I don't have school today because of this. I heard the helicopters flying over town. I'm so sorry to everyone affected by this and I hope those who are injured get better soon.
@@AnthonyD-yy2in "there doesn't seem to be enough prisons for these kinds of maniacs... how about the death penalty instead?" harsher sentencing would be a good thing...
An armed society is a dangerous and paranoid society. There are too many damned guns in this country. No one has a God given right to carry a gun that is total nonsense. This is why the USA is so damned violent.
Indeed, MSU should have never been a gun-free zone. So you are okay with felons getting out and shooting unarmed kids? Gun laws will NEVER stop gun violence.
Multiple firearm infractions against him, and he clearly had psychological issues, yet he still walks the streets. Some moronic officials weren't doing their jobs! The gun didn't kill anyone but the lunatic behind it and the officials who let him run free did. They need to be held accountable. And we need to put some armed security on school campuses to protect the students!
@@_mr_cat that's what constitutional carry is for. So armed citizens have the means to protect themselves. But instead they'll want to ban guns, which would mean only criminals would have them. Their logic makes no sense!
Public schools teach kids all their personal failures are the result of society or social injustice, so now when they snap they lash out at everyone - exactly the way the teachers program them too. They no longer teach the Golden Rule or personal responsibility. All these attacks are public schools or nitwits who went to one, it is because of the curriculum and faculty.
@@deerdust3040 arming more people will absolutely not solve a single thing. It’s literally just fighting fire with fire. Guns need to be heavily regulated, because this will keep happening if they’re not. Why else do you think other countries don’t deal with this every single day?
I’m an East Lansing Native, everyone in my Family has gone / worked for MSU. I wish I could be here supporting the entirety of those involved. But given my personal experience with MSP and The University, I’m almost certain my local, state, and federal police did one of the messiest, and most unprofessional cleanups/investigations I’ve ever seen; or witnessed. There were almost no officers actually searching for the Gunman, the priority had always been moving students from building to building like a game of cat and mouse; oh shan’t we forget about one of the individuals shot by the Accused.. was left outside their dorm by police.. injured for over an hour. Medical responses were drastically slowed; they incorrectly used their radios aswell. How essential is it on the list of “investigations” to NOT switch your Radio channel while actively “searching”. The University let Nassar Blow over, allowed countless Rape allegations to blow over, ignored repeated bomb threats, failed to properly survey The Hub. Unfortunately I think this will be MSU, aka the Entire universities Demise .
We tried already more guns...let's try less guns for a change 🤮 I live in East Lansing the home of MSU. OUR HEARTS ARE BLEEDING. There were 67 mass shootings in 6 weeks in the USA. What are we waiting? Our children are dying...and for what?????
Started out as a known criminal! McRae has a recent history with firearms. He was arrested in Lansing and charged in June 2019 with carrying a concealed pistol without a concealed carry permit, according to Ingham County court records obtained Tuesday by The Detroit News. The initial charge was a felony that carried a potential penalty of five years in prison, according to the records. At about 3 a.m. June 7, 2019, an officer encountered McRae in Lansing where the officer asked him if he had any weapons on him. McRae acknowledged he had a gun but he didn’t have a concealed weapons permit, according to court records. McRae also had a magazine in his right breast pocket, according to the court records. “He advised the handgun was registered to him,” a court document about the incident said. “He bought it late March at Capital Discount. Ingham County Circuit Court records show Anthony McRae pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in 2019 and prosecutors dismissed a felony charge against him. In October 2019, Ingham County prosecutors added a second charge against McRae: possession of a loaded firearm in a vehicle, a misdemeanor. That same month, October 2019, McRae agreed to plead guilty to the lesser misdemeanor charge, and prosecutors dismissed the felony charge.
I listened to the scanner for hours while this went down. There were gun shots being fired at multiple dorms that were opposite of each other on campus. Calls of multiple people with long guns. One suspect? Dispatch made it sound like the campus was being over run with gunman. What about the call to 911 about someone placing bombs around campus? Never heard an ambulance dispatched or fatalities either. Almost like they were running a drill. Not buying it
@Paladin Of Christ thanks for letting me know that. 911 was saying they had multiple gun shots at holdings, wonders, bailings and Mcdougal. I thought for one gun man he sure is getting around.
@@ressie42 I heard swat, MSP, and campus police. They were evacuating dorms. What about this bomb threat. Someone called and said they placed bombs all over campus and then hung up on 911.
@@ou812scotty probably was the bullets hitting the other buildings possibly? And students thought they heard it in their building maybe? Seemed like there were a lot of false alarms
Why do people keep saying "kids" this is a university they're already adults. I'm not saying is less tragic I'm just pointing out the fact that they're already adults.
Young man witnessed classmates being killed, wow. Many soldiers suffer from PTSD after witnessing something like this, while this student is stone cold, almost as if it's not real
Imagine how those Freshman students that graduated from Oxford High School are feeling today. Even if they weren't in the vicinity (odds are they weren't with the size of the campus, and number of students who attend) but I'm sure getting the alerts, and sheltering in place, not knowing if the shooter is going to find them and kill them or someone they know... If they didn't have PTSD after experiencing their first mass/school shooting 14 months ago--I'm sure they're going to be dealing with that now. Having a firsthand experience with one of these tragic events is relatively rare, but this is the first time I've ever heard of anyone being directly in the line of fire of a lone gunman twice, let alone in such a short span of time.
He had a felony back in 2019 for carrying without a permit and was off of probation in 2021, he was 43 also, this is all the information we have right now
We reallyyyyy need to get rid of guns, i dont really understand this nation’s obsession with owning one. For every american there are 4 guns in this nation. That is absurd, these weapons of destruction are meant to produce one thing only and that is death to the on the other side of the barrel.
Seriously? You don't understand why Americans should want to own guns? You might want to acquaint yourself with some real American history. The Germans thought the same way you do, didn't go very well for it's non- carrying citizens did it?
Yes............great idea. So only the murderers can have them? Take a look at violence when gun laws have passed. Please don't speak of issues you know absolutely NOTHING about.
cousins of mine attend MSU. they are gun owners too, it's unfortunate they arnt allowed to carry on campus because they could've possibly stopped this person sooner
I disagree because if that were an option that gives more openness to this happening, what should of been done its having more on campus sercerity doors being locked with student acsess only with a guard near every door
He said his “Fight or Flight” instinct kicked in, but it was just the “Flight” part. Is this university a “Gun Free Zone”? If so, how could this happen? Oh, because those are words and not a real defense against anything.
Until we come to a compromise with gun laws this is gonna get worse, we need to set a line on who can carry and who can’t it’s obvious this system isn’t working and if you don’t agree clearly you’re in denial, there’s a school shooting so often now it’s literally a meme an actual joke it happens so often it’s made fun of in popular shows now, while other countries don’t have this issue.
Gun control wouldn't have made a difference in this instance. The suspect in question had a felony gun charge and wasn't supposed to be in possession of a firearm.
did you watch the video??? good grief matt.... ask your mom to watch it with you once, and explain to you what the guy said that he did. it wasnt "froze and did nothing"... you made that part up, then commented as if that's what the guy said... why?
He fled his specific spot directly near the door and ran to a different spot, farther away from the gunman. That was his flight response. Had his fight response hit, he might have tried to grab the shooter. There are actually more F’s - fight flight freeze faint - he fled and wasn’t shot.
Rich grown adults probably messed with the wrong brotha it happens all the time I live in a college town here too in Michigan and when these so called kids , get drunk they mess with people I see it all the time
@@Faerienice it does not justify anything. What I’m simply saying is that maybe these college students may have got into an altercation with the killer . It happens a lot here . I see these students get drunk, high on drugs and make fun of people, act violent , antagonize a whole neighborhood with their partying which may be the case here
@@flew6641 i never talk tough. i asked why his instinct was to run , instead of defend himself and others. so if that is talking tough , then i guess i was talking tough. i'll just go play video games, and be a real badass.
I don't have school today because of this. I heard the helicopters flying over town. I'm so sorry to everyone affected by this and I hope those who are injured get better soon.
Time will heal all wounds, but knowing you're not at school bc of this really put things in perspective
Bless your heart
@@deejay2294 thank you
Affected
@@gregkosinski2303 LMAO my bad G I fixed it 🤣
that’s my homie dom oh my god. I’m so sick of these shootings man
Wow I didn't even realize until you said Dom then I went and watched it again. I went to Spring Lake with him.
Lol
media fuels it with all the attention, never used to be school shootings, why now?
@@insomb go outside
@@IncrediblyMid why?
Wouldn’t “no mass killings today” be a great headline?
Lol Democrat run city’s beg to differ. Happy history month.
Ugh. I really must stop reading comments. Such a gross waste of my precious time.
I'm so freaking tired of this bullsh*t.
so what's your suggested solution? put criminals in prisons where they belong??
@@JohnDoe-ew3xt there doesn't seem to be enough prisons for these kinds of maniacs... how about the death penalty instead?
@@AnthonyD-yy2in "there doesn't seem to be enough prisons for these kinds of maniacs... how about the death penalty instead?"
harsher sentencing would be a good thing...
We need to rethink our gun laws here in United States but the government doesn't care
It’s blows my mind that he could so easily walk inside
The United States needs to rethink their gun laws I am so ashamed of my country
you're right. Nobody should own a gun.
That's right. Everyone should be allowed to carry one.
An armed society is a dangerous and paranoid society. There are too many damned guns in this country. No one has a God given right to carry a gun that is total nonsense. This is why the USA is so damned violent.
Indeed, MSU should have never been a gun-free zone. So you are okay with felons getting out and shooting unarmed kids? Gun laws will NEVER stop gun violence.
Maybe we should fix the actual problem with the community and mental illness
Multiple firearm infractions against him, and he clearly had psychological issues, yet he still walks the streets. Some moronic officials weren't doing their jobs! The gun didn't kill anyone but the lunatic behind it and the officials who let him run free did. They need to be held accountable. And we need to put some armed security on school campuses to protect the students!
You forgot malls and movie theatres
@@_mr_cat that's what constitutional carry is for. So armed citizens have the means to protect themselves. But instead they'll want to ban guns, which would mean only criminals would have them. Their logic makes no sense!
Public schools teach kids all their personal failures are the result of society or social injustice, so now when they snap they lash out at everyone - exactly the way the teachers program them too. They no longer teach the Golden Rule or personal responsibility. All these attacks are public schools or nitwits who went to one, it is because of the curriculum and faculty.
@@deerdust3040 arming more people will absolutely not solve a single thing. It’s literally just fighting fire with fire. Guns need to be heavily regulated, because this will keep happening if they’re not. Why else do you think other countries don’t deal with this every single day?
@@averyjohnson7728 US society is to blame for the mass shootings.
I’m an East Lansing Native, everyone in my Family has gone / worked for MSU. I wish I could be here supporting the entirety of those involved. But given my personal experience with MSP and The University, I’m almost certain my local, state, and federal police did one of the messiest, and most unprofessional cleanups/investigations I’ve ever seen; or witnessed. There were almost no officers actually searching for the Gunman, the priority had always been moving students from building to building like a game of cat and mouse; oh shan’t we forget about one of the individuals shot by the Accused.. was left outside their dorm by police.. injured for over an hour. Medical responses were drastically slowed; they incorrectly used their radios aswell. How essential is it on the list of “investigations” to NOT switch your Radio channel while actively “searching”. The University let Nassar Blow over, allowed countless Rape allegations to blow over, ignored repeated bomb threats, failed to properly survey The Hub. Unfortunately I think this will be MSU, aka the Entire universities Demise .
We tried already more guns...let's try less guns for a change 🤮 I live in East Lansing the home of MSU. OUR HEARTS ARE BLEEDING.
There were 67 mass shootings in 6 weeks in the USA.
What are we waiting? Our children are dying...and for what?????
Started out as a known criminal!
McRae has a recent history with firearms.
He was arrested in Lansing and charged in June 2019 with carrying a concealed pistol without a concealed carry permit, according to Ingham County court records obtained Tuesday by The Detroit News. The initial charge was a felony that carried a potential penalty of five years in prison, according to the records.
At about 3 a.m. June 7, 2019, an officer encountered McRae in Lansing where the officer asked him if he had any weapons on him. McRae acknowledged he had a gun but he didn’t have a concealed weapons permit, according to court records. McRae also had a magazine in his right breast pocket, according to the court records.
“He advised the handgun was registered to him,” a court document about the incident said. “He bought it late March at Capital Discount.
Ingham County Circuit Court records show Anthony McRae pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor gun charge in 2019 and prosecutors dismissed a felony charge against him.
In October 2019, Ingham County prosecutors added a second charge against McRae: possession of a loaded firearm in a vehicle, a misdemeanor.
That same month, October 2019, McRae agreed to plead guilty to the lesser misdemeanor charge, and prosecutors dismissed the felony charge.
but you can't put him in jail... we owe him!
What happens when Democrats run your state
makes perfect sense.....until....any thots Governess..??
So another mk type. Cop-controlled.
I'm going to have pepperoni pizza I think for lunch.
Me too for dinner.
charge it to your mom.
I listened to the scanner for hours while this went down. There were gun shots being fired at multiple dorms that were opposite of each other on campus. Calls of multiple people with long guns. One suspect? Dispatch made it sound like the campus was being over run with gunman. What about the call to 911 about someone placing bombs around campus? Never heard an ambulance dispatched or fatalities either. Almost like they were running a drill. Not buying it
EMS were redirected to another channel that’s why you didn’t hear it on the scanner often
@Paladin Of Christ thanks for letting me know that. 911 was saying they had multiple gun shots at holdings, wonders, bailings and Mcdougal. I thought for one gun man he sure is getting around.
@@ressie42 I heard swat, MSP, and campus police. They were evacuating dorms. What about this bomb threat. Someone called and said they placed bombs all over campus and then hung up on 911.
@@ou812scotty probably was the bullets hitting the other buildings possibly? And students thought they heard it in their building maybe? Seemed like there were a lot of false alarms
@@tp3821 lots of calls for people with back packs. No mention of the bomb threats either
Why isn't there security 🤔
Exactly. How tf can you just walk into those buildings without a badge that you scan in the door? It’s crazy
Why do people keep saying "kids" this is a university they're already adults.
I'm not saying is less tragic I'm just pointing out the fact that they're already adults.
Not everyone on campus is 18
We’re just young people trying to become something and people want to STOP THAT
Figure of speech maybe since human brains finish developing in the mid to late 20s and the average life expectancy? Just spitballin a theory
Then why aren't they allowed the tools to defend themselves?
It’s cool just keep gun laws the same. No big deal
If you had the power to make any gun law, what would it be?
Young man witnessed classmates being killed, wow. Many soldiers suffer from PTSD after witnessing something like this, while this student is stone cold, almost as if it's not real
Imagine how those Freshman students that graduated from Oxford High School are feeling today. Even if they weren't in the vicinity (odds are they weren't with the size of the campus, and number of students who attend) but I'm sure getting the alerts, and sheltering in place, not knowing if the shooter is going to find them and kill them or someone they know... If they didn't have PTSD after experiencing their first mass/school shooting 14 months ago--I'm sure they're going to be dealing with that now. Having a firsthand experience with one of these tragic events is relatively rare, but this is the first time I've ever heard of anyone being directly in the line of fire of a lone gunman twice, let alone in such a short span of time.
I don’t even feel it’s real watching this. Can only imagine seeing it up close. How devastating 😢
Scripts are real🤣
Besides being a black male, what else about him?
He had a felony back in 2019 for carrying without a permit and was off of probation in 2021, he was 43 also, this is all the information we have right now
@@mattharper6152 thanks!
He's a shiny, self propelled self shooting object of an unknown origin. By all means; stay focused on this story. And Slava Ukrain.
I think the only way to make this situation better is to continue obsessing about black culture in America and screaming racism and social injustice.
Sounds like we need to make a better effort at keeping weapons out of the hands of the mentally ill.
Self inflicted. Would have liked to get a motive
We reallyyyyy need to get rid of guns, i dont really understand this nation’s obsession with owning one. For every american there are 4 guns in this nation. That is absurd, these weapons of destruction are meant to produce one thing only and that is death to the on the other side of the barrel.
Seriously? You don't understand why Americans should want to own guns? You might want to acquaint yourself with some real American history. The Germans thought the same way you do, didn't go very well for it's non- carrying citizens did it?
Yes............great idea. So only the murderers can have them? Take a look at violence when gun laws have passed. Please don't speak of issues you know absolutely NOTHING about.
Are you optically myopic or just logically?
So leave! Shall not be infringed. When 2A is gone, the rest of them will be taken as well
That may not be reasonable.
Hey, take it easy, Jamal. Don't pull out the nine
Black male
43 year old male.
which is an anomaly, as these mass shootings are usually perpetrated by young white males.
@@merricc6911 no... no they're not. The vast majority of Mass Shooters are "Blk Hity Munf" folks.
@@merricc6911 "Wihte" Mass Shooters are actually the statistical anomalies... and that's a fact.
Of course, who else would it be?
cousins of mine attend MSU. they are gun owners too, it's unfortunate they arnt allowed to carry on campus because they could've possibly stopped this person sooner
Every campus should be open carry
I disagree because if that were an option that gives more openness to this happening, what should of been done its having more on campus sercerity doors being locked with student acsess only with a guard near every door
@@savannacrenshaw wrong. You’ve been brainwashed
@PaladinOf-888 some people like being the fish in the barrel.
what a stupid idea
Ok ABC. Time to say his skin color. Can't blame this one on white MAGA supremecy LOL
Go rot
@@mandarinD hurts feelings?
But you can blame of the other 95% of them LOL
School shooting and skin color is what u care about…not the right time to push your political agenda pal
Media puppets, haha. All of you
He wasn’t shot b/c the shooter didn’t have fully automatic or a switch 1:42 🤷🏾♂️
He said his “Fight or Flight” instinct kicked in, but it was just the “Flight” part. Is this university a “Gun Free Zone”? If so, how could this happen? Oh, because those are words and not a real defense against anything.
zone laws were never meant to be a defensive measure you dotard
Well maybe we should first question how this lunatic, who was already once arrested and jailed, was allowed to freely roam the streets again.
Oh yeah more guns that’s what we need. Please make the decision he did at the end; before you ruin lives.
@@dook228 gun free zones are only to keep the good guys with guns out of them
Not even the flight part
He froze and hid
Did not run
Certainly did not fight
Keep giving people a reason to carry.
Happens every day in the southside of Chicago
Maybe do something about that first
Until we come to a compromise with gun laws this is gonna get worse, we need to set a line on who can carry and who can’t it’s obvious this system isn’t working and if you don’t agree clearly you’re in denial, there’s a school shooting so often now it’s literally a meme an actual joke it happens so often it’s made fun of in popular shows now, while other countries don’t have this issue.
Gun control wouldn't have made a difference in this instance. The suspect in question had a felony gun charge and wasn't supposed to be in possession of a firearm.
Yeah in gun free zones.
How would you decide who can carry and who can't?
Why did they interview a coward? He was two seats away from the gunman.
yea... too bad you weren't there...
you would have leaped over a tall building, caught a few bullets in your teeth, then taken the guy down....
@@JohnDoe-ew3xt I did just that fifteen years ago.
@@richardbuie1829 another adolescent liberal...
Everyone thinks they’ll be John McClane in these situations.
Not everybody is gonna attack a man/woman with a gun 🤷🏾♂️
Cant blame somebody for looking after himself
Thank god your fight or flight response kicked in?
So you froze and did nothing?
What planet are we on these days
SMDH
Matt, what would you have done??? This guy was NOT THE KILLER!!!! SMH
did you watch the video???
good grief matt....
ask your mom to watch it with you once, and explain to you what the guy said that he did.
it wasnt "froze and did nothing"...
you made that part up, then commented as if that's what the guy said...
why?
He fled his specific spot directly near the door and ran to a different spot, farther away from the gunman. That was his flight response. Had his fight response hit, he might have tried to grab the shooter. There are actually more F’s - fight flight freeze faint - he fled and wasn’t shot.
Would you have rather he get killed? Are you ok or is there something WRONG with you?!
Not everyone reacts the same in those situations for various reasons. You don’t know a persons past. But yeah it’s obviously very sad
Rich grown adults probably messed with the wrong brotha it happens all the time I live in a college town here too in Michigan and when these so called kids , get drunk they mess with people I see it all the time
Dude they were at class on a Monday please shut up.
Domestic terrorism. Is Joe Biden going to visit the victim's families?
blame the victims...
a liberal by chance?
Oh so that justifies it? Grown adults don’t go around shooting people. Mentally ill people do.
@@Faerienice it does not justify anything. What I’m simply saying is that maybe these college students may have got into an altercation with the killer . It happens a lot here . I see these students get drunk, high on drugs and make fun of people, act violent , antagonize a whole neighborhood with their partying which may be the case here
I bet it was another MAGA/Trump supporter. So sad for the families and friends. The trauma will last forever.
Why would you think that? It’s probably a liberal so the left can push their gun control bs narrative
It was a Barack O'Jogger.
Doesn’t matter who it was people were killed bro
Quit blaming others for these situations your being singleminded @Captain Saveaho
Not a single Trumo supporter has been involved in a mass shooting libtard.
fight or flight , and he ran?
Yes I’d like to see you while unarmed rush in to fight a guy shooting at you and your classmates. 😂 easy to talk tough over a keyboard eh big boy?
@@flew6641 i never talk tough. i asked why his instinct was to run , instead of defend himself and others. so if that is talking tough , then i guess i was talking tough. i'll just go play video games, and be a real badass.
It's a story. I blame the weak writing of the script this Demolay twink was handed.
Why hadn’t any of the students step up to do more???
You expect untrained students who might not even be legal adults to do more?🤦🏾♂️
Probably cause someone was shooting at them joe
@@esils Yes..
@@joehickey7262 in the history of mankind, when has that ever happened? Never! Therefore, your expectations are unrealistic 🤦🏽♂️