Went into a local Yamaha dealership yesterday, I asked the salesman if he'd seen the new CFMoto 450MT. He said, "yes, I've bought one & pick it up next week." That tells me all I need to know about this bike. Enjoy mate!
@@Free_Ranger_CT110 Mate, I don't want to upset you, but this 450cc block already has a ton of problems (SR450). Idle problems, Oil leaks, radiator failures, and overheating engine are common issues. You can get a used T7 for this price (USD 8990, Sterling 5699). I think the Yamaha guy doesn't know what bike he's talking about. You can't compare the legendary CP2 engine with a Chinese engine block. I've already seen too many problems with the 450cc CF Moto engine. It's almost impossible to trust this engine for long distances (1000+ miles, tours).
@@GNDracing you're not upsetting me I'm not the one who's bought the bike. I'm waiting to see how they go long term. I really don't care who buys what it's none of my business, they probably think I'm crazy for riding a CT110 into the outback. Maybe I am.
@@Free_Ranger_CT110 Yes you are crazy and yes I would like to see how the MT450 goes long term. At least a year. At face value it has hit the right mark on a lot of things. It's no CT110 but what is?
I really hope Adam Riemann gets to test one of these, he uploaded a video a couple of months ago, and he talked about brand and bike reliability, he said that it wasn't a good idea to buy cheap bikes, that it was worth paying the extra price for brand name bikes because they deserve your money for their Research and Development, that chinese manufacturers make too nany copies and blablabla, which i think it's not fair to say because every manufacturer deserves a shot at being taken seriously, and CFMoto is by far the most serious Chinese manufacturer right now, and the 450 MT seems to be like a Teneré for the masses, here in Costa Rica a Teneré 700 is upwards of 21.000 USD, and the 450 MT is pretty much 10K USD, they're very expensive, but not as stupidly expensive as Honda and their Sahara 300 for 9.000$, which is pretty much a Honda XRE300 with 6th gear, ABS and some fairings for an unreasonably expensive price, it doesn't even have a windshield! It doesn't even make sense to get that over the CRF 300 Rally, yet, they will sell a few to those brand name enthusiasts that love their brands so much. As an owner of a Versys x300, this 450 MT is the bike i wish the x300 was.
Well they are using Bosch ABS, KYB suspension and fuel injection is pretty well sorted in this day and age. They have done their research in they have identified a segment of the market that are sick of not being heard. Time will be the judge of reliability.
Finally! A bike with a solid twin cylinder engine and reasonable light weight. This is the combination to have for adventure riding, in Australia at least and should put a shot up the other manufacturers to produce this type of bike (and hopefully even lighter).
@@untrainedprofessionals2374 100% agree. I would have had a go myself but I have already spent zillions on my T7 doing that, and intend getting my moneys worth out of it. Maybe when my T7 wears out (which might take a while).
That road from about 8:00min in is one well groomed track, nice! All the videos I have watched with the Aussies riding, I can see everyone is sticking to the break in rev range of 4000rpm or below for first 500km and 6000rpm or below for the next 500km until first service at 1000km. I found this in the owners manual, but I suppose that is just a guide. I myself found I was struggling to keep it under 5500rpm just riding normal back streets in town getting my first 100km up while testing how my ergo set up felt. Yes, I have been checking out what tyres I will get next for dirt tracks. Good stuff.
Did you have to put tubes in the rally race tyres or can you get tubeless. I rode my mates MT, I was very impressed and the sound from that pipe is grouse.👌
Hey guys I notice you put rally race tyres on, just wondering did you go 130/80/18 or 140/80/18, I was thinking about the 140/80 confusing the abs balance rotation. And did you stick with tubeless. Good vid too guys.
Thanks guys, It looks like the bike is great in sand. Did you have the mic next to the muffler? Your video is dominated by the engine sound, which is nice but awfully loud. Do you know what the decibel level is of the stock pipe? Where I live there is a limit of 90 dB at 50 ft distance. I think this will be the bike for me, still waiting for it to arrive in the USA.
Did you drill out your exhaust? Or did you change the silencer? didn't have a good look at your bike unfortunately to see what you did with the exhaust
@@kevinarmstrong478 Rode ours for the first time today, they sound like a supercharged V8 engine - those tractor pulling V8s that run on nitrous. Without earplugs they are too noisy (for us) but with plugs it sounds just right. No idea how they replicate a V8 sound using 2 cylinders, but that's what it sound like to me when driving. Still breaking in the engine so fluctuating the revs between 3200 and 4500. They are amazing to ride - a mini-Africa Twin (we sold ours because too heavy, too big), which is exactly what we wanted. These drive and feel a LOT lighter than the Twins.
I am seriously thinking about trading my Honda for a Chinese bike! The CRF is a great bike but it’s a little slow on the highway. And it’s so boring. I think This is everything the KLR or the NX 500 should be.
Chinese are unable to make bigger engines so far (what they have are old, licensed constructions). 450cc is simply not enough for motorcycle. No engine flexibility. 500 (reall 500) - 600 is required. People have orgasm about this 450 because... the price.
Drove one today, small singletracks great, gravelroads, great, tarmac 140 km/h rock solid, very impressed.
Hey buddy, can I ask was the 140 the top speed please?
Went into a local Yamaha dealership yesterday, I asked the salesman if he'd seen the new CFMoto 450MT. He said, "yes, I've bought one & pick it up next week." That tells me all I need to know about this bike. Enjoy mate!
so this is better than T7 you say? :D
@@GNDracing the man said he had previously owned a T7, so yes he's saying it suits his needs better.
@@Free_Ranger_CT110 Mate, I don't want to upset you, but this 450cc block already has a ton of problems (SR450). Idle problems, Oil leaks, radiator failures, and overheating engine are common issues. You can get a used T7 for this price (USD 8990, Sterling 5699).
I think the Yamaha guy doesn't know what bike he's talking about. You can't compare the legendary CP2 engine with a Chinese engine block. I've already seen too many problems with the 450cc CF Moto engine. It's almost impossible to trust this engine for long distances (1000+ miles, tours).
@@GNDracing you're not upsetting me I'm not the one who's bought the bike. I'm waiting to see how they go long term. I really don't care who buys what it's none of my business, they probably think I'm crazy for riding a CT110 into the outback. Maybe I am.
@@Free_Ranger_CT110 Yes you are crazy and yes I would like to see how the MT450 goes long term. At least a year. At face value it has hit the right mark on a lot of things. It's no CT110 but what is?
I really hope Adam Riemann gets to test one of these, he uploaded a video a couple of months ago, and he talked about brand and bike reliability, he said that it wasn't a good idea to buy cheap bikes, that it was worth paying the extra price for brand name bikes because they deserve your money for their Research and Development, that chinese manufacturers make too nany copies and blablabla, which i think it's not fair to say because every manufacturer deserves a shot at being taken seriously, and CFMoto is by far the most serious Chinese manufacturer right now, and the 450 MT seems to be like a Teneré for the masses, here in Costa Rica a Teneré 700 is upwards of 21.000 USD, and the 450 MT is pretty much 10K USD, they're very expensive, but not as stupidly expensive as Honda and their Sahara 300 for 9.000$, which is pretty much a Honda XRE300 with 6th gear, ABS and some fairings for an unreasonably expensive price, it doesn't even have a windshield! It doesn't even make sense to get that over the CRF 300 Rally, yet, they will sell a few to those brand name enthusiasts that love their brands so much.
As an owner of a Versys x300, this 450 MT is the bike i wish the x300 was.
Well they are using Bosch ABS, KYB suspension and fuel injection is pretty well sorted in this day and age. They have done their research in they have identified a segment of the market that are sick of not being heard.
Time will be the judge of reliability.
Finally! A bike with a solid twin cylinder engine and reasonable light weight. This is the combination to have for adventure riding, in Australia at least and should put a shot up the other manufacturers to produce this type of bike (and hopefully even lighter).
If these bike takes off like I thing they will, there will be a lot of people doing all sorts of modifications including cutting weight.
@@untrainedprofessionals2374 100% agree. I would have had a go myself but I have already spent zillions on my T7 doing that, and intend getting my moneys worth out of it. Maybe when my T7 wears out (which might take a while).
God I love that exhaust note. Cant wait for them to show up here in the USA.
Grate video,450 looks amazing
Great video, good riders, fantastic bike and that country is a blessing for the adventurers!
Energetic decent ride mate.
Bike Looks good. A decent investment I would say.
Ride Safe
Doing these upper central Vic tracks will really tell how great these bikes are! A real test track for sure!
Like a baby T7 with attitude 😂, love it I’m keen to see them about 👍
That road from about 8:00min in is one well groomed track, nice!
All the videos I have watched with the Aussies riding, I can see everyone is sticking to the break in rev range of 4000rpm or below for first 500km and 6000rpm or below for the next 500km until first service at 1000km.
I found this in the owners manual, but I suppose that is just a guide.
I myself found I was struggling to keep it under 5500rpm just riding normal back streets in town getting my first 100km up while testing how my ergo set up felt.
Yes, I have been checking out what tyres I will get next for dirt tracks.
Good stuff.
As predicted by many this bike is going to take the world by storm!😃
The japanese had been caught napping indeed.
Could have been a 6 speed drz or wr450r. Well this is the one we're waiting for!
Did you have to put tubes in the rally race tyres or can you get tubeless. I rode my mates MT, I was very impressed and the sound from that pipe is grouse.👌
Hey guys I notice you put rally race tyres on, just wondering did you go 130/80/18 or 140/80/18, I was thinking about the 140/80 confusing the abs balance rotation. And did you stick with tubeless. Good vid too guys.
Great riding conditions. Is that dirt or sand? Maybe you should change the position of the mic, it's not very clear.have a good day
Wonder how it compares to the new RE 450 for this type of riding
Great video, what tyres were you running?
Pirelli scorpion rally race.
damn ! is that the stock exhaust?? did you have the mic next to it?
Stock, my camera has a microphone so must be picking up exhaust note.
Thanks guys, It looks like the bike is great in sand. Did you have the mic next to the muffler? Your video is dominated by the engine sound, which is nice but awfully loud. Do you know what the decibel level is of the stock pipe? Where I live there is a limit of 90 dB at 50 ft distance. I think this will be the bike for me, still waiting for it to arrive in the USA.
it's not loud stock, in the low 80db at 2.5krpm.
@@metalsadman Thank you mate!
Stock, my camera has a microphone so must be picking up exhaust note. It’s not that load riding.
That engine sounds beefy as fuck! Really tempted by this bike (currently on a G310GS).
How many kms/ litre did they work out tonight be using. Awesome tracks out there by the way. Thanks
Was as high as 9.8 but got better as the day went on but can’t get it under 6.2.
Pretty thirsty but that’s fun in the sand for you. Be interesting to see if they get better down the track a bit.
Did you drill out your exhaust? Or did you change the silencer? didn't have a good look at your bike unfortunately to see what you did with the exhaust
That is how they come standard. No need to do anything.
They sound incredible!
@@kevinarmstrong478 Rode ours for the first time today, they sound like a supercharged V8 engine - those tractor pulling V8s that run on nitrous. Without earplugs they are too noisy (for us) but with plugs it sounds just right. No idea how they replicate a V8 sound using 2 cylinders, but that's what it sound like to me when driving. Still breaking in the engine so fluctuating the revs between 3200 and 4500. They are amazing to ride - a mini-Africa Twin (we sold ours because too heavy, too big), which is exactly what we wanted. These drive and feel a LOT lighter than the Twins.
What's it like at 120kph on the motorway for prolonged periods mate ? Doing it easy? Thanks
120 it does it easy. Anything above starts to use a lot of fuel. Still doable just thirsty.
mine with rear tyre 140/80 reach in 6th gear at 7000rpm 127kmh thats so fine
1st ride and revving the shit out of it
It loves it.
How is this bike with pillion riding
What tyres did you guys Chuck on?
Pirelli scorpion rally race
How would you rate it compared to your T7?
Its a baby T7! Handles a lot better and still has enough power. I really enjoy riding it!
@@MALLEEMOTORCYLES That's pretty much what I was hoping to hear! Guess I'd better book a test ride 😁
I am seriously thinking about trading my Honda for a Chinese bike!
The CRF is a great bike but it’s a little slow on the highway. And it’s so boring.
I think This is everything the KLR or the NX 500 should be.
Wonder if they will make a 650?
Chinese are unable to make bigger engines so far (what they have are old, licensed constructions).
450cc is simply not enough for motorcycle. No engine flexibility. 500 (reall 500) - 600 is required.
People have orgasm about this 450 because... the price.
@@podunkman2709 really? so why do they have a 650 and an 800; why do they build the engines for KTM?
Too weak engine. 500-600cc required to have fun.
Jajajaja se van a morfar un canguro y se van hacer pelota, jajajja los amo y amo esta moto, la quiero ya !!!