith. Every time I have a question or concern with the Catholic church I can actually find plenty of sources or reasons in the bible.
@@thovenach Okay. The first commandment, yet catholics worship Mary and the saints. The second commandment, no gravin images, yet they bow to the crucifix and disregard the second commandment completely and lump it with the third. The third commandment, to keep the sabbath Holy, the catholics changed the day from Saturday to Sunday, which is a Pagan Sun worship. Easter is a Pagan celebration of rebirth, that's why the catholics observe it on the third Sunday after the third new moon of the year and not during Passover. The solstice calendar is what the Lord gave to the Jews. Lunar calendar is Pagan and satanic. How about purgatory? Jesus's one time sacrifice wiped away our sin. Purgatory was established in order for the church to collect more money with the practice of indulgences. Indulgences are extra Biblical. The idea that salvation can only come through the catholic church and not from Jesus. The tradition of calling priests Father is a direct contradiction to Jesus telling us to not call anyone on Earth Father. The idea of the immaculate conception, which teaches that Mary was born without out sin, and a perpetual virgin. Yet Jesus had brothers and sisters. The false teaching that Mary Magdalen was a prostitute when the Bible states she was cleaned from seven unclean spirits, although I believe they've walked that one back in the last 20yrs. That only a priest can grant you forgiveness from sin, thus diminishing Jesus's sacrifice. Actually, all the sacraments are extra Biblical. They're works to obtain Grace and righteousness, when the Bible teaches that Grace is freely given and faith is attributed to righteousness. I mean seriously, the only few things that the Catholic church teaches that is Biblical is, the Holy Trinity, Jesus being both all God and all Man, and the crucifixion, death and resurrection on the third day. And they even get the days wrong with that due to the lunar calendar they follow. They, and I'm speaking of priests, bishops, cardinals, and the pope. Are quite literally the Pharasees of the Bible. Haven't you read that at the moment of Christ's death, that the veil in the temple was torn in two, thus granting everyone, Jew and gentile, access to the Most Holy, God the Father. With Jesus as our intermediary and the Holy Spirt as a comforter and bringer of Wisdom? The pope and the Vatican rule with a false power and teachings and tradition that are anti-Christ thus satanic.
Here in Paraguay which is mainly a Catholic country, people are beginning to read the Bible for themselves, and many are finding true salvation through Christ alone.
Pope John 23rd actually told Catholics to read the Holy Scriptures! Whatever he meant by this, it was very good advice.
Reading the Bible is wonderful; it is self-interpreting it that can get weird........like resulting in thousands of denominations and non-denominations.........causing much confusion among the sheep.....see 2 Peter 1: 20-21.
@@AnnTeixeira-v3lno. Nobody self interpret the word of Christ. They tell you all this to continue to pull people from the truth
The Holy Ghost born again Christians receive interprete the word of Christ
Catholic say being sprinkled with water is born again but this is false. You must allow God to dwell in you supernaturally. This is born again baptized in the spirit. It HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WATER
GOD DOES NOT HAVE A MOMMY
MARY WAS NEVER BORN SINLESS
THERE IS NO PURGATORY
GOD NEVER SENT A POPE
PRAYING TO THE DECEASED IS NECROMANCY
MARY HAD OTHER CHILDREN
Why do they want to add to the Bible and then say oh but God didn’t say sola scriptura just so they can add and twist it to mean what they wan t. Instead of reading what it says and stop at the period.
Mike.
with all due respect I think you've misunderstood what the Catholic Church teaches about works and merit.
Catechism of the Catholic Church:
1996
"Our justification comes from the grace of God. Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life."
2001
"The preparation of man for the reception of grace is already a work of grace. This latter is needed to arouse and sustain our collaboration in justification through faith, and in sanctification through charity. God brings to completion in us what he has begun, "since he who completes his work by cooperating with our will began by working so that we might will it:"
2005
"Since it belongs to the supernatural order, grace escapes our experience and cannot be known except by faith. We cannot therefore rely on our feelings or our works to conclude that we are justified and saved."
2007
"With regard to God, there is no strict right to any merit on the part of man. Between God and us there is an immeasurable inequality, for we have received everything from him, our Creator."
2011
"The charity of Christ is the source in us of all our merits before God. Grace, by uniting us to Christ in active love, ensures the supernatural quality of our acts and consequently their merit before God and before men. The saints have always had a lively awareness that their merits were pure grace."
Therefore all works are strictly products of grace, they are not our own, we lay no claim or boast in them. All merit belongs to Christ and his charity which sanctifies us.
So I don't understand why people keep saying that Catholism adds works to grace or adds works to the gospel. It doesn't,
Ephesians 2:10 "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them."
John 15:5-7
"“I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.
It is Christ's merits that are wrought in us, not our own and it is entirely dependant on grace.
THIS ^
As a Lutheran...the Eucharist and Baptism are a means of grace. We receive salvation through faith. Baptism and Eucharist continue to be tangible signs for us to know, remember, and embrace the grace we already received. These sacraments sustain our faith they aren't a work they are a reminder of God's work already done for us.
As a 30 plus year Protestant(Baptist, Evangelical, 4SQUARE), never had reverence or Sacraments. So life drew me towards Catholicism and knowing church history. I am happily in RCIA classes still. UA-cam Keith Nesters and Scott Hanh testimonies.
History? Isn’t history written by a victor? Why would I depend on it when I have the Bible. I was a cradle Roman Catholic and I thank God that I am no longer. Christ alone, grace alone through faith.
I shall only boast in Christ and not in any congregation or institutional church.
I disagree. You are using the word grace too loosely. You say the Eucharist and Baptism are a means of “grace”. I would say a better explanation is that they are a public demonstration of our faith in Christ. You cannot ascribe grace to a deed or to win more of Gods favor.
The “grace” we receive is because of Christs death on the cross. My sins are imputed onto Christ and Christs righteousness is given to me. Because of His death on the cross He can then say “it is finished.” Baptism and communion only looks back to the event.
In Lutheran theology, Baptism and Eucharistic are tangible signs of God's grace that serve as touch stones of tge Grace we have already received. Water is everywhere but we find it more readily at a well. The sacraments serve as a place we know God's grace can be found. It serves as nourishment and reminder in our walk of faith as disciples.
@@vickilarrabee8154 In the Sacrament of the Eucharist, we are spiritually present at the Crucifixion and receive the Body and Blood of Christ, as he commanded us in his new Covenant.
Catholics who practice their faith, meaning they attend Mass each Sunday, hear the gospel every week of their lives. The first half of the Mass is the Liturgy of the Word and we have three readings from Scripture. The third reading is always from one of the gospels. Additionally we pray a psalm. If one were to attend daily Mass one would have read the Bible in it’s entirety.
You can read the Bible in a week. I've known no Catholic who goes to daily mass. If you go to mass daily it takes 3 years to hear the whole Bible, and you hear it in a disjointed fashion. If you only attend Sunday's you'll likely never hear it all because of how the texts are rotated.
I'm not coming with any animus or arrogance whatsoever. It's said with great pride that in three years you can hear the whole Bible, but the first time I actually listened when someone said that, my heart shattered a bit, truthfully, honestly. You might think I'm a fool for ever reacting that way, but how in the world did I ever hear that and find any contentment or comfort? I can read the whole Bible in a week. I can do a vigorous study of a book in a month.
Hearing disjointed, out-of-context verses each Sunday is no comparison to reading it for yourself.
Most people outside of Roman Catholicism don't know that the Bible is gone through over the course of years, but it's a fact that I don't find comforting or encouraging anymore. I now find it embarrassing because I ever believed it was comparable or a satisfactory response to a Protestant talking about Bible reading.
My heart broke the first time I really listened and thought about the concept that it takes years to get through the Bible if you go to daily mass. How does that not break every Catholic's heart? I think we were just taught that it's great for so long that I didn't think about it, but once I thought about it, I changed.
Even in this long blabbering I'm doing here I can feel myself changing again. And I apologize if I'm a little rambly; I haven't talked about this with anyone before, so it's kind of my raw thoughts a bit.
Anyway. Sorry for taking your time, and thanks for your original comment. If there were more comments like yours that just inform people of details and stuff without being condescending or rude we'd have a much better time teaching and learning from one another. Comment sections like these are always a scary place to look through because there's often so much needless cruelty, and your comment was a breath of fresh air.
So thanks, and I hope the rest of your week goes well ❤️
No.
The catholics who learnt the bible must teach its followers or watch drammatic YT bible reading or YT "Mormon" reading. You need the Holy Spirit to understand the bible from time to time.
Psalms were linked to events, but people use them at will.
I am thankful I'm SAVED thru Grace from a Holy God and My Faith in the WORK done for all sinners, by Christ on the Cross, who is also Holy God! Since Man is NOT perfect, and God can only see perfection, I'm thankful for God becoming Man and dying for our sin. I'm thankful when I die, God won't see me, he will see the blood of Christ shed for me. I feel sad for those who somehow think a Perfect God will accept the imperfect works of Man.
@@dragonslayer7587 Yup , Jesus was really hardcore on doctrine, if you didn't accept it , to hell you go........you people have studied the bible and pontificated about God and Jesus, but sadly you never let him into your soul
I don’t know where you get that catholics hear the gospel every week. I grew up in the RCC and was an alter boy. I went to catholic school. I never once heard the gospel. Nor did we ever see a bible in religion class. We used catechism workbooks. Listening to someone read the Bible is not the same as reading it yourself.
You are so kind, both of you. Know this; in the convent, the nuns each go into an empty room where the priest sits alone in an armchair. The nun kneels BESIDE the chair in full view and makes her confession😖.....and when ur done confessing, the priest adresses u by name😖
And says, "i absolve you, Sister Sean Patrick and for your penance, pray 6 Our Fathers and 6 Hail Marys, and 6 Glory Be s.
Thank you, Father....😖
3rd Order of St Benedict in my history.
I was told as a kid who confessed to a priest I felt bad for thinking bad thoughts (thinking negatively... I was only a kid). He said to pray 50 hail Mary's. Then I asked God why I had to pray to Mary, and then felt guilty afterwards and felt condemned for that bad thought right after. It is never ending. You always feel condemned. You never get that feeling of full forgiveness ever. So you keep going back.
I later asked if you can know if you are saved. They did not have an answer. It's because they don't teach it nor believe it and condemn those who do believe it. It's in the scriptures. Someone outside the church showed me.
Mike, your heart shines through in this. Thank you so much.
🙂
Look up Steve Ray and Jesse Romero, good topics
@@catholicfemininity2126 Please watch "The Coming Sunday Law" by Hope Through Prophecy
There's a UA-cam channel called "The Ten Minute Bible Hour" and he did a video called "A Protestant Talks With a Catholic Priest". One of the things that the priest said that threw me for a loop is that Catholics hold the church above the Bible. There are plenty of other things I have issues with, but for this to be a doctrinal stance of the clergy opened my eyes.
A personal story I have: My sister-in-law was raised catholic. She didn't even know who Noah was. She came over to Evangelical Christianity and has improved her life so much from actually digging into the word of God.
Jesus did not leave us a Bible, He left us a Church.......see Acts 1.
@@Michael-nb4ng And those he left behind to start the church said, "hey, this Bible is the word of God. Do not add or take away from it." So, that kind of answers that claim. Catholics add so much that has no Biblical foundation.
@@christhewritingjester3164 You are correct.
@@virtualzhbl.........Like I said, Jesus left us a Church/witnesses.........see Acts 1: 8.
@@Michael-nb4ng Much more important He left us the bible as our foundation for belief which the Catholic church has thrown under the bus.
As a faithful and practicing Catholic there are some things I can clear up, not just what you say in the video, but also other misunderstandings I've heard. First, the Gospel is read and discussed at every mass, but people don't think Catholics ever read or learn the Bible. I've read the bible and have done Catholic Bible studies. Peter was the first Pope and was divinely appointed by Christ, who is God incarnate (which is in the Bible). The term Pope came later, but that's what Peter is referred to as now. Catholics do not believe that whatever the Pope says is infallible except in very specific circumstances. I see many comments from Catholics that haven't seemed to have made much of an effort to understand the faith on their own or to delve a bit deeper than what they've heard or read and that's to be expected with such a large number of people, some of whom are likely young, and being that there is such a long history of texts that were written. That's why lay Catholics are not Priests who must go through the Seminary and study the faith for years. I saw some comments about the Blessed Mother and the rosary that are misunderstandings too, and lack the historical context of the importance of these beliefs and prayers. The understanding of the Church Hierarchy also has a great deal of historical significance since the church was at one time more powerful in a "political" sense. Another fallacy here is that the teachings that exist outside the Bible are not divinely inspired. One thing I've noticed about many Protestant faiths is that they leave out the supernatural aspects of God's power as if God were not able to do something as miraculous as initiate a virgin birth. I could go on and I'm sorry that people haven't been able to answer all of your questions, there are plenty of answers though if you look them up for yourself. I'm not saying the Catholic Church is perfect and that people should become Catholics or that other faiths are bad, it's just that there are so many critiques of the Catholic church that are done without a real effort to truly understand it.
I agree. Catholics who become Protestant oftentimes do so on the basis of their misunderstandings and a lack of knowledge of the Catholic Faith. On the other hand, Protestants who convert to Catholicism, in the majority of cases, do so, as a result of their pursuit of the truth, which leads to an increase of wisdom. It is easy to see that this is true. One simply needs to compare the testimonies of Catholics who became a Protestants, such as the testimonies of many of the individuals in this comment section, versus the testimonies of Protestants who became Catholic.
Which version of the Bible did you read? Again the Catholic Bible is not the same as KJ. Mike speaks on this in the video. Reading the text as it was written. Thinking a priest has the power to forgive you of your sins should be a major red flag to anyone who knows Jesus and his message…
Keep this in mind, if Mike winger is correct Christianity was wrong for 1500 years until Martin Luther came !
I am sorry you feel like the truth was not addressed, but you will admit Mike read from the actual Catholic texts when making his arguments? You say “this is misunderstood” and “you haven’t studied deeply enough” but you don’t offer any actual refutation of his points. For example, when he reads from the Council of Trent, how do you answer that the Council declared it is your works which qualify you for Heaven?
@@pelomocho8567 Mike said repeatedly that many if not all doctrines of the Catholic sect rose after the 4th century, and more came in the time of the 10th and 11th centuries. In other words, more than 70 councils = Catholicism has not always existed in its current form, and it has changed over time. He is addressing specific issues and how they arose in time, while your attempted rebuttal is woefully “meme”ish.
Thank you Pastor Mike! May God continue to give you wisdom 🙏🙌
Former Catholic now born again Christian. I love what you guys do. You're thoughtful and sensitive about the topic. Unfortunately much of what stops ears from hearing is their heart/ sin or indeed politics. I grew up in northern Ireland where it was a huge thing to change faith. Switching sides from this Jesus to that Jesus got me in a lot of hot water at times. It's the same Jesus but sadly the doctrines are so far off the biblical text. Like you I believe there are Catholics who are saved but I think for a life of maybe only 70 years or less we are purposed to discover the truth. Also regarding JW stuff it's mad how many excats are going that way. Scary stuff guys. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
Excats, who left the Holy Catholic Church, are like the prodigal son in Luke 15: 11-32; and God is looking for them come home.......no questions asked.
Catholics are born again also. Jesus started the Catholic church.
@@johnyang1420 yep
Same here I am slowly getting away from the Catholic church. The church is so full of show, and money priests won't even advise church goers to read the bible.
@@Gabby-se7wd both of you. Nope. Christ ushered in christisnity...Constantine gave you the catholic church 325 years or so after.
Love your videos ❤️ I turned to Christ 3 years ago and your videos have explained so much biblical truth that I didn't understand! Please keep doing what you do ❤️
Do you believe that the early council during the canonization of the scripture was lead by the Holy Spirit?
@@zorenleo I´ll try to answer your question.The question is: What do you mean "lead by the Holy Spirit". Do you mean that they were Christians and therefore the Holy Spirit inside of them let them. If that´s what you mean. I don´t know because I don´t know if they were Christians or not. If you mean that God led the process so that they would put together his Word then the answer of course is yes.
check out steve ray and jesse romero. Great talks about the faith :)
I have been struggling with Sin & Demons. And as a Roman Catholic I started going back to confession. However every time I walk on the grounds and see statues of saints, and a “white Jesus” on the cross I’m feeling I’m being mislead. The act of confessing has done nothing for me. And while I say the Hail Mary and our father the demons kept coming. It wasn’t until recently and videos from you and other Christians I’m starting to understand. A sincere thank you, I say to you.
We all struggle with sin and demons, that's literally why God sent His son to die on the cross. Pray to Jesus, not some man. Let God be true and every man a liar.
Oh and what you see is a dead Jesus on the cross in a Catholic church. Every time you go to a Catholic church you have to look at a dead Jesus. Even though He is alive.
Whether you like it or not, Jesus died on a cross. And he was resurrected. They are both him.
Wow, the devil really can access people's intellect and pride. That is why they write these horrible things.
Jesus was a Jew. We don't know exactly what he looked like. Have faith. Just look at a humble Jewish person and that is roughly what Jesus looked like. Maybe you'll see him someday, but he may not be a person - like a light.
Don't let your heart be so heavy.
Look up divine mercy here on UA-cam.
Some Protestants will attack Roman Catholics all day long. They are okay with listening to their interior hatred. The devil can reach the intellect and a person's pride.
You need to learn about Catholicism from Catholic theologians, not Pastor Mike who pulls out definitions in a religious context from a dictionary.
@@metalforever12085 quote---You need to learn about Catholicism from Catholic theologians, not Pastor Mike who pulls out definitions in a religious context from a dictionary. unquote
I WILL QUOTE FACTS to you: anf then tell me I pulled them out of a dictionary.
FACTS"
--The ONLY day GOD RESTED ON--Seventh day!! Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD BLESSED--Seventh dayt---Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD SANCTIFIED--Seventh day--Gen 2:1-3, EX 20:8-11
--The ONLY day GOD NAMED--Seventh day--SAbbath--Isaiah 58:13
--The ONLY day GOD DECLARES as HIS HOLY DAY--Seventh day--Isaiah 58:13, Matthew 24:36-41
----FACTS:
Biblical Proof the seventh day (Saturday) IS the Sabbath
Matt 27:62 The next day, the one after Preparation Day......(.Saturday)
Mat 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, (Sunday)
Mark 15:42 - It was Preparation Day (that is, the day before the Sabbath).
Mark 16:1-2 - When the Sabbath was over,(After sunset Saturday)
Mark 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week (Sunday)
Luke 23:54 It was Preparation Day, (friday) and the Sabbath was about to begin
Luke 23:56 Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.( Just before sunset Friday)
Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, (Sunday)
John 19:31 Now since it was preparation day (Friday), in order that the bodies might not remain on the cross on the sabbath, for the sabbath day of that week was a solemn one,
John 19:42 because of the Jewish day of Preparation (Friday), since the tomb was close at hand, they laid Jesus there. 42 And so, because it was the day of preparation for the Jewish Passover
--FACTS:
About the catholic church: Change the Sabbath"
Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her,- she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority."- "A Doctrinal Catechism," by Rev. Stephen Keenan, page 174.
"The Catholic Church of its own infallible authority created Sunday a holy day to take the place of the Sabbath of the old law."- Kansas City Catholic, Feb. 9, 1893.
"The Catholic Church, . . . by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday."- Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.
"Ques.- Which is the Sabbath day?
"Ans.- Saturday is the Sabbath day.
"Ques.- Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
"Ans.- We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church, in the Council of Laodicea (A. D. 336), transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday ."- "The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine," by Rev. Peter Geiermann, C. SS. R.., page 50, third edition, 1913, a work which received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X, Jan. 25, 1910.
What was done at the Council of Laodicea was but one of the steps by which the change of the Sabbath was effected. The date usually given for this council is 364 A. D.
You ought to talk about this in confession and ask your priest for spiritual direction. Abandoning the Church for heresy is not the answer. What is your concern about the statues of saints and the "white Jesus"?
Thank you Mike!!! I was literally questioning if Catholicism was right or was unnecessarily complex and this video pops up. God is good!!!
Catholicism compared to what ??? Christ built ONE CHURCH........the Church with Peter and Mary.........see Acts 1: 8-14; and it was to that Church that He sent His Holy Spirit......see Acts 2.