EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND HAD THE WORST SERIES FINALE
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- Everybody might've loved Raymond
But nobody loved this series finale.
We're here to talk about yet another terrible end to an otherwise fantastic story.
Everybody Loves Raymond.
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The reaction to Ray in surgery forced the characters to finally do something that really could never be done if it continued. We finally see that Robert does love Ray and was willing to give his blood. Debra realizes that losing Ray would be devastating despite what a pain in the ass he is. Frank does what the patriarch of a family does at that moment which is hide this momentary secret for his wife's benefit.
Personally I loved this series finale. I like the fact that it didn't involve characters acting out of the ordinary or involved someone moving away, getting married, or someone giving birth. Those tropes aren't bad but sometimes they are forced. I still say the worst one is the two and a half men as far as finales go.
Me too! ELR was always very slice of life; even for sitcoms. So I thought that the mundane situation amped up to 11 be the character reactions was 10/10
Same! I love that it was just a “normal” day in their lives.
I just disagree with this analysis so much. The episode was beautiful in how important and simplistic it was. Yeah, it wasn't a massive change, but not every finale has to be about changes. This finale showed us how much this family loves each other. The last scene showed us that they'll continue to be a family. They'll argue, fight, make up, eat, and when one of them is in trouble, they'll all be there for them. It was just a great window into a simple family that, for all their fighting and issues, is built on love.
Everybody Loves Raymond was, & remains, one of my favorite family situational comedies.
The oddball characters, the Barones and the McDougals in particular, the very realistic family dynamic, the obvious synergy & enjoyment of the cast, the writing, the production, the direction...you name it.
Frankly, as you mention, the finale has always come off to me as merely another episode, as if the story of this family continues after the final scene fadeout, moving into the next day as it had done for nine years before this point. I like this idea, and always have. Somewhere out there, this family of screwballs is still at it. This is a comforting thought.
I really like the final scene. The Barones, up to their usual idiocy, bickering, misunderstandings, family meals, and loving, if grudging, gestures. It emulates real life in this way, as there are rarely ribbons tied around real life family sagas. More often than not, life simply continues, with little in the way of bells and whistles. Life is eventful, certainly, but eventful like the growth of a plant or a child is eventful. You know it's happening, but you don't really notice the true breadth of it until hindsight is intentionally employed, or until it is pointed out to you by someone who isn't consistently in evidence. The event itself is minuscule in the moment, barely noticeable by those close to it.
The event is life, which is both extraordinary AND mundane.
I often picture them all, still at it, fifteen years later.
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U said that beautifully. I agree completely Not all shows need a fabulous finale, it felt right to me.
@@yelena86, I appreciate your kind words.
We're definitely of a mind on this score.
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The worst kind of finales are the ones where they end and you're just left thinking to yourself "...that's it?"
W finale makes you wanna keep watching the show to see where they go, but it’s not the middle of there story, a new beginning
Sopranos
Agreed, final episodes are supposed to be big and elaborate, but this one seems anticlimactic at best.
I had that with “the king of queens” I watched the finale and was like……really? 😂
What did you expect? Debra to kill Marie and go on the run with Robert?
Disney sometimes has series finales that you’d have no idea was actually the finale
That's so Raven
Vee really needs the "The Best Series Finale" series to help outset the worst series. Also, wait until Vee watches the Home Improvement series finale where they couldn't even get back all the boys for the series finale and ended with a boring "they're moving" trope.
Please never stop doing this series 😊
I would argue to say that the climax of the episode when Ray doesn’t wake up right away, and the family’s reaction, is the weighty moment that closes the show out perfectly. We see how much they all love each other AND Ray despite the years the audience has seen of everyone ragging in each other - especially Robert, who despite the envy and constant jealousy he feels towards his brother, he shows how much he truly loves him. hell the title of the show is really more about Robert than Ray himself)
We get a lot of really wonderful moments that wrap up this show brilliantly in my opinion. The final scene ends with them eating a table as a family. It’s simple. And I think purposeful and delightful.
I really loved the series finale
It really showed that his big brother loved his little bro all along .
Which was a beautiful way to end the show.
And Debra also showed that no matter the arguments they’ve had, Raymond was the love of her life and even Frank realizes that his son almost died and he’s lucky to have his family
honestly i really liked the series finale.
Me too. It kinda confirmed that everybody did indeed love Ray.
Same. It wasn't over the top or too dramatic. Most of show we saw the whole family at each other's throats. The last episode allowed us to see that in spite of all the craziness, they did love Raymond and each other.
Actually one of my favorite series finales.
The worst for me was still Malcolm in the middle, they've plotted out all of their kids lives, and Malcolm needs to suffer more to be some super president and after 5 fucking kids, Hall still can't figure out how to work a rubber!
or Lois is some how fertile despite the fact that she's in her mid 50s.
This was a show that was on throughout my childhood but I never sat down and watched a full episode, only little bits and pieces of it.
It was such a staple of "Shows I know exist" back then that I sometimes forget it ended ages ago.
There were those types of shows and then there was some really great shows from my childhood that actually had good endings like King of Queens for example.
It was on CBS so you assume it was made for christians/retards.
It fits the type of show that it was in the lineage of which are shows like Dick Van Dyke or The Honeymooners where the episodes are basically self-contained and its timeless. Its what Rosenthal was striving for and I think he succeeded in making a show that still in 2023 has not aged a bit.
You have to understand that the concept of "series finale" is relatively new to TV shows. Most shows in the 50s and 60s (and to some degree in the 70s) never had them. Didn't matter how many seasons they ran, they just ended when the last episode aired. Some audiences might have wanted closure of some kind but usually didn't get it. Animated shows are especially worse in that regard!
That began to change with the series finale of The Fugitive (1967). After four years, the show was going to end and the powers that be gave fans their due! The bad guy discovered and Dr. Kimble is finally free and no longer on the run with a happy ending ahead of him! The Monkees finale (1968) wasn't meant to be the show's last as they could have come back for a third season, but due to disagreements behind the scenes, NBC chose to just end things after the second season aired. MASH after 10 seasons HAD to go out with something satisfying since the show lasted 3 times as long as the Korean War did! Little House on the Prairie had a muddled ending involving TV movies and new cast when the old one wanted to move on and Michael Landon blew up the town. Do I have to get involved with the Roseanne finale? Or the despised finale of How I Met Your Mother? Talk about retcons!!
Personally, I WANT a series finale that makes sense for the show it represents. If it's a show about someone trying to achieve a dream of some kind (become famous, etc.) let's see if they get it. I do NOT want to see shows ending on a cliffhanger (as a tease hoping the network will renew). I would want season finales to tie up loose ends just in case. We like to know what would have been in store for certain characters we became so invested in.
I agree completely! 🙂
Something that has been happening for 40+ years isn't new.
@@Djblois1 I did say relatively new. If you look back at most TV shows of the past, there was no definitive ending. It's only been a little over 40 years that we started getting them.
@@MegaMagicdog So if -most- of TV history dates to the 50s, that gives us 73 years of TV. Series finales were absolutely a thing in the 80s, look no further than Growing Pains or Cheers, which is 30 years after the 50s, 40 years to today, so your math is bunk. Series finales maybe didn't always exist, but they've existed for longer than they didn't exist.
Dude, the finale is Ray realizing that the title is true, with the people that matter most… 🤮
Married with Children had a terrible finale too. Shame, that was my favourite show growing up.
They got robbed
This NEEDS TO BE NEXT!
It didn't have a finale. The show was axed unexpectedly, so no finale was ever filmed.
I mean if you describe the plot out loud that Raymond did not wake up after a surgery turned out it was nothing and everyone gets emotional I can kind of see on paper why it would feel like a good series finale
Yup. Plus it really wasn't supposed to be the end. Peter Boyle (frank) was too sick to continue and instead of replacing him, the cast came together to have the show pulled.
@@conradaster3764Peter Boyle said in an interview before his death that he thought the show could’ve kept going and he didn’t want it to end. But it’s also fair to say that he looked rough in that interview and he died just months after and had he died during production, that would’ve made for either an abrupt ending or a very emotional episode
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There was an episode of fraiser called "rooms with a view" where niles goes in for surgery and almost dies.
This feels like someone saw that, and said "let's do that, but worse".
my parents me and my brother found Raymond to be one of the few shows we all really enjoyed. so there was a couple years of my childhood where my dad ordered every box set one by one and we made sure to watch every single episode together as a family at our own easy pace
i have such a clear memory of us getting to the last episode and going "oh it's this one?" 'cause we'd seen it a couple times on tv run out of order and not one of us had even considered it to be the ending, we had all just vaguely filed it away as one that'd happened already and was whatever. Complete let down XD
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The good-bad-blend examples were spot on
Part of the problem was, this is a sitcom, and the only good moments were the super-short emotional, not funny moments. Namely, the scene in the hospital, and when Frank sticks up for Debra in the bedroom scene (slightly less bad than it sounds lol).
Those gave us a great, IDK, 60 seconds out of the episode?
Having watched the series several times, I believe the finale of *Everybody Loves Raymond* is brilliant. Spending nine seasons with these characters allows you to fully appreciate the impact of the final episode. After nine seasons of dysfunctional, dark, and twisted comedy, the 30-second hospital scene zooms out to reveal their underlying cohesiveness. The ending even evokes imagery reminiscent of the Last Supper.
I watched it years ago and have rewatched the series many many times over. Great to have a job that lets you have an earbud in at a desk at such a slow job. To me it was a good way to close a show that showed what life is like for them and how life goes on after. Maybe they could have done it differently, but I honestly can’t think of a better way to have closed it out.
_"Have you ever seen an episode not knowing it could be the final episode?"_ *Cries on Young Justice*
It's one of those shows I'd just have on in the background while it's streaming but this 9 season show ended while I was sitting a few feet away from the screen, doing something else, and I didn't even realize
I do think they had a good idea, dealing with near-death experiences and really start to think about what people mean to each other and to not take things for granted. I think some things could definitely have been done better and maybe they could have done it for a regular episode instead of the finale, but I don't think it was bad. Maybe low mid-tier in terms of Raymond episodes, but I do think they were at least onto something.
At first I thought maybe the series got cancelled which usually explains why the last episode was lackluster because it wasn’t intended as the series finale. A good example of that is Full House. But nope from what I read with Everybody Loves Raymond creator Phil Rosenthal knew this was the last season and did the season as he did because I guess they were running out of ideas for plots of episodes. 🤷🏻♂️
I thought they could’ve continued the series, especially with Ally growing up. Could’ve made for more funny overprotective dad episodes but I think at that point Frank & Marie would’ve become more side characters. Plus I’m sure the writers were burnt out. Not to mention that the cast was getting more expensive
I have seen that episode and up until hearing you talk about the plot, I had no idea it was the finale.
i don't necessarily think it's a bad episode per se, just a bad series finale; there's just not much here that seems to indicate this is a beloved series getting ready to say farewell to its fans after almost a decade on the air
Yup you're right. It ended super early because Frank was to sick to go on. That's why season 9 was so short. They had wanted about 20 more episodes where Amy's brother and parents would be more prominent, but the cast was unwilling to continue without Mr Boyle.
@@conradaster3764 yeah, it wouldn't be the same without the bunny petter
This finale has one of my least favorite finale tropes the “day in the life”
This same era NYPD Blue and ER had a similar kind of ending. Where it’s not a big finale but just “show our characters doing their usual thing and have no real send off to show their adventures will continue”
The send off was that no matter how much they argue, they all love each other and would do anything for one another.
Vee: You answered yourself. The point of the episode is to tease us into thinking something groundbreaking would happen, only for everything to remain normal. And it's not just about subverting what a finale should do. Last episodes (and especially last scenes) are supposed to represent what the series as a whole is about. "ELR" is the everyday life of a dysfunctional family. Sometimes, insignificancies snowball into serious issues, but most of the time, the conflicts they go through are quickly solved and they sit down to eat together as if nothing happened. Also, why are you saying that most people hated this episode? It got positive reviews and it was nominated for Outstanding Writing and Directing at the Emmys.
I get the whole Italian families are super close thing - cause I'm from one lol - but why on earth would the *entire* family be in the waiting room during a tonsillectomy??
If I remember the episode correctly, it’s because Ray’s mother, Marie, made them all be there, which, if you know this show, makes complete sense.
I can remember other series finales, even series that I ONLY watched the finale episode like Seinfeld. I still don't remember much about this finale, and I watched it off and on for most of its run. I had stopped watching Roseanne after they won the lottery, but still remember the finale.
Not this one. lol
Everybody love Raymond was always a curiosity to me but I never pulled the trigger on watching it. Same with friends
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I saw a repeat of the series finale for Angel not knowing it was the finale.
Funny, I actually do really like this finale, and I think it works with the overarching themes of the show. I don’t think an over the top ending would’ve fit with this show. It had a lot of similar, middle of the road, average family dynamic sensibilities as Roseanne the prior decade. That show went for a final SEASON that didn’t fit with the rest of the show AND a final episode that went for a huge twist that nobody liked. This episode reaffirmed the core family dynamic in a definitive way, and I think the mundane simplicity fits.
Unpopular opinion but when it comes to awful series finales, Everybody Loves Raymond doesn't even crack the top 5. Personally, the show's that had the worst series finales are:
1.How I met your mother
2. Living Single
3. Mom
4. Two and a half Men
5. Supernatural
This can't be the worst series finale when ALF exists -- especially since they didn't KNOW that ALF would end on that note.
I had the exact same reaction when I first realized that was it… it felt like such a waste of an episode while watching it and it see its the final episode really felt like a letdown. I do like the idea of it just being ‘another day’ and the story goes on, we’re just not seeing it.
I have seen that episode and thank you for letting me know that that was a series finale
Married with children never had a closing episode either. The network done them dirty
Sitcoms like many anime seem to drop the ball with the ending by rushing or losing focus
Was hoping that one day we'd get a video on this series
The worst series finale was Seinfeld.
Yup...pretty disappointing
The last episode of Numb3rs was a genuine surprise, I had no idea it was coming and cancelled and suddenly half the characters got promotions in other cities and their unit was disbanded. When it was over I looked it up and it saw it was over forever and it was really surprised.
This finale is so forgettable. I remember watching it high school and being really confused with how they ended it, because it didn't feel like an ending. It felt like a season finale, rather then a send off series finale.
ARE YOU KIDDING? You must be because ELR had one if the best finale of of all time. It ended perfectly because it stayed true to what it was. Raymond never did the typical overhyped things. The show started in the middle so it ended in the middle.there was no loose ends to tie up and it was great that it ended without destroying the foundation of the show. The family staying together and us leaving was beautiful. I doubt you actually ever watched the show and clearly not a fan or you'd see how perfect it was. I'm sorry but this video is idiotic and lacks knowledge of the subject it's covering.
The fact that we’re still talking about last Jedi kind of proves it’s not forgettable lol.
I always thought this show was a spin off of everybody hate chris
Baby alert.
That’s funny considering Everybody Hates Chris was just starting the same year this show ended.
Have you seen the final episode of Arthur? I've heard its the same idea that the simpsons have tossed around if they ended.
Nah, the finale for Simpsons was gonna be Homer and Marge going to their grandkids' Christmas assembly at their school.
Arthur's finale was completely different: it concludes with him showing the first graphic novel he wrote, and telling the story of how he first got his glasses.
@@mitchfletcher2386 yea. And it goes into the very first episode. The whole series loops. Matt groening said an idea for an ending he had is that the last episode ends going into the first episode in a big loop.
I think that is what they were going for, which is weird.
Courtesy of nick at nights (at least in the 2000s, to my remembering) out of order airing of the shows they syndicate. I saw the finale of fresh prince and everybody hates Chris without knowing until checking the shows out in full as an adult. They weren't in my opinion bad once given the rest of the shows established lore, context etc.
Yes. It was Saved by the Bell.
I had seen the episode a few times before I even knew it was the series finale.
I have a few for Vee Infuso to review. But not sure if he saw some of these series. So I can wait. 😇
After years of taking Ray for granted, especially from Debra, the family finally realizes what he means to them when they think they're about to lose him. Seriously, Debra treated Raymond like garbage. She needed a cold splash of reality like this one.
Yeah, I feel like more realistically she and Ray would have gotten divorced.
This show is actually quite nostalgic.
Reminds me of simpler times 🤗
I will say when Frank snaps at Ray for making fun of Debrah in the episode, it is very serious for a moment like in the waiting room. I love the series and I do think this is a good episode, but not a series finale episode. I do like that they don’t change the family dynamic for the finale, and that we can picture them together after the series, but that doesn’t make it a good finale
This might be controversial, but I remember as a kid thinking midway-through the King of the Hill series finale "The actual series finale is probably after this one." I think they were generally doing two new episodes at a time back then, and nothing struck me as being "series-finaleish" until the last 1 minute. When the last minute started, I remember thinking "wait what? no, that's it?"
Now I get what they were going for (Hank and Bobby find some common ground and bond over a shared hobby,) and I haven't rewatched it as an adult so maybe it holds up better.
I actually did enjoy the Everybody Loves Raymond finale though. Admittedly it wasn't my favorite show so much as at a convenient timeslot, so maybe I just wasn't invested enough to be disappointed. Still, I thought it was adequate.
You're wrong. You're just...wrong.
They were going to do 2 more seasons, but Pete Boyles' health began to fade. Thats why season 9 has less episodes. The ending was to be a future/flashback episode about Robert and his kids.
Just returned to this video to comment on another time I just remembered where I didn't know an episode was a series finale. The series finale of Even Stevens, where the family finds out they are moving and they all try to tie up loose ends but then find out they are not moving and try to undo the things they did to tie up loose ends. I saw that episode multiples times on Disney Channel when I was a kid and commented on the similarity to Max Keeble's Big Movie. It is actually one of the few episodes I remember well. But it wasn't until I looked it up on Disney+ that I realized it was the series finale. Of course there was a movie after that, which has an epilogue at the end. In a way the movie is the real finale.
You know another really bad Everybody Loves Raymond Episode is ALL OF THEM
It wasn't a great show but if he was saying things off script and being himself, it would of been more entertaining, he is funny In interviews,talk shows and ice age movies but not this show.
i remember this, i didnt like it either. Bad way to end
I agree with most of these videos you do, even the ones where I still liked it (like Gotham despite some points you mention) but this one I think you are off base with and they actually nailed the finale and you even go into why at around the 8 min mark. Its the end of the show but their lives continue, there is no need to wonder or worry. Family and friends carry on.
Two ways a sitcom should end, when the family moves away and other cast have their own new journeys showing us that their adventures is far bigger than the scope of the shows.
Or something major happens, Like a main character(s) finally get their life long goal, other characters hook up some are starting to have their first baby, and just some life changes but the series showing despite the changes life goes on.
Or a bonus a big final movie where the go on some thrill adventure that's a total shift from the usual show.
I don't think they knew how to end, but just wanted to end it. The episode was ok. It was just a bad finale episode. It wasn't as great as friends' finale or Seinfeld finale. But it was more meh finale. This is why I am somewhat conflicted with this sitcom show. You can tell they could've done better but rather not.
Nah this is perfect for a show like ELR. I hate when finales are over the top and stand out from everything else. This show isn’t the kind of show where it matters what episode you watch before or after the current episode. The theme of the finale has meaning and reiterates themes from the whole series without feeling out of place.
I saw this episode for the first time as a re-run, I had no idea it was the last episode.
The series finale of The King of Queens was terrible too.
If I had a nickel for every time, I caught the end of the show not knowing it was the end of the show I would have two nickels. That’s not much but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
Lmao i didnt realise that was the finale either
I never knew they actually loved Raymond.
Especially his wife.
It seems like every single episode she is pissed at him about something.
Maybe the series should’ve ended with them getting divorced.
Not every finale needs to be a finale.
The producers didn't want an all singing and dancing finale.they wanted to emphasise the ordinariness of the family and how they will continue on with their lives in the same ordinary vein. I personally didn't like it but it was intentional
The last episode of the Brady Bunch. I've seen it several times but never realized it was the last.
Vee Infuso: “Have you ever watched the finale to a show without knowing it was the finale of a show?”
Every single early 2000s kid in unison: Yes. Victorious.
The problem with these types of finales is they are trying to wrap up a show that doesn't really have a story. So the obvious answer is to have the finale be a thematic ending, but beyond the main character randomly dropping dead its hard to do that without the ending just seeming underwhelming or "just another episode". ELR especially had very little story connecting episodes or even any real story-arcs. So I'm not surprised they had trouble closing it out. I mean to even add insult to how unimportant this finale feels like this isn't even the last time we see the character of Ray. He later makes appearances on the sister show King of Queens which takes place in the same universe after the finale of the show.
With you talking about this could you do a video on king of queens that would be awesome
Several years ago I was tuned into Comedy Central during a Futurama marathon, I knew little of the show besides some very basic information and the episode I caught it on was the episode Fry proposes to Leela, the finale. The episode ends with Fry resetting the decades he just spent and you know how it ends, the next episode they played started with Fry in December 31st 1999, the first episode. Without knowing I went from the last episode to the first episode, I was so confused wondering why the animation looked older and the screen was 4:3, I quickly got interested in watching the whole thing until it was taken off Netflix being halfway into season 3 and having to watch pirated
I dont know, personally I feel like this finale feels on-brand, given the type of show it is, Bland and Predictable.
Teen Titans. Literally took me 15 years to learn that it was the finale. In all that time I’d just wondered why they never continued that storyline.
Ironically you wrote this to me as I’m scripting a teen titans video
Yeap Roseanne got me like that
If I remember right the creators said they ended it because they just flat-out ran out of ideas, and they thought they had took the Barones as far as they could go
Other shows whose episode I didn't realize was the series finale:
Married With Children
Family Matters
Hercules: The Legendary Journeys
Shows whose episode I knew was the series finale but felt kinda meh:
Futurama
Malcolm In The Middle
I enjoy this show but I never seen the ending
You sure get a lot of mileage out of that clip of Bruce watching Grey Ghost.
Honestly, the finale was great. Not everything has to change. It is definitely better than the Seinfeld finale.
i have watched that one long time ago , had no idea its the final ! on our tv channel they just put random series , so next day was another one ! :D
The finale could have been better.
Out of all the episodes in Everybody Loves Raymond, this has to be my least favorite because my brother had his tonsils and adenoids removed earlier this year and my father kept reminding of this episode because he was convinced that my brother wouldn't wake up afterwards like Ray ( even though he was FINE ) so not only is it a terrible finale but it also has the misfortune of reminding me of my personal family trauma
Edit: also it always upset me that Ray was ready to have sex and speaking normally after surgery because my brother spent the entire day vomiting
Nobody knew the Married with Children finale was gonna be the end
My favourite characters were Frank and Amy, i really loved her ditzy portrayal and she played it beautifully.
How would you feel about the series finales of:
- Jackie Chan Adventures
- Summertime Rendering
- Attack on Titan
- The Simpsons
- Overwatch
- Kim Possible
- Hannah Montana
- Drake and Josh
- DBZA
- VGHS
- Family Guy
- Bettter Call Saul
- Louis Rossman
- Tropical MBA
-UA-cam
- Death Note?
I've been watching this for years in the uk on channel 4 and had no idea this was the finale
I highly disagree.....it was a simple finale that as extravagant as the overrated friends