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As a scanning professional, this was a fantastic video. You know what you’re talking about and have decent experience. It’s also a bit of a shock since I’ve been watching this channel for years and remember when it was mostly about tuning software.
Tuning is still HPA's most popular subject, but there are almost 40 courses on several different subjects now. It's come a long way! Appreciate the comment and Connor will be stoked to hear that from someone like yourself 😎 - Taz.
Crazy eh! There have been 'cheap' options around for some time but they are now finally actually becoming good AND cheap 😂 The road block from here is working with the 3D meshes as the actual scanning is the easy part, but that's why HPA made the 3D scanning course which was driven by popular request - Taz. hpcdmy.co/6m1
I wasn’t sure about getting the Range2 at first, but then I saw Ingeniero Del Meme’s video. He scanned an entire car with it so easily, and the price was just right for me. So, I went for it, and now I’m using my Range2 to run my little workshop business!
Won't lie, I bought a CR-Scan Ferret SE because I got it on sale for only $150, and I'm very impressed with what it can do for so little money. The tech has definitely come a long way!
Einstar works great! 3D print some tracking tabs and it works. Glad to know you recommend it too. Used it for my open source mains pinning drill jig and it works great!
Thanks for the first honest scanner review of the Moose, my experience has been abhorrent and no quicker than using a vernier or other methods. You've confirmed what I already suspected from a SuperfastMatt review, the einstar seems to be worth the extra cash when time is money.
Yeah sorry for the bad news on that one. Still better than nothing but comparatively for what we are using scanners for Connor was 'go straight to bed with no dinner' disappointed in the Moose - Taz.
I'm waiting for the new Revopoint MetroX to be released in next couple of weeks (mid Dec). Early reviews show that it will be a game changer for the price.
The Shining 3D scanners are top tier. In under 4 years the days of paying someone to come do a days scanning with a £12k scanner are over and you can invest £1000 yourself to do as much scanning as you like. Thank's for the comprehensive rundown HPA!
It worth more to pay some extra money and get th Creality Raptor... If you want precision, laser scan and reflective dots are a must have. I scanned an entire BMW underbody to check chassis mount alignment. there are magnetic dots out there and they are fairly cheap... Incredible result... oh,up to 50 FPS and very good alignment tracking... Scanning 1-2-3 block I got 0.01mm tolerance... really worth the money
take a look at some Creality Raptor review, not Raptor X which is way more expensive. I own one and really recommend... best bang for the buck in my opinion.
@RPJuniorBR can't do the raptor. Out of my budget unfortunately but it does really seem like the best bang for you buck. Just want one for personal use so can't justify spending that much.
@RPJuniorBR can't do the raptor. Out of my budget unfortunately but it does really seem like the best bang for you buck. Just want one for personal use so can't justify spending that much.
Yeah it's tricky as there are so many opinions out there including our own which differs based on our own use case. Connor is just one man, but for what it's worth he had these units on hand back to back which is probably not something a lot of people on Reddit have the luxury of doing. The Raptor sadly falls well out of the price bracket for this test but it sounds like a solid option on the next tier up 🤘 Cheers for getting involved and what do you have yourself out of interest? - Taz.
The einstar was the one I was set on until they came out with their new one, the einstar Vega. This is attractive to me because I don't have to buy a laptop to go with it, I have a higher level desktop that can post process the scans. This also avoids all the wires of the previous einstar. If you ever get a chance to check it out I'd be very interested, if not I'll probably be buying it soon anyways. Cheers
A solid choice no doubt! We really wanted to keep the options $1,000 and under for this video just to show how usable they are these days. You might find a company selling 3D scanners has the content you're after on the VEGA though to help with your buying decision. Not having to buy a laptop certainly frees up some cash for you, we have a PC 'on wheels' in the workshop ourselves which is our middle ground. Ultimately the scanning itself is just one part of the process too and you can still do a lot with a little, but the better the scan the quicker and easier our purpose for doing it in the first place is on the other side as well. Hope you enjoy diving into things whatever you choose and if you need any help with the mesh side of things you know where to find it 🤘 - Taz. hpcdmy.co/6m1
but isn't the scanning performance better with a pc and the einstar? i'm wondering how much difference it make compared to the vega. i'm unsure which one to buy.
@@uighkgui not necessarily but I believe that's gonna be based on your PC. If you have a 6k PC then yes the processing of the scan will be faster but the performance during the scan will be limited to what the scanner itself can do. The Vega is a dedicated scanning tablet made specifically for scanning. Speculating this, I don't think you're gonna lose any scan performance between a laptop or PC on a cart with the einstar vs the einstar Vega. The advantage I see with the Vega is the fact that it is a dedicated scanning tablet essentially. No wires needed, take it anywhere and scan almost anything. Save the scan on the Vega and transfer it later onto a PC. For example this makes it very easy for me to take it to work, scan something on a car and process it later at home on my PC. Or go to someone's house, scan something and process it at home. No wires, laptop, extension cords required. Also with einstar cloud service you can transfer to your PC over the air as well. Possibly (not sure) from anywhere with wifi. This makes it very versatile IMO.
@@DiamondStarWerks ok, i asked because i saw a video of someone scanning with a xbox kinect sensor and told that scanning requires a lot of multicore cpu performance.. with scanning performance i mean the FPS during scanning, how fast you can move the scanner over an object to catch the data and not loosing track.
It would be cool to see scanners from the next price bracket up in a future video. I've been looking at getting the Revopoint Miraco it's not a lot extra for what they claim is a much better handheld device with a screen etc.
If you ever visit HPA labs here in Queenstown, don't be upset if our accountant gives you a bit of a death stare. The rest of us on the other hand, keen! 😂 - Taz.
I want to buy it to create ppf templates for vehicle interior trim parts. Since precision is important, is Otter a good option or should I buy einstar?
@digital0785 I cross shopped them, I would be interested in a direct comparison. In the world of scanners these are both budget tools and would be worth comparing.
@@digital0785 right, but how much worse? Is it good enough on its own, or is it worth getting an Einstar or otter for the performance bump? A lot of the comparisons at this stage are also on old software versions.
@@Beanpapac15 I have Raptor (non-x) and my friend bought Einstar and Otter respectively. Just haven’t had time to get together to cross evaluate. My Raptor by FAR outperforms on small stuff though…. But for car we want to get it all in the same room to check.
It's a 2023 MacBook Pro. Apple M2 Pro chip, 16 GB of RAM. I'm sure there are more budget options out there that will do the job too but this is Connors work laptop/computer too. There is also a dedicated Windows OS computer in the workshop for scanning and other workshop uses too which you will see in some content as well, but that is also because Connor isn't the only one that uses these tools or works in the workshop. We wouldn't bother with 2 systems for a single user just to be clear and it is fair to say that Windows is more widely supported. Hope that helps - Taz.
How do you know the current product is actually developed and manufactured by Creality? I think I saw someone on reddit saying that the Raptor and Otter are also OEM products-meaning they’re made by other manufacturers, and Creality is just a reseller.
Your grandparents could be hand making them for Creality in secret and this video would still be 100% the same. We don't really care about any branding, manufacturing or licensing deals behind the scenes, it has 0 practical impact on what we're doing here 😎 Hope that helps - Taz.
No, with so many options on the market and things moving so quickly in this area it would be a little silly to lock ourselves in with one brand and the benefit would be minor since we don't sell 3D scanners either. Believe us or not, we're not going to lose any sleep over it either way, but the goal of the content on this channel is always to be helpful first and foremost noting it doesn't make money to cover itself and we don't try. Courses are HPAs business, not UA-cam 🤘 - Taz.
I'll never buy another crealtiy product that isn't a 3d printer. The 3d printers are open source and you can pretty much put what ever part you want on them. I had one of their scanners and they just stopped support. The scanner was trash....so I pretty much had a paper weight. I have an einstar and like it for larger parts. It sucks for small stuff. I'll wait and see how the Vega looks after it's "break in period". I would really like a scanner that can scan small parts, and the Vega looks great at it
Sorry to hear about your struggles, usually you can just keep an old un-updated OS for tools like that where support has ended. Is that not even an option for you? - Taz.
Could it be that it was an older scanner from creality that you had? The older ones were actually just rebranded 3dmakerpro scanners that they put a new casing on. But now Creality are making their own scanners and software that performs much better. However, that is probably why support stopped, because they were not the original developers of the old software and hardware. I have seen some post about people using another software with the old scanners but I cant recall the name unfortunately, can probably be found on reddit thought, at least thats where I think i read it. Hope it helps!
@FurreFurre it was a lizard i believe. It was absolutely terrible, support was terrible, and it pretty much turned into a paper weight. I think they stopped supporting it very soon after the release or something like that. I love my einstar. I just wish it did smaller objects better. It seems like lately I'm scanning smaller objects much more frequently for some reason.
Just got the Otter a week ago, was on sale for 599€ which was a deal I could not pass on :D Haven't had that much time to use it yet, but it seems promising for workshop use and car modifications. Creality is releasing a wifi-handle for it sometime in the future which gets you rid of that cable to your computer, looking forward to hear some reviews on that when it comes available...
I have the Creality Otter and the Creality bridge. The scanning part of the process is really painless (dare Insay enjoyable?) but it takes a lonnnng time to transfer the project into a PC. It took about 25 minutes to transfer a 4.5k frame scan (quarter panel) onto my pc! I would recommend this for a DIY guy like myself but I couldn't recommend it to a business where time is money.
@hpa101 they dont have that accuracy mate. Stop advertising these things wrong. it is 20 micron volumetric accuracy on a 60mm part which is super small. at a proper sized part you are gonna see 0.1-0.2mm variations which is bad.
I was lucky enough to be able to Use the Creality Otter, and Laser scanner by Creality, the Raptor. As a 3d modeler of well over 20 years, My mind was blowen! Both the raptor and Otters software has been drastically upgrade since their launch months ago. They both have global marker systems now, so large scans over days/weeks/months are possible now. Adding detail via post scans is a piece of p#ss! Most of all, the Otter and Raptor scanners are wireless, with your smart phone as a screen. Pretty freaking trick NO? My money is on Creality to reduce the ridicules prices of the other competitor's. Very trick bits of KIT!
for the otter and range 2 did use the 1 click or did you go through the full process ? i find both the 1 clicks don't reproduce the best results. range isn't nearly as good with shiny things as the otter so a bit of spray would help :). imo using both otter and einstar the otter usually wins TBH I wonder when the video was actually filmed seeing as the otter is now mobile with the handle and works well.
I tried the one click and full process on multiple things and i'd say I had mixed results. Some scans the 1 click is fine others it;s not ideal. Range really seems to struggle with the 'troublesome surfaces". Scanning spray definitely helps, but I found the range needed it more often than not. It's also nice to have a scanner that picks up data with as little prep as possible - Connor
@@hpa101yea that was why got the otter. Does rather well with dark and shiny. But I have a miraco and will have a metro. Rest of my scanners I'm selling lol.
It's so sad most reviews and comparison on YT of 3D Scanners are mostly about (only) the hardware and using it overall but most aren't talking about the software point of view. This is critical and can make a scan to CAD job way more time consuming than something else. I assumed the Peel 3D software must be way (alot) better than those chinese copycat since they are basically well known in the market (Creaform) for a long time.
Peel has solid software. For a business or someone with a relatively large budget and the use case to justify it, their paid Peel.CAD is great also. He uses it in the course but also does show the same things in Fusion for a more entry level comparison. Outside of that Connor was pretty straight up on what he thought of the software for the options here for the scanning process 😎 - Taz.
@@raindeergames6104 Yeah, I'm getting the einstar, but first I have to get a new laptop to handle it. Out of interest what kind of size/type things are you scanning where the einstar is performing well for you?
@@drumbum7999 Mac silicon is supported, m1 and above. Software is on their site. I went to pc because of the previous NVIDIA requirement. I sold the pc and got an m4 Max MacBook Pro a couple days ago because they are not only supported, but people are reporting even better performance on the Macs. I’ll find out in a few days when I scan myself.
I'm the only idiot that build a monster workstation with a 7900xtx and then couldn't use the scanner. Luckily my old gaming laptop still rips so I'm using that and with the laptop it's portable so I run around and scan random crap😂
I know way to many people who just literally hate the Revo, way to many issues with both the scanner and the software. I have the Creality and I love it, although from what I hear Creality will be coming out with a new scanner late 2025
@hpa101 lol, believe me when I say I'm currently working on 10 different projects at the same time. One of those projects includes the full build of a VTOL vehicle
Not entirely. Connor has the almost $10k Peel 3 here yet uses the EINSTAR for larger scans. So you get what you pay for BUT it's important to understand even then different options have designs that lend themselves better to different tasks too. From there having something is better than nothing, and if the cheapest option is as high as your budget goes, it's still worth it, you will just spend more time instead of that cash to get the same results that other scanners will give off the cuff as a trade off - Taz.
I have a 3DMakerPro Lynx, I bought it last year on sale for early bird pricing. I really love it it has a great field of view. I work in the aftermarket wheel industry and I’ve scanned countless brakes from Audi S3 to a Supra racecar and it picks up with a TON of detail. I’ve even scanned my whole front bumper and engine bay and used the scans to design intake components and other parts. I think the moose is the wrong choice for this comparison. My Lynx can scan the calipers for most cars in one single frame only requiring extra passes to get other smaller detail. I think it picks up detail very well, it even picks up the stickers on the calipers. Just me 2 cents
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@@hpa101 the new Revopoint MetroX looks very promising for the pricepoint and feautures
As a scanning professional, this was a fantastic video. You know what you’re talking about and have decent experience. It’s also a bit of a shock since I’ve been watching this channel for years and remember when it was mostly about tuning software.
Tuning is still HPA's most popular subject, but there are almost 40 courses on several different subjects now. It's come a long way!
Appreciate the comment and Connor will be stoked to hear that from someone like yourself 😎 - Taz.
I was not aware these scanners were so affordable, i didn't consider getting one until now, but for these prices it seems like a great value
Crazy eh! There have been 'cheap' options around for some time but they are now finally actually becoming good AND cheap 😂
The road block from here is working with the 3D meshes as the actual scanning is the easy part, but that's why HPA made the 3D scanning course which was driven by popular request - Taz.
hpcdmy.co/6m1
I wasn’t sure about getting the Range2 at first, but then I saw Ingeniero Del Meme’s video. He scanned an entire car with it so easily, and the price was just right for me. So, I went for it, and now I’m using my Range2 to run my little workshop business!
Won't lie, I bought a CR-Scan Ferret SE because I got it on sale for only $150, and I'm very impressed with what it can do for so little money. The tech has definitely come a long way!
Einstar works great! 3D print some tracking tabs and it works. Glad to know you recommend it too. Used it for my open source mains pinning drill jig and it works great!
Thanks for the first honest scanner review of the Moose, my experience has been abhorrent and no quicker than using a vernier or other methods. You've confirmed what I already suspected from a SuperfastMatt review, the einstar seems to be worth the extra cash when time is money.
Yeah sorry for the bad news on that one. Still better than nothing but comparatively for what we are using scanners for Connor was 'go straight to bed with no dinner' disappointed in the Moose - Taz.
I'm waiting for the new Revopoint MetroX to be released in next couple of weeks (mid Dec). Early reviews show that it will be a game changer for the price.
Yes it will. Would be good to do an update to this video and replace the Range 2 with the Metro X for this comparison @hpa101
The Shining 3D scanners are top tier. In under 4 years the days of paying someone to come do a days scanning with a £12k scanner are over and you can invest £1000 yourself to do as much scanning as you like. Thank's for the comprehensive rundown HPA!
I did automotive engineering with aluminum crash structure prototyping, the OE tolerances are in mm's. So I think
i work in production quality for an OE and yea our tolerances start at 1-1.5mm
It worth more to pay some extra money and get th Creality Raptor... If you want precision, laser scan and reflective dots are a must have. I scanned an entire BMW underbody to check chassis mount alignment. there are magnetic dots out there and they are fairly cheap... Incredible result... oh,up to 50 FPS and very good alignment tracking... Scanning 1-2-3 block I got 0.01mm tolerance... really worth the money
I have the Shining 3d Einstar AND ITS LEGIT! I haven't had to use the lame dots or powder yet.
Glad to hear you're loving it! What's your current project? 😎 - Taz.
@@hpa101 Made some accessories for my RB26. Scanned the suspension, hubs, engine bay, block and head for future development.
Yes, needed this video so bad. I've been eyeing the einstar for a while now.
take a look at some Creality Raptor review, not Raptor X which is way more expensive. I own one and really recommend... best bang for the buck in my opinion.
@RPJuniorBR can't do the raptor. Out of my budget unfortunately but it does really seem like the best bang for you buck. Just want one for personal use so can't justify spending that much.
@RPJuniorBR can't do the raptor. Out of my budget unfortunately but it does really seem like the best bang for you buck. Just want one for personal use so can't justify spending that much.
Great video. Thanks!
The 3dscanning subreddit generally decided the Otter as being the best all-rounder you can get affordably. For high-res scans it's Creality Raptor.
Yeah it's tricky as there are so many opinions out there including our own which differs based on our own use case.
Connor is just one man, but for what it's worth he had these units on hand back to back which is probably not something a lot of people on Reddit have the luxury of doing.
The Raptor sadly falls well out of the price bracket for this test but it sounds like a solid option on the next tier up 🤘
Cheers for getting involved and what do you have yourself out of interest? - Taz.
The einstar was the one I was set on until they came out with their new one, the einstar Vega. This is attractive to me because I don't have to buy a laptop to go with it, I have a higher level desktop that can post process the scans. This also avoids all the wires of the previous einstar. If you ever get a chance to check it out I'd be very interested, if not I'll probably be buying it soon anyways. Cheers
A solid choice no doubt! We really wanted to keep the options $1,000 and under for this video just to show how usable they are these days.
You might find a company selling 3D scanners has the content you're after on the VEGA though to help with your buying decision. Not having to buy a laptop certainly frees up some cash for you, we have a PC 'on wheels' in the workshop ourselves which is our middle ground.
Ultimately the scanning itself is just one part of the process too and you can still do a lot with a little, but the better the scan the quicker and easier our purpose for doing it in the first place is on the other side as well. Hope you enjoy diving into things whatever you choose and if you need any help with the mesh side of things you know where to find it 🤘 - Taz.
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but isn't the scanning performance better with a pc and the einstar? i'm wondering how much difference it make compared to the vega. i'm unsure which one to buy.
@@uighkgui not necessarily but I believe that's gonna be based on your PC. If you have a 6k PC then yes the processing of the scan will be faster but the performance during the scan will be limited to what the scanner itself can do.
The Vega is a dedicated scanning tablet made specifically for scanning. Speculating this, I don't think you're gonna lose any scan performance between a laptop or PC on a cart with the einstar vs the einstar Vega.
The advantage I see with the Vega is the fact that it is a dedicated scanning tablet essentially. No wires needed, take it anywhere and scan almost anything. Save the scan on the Vega and transfer it later onto a PC.
For example this makes it very easy for me to take it to work, scan something on a car and process it later at home on my PC. Or go to someone's house, scan something and process it at home. No wires, laptop, extension cords required. Also with einstar cloud service you can transfer to your PC over the air as well. Possibly (not sure) from anywhere with wifi. This makes it very versatile IMO.
@@DiamondStarWerks ok, i asked because i saw a video of someone scanning with a xbox kinect sensor and told that scanning requires a lot of multicore cpu performance.. with scanning performance i mean the FPS during scanning, how fast you can move the scanner over an object to catch the data and not loosing track.
Thanks for the info 👍
It would be cool to see scanners from the next price bracket up in a future video. I've been looking at getting the Revopoint Miraco it's not a lot extra for what they claim is a much better handheld device with a screen etc.
If you ever visit HPA labs here in Queenstown, don't be upset if our accountant gives you a bit of a death stare.
The rest of us on the other hand, keen! 😂 - Taz.
I want to buy it to create ppf templates for vehicle interior trim parts. Since precision is important, is Otter a good option or should I buy einstar?
Does it automatically measure the area?
thanks! So the 0.02mm spec of the Otter has little real world relevance?
Not for our use case here compared to the other options 🤘 - Taz.
I'd be interested in a direct comparison between the Einstar and the Creality Raptor
not even close to aimed at eachother otter is the comparison to the einstar
@digital0785 I cross shopped them, I would be interested in a direct comparison. In the world of scanners these are both budget tools and would be worth comparing.
@@Beanpapac15 yea but the benefit of the raptor is the laser.. which needs markers to do anything. the IR on the raptor is worse then the otter
@@digital0785 right, but how much worse? Is it good enough on its own, or is it worth getting an Einstar or otter for the performance bump? A lot of the comparisons at this stage are also on old software versions.
@@Beanpapac15 I have Raptor (non-x) and my friend bought Einstar and Otter respectively. Just haven’t had time to get together to cross evaluate. My Raptor by FAR outperforms on small stuff though…. But for car we want to get it all in the same room to check.
What did you use to prep the block for scanning
We cleaned the block for the first round (FA20) and then Aesub scanning spray was used on the second (SR20) run - Taz.
What specs does the Mac got that you guys used for the einstar?
It's a 2023 MacBook Pro. Apple M2 Pro chip, 16 GB of RAM. I'm sure there are more budget options out there that will do the job too but this is Connors work laptop/computer too.
There is also a dedicated Windows OS computer in the workshop for scanning and other workshop uses too which you will see in some content as well, but that is also because Connor isn't the only one that uses these tools or works in the workshop. We wouldn't bother with 2 systems for a single user just to be clear and it is fair to say that Windows is more widely supported.
Hope that helps - Taz.
@ thanks a lot! I’m using a Mac as my go to but windows certainly have a lot of advantages when it comes to car related stuff like tuning.
Lynx would have been the more comparable option from 3Dmakerpro I really like my Lynx
How do you know the current product is actually developed and manufactured by Creality? I think I saw someone on reddit saying that the Raptor and Otter are also OEM products-meaning they’re made by other manufacturers, and Creality is just a reseller.
Your grandparents could be hand making them for Creality in secret and this video would still be 100% the same. We don't really care about any branding, manufacturing or licensing deals behind the scenes, it has 0 practical impact on what we're doing here 😎
Hope that helps - Taz.
does creality paid to u?
No, with so many options on the market and things moving so quickly in this area it would be a little silly to lock ourselves in with one brand and the benefit would be minor since we don't sell 3D scanners either.
Believe us or not, we're not going to lose any sleep over it either way, but the goal of the content on this channel is always to be helpful first and foremost noting it doesn't make money to cover itself and we don't try. Courses are HPAs business, not UA-cam 🤘 - Taz.
CONNOR...!!! 🤘
I'll never buy another crealtiy product that isn't a 3d printer. The 3d printers are open source and you can pretty much put what ever part you want on them. I had one of their scanners and they just stopped support. The scanner was trash....so I pretty much had a paper weight. I have an einstar and like it for larger parts. It sucks for small stuff. I'll wait and see how the Vega looks after it's "break in period". I would really like a scanner that can scan small parts, and the Vega looks great at it
Sorry to hear about your struggles, usually you can just keep an old un-updated OS for tools like that where support has ended. Is that not even an option for you? - Taz.
Could it be that it was an older scanner from creality that you had? The older ones were actually just rebranded 3dmakerpro scanners that they put a new casing on. But now Creality are making their own scanners and software that performs much better.
However, that is probably why support stopped, because they were not the original developers of the old software and hardware. I have seen some post about people using another software with the old scanners but I cant recall the name unfortunately, can probably be found on reddit thought, at least thats where I think i read it. Hope it helps!
@FurreFurre it was a lizard i believe. It was absolutely terrible, support was terrible, and it pretty much turned into a paper weight. I think they stopped supporting it very soon after the release or something like that. I love my einstar. I just wish it did smaller objects better. It seems like lately I'm scanning smaller objects much more frequently for some reason.
Just got the Otter a week ago, was on sale for 599€ which was a deal I could not pass on :D Haven't had that much time to use it yet, but it seems promising for workshop use and car modifications. Creality is releasing a wifi-handle for it sometime in the future which gets you rid of that cable to your computer, looking forward to hear some reviews on that when it comes available...
the handle is already out and i've been using it works well
@MrReivn awesome! Hope you enjoy diving into it all and opening up some new fabrication options with your new tool 😎 - Taz.
I have the Creality Otter and the Creality bridge. The scanning part of the process is really painless (dare Insay enjoyable?) but it takes a lonnnng time to transfer the project into a PC. It took about 25 minutes to transfer a 4.5k frame scan (quarter panel) onto my pc! I would recommend this for a DIY guy like myself but I couldn't recommend it to a business where time is money.
You don't specify what currency you're talking about, is it NZ dollars ? US dollars ? etc
🇺🇸 USD 🦅 - Taz.
@hpa101 they dont have that accuracy mate. Stop advertising these things wrong. it is 20 micron volumetric accuracy on a 60mm part which is super small. at a proper sized part you are gonna see 0.1-0.2mm variations which is bad.
We're sharing our own testing results using some of the options commonly used by those new to all this,, nothing more nothing less - Taz
I was lucky enough to be able to Use the Creality Otter, and Laser scanner by Creality, the Raptor.
As a 3d modeler of well over 20 years, My mind was blowen!
Both the raptor and Otters software has been drastically upgrade since their launch months ago.
They both have global marker systems now, so large scans over days/weeks/months are possible now.
Adding detail via post scans is a piece of p#ss!
Most of all, the Otter and Raptor scanners are wireless, with your smart phone as a screen.
Pretty freaking trick NO?
My money is on Creality to reduce the ridicules prices of the other competitor's.
Very trick bits of KIT!
for the otter and range 2 did use the 1 click or did you go through the full process ? i find both the 1 clicks don't reproduce the best results. range isn't nearly as good with shiny things as the otter so a bit of spray would help :). imo using both otter and einstar the otter usually wins TBH I wonder when the video was actually filmed seeing as the otter is now mobile with the handle and works well.
I tried the one click and full process on multiple things and i'd say I had mixed results. Some scans the 1 click is fine others it;s not ideal. Range really seems to struggle with the 'troublesome surfaces". Scanning spray definitely helps, but I found the range needed it more often than not. It's also nice to have a scanner that picks up data with as little prep as possible - Connor
@@hpa101yea that was why got the otter. Does rather well with dark and shiny. But I have a miraco and will have a metro. Rest of my scanners I'm selling lol.
Cash out while you can for sure, things are moving fast in this space =)
It's so sad most reviews and comparison on YT of 3D Scanners are mostly about (only) the hardware and using it overall but most aren't talking about the software point of view. This is critical and can make a scan to CAD job way more time consuming than something else.
I assumed the Peel 3D software must be way (alot) better than those chinese copycat since they are basically well known in the market (Creaform) for a long time.
Peel has solid software. For a business or someone with a relatively large budget and the use case to justify it, their paid Peel.CAD is great also.
He uses it in the course but also does show the same things in Fusion for a more entry level comparison.
Outside of that Connor was pretty straight up on what he thought of the software for the options here for the scanning process 😎 - Taz.
I have a Einstar and it is proper. PLEASE BE AWARE.... It ONLY WORKS with Nvidia graphics cards.
@@raindeergames6104 Yeah, I'm getting the einstar, but first I have to get a new laptop to handle it. Out of interest what kind of size/type things are you scanning where the einstar is performing well for you?
thanks for the info. i was going to buy one but im running mac so that option is off the table.
@@drumbum7999 Mac silicon is supported, m1 and above. Software is on their site. I went to pc because of the previous NVIDIA requirement. I sold the pc and got an m4 Max MacBook Pro a couple days ago because they are not only supported, but people are reporting even better performance on the Macs. I’ll find out in a few days when I scan myself.
Mac m1 and above is supported 🤘
I'm the only idiot that build a monster workstation with a 7900xtx and then couldn't use the scanner. Luckily my old gaming laptop still rips so I'm using that and with the laptop it's portable so I run around and scan random crap😂
to EVERYONE: the moose is the shittiest scanner id ever imagine to use. DONT BUY IT.
It's a shame as it has a great name 😂 But that is all that was great about it for us and our use case too as Connor mentioned - Taz.
I know way to many people who just literally hate the Revo, way to many issues with both the scanner and the software. I have the Creality and I love it, although from what I hear Creality will be coming out with a new scanner late 2025
Lot of time you could be scanning and working on projects building your skills between now and late 2025 though 😎 - Taz
@hpa101 lol, believe me when I say I'm currently working on 10 different projects at the same time. One of those projects includes the full build of a VTOL vehicle
I really hope Shining3D comes up with an answer to the MetroX.
In summary, don't be cheap and you get what you pay for.
Not entirely. Connor has the almost $10k Peel 3 here yet uses the EINSTAR for larger scans.
So you get what you pay for BUT it's important to understand even then different options have designs that lend themselves better to different tasks too.
From there having something is better than nothing, and if the cheapest option is as high as your budget goes, it's still worth it, you will just spend more time instead of that cash to get the same results that other scanners will give off the cuff as a trade off - Taz.
I have a 3DMakerPro Lynx, I bought it last year on sale for early bird pricing. I really love it it has a great field of view. I work in the aftermarket wheel industry and I’ve scanned countless brakes from Audi S3 to a Supra racecar and it picks up with a TON of detail. I’ve even scanned my whole front bumper and engine bay and used the scans to design intake components and other parts. I think the moose is the wrong choice for this comparison. My Lynx can scan the calipers for most cars in one single frame only requiring extra passes to get other smaller detail. I think it picks up detail very well, it even picks up the stickers on the calipers. Just me 2 cents