You would think that as many times someone has said something about the stack cover not opening all the way that he would do it differently and open them up all the way like they should be. I have a 500 gallon from Big Phil and he did the same to mine but he said it was OK just the same.
Goldee’s pit is a different animal altogether (more expensive one too). Who knows but that we might see a cheaper competitor of similar design someday?
If I were a smoker builder sending a smoker to a UA-cam reviewer, I would have paid more attention to detail. I would not have sent you a smoker that is already rusting. And the sharp edges on the grates could have been eliminated by welding the expanded metal to the bottom of the frame instead of the top. Whoever heard of shipping a smoker with the cover on it instead of shipping it in an enclosed box? Another thing I don't like is the inability to open the stack wide open, regardless of what the manufacturer thinks. Limiting the firebox door to just two positions is also questionable. But having said that, the biscuit test that matters is the one after the smoker is purring at 250 or less. Infernos are not necessary in backyard smokers, as less is more. I think this manufacturer has good hotspot control, but no manufacturer can prevent a hotspot if the fire is overbuilt. In summary, because of your attention to detail, your reviews of this smoker can help both you and the manufacturer.
The shipper out the cover in it. Not us cause he didn’t want the smoker to be rained on during transit. I run my personal on the second notch and have been for the last 5 years and have always gotten enough oxygen to run my smoker at any temp I want. The grates are made from 1” sq tubing. So welding the expanded metal in the bottom wouldn’t be very smart. And running the smoker at full stack opening and where it is in video makes no restriction at all.
@@bigphilssmokers4035 I don't claim to be an expert on shipping, but this is the first smoker I have seen on UA-cam smoker reveals that was not shipped in a plywood shipping container. As for the grates, many manufacturers use angle iron and weld the expanded metal to the bottom of the flange, thus creating a smooth rim around the entire grate with no danger of cutting hands. And though your stack and damper settings may be optimal, I think most users would prefer more flexibility in adjustment. Thank you for providing this field test, as it helps customers make more informed buying decisions.
@@commishgI use a shipper with a flat bed trailer with a ramp for easy unloading. I do ship some smokers on pallets. It the about if damages that’s happen that way is more than you would believe. Also most big names pit builders that’s build smokers that I know use 1” sq tubing cause it has more structural integrity thank using angle iron. Also angle iron is a lot cheaper than using tubing. As far as the damper comment. I’ll take that into consideration and the firebox notches I’ll also take that into consideration but for the last 10 years no one has had an issue. I own a backyard model, 250 and 500 gallon and the second bitch has always been sufficient for the temps I cook at and I cook hotter than a lot of people.
I've had mine for almost 2 years now and I still love it. Best bang for the buck pit out there for the price. I just picked up one of the new scoop baffles and am currently playing around with it and testing it out. I'm not sure why you intentionally went with 1/4" pipe on the cook chamber though. The standard on these Blue Smoke Smokers is 3/8" pipe for both the cook chamber and firebox, with 1/4" end plates. That thicker steel helps retain heat better so personally, I think you made a mistake asking for 1/4" on the cook chamber, but it'll still perform great. Congrats!
I’m glad to see this review. They are on my short list! Did it come with the scoop or did you ask for that to be added? I dug around their web site and didn’t see it mentioned.
Congrats on the new smoker! Back when I was shopping for smokers I think you included Blue Smoke in one of your comparison vids...from that I checked out their website and even called them to ask some questions, but they never got back to me, which I am thankful that was the case as I ended up going with Workhorse Pits instead...still loving my 1975w
Looks like a good performing budget backyard pit. Definitely seems like a little more attention to detail would be nice though, between the stack damper, grates barely being tacked to their frames, lip on inside of collector, etc. Maybe that's just what you expect though to save some $. Like you said, none of those things will really impact the performance at all.
For what it's worth: I used to use a cover on my smoker but if the oil is properly maintained it will sit out in the elements and not rust. I've never seen a 500 or 1000 gallon pit with a removable cover. Every smoker uses expanded metal for shelves you just learn not to stick your fingers in the holes. I would also want to be able to open the damper fully when wanted.
I really don’t see this as a budget smoker. It really has a lot to offer it seems. I mean a 1/4 side plates welded to a 3/8” fire box and cook chamber, I don’t think that you can beat the price. Also the welds look great. And the linseed oil looks awesome. PA
Looks nice, albeit not perfect. I think if you re-run the biscuit test with the damper closed down a bit more and the firebox door less open, that hot spot at the firebox end will be significantly less.
Someone already asked about the price. I want to know how much was the shipping? Did you have to look for your own shipper? What was the wait time? Did you consider getting an insulated firebox? Thank you for time. Subscribed!
@@bigphilssmokers4035 thank you for replying. I have been looking into your smokers for the past few weeks. I’ll contact you maybe you can convince me.
The owner of Jambo pits, Jaimie Geer, is the inventor of the scoop baffle. The gentleman who made this video claims to be the first to have added the holes ua-cam.com/video/r1TA2u3xHaU/v-deo.htmlsi=NW6uURfI8YzdbnED
I think that maybe your being a little to critical. A smoker like that with the linseed oil really ands a nice Petipa to the smoker. Really rustic looking. Just my opinion. PA
Congrats on the new pit! I think the biscuit test results were excellent.
I have had mine for over 2 years - really enjoy how it cooks (and looks) - you got a good lookin pit there
Blue Smoke is a hell of a pit for the price.
You would think that as many times someone has said something about the stack cover not opening all the way that he would do it differently and open them up all the way like they should be. I have a 500 gallon from Big Phil and he did the same to mine but he said it was OK just the same.
that's a poor design for sure
What was the price? Also, the Goldee's offset biscuit test was at 300 degrees for 30 mins.
They start at $2100 for the base model. Shipping will be different depending on where you live. Lead time is 10-12 weeks right now.
Goldee’s pit is a different animal altogether (more expensive one too). Who knows but that we might see a cheaper competitor of similar design someday?
If I were a smoker builder sending a smoker to a UA-cam reviewer, I would have paid more attention to detail. I would not have sent you a smoker that is already rusting. And the sharp edges on the grates could have been eliminated by welding the expanded metal to the bottom of the frame instead of the top. Whoever heard of shipping a smoker with the cover on it instead of shipping it in an enclosed box? Another thing I don't like is the inability to open the stack wide open, regardless of what the manufacturer thinks. Limiting the firebox door to just two positions is also questionable. But having said that, the biscuit test that matters is the one after the smoker is purring at 250 or less. Infernos are not necessary in backyard smokers, as less is more. I think this manufacturer has good hotspot control, but no manufacturer can prevent a hotspot if the fire is overbuilt. In summary, because of your attention to detail, your reviews of this smoker can help both you and the manufacturer.
The shipper out the cover in it. Not us cause he didn’t want the smoker to be rained on during transit. I run my personal on the second notch and have been for the last 5 years and have always gotten enough oxygen to run my smoker at any temp I want. The grates are made from 1” sq tubing. So welding the expanded metal in the bottom wouldn’t be very smart. And running the smoker at full stack opening and where it is in video makes no restriction at all.
@@bigphilssmokers4035 I don't claim to be an expert on shipping, but this is the first smoker I have seen on UA-cam smoker reveals that was not shipped in a plywood shipping container. As for the grates, many manufacturers use angle iron and weld the expanded metal to the bottom of the flange, thus creating a smooth rim around the entire grate with no danger of cutting hands. And though your stack and damper settings may be optimal, I think most users would prefer more flexibility in adjustment. Thank you for providing this field test, as it helps customers make more informed buying decisions.
@@commishgI use a shipper with a flat bed trailer with a ramp for easy unloading. I do ship some smokers on pallets. It the about if damages that’s happen that way is more than you would believe. Also most big names pit builders that’s build smokers that I know use 1” sq tubing cause it has more structural integrity thank using angle iron. Also angle iron is a lot cheaper than using tubing. As far as the damper comment. I’ll take that into consideration and the firebox notches I’ll also take that into consideration but for the last 10 years no one has had an issue. I own a backyard model, 250 and 500 gallon and the second bitch has always been sufficient for the temps I cook at and I cook hotter than a lot of people.
What made you go with Blue Smoke smokers over the Solutions smoker?
Blue Smoke smokers sent me one to review.
I'm on the fence. I'll be waiting for your next video on the Blue Smoker
I've had mine for almost 2 years now and I still love it. Best bang for the buck pit out there for the price. I just picked up one of the new scoop baffles and am currently playing around with it and testing it out. I'm not sure why you intentionally went with 1/4" pipe on the cook chamber though. The standard on these Blue Smoke Smokers is 3/8" pipe for both the cook chamber and firebox, with 1/4" end plates. That thicker steel helps retain heat better so personally, I think you made a mistake asking for 1/4" on the cook chamber, but it'll still perform great. Congrats!
Looks like a great smoker! Does Phil sell custom baffles? I would love one of these for my Yoder Wichita.
I can't remember if he does 20". He definitely sells them separately. Message him over Facebook and ask.
@@SmokeMasterD Thank You
That's why I continue to weld my expanded metal to the underside of the angle iron for the cooking grates. It's a pain, but worth it.
I’m glad to see this review. They are on my short list!
Did it come with the scoop or did you ask for that to be added? I dug around their web site and didn’t see it mentioned.
He told me that the scoop baffle now comes standard.
Congrats on the new smoker! Back when I was shopping for smokers I think you included Blue Smoke in one of your comparison vids...from that I checked out their website and even called them to ask some questions, but they never got back to me, which I am thankful that was the case as I ended up going with Workhorse Pits instead...still loving my 1975w
Looks like a good performing budget backyard pit. Definitely seems like a little more attention to detail would be nice though, between the stack damper, grates barely being tacked to their frames, lip on inside of collector, etc. Maybe that's just what you expect though to save some $. Like you said, none of those things will really impact the performance at all.
I agree 100%
For what it's worth: I used to use a cover on my smoker but if the oil is properly maintained it will sit out in the elements and not rust. I've never seen a 500 or 1000 gallon pit with a removable cover. Every smoker uses expanded metal for shelves you just learn not to stick your fingers in the holes. I would also want to be able to open the damper fully when wanted.
Congrats on the smoker👍🏽👍🏽
How hot did the tires next to the fire box get?
I sometimes feel the tires. They get warm, but I never felt like they were taking any sort of damage.
I really don’t see this as a budget smoker. It really has a lot to offer it seems. I mean a 1/4 side plates welded to a 3/8” fire box and cook chamber, I don’t think that you can beat the price. Also the welds look great. And the linseed oil looks awesome. PA
wow is this your first in person review?
No. There was the bellfab and the super 55 drum smoker. This is a memorable one though.
Looks nice, albeit not perfect. I think if you re-run the biscuit test with the damper closed down a bit more and the firebox door less open, that hot spot at the firebox end will be significantly less.
Someone already asked about the price. I want to know how much was the shipping? Did you have to look for your own shipper? What was the wait time? Did you consider getting an insulated firebox? Thank you for time. Subscribed!
They start at $2100 for the base model. Shipping will be different depending on where you live. Lead time is 10-12 weeks right now.
@@bigphilssmokers4035 thank you for replying. I have been looking into your smokers for the past few weeks. I’ll contact you maybe you can convince me.
@@bigphilssmokers4035Are they cheaper without shipping? I’m like an hour down the road from you guys, lol. Could I just come pick it up?
I think that baffle is an upgrade.
He says it's standard
Mad scientist builds pits with the same baffle plate. Who came up with the baffle plate idea first?
The owner of Jambo pits, Jaimie Geer, is the inventor of the scoop baffle. The gentleman who made this video claims to be the first to have added the holes ua-cam.com/video/r1TA2u3xHaU/v-deo.htmlsi=NW6uURfI8YzdbnED
Ok, I think this is going to be my smoker. I can drive 2.5 hours and pick one up... they accept gift cards, right?
You would have to ask them about the gift cards. I found messaging over instant message to be the best way to get in touch with them.
She looks like a great cooker not a beauty queen. I'd love one of these!
Just an opinion but cooking spray and heat works great to keep the rust off. And way cheaper.
workhorse is king of the backyard period!!!!!!
It's certainly a workhorse 😉
Was this posted twice?
Great video
I think that maybe your being a little to critical. A smoker like that with the linseed oil really ands a nice Petipa to the smoker. Really rustic looking. Just my opinion. PA
Fantastic content 👌 👏 👍
Hey it’s Look Great but I need it a little bigger 120 Gallon 😎💯🍖