so his turnovers are also elite yes i know i know.. Whats wrong with a guy having a lot of turnovers right a guy handling the ball that much will ALWAYS turn the ball over a lot but yet jordan has 9 turnovers in a game and you dont say the same thing you laugh at him .
• In the 2015 nba season the warriors won the championship. A lot of people say it’s because kyrie and love was injured. So most people at this point still had lebron as the best in the world. Kevin Durant won mvp in 2014. He missed the first 17 games and played only 27 games for the 2015 season before his season ended for that year. Point being in 2014 it was well noted that lebron was the best player in the world and Kevin Durant was second. 2015 kd missed the season due to injury but most people still had him second. After losing in the 2015 finals lebron was still regarded as the best player in the world. Curry and the warriors now had something to prove as the defending champs and because most people aside from warriors fans say they didn’t win a real championship because kyrie and kevin love were sidelined in the finals. Moving on and long story short curry is unanimous mvp and lead the warriors to 73 wins. Most people are saying he’s the best in the world at this point and that he dethroned lebron. Fast forward to the postseason. Kd and the okc thunder beat the 67 win spurs who set a 40-1 home record (tying the 86 celtics record for the best home record) the same season the warriors won 73 games and had a 39-2 home record. Before the 73 win warriors, the 67 win spurs was the team that held the most wins and didn’t win the title. The okc thunder then advance to the wcf and face the 73 win warriors and lose after being up 3-1. So at this point it’s established that kd curry and lebron are the top 3 players in the world. Since curry beat kd curry could’ve been ranked second and until the cavs matched up with the warriors nobody would know if lebron or curry was best in the world. After the cavs won the finals, lebron retained his crown as the best, curry and kd were interchangeable depending on where you would personally rank them. I personally ranked kd second and curry third. Point being, the warriors had two of the last 3 mvps in their prime and the second and third best player in the world on the same team. They went 73-9 and then added the second best player in the world. They had Two MVPs. Four allstars. A Dpoy. Two guys in the 50/40/90 club, the two best shooters in the league and arguably the best 3 and d player in the league, and a finals mvp aka a guy that got finals mvp for his defense on lebron. The second and third best player in the world. All on one team. Just to beat lebron james in his prime. So the answer is yes. He was more than that good.
@VibinHoops yes but I had to add context for anyone that says it's not true that the second and third best players in their prime teamed up to beat lebron.
Ah YES! They played LeBron, not the Cavaliers SUPERTEAM, Yuuup. Kevin Love and Kyrie TOTALLY weren't there, it was JUST LeBron! See why nobody takes yall Bronsexuals seriously??
Bron went to 8 straight finals with 2 different teams then won in 2020… his prime was that stretch of his career. Some would say his prime started after his first finals.
@ lebron went to 8 straight finals with 2 different teams and won rings/finals mvp with 3 different teams. Kyrie and Kevin love never played a minute of playoff basketball until Lebron came. Kyrie hasn’t won anything since playing with him.
@@BlickyBobbyy so we celebrate second place now?? So if jordan went to 8 straight finals and lost in ANY OF THEM would you praise him the same way you do lebron?? NOPE you'd say so what if he got there he lost.. winning is the only thing that matters but because its lebron you change the narrative.
LeBronBOTS looking at ya DEAD SERIOUS and telling ya - LeBron with KYRIE IRVING and KEVIN LOVE was apparently not fair when playing against Curry, Durant and Klay Thompson. 3 GREAT PLAYERS(each of them totally capable of being a 1st option) against 2 great players + Klay Thompson for 3rd option - a guy who is F-KIN USELESS without a top quality point guard like Steph to find him on the 3 point line!
Some people hesitate to recognize his pure scoring ability just because how flawlessly he can score the rock. Statistically speaking he is the best player of all time and that's by far
this is the most absurd thing I've ever red in my life. Calling LeBron a "flawless scorer" when his whole career is literally bulldozoing smaller players on his way to the rim without getting an offensive foul or EVEN WORSE - getting free throws(2nd all time in free throws attempted and 2 more years would be more than enough to pass Karl Malone for 1st)
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay oh also I forgot to add Lebron James has a career average of 7.2 free throw attempts per game, Micheal jordan has 8.6. Guess he is a fraud to then huh? 😂
Is anyone forgetting how when LeBron was in high school he beat Micheal Jordan in a 1v1, I'm not saying that Micheal was in his Prime, I'm still considering how Micheal in his Prime was on top. So, the debate against LeBron and Micheal in their Prime is still not debatable.
Hes prime was in 1st run in cavs he had some 30ppg seasons and more than 6 rebounds and 6 assists and I think he got robbed in 2008 when kobe won mvp cuz lebron averaged 30 8 and 7 and some people say that lebron shoudvle won mvp in 2018 when harden won mvp eve tho harden average 36ppg lebron average 29 8 and 9 and led one of the worst of not the worst team to finals
Larry Bird was a better shooter leader rebounder passer and most likely defender. Also he was way way way more clutch. Lebrick couldn't shine his shoes. Oh and by the way Kobe Michael Kareem Wilt are better than Bird. Lebrick is the king of hollow stats. He crawled like a worm on his belly and begged on his knees in front of dwade to form a superteam so his btchass could get some cheap rings. also to remind you Jason terry and jj barea outplayed him in the 2011 finalsThthis is your king??? Flop and whine... also if he is so good how come he always always needs help???
- kobe literally had shaq as the BEST player when they were together. in his prime, lebron was ALWAYS the best player, even on the heattles. - lebron at 40 has better efficiency than kobe in his prime - rookie lebron (his first cav stint) was 8-5 vs kobe - kobe was SWEPT by the mavs when his team was on their way to a 2nd 3 peat. kobe's overrated af. he shouldn't even be in the conversation for top 10.
To me in skills/production he is as good as anyone but where his case falls apart is in leadership (blame game ...constant trade talk) and performance in the clutch (has some great moments but overall stats and eye test say he lags behind some of the clutches players ever )
What clutch guys does he lag behind? He has more game winners than anyone in playoff history. He's near the top on all time buzzer beaters and he's the greatest game 7 performer of all-time. As a leader he makes everyone feel like their part of the team. And the media has shaped the LeGM narrative.
Hi mate. I will give my two cents. LeBron played bellow way below his standards in 07 (spurs) , 10 (Celtics), 11 (mavs) since then he honestly never ever played that poorly again. However in 13 (spurs ) and 23 (nuggets) he had horrible turnovers at the end of the game. To me being cultch goes beyond field goal % is not having deer in front of headlights face and also results (winning 🥇 those close games ). I would rank Sam Jones , bill Russel , Jerry west , Larry bird , Jordan , Duncan and jokic as more clutch than LeBron based on that criteria. In terms of leadership just watch the games , when he doesn’t like the team his body language is horrible and it clearly alienates the team. You have to be a leader in good times and in bad times (like being down 1-3 , no one can dispute that one :) )
Nah, he has terrible fundamentals. He can dunk and can shoot about average. He cannot dribble, his defense over the last five years is atrocious, he only plays a half court game on offense and rarely gets back on D, he flops more than any player, he travels a lot but so does most in this era, from former teammates, he’s terrible to play with, he’s a coach killer, and his best move at this point is his hands in the air complaining to the refs while the rest of his team is playing 4 on 5. He’s never been a true leader and he’s terrible in the clutch. He chokes.
If the NBA officated Lebron by correct official authentic basketball rules as was and is with everyone ever except him he would average 10 points per games at best because he would get called for traveling, offensive fouls, carrying (the ball , have to explain that because Lebron fans don’t even know how to dribble let alone play basketball), ups and downs (another on for you newbs), Lebron playstyle is literally every violation in the basketball rules book. James Naismith is rolling in grave looking at how Lebron James and his son Bronny have destroyed his once great sport. Lebron deaded the entire sport of basketball not just the NBA but basketball itself, that is why his Lebron sneakers are always sold 50 percent off on the clearance rack in Marshall’s and Ross Dress For Less. I from the City of Los Angeles and he is an embarrassment to our city. We were the great Lakers then Lebron came they became Los Angeles Free Throw Takers because I stepped away from supporting Lakers until he leaves
Yeah because you can become the All time leading scorer off of offensive fouls lol. appreciate greatness before its too late you will never see another player like lebron in your lifetime and you know that
@@swavysteals lebron is trash. The nba has been changing the rules to allow him to operate since he entered the league. I will be glad to never see a player like him again. He has been the face of the league in a period where the nba gets less popular every single year because the product is boring.
@LanceNoir both things can be true. All he does is commit offensive fouls against smaller players. In the 80s/90s there would have been someone bigger than him waiting to put him on his ass. He wouldn't have lasted ten years back then.
Wow , you don’t know ball, you don’t watch ball, your genuinely the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen comment , he has done EVERY move there is in basketball , every layup , every dunk , every mid range and three point shot, and he’s only gotten better at shooting. Your genuinely an idiot , and if you comment back I’ll violate you even worse just shut up.
@@ArisTalion last time I check, Jordan never faced 2 MVPs on the same team and he never faced more Hof's or all star caliber players on the same team as lebron lol. Who was those historically great shooting guards that mj faced in the playoffs? Has Jordan ever faced a superstar that averaged 30+ ppg in a playoff series against him??? Noooo, has he faced more all nba players then lebron? No, and what I said ain't media lies sir, Larry bird said it himself, the league was diluted in the 90's, he said that. The basketball community is filled with a bunch of mj casuals that don't know how to talk the game and just go off on what they heard by goofy ex-basketball players & other casuals. 😆😆
He was really very good in his prime. He is not the goat though. Many are saying he is not top5. I say I rank him at #4. He is a good defender,..., but just ranks 226th in defensive rating, ranks 44th in defensive box plus-minus. He ranks 212th in RPG, 2nd in TOVPG among the top 10 GOAT players - worse than Larry Bird, far worse than Michael Jordan. If you disagree, please, do expound he's the goat.
@mattsell2361 Please, do expound why you could say LBJ is the goat. Enumerate to us, all the proofs you have. #ProveTheSportsWorldWrong #ProveDwyaneWadeWrong
@mattsell2361 For the whole world to know if you really have a valid argument to say that Lebron deserves to be considered the GOAT. Since you I don't see it, it is more correct to rank him 4th. If I'm going to put him 5th, it will depend on his performance, PER, BPM & winning percentage.
@philipjavier1604 He's number 1 by far. Stop the nonsense. • #1 in regular season points • #1 all time allstar points • #1 in playoff points • #1 in playoff steals • #1 in playoff field goals • #1 in playoff fts • #1 in playoff games • #1 in playoff minutes • #1 in playoff wins (183) • #1 in playoff series wins (41) • #1 in playoff defensive rebounds • #1 in playoff win shares • #1 in playoff vorp • #1 in playoff ows • #1 in all nba teams • #1 in allstar selections • # 1 in all nba first team selections (13) • #1 in mvp shares • #1 in career assists by a forward • #1 in career apg by a forward • #1 in player of the week awards • #1 in player of the month award • #1 in finals triple doubles • #1 in playoff buzzer beaters (5) • #1 in single season bpm in the playoffs (17.53) • #1 in single season playoff obpm • #1 in playoff plus minus • #1 in clutch shots • #1 in playoff clutch shots • # 1 in gamescore in the nba finals • #2 in regular season field goals • #2 in playoff assists • #2 in playoff 3pm • #2 in playoff triple doubles • #2 in finals mvps • #2 in finals points • #3 in bpm • #3 in playoff bpm • #3 in obpm • #3 in playoff obpm • #3 in finals assists • #3 in finals field goals made • #4 in finals rebounds • #4 in finals double doubles • #4 in all time freethrows • #5 in finals rebounds • #5 in all time triple doubles • #5 in dunks • #6 in playoff double doubles • #6 in playoff ppg • #7 all time in ppg average • #8 in all time 3pm • #8 in all time steals • #10 in playoff blocks • #10 in regular season double doubles • #10 in defensive rebounds all time • Holds 4 of the top 10 gamescore in the nba finals • More finals appearances than 27 different franchises • Swept the most best of 12 series (7) • Only player top 10 in 11 different categories • Only player top 10 in every playoff stat • Only player top 100 in every stat • Only player with 3 finals mvps on 3 different teams • Won 20 playoff series without a top 75 teammate • Has the same amount of first team all nba selections as the next 3 best players of his generation • #1 in 28 stats • #1 in 13 playoff stats • #2 in 4 playoff stats • #3 in 2 playoff stats • #4 in 2 playoff stats • #6 in 1 playoff stat • #10 in 1 playoff staf • #2 in 7 stats • #3 in 2 stats • #4 in 3 stats • #5 in 3 stats • #6 in 2 stats • #7 in 1 stat • #8 in 2 stats • #10 in 3 stats • Top 10 in 51 stats • Only player to lead both teams and all players in everthing in any playoff series • Only player to be listed at all 5 positions • Only player to be top 5-10 in points and assists in the regular season and playoffs • One of five players in nba history to lead his team in every statistical category in the regular season. • One of 7 players in nba history to win both a scoring title and an assist title. • Has led his team in points, rebounds and assists 48 times in the playoffs (the next closes is bird with 13) • Has led his team in points, rebounds, and assists in the nba finals 7 times • Most 25ppg, 5apg, 5rpg seasons: 20 • Most consecutive double-digit games: 1,100+ • Only player top 10 in points, assists and steals • Only player with 500 double doubles and 100 triple doubles • Only non guard top 26 in apg • Only forward top 49 in apg • Highest scoring average for 3 different franchises • One of three players to win finals mvps on more than one team His Resume Reads: • 40k points • 11k rebounds • 11k assists • 4 mvps • 4 championships • 4 finals mvps • 3 Finals mvps on 3 different teams • 41 playoff series wins • 183 playoff wins • 20 all nba teams • 20 allstar selections • 6 all defensive teams • 13 first team all nba selections • Beat a 73 win team • Beat a spurs team with 4 hof • 3 time all-star game mvp • IST Championship • IST MVP • Olympic MVP • 41 playoff series wins (most in nba history) • Most playoff wins • Most playoff buzzer beaters • Most clutch shots in the playoffs • 40 player of the month awards • 68 player of the week awards • 20 seasons of averaging 25 ppg • 27, 7 and 7 for a 21 year career • Averaged 30, 8 and 6 in year 19 • Assist leader in 2020
🤣 the goat never. Dream teams entire career and even lost with those teams.🤣 if didn't have the genetics. Will have be just like bronny basic as hell. Bronny athletic like dad. Different is lebron was big doing it and bronny small but same game.
Lost too dallas with dream team. Avg 16pts. Lebron didn't make playoff with shaq,westbrook,camelo,davis,djordan,rondo,dwight.🤣 wizard jordan would won a trophy with that team.lebron stay in cleveland he be retired 10 yrs ago. Lebron have no rings. Jordan by far it not even close. Jordan won 3 trophy after daddy died,and retired for 2yrs. Won with a bulls team older then lakers lebron didn't make playoff with. Rodman was older then lakers entire team. Rodman was on crack,prostitute and kick off 2 teams. Jordan won 3 rings with the oldest team ever. Curry more credit then lebron. Lebron play with 3or4 players avg over 24+ on all his teams combined into 1team. Curry play with what he had. Dreymond willn't start on anyteam.klay,curry was sit bench for gs and they was all drafted. Ya'll call gs a damn superteam. Curry did the hard way. Not easy way like lebron. Won 2 rings before durant even arrive not that was a superteam.VS lebron who had a superteam with cleveland love,kyrie both avg over 24pts. Durant show you who the best player if he stay with gs in this era.Tmac,kobe,duncan,reggie. If tmac taken lebron route he have rings too.🤔
1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. Magic Johnson 4. Kareem Abdul Jabbar 5. Larry Bird 6. Tim Duncan 7, Shaquille O’Neal 8. Isiah Zeke Thomas 9. Dennis Rodman 10. Derek Fisher 11. Kevin Garnett 12. Hakeem Olajuwon 13. Charles Barkley 14. Karl Malone 15. Scottie Pippen Lebron doesn’t even play basketball correctly and has a low basketball IQ, very low, Lebron flops, Lebron abuses performance enhancing drugs, he can’t dribble, his playstyle is boring and ugly to watch, he travels every offensive play, he is not better than anybody that I personally know, lebron is not better than random boys I pass by playing basketball with their friends, Lebron is not better than Anthony Davis, Lebron is not better than Quincy Olivari. Basketball died because Real Basketball Fans feel the same way as I do. The END
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If you’re genuinely asking how good was LeBron, that man is still playing at an elite level skill wise and athletic wise at 40.
so his turnovers are also elite yes i know i know.. Whats wrong with a guy having a lot of turnovers right a guy handling the ball that much will ALWAYS turn the ball over a lot but yet jordan has 9 turnovers in a game and you dont say the same thing you laugh at him .
he needs to be tested!
bron is still in prime guys
@@nemanjaivkovic9781 he's a clown and overrated
That’s a stretch
@@cynthia9813definitely overrated
@@JohnC-rz7cy I wasn’t talking to u
But ur comment is also a stretch
• In the 2015 nba season the warriors won the championship. A lot of people say it’s because kyrie and love was injured. So most people at this point still had lebron as the best in the world. Kevin Durant won mvp in 2014. He missed the first 17 games and played only 27 games for the 2015 season before his season ended for that year. Point being in 2014 it was well noted that lebron was the best player in the world and Kevin Durant was second. 2015 kd missed the season due to injury but most people still had him second. After losing in the 2015 finals lebron was still regarded as the best player in the world. Curry and the warriors now had something to prove as the defending champs and because most people aside from warriors fans say they didn’t win a real championship because kyrie and kevin love were sidelined in the finals. Moving on and long story short curry is unanimous mvp and lead the warriors to 73 wins. Most people are saying he’s the best in the world at this point and that he dethroned lebron. Fast forward to the postseason. Kd and the okc thunder beat the 67 win spurs who set a 40-1 home record (tying the 86 celtics record for the best home record) the same season the warriors won 73 games and had a 39-2 home record. Before the 73 win warriors, the 67 win spurs was the team that held the most wins and didn’t win the title. The okc thunder then advance to the wcf and face the 73 win warriors and lose after being up 3-1. So at this point it’s established that kd curry and lebron are the top 3 players in the world. Since curry beat kd curry could’ve been ranked second and until the cavs matched up with the warriors nobody would know if lebron or curry was best in the world. After the cavs won the finals, lebron retained his crown as the best, curry and kd were interchangeable depending on where you would personally rank them. I personally ranked kd second and curry third. Point being, the warriors had two of the last 3 mvps in their prime and the second and third best player in the world on the same team. They went 73-9 and then added the second best player in the world. They had Two MVPs. Four allstars. A Dpoy. Two guys in the 50/40/90 club, the two best shooters in the league and arguably the best 3 and d player in the league, and a finals mvp aka a guy that got finals mvp for his defense on lebron. The second and third best player in the world. All on one team. Just to beat lebron james in his prime. So the answer is yes. He was more than that good.
Bro wrote a whole essay
@VibinHoops yes but I had to add context for anyone that says it's not true that the second and third best players in their prime teamed up to beat lebron.
@VibinHoops bro also clicked and watched your video
You gave perfect context
Ah YES! They played LeBron, not the Cavaliers SUPERTEAM, Yuuup. Kevin Love and Kyrie TOTALLY weren't there, it was JUST LeBron!
See why nobody takes yall Bronsexuals seriously??
Bron went to 8 straight finals with 2 different teams then won in 2020… his prime was that stretch of his career. Some would say his prime started after his first finals.
@@BlickyBobbyy LeBron James was carried by the Miami Heat and carried by Kyrie Irving. Stop it with the nonsense.
@ lebron went to 8 straight finals with 2 different teams and won rings/finals mvp with 3 different teams. Kyrie and Kevin love never played a minute of playoff basketball until Lebron came. Kyrie hasn’t won anything since playing with him.
@@BlickyBobbyy so we celebrate second place now?? So if jordan went to 8 straight finals and lost in ANY OF THEM would you praise him the same way you do lebron?? NOPE you'd say so what if he got there he lost.. winning is the only thing that matters but because its lebron you change the narrative.
When the second and third best players in the world in their prime team up to stop the best, you're more than that good.
LeBronBOTS looking at ya DEAD SERIOUS and telling ya - LeBron with KYRIE IRVING and KEVIN LOVE was apparently not fair when playing against Curry, Durant and Klay Thompson. 3 GREAT PLAYERS(each of them totally capable of being a 1st option) against 2 great players + Klay Thompson for 3rd option - a guy who is F-KIN USELESS without a top quality point guard like Steph to find him on the 3 point line!
who the 3 not curry
2012-2018 was his prime. Age 27-33
Yes, if u say he isn’t the greatest, You’re blinded by pure delusion. Clearly never watched him
Not even top 10
@@JohnC-rz7cy pure delusion
@@JohnC-rz7cyblinded by nostalgia 😭
@@jilchr5111it’s rage bait
@@JohnC-rz7cywow delusion not even the word homie 😂
i have never seen anyone who dominate any sports for that long.GAOAT 🔥
Without Lebron, 2010 era would be way less interesting. Many of these drama in 2010 era involve Lebron.
Some people hesitate to recognize his pure scoring ability just because how flawlessly he can score the rock. Statistically speaking he is the best player of all time and that's by far
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Stats are worthless when the actual quality of play is so poor.
@@VibinHoops LeFRAUD!
this is the most absurd thing I've ever red in my life. Calling LeBron a "flawless scorer" when his whole career is literally bulldozoing smaller players on his way to the rim without getting an offensive foul or EVEN WORSE - getting free throws(2nd all time in free throws attempted and 2 more years would be more than enough to pass Karl Malone for 1st)
@@BeerAndJointsAllDay oh also I forgot to add Lebron James has a career average of 7.2 free throw attempts per game, Micheal jordan has 8.6. Guess he is a fraud to then huh? 😂
Is anyone forgetting how when LeBron was in high school he beat Micheal Jordan in a 1v1, I'm not saying that Micheal was in his Prime, I'm still considering how Micheal in his Prime was on top. So, the debate against LeBron and Micheal in their Prime is still not debatable.
@ProsperTrey quit lying dude
Jonny Arnett would kill you over this video 😂
is the sky blue ahh question
lets talk about when his team played dallas!
“Everyone he faced was scared of him.” Bahahaha!!!!
4 titles with 3 teams set up for a championship? Ok I guess
Hes prime was in 1st run in cavs he had some 30ppg seasons and more than 6 rebounds and 6 assists and I think he got robbed in 2008 when kobe won mvp cuz lebron averaged 30 8 and 7 and some people say that lebron shoudvle won mvp in 2018 when harden won mvp eve tho harden average 36ppg lebron average 29 8 and 9 and led one of the worst of not the worst team to finals
LBJ.
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2018-lebron hits diff.
Go look at all leebron highlights than look at kobes there's a big difference than look at kds. Kobe clears the other two combined
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Larry Bird was a better shooter leader rebounder passer and most likely defender. Also he was way way way more clutch. Lebrick couldn't shine his shoes. Oh and by the way Kobe Michael Kareem Wilt are better than Bird. Lebrick is the king of hollow stats. He crawled like a worm on his belly and begged on his knees in front of dwade to form a superteam so his btchass could get some cheap rings. also to remind you Jason terry and jj barea outplayed him in the 2011 finalsThthis is your king??? Flop and whine... also if he is so good how come he always always needs help???
I'll give you Wilt. The rest are veeeeery arguable
Cope
This is very schizo of you
- kobe literally had shaq as the BEST player when they were together. in his prime, lebron was ALWAYS the best player, even on the heattles.
- lebron at 40 has better efficiency than kobe in his prime
- rookie lebron (his first cav stint) was 8-5 vs kobe
- kobe was SWEPT by the mavs when his team was on their way to a 2nd 3 peat.
kobe's overrated af. he shouldn't even be in the conversation for top 10.
Cant believe this is even a video
Why?
Bruh shut up 😂
this is a great vid bro
Appreciate it
To me in skills/production he is as good as anyone but where his case falls apart is in leadership (blame game ...constant trade talk) and performance in the clutch (has some great moments but overall stats and eye test say he lags behind some of the clutches players ever )
What clutch guys does he lag behind? He has more game winners than anyone in playoff history. He's near the top on all time buzzer beaters and he's the greatest game 7 performer of all-time. As a leader he makes everyone feel like their part of the team. And the media has shaped the LeGM narrative.
Hi mate. I will give my two cents. LeBron played bellow way below his standards in 07 (spurs) , 10 (Celtics), 11 (mavs) since then he honestly never ever played that poorly again. However in 13 (spurs ) and 23 (nuggets) he had horrible turnovers at the end of the game. To me being cultch goes beyond field goal % is not having deer in front of headlights face and also results (winning 🥇 those close games ). I would rank Sam Jones , bill Russel , Jerry west , Larry bird , Jordan , Duncan and jokic as more clutch than LeBron based on that criteria. In terms of leadership just watch the games , when he doesn’t like the team his body language is horrible and it clearly alienates the team. You have to be a leader in good times and in bad times (like being down 1-3 , no one can dispute that one :) )
Nah, he has terrible fundamentals. He can dunk and can shoot about average. He cannot dribble, his defense over the last five years is atrocious, he only plays a half court game on offense and rarely gets back on D, he flops more than any player, he travels a lot but so does most in this era, from former teammates, he’s terrible to play with, he’s a coach killer, and his best move at this point is his hands in the air complaining to the refs while the rest of his team is playing 4 on 5. He’s never been a true leader and he’s terrible in the clutch. He chokes.
You are my sunshine. My only sunshine. You make me happy, when sky's are gray
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just think about this, Lebron 10 years after the alleged end of his prime is still an elite player in the league
His Miami years was a fail. 3-6 before that*bubble title. Those results can't make you the Greatest. Grow up
Boycott NBA ahaha getting worse,
If the NBA officated Lebron by correct official authentic basketball rules as was and is with everyone ever except him he would average 10 points per games at best because he would get called for traveling, offensive fouls, carrying (the ball , have to explain that because Lebron fans don’t even know how to dribble let alone play basketball), ups and downs (another on for you newbs), Lebron playstyle is literally every violation in the basketball rules book. James Naismith is rolling in grave looking at how Lebron James and his son Bronny have destroyed his once great sport. Lebron deaded the entire sport of basketball not just the NBA but basketball itself, that is why his Lebron sneakers are always sold 50 percent off on the clearance rack in Marshall’s and Ross Dress For Less. I from the City of Los Angeles and he is an embarrassment to our city. We were the great Lakers then Lebron came they became Los Angeles Free Throw Takers because I stepped away from supporting Lakers until he leaves
I’m too lazy to read all this 😂
@@VibinHoops bum
No. Absolutely not. Dude has one move worth 70% of his total points, and it's 2 offensive fouls.
Yeah because you can become the All time leading scorer off of offensive fouls lol. appreciate greatness before its too late you will never see another player like lebron in your lifetime and you know that
Same people that cry that he wouldn’t last in the 80s/90s also cries all he does is offensively foul people. Pick an argument
@@swavysteals lebron is trash. The nba has been changing the rules to allow him to operate since he entered the league. I will be glad to never see a player like him again. He has been the face of the league in a period where the nba gets less popular every single year because the product is boring.
@LanceNoir both things can be true. All he does is commit offensive fouls against smaller players. In the 80s/90s there would have been someone bigger than him waiting to put him on his ass. He wouldn't have lasted ten years back then.
Wow , you don’t know ball, you don’t watch ball, your genuinely the biggest idiot I’ve ever seen comment , he has done EVERY move there is in basketball , every layup , every dunk , every mid range and three point shot, and he’s only gotten better at shooting. Your genuinely an idiot , and if you comment back I’ll violate you even worse just shut up.
No. He wasn't.
You are very delusional if you think that
Queen Nanny Goat he sucks top75 and dropping ! He wasn't dominate you named him chosen 1 so did Diddy!!!
He was so great bullying the weak eastern conference, with super teams
And Jordan was great bullying the watered down 90's lmao. 🤣
@Ghost-rb6cw media lies
@@ArisTalion weak eastern is also media lies and bias based on your logic 😂
@RandomGuy-h2v standings,finals results,players quality.those were my basis,not based on my personal opinions,FACTS!!!!
@@ArisTalion last time I check, Jordan never faced 2 MVPs on the same team and he never faced more Hof's or all star caliber players on the same team as lebron lol. Who was those historically great shooting guards that mj faced in the playoffs? Has Jordan ever faced a superstar that averaged 30+ ppg in a playoff series against him??? Noooo, has he faced more all nba players then lebron? No, and what I said ain't media lies sir, Larry bird said it himself, the league was diluted in the 90's, he said that. The basketball community is filled with a bunch of mj casuals that don't know how to talk the game and just go off on what they heard by goofy ex-basketball players & other casuals. 😆😆
He was really very good in his prime.
He is not the goat though. Many are saying he is not top5. I say I rank him at #4. He is a good defender,..., but just ranks 226th in defensive rating, ranks 44th in defensive box plus-minus.
He ranks 212th in RPG, 2nd in TOVPG among the top 10 GOAT players - worse than Larry Bird, far worse than Michael Jordan.
If you disagree, please, do expound he's the goat.
Your literally just fishing for people to debate you bro 😂
@mattsell2361
Please, do expound why you could say LBJ is the goat. Enumerate to us, all the proofs you have.
#ProveTheSportsWorldWrong
#ProveDwyaneWadeWrong
@@philipjavier1604 why are u hashtaging stuff lol
@mattsell2361
For the whole world to know if you really have a valid argument to say that Lebron deserves to be considered the GOAT.
Since you I don't see it, it is more correct to rank him 4th. If I'm going to put him 5th, it will depend on his performance, PER, BPM & winning percentage.
@philipjavier1604
He's number 1 by far. Stop the nonsense.
• #1 in regular season points
• #1 all time allstar points
• #1 in playoff points
• #1 in playoff steals
• #1 in playoff field goals
• #1 in playoff fts
• #1 in playoff games
• #1 in playoff minutes
• #1 in playoff wins (183)
• #1 in playoff series wins (41)
• #1 in playoff defensive rebounds
• #1 in playoff win shares
• #1 in playoff vorp
• #1 in playoff ows
• #1 in all nba teams
• #1 in allstar selections
• # 1 in all nba first team selections (13)
• #1 in mvp shares
• #1 in career assists by a forward
• #1 in career apg by a forward
• #1 in player of the week awards
• #1 in player of the month award
• #1 in finals triple doubles
• #1 in playoff buzzer beaters (5)
• #1 in single season bpm in the playoffs (17.53)
• #1 in single season playoff obpm
• #1 in playoff plus minus
• #1 in clutch shots
• #1 in playoff clutch shots
• # 1 in gamescore in the nba finals
• #2 in regular season field goals
• #2 in playoff assists
• #2 in playoff 3pm
• #2 in playoff triple doubles
• #2 in finals mvps
• #2 in finals points
• #3 in bpm
• #3 in playoff bpm
• #3 in obpm
• #3 in playoff obpm
• #3 in finals assists
• #3 in finals field goals made
• #4 in finals rebounds
• #4 in finals double doubles
• #4 in all time freethrows
• #5 in finals rebounds
• #5 in all time triple doubles
• #5 in dunks
• #6 in playoff double doubles
• #6 in playoff ppg
• #7 all time in ppg average
• #8 in all time 3pm
• #8 in all time steals
• #10 in playoff blocks
• #10 in regular season double doubles
• #10 in defensive rebounds all time
• Holds 4 of the top 10 gamescore in the nba finals
• More finals appearances than 27 different franchises
• Swept the most best of 12 series (7)
• Only player top 10 in 11 different categories
• Only player top 10 in every playoff stat
• Only player top 100 in every stat
• Only player with 3 finals mvps on 3 different teams
• Won 20 playoff series without a top 75 teammate
• Has the same amount of first team all nba selections as the next 3 best players of his generation
• #1 in 28 stats
• #1 in 13 playoff stats
• #2 in 4 playoff stats
• #3 in 2 playoff stats
• #4 in 2 playoff stats
• #6 in 1 playoff stat
• #10 in 1 playoff staf
• #2 in 7 stats
• #3 in 2 stats
• #4 in 3 stats
• #5 in 3 stats
• #6 in 2 stats
• #7 in 1 stat
• #8 in 2 stats
• #10 in 3 stats
• Top 10 in 51 stats
• Only player to lead both teams and all players in everthing in any playoff series
• Only player to be listed at all 5 positions
• Only player to be top 5-10 in points and assists in the regular season and playoffs
• One of five players in nba history to lead his team in every statistical category in the regular season.
• One of 7 players in nba history to win both a scoring title and an assist title.
• Has led his team in points, rebounds and assists 48 times in the playoffs (the next closes is bird with 13)
• Has led his team in points, rebounds, and assists in the nba finals 7 times
• Most 25ppg, 5apg, 5rpg seasons: 20
• Most consecutive double-digit games: 1,100+
• Only player top 10 in points, assists and steals
• Only player with 500 double doubles and 100 triple doubles
• Only non guard top 26 in apg
• Only forward top 49 in apg
• Highest scoring average for 3 different franchises
• One of three players to win finals mvps on more than one team
His Resume Reads:
• 40k points
• 11k rebounds
• 11k assists
• 4 mvps
• 4 championships
• 4 finals mvps
• 3 Finals mvps on 3 different teams
• 41 playoff series wins
• 183 playoff wins
• 20 all nba teams
• 20 allstar selections
• 6 all defensive teams
• 13 first team all nba selections
• Beat a 73 win team
• Beat a spurs team with 4 hof
• 3 time all-star game mvp
• IST Championship
• IST MVP
• Olympic MVP
• 41 playoff series wins (most in nba history)
• Most playoff wins
• Most playoff buzzer beaters
• Most clutch shots in the playoffs
• 40 player of the month awards
• 68 player of the week awards
• 20 seasons of averaging 25 ppg
• 27, 7 and 7 for a 21 year career
• Averaged 30, 8 and 6 in year 19
• Assist leader in 2020
🤣 the goat never. Dream teams entire career and even lost with those teams.🤣 if didn't have the genetics. Will have be just like bronny basic as hell. Bronny athletic like dad. Different is lebron was big doing it and bronny small but same game.
MJ was better
Lost too dallas with dream team. Avg 16pts. Lebron didn't make playoff with shaq,westbrook,camelo,davis,djordan,rondo,dwight.🤣 wizard jordan would won a trophy with that team.lebron stay in cleveland he be retired 10 yrs ago. Lebron have no rings. Jordan by far it not even close. Jordan won 3 trophy after daddy died,and retired for 2yrs. Won with a bulls team older then lakers lebron didn't make playoff with. Rodman was older then lakers entire team. Rodman was on crack,prostitute and kick off 2 teams. Jordan won 3 rings with the oldest team ever. Curry more credit then lebron. Lebron play with 3or4 players avg over 24+ on all his teams combined into 1team. Curry play with what he had. Dreymond willn't start on anyteam.klay,curry was sit bench for gs and they was all drafted. Ya'll call gs a damn superteam. Curry did the hard way. Not easy way like lebron. Won 2 rings before durant even arrive not that was a superteam.VS lebron who had a superteam with cleveland love,kyrie both avg over 24pts. Durant show you who the best player if he stay with gs in this era.Tmac,kobe,duncan,reggie. If tmac taken lebron route he have rings too.🤔
The most overrated athlete in the history of Sports.
Tom Brady is up there.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 So is TJ Watt
@ I don't think so. TJ Watt isn't considered the best of all time, just one of the best defensive players of this era.
@@donaldjgumpofficial5754 yeah and he absolutely sucks
@ He doesn't suck. He does get overrated but is also on a shitty team.
He has always been mid
Prime bron was as trash as it gets
Cry a river
1. Jordan
2. Kobe
3. Magic Johnson
4. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
5. Larry Bird
6. Tim Duncan
7, Shaquille O’Neal
8. Isiah Zeke Thomas
9. Dennis Rodman
10. Derek Fisher
11. Kevin Garnett
12. Hakeem Olajuwon
13. Charles Barkley
14. Karl Malone
15. Scottie Pippen
Lebron doesn’t even play basketball correctly and has a low basketball IQ, very low, Lebron flops, Lebron abuses performance enhancing drugs, he can’t dribble, his playstyle is boring and ugly to watch, he travels every offensive play, he is not better than anybody that I personally know, lebron is not better than random boys I pass by playing basketball with their friends, Lebron is not better than Anthony Davis, Lebron is not better than Quincy Olivari. Basketball died because Real Basketball Fans feel the same way as I do. The END
@unholyknights bro Derek fisher at 9?what are u on? I agree lebum isn't top 15 but Derek fisher
2 trolls letting their damaged brains dull the comments
lebum most overrated player ever!
LeHater hating on a mans legacy but numbers don’t lie