The Magical Release Knob

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
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    If you can't quite articulate the way a release knob on a compressor
    affects the sound, this will help. In this video, I show you an example
    from a recent mix that gives a really great example of the sound of the
    release setting on a snare drum.
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  • @HomeStudioCorner
    @HomeStudioCorner  23 дні тому +2

    ▶︎▶︎ Free 5-Step Mix Guide here: www.5stepmix.com

    • @TJ-vt6rt
      @TJ-vt6rt 16 днів тому

      Was that the cheat for Sonic ? It's been a long time.

    • @kevinlittle7776
      @kevinlittle7776 14 днів тому

      Snare: at 50ms the compressing effect was so brief that it sounded like no compression at all. The tail of the snare hit was unaffected and took much longer to decay than when released at 200ms vs 50ms.

  • @ronallen2458
    @ronallen2458 16 днів тому +10

    On a full drum kit, I think of the release knob as the “room” knob.

  • @Detroitdogg
    @Detroitdogg 7 днів тому

    Tanks Joe! That was the clearest description of compression I've seen. The up-down-left-right analogy helps keep it straight in my mind.

  • @Wizitch
    @Wizitch 11 днів тому

    "Rockness". My new favourite word!

  • @FieldBeasts
    @FieldBeasts 16 днів тому +7

    Joe, I love your philosophy with music. Using simplicity and efficiency is the most powerful concept. I would love to see you make some production/composition centered videos, because that's a side we don't get to really see from you !

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  16 днів тому

      Great suggestion. Any specific ideas?

    • @shan5445
      @shan5445 16 днів тому

      ​@@HomeStudioCorner I agree let's see you work a production to completion. You have a good voice let's see what you can do. Or get Presonus guys to make a song with you if you don't feel confident enough to do it on your own 😂

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  15 днів тому +1

      That's exactly what I do (three different times) inside my recording course. www.homestudiocorner.com/record

  • @andrewgilman8835
    @andrewgilman8835 16 днів тому +4

    A great piece of advice I heard from another UA-cam mixer was to take a compressor and crank the input gain, max the ratio and then you can really hear how the attack and release are affecting the sound. Once you dial in the attack and release, then dial in the input gain and ratio.

    • @officialWWM
      @officialWWM 16 днів тому +1

      That’s great advice, thanks for sharing!

    • @beachforestmountain4269
      @beachforestmountain4269 16 днів тому +1

      That's a good way to train a person's ears how to hear the difference.

  • @toffeeriot4219
    @toffeeriot4219 5 днів тому

    Interesting stuff. Up until now I'd just pushed the release knob into a middle position and hoped for the best. I will now start listening to the signal with different release timings.

  • @wagnerribeiro4061
    @wagnerribeiro4061 14 днів тому

    Konami Code compression method, by Joe Gilder. You made me laugh out loud and feel happy (and old!) with this reference - hehe.
    Great video, as always. Cheers!

  • @Joseph124269
    @Joseph124269 10 днів тому

    Very strong ability to explain. I am getting everything you are saying. ❤

  • @raymondspagnuolo8222
    @raymondspagnuolo8222 14 днів тому

    A really interesting, helpful tutorial. Another good one!

  • @davebops2478
    @davebops2478 16 днів тому +2

    Great video Joe. Release is the hardest setting to master

  • @MontegoBayApartment
    @MontegoBayApartment 2 дні тому

    very helpful explained! give tanx Joe 🤜🤛

  • @elisha4
    @elisha4 13 днів тому

    Man, you read my mind. I was just looking for a video about shaping snares with compression and this was absolutely perfect!

  • @polaris911
    @polaris911 15 днів тому

    great tips. I've definitely mutilated some snares turning knobs on a compressor

  • @cgsmithinnola
    @cgsmithinnola 14 днів тому

    I needed to hear/see this! Thanks, Joe!

  • @earle4370
    @earle4370 15 днів тому

    Thanks for a more laymen's terms in describing what a compressor does. I've watched a bunch of videos on compressors alone and was like, "I'll get it at some point." I'm listening on M1 iMac on my work break. The speakers are ok at best. What I hear when you shorten the release time is not only volume, but the resonance of the shell and the actual snare wires themselves. Pretty cool demonstration.

  • @MikeFromDownUnder
    @MikeFromDownUnder 15 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing this! 👍

  • @beachforestmountain4269
    @beachforestmountain4269 16 днів тому

    I sometimes use a short release on the compressor, and then run the compressor in parallel with the source signal, adjusting the mix between the compressor and the source until it sounds like it fills out the song more. It gives the song a less hollow sound, filling what might have otherwise been emptiness in the sound of the song. And, to me, this glues the song together better. But it depends on the song. Having it in parallel means I can control how much of it I want to have.

  • @houssemguedria6101
    @houssemguedria6101 15 днів тому

    Sometimes, the release knob help to sharp the groove in the track , on percussion, drums or others instruments and the nuance too. But technically its the speed to initialize the compressor, and I love to automate the release with some delay , and it make the snare fill bounce better... Thank your for explanation

  • @JoeStuffzAlt
    @JoeStuffzAlt 16 днів тому

    I'm getting the hang of compressors, but going over it again definitely is a help for me,

  • @aeroprof
    @aeroprof 16 днів тому

    What I heard: Faster release preserved some of the "echo/reverb/tail" of the snap sound

  • @dalenihiser7766
    @dalenihiser7766 16 днів тому

    At 50ms the audio sounded louder and more sharp while the other 100ms setting the audio sounded softer and maybe more natural.

  • @erickenn96
    @erickenn96 15 днів тому

    Thanks Joe for all the help. I saw your video today talking about mixing virtual drums and was curious as to your pc setup if you don't mind.

  • @CRISPYBLACK
    @CRISPYBLACK 15 днів тому

    Longer release time made the Snare sound more squashed. When the release time was shortened I felt like the sound of the snare was more open. Feels like the longer release time made the Snare sound tighter.

  • @herosbride2834
    @herosbride2834 15 днів тому

    Great video Joe. You make these things so easy to understand.

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 15 днів тому

    The release knob is there for a reason, for the compressors that have it. My SSL bus and G3 I'll probably use Auto, but I can dial in a faster release manually on my 2 bus to go with slow attack. 2:1 ratio, 30 (30 ms) attack, Auto or .1 (10 ms) release, threshold to get about 1 DB Gain Reduction.
    Nice Nintendo code, probably Contra.

    • @wyrlismike
      @wyrlismike 3 дні тому

      isnt the .1 on an ssl bus type comp 100ms? for the release i mean. not 10ms

  • @nuthinbutlove
    @nuthinbutlove 16 днів тому

    Great video!

  • @michaeltablet8577
    @michaeltablet8577 16 днів тому +1

    Thanks again Joe! Always helpful videos!

  • @gregtapevideo1464
    @gregtapevideo1464 16 днів тому

    Great vid as usual Joe! Thanks. I had a bit of an epiphany just last evening with the release knob on the limiter on my output buss. Instead of paying attention to the level meters i was focused on the numbers just above the output slider. They were bouncing all over. Adjusting the release just right and they didnt bounce so much. I like to keep the output around negative seven leaving the mastering engineer room to work with.

  • @noamberger651
    @noamberger651 15 днів тому

    That was a really helpful vid

  • @premeditatedplan5417
    @premeditatedplan5417 16 днів тому

    Thanks Joe, great explainer.

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 16 днів тому

    Perfect explanation BTW!!💪🏽💪🏽

  • @vintileonardo2939
    @vintileonardo2939 16 днів тому

    In case of vocal compression, sometimes I feel uncomfortable with the harshness that arises when I apply too much compression to the voice. However, sometimes the voice needs this type of compression. When I have a fast release, this "grit" appears a lot in the mix, such as: initial breaths, strange frequencies, etc.
    Wouldn't this be solved with a longer release, right? Where the voice would become smoother, in terms of things that appear in the front of the mix, but still quite compressed as I always wanted from the beginning. I feel like there's a "trend" among UA-cam producers to think that a long release kills the punch of the instruments. It's almost unanimous: want punchy sound? Slow attack, short release. But this is a very generic way to explain compression. Then you see countless songs sounding horribly dirty, especially the vocals.
    Quality content, man!

  • @petergiersch2387
    @petergiersch2387 16 днів тому

    When you speed up the release it sounds louder and I would guess that's because you're letting the sound out faster. It makes it slower release time feel almost gated.

  • @hextatik_sound
    @hextatik_sound 16 днів тому

    It's very important knob on compressor indeed. As important as attack, ratio and treshold.

  • @VApplegate412
    @VApplegate412 16 днів тому

    Just add some nutmeg to that snare, it will mellow the Ph level... A very informative Video (as usual)

  • @emstudiosLLC
    @emstudiosLLC 16 днів тому

    Going all "Konami Code" on us! Awesome!

  • @jimgraczyk6991
    @jimgraczyk6991 11 днів тому

    I have seen a lot of videos on compression, but none of them give examples of the desired result of compression. Can you tell us what is so good about it. How can it make our recordings more pro sounding?

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  11 днів тому

      This is a great question. Just so I understand you, you're asking for a more fundamental video about what actually compression DOES to the sound and why we use it in the first place?

  • @lequidbit9385
    @lequidbit9385 16 днів тому

    This is the way

  • @NatureSleepSerenity
    @NatureSleepSerenity 14 днів тому

    Hi Joe, just wondering if you were going to keep posting on the recording revolution or not? Many thanks and been following for a long time!

  • @DjBydLo
    @DjBydLo 16 днів тому

    Amazing explanation, but what about other instruments? I guess that for non drums a faster release gets the more natural results...

  • @el_ambient_dude7424
    @el_ambient_dude7424 16 днів тому

    I can listen all day to this guy… voice tone matters!!! lol 😂

  • @ric8248
    @ric8248 16 днів тому

    I heard like the 50ms allowed some sort of short reverb, whereas 100ms sounded like a treated room.

  • @noamberger651
    @noamberger651 15 днів тому

    Short release caused the snare to preserve its tail while longer release caused the tail to be more contained and tight.

  • @ErixSamson
    @ErixSamson 16 днів тому

    @5'30'': When you move to 50ms I can hear much more harmonics or at least more treble, right? And it's a bit louder too.

  • @jehoshuajephthah669
    @jehoshuajephthah669 16 днів тому +1

    Wow so educative. Please what mic are you using please?

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  16 днів тому

      Earthworks Ethos

    • @BukanIbuMu
      @BukanIbuMu 16 днів тому

      I have the same mic as him and I still sound thin and whiny. I don't know why. Maybe it's his natural voice that's warm.

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  15 днів тому +1

      Here's a hint. I've been running this channel for 15 years, and I've changed my microphone many times, but for 15 years people have asked me what mic I use. The mic doesn't matter all that much. This is just what my voice sounds like. Also I know how to EQ it to make it sound good. That's it.

  • @trevortjes
    @trevortjes 15 днів тому

    If you use your comp on snare purely to shape the envelope (which makes sense), have you ever considered using a transient shaper instead?

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  15 днів тому

      I haven't. I'm sure they're awesome. I've just never used 'em.

  • @scottrowan200
    @scottrowan200 16 днів тому

    It got louder, some rattle and grit came out and it felt like longer tail or sustain ( hope this makss sense and i am describing it correct)

  • @bobshadix8591
    @bobshadix8591 13 днів тому

    The slower release time tightened the sound on the snare.

  • @user-vn7gl3hd3l
    @user-vn7gl3hd3l 16 днів тому

    PUMPING

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 16 днів тому

    I feel compress is the difference between talking outside in NYC traffic in the middle of the day and talking in a library

  • @REX-007
    @REX-007 16 днів тому

    Thanks for the video Joe. If I hadn't watched this one, it would've taken me longer to realize that the fast release is actually to the right side of the knob. 😂

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  15 днів тому +1

      Yeah Presonus put the actual time (in milliseconds) on there, which isn't on the original hardware. Super helpful.

  • @mrdali67
    @mrdali67 16 днів тому

    What about those mixer where you have a "one" knob compressor, it's kinda changing several settings at once. Does this mean those are "trash" or can you actually get decent result with these things ?

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  16 днів тому

      They are not trash. But they are more binary. You either get the sound you want or you don’t. Since you can’t adjust all the individual settings, you are left with simply not being able to customize the sound at all. I would imagine it either works or it doesn’t on a specific track.

  • @GeorgeAmodei21
    @GeorgeAmodei21 16 днів тому

    Hear more SPlASH/Ring w/short Release.

  • @badenhill1487
    @badenhill1487 15 днів тому

    Brighter & longer ,less stifled Joe

  • @RJEnriquez
    @RJEnriquez 16 днів тому

    Joe! What is the zooming plugin or app you use? Haven’t been able to find anything like it. Please.

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  16 днів тому +1

      It’s a built-in Mac function. Set it up in Accessibility. I’m just using Ctrl+scroll

    • @RJEnriquez
      @RJEnriquez 16 днів тому

      @@HomeStudioCorner You’re the man! Thanks Joe!

  • @raymondmeers
    @raymondmeers 16 днів тому +1

    sustain

  • @thomashinds5668
    @thomashinds5668 9 днів тому

    At 50ms it sounded louder and more bright.

  • @Take-the-Ticket
    @Take-the-Ticket 16 днів тому

    I think syncing the compressor to tempo can do wonders in electronic music. Rock/metal not so much.

  • @jonathancomer1185
    @jonathancomer1185 16 днів тому

    A "clean knob" is essential, especially when you're "pumping" those beats 🤭

  • @stevel5650
    @stevel5650 16 днів тому

    Snare is more up front when it is released at 50ms.

  • @greatarcadeofficial
    @greatarcadeofficial 16 днів тому +1

    I also use a compressor to skip levels in Sonic. 🙃

  • @Kunibert_Knatter
    @Kunibert_Knatter 16 днів тому

    To my ears, the shorter release time added some sound of the room.
    The longer releases made the snare sound more kind of blupp.

  • @anthonysmissions
    @anthonysmissions 15 днів тому

    Just wanted to say Joe... You are looking really good. looks like you have lost STACKS of weight. Good on ya.

  • @gatherstudio5219
    @gatherstudio5219 16 днів тому

    A tad louder and longer decay

  • @aceventura5398
    @aceventura5398 16 днів тому

    Don't think I will ever ask you for directions joe

  • @MSGadded
    @MSGadded 16 днів тому +3

    Slower sounds like whaaaapt. Faster sounds WHAPT

  • @Time-Trvlr
    @Time-Trvlr 11 днів тому

    We had a drummer that used hydraulic heads on his drums to me those were the best id ever heard. the ringing tones on some standard heads is not color i seek, most the time they are out of key to the music material.

  • @scottgreuel548
    @scottgreuel548 15 днів тому

    The 50ms sounds snappier and louder

  • @DuncanMok
    @DuncanMok 15 днів тому

    Legend!

  • @anievestor
    @anievestor 15 днів тому

    The sound was kinda sustained more at 50 ten the other setting

  • @federicgubsburn
    @federicgubsburn 16 днів тому +2

    Im first!

  • @musicaleltd
    @musicaleltd 16 днів тому

    much longer decay time at the end of the snare lick

  • @JMSDyt
    @JMSDyt 16 днів тому

    It's like a volume knob for the tail of the sound

  • @Mtb_American
    @Mtb_American 16 днів тому

    I found your secret brawl stars channel. It’s so fire.

  • @Ray-um3if
    @Ray-um3if 16 днів тому

    When moved to 50ms the snare gets bigger.

  • @marcvanhie4425
    @marcvanhie4425 16 днів тому

    shorter release, longer tail

  • @woutermissiaen4745
    @woutermissiaen4745 15 днів тому

    50ms is louder and longer.

  • @Time-Trvlr
    @Time-Trvlr 11 днів тому

    50ms sounded brighter

  • @LemonesqueStudio
    @LemonesqueStudio 16 днів тому

    faster rekease = longer tail

  • @JonathanThrift
    @JonathanThrift 16 днів тому

    Contra...30 lives for 2 players

    • @HomeStudioCorner
      @HomeStudioCorner  15 днів тому

      You win everything.

    • @JonathanThrift
      @JonathanThrift 15 днів тому

      @@HomeStudioCorner 😆 Great video btw. Thanks for the instruction.

  • @mrsnapple5827
    @mrsnapple5827 15 днів тому

    Im unsubscribing just for this dumb thumbnail, the shock trope🙄