Allowable Defects in a CGC 9.8 | Before you Submit Comics to CGC, WATCH THIS!
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
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Bindery tears 1/16” or less 8:51
Spine Ticks?!?! 11:29
Slight Waviness 16:34
Miswrap 18:05
Spine rub from shipping 20:57
Slight color rub 22:35
Summary of allowable defects 25:00
Remember: A CGC 9.8 is a "nearly perfect collectible with negligible signs of manufacturing or handling defects."
This video is all about what defects CGC will allow and still award the grade of 9.8. It’s important to note that CGC has not published it’s grading criteria anywhere. Any information about this out there is strictly anecdotal from collectors that have hand on experience through often many PAINFUL submissions. So the information in this video is from my personal experience, because as you can see, I have A LOT of CGC 9.8 slabs, I’ve done A LOT of CGC submissions myself and I’ve bought a lot of 9.8’s over the years so I have a really good idea of what CGC will consistently allow in a 9.8. So the books that we’re going to look at are books that I’ve submitted with a prescreen, books I’ve submitted without a prescreen, books I’ve bought from other people, books from across many different submissions, books that were submitted a few months ago, and books that were submitted years ago. The reason I mention this, and the reason it’s important is that these aren’t just defects that passed in a single submission where CGC was having an off day. That still wouldn’t really make sense because 3 people evaluate the book before it gets its final grade. But nonetheless, these are from submissions over a span of years so that we know it is consistent, reliable data. In order for a defect to make it onto my list of an “allowable defect in a 9.8” I’m going to need to see at least 5 examples from books in at least 2 different submissions.
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Mate, this video was great! I've held off sending to CGC through fear they would be rejected. I'm in the UK so it's a lot of effort sending them. This is the best cgc video I've ever seen.
Probably my favorite UA-cam video right now about comics. Very insightful and helpful when we’re out there hunting for potential 9.8s. Awesome stuff!
Thank you!
Super helpful. I am thinking I likely have a few more 9.8s among my Bronze and Copper books than I thought just a few hours ago. 😎
Really appreciate you doing the heavy lifting on the murky world of grading.
This was excellent. I learned so much about grading in this 1 recording than in the last 10 years. I didn't completely understand how cgc determined a book is a 9.8 'til now. Thanks for putting this one out.
I was on cgc and doing a 9.8 pre-screen and saw this video, which I'm glad because I was so wrong about what was allowed. Much appreciated for making this clearer!!!!! Keep up the awesome work.
This is great stuff, as a new collector it's hard to know where to begin with cgc submissions. But this helps a ton! Happy New Year!
Happy new year!
This is a GREAT video and you explained everything really well. SO many people think that a 9.8 is flawless. Thank you for this video, I added this to my favorites list on my channel. Thumbs up :)
Thank you so much!
@@BrysComics Keep up the good work :)
Great video dude, lots of useful information for someone new to graded comics. Super interesting.
I think this is the most helpful video you published so far, nice job!
Glad it was helpful!
You took good time and care on the details, which is commendable. I used to submit sports cards to PSA, SGC, and BGS decades ago. You are correct on declaring the subjectivity of the process. It does come down to the persons grading the item. I have a few 70's issues I plan on submitting to CGC, but simply for keeping in my personal collection. I'm gladly subbing to your channel. Please do continue to focus on the truths of the industry...and the fun it does bring to you and us.
As someone will be submitting to cgc fir the first time this is very helpful in selecting the books I will send. Thanks!
Very informative, thank you for doing this. Now I need to go through my supposed "9.8s" again before I consider submitting anything.
This is the best video on this subject I've seen.
It's funny as these defects would kill a sports card grade
Yeah they’re way more strict huh? Probably because it’s one tiny card and not a whole book...makes sense
Thank you so much for making this video. You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for someone to break it down like this. Now I can confidently grade my books better. I always had a feeling I was over grading and now I’m certain of it. Thanks!!!
Well done bud. I know your info to be 100% accurate based off my own submissions. Your rub and tick portions were especially insightful.
You are the best my brother I appreciate all your wisdom and advice keep on helping the community like you do
This was the video I was looking for! I have some popular books that have binary tears and I thought it was a deal breaker, but turns out it's still possible to get a 9.8!
Found you on IG (Im DurtyDogs3, was in your cgc wheel spin) Love the content and one of my favorite content providers now! Keep up the good work!
Thanks man!
Best video I’ve watched breaking down allowable defects. I’m walking away feeling that many of the 9.8s shown could of easily been 9.6s. It’s all on the graders discretion
This was an amazingly helpful video. I havent collected comics since my teen years in the 90s (only purchasing trades now and then) and have started to get back into collecting, so this is a new world for me and really helps me understand what to look for. Thank you!
Thanks for the great information. Great video! I look forward to many to come. Have a good one!
Thanks man. Been collecting for quite a while, and this helps clear up my understanding of how some defects affect grading
Great rundown video. The subjective nature of grading is tough but you definitely help make it a little more scientific. Like many, I've had 9.8s that look like 10.0s in every way. Maybe someday I'll get a 9.9 or 10.
Great vid.
I learned a lot, I have a lot of keys I am gonna start submitting to cgc, and these eased my mind.
Thanks for the knowledge and the hard work to make this video.
Just make sure you use prescreen 👍
Best content anywhere brother!
One of the most informative videos out there on this. Thanks for sharing. extremely helpful for first timers like myself who will be sending in books to CGC soon.
Wow, your so knowledgeable about grading. Thank you for the information. Will looking thoroughly through my books before submitting my books
Thanks for all that info. Only done two submissions so still learning. Appreciate your insights.
Hey thank you this was the video I needed to see because this industry is getting crazy with the cgc style thank you for pointing out everything I need to know you're amazing
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I’ve got a ASM 300 with less color rub than that and it was cited as the reason for it being a 9.6 no ticks or anything. Absolutely perfect.
nice info about that bindery tears! iam glad thats an allowable defects!
Awesome video bro, I’m new to comics & grading wanted to submit some in to CGC this video answers all my questions 👍🏼
Very nice!!
Just found your channel and this video was awesome man. Like many have mentioned, I'm also looking to submit my first batch of comics to CGC for the first time and have been looking to as much research as possible before I do. This has been one of the most helpful in that process. Subscribed!
Thank you!!
Awesome video. I really appreciated the detailed explanations and presentation of each. I definitely will be subscribing!
Thank you!
This Video was Great! Very Informative. Loved the example videos. Awesome man! Thanks for doing this one.
AWESOME Books!!!
Ton of great information. Spine rub has stopped me from submitting several books. I have to rethink those
Great info to know when determining which comics I should be submitting for grading! Especially about the bindery tears. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
I still feel there’s some inconsistency with the grading. I’ve sent in books that get 9.2, 9.4 and 9.6 with what you’ve shown as 9.8s. Looking at the graders notes, there was hardly anything letting me know why this received the grades they got. So it’s really hard to understand what’s correct and what’s not.
Great stuff! Not a new collector but newer to the grading part so this helps immensely
Super helpful. Working on my grading skills myself as much as I can. The mid grade is what’s tough for me to see where things kind of fall for older books
This video is amazing! Great job on all the hard work you put into this!
I had wondered if color rub on the spine would completely ruin chances for a 9.8. Great video, thanks!
Great info and loved that you showed examples of the defects!
Actually there is a video cgc has, I believe on their site, on the grading process and how they arrive at the conclusion for the grading. The whole process is explained in great detail. I will try to provide a link.
Please do!
@@BrysComics He might mean this one: ua-cam.com/video/do4lDEzkULQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CGCComicsCGCComics
Amazing ....I've sold a lot that would prob have been 9.8...but this vid has saved me selling more. Awesome.
Informative, well articulated video! SOLID stuff. Thanks!
Thank you!
Super video. Real refreshing content. Subscribed.
Welcome aboard!
Great video, I loved how you took the time to explain the delicate details thank you.
Explains a lot of what I’ve seen! I’ve bought lower grades that look great but may be hard to see through the case.
Good stuff. More like this. I'm about to start submitting and this helps. A lot more is allowable for a 9.8 that I thought.
Glad it helped!
great info thanks again! going to be doing my first submission this month and this will help me loads
Another great video......on point with topic discussions so far!
Great content. Preparing to send my first big submission and I’m stressing. This video was a big help Bry.
Long awaited / Much requested -- no joke! really informative!
This video helped clear up a lot. Thank you
Great video the two defects that I personally don't consider ever achieving a 9.8 is multiple spine ticks/color break and color Rub I consider those a 9.6 or lower, if I'm paying a lot of money to get that 9.8 book I always buy from someone on eBay that allows returns as if I get a 9.8 book that I paid 200, $300 or more for and it has either those defects I'm returning the book I don't consider it personally a 9.8 on the flipside I've gotten a lot of 9.8 books that are virtually Flawless and should be higher grades so at the end of the day there's low 9.8 grades and high 9.8 grades it's all what you're comfortable with what you collect if you're a 9.8 collector. Another great note a lot of books that were graded pre-2008 9.4 and 9.6 we're graded very strict back in the day I actually purchased some I've seen in person at conventions and have cracked open resubmitted and got it back graded 9.8
This is a great video. I haven't been sending comic with binding tears because I thought they would be backed pretty hard tho last few years of comics they all seem to have them.
very nice insight on spine ticks! something that i did not know
Great information. I have a nice copy of Star Wars: Heir to the Empire #1 that I’ve always wanted to get slabbed but was worried about color rub down the spine. I might have to take a chance on it.
Awesome vid buddy thanks again 🤙🏽
Wow I learned alot. Thanks Bri fantastic video, saved it to my Comic Book playlist👍🤔😃🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much!
Very well done , learned a ton of applicable information . Thanks!
This was very detailed and will be a definite guide in the future.
Thanks for all the great info! Very helpful
Excellent video
Very well produced
As I learn more about what is allowable and/or not. I have come to realize that the final deciding factor if the HF(human factor). We can send in what we believe is a perfect book, but it will all depend on the individual grader. Good Luck.
Awesome Video, super helpful!
Super informative. Great video👍
Well put together, very informative video, thank you
Thank you. This was super informative and helped a lot!
Great info and hope you have a great new years
Thank you! Happy new year!
Been waiting for this one! Thanks for the info 👍 😀
Thank you for watching!
Great information thanks. You did a great job with this. My problem to is defining fine and very fine. Maybe you could a similar video on that? Thanks again.
Such a good video!! Helps out a lot in figuring out what to send to cgc. Question, does pressing a comic takeout the waviness?
Great overview and details.
Great video, great information.
This is all great information thank you for the contact you put out
Thank you for watching!
The only I guess do you think I've ever seen on any of my Comics is sometimes when they come in the mail they have those little white lines on the side that look like creases kind of and sometimes the very two tips on each end will be slightly bent
But I have rarely had that happen to me
Nice video bro. Good info to have.
Thanks for the informative video. How about non-sharp/blunted corners?
That can really hurt the grade depending on how bad. They measure it
Is the age of the book in relation to condition taken into consideration? Ie) 2020 with a spine tick = 9.8 vs 1960 with multiple spine ticks or other defects = 9.8
This was very helpful for finding key back issues on eBay. I always ask for plenty of pictures that cover the whole comic book. I don't just settle for auction photos already uploaded, per your advice from another video. I'd rather pay the 9.8 slab than get a raw copy and throw money away. But now, I know what to look for. I've always passed on copies with that spine color rub, but now I know that it is negligible. Although I've seen 9.6 slabs that I swear looked like a 9.8. Given it doesn't have interior issues, I wonder why the "judgement" of the book can differ so much with a 9.8 that can look like a 9.4.
Interesting video. The color rubs you showed at the end of the video are unacceptable at 9.8 in my opinion. I have 9.6's that befuddle me as to why they are not 9.8's and vice versa. Quite honestly, why people chase 9.8's and pay exorbitant prices for them is beyond me, because the difference between a 9.8 and 9.6 is so negligible that it borders on silliness, especially when considering the inherent subjectivity of grading.
I was wondering what book should i try to get first cause i got 6 grail books to get and they are X-Men#1,Hulk#181,AMS#129,TMNT#1,Cerebus#1 and Superman Batman#6 German Variant.
That’s a great list! Just gotta dive into the number s a dare what makes the most sense right now, like which one is the coldest
Great videos Bry. Got any siktc 1 left?
Great video, very informative and helpful.
When you’re determining market value for CGC graded comics and books. what in your opinion is the best source for that data? Thank you.
Depends on the book…if it’s a modern book with lots of sales definitely eBay recent sold listings, if it’s a more rare book I look at GPanalysis, cover price, and eBay to look at recent sales and then also check out current listed prices…this market is so hot many saw sources are behind in updating so you gotta look at the whole picture 👍
@@BrysComics Thanks very much!
It all comes down to the grader if he/she is having a good day. If they are pissed at life or sick or being sad your book us screwed if it has any minor defects that would usually get a 9.8 your getting a 9.6 or 9.4. It’s life
what about those small holes at bottom of pages - not sure where they come from (mayby newsstand?). Those holes mean no 9.0, correct?
If all of the books in the run have it they let it slide...only defects are deducted so if it was manufactured intentionally like that no deduction
Great video, keep em coming!
Thanks,that was really helpful.
Can a small discoloration at the edge of the bottom or top still be a 9.8?
Do you mean color rub? I guess it depends how big and what kind of. Discoloration
What about pen marks? Someone said to me that pen doesn't get marked down. But doesn't sound correct.
This was such a great video thank you
I have seen 9.8s that are not centered, have a lot of spin tics, have binding that is misaligned and yet I can find a 9.6 that has no evidence of this. At the end I'm gonna buy the 9.6, it's half the price and looks better
could you also check if removing the sticker from the free digital versions change the value of a comic?
Yup, I’ll try to get to the bottom of that!
I always peel mine halfway so I can get the code, but the sticker remains intact. According to Regie Collects, stickers like that would be noted on the label, but would not affect the grade. I'm still waiting for someone else to confirm if this is truly the case.
I feel better now about my spine rub books. I was noticing it a lot with DC comics that I’ve been reading from 2010 (yeah I’m a little behind in my reading) especially with card stock covers. Now I won’t feel so sad - it was starting to bother me even knowing that I would never submit these filler books for grading.
Great video, but still have a question: Would tiny scuffs at top and bottom of spine be considered bindery tear? Anybody here get a CGC 9.8 with this issue/defect?
Great analysis. Thanks homie
Great video and shows up clear on camera. Question, were these books sent for ccs pressing? My general sense was if sent for ccs pressing they would be more generous with flaws then if just sent in like that straight. Maybe thats not the case?
The graders wouldn’t know if it was pressed by ccs or not...but no none of these were pressed by ccs
Great video. I was wondering why my UF4 had a 9.8 when it had a color rub... So it's a negligible defect. I have wizard world young avengers #1 cgc 9.5 and that book is flawless like no handling or manufacturing defect, looks like a Gem Mint to me.