When your husband says he's a woman...
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This is actually one of the saddest topics. Also, should note, this isn't just a hetero thing. But, it seems a lot less frequent in other couple pairings. It's genuinely gross how much pressure people are put under to stay in these situations and "affirm" their partners. Yeesh.
Finally, Sydney has come back! 😁
Always excited to see Sydney post a video on her channel.
Just say you hate trans genders
I agree. If a husband or wife is straight and their partner transitions into the other gender then it shouldn't be unusual for them to want to break up or divorce. Their parnter transitioning isn't going to the other partner gay, bi or, pan. However, I think Chris coming out was for the best because if they had his this want then it would've put a strain on their relationship with his wife and child that likely would've resulted in a divorce anyways. It's etter to get a divorce with someone you aren't going to be compatible with before a massive confrontation than after one.
That really does seem torturous. Even Mr Beast looks like he's lost his best friend and isn't even allowed to grieve.
@sydnetwatson Hey beautiful after we marry, I guarantee you won’t have to worry about me ever transitioning 😍😘
I love how on one hand they say gender is just a construct but then they wear make-up and dresses to identify as a woman.
Hypocritical.
It's not supposed to make sense. It's supposed to confuse you. No matter what theu always think they're right, even if they contradict themselves.
Exactly. They make these wild claims to basically say it means nothing and that there is no binary to gender, and then they start comfortably in the binary system of gender. You can't have these conversations because they'll just insult and label to silence you. Society is falling apart. That's really all there is to it. The ones left will be those who didn't fall for the nonsense. Maybe this is nature's funny way of weeding out the weak ones to self correct. We are still in the survival of the fittest paradigm. It just doesn't look like predator and prey anymore. It's weak and strong minds.
There's nothing hypocritical about it, gender is a social construct and some people want to be of a different gender so they take on the social implications of that gender, lol. This isn't exactly complicated buddy
@@applefarm6126 literally how?
If he comes out and says he always felt he was a woman, yet still got married and had a child, especially in this day and age, he’s disgusting
I think that's how it works. You have to say that you have always been a woman bc otherwise you would have to admit that you have been influenced by the mob.
He's already disgusting for divorcing his wife and abandoning fatherhood.
@@tylerchapman9234 absolutely. I don’t know how people can’t wrap their head around the fact this is a social contagion
I think they're going through a divorce
A woman I know is doing this to her family after 18 years of marriage and 25 year long relationship.
My wife wants me to be understanding.
But all I can think about is her soon to be ex husband and their 2 teenage kids, who's lives are being ripped apart because she's terminally online and infected with the woke mind virus.
My ex started cross dressing and started identifying as a woman soon after we had discovered I was pregnant in 2014. I had tried to help him work it out but in the end had to leave because he became manipulative and dangerous with his drunk rages. Years later, after analyzing it, I think he had a breakdown. He had a terrible childhood and when confronted with the responsibility of a child he just lost it. Possibly because he was afraid he'd be like his dad. And no he wouldn't go to counseling for it.
I can say he had a bad childhood. His parents were divorced and his father was abusive. Both parents doing drugs and he bounced back and forth between houses because he had behavior issues. He never had a stable environment. He recently passed away after overdosing to which I am heart broken.
I'm not talkimg bad about him rather I want everyone to learn from it. A stable environment with loving parents is essential for a child's development and well being. Love your children. Hug them everyday and don't talk to them like you talk to yourself. Don't be too harsh on them. They're kids. And, for the love of God, keep them off of cellphones and tablets. Let them play outside.
sorry for your lose. as for the stable environment. dont forget that a healthy stable environment includes a male and female figure in the childs life as in Father and mother. It is proven fact that kids with both parents do better in life. but it seems that this is slowly disappearing and it terrifies me for the future of my children. We all should be putting our efforts towards making sure all families have a healthy stable environment. kids really are our future. Adults were kids at one point and the choices made when they were kids effect the choices in adulthood. it is all linked. As for technology limit use to 2 hr a day or less is good.
Trans people are also loved people. I was a very loved child, had everything to read, had present caring parents, and... Trans. Love your children don't matter what and accept them if they discover more about themselves later, going blind is difficult. I trusted my parents, so I came out early, they learned quickly, and everything is a peace at home, even my grandma knows about gender neutral pronouns. 🎉
Phenomenal thoughts. Thank you so much for sharing.
YES, KEEP THEM OFF DEVICES, THE INTERNET IS CANCER FOR CHILDREN.
@@liriolira1772 Don't tell me you ACTUALLY believe you can be a different gender?
@@liriolira1772 I also hope you realize there is no such thing as "they/them" pronouns for one person (unless if a person's gender is unknown).
I am a trans-widow. It’s painful and lonely and I don’t know what to do. My “husband” wants to come out as a (as he calls it) girl. We have gotten into many of fights over this and he can’t comprehend why I want to leave. I’m being called a horrible person and transphobic because I want my husband back. I feel like I’m grieving and have no right to. Now he wants to tell our son and that’s something I won’t allow.
It sounds like you built a life with him and then he did a rug pull on your entire life. Do what's best for you and your son, don't apologize. You're defintely not a horrible person.
@@mandypepper Not at the expense of our family. He should have been honest with me from the beginning so I wouldn’t of wasted 16 years with him.
@@robinbozeman6215 I hope you can keep your children without them knowing those absolutely idiotic choices of ur husband/ex husband, don’t worry I’m praying you get out of this okay
@@mandypepper They both do but he did not have the right to take her happiness and throw it in s garbage can.
It is a loss. It's like a death of something. It's okay to grieve it. It's okay to move on.
Not a trans situation but something similar happened to a good friend from high school recently. Her husband of 20+ years told her that he was gay and had always been so. He packed up and left and she was now facing a world in which she'd just spent the past two decades of her life essentially blindsided.
What made it worse is that the public reaction was that "he was so brave for coming out" and "it took a lot of courage" while there seemed to be little sympathy for the woman who sacrificed her years to help raise their child and support his career. The public support only seems to flow one way and that's truly sad.
Very much the same for women who discover they are gay and abandon their husbands. I feel that is even more accepted than anything else which is worrisome.
I know of a classmate who publicly stated that he had wished he had wrote his "term paper" about his dad coming out as gay... and yup, most of our classmates were all head over heels to be "supportive" of his dad. 🤦
I never really thought about how his mother must have felt, but it seemed I was the only person who was willing to state how completely screwed up that was (as I couldn't have cared less whether or not all of my "clicky" classmates thought I was a "phobe"). As you could guess, I had plenty of my idiot classmates making comments about how stupid I was despite the fact they all knew I ranked in the top % of the class! 🤣
Oh well, you see, the bible tells women we exist for men or children never for ourselves. that's some powerful cult conditioning right there
I hate that people call it brave. It's literally the least brave thing in 2023, you're celebrated for it, not shamed.
@@dragonfox2.058 It’s not a cult (people can leave the faith if they choose), and that’s not what the Bible says.
I personally watched this happen. Happily married couple, he starts dressing and acting more femme, she’s initially supportive, but as he goes further and further things become really strained. Eventually they divorce so he can “live his authentic life” as a woman. So a great wife and two small kids are left in the dust so that he can turn himself into a catty, obnoxious, wannabe pronstar with ridiculous fake bewbs and fry-dyed long blonde hair, in his late 40’s.
It was the most selfish thing I’ve ever seen a human do.
@T B that's a very harmful blanket statement. don't assume everyone is like that. also love that intentional misgendering for the ex wife mentioned above. transphobes oof.
@@nayladoodles2123 he didnt even make a blanket statement, he said "a lot of that" comes from porn addiction. do you just say "transphobes" and leave it at that because you can't say anything against their point, or because you are unable to empathize with someone who doesn't fit in your ideology?
They didn't have to be left in the dust, she could've stayed
@@nayladoodles2123 there’s that word again when someone doesn’t agree with you 🤦🏻💀
@@nayladoodles2123 oh shut up
When you read "You can't say daddy anymore" I literally almost started crying. These people are selfish- and make me ill.
Little Girl: Daddy, I'm hungry
Twitter: STOP SEXUALIZING THAT LITTLE GIRL.
I'm glad your sense of self inside, matches your outside appearance, so you too don't need to be, "selfish."
@@LauraFunFunFloweries if someone feels like a woman in a man's body, maybe they should tell their wife that before marrying her
Don't forget about the multitude of trans widows who've been silenced in such a way because if they ever speak up on their graveless grieving or how it affected their family and children. They are seen as bigots and transphobes and if they do try to search for resources for help, usually they are led towards the resources of affirmation, inclusion, and acceptance rather than processing loss.
What is the problem? People change and kids and other family members need to have unconditional love for one another. Who cares what they look like? They didn't die
When Chris said he “had the full support of his 2 year old son”….
That is what a narcissist says.
It is never a kid’s job, ESPECIALLY a toddler, to support their parents.
Nobody said the boy needs to support him. Chris can do what he wants, I don't understand how this affects his son in anyway.... he's still in his kids life.
@@LeahBreHappywhat do you mean how does this affect this son in any way? His father is trying to be a woman ... he left his family, his son lost a male rolemodel, his father doesn't know who the f he is and is playing into a trend of being lost in your own identity ... disgusting honestly
Right? Like what kinda support is a 2 yr old going to actually be able to give? They don't even understand the complexities of the situation. It's actually sad how we put this burden on children and act like everything's okay because the child says it's okay. The child says it's okay because to them you are their world and as long as you're smiling they don't really care and they don't know what else is going on.
@@MurakiChiyo I mean you don't know him or his son at all... these are just worries and judgments you have on the poor boy. Maybe don't act like you know what's going on in someone's life until you are around them and see it for yourself
@@LeahBreHappy Knowing someone is irrelevant, humans are all the same, even you lol, your mind and who you are is on full display
My mom was a transwidow before there was really a word for it. My mom back in the 70s started finding her clothes were stretched out and worn. Turns out my dad was starting to wear her clothes and then asking for her to buy him his own underwear, slips, etc. My mom thought it was super weird but she also thought maybe this is something wives have to do. It wasnt until one day when I was born and he was holding me (an infant girl) that he asked what she would do if he was sexually attracted to me. That was it. My mom left. Back then states did not go after chidl support in the way they do now. He was in a different state, my mom didnt have any money, etc, She kept all of this a secret since she felt like she would be judged as the problem. I didnt find out until years later when my "sperm donor" tried to connect with me. I TRIED at the time - but then he got awfully weird. He was a "trans lesbian" and he started to send me constant selfies of his cleavage, his legs, etc - and the straw for me was when he would send me Christmas cards he made of half naked women dressed as santas. I am grateful in the sense he reached out to me since I was able to connect with my half sister - who I found out a few years later had been molested by our sperm donor before her parents divorced. He is an AGP of the textbook definition and a predator. Truthfully he should not be able to be in private womens spaces.
Your story is a good example of the fact that a lot of these people who ‘transition’ are actually just playing out fetishes. It’s disgusting.
Sorry you went through that.
I'm pretty sure that your Dad has autogynephilia more so than Trans. Surprised he isn't locked up.
This story needs to be heard on big platforms. Too many of these trans folks fit into how you described your sperm donor. Especially the people pushing for children to transition early
What the actual fuck….. I’m so sorry
And people will actually fight for his right to be in women's changing rooms, where's feminism when you actually need it?
I didn't realise there was a name for it, but I am in fact a transwidow (ex husband came out to me 3 months after our wedding). I was effectively pressured into accepting it, being told that I was the only one that didn't take it well, while all their friends and family accepted it and encouraged the transition. I on the other hand questioned everything; my sexuality, my future, hell I even questioned my own femininity. I accepted their transition, and offered to help, gave them some of my old clothes, but they instead sought counsel elsewhere, while I sat at home.
I was left behind, nobody asked how I was, how I was taking it/handling it. The marriage ended when I caught them on dating apps (twice) and then THEY told ME they didn't love me anymore and wanted a divorce.
I moved to a different country to start again. It's been hard.
Thanks Sydney for actually bringing this to people's attention, I don't think everyone realises that when someone transitions and finally comes to terms with who they are, their partner also has a lot of work to do, and also, in a way, has to transition, against their will. I was called a bigot, a transphobe, a homophobe, all these names under the sun because I wanted a husband, not a wife.
From what you wrote, why are you using NB pronouns?? So odd... to be injured by this fad, and STILL buying in to it. Emotional pain is SOOO damaging! But, WHY??
I'm so sorry this happened to you, but I hope you can see now you dodged a bullet in losing that narc.
"He"
@@bicicogito989 people can be who they want to be, and i do my best to accept.
I guess it's just a habit; I tried to accept it and worked hard on not using masculine language. I don't like using the preffered pronouns, but I still seem to correct myself when I do.
And anyway, if I use he/him, it makes me think that my husband is still alive. If I use they/them, it's less personable and I can distance myself from the person I thought I knew and loved.
@@genniebee8573 Losing someone that you love, or used to love, can be grievously painful. Wish that I could comfort you in a real manner.
Thank you for taking the time/effort in elaborating upon the pronouns you used here. Your answer is much clearer than my imperfect question. Again, thank you.
This happened to me. I got married (the first time) to a man. About 8 months into our brand new marriage I was informed that he was trans and wanted to be a woman. I was devastated. We went to "support group" meetings where I was made to feel like I was a bad baaaaaad person if I didn't "love my partners soul". My husband also uses my bisexuality as a blanket. It was gonna be fine. I'd still love and find him attractive because I'm bi. Which is not how that works. I stomached him wearing wigs and women's clothes and doing makeup even though it made me feel vile inside. I married a man. And I didn't want a 6'3, broad shouldered woman who was going to look exactly like my Mother In Law. But I hung on for 4 more years as he treated me like garbage, drug me all over the country, quit job after job. I really feel for Chris' wife. It's heartbreaking and world shattering when the man you thought would lead your family decided they're a woman and it becomes your responsibility to be a "good wife" and stick with them. It's vile and selfish.
@@lololollololol-td4ew Aww. Stick in there, li'l buddy. Eventually you'll learn how to get the attention you crave. You just need to get good.
Nah your in hypocrisy of "bi". Bi means equality amoungst both. And if he identifies as a woman. If you reject that. Your a hypocrite. And you married the wrong man. It's that simple
Fsxking trolls 🙄
It's stunning for me, a gay person, to hear stories like this. I am NOT attracted to women's bodies, regardless of the souls. Society spent years wrapping its head around homosexuality, and then things like this happen. Suddenly we're offended again that people have a sexual orientation!? Common sense grows less common by the day! And even for bisexuals, they aren't attracted to all people who present in every kind of way! I totally understand how even bi people can lose attraction when their spouse completely changes presentation and even their body. I'm sorry you had to experience this struggle firsthand.
Real question. Weren't there any warning signs? Like this was completely out of the blue? Like nothing?
I think it's extremely disrespectful for a man to watch his wife grow and birth his child, and then go on to claim that he is ALSO a woman.. LIKE WHAT
and it's very common!!
It’s so sad for trans widows and the kids when a man choses his fetish over his family. They go through so much gaslighting.
First of all you do realize he was already divorced right? And second of all why do you think it's in your place to decide that he has a fetish? Also you shouldn't kink shame, lol. I used to kink shame a lot but then I learned you can't knock it till you try it
@@cheesemakerkeesee395 First of all, i was speaking of trans widows in general. Second autogynephilia is a fetish and what drives 99.7% of the men who come out as “trans” in their later years. Finally, kinks and fetishes are the result of unresolved psychological issues and they should be shamed so people get the proper help they need in the form of therapy.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395 degenerate
@@cheesemakerkeesee395 - I just checked out your channel and you’re the exact person I expected you to be. Lord help you. I mean that sincerely.
@@gnarlycat - I couldn’t have said it better myself.
My girlfriend of seven years decided to transition to male back in 2016. I think the term widow/widower is really accurate in a way because that person I knew and fell in love with is gone in every way you can think of.
Oh my gosh! How old was she?
It often happens then youth starts attending college/universities.
Really sorry dude💔
Thats sad but the person you fell in love with wasn't real to start with
@@ashleybrown5883 That's part of the hurt. If you've never been fooled by someone who was fake, count your blessings.
my exe gf is now a trans male. I was indirectly informed by her dressing like a man and cutting her hair army style. Never had any thoughts about transitioning for 11 years. Spent lots of time online with "friends" who convinced her to try it out. This obviously ended our relationship. I think this was done for the wrong reasons (I base this on our 11 years together). I'm realizing that many detransition once they can't stand the complications that they go through and can't find support from their surroundings. It's a sad realization. I will not be accepting my exe back should she detransition. Hormones change a person's personality and psyche. This is no longer and will never be the one I cared about years ago.
I'm sorry you went through that and I would feel/do the same. wishing you the best
R/late lesbianblommers said eveb if my parenter transitions to be a man im calling her my wife. Transman who dicvred husband comments on rita ora's husabands post of wife appriacation while on her won instahgram page she mocks her own ex-husband. Alog with all the degarding of men and AFAB people degrade towards AMAB and that tiwards AMAB gay men.
"Hormones change a person's personality and psyche" This! The effects of hormones NEED to be discussed (especially with children). But regardless of age, I wish more people would talk about this, and it seems to only worsen the situation.
I'm really sorry you had to go through that. Jesus loves you! Have a blessed day!
I remember noticing the beginnings of this phenomena probably a decade ago now. A man had made a couple of UA-cam video telling his story. How he'd always thought both women and men were beautiful, but didn't realize he was really gay till he got drunk and fooled around with some guy at a party. So he left his wife and started dating men. He and his wife also had an elementary school aged daughter. What struck me about the story wasn't that he was an awful man who ruined his marriage and greatly damaged the lives of his wife and kid for his own selfishness. But that the internet was CELEBRATING him for it. I just couldn't fathom how people thought that him "discovering his true self and true sexuality" made abandoning his vows and his family not only permissible but a good thing. In hindsight, I should have seen the writing on the wall then and realized what our culture was in the process of turning into. Though nowadays it's transgenderism that turns your sins into virtues, and not simply "coming out".
I personally say that’s cheating on the marriage/relationship and grounds for divorce. Like, bruh I can’t do nothing with that now🤷🏽♂️
Likewise media gardening personality Alys Fowler, who decided she was lesbian after many years of marriage, had an affair, and proceeded to kick her husband - who has a long-term illness - out of the family home. It's possible that it was actually _her_ house but still.
Lack of thinking is pervasive these days. Very dangerous and very manipulated via propagandas of all sorts, major and minor, unless one really does some critical thinking.
This feels like the even more extreme version of losing a partner after they come out as gay and leave for a same-sex relationship. A lot of the same sentiments were expressed by the widow/ers, that it was impossible to grieve because they would instantly viewed as horrible people, that affirmation was the only "right" way to react. But it is a death, and we should be permitted to mourn. Your relationship has died, your future, your hopes and dreams with this other person. That is devastating! To be essentially told that we aren't "allowed" to mourn in those situations, to feel betrayed or hurt or abandoned, is a cruelty. It is a cruelty committed by a subset of the population that only wants to do for themselves and doesn't want any sort of intrusion that might make them feel like what they're doing is wrong. "Please don't call me out on my crap, it makes me feel bad" is a heck of a thing to affirm.
Selfishness, inwardness, and affirmation… what a terrible, sick and depraved society were creating. My heart is with every single person who has lost their spouse in this way. It’s worse than a death.
The hypocrisy is pretty astounding considering how they themselves believe that 'dead names' are a thing. Refusing to let others mourn for the man or woman that once was but has changed and abandoned those left behind is just an admittance of selfishness and complete lack of compassion on their part.
Hell, in any other divorce, you're allowed to mourn!
It is similar to the loss a parent feels for a trans identifying child. It’s an unmourned death, especially if the child is old enough to legally change their birth name. That’s a gut punch. The path they’re on just spirals down and down.
I always hated those activists that enabled this. And the feckless partners that broke up their marriages because of their warped ego and ideology.
Remember when honor was more common and valued among men? To protect and provide for your family was and still is the greatest thing you could do in your life.
I mean I would say that based on utilitarian principles that's not even remotely correct
Honor is dead
He died a long time ago
Pretty sure this creator is a dude. I can see the Adams apple
No, I thought it was to work corp all the life
Ohhh my goodness Jacob! I thought I was False Memories! I was ready to have myself committed! So those things really did exist! I feel so relieved! Thank you!❤
My heart goes out to these women and children, it's unforgiveable they're just left hanging.
They aren't left hanging
@@LeahBreHappy Do you know any trans widows?
@@LeahBreHappyResponds but doesn’t explain lol
@@nameless.artist1513 people change, life moves on, adapt or die. I was married for 16 years to a man who I thought loved me, he was a jerk and almost tried to kill me. I can either stay with a jerk and cry or gain some strength and leave. Things happen, just have to learn how to deal with it. Chris didn't abandon his kid, his ex wife and kid are still in his life. So yeah. Maybe some abandon their kids but some adult men leave their kids, some adult women leave their kids. It happens. People need to learn that in life things happen that take us by surprise. It's not about what happens, it's about how you deal with what happens!
As a mechanic, the bit where you said "comb your hair, and learn a skill, like welding" gave me a giggle, in the UK there's a ridiculous shortage of young people learning trades, they do theory-based degrees and then go to work at McDonald's
Honestly unless someone is interested in the trade they wont learn it and that applies to everything. Cant force someone to do a job or learn a trade they have zero interest in.
If you get me a greencard I would love to learn a trade in the old country
People always say learn a trade and trades make good money and theirs a shortage of them but I’ve seen people on these trades and most of them don’t make as much as they are suppose to make and if they aren’t lucky to find a union they usually have shit family lives due to being sent all over the country. Depending on the trade you only have so many years in it before your body falls apart. That being said I only know a little bit and it’s in the Midwest of the United States haha so nothing I say is factual in the grand scheme of things.
I think coming out as bisexual when you're married is a huge red flag. Like, why are you announcing what you're attracted to or that it has changed? It doesn't matter anymore, you're married.
Right? The only reason my husband knows I'm bi is because we were friends for a long time before even dating. Otherwise I don't think it would've ever really needed to come up, especially to the public/ our family/ our friends. I ended up with a guy it doesn't matter to me or anyone else anymore🤷🏻♀️
I'm bi and my husband has always been aware. I fully agree with you. Suddenly realizing you're attracted to the sex opposite of your partner's means that there is someone else you're attracted to, which is very close to cheating in my book.
It just goes to show that they lied to you for all these years until they tied you down with marriage. The expectation might be that you're going to be ok letting them experiment, lol. I'm a really accepting person when it comes to Lgb. If my partner waited until marriage to tell me he's bi, I'd reconsider the marriage because clearly there must be more going on otherwise he would have told me earlier. It's just trickle truthing until he would get to the core which is probably that he's actually gay and I'm his beard, or that he's trans and wants to transition, or he wants to be in an open relationship. All of these are deal breakers and they know, which is why they keep this from you until they trapped you with marriage, sometimes even with kids. Just look on the mypartneristrans subreddit.
@@HumanLandslide Do we know if he came out before or at the same time as tweeting about it?
@@CieraMychele You don't talk about your various life experiences? I can't imagine not using past relationships and experience as referencing points and how to troubleshoot on issues. Maybe we just see differently on the topic
I just can't imagine how any woman would feel if all of a sudden her husband said, "I'm going to be a woman now."
Like a death. Anyone even bother checking up on her? Like where is her support?
I would be devastated, and I wouldn't know what to do.
she would be silenced and be cancelled if she dare call it out
@@SK-ut6tw Good point. 👍
@@SK-ut6tw yeah i have heard apparently if the wife or heck i would say husband does not support his soupuse transitioning they get labeled as bigot. as they should apparently love their soupuce no mater the gender.(but then that would mean everyone should be bi sexual) but being gay and lesbian is celerbated. so yeah like how do you handle not being a biggot unless you are bi sexual.
I prefer my dad leaving for cigarettes and not coming back to coming back in drag and stealing my Mum’s clothes
I actually had the exact same thought. Have some respect, and just fkn leave.
Trans siblings/families have very few, if any, resources to cope with the change. My brother announced he wanted to be a woman suddenly in 2019 and I felt such trauma and grief from it that it made me sick for weeks. I confided these feelings in my best friend, who then shamed be for being a bigot and told me I wasn’t “losing a brother, but gaining a sister” and I was furious. It was as if my brother had died, and eventually he did, but the lack of support and feelings I was dealing with was impossible to cope with. It is traumatizing.
Edit: Since a lot of commenters are just proving me right about the fact it's stigmatized to say you don't know how to deal with that change, I'm going to provide some additional context.
1. My brother's first mission upon coming out was to utterly destroy all tangible evidence of his male self. This included precious family photos that were of both of us, that I cherished and did not want destroyed. I offered to just take them away, but that "wasn't good enough" and those photos were destroyed behind my back. Arguing the point of them being good memories we shared meant absolutely nothing to him -- he outright said so. I was floored. He wanted the original photos all shredded, screamed when I suggested making copies instead, and he still insisted he get his way or else I wasn't being supportive. Countless memories from my childhood are now lost forever. They were just as much mine, and I was willing to do my part to keep them "out of sight" so they would not be harmed or remind him of what it was that was paining him. But my pain didn't matter at all here, and people outright supported the manipulation and not me.
2. I was supportive to his face. He never knew I had any doubts or concerns, I did exactly what people are expected to do performatively. It was just devastating to see the toll it took on him to pursue transition, the hormones made him immediately ill. He would also go on long tangents to me about how beautiful he wanted to be, and became incredibly vain. It became clear to me at that point he had a ridiculously hungry ego, and the way he would go on about how much easier he perceived women's lives to be, especially pretty women, made me sick. I was sad for him because I had seen his life prior, but didn't think it was a valid reason to become that shallow, critical, and demanding. Many times he would even say "we" when making criticisms of "our" inherited looks not being good enough, even just berating me separately a few times.
3. The dynamic between the two of us changed seemingly overnight. A brother and sister seldom compete the way two sisters do. Who is the prettier sister? Who is the smarter sister? Who is the richer sister? I had never experienced that before, and that juvenile sort of game was something sisters who grew up that way would likely outgrow for the most part. We were already adults, so I felt like it was ridiculous. I just tried to ignore it until it became inappropriate. He would comment on the size of my breasts, hips, and other body parts that you otherwise wouldn't want your sibling (that you've known your whole life as a *brother*) to be looking at. I was more than uncomfortable.
4. Family damage. I had to clean up the "mess", essentially, and facilitate communication between my adult brother and parents for a long time. They offered to pay for counseling, spent countless hours doing research so they could understand, but because my brother had held onto the impression they wouldn't have been supportive for so long he was unwilling to work with them. We could no longer have family holidays, as my brother refused to show up or even be in the same room as my father. They did have a strained relationship, but my brother was not willing to receive apologies or therapeutic assistance at any point, only the money they offered. I finally broke down and told my parents and brother both that this had to stop because I was tired of being the middleman and therapist to all of them, and that they all needed to grow the F up and work it out because I was done.
There are no guidelines for proper behavior for either side, or really anyone in the family here. And I do not think that it was fair to put the majority of the burden on me, especially if we were both adults. (He was actually older than me, by the way.) I hope that people will eventually understand that this level of change is far more than just surface level and is not isolated to the trans person themselves only.
It's clearly mental illness. Selfish, centered in the ego, and I refuse to believe anything else. Obviously not everyone that is trans will act this selfishly, but using that identity as a shield from consequence is something far more common. It was not my job to steer him in the direction of appropriate behavior. There were no resources to help me navigate going through this. I'm just recounting an experience. I did love him, and tried to be compassionate, but dealing with someone in that state of mind is difficult and saying that does not make someone evil.
How's it traumatising , he's a child and your a child bruv . He's hella weird and your hella sensitive. One of my friend is trans , we laugh at him, cause he's fking weird , but we don't go puking over it . He's stayed with us for months in our house too
That sounds horrible
how is it that you felt so terrible when your sibling was still there...
@@flo.1018 your reading comprehension might be lacking here...no offense, but you dont make enough of an effort i think, and you are expecting the poster to help you with this? i think she has enough to deal with, as this sounds really fuckin horrible to go through..
I am so sorry. I see that while talking bout these topics people don't point out the feelings of the families and friends! Thats not just for a trans person to feel bad while being the 'wrong' gender but also people around that might just have their whole lives crushed because of the transition. I hope you feel okay now or if you don't, then I hope you'll find happines and yk forget about that. Greetings
I saw a regular non famous man get utterly canceled and destroyed. Why? Because his wife decided to be a dude out of the blue one day. He stayed with her long past any reasonable man would, even when she started getting a tiny “thing” down there. But one day she wanted to be the man in the relationship during intimacy and he wasn’t comfortable with that and said no. She called him a transphobe and said “let me do this or leave” so he left. In the name of transphobia she got the house, the kids, the car, the money. Everyone hated the husband!! There is NOTHING more selfish and narcissistic than forcing your straight husband to be gay against his will. And same goes in the other way too. You can’t force a straight woman to be gay either. And those poor children in these situations lose both parents.
Wow😕😕😕
Sounds rapey. Bet she wouldn’t have appreciated the same proposition.
What the hell is wrong with these people??? What the hell is wrong with the law???
He shouldve moved to a red state
Oh my gosh!😐
My ex husband hid that he was gay for 17 years. I felt like that part of my life was complete sham! It hurts to think about it. No one ever talks about the family affected by these men/women choices choosing to marry when they really shouldn't.
I think in the case of homosexuality, its a little different. Namely, he probably didn't have the option to come out as gay.
Also after he came out did he abandon you guys, stick around and try to raise the kids or what?
@@randomloverofcheese he did have an option not to lie and deceive a woman he made his wife however
@Li Tobler Well in this case there's a lot of context missing; is he facing family pressure, has he suppressed it and is trying to convert himself etc.
I'm just saying it's not so black and white
@@randomloverofcheese It's same thing. Both are due to some kind of mental illness as evidenced by the lifestyle led by the vast majority of gay people. The difference is how normalized homosexuality has become.
@@randomloverofcheese For 17 YEARS? That is absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable. He was nothing but selfish to waste so many years of her life and lie to her the entire time. He should have never suppressed or tried to convert himself at the cost of another person's life. Disgusting.
I am the mum of a woman who identifies as man. I don't recognise her anymore, cannot really comunicate with her and I do understand her. It is a strange form of
bereavement. On her side my daughter is angry at me, for not accepting her as a man and for me having a different view. The conversation is layered with topics not talked about and with lies. And the mental gymnastic to call her with her chosen name and using the male pronouns. This broke our relationship. Heartbreaking to say the least
Actually got some personal experience on this subject. My best friends sister got married to this guy, they were together for about 3 years and she got pregnant. As soon as the baby was born he suddenly came out as transgender and tried to get custody of the baby. He's long gone now, but that was a pretty low thing to do.
Abandoning your kids is never ok trans or not.
Jesus. Was that straight after the birth?
@@amyrodgers4252 Pretty much. Less than 6 months if memory serves.
I was a trans widow before it was a thing. We married in 2012 and split 3 years later, as he wanted to be a she and wanted to stay with me if I could accept his lifestyles. I felt so manipulated. It was a betrayal of our vows to come together as one man and one woman. This wasn't what I signed up for. Now it's everywhere...
It’s because porn has become such a monster in society. He was probably nursing a secret addiction, and over time he decided his fetish was more important than anything else. Sadly there are thousands of cases of this nowadays. Used to be exceptionally rare.
That other guy that replied is retarded. It has nothing to do with porn - he's an idiot. Some people are just whack jobs. Sucks that happened to you. Hope you've been able to move on.
The coom
WE MUST REJECT LIBERALISM.
@@Electric_ exactly bro. Hit the nail right on the head. I hate porn and what its done and honestly its getting worse
We are now so deep into bizzarro world that when a man compliments a woman on being beautiful, she has to wonder if he is interested in her or if he is just asking for hair and makeup tips.
I dont compliment women in their looks because i dont wanna be reported for harassment or be filmed and placed all over tiktok. Thats the more likely scenario these days for complimenting a woman on her looks in any way. I would never compliment a woman, ever lol
I imagine this is why many people find it hard to compliment others in their daily lives.
Edit: Like the dude that commented before me. People take compliments the wrong way.
@@ShinFahima i have no problem complimenting others unless they are women lol. I compliment men from time to time because they take compliments at face value. But i wont ever compliment a woman ever in this new era of woke i will never say anything nice to any woman i meet unless i know them
@@Doomguy9OOO I feel you. XD
. . . I wish I could see what led to this comment being censored, it's pretty insightful.
Hey man nothing wrong with that, lol. I work as a chef for a sorority and I get tips all the time 😂 just a little while ago I was told I had blackheads and had one of the girls take me to Sephora to get me some blackhead remover 😂 so moral of the story apparently blackheads are a thing and you should remove them
Once was at a get together and someone had said about a girls husband coming out as gay and another women said good for him. Wtf is wrong with the world when someone ruins a partners life and you get celebrated for it.
If no one "decides" to be trans, surely all these married trans people knew that they were trans before they got married and still did it to their partner anyway? Why would you do that to someone you claim to love?
If he was willing to do this so fast without regard for his family, it makes me wonder how good of a father/ husband he really was.
I bet people will try to blame her for it. Trans man outranks all women apparently on the intersectional totem pole.
My mother came out as "trans" when I was 15. My parents are still married, but she basically doesn't allow my father to find a woman... Once there was an incident when my father fell in love with someone they both knew - it was horrible. She (my mother) felt betrayed and the whole thing blew up... I already had depression at this point but of course there was no place for my feelings in that situation. Now, five years later, I'm over my depression and eating disorder, married and have a daughter of my own. No way this ideology is going to touch her, no way that I'm going to tell her I have two dads.. hell no. We are still arguing about this, I will never give in to this family destroying ideology. Now I can neither talk about her as my mother, nor as my father... I wonder, if being a woman and all womanly things are so bad, why did she give birth thrice? My father is really hypocritical too, he follows her every word.. like literally saying: "he used his uterus to give birth to you". Wtf?! Not every woman can give birth, but every person who can give birth is a woman.
I’m so sorry your mother did this to you and your family.
You need to distance yourself from both of the ASAP if you don't want to get your child influenced by their twisted minds. Your dad is as guilty as your mother.
I'm very suprised about your father going along with it!! Thank you for sharing your experience with this madness
He needs to leave her asap
I feel for you - my father is "trans" and it is a sexual fetish paraphilia - I have been cautious of all of this since I knew of it about 15 years ago - I wouldnt ask for any of this idealogy to be near any kids.
as a bisexual, i was in a relationship with a woman than during our relationship said that she's going to be transitioning as a man. even as a bisexual, i couldnt bring myself to not be hurt. even more, because she acted as if it's only her business, as if it doesnt affect me at all. even if i'm bisexual, it doesnt mean i'm attracted to a man with a vagina, or her version of "man". even when you dont take account of their appearances, their characters change too. they're simply different person, mutilated to make appearance of someone else, acting like someone else.
Everyone has occasional attraction to perversions or strange desires. Most people will realise that's not healthy and avoid develop those feeling, or at the very minimum explore it behind close doors. When the media is constantly telling you that making a particular weird sexual fetish your entire identity and obsessing over it will lead to happiness, it's a very dark path, especially when you eventually get bored of it and suddenly realise you destroyed your entire life just to jerk off.
I've never thought about this before but it makes sense that it happens. My dad "came out" after thirty years of marriage and he's now shacked up with some dude while she's working in her retirement years. And social media cheers these people on for being "true to themselves", never mind all the social contracts they shred along the way.
That poor ex-wife. She's got to feel so lied to.
I know a family this happened to, too. The wife felt so sad. She has really been honorable about it and hung out with her ex husband and his boyfriend for the sake of her grandkids, which is really cool of her. If I remember correctly though the kids were not thrilled about it the situation when it happened when they were in high school. It has taken a lot of time to heal
And you fault him for coming out somehow?
@@cheesemakerkeesee395 he completely screwed over his wife, dude.
@@cheesemakerkeesee395 Just for marrying someone allegedly under false pretenses, stringing them along for three decades, then expecting them to happy about it when he pulled the rug out
That 10 year relationship lady I really feel for. She spent her best, youngest years on a relationship that went nowhere, with someone she was GENUINELY in love with. That was a pretty shitty thing to do to her, especially since it seems she wanted to be a mom.
I remember watching a few episodes of the Kardashians where Bruce transitioned, and Kris spent weeks in bed and wouldn’t come out of her room. Then one of the girls caught Kris wearing Bruce’s jacket and she was crying saying she could still smell him on it and she felt like he had died. She considered it his death that’s she was a widow. It was actually very sad to watch.
thanks for sharing this!
i am not a fan of the kardashians but this nugget of info was very enlightening. thank you
At least they’re rich
@@brianaguilar8283haha
Yea…the only time I’ve ever felt anything for that family was when I saw a clip of Kris carefully dancing around her grief. Eventually, she just came out and said it, that it felt as if the man she loved not only was gone, but apparently had never even been there. I find her to be a deplorable woman for many reasons, but on this one, I really felt deeply sad for her.
A man or woman who abandons their spouse and children by claiming to be another sex is one of the most selfish people ever. They don't care about their family, only about their own "needs". This is just the same as abandoning your spouse for another partner. It is disgusting.
Except that it didn't happen here.
@@davegecat159He/She/it divorced.
A woman is someone who never have to worry about being kicked in the balls
My mom's best friend had this happen to her husband. He experienced a lot of trauma that he never had therapy for. It drove our families apart quite a bit and I've had more than one uncomfortable interaction with 'Carey'. He talked to my mom about 'cramps' and my sister about 'having some girl time' and me about gender ideology in general (which I'm pretty versed in). His relationship with his wife seems fine on the outside, but his son now identifies as non-binary.
It's an ongoing issue because my mom doesn't want to let her best friend of two decades go because of something beyond her control. I honestly feel pity for my moms friend, her family is falling apart. And so much saddness for my dad, who lost a good friend in this man, now 'woman'.
Yeah I don't even know where to start with this type of scenario. In highschool my sweetheart's best friend (and a mutal friend of mine) was in love with her and we didn't know until me and my highschool sweetheart started dating so it was even messier. She is a fairly healthy trans man now thankfully but yeah.
So tons of self induced mental illness. Check.......... and sad.
@@nateo200 No +ran$ person is healthy, they are men+ally ill.
She needs to just 'snap' and put her foot down.....tell this man to stop with the delusions and do his damn job. He is clearly unaware or IS aware, but doesnt care about the sheer humiliation and trauma that hes putting his family through....it would.probably be better that he just leave and never return if he doesnt snap out of it. She needs to divorse this asshole and get him out of her life....her sons and her own mental health and future happiness clearly depend upon it. The father is a selfish asshole....and thats it. Its that simple. Their family was destroyed on the day he put on a dress and she should just call it now, before she gets even more miserable (coz she is.....there is no way that shes not.....no matter what she may say in the outside).
If my best childhood friend turns into a woman it is getting a slap and told to leave me tf alone
I just found out (through a facebook post) that my cousin falls into this category and is still bitter about it (understandly so). The father of her now 20 year old daughter abandoned them to "find himself/herself," when her daughter was still a baby. It was very hard on her and her parents had to help raise her daughter since he gave no support. To me it sounds like many of these men are narcissistic and need therapy.
Don't know about the narcissism, but therapy? Definitely. Oh boy, definitely.
@@anitasassassineMany modern therapists support the trans stuff tho.
They are narcissists. You're right.
They have earned their own deaths.
@@miepmiep3017 The bad ones. Bad therapists blindly affirm anything their clients put before them because thats what many clients want. Someone to tell them that they're right and everyone else is wrong. Good ones instead will tell you when you're bullshitting.
Expecting your partner to still love you when you can't even love yourself and has to fundamentally change who you are and then calling them phobic when they don't is just disgusting behaviour.
Not a wife thing but a related story. I was really socially awkward as a kid and in 7th grade I made the best friend of my life. She was fun, kind, and we shared a lot of the same interests. I’m it felt great to finally have someone like that at my school with me. She left the school 9th grade but we still kept in contact because we live really close. But then, in 10th grade, she decided to transition. He now goes by a different name, and has gotten hormones and even top surgery. I feel like I don’t know who he is anymore. I try to be respectful, and we still talk from time to time. But I can’t help but look back at the pictures and mourn the loss of my best friend. I can hardly imagine what these women are going through. My heart goes out to them. ❤
I'm really sorry ❤ I hope you can overcome this and find other wonderful people in your life! Jesus loves you
I'm a gay trans widow from a 10 year relationship. Problems started showing up around the 7th year with him hanging out with super progressive "friends" and wanting to go on vacation trips without me (which I later found out included a lot of risky sex and drugs). He shaved his beard, then later everything else except his head and started seeing a therapist (later found out it was a gender therapist) and got into cross dressing. He also created an alternate online identity around this time. I broke up with him because of the risky sex, which admittedly I only found out about since I cracked his phone so some secrets had to come out. I spent 3 years feeling like a stranger in my own house and completely unable to get him to explain to me what was going on. I found it all out nearly 2 years later that he decided to change his name, had been on hormone therapy for some time and was looking forward to surgery, and had disowned his family and many of his friends. He also reported having multiple personalities, spending most of his time crying uncontrollably but self-reportedly "happy".
I was so traumatized I have since cut all contact and most contact of contact out of my life. I feel so entirely betrayed and hateful even 6 years later I surprise myself, not least of all spending much of my free time in the past 4 years reading up on all of this and seeing how completely predatory and bogus it all is. This garbage caught a guy in his late 20's who was (as far as I could tell) very happy in his relationship. I feel for these ladies, I lost my high school sweetheart after 10 years, I can't imagine 20, 30, 40? How could you ever trust anyone again when the man you trust the most comes out with this nonsense?
It reminds me of stories where in a relationship of multiple years the couple's working off the understanding that they want kids in the future and then out of nowhere one partner says that they don't actually want to have kids. Like... people have finite lives. Leading them on is kinda evil.
Your situation sucks but it's completely unrelated to Chris's situation. I hate that morons like Walsh are misconstruing the whole situation which a. Doesn't involve them personally, b. Don't know Chris personally, c. Are using old edgy posts from Chris and wrap this up with the whole transtrender ideology. Chris never advertised it nor was virtue signalling... The right is being as stupid as the left is and it can't be any more depressing. Bring balance to the force!
I’m so sorry this happened to you. You didn’t deserve this at all 🤍
I pray you’re able to trust again and build meaningful life long relationships and friendships. You deserve to be happy and loved 🤍🤍
I am so sorry. I truly am that that actions of another person has caused you so much harm you don't deserve. There are men who also can relate to your story where their wives are now into women. It isn't fair to the partners. For what it's worth, the best revenge is living a happy life. Your ex sounds like a piece of selfish garbage. Don't let him steal the rest of your life.
I’m so sorry. I can’t imagine this. Changing life directions and goal is one thing. Y’all can talk and negotiate and determine if the relationship is still viable for you both. But just going behind your back and essentially saying “too bad, so sad for you” with that behavior is gross.
My brother did this 18 years ago. He abandoned his wife and 2y old child. His argument, even then, matched Chris'. "My child would WANT me to be happy; I am doing this for them!!!". Nope, your child wants a Daddy. His wife was devastated, never really recovered and floated through various religions looking for meaning and hope. Never remarried and she wanted so badly to have a family. No one wanted to date her (once they found out) and take on the social stigma that she was stuck with, since she shared a child with him and could not escape his orbit.
The child has since been swallowed by this gender ideology and also transitioned, had surgery, and is estranged from Mom.
His actions led to the complete destruction of a family. It divided the extended family. We can't have family reunions anymore. I am no contact to avoid the contagion to my young, impressionable kids.
This ideology is a disease that destroys families and relationships all to useless sacrifice for a false idol of selfishness and "happiness". I hate it.
My dad did this to my mom 21 years ago. He was kind enough to attempt to hide it from me and my younger brother, but my older Sister and oldest brother found out before the separation, when he abandoned the family and left.
14 months later on a visit to his apartment I found women's clothes in the balcony closet and was told the truth about why my father abandoned his family. Six weeks later on our next visitation (since I and my younger brother were still minors) his roommate dressed as a woman showed up. My little brother declared loudly "you are having an affair!". (Which was the only funny thing about this situation.)
That Roommate broke their word by showing up, and my dad ended up kicking them out of the apartment so visitation could continue. At this point I didn't want to be there, but I had to protect my younger brother. (It wasn't court ordered visitation, so I had the option not to go, but my younger brother wanted so badly to try and fix dad, despite not knowing the true cause, that he always wanted to visit if he could.)
In the end my dad took a credit card out in my mom's name and that was the final straw and my mom filed for divorce, in the process to change our last names.
2 years of dealing with this stupid situation my dad became an ex-trans "because of Jesus" and married my step mom. But the phycological strain over this time caused me to flunk out of highschool, and struggle with serious depression and trouble dating. (It didn't help that I also had a brain tumor try to kill me at this point too.)
For the summer of radiation therapy my dad back as a man made an effort to spend time with me at the hope lodge, but he only said sorry once, but didn't specify what he was sorry for.
Now my dad is suffering from serious health problems because of those two years wrecking his body with the wrong hormones, he's probably going to die in a year or two, if not sooner. To this day he won't acknowledge or accept the damage he did to his children and he is still angry and upset that my mom divorced him. I don't have access to his side of the family because they took his side on the situation.* (Well my grandpa, his dad, before he died told my mom he didn't blame her and wrote our birthday check to us kids in our new names. But my currently only living grandparent his mom refuses to acknowledge the new name since she doesn't want to have the family name die because of what happened. She is intolerable if I bring up anything about my name or my mom.)
Anyway while my situation was much better then the one you know about, there was still massive emotional and psychological damage that was done. My older brother never was able to date again because he worked hard to support the rest of family until he suffered a massive breakdown. (He took care of me for 13 years) My sister had the opposite problem and dated abusive guys nonstop until she married one, and is dealing with him taking custody of her two girls away because she is too transphobic. I dated only one woman who rejected me because I was going to end up a freak like my dad. And I have struggled to deal with that, despite knowing I am like the opposite of my dad in every way.
Thankfully my little brother got married and has a mostly normal life. But he also cut off my mom and my sister because my brother still talks to my dad. I have a middle ground relationship with my little brother, but it's been a problem trying to visit him and his family.
My mom got destroyed over the last 20 years getting her alimony reduced little by little from $3900 to the current $500 /month despite never getting remarried or doing anything else wrong. (Except for not hiring a big enough snake to fight my dad's snake of a lawyer.)
I WOULD SUE
@@Mac_Omegaly I am so sorry. In case no one told you, what he did to you and your family was wrong and you deserved much better.
Good things lead to life and bless others. Bad things destroy the person and poison everything it comes in contact with. I wish the world would talk more about the fruits of this movement. Thank you for sharing.
May you continue to grow into a responsible person who loves their friends and family in truth and empathy.
@@JenWulf thank you.
It's hard to talk about this subject, and I originally wanted to focus on the things that were similar to the situation you were talking about.
The words of my last ex girlfriend really hurt me, because I have a medical issue that naturally destroyed my pituitary, and it no longer produces any hormones, and requires me to take medicine daily.
She was wrong to try to rush into having sex with me after only three months, and she was wrong to say such things to me because i refused. But it took a long time for me to realize those facts. As I was right not to have sex with her since she clearly wasn't for me, and if things did continue a worse breakup was looming in the future.
Even knowing those things I still struggle even to think about trying to date again. My loneliness is my main motivation and the pool of available "kind" women who would be willing to accept damaged goods like myself is incredibly small to impossible. Even though these things are not entirely true, I put up these walls to prevent myself from getting hurt. (And this is not all my Dad's fault, but the effects of his choices are a big part of this.)
Anyway I am planning on trying to go to a local 30's singles event this summer. I don't want to rush things but I feel like time is running out to try to start a family.
@@Mac_Omegaly my husband was 49 when we got married (he was never married before), and in his 50s when we had our kids. Don’t give up or lose hope.
Talk about throwing salt in the wound. Your husband comes out as trans and starts ordering women’s clothes like crazy online…I bet the same guy gave his wife a hard time about her shopping habits the whole time they were married, questioned “why do you spend so much in hair and makeup”, etc….but when they do it the wife has to shut up and deal with it or get called a transphobe.
I wasn't married to him, but one of my exes began crossdressing about 6 months into the relationship. I tried to "be nice" since he was only doing it at home. I went with him to the nail salon and we got matching pink pedicures, where we told the nail techs he lost a bet so they wouldn't ask questions. I called him by the feminized version of his name at home as he requested. I told him he looked cute in his ill-fitting panties cause it made him happy. I guess my going along with all the little things gave him courage b/c soon he was wearing feminine tops in public, showing off his pink toenails in flip-flops, and getting long acrylic nails too. He started demanding I call him my girlfriend and using she/her pronouns. It stopped being just an at-home thing and it was honestly embarrassing to be seen with a towering hulky man wearing glittery fake nails and lacy tank tops and introducing us as "lesbians". That's when I dipped out.
I can't understand how ANYONE could expect us to stay with these men after _they_ completely erased the person we fell in love with. I'm married now to a wonderful christian man who has less patience for genderwoo than even I do, but I would have zero obligation to stay married to him if he knowingly changed into someone he knows I would never consent to be with. It's a simple concept and applicable to literally every relationship. These men make conscious choices to do a 180 on their wives or girlfriends, and it's outrageous to blame the women for leaving. End of. Anyone dishing out guilt trips and shaming trans widows can eat an entire bag of dicks.
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Good for leaving too.
They always escalate.
Glad you left and yes, being kind with encouragement makes them double down.
If a woman’s husband comes out as gay, it’s game over. But if a woman’s husband comes out as trans, she’s trapped by marital obligation to stick by her spouse because she could be painted as transphobic if she leaves?
How does this make sense? There is definitely a double standard here.
transgenderism is arguably the most homophobic ideology known to man
I'd leave. No one is going to make me stay and put up with this bullshit.
Well she should leave She's not lesbian
Why would anyone be scared of being labeled a made up word? Just leave the relationship.
@Marcela Rodriguez Yep, that's what Ellen Page's wife did, and everyone was shocked. Like how is that surprising? A lesbian woman's wife just transitioned into a "man." The woman loves boobs not flat pecks.
As the adult daughter of a trans parent, I’d like to thank you for making this video. Whilst the parent who decides to transition has a entire community of support to validate and celebrate their “journey,” the spouse and children have little to no resources to help them navigate this new emotional landscape. Many therapists are committed to prioritizing gender affirmation for the trans parent and the feelings of the wife and children are disregarded. The trans community is openly hostile. Nothing less than enthusiastic support for the trans spouse/parent is tolerated. If the wife opts to leave the marriage citing their spouse’s transition as the reason, she is labelled “transphobic.” And even though trans women consider their former male identities as “dead” and take umbrage to anyone calling them by their “dead name”, they object to their former wives calling themselves “trans widows.” Apparently only trans people are allowed to give themselves (and everyone else) labels.
It isn’t all sunshine, rainbows, and sparkly unicorns when a spouse/parent decides to transition, so thank you for highlighting the situation of the wives and children who have been silenced. It’s like living in the world of Invasion of the Body Snatchers and it helps to know that sane and reasonable people are still out there.
I’m also an adult daughter of a trans parent and wanted to thank you for leaving your comment. Never in my life have I had the freedom to truly express the grief or work through the long term damage this transition has had on our family, friendships, the childhood development of 3 kids or any of our self worth, in general. I always considered myself a “daddy’s girl” when I was little, until things changed so vastly that it just didn’t feel right anymore. I was never allowed to mourn that loss. The transition started nearly 30 years ago. I spent many years angry. Still to this day, there’s an urgency to the trans parent needing inclusion in everything. It’s always felt like “me, me, me”, yet I can’t even make it through an afternoon with said parent without being tuned out in a conversation. We got the version where there’s “co-parenting”, but it’s really more like low effort straddling of “I’m being a good parent” and “I’m being my authentic self”. I guess the parent believes it, *gold star* but neither truly happened imo and mom was never free to try to move on, either. It’s difficult, but we can’t talk about it.
We never really had the option of walking away, just the gaslight to stay and be supportive because “why would anything else change”? 🙃 The sacrifices and shame the rest of us endured, growing up in this mess (to try to explain something we don’t even truly understand to those around us) to allow our PARENT of all things (ex-husband, in mom’s case… but co-parenting) some kind of “normalcy” in this is 100% absurd.
Just one man’s decision, right?
To those that say it’s easy to walk away, try being in the middle of a situation like this. Then, consider what it would be like for the person you looked up to most in the world to pull this crap, and you’ve never wanted anything more than to be the apple of their eye. Devastating.
Edited to add: To this day, I don’t want to hurt my dad’s feelings. It’s f’d. 💔
@@mnmnmnmnmnmnm @amiek9226 Huggs for BOTH of you guys, I can SO understand how you feel xxx
@@mnmnmnmnmnmnm Honestly i feel like you should write your dad a letter explaining how you feel
You highlighted something I was always curious about. When a parent decides to transition: how much actually changes.
The trans community would have me believe that nothing changes. They were always the opposite sex and now they've become their authentic self. Or everything changes because you're transphobic.
Your parent isn't 'trans.' There's no such thing.
8:49 "Comb your hair! And learn a skill... like welding." I love it. So true!
Many years ago the wife of a transitioned husband felt abandoned by her partner and reached out to her friends to see whether her feelings were valid or not.
Unfortunately their social group was strongly left and they all proceeded to gaslight her and convince her that the person she married didn't change, they were and still are the same person.
Last I ever heard was that she decided not to divorce him (now her) and would work on her feelings...
I felt sorry for her and was disgusted by the lack of support she recieved.
So, it'wrong to have the deadbeat dads/moms, but it's totally ok to have the deadbeat "thems/zems/whatever tf else is out there," so long as they get to be "zeir" authentic selves... Is that what I'm expected to understand?
Yes. That is exactly what the unhinged mentally ill progressive movement demands from you.
Call them what they are, don't let them police your language. The only way to beat their game is to refuse to play it.
Sadly, yes.
@@princesstt9778 yikes. Sorry, but I can't accept that...
The world is going insane. Idk what to even do about it. But no... Just... No...
@@southerncatlady I hate this too. Men and women who abandon their families to be their "authentic selves" are pathetic. I pray that all of this gender ideology crap goes away soon, because I can't stand it.
Rules for thee not for me is classic leftist behavior.
this reminds me of the story where a man was being humiliated just because his wife came out as lesbian and he didn't want to support her. He claimed all the memories they shared felt fake. everyone, including his own children, turned against them.
That's the thing with this stuff.. most of these people (trans, gay...) Know from very early days what they are.. still they decided to deceive another, clueless person and string them along with lies. Build everything on a lie. Same concept it when you don't want kids, you so wants and you keep telling them "not now" until too late.
I also find it so stuoid when people first say "sexuality isn't a choice" yet when spouse tells they are trans and will transform, the other spouse is expected to CHOOSE to be gay or bi.
Because if you don't turn gay, you are transphobic and homophobic.
I was thinking of those kind of stories too. People who have literally been living a lie with the person they are supposed to know and love best in the world are bullied and harangued for expressing they feel betrayed. Ridiculous.
I've lived that very scenario... My wife of 15 years (total relationship of 22 years and parents of two wonderful kids) had an affair with a woman and became part of that lifestyle, to this day she is a lesbian. You lose that part of your life, your memories seem like lies.... a very weird thing happens, you have the memories but that person fades away in them. It truly is like your spouse has passed and you can't grieve..... you carry that for a very long time if not forever. It put me in a space I had never been before...... you think about ending the pain forever.
@@TheSlowoldman I hope you're doing better now. On the bright side, you at least have two children. I call it bright side because they are proof that the things you went through, while lies, had a silver lining. This is me just assuming you have a great relationship with them btw. Your wife may have tricked you to live a lie but hopefully your children helped you get through with it.
@@captaindeadpool313 Thank you, my children stayed with me through it all, we've never been closer. They are what kept me here. I just found out I'm going to be a grandpa so life is definitely looking up!
There are so many things I want to say after watching this video!
I have an ex who wanted to become a woman and hoped we would stay together during and after the transition. He said he would stay the same and that it wouldn't change a thing to our relationship.... I am sorry, but a love relationship is also a matter of attraction and intimacy, I can't change what I get excited by. I had to cut ties with a friend who plainly said that the reason I didn't take it well was because I was insecure about my own sexuality. The support from our common friends went to him, and the people reaching out to me wanted to make me understand how HE felt, but never tried to understand the grief I had to go through, the dreams and memories all became gray and tainted. It was no normal break-up and he didn't pass away, so no one could relate. It was a very weird and hard grief. He had it rough certainly, but I was also impacted by it.
No one talks about us. Because nowadays, all we are allowed to do is shut up and stand by them...
When I was younger I was a bit feminine I knew alot of girls shit watched Greece and Dirty Dancing and all that good stuf. If it was today I'd be labelled trans but thankfully it was the 80s. I was like that because I grew up with all sisters and didn't have a say what was on TV.
Just another perfect example of how narcissistic many trans can be. They honestly do not care who they hurt in the process, as long as they get to do what they want. You see it here, you see it with the trans athlete not giving one iota what they are doing to women;s sports and the women athletes. It is 100% all about them and their wants. Everything and everyone else who is not 100% supportive gets left behind. There is no question this is a cult.
Not all are like that, it dispenses on the person. But I do hope they get objective, genuine help, instead of being told to mutilate themselves and take pills/injections.
You are so right, we arenin the Me era,
My truth my feelings what's good for my true me.
The path to happiness is being responsible and helping others. Primarily your family, society used to shun people who deserted their families now the elite owned media the educational systems and governments demand and embrace it.
I feel like trans athletes don't count here
Because frankly if even 20% are actually trans im gonna be shocked
These people are mediocre athletes who are narcs and if they can't win a fair fight they can at least cheat and win
The argument I get is, "You're the problem. You shouldn't be hurt by someone who is being their authentic self." Maybe not, but I think I would have a right to feel hurt by a person who is in such a desperate need to control everything in their life, that they want to alter reality itself.
@@TheRisky9 I say to them that an "authentic" self is one that doesn't require medication and surgery to be authentic.
It's the opposite in fact.
'I'm really beginning to believe society needs a hard reset'
Been saying that for the last decade, myself.
That's what they're trying to do with this insanity. What society needs is mass pushback from the people.
Oh there is a plan for a great reset mark my words and this transgender hysteria is a part of it
Or society just doesn't need to exist
@@kittygirl0872 People always want the world to end so
I just call it perverted. Because it is.
I had an ex girlfriend who’s dad came out gay and revealed a 15 year affair with another man. She told me on the phone and then she and her mom moved away . Devastating
I think Chris deciding to call himself a woman and changing his whole lifestyle was very selfish considering how he never thought how much it would affect his wife and kids. Heck, looking at his socials, it's like he never had a family anymore.
If my loving partner demands I stay attracted to him even if he tries to become a she, that's not my loving partner anymore. If you're bullying your SO into staying, that's a little thing we call abuse. And abuse is one of the only grounds where I would justify divorce (the other being unfaithful). People dealing with their SO transitioning and/or abusing them into staying, you have my deepest sympathies and sorrows. Get out of there if you can, I'm so sorry
But whats that got to do w chris😭 cuz the soon to be ex wife found out recently after a yr of them not being together
Okay, yes shaming someone to stay atracted to you / abusing them is wrong. But left wing people are not arguing that you should?
If you are a straight women and you husband comes put as a trans woman you have all the right to leave and any good lefty will support you.
I don't know why you make up such a hyperbolic statement in order to paint trans people as abusers. This is genetally not condoned by the left and by trans people.
You are arguing against a ghost
But in this great world we live in the "justice system", state, government, any authority figure, and likely a chunk of your own family and friends will NOT see this clear abuse as abuse, and will attack you over it. You will lose your child to that pervert, and they will then be permanently messed up by them as well.
I think the answer is to be REALLY DAMN sure you know who you're marrying, and be VERY OPEN and communicate about everything like this. And finally to be very HONEST and don't feed these demonic thoughts, nip them in the bud as soon as they show their degenerate head like everyone should do.
amen
@yochiartz2839 although the main topic of the video is about chris, there were many examples of this case besides him. The commentator above most likely is referring to the video essay as a whole
I genuinely feel bad for Chris' son. He will be growing up without a dad.
And with girls shoes
Dude why do I see you literally everywhere lol
Are you a Bot? I see you everywhere.
@@BenShapirosLowerLip yes
FACT
I'll never forget the time a guest appeared on Jordan Peterson's podcast who leads a support group for families dealing with transitioners. The emotional fallout and impact on families is absolutely terrible, and the intimidation these people experience from the media and woke society is sickening.
Don’t have kids if you’re going to abandon them. Just don’t. When you have a child, it’s your job to devote your life to them at least until they’re an adult. Period. The lack of responsibility so many people is despicable.
So, We can't deal with a real woman on a syrup bottle, but we praise a fake woman on a beer can? I think I'm done trying to accept this insanity.
Facts
At 37 years old my wife discovered she is gay...yeah we'll go with that. I won't go into how she's behaved this past year or so but it's been the worst experience of my life. You think you know someone and they just "hold my beer" your ass. The damage she's done to me and our daughters during her journey of self discovery is irreparable.
RUN AWAY FAST! Your marriage is DEAD!
It's always assumed that the "self" someone is going to discover is something good, while most often there seems to be a selfish prick in the hiding.
Sorry to hear that man
This exact scenario Ali happened to a friend of mine, at roughly the same age. They have a daughter as well.
Wishing you the best as you work through this.
When anyone says they need to 'find themselves' it means they're gonna do some really gross shit and pretend they're more mature and wiser than you cuz they stick stuff up their butt and smoke crack.
I've heard of "football widows". It's an over-dramatic way to describe women who don't get as much attention from their husbands during football season. The idea of "trans widows" actually makes more sense than that. They thought they knew their husbands but they really didn't. The man they thought they knew is basically dead because he never existed.
As someone who grew up in a toxic marriage, where my father would not divorce my mother but carry on to date girls my age and impregnate multiple women, I'm a firm believer of divorce.
Don't worry my point will get to this topic.
People that are against divorce tend to not think about the lifetime affects a toxic marriage has on children. As a result they tend to be quick to judge people that divorce before things get bad. It's almost as though we have to wait for childhood trauma to arise before we accept the idea that sometimes marriages don't work.
If your partner doesn't want to be with you anymore, regardless of whether they can no longer commit to you or they came out of the closet or they transitioned. You should not want to be in a marriage where one party is no longer in it. It's not good for you nor your children.
Happy father's day to the sweetest and best daddy I could have possibly picked for my babies. You're such a good example of a kind and loving man and I'm happy and proud to be parenting alongside you 💖🌸💯 - chelsea.wren also liked "broke: calling a cishet dude Daddy
bespoke: calling a queer woman Daddy
" - activevirtues
"think my source of depression this week can be traced back to not only finding out that Gwen Stefani has a beauty line shes hocking but that it's also pseuo-MLM. It does not compute in my brain that someone who was the definition of cool for decades became totally average". Is this disturbing? lsban? She litterly said "I understand Him and He understands Me
I can refute you 100 times over
At that point, you have one spouse that has essentially abandoned the other, so by all traditional western values that is grounds for divorce. Maybe fifty years ago you had plenty of people who would say you still shouldn’t, but in this day and age I’m not sure who you’re addressing. Most people agree that cheating, abandonment, and abuse are all grounds for divorce. Transitioning would, to me, count as abandonment, since you’ve abandoned the identity you had when you married your spouse (which should also count as an invalid marriage in the first place, since it would’ve been made on lie and false pretenses).
My son transitioned with 2 grown boys and a loyal wife at 46. She has stayed with him but the boys are gone. The weird part of this is that he announced after the surgeries etc. that he was gay. So in essence he changed to a faux woman but still is attracted to them. I do not associate with my son anymore. He transitioned but put so many restrictions out there my 2 daughters and myself couldn't handle his selfishness. His they/them garbage, his do not call him by his dead name, he even changed his date of birth. So I mourn the loss of my son that I loved so so much, but he has no right to try and change us to agree with his mental disorder.
How the hell did he change his date of birth? Isn't that supposed to be illegal?
When Blair White transitioned her mom supporter her thru it, her mom did mourn the loss of her son, Blair understood the loss her mom felt. Fortunately Blair didn’t have a wife or kids thu.
Blairs story isn't relevant here. Stop.
Sorry to hear that, but you are correct
Sorry to hear that. I do have a theory that these type of people do have some hidden depression or just get at the critical age and do stupid stuff similar to 40-50 year old men buying motorcycles to feel young again or some other expensive “toy”. Obviously buying a motorcycle or something if the sort is not something dangerous and has not inherently bad. I believe these “trans” people have some rough moments in life and turn to “cultists” and turn this way.
I'm a trans widow. I have 2 teen daughters that have been fighting with me against all this trans rubbish, they've been through hell. Trans Widows Voices have been incredible for us, as has Standing For Women and Kellie-Jay Keen. It happened to us when my daughters were a lot younger and I was completely alone, it's nice to see someone like you amplifying the message. Thanks, Syd ❤️
You aren't a victim. You are just rude
@dejuren You have no right to tell me or others who've been through this what they can call themselves. Maybe listen to some of the women who speak about this and they can explain why it feels like the person you loved actually died. I'm not here to justify my existence or experiences to anyone else. Peace ✌🏻
@dejuren it completely applies. Because the person they married and loved is gone and replaced by the trans version.
@dejuren You're comparing 2 completely different things and I think you know it...
@dejuren I think you are mocking me.
I mean, I don't care, you've never had this happen to you so you don't know what it feels like but comparing man becoming trans after 15+ years of marriage and having children to break ups with 20 girls is nonsense.
How would you say this compares to gay men who stay in a relationship for 10+ years before leaving their wife to be with another man? I've always thought about this subject from the lens that the issue is from entering a relationship on a lie. (both in regards to trans women as well as gay men coming out part way into a committed relationship)
If you've been married for 10+ years while in the closet, I view the problem more about entering the relationship dishonestly in the first place compared to the departure. If everyone in a relationship knew all of the information from the start, then these issues would never come up in the first place.
No better way to "be your authentic self" than to then go change everything about yourself.
It's always "how brave of you to express your true self", but it's never "what you are doing is selfish, you are destroying your family".
None of them want to hear the truth these days
As a father, my kids are my ultimate purpose in life, protecting them, providing for them and teaching them. Everything else takes the back seat. This is how real men are hardwired.
As it should be. You are a good man, sir.
Wow, so Chris is a woman, since he is not a 'real man' :)
@@creepyjesus1471 not sure what you're getting at, but the point is, being selfless is what being a man and father is all about, not about your sexual proclivities and aspirations.
Yes yes yes !
@@-_-_-_-318I've wondered if that's partially what it's about. Being a man has got to be hard af, in a way that being a woman isn't. Their father worries about things that I don't, as he doesn't even think of the amount of clean underwear in the house. I wonder if some males think being a woman is an easier way to go through life.
What I find so egregious is how hard it is for women/females who are suffering various hormonal problems, to get hold of HRT as a reliable treatment....yet!
I have a close friend whose father transitioned and it destroyed their family and left my friend without a real dad. It's so sad what this does to families.
My girlfriend has a dad who is now a trans woman. It really is basically like having that person die because they're no longer the person my gf grew up with having as a father. Still really messes with her to this day. Feel terrible for the child and mother
From what I get even the most benign transition leaves the family scarred because the father(or mother) entirely changes personalities almost over night. It really is like someone passed away.
@@Mupyeong And then they'll tell you they're still the same person, and you know they're really not. Or else, this was always them, they just covered it up. Either way, they're no longer the person you knew or thought you knew.
@@MarieAnne. That seems to be an either or. Detransitioners seem to return to their original personalities but you are most definitely on the nose there.
Yes you can't even call them dad or mom (depending on what they charge for gender to) and sometimes you can't keep your friends or interact with relatives because they would remind your parent of their real gender.
Sleepovers are now a issue because now one wants their kids over your disfuncional household and now your paperwork is changed at hospitals and school because now your dad is your "mom" and your mom and your "dad"
Now your parents are divorced and now they are dating people some I'm which are the same gender.
Now you are stuck with one of the parents and everytime the other parent comes around it's a reason for drama.
It is a never ending cycle and because they want to decide to transition after being parents they ruin their child's experiences and destroy their marriages.
This isn't hate speech I am simply stating my issue with this situation.
Hopefully I don't upset YT.
Absolutrly correct. Trans people say that they are being yheir authentic self but this is bullshit - they are making and becoming a NEW PERSON. I kniw it as im a detrans
My aunt and cousin are victims of this. She married a man who knew his whole life he "was a woman." After getting married and having a daughter, he took them to Germany, as far as he could get them away from my grandfather, a Christian conservative man, and transitioned. Honestly, a truly heartbreaking story of my family, and I didn't know it was more than just us. To this day I pray for my cousin, who has sadly been going down a depressive spiral. Unfortunately, her parents make it hard for us to contact her.
Wow to another country where the wife and kids cant leave.
I've been asking people on the board who have had a relative transition. The argument I get from the trans community is that "The relationship doesn't change, I'm just the opposite sex now."
If you don't mind, honestly, how much of that relationship is, "Yeah, it's the same person, just the opposite sex. Only really minor things have changed" and how much is, "No, this is not the same person. It's completely different."
@@TheRisky9they're trying to completely change themselves. It's never minor.
Jesus that's the plot of Synecdoche, New York
"A wife that can't leave."
That's why women must care about education and financial Independence first before the start to get married and breed.
An independent women can take the children and leave if the partner goes crazy.
It is selfish…abandoning their spouses and the worst, their children, who suffer the most. My FIL “came out” and abandoned his 3 teenager children. The results were devastating for the children and for the spouse. Why couldn’t he just have waited a few more years until his teenage children had completed HS? In the end when he was dying from terminal cancer, he made amends with both his children and with God.
"My partner says attraction is about the person; that you love a person."
You do love a person. But love and attraction are not the same thing, and they are not inherently connected. I love many people that I feel no attraction towards, like friends and family. I feel attraction towards many people that I do not love, like instagram models. When you're married or in a committed relationship with someone, you typically feel both love and attraction towards them, usually at the same time. But its very possible for one of them to fade or disappear entirely without affecting the other one.
I can love someone and not be attracted to them once they complete devolve into a mentally ill fantasy
This topic is a long time coming. Back in 2018 the father of one of my children's former classmates came out as trans. I have counseled the family as best I could because there have been no resources to assist families go through this particular grieving process. The father is gone, replaced by a narcissistic personality that is competing with their spouse for the title of "most feminine".
The spouse has been berated, minimized, and financially neglected as the sperm donor of her two young children (also the primary financial earner) used the bulk of the incoming money to pay for his own needs.
It has been awful to see. Unfortunately the spouse chose not to leave despite being manipulated, abused, and financially neglected. She is totally brainwashed.
😢 this is heartbreaking
@@bronminett4042 yes it is.
Poor kids
@@jemimahkendall6579 yes
Something is causing it. I know everyone hates him, but remember Alex Jones a while ago when he found out frogs and fish were changing sex due to high levels of the hormone drugs people take getting into the water supply? When they clean water for us to drink they can't get that stuff out. You can't filter it out. You can filter out dirt, and kill germs and bacteria, but you can't get a lot of chemicals out of water once it's in there.
This happened to my tattoo artist. Her husband who was a trucker and seemed super manly suddenly... became a woman. I felt really bad because every time that I saw her, I would ask her about her life and husband, etc. (I have several large pieces by her so I've seen her often enough). And I felt so bad for her. They eventually got divorced, but he was still in the house. I think he finally left. Sigh. Sad.
Be a good friend to her please. I'm sure she doesn't have many people who understand her side
I recently saw an old friend who was very distraught. She has been living with this super manly marine veteran who discovered that he is a transgender only fan’s star. He had been raising her 5 year old son with her for the last 4 years . She was destroyed.
It is so sad that this is a thing.
I recently saw an old friend who was very distraught. She has been living with this super manly marine veteran who discovered that he is a transgender only fan’s star. He had been raising her 5 year old son with her for the last 4 years . She was destroyed.
It is so sad that this is a thing.
Feminism : Smash the patriarchy.
Men : Hold my nail polisher!
So he took the easy way out of his job responsibilities...i take it he was not trucking anymore with a dress?
I myself had an instance where i was confused i had no attraction to a guy that should most definitely be my type. Turns out it was a trans guy.
My believe is that your body knows its attractions and i am hetero. Nothing will change that. If i ever marry and my husband transitions, i am certain my attraction would fade aswell, it is a natural and almost instinctive reaction.
i know bias. And I know AFAB imtation.
Every show will feature a lineup of your favorite LGBTQIA+ comics and MAYBE one lucky straight....who at the very least has some lowkey gay energy. Sheria and Ely will wrestle shamefully gay anecdotes from the comics, the crowd and each other. Imagine me saying “and MAYBE one lucky lesbian....who at the very least has some lowkey straight energy.” Tell me what will happen?
To anyone going through this, be it a spouse or child, I want you to know that you're special, loved, cared about and prayed for. My heart goes out to all of you. This world is so selfish and there aren't even therapists that can help. From what I've heard, most therapists/counselors/psychiatrists take the side of the transitioner and tell the family to "be supportive". I'm sending *internet hugs* to everyone who's going through this right now. ❤❤❤
Thank you.
What’s the most baffling to me is when grown, married men become trans even after witnessing their wives become pregnant and give birth to their children. They have first-hand witnessed these capabilities & experiences exclusive to women that should be constant, glaring reminders that he is, in fact, not a woman and will never be a woman. I find it extra insulting that a father could turn around and claim that identity for himself.
They do it to still get a lineage. It’s almost like tricking women into giving them babies and then taking off the mask and being able to live the lives that they’ve always wanted
Maybe they just want to pretend to have headaches too and show 'em what it's like.
I feel it's the next level of selfishness and narcissism - they realise that they're not the most important person in the situation, so they up the ante to get the focus back on themselves and away from the tiny new human who needs more care and attention than the grown-arse man who isn't getting enough of it, apparently.
Dude... The mental gymnastics you had to do...
@@thumbwitch4607 okay now you’re definitely reaching. Like I agree with the what you guys are saying but now you’re assumptions are turning ridiculous
I've noticed the only time people expect you to work it out is when your partner is trans, any other type of difficulty within a relationship and these same people will tell you to get a divorce
No, they tell the woman to get a divorce. They tell the man to just "man up" and deal with it.
@@codechartreuse Try telling that to modern Western women. LOL
I really hate when people try to force acceptance onto people who have a right to grieve, feel abandoned, and be angry! I also think that this phenomenon of men becoming "Trans" out of the blue is a deeper cultural issue of men feeling trapped or ashamed of being masculine or men. I do think that a lot of men feel trapped between what they were raised to be as men and then the extreme cultural hatred of masculinity and men. It is pushing them into feeling that they can't bear to be a man anymore because there is so much confusion and negative feedback. It is psychologically traumatizing and we can do better and help men. It's very telling to me how trans people break down and get defensive when they are pressured to be analytical and self reflective about what they are doing. Instead of leaning in and truly being open to analysis of their actions and decision they start yelling "lF YOU DON'T LIKE IT LEAVE!". There is a deep insecurity and fear there of truly using reason to consider what they are doing. Instead we are supposed to blindly accept everything as reasonable and normal.
Truth has been spoken
I'm convinced that at this point in time, and this will be controversial, One of the worst things a husband can do to his wife is tell her he's gay or trans. It's just a question of why it took so long, or they weren't upfront about it in the first place.
Eh goes for both genders really, but i see your point. I wouldve said it wouldve been worse for women maybe 30 years or longer ago...hell even 20 years ago. Not so much now though
When I was in university my roommate's dad decided to cross-dress / trans but was still called a him. He dumped my roommate's mother, got a 20-something year old girlfriend, bought a sportscar... the whole thing. He later gave the fancy car to his daughter (my roommate). She couldn't hardly drive it (manual) and didn't have the money to keep it up, so I asked her once why she even took it. She said she took it so he wouldn't give it to his young girlfriend 😢. My roommate said she supported him, and all the lbgtq stuff, but the absolute pain in her eyes was just soul crushing. And that was 1998. I never understood it then and I don't get it now, how it's ok somehow to dump your family like that and terrorize your kids by transitioning.
And dude wasn't even gay, its literally a fetish that gives them access to woman...how can people not see creeps have been waiting for something like this to happen
I am in my late 50s, so I can say that it's what every middle aged man goes through, just like when women of a certain age goes through menopause, it's called Middle Aged Crazy. Just something for you to look forward too.
@@visaman Ok I hit middle age and nowhere in my mid life crisis was there any crossdressing, that's just fckn weird.
@@garymccray7822 what about a shiny red sportscar and a new trophy wife?
If you want to mid life crisis and abandon your wife and kids, but be considered a stunnings and brave hero for it, you just identify as coming out as gay or trans. Then you shack up with your secretary
It's not just partners who suffer in this way, it's parents too. We're helpless bystanders watching the child we poured ourselves into, disappear, to be replaced with an angry, judgmental stranger who is unapproachable and completely lacking in compassion and empathy.
It’s like Jim Jones in 2023. If it’s not some Jesus cult it’s something else.
sorry, but you don't own your child's life, they should be able to express however they want. Everyone should be able to.
@@seductiveraven4895 . Actually your wrong. Parents are responsible for children until the age of adulthood, that’s 18 here in the States. Allowing a child to mutilate itself falls under willful neglect of your child’s welfare. This transgender insanity is going to be short lived especially since the overwhelming majority believes it to be utterly unacceptable for children under the age of adulthood.
@@seductiveraven4895 sure, yes believing in fanciful woke bs is the way, everyone should do it!
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These people are ruining their children's childhood,what are you saying?
Doing anything drastic to yourself without regard for your spouse or children is WILD........
We are free, prison is when you have to hide who you are.
I feel so bad for the women or men who’re insulted and put down because their partner switched genders and lost attraction for said partner, and then to feel like they’re the villain when really its their partner who acted selfishly and based off of pure emotion who’re really the villains
Trans widow here! Worst experience ever!!! I have 4 kids and had been married for 18 years. We divorced as I knew I couldn't live that life. I went through suicidal ideation and questioned my own existence as a woman. I'm much better now, but I hate the impact it has and continues to have on my kids. Also sick of society trying to make me something I'm not. I married a MAN, had kids with a MAN and divorced a MAN! He is a man and will always be a MAN!
I met a girl that went through this. Married a guy and had two kids with him. Then he transitioned and she was left unsatisfied in the bedroom but felt she didn't want to completely give up on the person. It's crazy. This is such a new thing.
Wouldn't the solution then be to figure out something in their sex life that works for BOTH of them? :/
@@sigmacademyas a vanilla gal married to a vanilla male where we both enjoy our rolls in marriage, there would be absolutely no joy if my husband decided to be a female in the bedroom. Somethings just don't work, why do we get shamed for our wants but they aren't? If they lie to us for years about their roll and change the script that isn't our fault. The genuine partner I telling the truth the whole time and yet they are the ones punished, it doesn't make sense they have to sacrifice their comfort in something so intimate.
They are abusing the good nature of women. Holding the relationship by a thread. Her patience.
@@abigailloar956 that's why dildoes were invented honey!
@@PossibleBat "...the good nature of women..." Look around at the state of women in the Western world. They are about themselves. Alot of them are very toxic. Not all of them but a lot.
Its hilarious how South Park pointed this out over a decade ago with the first episode of Mrs Garrison when he goes back to Mr Slave expecting him to just accept the changes. Mr Slave had to point out the obvious with him saying "But im gay, i don't like vaginas!" , like Garrison didn't even consider how would Mr Slave would feel
It is the most selfish thing a person could ever do to their partner and children. I think people as a whole are becoming a lot more selfish and self involved, maybe its social media, I don't know.
" Comb your hair... Learn a skill... Like welding" Hellishly true and yet hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
Lol I thought she said quilting
Welding is harmful to your health, there's other manly occupations though.
That had me laughing so hard. Love her sense of humour!
Two guys I know have done this, one was the partner of a friend at the time. The pressure on women to affirm the fetish is huge. In both cases their selfies got more objectifying over time; it was creepy to watch. Last I heard they were calling themselves lesbians and bugging actual lesbians on dating sites. P*rn has messed up so many men.
The porn industry needs to be broken up and heavily regulated because it's effects on society are out of control and intentionally toxic. Crazy how the same people who own Hollywood also exclusively own every porn studio.
Wow what the actual f !
I think it is one of the most vile things you can do to abandon your family to transition line this. When you get married, you are committing to your spouse that their life and the family they are creating with you is more important than your life is. If you aren't willing to stick to that commitment, you are committing an atrocity just as bad as cheating.