Top 10 HP Characters Who Could Have Been Sorted into a Different Hogwarts House
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Part of me would love to have seen Neville in Gryffindor, Harry in Slytherin, Ron in Hufflepuff and Hermione in Ravenclaw, the four houses standing up to Voldemort.
Neville was in gryffindor you dumbo
That would’ve been amazing
Neville is in griffindor
@@st3llarxo. I think he specified Neville so a member of each house is mentioned
that is exactly where they would be if rowling didnt put them all in the same house for the sake of convenience
"He was as brave as a gryffindor"
"He was as loyal as a hufflepuff"
"He was as wise as a ravenclaw"
"He was as cunning as a slytherin"
R.I.P Severus snape
R.I.P Alan Rickman
Both were legends that will never be forgotten...
Amen 🙏 to that 💚💚💚❤️❤️❤️💙💙💙💛💛💛
Severus Snape was all four houses personified! not a full hero but not a full villian morally grey inbetween. He is an iconic charactor that will never be forgotten and I hope future generation will see that long after the HP generation are long gone.
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rip :(
yes
Snape could have fit in any of the 4 houses. He is smart, inventing numerous spells. He was also a hard worker, learning everything he could during his education, and he was loyal to Lily. Of course, he was brave, being a double agent. And he was sorted into Slytherin, so he fits them all.
I never actually thought of that for Snape but ya your right he could have been in any of the 4 houses
Honestly, if you think about it, almost all characters have the traits of all the houses or at least a house that isnt theirs (with exception of few of course)
Not to mention how loyal he was to Dumbledore
Idk, I never thought he really fit as Slytherin tho. It would've made more sense if he was Ravenclaw/Gryffindor.
@@aRandomPolandBallfan true yes Snape had ambishon but he was extremely smart and brave
Bravery is when u r scared of something but u still face it...
Even though Ron was terrified of spiders, he still went with Harry and faced Aragog.
You're right. Besides, doing something dangerous without being afraid is just dumb.
EXACTLY 😅
I hoped someone would say that 😅
(Steph jimenez) yeah sometimes it is unbelievable when ur not scared and also it is SUPID AND DUMB
I was thinking the same thing. "Ron was scared of many things" But he still did them. he was still brave and faced his fear.
I have a few theories on why Hermione wasn't sorted into Ravenclaw.
1) it's not always about the traits you have, but the traits you value when being sorted.
2) She doesn't seem to think she's as smart as everyone thinks she is. She is always freaking out about failing.
3) She has just as many if not more Griffindor traits.
4) Despite having a good mind, she doesn't really have the spirit of a Ravenclaw. Like Luna's father said in Deathly Hallows. (Hermione is) "Not unintelligent, but painfully limited, narrow, closed-minded." For her if it's written in a book it's written in stone, otherwise it's not true. Personally, I think the reason she was so bitter of the Half-blood princes book was because she was jealous. This was someone who could not only learn from the books, but build on it. Someone who would experiment, innovate, try something new and original: something we've never seen her even attempt.
I've always said that people don't understand or misrepresent Ravenclaw and our traits. Sure we value wisdom but it's more the trait of one's eagerness to acquire knowledge and information. It's not about being the most intelligent but your thirst to understand the world around you and to think outside of what is given to you. This is why Lockhart was a Ravenclaw. He wasn't exceptionally smart but he found the loopholes and excelled at what interested him most. Hermione wasn't as accepting to knowledge that wasn't "hard facts."
Number 4 is soo on point
this is very well thought out and written
@@LucyKosaki thanks. I've had that on my mind for years
And maybe sometimes it could be being sorted into that house would help you build those other traits up more. Being sorted into that house doesn’t always mean you’ll fit into it or become successful in that house. Being sorted into ravenclaw she would’ve been too much in her comfort zone. Gryffndore helped her more with teamwork and how to be team player and how to rely on others
Harry first line about Snape: Who’s that?
Harry’s last line about Snape: The bravest man I’ve ever met.
Omg yess
He answered his own question
😂😂😂
Here’s a fact: The actor who played Albus Severus Potter, Harry’s son, at the end of Deathly Hallows Part 2 was also Baby Harry at the beginning of Philosopher’s/Sorcerer’s Stone
If Cedric didn’t die it would be great to see his bravery in the grand battle
Yes
That is the most true thing I’ve ever heard
He also would have joined Dumbledore's army aka Dumbledore's band of rebellious pupils in Order Of The Phoenix.
It still makes me mad that he died and even by worm tail
If I were Harry,I would willingly jump and take my life that way Cedric wouldn’t have died.A reason for this is that this would destroy one of Voldemorts horcruxes,and Voldemort likely would think that Harry would be dead,so he wouldn’t have a reason to kill Cedric,a lesser man.
I think the main reason why so many people seem to be put in the wrong house is because people are put into the house that has the traits that they _value,_ not necessarily the ones that they possess. The moment Hermione says that she is nothing but books and cleverness and that there are more important things, you know that she is not a Ravenclaw. Of the ones listed, I honestly think that Percy is the one who was most definitely sorted into the wrong house. If he wasn't a Weasley, he would have been a Slytherin.
I agree about Percy. He definitely is ambitious to a fault and will choose power and advancement over his family.
Also because they’re like 11 years old. Your personality isn’t fully developed at that age which is why I think many characters later on in life as they get older and develop more would be suited to different houses.
tbh we see percy when he is older, maybe he at 11 years old valued gryffindor traits more at that age.
@@raniaminhas3406 Dumbledore did say that he thought the hat sorted people prematurely, but we also find out that Neville begged to be a Hufflepuff because he didn't want the pressure, but by the time he's 15, we know for sure that he is meant to be a Gryffindor, but he just lacked confidence. It just doesn't seem like Percy ever really valued anything else.
@@denizkenger52 It's possible, but it seems to me like by the time we get to Ron, the sorting hat automatically puts every Weasley into Gryffindor. Considering that it worked for a very long time before, it just seems to me like it already decided Weasley=Gryffindor.
I've always had the head cannon that the Weasley family are the heirs of Godric Gryffindor and that's why the family has always sorted in that house
You know, that’s honestly an interesting theory. I’m not sure about it’s validity, but it’s one I could see.
It’s a good one but I doubt it’s true
@HannahBanana Godric being halfblood/ Muggleborn would explain why Salazar Slytherin hated him Imao
@@cazzabojangles "hated him" they were best friends before their falling out
@@zeeshanismail7768 Maybe it was a sneaky sneaky secret
Sirius could also fit in Hufflepuff, mainly for his loyalty to his friends, especially to James.
Someone theorized that the animal you turn into when becoming an animagus is not really a choice, but a reflection of what you are, and Sirius being a dog animagus indeed reflects his loyalty.
yeah, Peter being a rat makes sense as well then, but what would James being a stag mean then? 🤔
@@questrequested9171 I was intrigued by this, so I've done a little bit of research, and James's patronus being a stag makes a lot of sense.
Stags are often seen as signs of masculinity, maturity, instinct and royalty, (with the antlers on its head being a crown). I think this makes sence- he's mainly known as the father of Harry Potter, for running round with his boys and being lowkey sexist, which would be the masculinity, with the maturity being his development from his teenage years as well as his position as a father. For royalty, this could potentially relate to Gryffindor, where they're shown to hold similar values to medieval knights, to fight bravely, act chivalrously towards women/ the enemy and nerve on the battlefeild.
Also, in Christianity, they're known as "who tramples and destroys the devil", which could reflect how he stood up to Voldemort, where this intereaction also relates to instinct- he didn't have his wand, but he still tried to protect his wife and baby. Similarly, in Greek/ Roman/ Celtic (it's quite mixed up) mythology, they're a symbol for the goddess Artemis, (god of hunting and fertility) meaning "the powers in nature that are not easily subdued", with this again linking to his paternal instincts.
yeah and also the loyalty to remus when the maurauders found out he was a werewolf
@@cazzabojangles I think the royalty part has more to do with his father, Fleamont Potter, who became famous for developing Sleekeazy’s hair potion.
James did show some pride in his father on the train before his first year, saying he wants to be in Gryffindor like his father.
I agree that siruis could have been in Hufflepuff and I think Remus could have also been in Hufflepuff he's the kindest werewolf I remember seeing in and book, movie, and show.
Cedric is very brave, but I think his Hufflepuff traits such as his fair play are also key parts of his character. I've read that the sorting doesn't just base your house placement on your own qualities, but also the ones you value. Ultimately, I think that's why Cedric was put in Hufflepuff. We see in both book three and four that he values fair play, a major Hufflepuff trait.
yes! i always felt he was also a very loyal person. after harry told him about the task was gonna involved dragons, he saw harry as an ally and a friend and continued to helped him and return the favor in other tasks.
One thing I like thinking about with Cedric is that in the 3rd book (before we are even really introduced to him) Hufflepuff and Gryffindor had a quidditch match and Harry got attacked by the dementors and fell. While that happened Cedric caught the snitch, winning the game. but after Cedric found out Harry fell, he immediately asked if they can do a rematch when Harry was better. Cedric was all about being kind and fair.
@@vide0loverThat's what I was thinking! Cedric truly is a Hufflepuff 💛✨
i think fred and george could also be sorted into a different house.probably slytherin or ravenclaw,or maybe one of them in ravenclaw and one of them in slytherin,it'd be really chaotic and cool.they're actually intelligent and hard-working for coming up with all those products and really ambitious for not giving up on their dream even when molly threw all of their stuff into rubbish,they never gave up on the idea of the joke shop and they actually succeeded.
I agree.
I agree.
Yeah..
fred and george in slytherin? You gotta be kidding me.
No Gryfindor’s best for them
Something I've noticed in my most recent reading of Harry Potter is how the houses, more than line with personality, lines with personal growth. Ron was afraid of many things, but as a Gryffindor, he found strength to fight no matter his fears and became truly great, finding his purpose and bravery.
Hermione is truly smart and loves to learn, yet she is headstrong and close-minded, borderline rude and she was able to develop her emotional, social and mental skills, becoming her best self, ignoring the most wise decisions and becoming a fighter to her core. Not sure Ravenclaw would help her blossom as well as she did in Gryffindor...
I love this discussions, it just shows how deep Harry Potter is!!!! I love this series 😍 And your videos are awesome 👌🏻 💙
Well said.
just as the sorting hat stated that it chooses to place students where they can grow the most, not their comfort zones though Harry would be an exemption
I completely agree 💕
It is soooooooooooooooooooo deep!❤
@@tiberiusgrey1529 Yeah Harry was the only exception ofc
Dumbledore is a Slytherin. He is full of control, sly and cunning.
Harry and Ron I still find they fit Gryffindor as they sometimes do things with lots braveness less brain🤣
I agree.LESS BRAIN 🧠😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Harry figured RABs identity, Dumbledore's hints and location of the horcruxes( can't feel them in the books he did that with his intelligence), used a dragon to escape gringotts( in the books it was his idea), tricked the ministry workers, asked the ghost about the diadem( in the books it was his idea movies gave it to Luna) and so many more thinks and this was just the seventh year.
Harry is very smart in the books but the movies made him dumb to make Hermione shine.
I know right 😂😂😂😂
I think Harry belongs to all the houses because he has all the qualities of each house: Brave, Leadership, Curiosity, Loyalty.
True, I guess he *values* bravery most❤
You could say he is the avatar of the hogwarts houses.
What I’m wondering is why they don’t offer students the chance to re-sort. Third year of Hogwarts they get to start taking elective classes and go to hogsmade on the weekends. What if during the third year, they could choose to re-sort and the sorting hat can decide if they’re “grown out” their house in a way?
Even Dumbledore has said,
“You know sometimes I think we sort too soon.”
Why would they want to, though? Like, we fans tend to treat the Houses as a personality test, but for the students, it's their entire social circle. You live, sleep, study, eat with your House day in and day out. You are highly encouraged become invested in your House's collective success. Your House is, in return, supposed to have your back when it comes to the other Houses. Imagine that in Year Three, Hermione decided to resort and became a Ravenclaw. She would have to move to a new dorm, no longer interact with any of her close friends on a daily basis, wouldn't know any of the passwords, wouldn't know any of the social cues and customs. She'd go from being respected and well-thought-of within the Gryffindor circles to being a complete outsider and interloper in the Ravenclaw spaces.
Because it defeats the purpose of building deep connections and bonds within your house. Which house you are in doesn’t particularly matter, as the Sorting Hat presumably sees personal growth and likeminded people in that house for you, regardless of whether you fit into other houses as well.
They won't want yo
People change, especially during the teenage years, so I've really questioned this myself
I believe that Peter was only in Gryffindor because he wanted to hide behind the only people who could protect him(James, Remus and Sirius)
It is said that you can be played in a house whit traits u desire. That’s how Lockhart got into Ravenclaw. And that might be how Peter got in. Maybe he wanted to brave even if he wasn’t
@@twinshiftyt the sorting had didnt know where to put Peter (as evidenced by the fact it took him more than 5 minutes, maybe even 10 lol, i dont remember), because none of the houses fit him extremely well. the reason he is put in Gryffindor is because he had that one moment before his death of standing up to Voldemort because he was in Harry's debt, which is an extremely brave moment for him
Rowling claimed that Peter was in Gryffindor because he had chivalry, not bravery.
IIRC he was a hat stall which means the sorting hat couldn't figure out what house he belonged to. So it's likely since he befriended Remus on the train who got sorted to Gryffindor, he wanted to be with his friend so asked the hat to be placed there. That or maybe he wasn't the same coward when he was 11 since a lot could have happen over the year. Perhaps at the time he aspired to be brave and a hero but later realized that it was impossible for him.
@@vikkran401 it wasn't impossible at all. Look at Neville in the first books, does he look like a guy capable of giving the Carrows hell for a whole year, a guy who could stand up to Voldemort himself and pull the sword of Gryffondor out of the sorting hat? Maybe if Peter wasn't friend with 2 of the best and most popular kids in their year who always protected him and basically stopped every chance of Peter standing up for himself, he would have become a true Gryffondor. Plus, he was a great wizard, probably better than most of the Death Eaters, so I can picture him as a brave member of the Order
There is this great theory that the Sorting Hat doesn't put you in the house that fits your existing traits most, but in the house that you need the most for your development.
Exactly! It also takes your opinion into account.
I reckon Ron probably asked to be in Gryffindor, since his whole family went in Gryffindor and it is considered (rather falsely) to be the best house
You reckon wrong. He was brave so he got sorted into the house for the brave, period.
I agree with you that Gryffindor is falsely considered to be the best house. For my tastes, a lot of Gryffindors are too reckless which is not bravery or daring but stupidity. The Marauders, for example, or at least parts of them, were pretty arrogant, and I think that plays into that Gryffindor is the best house belief that is suggested to us in the books.
Tbh Hermione should’ve been in all of the houses, she was brave and daring, cunning and ambitious, loyal and kind and very very smart
She would never have been in Slytherin, as she was a muggle-born
@@danielpotapczuk2155 muggle burns have been sorted in slytherin its just very rare...
not slytherin and hufflepuff
@@lqvebraylon525 who?
@@denizkenger52 they are unknown but j.k confirmed
Maybe a younger pettigrew showed some early signs of bravery or some other trait. Of course as he grew older he obviously didn’t reach his potential. Although in the books he did save Harry which would cost him his life
I think it's a case of the fact that the sorting hat doesn't just look at qualities possessed, it see's your thoughts and desires as well. Peter was obsessed with James Potter, it's possible that he really wanted to be brave, chivalrous, etc but struggled to exhibit those attributes.
Well he was actually brave enough to betray the most powerful sorcerer of all time
I been thinking the same. I think Peter is such a underrated character, there's a lot of history around him that we don't know and I think there's most be something in there that make him change that way (I'm not justify him, I'm just saying). But, anyways, I don't think he's dead was something "brave" he just felt guilty for everything he done to James (just like Snape with Lily) but by far that doesn't make any of them brave
Honestly I would love to see a fanfiction where Snape was a Gryffindor and Harry was a Slytherin and see how that would have played out.
facts
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Intriguing plot idea
8:19 absolutely agree with you there, I've always thought Dumbledore with his cunningness and manipulative skills could have been sorted into Slytherin. Seeing Fantastic beast's Qilin bowing down to him because his heart is the purest made no sense to me.
It's funny because the 3 main characters all kinda seem to represent 3 different houses, none of which are Gryffindor
True, but the thing that people tend to forget is that the Sorting Hat doesn't assign you based on your talents, but what you value. Luna is also very brave, but is she anything other than a Ravenclaw?
It would of been interesting to see this story played out with harry having a friend or mentor from every house. That way the houses all get more a bit more respect instead of most people, not all, instantly rooting for Gryffindor.
I agree, but Harry had a Hufflepuff friend, Tonks obviously. Both Tonks and Cedric are almost as respected as Gryffindors, and so is Severus Snape, who was never Harry's friend, just harry's least favorite professor. But that's only three people, and I wish the other three houses could be rooted for and respected more. Hufflepuffs are not weak and Ravenclaws don't only care about education and Slytherins are not always bad. I didn't instantly root for Gryffindor, I was rooting for Ravenclaw in the very beginning of the first book (I looked on google to see what the houses were). Then I started rooting for Slytherin once I made it to the end of the first book because I love green and Herpetelogy plus I seem to like the characters that have change of hearts. ALSO, (alert for big offense to J. K. Rowling) how can Harry Potteh say 'sLyThErIns are GoOd' to Albus in the beginning of The Cursed Child when J. K. Rowling didn't even put any good examples of very good Slytherins?? That was a very sudden thing to hear. :O
Despite being a Ravenclaw, I always felt that Hufflepuff would have been a more suitable house for Luna. She is known for having a very kind and non-judgemental personality. She's also always full of positivity and does her upmost to cheer people up like a good friend should. She's also very loyal to the people she cares about and has a strong moral compass. That was why she joined the DA and fought with the Wizarding community against Voldemort because it was the right thing to do and because her friends needed her. At the very least she ended up marrying a Hufflepuff in Rolf Scamander (Newt's grandson). Interestingly enough Neville who could have also being sorted into joined Hufflepuff married Hannah Abbot who was from that house.
I agree with the list, and here are my honorable mentions:
*NEVILLE* would obviously make a good Hufflepuff,
*LILY* would have been a solid Ravenclaw,
*LUNA* would also fit into Gryffindor,
*CORMAC MCLAGGEN* gives strong Slytherin vibes,
and finally
*REGULUS* (underrated character!) turned out to be more of a Gryffindor than Slytherin!
Regulus changed his ways later though
My theory on the sorting hat is that it doesn’t necessarily sort students based on the traits you possess, but also considers the ones they value or aspire to. Like if it needs a deciding factor, it takes the students desires into account. That’s how you get cowards who wish they were brave (Pettigrew) in Gryffindor, and fools who wish they were smarter (Lockhart) in Ravenclaw. This would be especially prevalent in cases like Hermione, who despite being smart enough to be in Ravenclaw, but aspires to be courageous, ends up in Gryffindor.
Snape with his dedication to knowledge and skills could have done well in Ravenclaw too.
I 100% agree with this one!
For Harry potter. He has a few traits of slytherin.
He's a great leader, with running the DA as the professor and leading his friends.
He shows ambition. As he focus an taking down voldermort for everyone's safety even breaking up with Ginny.
He's incredibly resourceful as he able to get out of tricky situations like in the chamber of secrets, the triwizard tournament and others like in the deathly hallows.
He's also cunning as he succeeded all of the difficulty in his way.
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I definitely agree 👍
Severus Snape would have also been a good fit for Ravenclaw. He prized intelligence and learning above anything else, he was creative, and he certainly had wit. Also I think he had Gryffindor traits even as a child, he had nerve and was bold shown when he confronted Lily about being a witch, he was brave in the fact that he didn’t fear being different and stood up for himself when he was being insulted and fought to get to his wand even as James and Sirius were magically restraining him, and even waited outside the enemy camp to try to apologize to a girl he insulted.
For me I disagree with Snape. For me I would sort him into Ravenclaw not Gryffindor or Slytherin
I agree. He never striked me as someone who was particularly cunning or ambitious. He wasn't gunning for Dumbledore's job, despite wanting to be DADA professor. But he was very intelligent, being able to invent new spells while still a student at Hogwarts and even came up with new innovative ways to perfect old potions recipes. He would have been a perfect Ravenclaw.
@@barbiquearea He wanted to be a part Slytherin before he got there. At least in the beginning, he valued the Pureblood ideology of the Slytherin house. And before you point to his love for Lilly, it is not common for people who believe in a doctrine of supremacy to make exceptions for people they know personally who aren't like those _others,_ so this is entirely consistent with that. Referring to her by that eight-letter slur in anger proves it. I do think he ultimately got past that, but he definitely fit where he went.
I Would Like To See Something Like This Getting Made Like Imagine If Hermione Was In Ravenclaw Hope Someone Try’s To Make That
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think she is very Ravenclaw. All of her knowledge comes from reading and studying enough that it sticks. She is very closed minded and not creative or original, which are Ravenclaw's biggest traits aside from intelligence. She is very brave and has a deep desire to do the right thing (spew for example) and can be stubborn. She wants to learn enough to have her moment when Ron and Harry need her. Ravenclaws love knowledge and learn things purely for entertainment.
i would love a full-fledged fanfiction on if all 3 of the golden trio got sorted into Slytherin/Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw respectively!
@@snippyhera Also she's very analytical and by the book. She might have struggled getting into the Ravenclaw common room since the password is always a riddle.
@@barbiquearea yeah, that's a great point!
@@JuanMataCFC How would that work, though, given how much the houses define your interactions and social circles in Hogwarts?
*A realization moment*
The Brave people are the likes of Ron and Neville, the one who is able to get over thier fears
and I didn't get the impression that Harry was like them, he's definitely bold and fearless but his behavior and his way of taking risks and not caring make me think that the source of his audacity is that He doesn't care whether he lives or dies
He lived for 10 years hearing that he is worthless , so no wonder his character is indifferent to the amount of terror and danger in front of him
*this is really sad because this a trait he has in common with Sirius*
Ron is not loyal enough to be a Puff
Sure
He is loyal to his friends especially Harry, like when Harry tried to leave the Borrow in the Deathly hallows part 1, it was Ron that stopped him, it was Ron that encouraged him in the Dealthy hallows part 2. He is loyal in the chamber of secrets he faces Malfoy when he underestimates Hermione by calling her you know what. Ron is loyal and could be great in Hufflepuff
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for me i think bravery is to do something in spite of fear. so for me, Ron was way more brave in regards to the spiders than Harry was.
I think Luna Lovegood could’ve been a Gryffindor, she’s smart and curious yes, but she’s also brave and courageous and chivalrous. She shows all of those when she goes with Harry to the Department of Mysteries, and she’s brave enough to be herself, even though others tease her
Isn't she a Gryffindor
@@akhilpillay4262 no she’s a Ravenclaw
All good points. I would say though that Luna’s main trait is that she’s wise, albeit in a weird way, which makes her a perfect fit for Ravenclaw.
@@RJMiller73 I get that, but I really feel she would've shined even brighter as a Hufflepuff 💛
Yes Luna is brave but she has more Ravenclaw traits because she is very smart, clever, and creative.
I think that all this video proves is that people have many layers. And the sorting system was never meant to be perfect, but rather to allow overlap amongst the houses and get close to getting like-minded young wizards together.
Morgan’s content is so in depth and is always great!!!
Great, interesting topic for a video. Pretty much agree with every alternate house option. I also liked the video style you did for the ad. That was really well done
I feel like hufflepuff’s are well known as being brave in their own way. They always fight for what’s right and for the people they care about. That is bravery. I don’t think bravery can only be attributed to gryffindor
Ya even on pottermore when I was sorted it said unafraid to toil and that like the badger we know how to protect ourselves,our fam and our friends
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I mean I think Ron is brave becuz I would have left my friend in the forest with those spiders
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"And he's breaking the rules of course." Said Hermione 😂😂😂
🤣Me too
Watching this I think it would be really amusing if the main trio actually comes from different houses. Gryffindor/Slytherin + Hufflepuff + Ravenclaw.
I feel that could have been really fun to see. Though it could make story progression kinda difficult.
What could have been more clearly explained in the series, but is made pretty clear there, is that what one *values* weighs heavily into house selection, sometimes as much or even more than one’s apparent traits. Hermione, for example, values bravery even more highly than intelligence (and she tells us as much.) Neville admires bravery above all else as well. Both Hermione and Neville aspire to be brave, and become brave. Being in Gryffindor works out for them in this sense. Slughorn’s Slytherin traits are milder than many, but he *highly* values ambition in others. I suppose the dark side of this is Wormtail, who valued bravery entirely because of his own lack of it, because he felt like he needed strong, brave people around to protect him. This meant that Peter was naturally inclined to want to be among people like Gryffindors, and thus that’s where the hat put him. This character trait ultimately overshadows everything else in Peter’s personality, and for better or for worse, his experiences as a Gryffindor help his personal development as well. He learns to lessen his cowardice, and cope with it (in pretty horrible ways) by living among the brave. It was basically the best house, for him, that he could have been sorted into.
Indeed. That is why it's a little frustrating to see the arguments based on the surface. Of the ones listed, I could really only think of one that was definitely put in the wrong house: Percy. (Although it might be my Ravenclaw bias, but I think that the argument for Lockhart as a Slytherin was pretty strong one, because a fame chaser like him does seem to value traits of the green and silver.) Most of the others can clearly be seen as valuing the traits of their actual houses.
@@wvu05 to be honest, I never really questioned Lockhart's placement... he considered himself smart (out of ego) and presented himself outwardly as such. So when he was sorted, he thought ok Ravenclaw = smart, chose it out of ego, and the hat complied, maybe thinking that he would do better in a house that prized learning instead of just skating by. His teachers said he was actually very clever naturally, but never made something of himself because he was lazy and didn't want to learn much.
As for Percy, his family values and wanting to be brave like his brothers and parents might have played a role. I think he also had a lot of Slytherin traits, but chose Gryffindor traits instead because his family wasn't really the most accepting of his drive sometimes. When your entire family is in the same house, sticking out from them might be very awkward.
@@kertanrajpal6108 The way you worded it kinda sounds like you're thinking the student chose the house. The closest to that I can see to a student choosing is Harry not wanting Slytherin. Neville begged for Hufflepuff to take the pressure off, but the hat refused. I wasn't saying that I thought Lockhart was wrong, just that next to Percy, he was the closest to it. The traits that Percy valued are clearly Slytherin traits. That one just seems like a case of the hat putting him where he was because of his name.
Funny you sorted Cedric into Gryffindor because as soon as you described fair-play being a Hufflepuff trait, I thought of Cedric. In PoA, he called for a rematch after the dementors attacked Harry, and in GoF, he repaid Harry's tip about the dragons by hinting that he should open the egg underwater.
Every time I see a notification for your Harry Potter videos I get reminded that I need to do my yearly series rewatch. Probably gonna wait until winter for the feel but every time I finish it’s a depressing feeling where I wish I could be in that world instead of this one as a college student lol
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I feel like that Tonks would fit into Gryffindor nicely as she was very brave, as she fought in the Battle of Hogwarts and died as she wanted to help fight too. She was chivalrous as she wanted to help Molly and protect Harry. And also, she was an auror and you have to be quite brave for that. She is very loyal and hardworking. That's probably why she is in Hufflepuff. By the way, what Hogwarts house are you in Movieflame?
I think that the Sorting Hat also takes into account where other students have been placed and how each person would likely do in each house. That might explain why some characters are given the houses that they want (like Harry), and others seem to have been placed to please their family or where they’re likely to make the most friends.
Bravery is not the absence of fear. It is the ability to overcome fear. And Ron easily shows these traits easily. I personally think that Hermione is truly a Gryffindor because one: Hermione is truly brave and values bravery more than she does smarts since smarts are just one of her traits and not her whole person and two: I think personally that a Ravenclaw is a house where you have to think outside the box to be in.
You're right. Besides, doing something dangerous without being afraid is just dumb.
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Great video! The sorting ceremony always takes place on the 1st of September! Happy back to Hogwarts day! 🚂 🦉 🪄
Y'know I can't help but think the Sorting hat plays some kind of important role in setting up certain possibilities by putting them in certain houses like if Snape was sorted into Gryffindor he most likely wouldn't have been able to get so close to voldemort and then events would have played out very differently etc etc.
It's also possible that the Marauders would have been a tad nicer to him. Sirius and James would have probably still despised him, but because of house loyalties, they would have treated him better. That could have taken a lot of Snape's resentment away. He also, probably, wouldn't have slithered into the Death Eater circle as a Gryffindor (Yes, Pettigrew became one as well, but only because he is a weak character; Snape is stronger, and if he'd have had more support, he would have stayed on the side of light).
@@claudiag8823 had to reread what I wrote a few times there to understand what this was all about xD.
For his loyalty to Lily until his own very end maybe Severus Snape could be Hufflepuff because he also work hard to bè loyal to her and to Dumbledore too
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I remember reading somewhere that the Sorting Hat put you where you had the most potential. Or at least tried too when you weren't asking to be put somewhere specific lol.
Peter Pettigrew had the potential to be brave but he chose not to. Gilderoy Lockhart had the potential to be extremely intelligent but was lazy and entitled, just expecting people to already know who he was because his mother spoiled him.
It's really quite fun to think about various characters and why they were put in the house they were.
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I feel like Dumbledore could have also been in Ravenclaw, too. He is very smart and was able to figure out Voldy's horcruxes when no one else (well, besides Slughorn) could have even GUESSED that. 😉 (Also, kinda funny that this video got posted on September 1st; did you plan that, Morgan?! Haha! 😅 Happy #BackToHogwartsDay2022, everyone!! 😃👓⚡)
Regulus Black did that too
@@Lowetofft Oh yeah I forgot but did he know about all 6 (or 7) or just the one ☝🏻?? I’m not sure he knew about ALL of them … 🤔
4:13 what if the hat sensed voldemorts horcrux. The part of voldemort that lives in him
lived*
I don't think so, you have to remember that Harry is the son of James who has some Slytherin traits such as "breaking the rules, sneaking at night, deception, cunning" and add to that that Harry grew up in an abusive home and wanted to prove himself when he first arrived in Hogwarts but because of Ron and Hagrid's talk about Slytherin's house he retreated and chose the house that seemed to include good people, even Dumbledore said that Slytherin would appreciate Harry as a student in his house
There are plenty of moments that prove that Harry is cunning." When he freed Dobby, when he pretended to have poured the liquid luck into Ron's cup, when he told Griphook he would hand him the sword but he didn't specify exactly when and his intention was when they finishes their mission
I agree on all points, great work as always 👍
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HarryPotterFolkore's got 5 vids on What If the Golden Trio (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) were in their different houses separately, and 1 together, and another of a longer one on Harry. Cedric was brave enough for Gryffindor, but I just can't c him in anything other then Hufflepuff as he showed fairness in both the books and movie more. Anyone can b brave when they find it within and bring it out.
I think for Newt, if it wasn't Hufflepuff, he would be in Ravenclaw. Because he's showed he's very smart, curious, learns a lot throughout the three Fantastic Beast films and his wisdom helps even the likes of Dumbledore.
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I’m a Slytherin, but it honestly makes me mad how forgotten Hufflepuff and Ravenclaw are. It’s like, Cedric has one book where he is like, hardly a main character and then before you know it, he’s dead! It’s really unfair.
I disagree on Wormtail. He doesn't really fit in any house. He isn't brave, he isn't smart, he isn't loyal, and he isn't cunning. He's just an opportunist, I guess Slytherin would be his most fitting but as a Slytherin myself I don't want him in my house 😂
I get why Rowling put all 3 of our main trio in Gryifyndor as she wanted to keep them pretty close, especially seeing how at the end of the Sorcerers Stone that they're deeds along with Nevile's is what won them the House Cup, but I honestly think she relinqushed a golden opportunity to add more drama and delima if she had all 3 of them in different houses. I would have had Harry still in Gryfindor, Ron in Hufflepuff, and Hermione in Ravenclaw.
Great Video and yeah I can see how these characters could be sorted differently, but I think the hat takes into account how they are at the time of the sorting when they are young and still trying to figure out who and what they wanna be. It can only see what is there at the time and now what could or will be there in the future, also like with Harry it does take their choices into account. For example Ron and Percy both knew their whole families had always been Gryffandor's and would have wanted to be in the house just out of a sort of family tradition.
Could these be fun ideas?:
1: "What if Gryffindor didn't exist?":
Sort all students from Gryffindor into Slytherin, Hufflepuff or Ravenclaw.
For example:
Peter Pettigrew: Slytherin
Rubeus Hagrid: Hufflepuff
Hermione Granger: Ravenclaw
2: "What if Hufflepuff didn't exist?":
Sort all students from Hufflepuff into Ravenclaw, Gryffindor or Slytherin.
For example:
Cedric Diggory: Gryffindor
3: "What if Ravenclaw didn't exist?":
Sort All Students from Ravenclaw into Hufflepuff, Slytherin or Gryffindor.
For example:
Gilderoy Lockhart: Slytherin
Barty Crouch Jr.: Slytherin
Quirinus Quirrell: Slytherin
4: "What if Slytherin didn't exist?":
Sort all students from Slytherin into Gryffindor, Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff.
For example:
Severus Snape: Gryffindor
Bellatrix Lestrange: Hufflepuff (Becouse She's loyal to the Dark Lord until the very end.)
I think Luna Lovegood from the books she really does love her friends that she made in the DA meetings and that is one of the reasons why she was there for Harry he went to the Department of Mystery she was very loyal and brave
Thanks! Interesting as always ☺️
However, I must come with an objection; Ron going into the Forbidden Forest with Harry, in spite of his arachnophobia is incredibly courageous! You are not brave if it's more or less effortless. It's when you put one feet in front of the other although your heart is pumping like the bass in a house track, that's courage.
wow!!! this is soooo accurate!!! enjoyed this video immensely!
The important thing to take note of is that the sorting hat doesn't sort you by what traits you have but by what you value. In the case of Peter petergrew he definitely was not brave or anything that a Gryffindor should be but he valued those traits. That's why he looked up to Sirius and James so much. They were his heroes.
I feel like tonks could have been a gryffindor, since she is really brave and gave up her life with her newborn just to defeat voldemort.
Same thing
I think the reason why Hermione was put into Gryffindor instead of Ravenclaw, is because most of her knowledge comes from books, Meanwhile a lot of the time Ravenclaws use information around them, and Wisdom from experience etc
😊 In short, Her knowledge relies on books, and Ravenclaws have a much wider range of knowledge bc they don't have to rely on just books.
Ron was very much the hufflepuff of the trio, hermione the ravenclaw and Harry the slytherin. But they were all gryffindor.
It just works.
I know right
A lot of characters have traits of other houses. But if I am not mistaken it also takes in consideration what they value more. They might have more traits from Slytherin, but value their traits of Gryffindor. Its never black and white. Just cause they check more boxes in 1 house doesn’t mean they belong there if they value their other traits more I believe.
Love the vid. It is fun to speculate what could have been :)
Another one could be Andromeda Tonks. She could have been a Gryffindor as she stood up to her family and their pureblood beliefs, and married a muggleborn. Plus you could argue this shows basically all the other traits griffindors have.
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I also think Nevile should have maybe been in Hufflepuff
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percy guy took the " duty first , family next " saying to the next level lol
This is the first video I’ve ever watched with you in it
Some of the things I thought of were that Snape could also have been a Ravenclaw. He was curious and very intelligent. Luna could have been a Gryffindor for her bravery or a Hufflepuff for her loyalty.
Gryffindor
-Snape
-Cedric
Hufflepuff
-Ron
-Hagrid
Ravenclaw
-Hermione
Slytherin
-Lockhart
-Harry
-Percy
-Dumbledore
-Peter
A solid half of this list was characters who could be in Slytherin.
Ron also has a bit of Ravenclaw in him, he is very witty and smart in chess strategies
No kidding although I was a master checkers and chinese checkers at age 12, I wasn't as good at chess as Ron until I was 15.
when you said Ron it made me laugh so much because me and my brother always say, "Hermione figures out stuff, harry does stuff, and Ron's moral support" XD
I think Luna lovegood could have been a Hufflepuff
Idk, she is very loyal and loving but her creativity and originality shines brightest.
@@snippyhera I still think ravenclaw fits but I think Hufflepuff would definitely be second choice
@@dinooo64yt23 I definitely agree!
I agree with you on every single one besides from Harry. Neither in the books nor on the movies I can see any sign that he'd do well in slytherin. Harry is the definition of gryffindor.
I came looking for unanimous anger. The books and movies kept painting the Slytherin possiblity. But he showed none of it. He never put himself first. He didn't have great ambition. He never thought much about the future other than Voldemort. And in facing his own death cemented his courage and bravery. He was a Griffin's or through and through.
One of the few things I dislike about Harry Potter is how the members of Slytherin House are represented and
depicted in such a negative light. From Hagrid's statement in the first book to some of this video's speculations (i.e. Lockhart and Pettigrew, two of the few non-Slytherin antagonists, possessing many Slytherin traits), I think the books should've had more Slytherins who were outright good (maybe a Slytherin counterpart to Hermione who enjoys helping other students with their homework) or gave Slytherin House more positive traits instead of more morally neutral ones.
About Pettigrew...his wand is a snake too