SIDE NOTE IDK HOW BUT I FORGOT BRIG SO HERE IS THE ROUGH DRAFT OF NOTES I HAD FOR HER MY BAD YALL Brig: Season 4 after ult rework (season 4 is her strongest state) Brigette is infamous for her strength in overwatch 1 however going into overwatch 2 brig received a few nerfs to her bash and her inspire. Even though she wasn't terrible she wasn't receiving too much play causing the devs to on jan 5 and feb 7th to buffs her shield hp and repair packs and reducing her ult cause however her peak in strength was in season 4 when her ult received a rework which really was just a buff with the only nerf being a repair pack range nerf this made brig effectively a tank with her giant shield with more hp than a sigma shield. Brig received nerfs to her shield and rally on august 10th marking this as her peak form even though currently brig is super strong in the current meta. Thank you for Watching this video took an insane amount of time to make everything down to the researching, to the writing, to the recording, to the editing, to even making the thumbnail taking over 2 hours (not a joke). Making videos takes a while but this one tops all the ones of ive made so if you liked please subscribe and let me know what you think is the most broken character out of them all at there peak.
I'd argue that lifeweaver is currently in his best state. His heal now automatically charges which allows him to deal damage when healing:s not necessary, and holding a fully charged heal doesn't slow him down anymore. His pull admittedly is more useful to redirect your tank to the other tank targeting both supports, but it does heal and provide immortality for it's duration. The healing dash is useful, both for escape and general mobility, and honestly petal platform is slept on. His ult is honestly best used for blocking an enemy and holding a point with your team. Unlike zen's ult, it just doesn't heal enough for better uses, and probably won't save a dying teammate.
I could see that I think even tho they nerfed his dash his survivability I think was buffed overall I think that’s a fair argument lifeweaver has never really be amazing so saying he was the best than or now still makes him like bottom 2 supports in the game lmfao
LW works by helping to mitigate mistakes your teammates make. He is inherently defensive support. But that also means his offensive carry potential is non-existent. You have to rely on teammates, and that is a recipe for....... mediocrity
@@mercyI_I ye genjis been consistently one of the bottom dps since 2018 and every time hes been actually good since then has lasted only like 2 weeks before he gets completely gutted lol, and then theyll ignore what was actually broken like soyjourn was back the last time this happened
@@joeschipper6465 yeah I don’t realize by looking through his history more it’s kind of surprising the weird cycle they have with him the soj thing is also pretty funny but at least they are pushing her into a better place at least imo
Pretty much all of these were bang on, but for echo i would say her strongest state was pre season 9 and after her ult got changed so that it builds 25% faster at the cost of less ult charge during her ult
Yeah I think that’s fine I feel like she was honestly just as strong than she in season 11 especially with the dps passive I could see it I only put season 11 because pick rate wise she was more popular than but that’s not necessarily her being weaker just a different meta
12:01 imo Cass was easily his strongest in S4. He had 225 when every other squishy had 200 which mattered is a higher percentage increase compared to now, still had 131 damage nade, and had much better fall off range. He was pretty inarguably the best hitscan that season and all the pro teams pretty much only played Cass whenver they played a hs (besides the sniper heavy maps like circuit)
love how we understand that the only time mercy was "broken" she wasn't actually broken blizzard just added a character that shouldn't have a oneshot into the game
@@ghostlyashley6195 true tho I think it’s hard to explain looking at raw stats but I think people were realizing that a mercy pocket dps even besides soj was super good but I think she was nerfed way to much and imo she is the worst support in the game right now
@@mercyI_I not really cause the mercy mobility nerfs (unnecessary) didn't do much to her, what drove her off the meta was sojourn getting her oneshot (with dmg buff included) removed and the only other 2 heroes that made her good (cass and ashe) being nerfed as well
@@mercyI_I imo it would be nice if they gave her healing power from ow 1 back (as well as revert the mobility bullshit they did to her) and completely nerf or remove dmg boost since it keeps her in this state of only ever beeing good if there's a good character she can stand behind and stand still for 80% of the game bluebeaming, beam juggling was so much more fun, rewarding and healthy for the game and allowed her to shine for herself if you were good at her much like other healers
@@artmanrom phara was still very much still a problem where she always has been, low to mid elo even after pharmercy glory days until she got reworked, because again, her problems were only amplified by mercy, but were there on their own
7:59 Sigma “has never really been crazy broken or anything” I am not sure if this is JUST referring to Overwatch 2 but Overwatch 1 Release Sigma is one if the most broken states of a hero ever. Great video though!!! 🎉
Sigma never git nerfed until OW2 just to get those nerfs reverted then buffed with tank passives, then have his ult buff reverted. So his strongest state is OW2 regardless. What made him good in OW was Orisa bap and Brig with brig being the most broken character to ever exist. While bap had his immortality in its strongest state even though it got nerfed and easier to kill later the rest of his kit got giga buffed in OW2. So pretty much all characters best states are in OW2 except for Mercy and Brig.
@@202adrliterally what are you talking about. Sigma was easily most broken when on release when he had a 1500 hp shield with no retraction cool down, a one shot combo on 250hp characters, and a kinetic grasp that could block more things than a dva. Not to mention his ult was uninterruptible and you could kill 3 people even after death. Just don’t make sht up lil bro
@@arbre_mystique his 500 hp on shields is now in his health, The sheild retraction is the only nerf, the ult was always interruptible you could always hog hook or ana sleep it unless the sig played well and ulted behind shield while also getting los to use it. And even if it wasnt. There was a patch in Overwatch 2 while he got his oneshot combo back which is now for 300hp targets he could get you in the ult without LOS as long as your in the range of it. That is way more broken cause he can avoid you and not even have to worry about interrupts at all.
Lifeweaver has the potential to turn the game around, the problem is: the players can't identify the scenarios where this is possible, as happens with Ana, Kiriko and Baptiste for example, he is definitely not even close to one of the worst supports in the game, when he is not in the right scenario, he makes no difference at all, but he also doesn't hinder the team, but when he is in the right scenario he can make a big difference
@@hellojimbi5822 I said why in the comment, and before he was much worse, the recent buffs were incredible, he is not a meta character because his performance in the match is unpredictable, Ana's is not, Kiriko's even less, but he is also not a horrible character as people say, I think the best comparison is with Mercy, her resurrection is unpredictable, the player cannot know if it will be useful, but if it is, it can change the course of the fight.
@@fe-main yes, unpredictability makes a character bad. If they can only do a game changing play once in a while by luck and other characters can do it naturally that means the character isn't good. You don't want a loose cannon on your team
@@hellojimbi5822 you're forgetting that there's a middle ground between "bad" and "broken", lifeweaver and mercy are balanced, ana and kiriko are broken, their abilities are totally broken, and i believe baptiste can fall into that category too, and what I meant by "unpredictable" is not about luck.
@@fe-main Yeah, the middle-ground is Lucio, Brig, Juno, Zen, maybe even Moira who all have a niche in their respective comps but can't just be used as a generic value hero. Heroes with only defensive abilities are just bad, the game is about speed and offense and Lifeweaver brings none of that. He is only "balanced" if you consider doing nothing the mid-point between being a detriment to your team and being a benefit.
Technical best state for Illari was release when she was disabled in comp and her ult going through shields. But when she got into they nerfed that, but here is the thing Illari had a size in her hits can, and she can consistently two tap squishies because of her hits can. Pylon has always been really broken ability just putting it in some of the most bs places and the range on it is so crazy still.
I honestly think Lifeweaver is the strongest he's been in a good while right now. The recent petal changes are really nice and offer a ton of utility to the whole team. His healing is good and his damage is getting slightly better. He's still bad compared to other supports but I think he's showing actual potential to maybe become good someday.
Small correction on genji is that neither him nor tracer actually got a move speed bonus from the old dps passive since they both already had a higher base move speed
@@jakelastra9488 bro what? They changed the passive for launch everyone got bonus move speed + reload speed for a few seconds, they changed the extra move speed thing genji and tracer have back to just them since the first beta of ow2
@@jakelastra9488 ye ik but in the first beta they gave it to all dps until it was removed and replaced with the new passive at launch, which stacked on top of thr bonus move speed genji and tracer already had
Wouldn’t dva’s peak be after the Juno buffs but before mid season, because idk if anyone actually played overmatch in high elo here but holy fuck she was so op
@@grumpygoo7951 this was written right after season 12 came out when she was bad as I’ve been working on we’ve gotten like 3 patches which buffed her three times which is why I have her updated version than but dva’s isnt but yeah that combo was insane that shit was like super sonic until they nerfed it in the mid season patch
Honestly I would have considered OW 2 release lucio to be the strongest version because he was just so unkillable with heal aura + support passive. Then the eventual self healing reduction got nerfed to be even stronger and made amp healing almost useless.
This has me thinking: with the exception of Brig, Mercy, and maybe a couple others, all of the most broken states of these characters have been in Overwatch 2. No other character has ever been this strong in Overwatch 1
Yeah I think it’s really impossible to compare tanks because they are competing in a different environment but I feel like yeah with the hp changes and everything the power creep in the game right now is wild
widow is an interesting one I am a widow main and would argue shes been about the same the entire time obviously fluctuating based if dive is more meta or not but imo the most fun was day one of season 9 when widow had massive projectiles I mean you basically couldn't miss a headshot and you felt like a superhero it was patched basically immeadiately though, and also i feel like to comment on what you said about her being the sole reason of map pool removal isnt true i hope it was clear to the devs wether widow exists or not that map pools are boring and make playing the game a lot feel bad
@@Lambo-ux3uh I agree looking back on the video I lost tracking of where I was in the script cause my phone died when recording so I just kind of free balled it but map pools were not a fundamental part of the game and I think a lot of people are glad there gone and that super brief part in season 9 the only reason I didn’t put her there was cause of the meta but I understand your reasoning
When Hanzo still had his one shot they boosted every projectile hitbox which made Hanzo shoot one shotting logs. That for me was the most op. I don’t remember if that was the season you said in the video or not, so I’m just gonna add that there.
I remember a time in overwatch 1 where the best dps would almost always be a genji, hanzo, or junkrat - and I find junkrat do fun and do a lot of dmg still so will always be my main ❤
I want to point out as well that sigma recieved some stealth nerfs at the start of this season. He can no longer ult immediately after rocking, and same thing with the orbs. He feels clunky, (similar to ashe who feels clunky too)
I’ve never heard of that glitch but either way I’m not counting glitches or anything otherwise infinite ult bastion would be the best or infinite bury venture both glitches
I feel like that Brig was most broken when her whipshot was buffed and could kill squishies with 2 melee, bash, whip. This was reverted quite fast. Also for Mercy, her strongest peak was when she could heal 25% more when targets were below 50%. Making them unkillable.
Mauga on release, aith infinite ammo, more ammo on his machine guns, more health regen, faster cooldowns, more health and more damage and bleed through was just absolutely fucken terrible to play against. He was pretty much unkillable, ESPECIALLY if he had a pocket healer.
Do yall remember ball season 3 when he got buffed to get shields, had adaptive shields almost always up and mine + piledrive was impossible to dodge because of how fast mines armed
there was also a point of time where illari had a bug which gave her infinite ammo as a result of a buff to her healing during reload (it was insane but i dont think it was allowed in comp 🤦♂)
I’m not really counting bugs like that because I could also say bastions strongest state was when he could use he’s out infinitely but yeah that sigma shit was pretty wack
@@yazan_q u right actually tho that bug was before he got his one shot back thinking about it now maybe it could’ve but also the universal buffs like the headshot reduction still push him over for me tho it honestly might be even cause we’ve all seen the flats clip of him figuring it out but I feel like well it was good it was still somewhat niche I feel like
If your looking at overbuffed than that data isn’t always accurate but either way there’s no denying that junkrat has really only been nerfed and o think after the last soj buff she’s pretty good tbh
@@mercyI_IJunkrat really isnt bad right now though. Hes actually pretty solid in his current state. The problem is lower ranks are falling into his spam playstyle, but flankrat is where he is best rn. And the devs have said not too long ago that while Overbuff isnt exactly perfect, its fairly close to their internal stats outside of gm+ where there is very limited data.
Lifeweaver best state was Pre Mauga sooo season 7 I think? Before mid season 8 so from the time period he got those buffs till the season 9 changes Lifeweaver has been the most misunderstood hero in the game. During this time period on overbuff youd notice increase in "AggroWeavers" and people who could actually play Lifeweaver making it to the top spots on overbuff. I myself made it to GM for the first time with Lifeweaver (As well as Baptiste for specific situations). Lifeweaver 1 is a duelist, he always had "Just enough" ammo and damage to get the Job done (pre season 9 changes). He's not just this "Reactive" "always needs his team" "can't carry" hero. The "AggroLifegrip" back when he had 16 seconds was also a skill I picked up. Now I can go over the defensive stuff you probably already know but I wanna focus on who Lifeweaver thinks he is and what he actually is. Now that Lifeweavers back at full power after multiple multiple bad metas, I went from falling alll the way from GM to plat currently back to masters again and all it took was him being able to catch back up to the season 9 changes and pre charge his heals thats helped to. A lot of people also play Lifeweaver into really bad match ups and situations because he's just this "Haha funny hero" when you see Mauga get the hell off Weaver, when you see Echo get the hell off Lifeweaver, when you see Pharah get the hell off Weaver. When you see an Orisa you should be eating that B alive When you see Torb if we have a weaver and that torb turret stays up for any reason someones getting reported for throwing. Don't play him on Antarctica Peninsula ever, you SHOULD play him on Dorado and Numbani attack and hell even hollywood. When Lifeweavers "Bad" I've noticed he falls into this healbot category everyone imagines he already is when you HAVE to play Weaver like that yes that's when he's "Bad" No one knows how important Weaver’s gun is so most don't know when his "Good" states actually are or if he's even had any to begin with he's always just been like this "Meme" hero to them. He's a breakpoint hero, he always walks on a thread when it comes to winning and losing soooo when I run out of Ammo or don't do enough damage ya know If I don't win my 1v1s or apply enough poke damage etc etc. That is the difference between winning and losing, between him being good and "Bad" The further you can push the gun and get actual results even if it's just mid max value determines what Lifeweavers best state is.
Doom still feels like a throw pick when half the other team swaps to counter and instead of also swapping most dooms would rather complain about it in chat
I've been so out of loop with overwatch(last played ow1 back in 2018) so ow2 was a HUGE change and made me an idiot with all the reworks and new heroes. still relearning the game and your videos help me get back into speed. glad i kept my limited skins from owning ow1 😅
@@mercyI_I I'm a support main, and have been with my mainstay mercy through her ups and downs (i still miss her team revive lol) but have been using juno and kiriko more as of late. sometimes brig when situations change.
as a jr player, I honestly think he’s strongest right now, he got so many 1 shots back and can be an absolute terror at times with still impressive tank killing abilities
I hope blizzard found this video and finally realize how bad Lifeweaver is , he never be meta or even have broken state he always F tier or the best he can do is mid and that's not enough.
@@phoenix_kaori2478 yeah this is facts but the problem is that with lifeweavers design he pretty much has to stay ass or otherwise he is a toxic character that requires no aim because he’s healing outlocks I love lw so much but man it feels bad
Enjoyable video, some feedback for future videos though, I felt like the music was both too busy, and it was too loud in the mix compared to your voice, was little distracting and annoying
You forgot at the beginning of season 3 ball got his health changed to shield and got his mines buffed. That was a period when ball dominated. Also in season 2 Ramattra has infinite ult and was over powered, but completely overshadowed by hog. Even devs were surprised that people didn’t complain about him.
i think dva's strongest state would have been season 12 due to the bug before the mid season patch were paired with juno she could cross the map in seconds
that zarya meta was probably the most miserable season for me in ow2. I hated that zarya meta even more than the orisa metas because at least its easier to dive orisas backline rather than zarya bubbling her supports and zarya with high charge is more lethal than orisa.
you right hog like mauga is a terrible design that will never really work but i meant that hog being able to one shot in 5v5 without another tank to help is much more impactful than in 6v6
I imagine the low pickrate for Echo is because she takes like 150 matches finished just to unlock her, i myself just started this week and am slowly but surely working on getting her since she seems really fun in the practice modes
I think with power creep with the state it’s at I think most likely the best character would probably be similar to the first meta with dva, tracer, soj, Lucio, kiri with really the only difference being dva instead of Winston. It would still be pretty fun to see
@@Gamingbear832 I’m not counting glitches because otherwise characters like venture who had that glitch where they could bury forever or bastions infinite ult and stuff
Personally I think the 29 to 27 nerf is much much worse than the speed buff the damage threshhold of one less shuriken has permanently made it so genji can't one shot unless it's a full triple headshot dash shebang whereas before he could hit 6 stars and melee for the kill This meant that he could shoot twice and melee and there are pleeeenty of situations where genji could burst you down for basically free - Right click melee is a risk free kill option, because he can dash out on failure - he can dash in without any regard because he can always just right click twice and get out - NANO GENJI is basically blade because all he needs to hit is dash and right click Overall, genji having a 2 shot threshold instead of a 3 shot gave him way too much freedom in how he could approach it was just too good... and legit... i miss those days
ngl you should do the weakest state of all heroes in ow2, that'd be pretty interesting! And ima give you a spoiler, since i main him, ram's was during s9. His vortex dmg was insignificant, only 45 compared to the 70 total dmg buff he got in s10. Nemesis form was just a bocking simulator more than ever, taking 5 punches for killing a regular dps was just embarassing. Annihilation doing only 30dmg per sec, thing that you dont even notice thanks to all the hp increases, from how low it is, nowdays too since it didnt got buffed. (B- ult since u only use it for refreshing ur armor and thats it, cant do anything else but that). In s9 zen was also meta, which is an incredibly HUGE counter to ram bc of his discord and ram having no ways to protect himself from it, specially during nemesis form. Also lets not forget the proj. sizes increased by a TON so making ram the easiest target to hit in the entire game. Abt my other main, kiriko, was during s12. The recovery time increased from 0.5 to 0.55 seconds felt incredibly bad for how slow it was and the 8sec tp nerf she got in s11 made her way weaker than ever thanks to her hp going down to 225. So it was pretty rare for a kiriko to be actually useful back then. No wonder i only seen her when the enemies had an ana, never seen her in other situations.
As a ball player, ball is at his weakest right now. The sombra reworks just keep making ball less viable. In start of ow2, she was annoying but not a threat herself, then after the patch where they added virus, all they did is make sombra an actual threat to ball. With the latest rework sombra can easily kill ball on her own, not to mention I think sombra countering ball is the biggest counter in the whole game. It was possible to beat a counterpick as ball, yk sigma, hog, doom, mauga, sombra, junkrat, ana, lucio. But if the enemy team has a sombra, now you just don't stand a chance. I'm just too stubborn to stop playing ball though Also the invisible nerf to sombra doesn't affect ball
SIDE NOTE IDK HOW BUT I FORGOT BRIG SO HERE IS THE ROUGH DRAFT OF NOTES I HAD FOR HER MY BAD YALL
Brig: Season 4 after ult rework (season 4 is her strongest state)
Brigette is infamous for her strength in overwatch 1 however going into overwatch 2 brig received a few nerfs to her bash and her inspire. Even though she wasn't terrible she wasn't receiving too much play causing the devs to on jan 5 and feb 7th to buffs her shield hp and repair packs and reducing her ult cause however her peak in strength was in season 4 when her ult received a rework which really was just a buff with the only nerf being a repair pack range nerf this made brig effectively a tank with her giant shield with more hp than a sigma shield. Brig received nerfs to her shield and rally on august 10th marking this as her peak form even though currently brig is super strong in the current meta.
Thank you for Watching this video took an insane amount of time to make everything down to the researching, to the writing, to the recording, to the editing, to even making the thumbnail taking over 2 hours (not a joke). Making videos takes a while but this one tops all the ones of ive made so if you liked please subscribe and let me know what you think is the most broken character out of them all at there peak.
My main ;-;
@@Diam0nder my bad bro lol
your gameplay… great video tho(hit a shot)
that supertf jq clip will always be crazy, imagine your enemy jq fucking up their ult but they have it again in less than 15 seconds 😭
Ik I feel like clip alone shows just how busted she was back than
How it feels seeing echo be able to do that in todays meta if she copies queen 😭
You forgot to mention INFINITE AMMO CAGE FIGHT
you right that shit was so broken it was wild i feel like people didnt realize how good it was till it was gone
if u shoot it last the whole cage fight still but it was kinda broken cuz u didn't have to reload after
I forgot that was even a thing
I honestly didn't know they got rid of that
Nah that shit was mad
This gameplay is horrendous 😭
Lmao my bad bro a lot of these were filmed at like 2 am I was literally just like shooting and watching a movie lol
@mercyI_I makes the gameplay better. I'm just watching a dude play the game chill and not try hard
Its not that bad, quit being so judgemental
9:09 this ball gameplay is actually physically hurting me oh my god
@@oopsalldeoxys5060 my bad bro all these gameplays where recorded at like 2 am but I also have actually no idea how to play that hamster lmao
@@mercyI_I it's ok he's a hard character it's just really funny to me
I'd argue that lifeweaver is currently in his best state. His heal now automatically charges which allows him to deal damage when healing:s not necessary, and holding a fully charged heal doesn't slow him down anymore.
His pull admittedly is more useful to redirect your tank to the other tank targeting both supports, but it does heal and provide immortality for it's duration.
The healing dash is useful, both for escape and general mobility, and honestly petal platform is slept on.
His ult is honestly best used for blocking an enemy and holding a point with your team. Unlike zen's ult, it just doesn't heal enough for better uses, and probably won't save a dying teammate.
I could see that I think even tho they nerfed his dash his survivability I think was buffed overall I think that’s a fair argument lifeweaver has never really be amazing so saying he was the best than or now still makes him like bottom 2 supports in the game lmfao
LW works by helping to mitigate mistakes your teammates make. He is inherently defensive support. But that also means his offensive carry potential is non-existent. You have to rely on teammates, and that is a recipe for....... mediocrity
is no one going to mention this guys actual bronze gameplay
He said rein was b tier no need to look at the gameplay
@Coach0110 are you saying he is higher or lower
🤓x3 ^
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@@smeeryx rein is good wym?
I'm sorry, but i can't ignore the horrendous gameplay lmao
The nerf Genji meme started in OW1
Did it actually I started playing overwatch in 2018 but I never really watched that many UA-camrs
@@mercyI_I ye genjis been consistently one of the bottom dps since 2018 and every time hes been actually good since then has lasted only like 2 weeks before he gets completely gutted lol, and then theyll ignore what was actually broken like soyjourn was back the last time this happened
@@joeschipper6465 yeah I don’t realize by looking through his history more it’s kind of surprising the weird cycle they have with him the soj thing is also pretty funny but at least they are pushing her into a better place at least imo
i'd say lifeweaver is strongest right now. they improved his consistency, his damage, and his utility.
Pretty much all of these were bang on, but for echo i would say her strongest state was pre season 9 and after her ult got changed so that it builds 25% faster at the cost of less ult charge during her ult
Yeah I think that’s fine I feel like she was honestly just as strong than she in season 11 especially with the dps passive I could see it I only put season 11 because pick rate wise she was more popular than but that’s not necessarily her being weaker just a different meta
12:01 imo Cass was easily his strongest in S4. He had 225 when every other squishy had 200 which mattered is a higher percentage increase compared to now, still had 131 damage nade, and had much better fall off range. He was pretty inarguably the best hitscan that season and all the pro teams pretty much only played Cass whenver they played a hs (besides the sniper heavy maps like circuit)
14:49 small correction. Nerf genji has been around since overwatch 1.
love how we understand that the only time mercy was "broken" she wasn't actually broken blizzard just added a character that shouldn't have a oneshot into the game
@@ghostlyashley6195 true tho I think it’s hard to explain looking at raw stats but I think people were realizing that a mercy pocket dps even besides soj was super good but I think she was nerfed way to much and imo she is the worst support in the game right now
@@mercyI_I not really cause the mercy mobility nerfs (unnecessary) didn't do much to her, what drove her off the meta was sojourn getting her oneshot (with dmg buff included) removed and the only other 2 heroes that made her good (cass and ashe) being nerfed as well
@@mercyI_I imo it would be nice if they gave her healing power from ow 1 back (as well as revert the mobility bullshit they did to her) and completely nerf or remove dmg boost since it keeps her in this state of only ever beeing good if there's a good character she can stand behind and stand still for 80% of the game bluebeaming, beam juggling was so much more fun, rewarding and healthy for the game and allowed her to shine for herself if you were good at her much like other healers
Mercy was so much an anti-fun during the PharMercy glory-days, especially when the two of them were buddies stacked together.
@@artmanrom phara was still very much still a problem where she always has been, low to mid elo even after pharmercy glory days until she got reworked, because again, her problems were only amplified by mercy, but were there on their own
7:59 Sigma “has never really been crazy broken or anything”
I am not sure if this is JUST referring to Overwatch 2 but Overwatch 1 Release Sigma is one if the most broken states of a hero ever.
Great video though!!! 🎉
haha facts but yeah this video is only refering to ow2 :p
Sigma never git nerfed until OW2 just to get those nerfs reverted then buffed with tank passives, then have his ult buff reverted. So his strongest state is OW2 regardless. What made him good in OW was Orisa bap and Brig with brig being the most broken character to ever exist. While bap had his immortality in its strongest state even though it got nerfed and easier to kill later the rest of his kit got giga buffed in OW2. So pretty much all characters best states are in OW2 except for Mercy and Brig.
@@202adrliterally what are you talking about. Sigma was easily most broken when on release when he had a 1500 hp shield with no retraction cool down, a one shot combo on 250hp characters, and a kinetic grasp that could block more things than a dva. Not to mention his ult was uninterruptible and you could kill 3 people even after death. Just don’t make sht up lil bro
@@arbre_mystique his 500 hp on shields is now in his health, The sheild retraction is the only nerf, the ult was always interruptible you could always hog hook or ana sleep it unless the sig played well and ulted behind shield while also getting los to use it. And even if it wasnt. There was a patch in Overwatch 2 while he got his oneshot combo back which is now for 300hp targets he could get you in the ult without LOS as long as your in the range of it. That is way more broken cause he can avoid you and not even have to worry about interrupts at all.
@@202adr if he confirmed his ult it was impossible to interrupt and his shield is much weaker compared to ow1. He was much stronger on release
Amazing video with a far better quality than expected!❤️ Now we just need the KarQ „Weakest State“ Video from you😅
@@SnickersGuy2 thank you so much that means a lot yeah the weakest state will definitely be very interesting
Launch Lucio was crazy. You could solo support with the radius of his heals and the speed boost was so much faster.
Yeah Lucio was like a passive they would just sit at the sky box and just speed and heal lol
That's OW1 launch Lucio, this video only talks about their OW2 state
Sigma is def in OP state right now, after the latest update. The damage you do at distance is insane + no self damage.
Lifeweaver has the potential to turn the game around, the problem is: the players can't identify the scenarios where this is possible, as happens with Ana, Kiriko and Baptiste for example, he is definitely not even close to one of the worst supports in the game, when he is not in the right scenario, he makes no difference at all, but he also doesn't hinder the team, but when he is in the right scenario he can make a big difference
So why has he never been meta is he isn't as bad as you say?
@@hellojimbi5822 I said why in the comment, and before he was much worse, the recent buffs were incredible, he is not a meta character because his performance in the match is unpredictable, Ana's is not, Kiriko's even less, but he is also not a horrible character as people say, I think the best comparison is with Mercy, her resurrection is unpredictable, the player cannot know if it will be useful, but if it is, it can change the course of the fight.
@@fe-main yes, unpredictability makes a character bad. If they can only do a game changing play once in a while by luck and other characters can do it naturally that means the character isn't good. You don't want a loose cannon on your team
@@hellojimbi5822 you're forgetting that there's a middle ground between "bad" and "broken", lifeweaver and mercy are balanced, ana and kiriko are broken, their abilities are totally broken, and i believe baptiste can fall into that category too, and what I meant by "unpredictable" is not about luck.
@@fe-main Yeah, the middle-ground is Lucio, Brig, Juno, Zen, maybe even Moira who all have a niche in their respective comps but can't just be used as a generic value hero. Heroes with only defensive abilities are just bad, the game is about speed and offense and Lifeweaver brings none of that. He is only "balanced" if you consider doing nothing the mid-point between being a detriment to your team and being a benefit.
16:38 did you just say “Ryan” when referring to rein
Awesome video man, you should do worst states next
i hope to see more of this series. recapping on ow2 is fresh
Thank you my guy I’ll try and keep it up
Technical best state for Illari was release when she was disabled in comp and her ult going through shields. But when she got into they nerfed that, but here is the thing Illari had a size in her hits can, and she can consistently two tap squishies because of her hits can. Pylon has always been really broken ability just putting it in some of the most bs places and the range on it is so crazy still.
I honestly think Lifeweaver is the strongest he's been in a good while right now. The recent petal changes are really nice and offer a ton of utility to the whole team. His healing is good and his damage is getting slightly better. He's still bad compared to other supports but I think he's showing actual potential to maybe become good someday.
What an insane video, can appreciate all the effort that went into it
Thank you my guy
Small correction on genji is that neither him nor tracer actually got a move speed bonus from the old dps passive since they both already had a higher base move speed
@@jakelastra9488 is this true?? Because I could’ve sworn he did but if not than that changes a lot
@@mercyI_Iyeah it was really a placebo effect, also the fact that blade gives him a 50% move speed which people mistook for the passive
@@jakelastra9488 bro what? They changed the passive for launch everyone got bonus move speed + reload speed for a few seconds, they changed the extra move speed thing genji and tracer have back to just them since the first beta of ow2
@@joeschipper6465 genji and tracer have had the extra move speed since 2016 and it never left
@@jakelastra9488 ye ik but in the first beta they gave it to all dps until it was removed and replaced with the new passive at launch, which stacked on top of thr bonus move speed genji and tracer already had
Wouldn’t dva’s peak be after the Juno buffs but before mid season, because idk if anyone actually played overmatch in high elo here but holy fuck she was so op
Nevermind as I watch more of the video I realise this was made just before dva Juno meta
@@grumpygoo7951 this was written right after season 12 came out when she was bad as I’ve been working on we’ve gotten like 3 patches which buffed her three times which is why I have her updated version than but dva’s isnt but yeah that combo was insane that shit was like super sonic until they nerfed it in the mid season patch
@@grumpygoo7951 lmao yeah all good
Someone make a workshop code where every hero is in the strongest state
omg i love i wanted karq to make a sequal but you did i love uuuu
I gotcha brotha I love Karq
The smash music was such a nice touch 👏
@@WeIrdWsdom thank you bro lol
Honestly I would have considered OW 2 release lucio to be the strongest version because he was just so unkillable with heal aura + support passive. Then the eventual self healing reduction got nerfed to be even stronger and made amp healing almost useless.
so true. ow2 beta/release lucio was unstoppable
This has me thinking: with the exception of Brig, Mercy, and maybe a couple others, all of the most broken states of these characters have been in Overwatch 2. No other character has ever been this strong in Overwatch 1
Sigma was pretty broken on release
Yeah I think it’s really impossible to compare tanks because they are competing in a different environment but I feel like yeah with the hp changes and everything the power creep in the game right now is wild
Someone forgot about the omnic crisis bastion meta.
Genji was way better that one patch he had 30 dmg in ow1
widow is an interesting one I am a widow main and would argue shes been about the same the entire time obviously fluctuating based if dive is more meta or not but imo the most fun was day one of season 9 when widow had massive projectiles I mean you basically couldn't miss a headshot and you felt like a superhero it was patched basically immeadiately though, and also i feel like to comment on what you said about her being the sole reason of map pool removal isnt true i hope it was clear to the devs wether widow exists or not that map pools are boring and make playing the game a lot feel bad
@@Lambo-ux3uh I agree looking back on the video I lost tracking of where I was in the script cause my phone died when recording so I just kind of free balled it but map pools were not a fundamental part of the game and I think a lot of people are glad there gone and that super brief part in season 9 the only reason I didn’t put her there was cause of the meta but I understand your reasoning
You forgot about brigitte.
i actually dont know how i did but i left my notes in the pinned comment but my bad
don’t worry, we all remember
maybe thats just a forgettable hero
@@its_lucky2526I prefer not to remember even tho it was pretty fun to use.
@@mercyI_Ishe is my main how dare u
I remember ramatcha after release was insane his ultimate just lasted forever
Bridget never had a peak case closed
Bridge gitta
Ya she's never been bad
If she ever gets to the point she was on release the entire balance team has to go
you weren't there for brig on release... she was a fucking demon LOL
Bigeate
me, a lifeweaver main, clicking this vid knowing his most broken state is just another hero's mid state 😋
Lmfaooooo most real comment I’ve ever seen I love playing lw but man he is just trash
When Hanzo still had his one shot they boosted every projectile hitbox which made Hanzo shoot one shotting logs. That for me was the most op. I don’t remember if that was the season you said in the video or not, so I’m just gonna add that there.
Forgot the projectile size of release Soj was the size of a frisbee.
True
I remember a time in overwatch 1 where the best dps would almost always be a genji, hanzo, or junkrat - and I find junkrat do fun and do a lot of dmg still so will always be my main ❤
I want to point out as well that sigma recieved some stealth nerfs at the start of this season. He can no longer ult immediately after rocking, and same thing with the orbs. He feels clunky, (similar to ashe who feels clunky too)
9:54 made me wince so hard 😭
Sigma was broken on release with a glitch that allowed people to shoot 4 balls each time. Meaning you could one shot squishies back in the day.
I’ve never heard of that glitch but either way I’m not counting glitches or anything otherwise infinite ult bastion would be the best or infinite bury venture both glitches
Great work man!
Appreciate it bro
I feel like that Brig was most broken when her whipshot was buffed and could kill squishies with 2 melee, bash, whip. This was reverted quite fast.
Also for Mercy, her strongest peak was when she could heal 25% more when targets were below 50%. Making them unkillable.
Mauga on release, aith infinite ammo, more ammo on his machine guns, more health regen, faster cooldowns, more health and more damage and bleed through was just absolutely fucken terrible to play against. He was pretty much unkillable, ESPECIALLY if he had a pocket healer.
Do yall remember ball season 3 when he got buffed to get shields, had adaptive shields almost always up and mine + piledrive was impossible to dodge because of how fast mines armed
there was also a point of time where illari had a bug which gave her infinite ammo as a result of a buff to her healing during reload (it was insane but i dont think it was allowed in comp 🤦♂)
Yeah I remember that I actually have a video of me doing it in quick play so I’ll always have a clip of it but yeah it was pretty nuts
@@mercyI_I nice video though man keep it up 👍
Damn this is a long video. But I’m here for it. Love the roadhog and bastion part though
Nerf genji has been a thing since OW1
I’d say sigma’s strongest state was when his ult went through walls
I’m not really counting bugs like that because I could also say bastions strongest state was when he could use he’s out infinitely but yeah that sigma shit was pretty wack
@@mercyI_I I’m pretty sure that wasn’t a bug
I remember seeing it on the patch notes
@@yazan_q u right actually tho that bug was before he got his one shot back thinking about it now maybe it could’ve but also the universal buffs like the headshot reduction still push him over for me tho it honestly might be even cause we’ve all seen the flats clip of him figuring it out but I feel like well it was good it was still somewhat niche I feel like
@@mercyI_I what lmao
Funnily enough jay3 watched this video and said the same thing
Based on win rate, currently Junkrat is one of the top performing DPS, and Sojourn is one of the worst performing.
Skill issue
If your looking at overbuffed than that data isn’t always accurate but either way there’s no denying that junkrat has really only been nerfed and o think after the last soj buff she’s pretty good tbh
@@mercyI_IJunkrat really isnt bad right now though. Hes actually pretty solid in his current state. The problem is lower ranks are falling into his spam playstyle, but flankrat is where he is best rn.
And the devs have said not too long ago that while Overbuff isnt exactly perfect, its fairly close to their internal stats outside of gm+ where there is very limited data.
Lifeweaver best state was Pre Mauga sooo season 7 I think? Before mid season 8 so from the time period he got those buffs till the season 9 changes Lifeweaver has been the most misunderstood hero in the game.
During this time period on overbuff youd notice increase in "AggroWeavers" and people who could actually play Lifeweaver making it to the top spots on overbuff.
I myself made it to GM for the first time with Lifeweaver (As well as Baptiste for specific situations).
Lifeweaver 1 is a duelist, he always had "Just enough" ammo and damage to get the Job done (pre season 9 changes).
He's not just this "Reactive" "always needs his team" "can't carry" hero.
The "AggroLifegrip" back when he had 16 seconds was also a skill I picked up.
Now I can go over the defensive stuff you probably already know but I wanna focus on who Lifeweaver thinks he is and what he actually is.
Now that Lifeweavers back at full power after multiple multiple bad metas, I went from falling alll the way from GM to plat currently back to masters again and all it took was him being able to catch back up to the season 9 changes and pre charge his heals thats helped to.
A lot of people also play Lifeweaver into really bad match ups and situations because he's just this "Haha funny hero" when you see Mauga get the hell off Weaver, when you see Echo get the hell off Lifeweaver, when you see Pharah get the hell off Weaver.
When you see an Orisa you should be eating that B alive
When you see Torb if we have a weaver and that torb turret stays up for any reason someones getting reported for throwing.
Don't play him on Antarctica Peninsula ever, you SHOULD play him on Dorado and Numbani attack and hell even hollywood.
When Lifeweavers "Bad" I've noticed he falls into this healbot category everyone imagines he already is when you HAVE to play Weaver like that yes that's when he's "Bad"
No one knows how important Weaver’s gun is so most don't know when his "Good" states actually are or if he's even had any to begin with he's always just been like this "Meme" hero to them.
He's a breakpoint hero, he always walks on a thread when it comes to winning and losing soooo when I run out of Ammo or don't do enough damage ya know If I don't win my 1v1s or apply enough poke damage etc etc. That is the difference between winning and losing, between him being good and "Bad"
The further you can push the gun and get actual results even if it's just mid max value determines what Lifeweavers best state is.
Great background music made me wanna play smash bros again
Doom still feels like a throw pick when half the other team swaps to counter and instead of also swapping most dooms would rather complain about it in chat
I've been so out of loop with overwatch(last played ow1 back in 2018) so ow2 was a HUGE change and made me an idiot with all the reworks and new heroes. still relearning the game and your videos help me get back into speed. glad i kept my limited skins from owning ow1 😅
Glad I could help bro honestly coming from game to game the game is still really fun (as long as you don’t queue tank lmfao)
@@mercyI_I I'm a support main, and have been with my mainstay mercy through her ups and downs (i still miss her team revive lol) but have been using juno and kiriko more as of late. sometimes brig when situations change.
i never expected this video to have kid icarus soundtrack.Youre the goat great video
Thank you bro dark pit is my g I love that dude glad you liked it
as a jr player, I honestly think he’s strongest right now, he got so many 1 shots back and can be an absolute terror at times with still impressive tank killing abilities
bro thank you so much! i wanted to see a video like this for multiple month
I feel like echo was at her strongest when tank copy still gave her the full tank HP. It gave her way more impact with her ult.
I hope blizzard found this video and finally realize how bad Lifeweaver is , he never be meta or even have broken state
he always F tier or the best he can do is mid and that's not enough.
@@phoenix_kaori2478 yeah this is facts but the problem is that with lifeweavers design he pretty much has to stay ass or otherwise he is a toxic character that requires no aim because he’s healing outlocks I love lw so much but man it feels bad
Enjoyable video, some feedback for future videos though, I felt like the music was both too busy, and it was too loud in the mix compared to your voice, was little distracting and annoying
@@tuinhoofd1923 thanks I’ll try and make it better in the next one love the feedback
Close enough. Welcome back KarQ
@@Golden_Zeke lmfaooo w
You forgot at the beginning of season 3 ball got his health changed to shield and got his mines buffed. That was a period when ball dominated. Also in season 2 Ramattra has infinite ult and was over powered, but completely overshadowed by hog. Even devs were surprised that people didn’t complain about him.
omg arms background music 💗💗
W song
wasnt sigmas best state when they did that random ass change to the line of sight requirement of the ult
Junkrat being the “worst dps” but rank 1 dps player is a junkrat one trick 😂
Tbh, junkrat is in his most broken state since he has his one shot back for some characters and takes tanks hp down faster than any other character
@@Voruki he used to be able to one shot any squishy and he also just overall had more damage in the past than he does now
@@mercyI_I if only the tanks didn’t lose so much hp from him now
I HEAVILY appreciate lets dance boys being played here.
Not enough people put respect on bayonettas music
@@brandoncole5533 facts I love bayonetta music that’s why I use it so much in videos
Hi great video!
Do you have a playlist for the background music?
Thanks!
Ball was definitely best in Feb 2023 when Piledriver got buff 10 to 8 sec and Ult arming time from 1.5 to 1
. He slammed ult an they died instantly
Idk if my lobbies are just different but I feel like half of these are the exact opposite of how it’s actually playing out
i think dva's strongest state would have been season 12 due to the bug before the mid season patch were paired with juno she could cross the map in seconds
Junkrat has been in the top 5 of win rate on over buff for basically every season of Overwatch 2….
9:23 who texted u 😭
Na cause why did you just read my soul there’s no way that’s like actually getting a little to real lmfaooo
What about when they made Sigma's ult hit through walls? I personally think that was his strongest point
I wanted this so much but nobody made it thank you
@@alphahawk325 I gotchu bro
that zarya meta was probably the most miserable season for me in ow2. I hated that zarya meta even more than the orisa metas because at least its easier to dive orisas backline rather than zarya bubbling her supports and zarya with high charge is more lethal than orisa.
"hog worked in 6v6" i dont think ive heard a lie so big in my life
you right hog like mauga is a terrible design that will never really work but i meant that hog being able to one shot in 5v5 without another tank to help is much more impactful than in 6v6
11:32 :( please bring back the armour when configuring :) . 2:22 queen is my favourite tank I love being in the enemy teams face :)
THE VENTURE TAKE IS SO TRUE
THEY'RE SO FUN AND I ALWAYS USE THAT SKIN ON THEM
Hopefully they stay slept on so that they dont get nerfed 🤭
@@ilEagle3696 there clearly not that slept on cause they just got nerfed again but I still think there damage output is super strong
@@mercyI_I yeah, definitely
I just hope it doesnt get any worse 😭
@@ilEagle3696 fr bro please just let them be like the 3rd best dps in the game for like one second
Bayonetta & Persona ost are peak choices
Good video!
@@kenshimitsuX thank you bro
I need to know the music from the junkrat section
@@Tapood74 flatzone 2 game and watch I gotcha
We forgetting the small time that Mauga got overhealth when activating cardiac
Damn nice list suprised i agreed with most off these
Thank you bro
I imagine the low pickrate for Echo is because she takes like 150 matches finished just to unlock her, i myself just started this week and am slowly but surely working on getting her since she seems really fun in the practice modes
@@Jonrocks7 I love echo but also they made every character free to get tho right?
@ yes, it just takes AWHILE if you are newer like me
"started the nerf genji meme" that's been a thing since like 2018 I think
Imagine all of this broken metas were not nerfed and still being in the game
I think with power creep with the state it’s at I think most likely the best character would probably be similar to the first meta with dva, tracer, soj, Lucio, kiri with really the only difference being dva instead of Winston. It would still be pretty fun to see
You forgot the infinite fly glitch for sigma
@@Gamingbear832 I’m not counting glitches because otherwise characters like venture who had that glitch where they could bury forever or bastions infinite ult and stuff
peak music choice
@@chipi4179 Ty bro
that hanzo clip was rough
Shoutouts to release zarya for having to get nerfed in total chaos specifically because she was able to just infinitely live 😭
Personally I think the 29 to 27 nerf is much much worse than the speed buff
the damage threshhold of one less shuriken has permanently made it so genji can't one shot unless it's a full triple headshot dash shebang
whereas before he could hit 6 stars and melee for the kill
This meant that he could shoot twice and melee
and there are pleeeenty of situations where genji could burst you down for basically free
- Right click melee is a risk free kill option, because he can dash out on failure
- he can dash in without any regard because he can always just right click twice and get out
- NANO GENJI is basically blade because all he needs to hit is dash and right click
Overall, genji having a 2 shot threshold instead of a 3 shot gave him way too much freedom in how he could approach
it was just too good... and legit... i miss those days
ngl you should do the weakest state of all heroes in ow2, that'd be pretty interesting!
And ima give you a spoiler, since i main him, ram's was during s9.
His vortex dmg was insignificant, only 45 compared to the 70 total dmg buff he got in s10.
Nemesis form was just a bocking simulator more than ever, taking 5 punches for killing a regular dps was just embarassing. Annihilation doing only 30dmg per sec, thing that you dont even notice thanks to all the hp increases, from how low it is, nowdays too since it didnt got buffed. (B- ult since u only use it for refreshing ur armor and thats it, cant do anything else but that). In s9 zen was also meta, which is an incredibly HUGE counter to ram bc of his discord and ram having no ways to protect himself from it, specially during nemesis form. Also lets not forget the proj. sizes increased by a TON so making ram the easiest target to hit in the entire game.
Abt my other main, kiriko, was during s12.
The recovery time increased from 0.5 to 0.55 seconds felt incredibly bad for how slow it was and the 8sec tp nerf she got in s11 made her way weaker than ever thanks to her hp going down to 225. So it was pretty rare for a kiriko to be actually useful back then. No wonder i only seen her when the enemies had an ana, never seen her in other situations.
That junker queen ultimate 😭🤣
As a ball player, ball is at his weakest right now. The sombra reworks just keep making ball less viable. In start of ow2, she was annoying but not a threat herself, then after the patch where they added virus, all they did is make sombra an actual threat to ball. With the latest rework sombra can easily kill ball on her own, not to mention I think sombra countering ball is the biggest counter in the whole game. It was possible to beat a counterpick as ball, yk sigma, hog, doom, mauga, sombra, junkrat, ana, lucio. But if the enemy team has a sombra, now you just don't stand a chance.
I'm just too stubborn to stop playing ball though
Also the invisible nerf to sombra doesn't affect ball
They should giga buff everyone to their prime it would be really fun for a game mode probably would make rank feel like ass
Man I loved brig when she first came out, it was so easy to destroy everyone😢😢😢😢
As a Genji main I feel the pain but in lower ranks he is still decent if you know what you are doing