HDMI 2.1 ✅ 8K ✅ Yamaha RX-A8A Home Theater Receiver Review
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- We review the Yamaha RX-A8A receiver.
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11.2-channel 150-Watt powerful surround sound with Zone 2/3/4
4K120 and 8K60 HDMI and HDR10+ with HDCP 2.3 and eARC (7 in/3 out)
Dolby Atmos® with Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization and DTS:X® with CINEMA DSP HD3
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0:00 SPECS
3:54 SETUP
5:16 SETTINGS
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IMHO this is probably the most spot on review of the RXa8a to date . On mine, I also prefer the YPAO equalization set to the flat response curve. Despite my love of Yamaha's build and sound quality. I do wish they would put a greater priority on getting their firmware updates out. I am not a big fan of being an UN-paid Beta tester for a $3k plus receiver.
I agree 💯, I think they are having issues getting the new technology (SOC) chip set working. When they get their stuff together I think this will be the way forward.
The VRR/QMS/QFT firmware is done and it's already working. The reason it is not out yet is because Yamaha is waiting for an official certification for those features to be passed. Unlike some (you-know-who) other manufacturers that passed through those features without certification and then faced a shit ton of issues when their products were already out in the market (*hint* separate HDMI box lul? *wink), Yamaha prefers to have absolute 100% certainty everything is working and certified before releasing a public firmware update.
This is how Yamaha has stayed on top of reliability for the past decade.
The VRR and ALLM is now available as per September FW update, which makes Yamaha the first AVR to support HDMI 2.1 with VRR/ALLM with all their input ports - I believe. And they have thrown in the quite impressive Auro-3D upmix as well just for good measure.
I have a question for you: can you see "hdmi 2.1" in the hdcp version menu? All I can select is 1,4 or auto...(version 1.80) I find it very bizarre. In my thoughts, it would be visible and selectable, isn't it? Thanks
@@francoislavallee8612 You will need to go into the video format setting and make sure all the inputs are set to 8k @ 60 hertz setting. You will also want to ensure the TV you are using is set to handle the signal as well or it will down convert. Search you tube there are a number of videos that show how to navigate the menus to enable the settings.
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Well done, Shane and team! 👏🏻
Great review!
Excellent video! Editing and explanations are top notch 👍
I can imagine this being a huge help for people who's just starting up!
Yes, a great walk-through! Thanks Shane & co.
Waiting on mine 💪
Shane with a review for the masses. Many people will be very happy
I'm here for the people.
@@therealshanelee 😅🤣😭
Thanks for the video. Receiver was very nice.
thx for this review realy handy
Great review Shane! I still have and love my RXA3070. Compared to the other mainstream flagships where would you rank the Yammy?
Xlr inputs/outputs is awesome!! And Ess 9026 pro! And it being 50 lbs!
Excellent review!!!! Good idea to cite Audioholic's recommendation for the impedance setting. I'm seriously considering replacing my older Yamaha AV receiver to either an RX-A4A or A6A. The newest firmware update is version 1.96 per Yamaha's website.
I own the RX-A6A, a step down from the flagship reviewed here, and couldn't be happier with my purchase, of course this was after doing the very recent firmware update that gives you 4K 120hz, 8K 60hz support.
I'm running the system with out of box settings, I'll run the calibration at some point down the road.
But very happy so far.
I got mine today.. A6A
Muito bom o vídeo Shane 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Always had Yamaha, RX-860 Aventage befor & for now since one Year ago my RX-A6A and I am happy. It is a great AV-R. Build my Speaker Setup from 5.1 to 7.1.2 for now to 9.2.4 plus a Rotel RB 1552 MK II Sounds great, I love the Tones of Features and the Sound who comes out fpr Decades.
This is a very well done review being a Avantage user for 2 years+.Shane hit it spot on. Agree also on Dynamic set to MAXIMUM and YPAO "On, along with Audiohilics recommended setting.
Importantly, Audiohilics also recommended EXTRA BASs set to Off because otherwise it'll do something to the low bass extension and limit your quality bass experience. I've played with that back and forth and completely agree with Gene's assessment.
I would also add to Shane's assessment of playing around with PEQ. I'd say you must tweak and set your Gain up a couple of DBs from bands 1-7 for ALL your channels.Then see for yourself and results are transformational compared to any of the preset EQ settings..... For example:
Go to 13:06. Then set the first 4 bands to +3.0db and leave Q as is because that's wayyy to complicated and advanced to get into. Finally set and also increase the last 3 bands to between +4db and +5db. Listen, listen, listen to before and after!!! You can play with that but definitely increase from the stock 0db gain EQ setting. Then you can increase your subwoofers 1 and 2 gain about +3 for all the 4 EQ bands.. Again that's give and take..
Please note I did all these tweaks after of course running YPAO and verifying my that all speaker levels were accurate with a decibel meter.
I'd say results can vary somewhat depending on everyone's speaker system. But regardless by tweaking as mentioned more or less, I can assure you results will be transformational compared to any "stock" EQ Preset setting... Bon appetite and hope it helps and also throw me some pointers upon your experiences or something I'm missing...
Why do you say the Q factor is too advanced to get into? It's just the width of the band essentially. Very narrow and sharp or wide and slow or anywhere in between
@@Jon-nz3dm you're on point!. What I mentioned is for your average user in order to get most out of their Yamaha's without having to run a sweep test with a laptop and software in order to determine any peaks throughout the bandwidth. Remember that I use this method for my personal space, using my ears as a basic tool so I can reach what for me sounds reasonably better than stock EQ presets. I'll be running REW in the future. For now I have some basic knowledge on room correction wizard but I have to dive a little deeper into it.
Awesome review. I wonder how it would handle a (not as crazy setup as yours) smaller 11 channel speaker setup?
Thank you for reviewing! I’m still not sure but Nad t778 or A8A !!
Hello Shane lee can you tell me on the A8A or A6A under hdmi control standby sync ON or AUTO? also under standby through ON or AUTO?. thank you. great content as always.🙏.
I use to have a top tier Yamaha unfortunately sum Jachole broke in and precured it for themselves several years ago . They’re gear is the best in my opinion
The top cover is plastic by design but under that you have metal covers,
A cheap and nasty downgrade
Nice
Hey there! I will be getting the a6a model...Q: would you still get a power amplifier to run my Elec Unifi UF5 4 oh speakers ??
Awesome review! It's possible to review the onkyo TXRZ50 and check if he can go to reference level's?
you know about the replacement of cx-a5200 thank you very much ..
The Yamaha receivers got a software update in Aug/2022 that enabled the VRR and ALLM feature (HDMI 2.1)
Purchased the A8 before the Auro 3d firmware update hoping the Auro matic upsampling would include implementation of vog channel. I have Auro speaker configuration for 11.1 but now it seems the vog can't be utilized. Do you have any recommendations on how to setup the A8 for vog channel assignment?
I wonder how will this compare to marantz sr8015
figured it out with the front program button
Can someone kindly confirm how the HDMI outputs works. do all three of them support HDMI 2.1, can you mirror on all of them, can you select different inputs to three different outputs and when selected to different outputs, do they cap the bandwidth to 4K like what Denon, Onkyo, Marantz etc. does?
Been having trouble with lipsync . GUI is not friendly as older amps. Been able to use Denon amp with ease. All lipsync settings been set to default.
Agreed, GUI does not display correctly with Dolby Vision content. I had lip sync issues too, but realised my blu ray player was set to NTSC intead of PAL (Australia) Using 'Processing" on HDMI also causes eARC issues
Is it good to pair Yamaha with Klipsch speakers or Marantz?
Hi, i have seen your yamaha a8a review also I owned a yamaha rx-v483 receiver but want to upgrade to a newer version. So, after the review if you still have this receiver then can you please let me know if it is worth buying this time after more than 1 yr if launch.....thanks in advance.
Hey Shane, another solid review! If you were going with an AVR at this point, would you purchase and be happier with the A8A or the NAD T778? Also, any chance of an upcoming Anthem MRX 740 or 1140 review?
Well the NAD is only 9 channels this is 11. I have more than 9.
I was looking at the same models, t778 a8 and 740 and went with the a8 for reliability in the end. Got sick of hearing people in the forums moan about the fans (t778 and 740) and the bugs that kept popping up (t778)
I suppose its about room eq as well but ypao sounds pretty good in my room, although I've never had arc or Dirac which are supposed to be superior but then having the peq's and the other customisables does make it easy(ish) to change it to your tastes. Definitely not disappointed and happy with my choice.
@@slyfoxx8540 Thanks for sharing your experience. Years ago I had a Yamaha RX-V3300 that was, IMO, insanely good. It didn't have HDMI inputs so I changed to a Denon. At first, I was shocked at how thin it sounded compared to the Yamaha, but I've gotten used to the sound over the years. I guess the newest version of YPAO actually handles bass pretty well so I may have to consider an A6A!
@@cafiveohsrockbandremix9254 yeah I've been very happy with mine, but it's always an option with the right place to test whichever one your looking at and if you're not happy you can return it within the return period, it does give you peace of mind.
@@therealshanelee Hey! How to connect XLR subwoofers to this avr?
Thanks for the quality review, but I have a bone to pick.
Why do reviewers always set everything to flat or make minimum adjustments, or just let room correction do the calibration?
My Aventage out of the box after YPAO sounded gross, but after really dialing it in with the parametric EQ and turning levels up and letting my ears calibrate the sound, it’s excellent.
Also, all (most of) those DSP’s are great, and you “would never use them?” Definitely feels like there’s too much snobbery associated with this hobby nowadays.
Is there some sort of stigma associated with self adjusting and listening to other sound modes outside of pure direct for music?
The DSP mostly sounds unnatural to my ears but it’s addressed in this video. I believe I also mentioned tailoring the sound using the eq to taste as well subwoofer adjustment post calibration so that’s addressed as well. For all the other reviews, I can’t speak for them.
Manually setup most better than YPAO Auto setup bro 👍👍👍👍
i want to buy some AVR nowdays for movies music and also XBOX Series X with LG G2 tv .. what you thnik marantz SR 8015 or this yamaha?
I just ordered the Yamaha a6a. I got it for $1,200 Yamaha factory refurbished. I also got a 3-year warranty with it. Very excited because I am upgrading from a Yamaha 3070. With Wipeout being upgraded I'm hoping for much better base control.
@johnvore can you disable the internal amplifiers when external amps are added? I am looking at getting this and using it as a pre pro for my theater. Thanks again.
Review the onkyo rz50...you know... Something that is a little affordable
i reset the ypoa setup, it sounds far better doing it by ear
Hi Bro..cool review and I'm planning to upgrade my AVR and I have two choices which is, Denon 8500HA and Yamaha A8A , Pls help me which one to choose, I Watch movies a lot than music.
regards
Siva
Don’t buy either IMO. Denon have issues with their HDMI boards it just a manufacturing issue IMO. I had two die in less then two years. They also run very hot. Yamaha is very tinny sounding and not that great. I would look at an Anthem or NAD as alternatives. Just IMO. But stay away from Denon. I used to be a huge fan until I started having issues.
I was in the same boat as you. After doing research and research. Went with the yamaha a6a. Bought mine from our local wholesale Video only store for a great price. A6a has better diminishing return then a8a. Coming from older pioneer elite, sounds amazing! Seems like I got new speakers. Thick musical sound
I'd like to recommend an ARCAM HDR unit. It a high-performance AVR. As well Dirac Live room correction (@no extra charge), the ARCAM AVR20 also has an audiophile grade dac, a huge toroidal transformer, non-of-the-shelf (specially sourced) resistors & capacitors, plus a toroid amplifier. The arcam avr20 has very convincing realistic analogue sound (non-digital sounding), plus the unit is so well balanced, unlike the three mid-price Japanese AVR's I happen to audition, not only does it sound good at low volume, when watching a movie and the sound dynamics change. No more having to reach for the remote control. In fact, I can't recall EVER having to reach for the remote control! And to think cos it's successor, the ARCAM AVR 21 has now been released for quite a while. One can now purchase the avr20 for nearly half price (£2,000)
It's the best sounding AVR I've heard to date.
This receiver is truly a masterpiece. (this unit is not meant for the average user) This is only for those who clearly understand what an HT receiver is. the A6A is literally identical to it. I live in the UK but the weight of my A6A and measurements are the same as the A8A. they either made a mistake. because my unit weighs 47 pounds without the box. total weight is 52
pounds. it is recommended to listen to Audioholics to get to know all the details. this unit can easily reach 176 WPC at 8 ohms. making it the most powerful unit currently available even in June 2023.
Stop talking out your ass, it runs b/t 4.2. Whereas b/t 5.0 has been out since 2017.
Think that remote goes back at least since the xx70 series. Have that remote for my TSR 7850.
The last one I remember having was a silver one with a flip out door. That was a very long time ago though. Can’t remember the model though.
@@therealshanelee Remember that as well. I bought a 3040 last summer off marketplace that had that style remote.
Adaptive DSP Level on or off?
I would avoid anything with 8k until they fix the Panasonic chip All these mid range receives use the same faulty chip. Nothing is coming out in true 8k anyway. Its a total farce IMO. More bandwidth for high end gaming but really that’s it. I would rather have a better receiver without 8k.
Hi Shane, between the Yamaha A8A and Denon X6700H, which you think is best for 7.2.4 without separates amps?
same question!
I prefer Yamaha because of Dialog Lift (center speaker voice below the TV gets rised from level 1-5, so the voice comes from the TV), the DSP programs and because I like the brand because they make good E-pianos.
The metal frame on top is under the plastic cover
But is the top plastic?
I always love Yamaha receivers vs pioneer elite, I would like to know if this model carries Ai surround sound
I have the RX-A6A and it indeed does have Ai Surround. I keep it on for most of my daily listening and disable it for 2 channel sources.
Briefly considered this one, but went with the NAD T778 instead. I prefer Class D, don't need more than 4K passthrough as it's being hooked up on my 1440p extra PC monitor for my office setup, and the Yamaha is just way too big to fit without making drastic modifications to my desk setup. And last but not least, the NAD has Dirac, which the Yamaha does not.
I'm sure the Yamaha is a great receiver though.
I use to have the Yamaha A8A, but I had to return it because it was missing a lot of updates at that time. I remember when I try to set it up I ran into a lot of problems because of the missing update it made it nearly impossible to teak it correctly. In the long run, I ended up buying the Marantz SR-8015 & the Denon AVR-8500HA, and I'm very happy with their performance on Home Theater & Music. Plus, they didn't need a lot of updates to set them up either. I use to be a big Yamaha fan, but when I discovered the Marantz & Denon sound its been on turning back since I 'm very happy with their overall performance.
cannot get this receiver to receiver display ATMOS when watching ATMOS content, even with 11 speakers and 2 subs. everything is set to auto and new correct hdmi cables. You can hear the ATMOS but don't see it on the receiver display
I don't own a Yamaha receiver, but have you checked your TV sound settings are on bitstream. If you are using a disc player, output the audio as bitstream too, then you are sending it "as is" and leaving it up to the receiver to decode the audio. If you choose to have the player output the audio as pcm, then you are asking the player to decode the audio before it sends it to the receiver.
For What It's Worth, I hope this helps. Good luck, my fellow listener.
Exceptionally detailed review, thanks.
Unfortunately the new YAMAHA AVR designs are horrible.
- Why the "cyclops look" YAMAHA ? Worst designed AVRs ever... But, why ?
It’s not about the “look”. The volume control is centred because of the new H-frame design to reduce vibrations in the unit . For practical reasons, this is why the control knob is centred
Nice review..sorry if you mentioned it but is remote back-lit?
No
I have the 3080 and its backlit and I'm pretty sure the A6A and A8A also have backlit remotes given its almost the same.
yes it is
I have the A8A and the remote is beautifully backlited and turns on by itself when you grab it.
Yes it’s back-lit, and motion triggered!
But the motion trigger wasn’t as sensitive as like say a Shield Tv remote…
No Voice of God channel at this price range? Is that something that can be done in a firmware update? I'd be looking elsewhere if not. Great review as always!
Dang looks like a no-go for Auro 3d. Will have a 5.2.6 setup.
Noone cares about auro 🤣
Noone cares about auro, you may want to not worry about them given the bankruptcy. Garbage anyhow.
@@WoLShiverify Anyone who throws out an opinion without basing anything in fact is asking to be ignored. Didn't know about the bankruptcy though, that's too bad.
@@sirjared21 I have 141 4k movies. 9 have auro. Gene @audio says himself it's practically a 9ch stereo. Based on my f4k films alone, I can confidently say noone cares, and by noone I can say very very few people, enough to not even add it.
Nothing wrong with this receiver at the mid FI level for 11.2
@@WoLShiverify I knew it was only big in Europe but the fact Auro doesn't compress the audio signal (like dtsx & Atmos) and the fact it has the upmixer which can even work on stereo movies/shows really sounded great. Plus I watched a few popular audio reviewers who all had great things to say about it.
So the fact you say it's garbage really just tells me you've made up your mind without doing objective comparisons.
Have u compared this to the Denon x4700h? If so, in your opinion, which one sounds cleaner movie watching? I’m having trouble deciding. I’ve heard the 4700h and it sounds amazing, not sure about Yamaha. I’m looking to upgrade my Yamaha TSR-700 as it has a “crowded” sound as if my room is small eventho it’s bigger than my brothers living room which he has the Denon and his living room sounds bigger than it really is. I feel the TSR700 is having trouble bringing out the low ends, and while I know A6A and A8A is a higher class, just don’t want to be disappointed.
I was debating between the 4700h and a6a. Herd both. To me yamaha sounded more fuller in music 🎶 don't forget they are world leading in professional audio instruments/commercial audio equipment. Yamaha physically looks more modern, it's heavier, more furniture proof, has stereo balanced inputs, awesome analog preamp when connecting separate amp
@@joelkuznetsov2826 all the reasons you have stated is why I am leaning towards Yamaha, and looking modern is icing on the cake. My current setup is 5.2.2 with the rear ceiling speakers doubling up as F. Presence (not a true 5.2.4). Since my post, I have rearrange my Main Speakers and subs, sounds way better, but I feel like once I upgrade I’ll be even happier. When I upgrade I will be doing true 5.2.4 (2 subs). They are so expensive still.
@@arisistible1 I'm running 5.2.2 my self as well, front up firing speakers. Fronts elac unifi uf5 rear jamo c603 and 2 12in monolith subs. Got supper Lucky with the subs... ordered one and some how received 2... ☺️. Got to keep it. Yamaha aventage a6a made the system sound very clean. Love the high res streaming
@@joelkuznetsov2826 that’s awesome and reassuring to hear
Can I calibrate the 2 subwoofers independently?
yes
@@3184Patrick How do you do that? I wasn't able to do it successfully.
@@jackc8120 when your in manual setup you setup for two subs. Can pick left/right or front rear. Setup as mono then go to automatic setup. When ypao runs it will test both subs.
Anybody can see hdmi 2.1 in the menu? All I can select is 1,4 or auto...(version 1.80) Thanks
You need to change HDMI cables for more expensive one's
@@Patsan4ik1 I did it and nothing more happended...
@@francoislavallee8612 hmm🤔
The plastic top and front are cosmetic ... Has a thick metal top under the plastic top ... Same on the front ... The remote is back lit ... Just a few facts that weren't correct ...
yep
So the top is indeed plastic as well as the front. So that is not incorrect. This sample has been around to many reviewers so the backlight wasn’t working. Plus I didn’t mention it does not have backlight in the video. You may want to rewatch and get your facts straight.
@@therealshanelee the metals below the plastic isn't it?
@@therealshanelee ... Shane maybe you should go back and read ya comment about the remote be backlighted ... Someone asked you that question and you replied ... NO ... The top and front are steel plated with COSMETIC PLASTIC over the top and front panel's ... Maybe ... Just Maybe you should do some research before spouting on about things you've not sure about and putting out false narratives ... You could have asked if these were in fact true before you throw a little tantrum in reply ...
@@rainman3269 you still don't know how to pay attention. My remote didnt have back light. The rest is all fact. What don't you comprehend? Go back and pay attention and stop being emotional.
You did the angle height measurement WRONG. For the 4th measurement, the mic should be placed at the the height ABOVE measurements 1 through 3 ( use t he Included bar).
You are correct it does go on the included stand. But if you payed attention to the video "SHORTENED VERSION OF YPAO TO SAVE TIME" appears on screen.
Hey, man. You forgot to leave a link to YOUR video on how to do it correctly. Just sayin’………
Yes the stand have to be set assembled the whole time with the height pole, It was spot on in my A8, but stubborn (wouldn’t let me adjusted manually after making some seat adjustments, have to run the whole thing again)
I Never buy egain a Yamaha , becase remote control last less than two years probably and you just have access to all functions thru it.
2:57 umm
Yamaha seriously lacks good Visual implementation in an AVR.
The top grill , a cosmetic-only grill, is plastic . HOWEVER, a sturdy metal grill is hidden underneath 😀
Doesn’t change the fact it’s all plastic.
@@therealshanelee Well you said “grills” which is PLURAL and that you were “surprised” Yamaha had gone with plastic. Of course, you can argue the outer shell is all plastic , which it is . But if you are mentioning a “surprise” it goes to a quality inference and therefore a mention of an internal metal grill would have been appropriate and prevent numerous comments by others making same comment as I have 😀
@@movieflicktube they have not had a flagship avr with a plastic enclosure/ grills
before. Hence me being surprised. The numerous comments stating theres metal underneath. So what. I did not discuss the inner design elements. Fact of the matter is. It's plastic on the outside. I'm sure you understand that and what is being said in the video.
@@movieflicktube I totally agree with you! This spare change reviewer is extremely thin skinned.
Exactly, who argues it's metal underneath when your point is how they yamaha have mega cheaped out compared to previous adventage designs for 10 years.
Too much gimmicks Yamaha needs a Z11 replacement well overdue
Ya-ma-ha and not Yamma-ha
That makes zero sense.
Way too much plastic on this receiver. Not digging the overall aesthetics. Yamaha dropped the ball on that. There's nothing wrong with having a metal front plate and knobs on the side. Looks way better than this. Display is tiny too. I'm sure its a great performer but it wouldnt look good in my theater room.
It runs bt 4.2, it's a joke or something, their 3 last models ALL used bt 4.2, even though bt 5 has been out since 2016
@@user-me7wp8zo3e yea they need to get their shit together. they didnt even HAVE blutooth on some of their models when it had been in existence for a while already.
I just can't get past their interface and GUI. They are just terrible. Who thought it was a good idea to hide what Surround you are using? If it's in Atmos or DTS:X, I want it to display that. Not just say "Surround Decoder"
You can always check the info screen.
You have to change it in settings then its on the display the whole time.
Yamaha are slowly backing out of their top end adventage systems imo.
Yamaha have been lagging behind denon recently when Yamaha were leading the home cinema market
Surround:AI was great on the RX-A3080 but the severely lacking YPAO RoomEQ and the fact that Yamaha doesn't make anything with an adequate number of channels for my 7.2.6 Setup takes Yamaha out of the equation for me...🤷♂️
you know very little...
@@wa2368 That is true. What exactly are you referring to though?
@@rolandrohde i think that the a8a is a 13 channel avr but only 11 of them are powered so with another amp you could use it to suit you're needs, at least that's what I think that other person meant.
@@kingdip91
The A8A can only handle 11 Channels. It has neither amplification nor processing for 13, unlike my Denon X6700
@xperia
I am very happy with it, especially since I got the Multeq-X application.
All I really miss is Surround:AI
No a good av amp
They are all junk as they can't handshake with projector. Never again.
Wouldn't buy again. That piece of equipment keep on turning on by itself. Tried everything without success.
I am 64 years old. I have owned the Yamaha recivers since, prior to AC 5.1 Days. Yes Prior to AC 5.1 came out. I built my home theater before 23 years ago. Yes Before it came about.. Been updating ever since. Except the first one, I thought seperate would be good. Sold my first yamaha reciver ..and bought my ADCOM HT 5.1 system ...Regreted it. Ever since bought YAMAMA Only. ADCOM Music system is good. But HT No way... YAMAHA only!
I love Yamaha Receivers but am I the only one who thinks their new models are ugly af? 🫤
I'm a fan of the brand, I have power mxa-5000, I already had a rxa-3040 avantage receiver, but these new models I found very ugly too! looks like it was designed by an intern! I laugh at that viewfinder, downgrade from the previous avantage line. sorry my english googletranlator.
To go AVR is a major fuckup, I think they are abandoning Adventage imo.