All You Need is Melodyne Essential
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2023
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Melodyne is much more than autotune. It's an incredible tool.
@ErixSamson So true!
As a 73 year old who began writing and home recording rough demos on a 2 track Sony reel to reel tape recorder in the 60's, I was pretty reluctand to even consider what I thought was 'cheating'. I've now changed my mind and even though it suggests it could mean a massive learning curve it also sounds as if it could be an amazing experience.
Melodyne can do so much. We've fixed one out of tune string on an acoustic guitar that no one noticed until we recorded the companion instruments. Why wouldn't you use a tool like that?
Delaying the harmony track by 20-30ms gets rid of the phase issues...
Will give this a try
Or you can just invert the phase… @dreamsongsproductions
Great tip, thanks!
^^^ both tricks work well. Just listen to what feels & sounds like your vision
I’ve noticed people who hate autotune, will listen to an artist live, and when people complement them, they will just say it’s because of autotune and they can’t actually sing, and the artist is not using any autotune 😂 that happens all the time… then people say, why can’t you just be as good as a vocalist as Michael Jackson or Freddie Mercury or Elton John. Yeah let’s just all be as good as the top 10 greatest of all time… I listen to Post Malone live acoustic set and people keep talking about autotune on his voice, and I literally hear so many notes out of tune! It’s like people saying autotune is the devil are also tone deaf. Yeah, no wonder you guys don’t think you need autotune because you can’t hear pitch. 😂
Best Melodyne tutorial I've seen on UA-cam. Well organised, easy to follow and genuinely helpful. Thanks man!
Thanks Joe!
Hey, Joe, a couple of times I've used Melodyne on a piano part (since it had good transients) and created a MIDI track with it. Then I put a different kind of virtual keyboard on that and blended (mixed) the two together. It was pretty cool.
So I knew almost everything in this video. But the reason I knew this was I'd watched earlier videos that Joe had made telling me how to use Melodyne. It was good to (1) get a refresher, (2) get the positive reinforcement that I did remember earlier lessons, and (3) learn that I had stumbled into using Joe's second method when I was mixing.
Thanks Joe for these lessons. They are so valuable to me. I really, really appreciate how much you've helped my ability to record and mix. The fact that I use Studio One makes your videos even more valuable.
This is great Joe 🔥🤙🏼
I am very impressed with your delivery, so natural and no gimmicks. We don't use the same DAW, but I am going to check out some of your videos on plugins that we all use. Thanks for this...GOD Bless!
Hello Joe, I have been using Melodyne for a few years now and it was good to see how you use it. Your videos have really helped my mixes, great stuff!!
Awesome :) thanks, Joe
Excellent video!!!
Great video! Thanks!
Joe , I thank you for all your talented help you have put out on UA-cam. You are Awesome! A very kind and rare person for these days! Keep doing what you do cause you do it best \,,/
Ooooo, I really like your voice! 😃
hey man i've caught a bunch of yr vids. really great channel. love your presentation & attitude. always informative, never condescending. great resource, especially for Studio One users.
The perfect tutorial about Melodyne! Thanks Joe
I found this video really clear and straightforward, plus I appreciated the very practical angle you took. I really learned something, fast and simple.
thanks for the great video!
Thanks Joe. Very brave to track a vocal and then let us watch you tweak! I use Melodyne, but sparingly, and exactly for the reasons you describe.
This is amazing, thanks so much for uploading this!! Originally used Melodyne 3.1! LOL This is a very handy upload and great clear instructions!!
Just got Melodyne bundled with Studio One, and haven't even tried to use it yet. Your video helps a lot in understanding Melodyne's potential. Thanks
I downloaded your 5-step mix. Thank you!
If you go to the menus at the top left there is an option to add deviations (low - med - high) to pitch and timing that helps is sound more natural as it is done randomly
Wow! Didn't know that feature! Thanks!
Great Tutorial!
Brilliant video. Just the right amount of education, to the point and fun. Thanks so much.
I'm looking at some tuning plugins because of sales going on right now, and this came up in a search when I didn't type anything about Melodyne. But now I'll add it to my list of options. Thanks!
Thanks for this - really good tutorial, I've just switched over to Melodyne so having a really simple and straightforward video like this has been brilliant!
Great video tutorial !
I've been watching your videos since I got my first Daw and Audio Interface 2 years ago, In my opinion, you are the best instructor out of everyone on UA-cam and you make me laugh in every video, Keep them coming!! "Sorry Microphone" 😂
Great video! Thanks for being so easy to follow! Liked and Subscribed! 😃😃🎻🎻
Really helpful! Thanks Joe! Still learning Melodyne, but completely agree with not landing with a robotic sound. Just tweak what's needed and not overdue it - unless that's the intention.
Joe Gilder, man I just LOVE our lessons, I've learned alot from you. Keep up the good work. "Bac-Do' Studio, Lawton, Oklahoma
Excellent Tutorial Joe ! More practical way to use Melodyne. Thanks.
Very helpful, thank you.
The best part of this for me was learning how to quickly split a blob! That’s great. I find that when you tune the sibilance part, it makes it weird and phasey sounding. Which only gets highlighted even more after compression.
Very nice video!Lot's of info. I just started with Melodyne in S1 6.5 Pro.
1) you don't need to use the alt key to move the blobs, just disable the snap to grid (little note in the upper right of the window)
2) when harmonizing you can move slightly the blobs right or left (randomly) to give a more natural back voices effect
Great video thx
Wow...your vocal on this beat is a killer even before fine-tuning it
Love melodyne. It repairs phrasing issues too! If your singer comes in a bit late you can nudge the first word forward a bit. And if they dont hold a note long enough you can stretch it out like the time stretch function. AND! it works on other instruments too!! For example if your bass player ( I'm not picking on you) hits a bad note it can be fixed!!
Melodyne assistant will give you some more controls that are really useful. 😊
Thank you for this. Interesting to hear the contrast between your radio voice that you use for narration and where you take the bass out of your voice for your vocals. A live example of choosing the right tool for each job. Seriously thinking of giving Melodyne a try.
¿What about using Melodyne MIDI output to double vocals with instrument sounds? I think that's only available in certain versions of Melodyne.
Yay no more rounded corners on the video😁 thanks Joe, as always super educational...
Hey Joe, just a quick tip to piggyback off your octave up/down doubles: The further you tune a pitch away from the original, the more it can help to adjust the formant of that blob as well - it can help retain more of a natural voice (a la "throat" in Autotune)
Me last week, maybe I should try and have fun with that audio to midi thing with melodyne !! Then realize how powerful melodyne is or can be but I just never use it even if its fascinating me every time I use it. Just never gave it a deep dive into it. I'm gonna start learning it, def should be ! Amazing tool and free... thanks Presonus !! Then I get a notification that Joe Gilder posted a new video and I see this !! Perfect, I'll never thank you and gregor enough for all your work, videos, tips and tricks and more and more... you guys are amazing for beginner like me !! Thanks man !!
Thank you
Dude! This was so awesome. I'm an old Melodyne user but this was so helpful. Thank you!
What made you switch
@@JVJF7 Oh, hey! What I meant to say was, I am a long-time Melodyne user who thought he knew everything about Melodyne! Joe's video was helpful showing me new steps and stuff that I didn't know. Rawk on!
Joe is not just Joe, Joe is the man of the smart people
I have Melodyne but never used it. Looks like it could be a fun thing to mess with. And a practical tool. It was part of the Mixcraft package I bought in 2017.
"Sorry, Mike" surely? ;) Nice video, thank you.
Very cool! 💪🏻👏🏻👍🏻🙏🏻
Good job on this video. I work with musicians at the highest
level. And if needed THEY DO this themselves and send me back the track for mixing. But again, you did an excellent job here.
I have owned melodyne for years, sometimes when they have a sale, I upgrade so now I have one level left to the top level. Having polyphonic capability is nice.
melodyne is cool but don’t think it’s fair to say it’s just like doing eq or something
Cutting out lows or something the mic picked up can make the recording sound more like what the vocal actually sounded like in the room
Using melodyne by nature is changing the performance to sound better and different than what the vocalist did
Like if you heard a vocal recorded and then heard a good eq’d version the next day you’d be like yup that’s about how it sounded
If you heard a vocal recorded and then it was pitch corrected and had a melodyne harmony added you’d say wow that sounds way different that what we heard yesterday
Great video! Thank you so much Joe! One question...If you double your vocals and use that secondary vocal to pitch to harmony, would that eliminate some of the phasing issues?
also, you can use Melody with instruments! and do same chorus effects and other awesome & more advance things!
Melodyne is great.. I use it all the time.
I do high harmonies of my voice. Then get my partner to copy the harmony.. works every time..
I just used Melodyne for something different. I'm using a sample for a dance song, and I could NOT get it to line up right with my measures. I don't know why. I opened it up in Melodyne, along with my beat. I was able to see the blobs better, and lined it up perfectly. While I was there, I made several note changes, which sounds better than using the up/down tune in my DAW. Melodyne helped immensely with my current project!!!
Greattt❤❤
Joe your spot on, it’s just another tool. For example when I record a vocal sometimes I’ve got everything except the grit, the energy, the tone, the inflection and the pitch, but other than that everything’s there. I can use Melodyne to bring my vocal from -20% up to +10%. 😊👍🏼
Awesome.....
I use melodyne.... but the second method.
I'll definitely experiment next time
Great tutorial, prolly the best about melodyne. One thing I strugle the most is when there is a fry in the beginning of a phrase and still don't know what to do
We need to tune vocals even if you have relatively good pitch, because of electronic music. All VSTs are dead on 100 percent perfect pitch. Vs the old days with live instruments, if the singers natural vibratos had some slight patchiness, it wouldn’t be detected.
Very true
I like your sense of humor when fixing the 'iffy' notes sung, knowing full well there's a bit of cheating involved and like me (I guess) I've been a hard core opposite fence rider when it came to auto tune. But, indeed, using it as an effect and not going completely ape shit turning the effect knob to eleven, like a lot of artists use nowadays, it does have its moments. So I might just sleep on it one more time and who knows, I might have to invest in the 5essential for starters. Thanks mate great vid.
I also use it to explore melody options.
Great Video. Little Tip... If you doubleklick in Melodyne it always plays solo and if you want to listen with music you just hit the spacebar. 😉
Cool
Hi Joe. Is this one of the songs we would mix in your course? Awesome song.
Hi Joe, I have been watching your channel for years and enjoy learning stuff from you. I wanted to make a comment about a professor of mine in audio school who made this statement. In order to compete in modern audio industry it is almost imperative to use pitch correction even if the song "does not need it". Because everyone uses it in pro studios. It has become a standard people are use to hearing. Because people are used to the sound if a mixer does not use it their tracks are going to sound sub par to industry standard. I almost always do a blanket tuning but I will only correct it about 75% instead 100% even if the track does not need it. It always sounds more in tune somehow and mixes sound better. Any thoughts.
Your demo on Melodyne with Studio One convinced me to just give up on the demo version and buy the danged plugin. --- Thanks... I guess ... $$ --- Also, You're pretty cool !!!
Maybe just for my computer but any red highlight blob will auto snap to next note if you double click it. Ill sometimes select a whole Phrase and just double click and listen to see if it went to a wrong note
I have to intervene and say Melodyne is not an Autotune! as in it does not tune automatically in realtime like Antares autotune, therefore you don't get the tpane fx because you still retain the original glide from one word to another. You can of course create the tpane fx by using the pitch tool and adjusting the glide to a more steeper angle.
nice singing....
Maybe I missed it but, are you using essentials of is it and upgraded version of Melodyne? Or are the examples geared to essentials and beyond?
Cool video. Learned a lot. Thank you
Shame He didn’t mention anything in the video about the different versions. Would have been good to know, or at least know if the cheaper one is enough.
I was dead surprised that the octave thing worked so well in the mix when it sounds so goofy on its own
I find Melodyne a bit fiddly and restricted. It might be "integrated", but it doesn't work like the rest of Studio One. I'm tempted to switch back to Cubase just for VariAudio.
Hi Joe, thanks for sharing about melodyne! I'm a fan of this tool, but lately something annoys me. A lot of times, it ruins my vocal and makes it sound robotic when I corrected the pitch (It's not even far from the supposed-to-be pitch). Why do you think it happens?
If not mentioned, change the ‘swing’ of the copied vocal, it may help reduce the phasing.
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Hi Joe. Just a small question. How do you get the breathy, airy, raspiness effect on the female vocal at the end that we often hear on modern prods?. I first heard this effect many years ago on Sinead O'Connor's unforgettable version of Elton John's 'Sacrifice'. I've tried using the Aphex Aural Exciter but there is something missing.(Distortion, phasing, etc?)
I have the version of melodyne that comes with studio one. And unless I’m missing something my mouse doesn’t change to that split tool when I hover over the note.
Thanks for the video, I see your screen looks exactly like mine, so Melodyne 5 essential doesn't come will all the other tools that I see on video tutorials like pitch formant, pitch modulation, etc?
"Sorry Microphone." 😅😂 Anyhow, thx for another great tutorial.
You don’t need to convince us why we need to use the auto tuner or how much to use it or how little to use it. Everybody’s got their own idea about how much to tune how much not to tune. One time I just changed a note by a half step because I liked that note better than the one I had originally recorded. I do a lot of saxophone recording, and I like to fix the bad notes on my saxophone after I’ve recorded it, because it’s really impossible to play that beast in tune the first time around.
I'm not seeing the little separation icon show up when I select a blob and hover over it. Any advice? Thanks!
I'm not at my daw computer, but as far as I can recall you don't have to command A to select everything. If you don't select anything then you have selected everything. Give it a try.
Tell us something about the table in the background :)
is there a way to see midi notes from a midi track in Melodyne? say, for example, a melody line midi track, that a singer should be singing, so you can see the notes as reference? but within the editor... next to vocal notes...
My dude apologized to his microphone 😍
Why use open back headphone to record? I don't understand😢, just for some blinding out of sound make vocal sound like live took? 😵💫
melodyne sounds like something the doctor would subscribe lol. But it’s a great tool love it 👍
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How is melodyne with brass?
Is there another option?
And then when you play live you are back to imperfection. 🤪
Right on chap, whats the spanner icon for?
i totally recommend melodyne, but not the essential edition. it doesn’t give you nearly as many tools to work with, no direct note access, and no polyphonic editing capabilities. i’d definitely recommend at least the editor edition, but the studio edition of melodyne is just fantastic. especially if your daw has ara, you can use it in real time.
do you have to pay monthly to use your DAW?
Can Melodyne add vibrato to a singing part?