@@bluntforcetrauma6333 that's bollocks and you know it. She wasn't concerned at first because (as she noted, and you would know, if only you had listened) she was liberal sexually (most cross dressing in men is a sexual fetish) and loved him for who he was - whatever that might be. It was only when he began to refuse to accept reality that she felt the marriage was over. I don't think we should be diagnosing people based on a 15 minute speech - him or her.
It took a doctor willing to “prove me wrong” to get my partial hysterectomy at 26. I was that bad off with fibroid tumors, stage 4 endometriosis, and ovarian cysts. I’ll never forget the doctor throwing the recommendation at me and storming out the room! I haven’t been to the doctor since my post follow up surgery…13 years. I am researching for a solid doctor to take me seriously, because I have a strong history of colon cancer in my family. (Maternal grandfather and mother both had it.) I need a doctor to listen to me and help me get my insurance to approve of my colonoscopy. To say I am trepiditious is an understatement.
What her “marriage therapist” did to her by violating the therapy contract (and abandoning their marriage) is unethical by any professional standard of ethics. If the field of psychology was less political, she would have a great lawsuit
This is how we beat this out of our society. She should sue. The very act of passivity is the reason this has gotten so far out of hand. Until people start to speak out and fight back, this will never be reined in. The longer that this "movement" this ideology is allowed to saturate our society and institutions is the more victims who will be harmed by it. If people are afraid of fighting for themselves, then they need to find their fight for the innocent youth being targeted by this sickness.
She was betrayed by someone meant to care for her. Do no harm to her. This is so sad. It leads me to wonder if the therapist was seeing her husband as career affirming more than as a human being. "It will be fun to transition you." Breaks my heart for them
I physically went after that nasty mtf " gender therapist" that killed my husband.. he completely vanished when he heard my spouse had died and just how angry I really was.. and still am.
@@francismarion6400 In April 2019, I heard - Tell them I am coming soon. Later in the day I heard: There will be a great shaking. When I didn't tell a particular church about it, I got a dream where I was scared. I could hear myself saying: I'll tell them, I'll tell them, I'll tell them. Then I saw a person in the dark with well lit church windows behind him and another person dressed in white walking behind him and up some stairs. Jesus is coming. On April 9, 2021, my vision went black for a quick moment, then I saw in gold letters - Thus saith the Lord. About four hours later, On April 10,in my sleep I heard - Prophet. Tell them I am coming soon. Maybe 3-5 min after that, at 1235 AM, our area had a 3.1 eq.
These gender ideologues got a hold of my then 11yr old daughter online. We’ve been fighting for her ever since. These people are like religious zealots.
@@mickstone7380yes, it's a term that has been around a long time. People were shamed for "disrespecting" psychiatrists by calling them quacks. It was and I guess still is a non-PC term. But it is looking like it's pretty accurate now.
There has also been a long history of legitimate psychology science. It's debated as to how scientific it is, yet much of the research done before the 2010s was perfectly acceptable. There's always been questionable studies, but those studies didn't usually take off like the quackery of today. I think this is a problem of a bunch of people thinking they're psychologists when they're just using it for ideological bigotry.
I live in Canada where they can take away your children if you don't affirm them. We need to fight this insanity and hear more from the people harmed by this to speak out like you 👏
We have to understand how this suddenly became so prominent. decades ago there was a small number; now so many; is it something psychological like follow the leader ...
@elizabethabbott2982 personally, I think it goes hand in hand with white guilt. In their minds, the worst thing you can be is straight and white but they can ditch their white guilt if they become part of an oppressed class by identifying as non binary or trans.
That’s how this always seems to go according to the vast majority of trans-widows. The pattern is always the same. They are middle aged men who become obsessed with pornography and that leads them down a really dark road. Some end up viewing and dabbling in pedophilic content, and the more “virtuous ones” end up as proclaiming they are women and getting sexual kicks off of making everyone else pretend the same. But it always starts with pornography. As the Bible foretold, those who are not lovers of God and lovers of the Truth will be given over to their most debased desires. We are just watching one form of that come to fruition. 🤷🏽♀️
This lady was so nervous when she started and I give her a lot of credit. This wasn't easy. She got better as she got going with it and I applaud her honesty.
@@gardyloo3093I mean seeing them as objects for harm isn't too far from objects for sex when to you they're fictional people. Just like the sxxcide hxmicide line is blurry to criminals. The dopamine addiction is built on then using the real people the same way you used the parasocial ones.
I would say her liberal views and acceptance of her husband’s cross dressing was 50% of the problem. Immorality always leads to more immorality or being completely amoral.
Don't women feel sexy in a dress? I suppose the next grift will be if a gay man wink's at himself in the mirror. What'll you call that autohomophilia? I'm sure you'll grease their wheel to overturn Obergefell and Lawrence V Texas.
I'm so glad Shannon uses biological pronouns. Trans widows are so often coerced. For data on 55 more of us, channel in the handle here. I do kind of wish Shannon didn't have to trot out her "liberal" qualifications. Many of us have traditional values, were monogamous heterosexuals and we are entitled to our beliefs. "Jamie" is a malignant narcissist, as was my husband.
The liberal bit was important and relevant to establishing the context for her story. She’s showing you this isn’t exactly easy or natural for her to criticize a part of the LGBT movement, therefore because she is criticizing it, pay attention. She’s establishing credibility. This is an effective rhetorical device.
I think she wanted to show that EVEN in a highly liberal couple, who had experienced lots of practices that aren't seen with good eyes by many people, she could see the harm that was beyond made and the relation that transitioning had with other mental illnesses, thus her testimony not being "biased" by prejudice. (Which tends to be the excuse for invalidating conservative families who have to deal with the trans issue)
I wouldn't be sure about malignant narcissist, when I know only one side of the story. Gender dysphoria is a real thing and today it is even scientifically confirmed, that some people are born with the brain of the other sex. There is some part of the brain responsible for sexual identification and it can be measured nowdays. BUT. I don't believe that all "transgenders" suffer from this condition. Earlier, there was a distinction between trans-sexuals (who feel like the other sex) and trans-vestites (who dress like the other sex but feel like their own). Today it's all covered under the umbrella term of "transgender." Also, I don't believe that those who decide to transition are all suffering of genuine gender dysphoria and I don't think that those extras are all maginant narcissist. Maybe just vulnerable, impressionable people who fell victim to this dangerous trend and therapists who are overhappy to "diagnose" them. There is no overly caution and careful examination of brain fuctions, instead (as I heard from those who underwent it) a "fallproof" test for this diagnosis is old good "draw a tree, a house and a person." If you draw a person of opposite sex than you are, you suffer from gender dysphoria. So, don't be too hard on your husband or Jamie. Look at it this way. In case they really suffered from gender dysphoria, they should be feeling better now and it wouldn't be nice to envy them the relief. And if they do not suffer it and yet transitioned (with hormones, operations, etc.), then what they had let to happen to their bodies is worth of pity even if they are malignant narcissists and more so, if they are just impressionable victims of brainwashed therapists.
I'm glad you're standing up for yourself. These trans individuals who demand they have the right to live as their authentic selves while denying everyone elses right to live their own authentic lives need to be stopped. I used to be more accommodating. But their unwillingness to accommodate me when I make a mistake has destroyed that willingness.
I went to a psychologist for 6 months. It didn't help. It made it worse actually. I left and got over my issues by working, studying, going to the gymn and coming back to my God.
My husband (now 80, happily heterosexual father of two) told his mother when he was about three (had an older sister who we suspect he thought was getting better 'deals' in life)"When I come back (that statement was interesting in and of itself for a three-year-old) I'm coming back as a girl!' Now they'd whisk him off to have his 'bits' removed! Frightening. And I had girl cousins who preferred to play with cars rather than dolls. Both married, had kids...never a thought about being anything other than female. This insanity is in over-drive, being pushed by those who appear to have some serious mental health issues.
Life changing hormonal and surgical medical interventions are a very lucrative business. This is a reason why medical doctors endorse it. It takes a group of greedy MDs to push a person into Trans : urologist, endocrinologist, gynecologist, plastic surgeon, psychiatrist, and more.
I see it as the inability to accept the diversity of feminine and masculine within your own sex seems to be a basic the issue, inability to accept your own “uniqueness” within your own sex. Or maybe just the desire to be like someone else. All to be accepted in your social circle.
Let's not forget that this process effectively sterilizes the participant, and thereby reduces future population growth, which seems to be one of the primary goals of the woke mob
30 years ago, my 2nd ex husband came out as Trans . It all went very bad for me and our kids. I am a Trans widow . It turned into a total nightmare . I was raised and grew in the left political world, also .
I still think it's good for some people however I'm convinced that it is being promoted as a business model and they want to trick anybody they can into doing it because it's a life time of drug fees as well as sterility which makes the World Economic Forum and George Sorros happy as they want to destroy the west. It also eliminates yet another man from the armed services which makes us weak militarily. I'm a conspiracy theorist all right but for what it's worth I think it's an attack on our country and a psy-op. They don't care about people off-ing them selves if they don't get transitioned quickly enough. That would be compassionate. They just want as many people transitioned as possible. Try not to feel bad about it. It's happening to all kinds of folks these days.
I'm glad you're talking publicly about what is really happening in this movement. This movement is cruel and based on lies, and is destroying the lives of children aswell as adults.
A quality therapist facilitates their client navigating and understanding their thoughts and feelings. They should provide resources and techniques to help process anything troubling them or holding them back. They should not be implanting their own ideas or influencing them in any way whatsoever. To refer to a client's proposed therapy plan as an "experiment" that will be "fun" should be an immediate red flag to everyone and the client should cease contact with that therapist immediately (and potentially report them to any certifying board or agency).
The more I hear about these horror stories, the more I start to believe that the "T" stands for tornado because that's about all it accomplishes. Complete and total devastation.
A male friend of mine was married to a woman who said she wanted a divorce because she discovered she was lesbian. So my male friend in an attempt to save his marriage starting to say he was non-binary and later a trans woman. His wife still divorced him and is with a man! She was never a lesbian, she was trying to just let him down easy I guess? Anyway, my male friend still decided to go through with being trans, he is a 6'2 240lb trans woman now. I am not making this up, I live in California and have another friend who was a 4'11 female that transitioned into a gay trans man. Yes, the 4'11 female is still attracted to men but wanted to be a gay man. They were 24 and my other friend was 32 when they transitioned. Both transitioned before covid, neither has had a sexual relationship since, both are on anti-depressants and the male to female transition has had a lot of complications. I don't ask if they regret it but if we were placing bets I would put my money on it that they do.
When you allow a behavior you reinforce it which means you are going to get more of it and/or worse behavior til the individual reaches chaos & destruction.
She's so intelligent. I like how she framed her purpose for speaking. I read her book and it was such a good read. The story itself is awful and unimaginable - what I especially enjoyed is her deep reflection on her love for her husband and what exactly about that was changing. She was so committed to him and to understanding him and helping him, but she really reached a non-negotiable limit.
one scene that really stuck out to me is near the end of the 18 months, he is flouncing around in a pink frilly tutu dress and asking Shannon what she thinks of it. ANd if he had any connection to her, he would have known that pink frilliness was never her style. But for some reason he though she would like the pink frilly dress? IT was this incredibly heartbreaking moment of how much he had erased about her , forgotten about her as he became completely self-obsessed. Or maybe it's just normal dude behavior. By that time in the book, even I knew Shannon's style better than the man she'd been in a relationship with for 15 years. its really struck me. (I edited to clarify some unclear pronouns.)
@@ebert8756 even if a (non-ballerina) woman had done that, it would indicate some sort of emotional or mental illness, perhaps caused by physical imbalance in the brain.
@@canelareina3795 That's how I took it. Putting the foofy dress aside - obviously abnormal behavior for a man though it is - it's not normal for a man who's been married for years to not know anything about his wife anymore all of a sudden.
I fear we're dealing & pandering to peoples neurotic narcissistic behaviour. Unless we realise these people are unhappy within themselves of which we cannot fix then we'll also be dragged down into their madness
Come 2029 this whole thing will collapse due to children young people killing themselves after their bodies been destroyed mutilating and maybe parents killing themselves for allowing this. It’s absolutely tragic what has happened. 🤮👿👺☠️
I’ve been involved in this from the very beginning, it’s now going on for a decade, and I still can’t comprehend what’s happening. I just cannot believe that mass delusion has spread so widely throughout our society, it’s just shocking.
Just remember the "mafia" are tools being manipulated. The enemy isn't the trans people, its the ones convincing them and profiting off people becoming sick and divided. The real mafia are orchestrating things behind the scenes at a safe distance.
I am a gay man with a partner. I would be, for a bit, devastated if he suddenly wanted to become a woman and then act on it! This man had an acute change, some type of mental illness for sure. My partner and I have lost friends over our disagreement with the current trans craze. I feel for the trans widows 😌
Good riddance. This insanity happened in our family. Male cousin, took his 3 little children plus wife and moved to an uninhabited abandoned island in Canada, so that he can live his fantasies out in privacy. While his children are cut off from society. His wife, out of desperation, is going along with it. Now they identify as a lesbian couple, even though she is straight, and he is obviously not. People who agree with this type of insanity have no idea what kind of devastation they are encouraging.
She said something very important. He felt like something biological was turning him into a woman. That's the key. Low testosterone, environmental estrogens damaging men's biology. Yes, I studied this in college 40+ years ago.
@@someonesomeone25 I do not think that alone causes trans. Real trans is a body dysmorphia much like anorexia. However, if you have low T and introduce an estrogen such as plant estrogens, it probably causes body problems but I believe you'd have to have the mental piece as well.
@@someonesomeone25My mind was about to go off into a huge mental trip with this one, but then I remembered there are many girls transitioning to boys and having their uteruses and breast removed. Could that be caused by another type of endocrine disruptor, because that’s not a low T issue
@@No._1_Karen Off the top of my head, I wonder if there's a connection between rising numbers of autism and rising numbers of lgbtq+ (since there's a connection between the two)?
Thank you for taking the risk to speak up about your experiences. 8:32 I can attest to this. The family member involved had a long and intensifying history of delusions of persecution (as well as other mental health issues). These persisted after he "transed."
I don't like the idea of divulging marriage matters but this is a matter of public safety so makes sense as this is not an isolated case but rather a mass trend as masses of children and teens are being subjected to grooming, propaganda and porno contributing to time, life, money waste and physical and emotional gendergaga pain.
@ls-l1518 I think what they mean is that there is a difference between publicly shaming your spouse (which is a form of manipulation) and informing others. In this case, this lady was informing others of the consequences of gender ideology in a marriage. However some people use social media to publicly shame and coerce their spouses into doing what they want.
@@youtubecommentator6023 The comment has veen totally edited. It said before, you should never discuss your marriage in public. And that was what I replied to.
The fact is that not "everything goes" in sexuality. We have to be constantly aware of unhealthy perversion, because the more you feed the bad wolf, the more it grows. And that's what's happened. There are genuine gay or trans people, but now it's grown out of control with all the crazy "support".
Thats not a fact, its an opinion. I agree perversion is a real problem, but its not like anything besides missionary sex is evil. Mind you this all wouldn't have been possible without the hyper-religious conservatism of the past. This is our whiplash from the rebound of those failings.
@@carinaekstrom1 Where do you draw the line in what is permissible and what isn't? Personally, I think its whatever doesn't bleed into daily life, but thats honestly a blurry line. At base level, I agree and its obvious that not everything should be permissible, but im also a near liberty absolutist. This type of manipulation of people will always happen in various forms when corruption in power exists. And thats where this started, corrupt and powerful leaders finding ways to manipulate people both for profit and to divide us against each other. If it wasn't the Trans stuff, it would be something else. Divide and conquer. We're all bitching about gender ideology crap (me included) instead of focusing on the real issues in this country of politicians and industry leaders taking our work and manufacturing over seas or price fixing and causing our housing and economy collapse. All this stuff is just a well designed distraction from the real issues which those same people are profiting from.
I have to note: that her liberal (and not in the arts sense), but in the ‘anything goes’ sense, led her down the rabbit hole of amoral behaviour. What I mean is, than when everything is OK, then, anything goes, and there are no guiding precepts from which to draw. I would suspect that the husband was similarly inclined, hence where they ended up- with nothing. We definitely reap what sow.
If you think only liberals go down the transgender rabbit hole, I've got news for you. In fact, "trans widows" with traditional values are speaking up in the comments- don't leave them out of the discourse. It is tempting to find a simple explanation- and thus a simple solution.
“Whatever language works for them”. That rather defeats the purpose and function of language. Difficult to communicate when people are using words willy nilly however they work for them.
I wonder if andropause (the male form of menopause) is effecting men and they might actually need test not estrogen. We will never know though because they are afraid to ask any questions.
My cousin who is a paramedic and fireman. He went to the doctor and his testosterone was incredible low. They said it was all the stress of his job. This world has a lot of stress right now. Back in the day people would die early. Now they live longer but it's like mentally we are frayed.
@@albertogutierrez72Wait until you get to sixty five! Why do you think old men cry over stupid movies? Why do you think it takes us all night to do what we did all night? Enjoy your libido while you have it!
That must have been so disorienting and traumatizing for this woman. To have the man who’s become your lover, your protector, your security & safety just crumble into this must be absolutely jarring. I can’t imagine any man in my life becoming this, especially my now future husband!
With the plethora of Liberal Left insane ideologies destroying our civilization, I'm always astounded when people still claim to be a Liberal. The Classical Liberal is now considered to be part of the Conservative side. Look it up.
Then stop voting "D", the Democrat party has been hijacked by the extremists! I'm an Independent, voted for and was a supporter of Bill Clinton, but the modern Democrat party is NOTHING like it was under him.
I believe that most of the teenagers who say they're trans are doing it to get attention, and the pre-teens have Munchausen-by-proxy parents. This is not to say that true transgenderism does not exist, because I believe it does.
I am just learning about the impact of the trans laws and am appalled. You are very brave and it is people like you that are leading the awareness. I will read your book. It occurs to me at this stage that anyone who is responsible for putting these laws on the books is responsible for misinformation.
Jesus saved me from the mess of thinking I was genderfluid/male and brought me happiness. He is still working on making me into who he intends me to be - a beautiful young woman full of joy and curiosity
Your religious language is not helping. Societies have problems that can be explained and solved. Labeling anything bad as "evil" and screaming lord is not the most rational or productive way to deal with problems.
@@tangerinetangerine4400 - funny! Following Gods timeless laws actually solve pretty much all of humanities problems. And usually, God is way better at fixing things we humans have messed up through ‘sin’, than any human (other than Jesus) ever can! Read some accurate church history.. Thomas Aquinas, st Augustine, or even CS Lewis, Screw Tape Letters..
Not really, Scientologists are just as if not more crazy. There is corruption in EVERY industry, not JUST psychology. We have a massive corruption and psychopathic problem that allows people to excuse any sort of exploitation as long as its profitable.
I can't wondering whether this ladies liberal background help set her up for a great big fall. It certainly appears to have brought her into what became a toxic relationship.
It sounds like they had a good relationship before his transition. Maybe his liberal values made him susceptible to this bizarre trend, but from another post (@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals), it looks like traditional couples are vulnerable, too.
This happened to friends of mine. He was in his 50's when he essentially blew up his marriage and family. He went all the way with the surgery. He was a big man and was NEVER going to resemble a woman. A few years later, he realized the transition DID NOT SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS. He now lives again as a man and also alone. SAD.
That was brave and bold, Shannon, thank you for sharing, giving further insights to those of us navigating the modern world with responsibilities for children.
Shannon's book is amazing and everyone should read it. I went through something similar with an ex-fiance. He started with bras and panties under his normal clothes, and quickly progressed to pink sparkly manicures and outward feminine dress. I didn't like it but I still tried to be supportive and open-minded, but I left when I caught him using fetish groups to cheat. Unsurprisingly he told everyone I left because I was a bigot who couldn't accept the "real him". Oh sorry, the real HER 🙄 This man was a 6'9" fat bald autogynephile demanding the right to involve unwilling participants in his fetish, but yeah I was the villain. I have two friends who lost their husbands to malignant autogynephilia as well, and were also smear-campaigned for leaving. This happens to a LOT of women and I for one am sick to death of the onus being on us to joyfully embrace losing the men we fell in love with.
I wonder how long this process was for her ex-husband. It's strange, a full-grown man with set hobbies, and at first, no obvious reason to do this suddenly flips over the course of a few months. The porn doesn't help. The therapist didn't help, obviously. I was going to say but-, but i realize social media is more powerful than we realize. So what is the real reason people keep becoming these victims to this mind set. There has to be a lead up to this.
@@amandaamadori7756 god could even do better to explain the processes because at least god would be able to pinpoint the exact location at where it happened. You're no better than the Salem witch hunt folks, nor did you in any firm substance awnser my actual question.
Its really not. Cross-dressing by itself, while weird, isn't an issue. It never really was an issue before this whole insane ideology happened. Its not like being gay is inherently wrong. And clothing choices are completely arbitrary other than how they accentuate sexual features.
@@nickmagrick7702obviously this can’t be generalized and differs for different people. This is also a tool used to indoctrinate. This stuff is gross and now for this woman is the end of her marriage.
The use of porn can actually change our idiology. It has a stronger, and I think a negative affect on the mind than any drug abuse or alcohol use. 13:03
How devastating for this poor woman. It’s a very sad fact that many of us are so susceptible to psychological suggestions/ coercion. I think it’s TikTok, instagram and Facebook that are influencing the suggestible youth, and I have heard that pornography is a factor in many incidents of gender confusion.
Her husband has autogynophilia. I’m not sure why she never mentions this maybe she didn’t know about it but she wrote a whole book so it’s strange she calls her husband trans when he isn’t.
As soon as a man starts cross dressing with me especially during sex, I would have ended the relationship right there. If that was not the situation you signed on for it is time to move on. I think it is important for couples when they first start dating to start asking more questions about what their predilections are and what fantasies they my have sexually. I think people don't have those honest discussions enough at the beginning. If there is an agreement understood about sexual and gender roles then there should be an understanding of fidelity as long as that relationship exists. Each party should be accountable for their own happiness and should disclose when they start feeling unhappy in the relationship. If after both inner work with themselves and outer work with each other they no longer match up they should cut their losses to allow either party to find contentment elsewhere. Neither party should put a burden on the other to fulfill their happiness particularly when one has to totally change themselves to accommodate the other to do so. Due to the changes in society, few marriages will last a lifetime. Even if there is no drastic change like gender transition some people evolve over time and may want to move on to another life. Just my 2 cents.
You stated: "I think it is important for couples when they first start dating to start asking more questions about what their predilections are and what fantasies they my have sexually. I think people don't have those honest discussions enough at the beginning. " I agree with you that communication is very important, especially in matters that will effect a relationship, and this extends to conversation are sex and sexuality. I had two things that had a disastrous impact on my marriage. The first was that I was sexually abused as a child from age 5 to 15. This left me with PTSD and I would have flashbacks to the abuse during sex, which lead to me not wishing to have sex, and lead to my wife threatening to leave. I was able to seek therapy, and with a psychologist was prescribed medications. I have also been able to be in support groups. My mental health is much better. That all said, I'm going to more directly address your comment about discussing sexuality. My abuse alone made talking about sex an uncomfortable thing, even with my wife. In addition, my first girlfriend I had as an adult laughed at me when I told her about kinks and fetishes. She continued to make fun of me over what I told her for the remained of our relationship. This lead to never talking to any other partner, including my wife for a very long time. In fact we first started dating in 2006, married in 2010, and it was not until six months ago that I finally opened up and told her what I desired with her. It honestly turned into a very positive conversation, but it was extremely difficult to initiate that conversation. That all said. I think what Shannon's husband did was terrible. He did her a great disservice by involving her in that in that way. What would have been more fair would be to either leave her and transition after, or give her a clear option to stay through it. But at the end of the day, there are those of us who either have been shamed for sexual desires already, or have reason to fear shame, and are forced to then stay quiet. Its a real shame, but its true. I also think it has only gotten worse in recent years.
@@RingoHalliday I empathize with your situation. Sorry you had to go through that. It sounds like you guys were already in a relationship when you started the discussion. I also get it when people are afraid to disclose. I hope this does not sound too disappointing but I personally believe that if a person rejects one it's time for one to move on. I don't care how many months, weeks, or years one has invested in that relationship. That's why I say that fidelity is an important element in a relationship. I believe as adults that we should be seeking happiness for ourselves as individuals before getting in a relationship. And within that relationship, one should continue to seek to be responsible for their own happiness. Personally, I think a lot of people get in relationships to fill a void that's within themselves. In the case of the woman in this video and her husband, I believe the husband never was a whole person. They were probably seeking out the woman to fill an emptiness in themselves instead of filling that emptiness as an individual first before getting into a relationship. Unfortunately She had to pay the price that he should have paid before even being with her. And even if he discovered that he was evolving as an adult, he should disclose that change when it started to percolate. As a grown adult that is his responsibility. Emotionally he was not behaving as a fully actualized adult and was expecting his partner to be the parent that possibly one or both of his parents were not.
I have been to multiple therapists over the years. A few good, a few bad. It's not right to judge all of therapy over one or two bad examples. I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse that started at age 5. My first disclosure to a therapist I was told it doesn't happen to boys, which just increased my mental health issues. I saw a second therapist who decided instead she wanted to treat me for "grief counseling" over the death of the very person who sexual abused me for ten years because she was uncomfortable talking about sexual trauma. I eventually found an amazing therapist at a rape crisis center who helped me get my mental health in shape. I spent 7 years at the crisis center, and unfortunately went through several therapist(all were EXCELLENT) because it seemed like they all found better paying jobs elsewhere. I know many others who have had great success as well.
I'm not going by one or two bad examples; I'm going by hundreds. I've seen more than 12 therapists myself over the last 25 years, and gotten 4 for my children. I've also been in online groups for parents who are suffering severely from bad therapists. I'd say in my own experience, it's a wash. The half that were good managed to help me recover from the trauma inflicted upon me of those that were bad. Kind of like they cancelled all therapy out, and I'm back to where I would have been if I'd just talked to my cat. Sounds like you're in somewhat of a similar situation. :/ @@RingoHalliday
Mostly by big pharma, who basically owns all therapists who use insurance. The others are considered to be discriminating against the poor. How can they win?@@kellharris2491
I have a feeling there was a lot more going on with Jaimie than just his gender, that he held secret from you, even though you thought you had good communication.
Can relate to a lot of this. Thankfully, I can also say that my life since losing my marriage to gender-belief has become so much better than I imagined it could be.
In my opinion, porn does a hell lot of damage. It shows boys and girls a fake reality and awakens desires that an ordinary person can’t fulfill- at leat not on a daily basis. Instead of love and shared responsibilities, like building a life together and raising kids, relationships are broken down to good s€x and getting an adrenaline rush.
Even adults can be manipulated, like her husband was. I stopped watching p orn in 2018/2019 its a not a healthy thing to watch. Also, I have stopped frequenting many social medua sites, especially tiktok. Oh, and these therapists... they have their own issues! So easy to see that if adults can be manipulated so can children in this new era.
I work as a psych nurse, we have to address them with their preferred pronouns and treat them and call them as the gender they identify with. Make that make sense.
When you remove God and Jesus from your life, you feel incomplete. You go looking for a way to make yourself whole or happy. The world draws you in with promises of short term happiness but it always ends up the same way. Find God and Jesus.
I have no sympathy. She is complicit in his behavior by being “open” and encouraging it instead of meeting him with the reality that he could not and never would be a woman.
Do you think it was predominantly or exclusively pornography that fueled Jamie's inclinations, or was it the internet in general which allows individuals unfettered access to nearly an infinite amount of information both credible and misleading?
I don't think it was the internet. With young people and people with learning difficulties or mental health problems, it totally is a danger, but not for a functioning adult. However, if he had a history of mental illness being a lack of strong sense of self identity, it likely was. Mostly, it was probably porn especially if he identifies as a lesbian which he probably does.
I hope this lady and others see the problem going on If my wife came up to me and said, "im a man," i would seek help for us And if that wasn't working and she kept persuing the transition stuff and what not I would file for divorce I married a woman, not a potential man And if she didn't want to be a woman anymore, she can do that away from this marriage Im glad this isnt an issue And same can be said if i told my wife i am now a woman Its not bigoted to not desire something or someones idea People really need to get back to knowing what words mean and quit telling people who or how they should feel or really live life And chioces and actions have consequences
I applaud this woman for not only having the strength to leave her narcissistic and clearly delusional ex but to also warn others about him
They’re both narcissists. She was all about it until it wasn’t about her anymore.
@@bluntforcetrauma6333 that's bollocks and you know it. She wasn't concerned at first because (as she noted, and you would know, if only you had listened) she was liberal sexually (most cross dressing in men is a sexual fetish) and loved him for who he was - whatever that might be. It was only when he began to refuse to accept reality that she felt the marriage was over.
I don't think we should be diagnosing people based on a 15 minute speech - him or her.
@@honeychurchgipsy6 we will just have to agree to disagree.
@@bluntforcetrauma6333 How was it ever about her?
@@bluntforcetrauma6333 I just got to the part of that video and had that same thought ..so i absolutely agree with you
The amount of distrust the medical community has caused over the past 10 years is immeasurable.
Piven cloward meets double.speak
. Make even questions a crime.
Traditional healthcare is destroyed. We won’t go to any doctor who doesn’t align with our values.
Many people have lost faith in their religion of the medical industry.
It took a doctor willing to “prove me wrong” to get my partial hysterectomy at 26. I was that bad off with fibroid tumors, stage 4 endometriosis, and ovarian cysts. I’ll never forget the doctor throwing the recommendation at me and storming out the room! I haven’t been to the doctor since my post follow up surgery…13 years. I am researching for a solid doctor to take me seriously, because I have a strong history of colon cancer in my family. (Maternal grandfather and mother both had it.) I need a doctor to listen to me and help me get my insurance to approve of my colonoscopy. To say I am trepiditious is an understatement.
This insanity and covid showed their true colors😐
What her “marriage therapist” did to her by violating the therapy contract (and abandoning their marriage) is unethical by any professional standard of ethics. If the field of psychology was less political, she would have a great lawsuit
This is how we beat this out of our society. She should sue. The very act of passivity is the reason this has gotten so far out of hand. Until people start to speak out and fight back, this will never be reined in. The longer that this "movement" this ideology is allowed to saturate our society and institutions is the more victims who will be harmed by it. If people are afraid of fighting for themselves, then they need to find their fight for the innocent youth being targeted by this sickness.
She was betrayed by someone meant to care for her. Do no harm to her. This is so sad. It leads me to wonder if the therapist was seeing her husband as career affirming more than as a human being. "It will be fun to transition you." Breaks my heart for them
I physically went after that nasty mtf " gender therapist" that killed my husband.. he completely vanished when he heard my spouse had died and just how angry I really was.. and still am.
@@DutchessCottonPuff I am sorry for your ordeal and loss
You mean , if this story were remotely true, she’d have a great lawsuit
This is one of the most destructive social forces to come along in quite some time.
It destroyed the Greeks, Roman's, Sodom, etc.
@@francismarion6400
In April 2019, I heard - Tell them I am coming soon. Later in the day I heard: There will be a great shaking. When I didn't tell a particular church about it, I got a dream where I was scared. I could hear myself saying: I'll tell them, I'll tell them, I'll tell them. Then I saw a person in the dark with well lit church windows behind him and another person dressed in white walking behind him and up some stairs.
Jesus is coming. On April 9, 2021, my vision went black for a quick moment, then I saw in gold letters - Thus saith the Lord. About four hours later, On April 10,in my sleep I heard - Prophet. Tell them I am coming soon. Maybe 3-5 min after that, at 1235 AM, our area had a 3.1 eq.
I wonder if that's the point.
@@elkpaz560 Perhaps an offshoot of the Cloward Pivens strategy?
It's 100% intentional and designed to be destructive.
These gender ideologues got a hold of my then 11yr old daughter online. We’ve been fighting for her ever since. These people are like religious zealots.
Keep fighting, you are not alone.
or worse. i’ve heard gender ideology referred to as cult behavior more than once. gratefully it hasn’t reached jonestown or waco status.
I'm so sorry. 💔😢🙏🏼💜
I can’t imagine
It's a @CULT by all standards
What’s going on right now in the field if psychology is the very reason psychologists were referred to as “quacks” back in the day.😮
Back in the day?
@@mickstone7380yes, it's a term that has been around a long time. People were shamed for "disrespecting" psychiatrists by calling them quacks. It was and I guess still is a non-PC term. But it is looking like it's pretty accurate now.
There has also been a long history of legitimate psychology science. It's debated as to how scientific it is, yet much of the research done before the 2010s was perfectly acceptable. There's always been questionable studies, but those studies didn't usually take off like the quackery of today. I think this is a problem of a bunch of people thinking they're psychologists when they're just using it for ideological bigotry.
But they weren't. That was psychiatrists.
@@ls-l1518 actually, the term was first applied to "snake oil salesmen", sellers of supposedly medicinal products, without a doctor's prescription.
I live in Canada where they can take away your children if you don't affirm them. We need to fight this insanity and hear more from the people harmed by this to speak out like you 👏
We have to understand how this suddenly became so prominent. decades ago there was a small number; now so many; is it something psychological like follow the leader ...
Canada isn't allowed to talk about oil and gasoline either
@elizabethabbott2982 personally, I think it goes hand in hand with white guilt. In their minds, the worst thing you can be is straight and white but they can ditch their white guilt if they become part of an oppressed class by identifying as non binary or trans.
@@HappyForestBridge-zj4yhsoon we won't be allowed to talk about anything but LGBTQ flags and how awesome Trudeau is 😢
It's happening here in the states as well and it's ridiculous
It's quite horrifying that the man she described is now an activist promoting the agenda for youth
He’s demonic.
That’s how this always seems to go according to the vast majority of trans-widows. The pattern is always the same. They are middle aged men who become obsessed with pornography and that leads them down a really dark road. Some end up viewing and dabbling in pedophilic content, and the more “virtuous ones” end up as proclaiming they are women and getting sexual kicks off of making everyone else pretend the same. But it always starts with pornography. As the Bible foretold, those who are not lovers of God and lovers of the Truth will be given over to their most debased desires. We are just watching one form of that come to fruition. 🤷🏽♀️
thats what you get out of this? ever thought that just naybe she isnt entorely truthful?
@@matswessling6600No, he is insane.
@@francismarion6400 no. he is not. read up on psychology.
This lady was so nervous when she started and I give her a lot of credit. This wasn't easy. She got better as she got going with it and I applaud her honesty.
Yet she removed a whole lot of people from Raverly for questioning things.
I found her extremely articulate and poised throughout.
See an important part of this was porn use. Porn addiction is real and dangerous.
It really is. Ted Bundy also said it's what turned him into a serial killer.
@@gardyloo3093I mean seeing them as objects for harm isn't too far from objects for sex when to you they're fictional people. Just like the sxxcide hxmicide line is blurry to criminals. The dopamine addiction is built on then using the real people the same way you used the parasocial ones.
Porn addiction and sex addiction are both very bad and can lead to very destructive and disgusting things.
I would say her liberal views and acceptance of her husband’s cross dressing was 50% of the problem. Immorality always leads to more immorality or being completely amoral.
@@joanjust8241 True
What her marriage counselor did was unethical 😢
A blessing in disguise that they don’t have children
Or not... it might have gone very differently
Yes. Some of these men have abandoned whole ass families because of their little fetish.
Yet. They don't have children yet. But they will.
@@pisceananarchyvortex7223btk has a child. Doesn’t make a difference.
I can hear the pain in her voice. 💔
My very masculine 21 year old son, suddenly discovered that he felt "sexy" in a dress....autogynephilic spiral was initiated. He's gone.
So sorry. I can't imagine how painful.
Don't women feel sexy in a dress? I suppose the next grift will be if a gay man wink's at himself in the mirror. What'll you call that autohomophilia? I'm sure you'll grease their wheel to overturn Obergefell and Lawrence V Texas.
It’s probably not sudden but it makes sense that he would have to hide it from you
@@bxstar5276 can men not be able to wear female clothing without being classed as ' Trans' ?
Edit: I know that women don't have cocks.
@@clairhonnor6211 of course
This is the death of a civilization.
Weimar stage, you know what's next
Na. A war is about to happen in house
What value do you get out of saying something like that?
What value do you get out of saying something like that?
I think you are Overstating things.
I'm so glad Shannon uses biological pronouns. Trans widows are so often coerced. For data on 55 more of us, channel in the handle here. I do kind of wish Shannon didn't have to trot out her "liberal" qualifications. Many of us have traditional values, were monogamous heterosexuals and we are entitled to our beliefs. "Jamie" is a malignant narcissist, as was my husband.
The liberal bit was important and relevant to establishing the context for her story. She’s showing you this isn’t exactly easy or natural for her to criticize a part of the LGBT movement, therefore because she is criticizing it, pay attention. She’s establishing credibility. This is an effective rhetorical device.
I think she wanted to show that EVEN in a highly liberal couple, who had experienced lots of practices that aren't seen with good eyes by many people, she could see the harm that was beyond made and the relation that transitioning had with other mental illnesses, thus her testimony not being "biased" by prejudice. (Which tends to be the excuse for invalidating conservative families who have to deal with the trans issue)
I think it is important we hear all voices, Ute, affected by this, liberal or not, more if liberal.
Thx, Mixrahichick. I assume most readers do not understand the Jewish reference. I do. Todah raba@@MizrahiChick
I wouldn't be sure about malignant narcissist, when I know only one side of the story. Gender dysphoria is a real thing and today it is even scientifically confirmed, that some people are born with the brain of the other sex. There is some part of the brain responsible for sexual identification and it can be measured nowdays.
BUT. I don't believe that all "transgenders" suffer from this condition. Earlier, there was a distinction between trans-sexuals (who feel like the other sex) and trans-vestites (who dress like the other sex but feel like their own). Today it's all covered under the umbrella term of "transgender."
Also, I don't believe that those who decide to transition are all suffering of genuine gender dysphoria and I don't think that those extras are all maginant narcissist. Maybe just vulnerable, impressionable people who fell victim to this dangerous trend and therapists who are overhappy to "diagnose" them. There is no overly caution and careful examination of brain fuctions, instead (as I heard from those who underwent it) a "fallproof" test for this diagnosis is old good "draw a tree, a house and a person." If you draw a person of opposite sex than you are, you suffer from gender dysphoria.
So, don't be too hard on your husband or Jamie. Look at it this way. In case they really suffered from gender dysphoria, they should be feeling better now and it wouldn't be nice to envy them the relief. And if they do not suffer it and yet transitioned (with hormones, operations, etc.), then what they had let to happen to their bodies is worth of pity even if they are malignant narcissists and more so, if they are just impressionable victims of brainwashed therapists.
I'm glad you're standing up for yourself. These trans individuals who demand they have the right to live as their authentic selves while denying everyone elses right to live their own authentic lives need to be stopped. I used to be more accommodating. But their unwillingness to accommodate me when I make a mistake has destroyed that willingness.
Thank God there are no kids in this mess
That’s the silver lining for sure. Proof positive this type of thing is self-limiting.
Really
Maybe this wouldn’t have happened to him if he had children.
@@Vorachan1111that’s a slippery slope 😵💫
Just not THEIR kids
I went to a psychologist for 6 months. It didn't help. It made it worse actually. I left and got over my issues by working, studying, going to the gymn and coming back to my God.
Ah, so you're still conversing with a non-existent identity (imaginary friend), I really think you should continue with the schizophrenia treatment...
@@darcylauren1934Really! Some help you are!
@@darcylauren1934sounds like they're learning how to be normal. You should try it.
@@AmoebaInkIndeed religion does.
Believing in a non-existent entity is not normal. @@zeenuf00
My husband (now 80, happily heterosexual father of two) told his mother when he was about three (had an older sister who we suspect he thought was getting better 'deals' in life)"When I come back (that statement was interesting in and of itself for a three-year-old) I'm coming back as a girl!' Now they'd whisk him off to have his 'bits' removed! Frightening. And I had girl cousins who preferred to play with cars rather than dolls. Both married, had kids...never a thought about being anything other than female. This insanity is in over-drive, being pushed by those who appear to have some serious mental health issues.
Life changing hormonal and surgical medical interventions are a very lucrative business. This is a reason why medical doctors endorse it. It takes a group of greedy MDs to push a person into Trans : urologist, endocrinologist, gynecologist, plastic surgeon, psychiatrist, and more.
No one is gonna let a 3 year old have SURGERY to change their gender. It literally doesn’t happen. But yes continue to believe the fake news
I see it as the inability to accept the diversity of feminine and masculine within your own sex seems to be a basic the issue, inability to accept your own “uniqueness” within your own sex. Or maybe just the desire to be like someone else. All to be accepted in your social circle.
And the supposed ‘help community’ appears it is really about control ….of others. Being a savior.
Let's not forget that this process effectively sterilizes the participant, and thereby reduces future population growth, which seems to be one of the primary goals of the woke mob
30 years ago, my 2nd ex husband came out as Trans . It all went very bad for me and our kids. I am a Trans widow . It turned into a total nightmare . I was raised and grew in the left political world, also .
What became of your husband?
@@brockreynolds870 , My ex husband was-band, is very mentally ill, I am not too sure , where that person is ...
I still think it's good for some people however I'm convinced that it is being promoted as a business model and they want to trick anybody they can into doing it because it's a life time of drug fees as well as sterility which makes the World Economic Forum and George Sorros happy as they want to destroy the west. It also eliminates yet another man from the armed services which makes us weak militarily. I'm a conspiracy theorist all right but for what it's worth I think it's an attack on our country and a psy-op.
They don't care about people off-ing them selves if they don't get transitioned quickly enough. That would be compassionate. They just want as many people transitioned as possible. Try not to feel bad about it. It's happening to all kinds of folks these days.
Crazy is as crazy does, I guess.
Possessed by Satan
I'm glad you're talking publicly about what is really happening in this movement. This movement is cruel and based on lies, and is destroying the lives of children aswell as adults.
Its demonic is what it is its strate from Satan
It is so refreshing to hear this side of the celebrated gender transition that leaves so much pain in its wake 😢
Thank you for your testimony and well done on refusing to be gaslit into using incorrect pronouns.
…but she was gaslit in the liberal world for decades, I guess she didn’t realize she could have refused it all along the way…oh well too late now.
A quality therapist facilitates their client navigating and understanding their thoughts and feelings. They should provide resources and techniques to help process anything troubling them or holding them back.
They should not be implanting their own ideas or influencing them in any way whatsoever.
To refer to a client's proposed therapy plan as an "experiment" that will be "fun" should be an immediate red flag to everyone and the client should cease contact with that therapist immediately (and potentially report them to any certifying board or agency).
Reporting a therapist was my first thought. I am quite interested if this speaker have done something about it.
The certifying board and agencies have been bought by the G mafia
The more I hear about these horror stories, the more I start to believe that the "T" stands for tornado because that's about all it accomplishes. Complete and total devastation.
T for Toxic…
@@clogs4956 Put the 2 words together, and you get Toxic Tornado which just about sums the entire process.
Thank you for sharing Sharon. 💚 Difficult witnessing.
A male friend of mine was married to a woman who said she wanted a divorce because she discovered she was lesbian. So my male friend in an attempt to save his marriage starting to say he was non-binary and later a trans woman. His wife still divorced him and is with a man! She was never a lesbian, she was trying to just let him down easy I guess? Anyway, my male friend still decided to go through with being trans, he is a 6'2 240lb trans woman now. I am not making this up, I live in California and have another friend who was a 4'11 female that transitioned into a gay trans man. Yes, the 4'11 female is still attracted to men but wanted to be a gay man. They were 24 and my other friend was 32 when they transitioned. Both transitioned before covid, neither has had a sexual relationship since, both are on anti-depressants and the male to female transition has had a lot of complications. I don't ask if they regret it but if we were placing bets I would put my money on it that they do.
When you allow a behavior you reinforce it which means you are going to get more of it and/or worse behavior til the individual reaches chaos & destruction.
She's so intelligent. I like how she framed her purpose for speaking. I read her book and it was such a good read. The story itself is awful and unimaginable - what I especially enjoyed is her deep reflection on her love for her husband and what exactly about that was changing. She was so committed to him and to understanding him and helping him, but she really reached a non-negotiable limit.
one scene that really stuck out to me is near the end of the 18 months, he is flouncing around in a pink frilly tutu dress and asking Shannon what she thinks of it. ANd if he had any connection to her, he would have known that pink frilliness was never her style. But for some reason he though she would like the pink frilly dress? IT was this incredibly heartbreaking moment of how much he had erased about her , forgotten about her as he became completely self-obsessed. Or maybe it's just normal dude behavior. By that time in the book, even I knew Shannon's style better than the man she'd been in a relationship with for 15 years. its really struck me. (I edited to clarify some unclear pronouns.)
@@ebert8756 even if a (non-ballerina) woman had done that, it would indicate some sort of emotional or mental illness, perhaps caused by physical imbalance in the brain.
@@ebert8756dancing around like a fruit in a foofy pink dress & forgetting everything you know about your wife is not normal dude behavior, wtf.
@@matthewatwood8641I thought she meant that a man not knowing what his wife's favortite styles are is normal
@@canelareina3795 That's how I took it. Putting the foofy dress aside - obviously abnormal behavior for a man though it is - it's not normal for a man who's been married for years to not know anything about his wife anymore all of a sudden.
I fear we're dealing & pandering to peoples neurotic narcissistic behaviour. Unless we realise these people are unhappy within themselves of which we cannot fix then we'll also be dragged down into their madness
I agree
We should be asking ourselves why narcissism is on the rise in the first place, in all political viewpoints mind you
Come 2029 this whole thing will collapse due to children young people killing themselves after their bodies been destroyed mutilating and maybe parents killing themselves for allowing this. It’s absolutely tragic what has happened. 🤮👿👺☠️
it's not an appropriate treatment for any child or adult.
I’ve been involved in this from the very beginning, it’s now going on for a decade, and I still can’t comprehend what’s happening. I just cannot believe that mass delusion has spread so widely throughout our society, it’s just shocking.
It was only gays in the beginning, not sure how straight men came up with gender and sexuality are two different things
@@ReginaTrans_ gender and sexuality are two different things. I think you might be confused about what each thing is.
Sad. Sick. Almost beyond belief. This is truly horrifying.
yes. she is a terrible person.
What??
I've had enough of the alphabet mafia
Just remember the "mafia" are tools being manipulated. The enemy isn't the trans people, its the ones convincing them and profiting off people becoming sick and divided. The real mafia are orchestrating things behind the scenes at a safe distance.
Thank you for your Courage in Speaking on this subject, and for sharing your personal experience. 💖
I am a gay man with a partner. I would be, for a bit, devastated if he suddenly wanted to become a woman and then act on it!
This man had an acute change, some type of mental illness for sure. My partner and I have lost friends over our disagreement with the current trans craze. I feel for the trans widows 😌
Good riddance. This insanity happened in our family. Male cousin, took his 3 little children plus wife and moved to an uninhabited abandoned island in Canada, so that he can live his fantasies out in privacy. While his children are cut off from society. His wife, out of desperation, is going along with it. Now they identify as a lesbian couple, even though she is straight, and he is obviously not. People who agree with this type of insanity have no idea what kind of devastation they are encouraging.
I feel really bad for them too. Peoples knee jerk reaction to this is to just simply hate the trans people, its the wrong way to go about things.
Wow. That's totally unethical of that therapist to do that.
Doctors do it to
Fun to transition him..like a toy?
Yeah, totally messed up. What a therapist!
@@jaredtopilko1313 Needs to have her license revoked and charged with interfering with a patient's therapy.
She said something very important. He felt like something biological was turning him into a woman. That's the key. Low testosterone, environmental estrogens damaging men's biology. Yes, I studied this in college 40+ years ago.
There seems to be a huge decrease in T levels across the population. Do you think low T makes men trans?
@@someonesomeone25 I do not think that alone causes trans. Real trans is a body dysmorphia much like anorexia. However, if you have low T and introduce an estrogen such as plant estrogens, it probably causes body problems but I believe you'd have to have the mental piece as well.
Absolutely. It’s in the water we drink and cook with.
@@someonesomeone25My mind was about to go off into a huge mental trip with this one, but then I remembered there are many girls transitioning to boys and having their uteruses and breast removed. Could that be caused by another type of endocrine disruptor, because that’s not a low T issue
@@No._1_Karen Off the top of my head, I wonder if there's a connection between rising numbers of autism and rising numbers of lgbtq+ (since there's a connection between the two)?
Her husband sounds like he was suffering from a mental health break
I wonder if he ever had a neurological exam, including a brain MRI.
ofc he was, she even said that very explicitly. She said mental illness runs in his family.
Thank you for taking the risk to speak up about your experiences.
8:32 I can attest to this. The family member involved had a long and intensifying history of delusions of persecution (as well as other mental health issues). These persisted after he "transed."
I don't like the idea of divulging marriage matters but this is a matter of public safety so makes sense as this is not an isolated case but rather a mass trend as masses of children and teens are being subjected to grooming, propaganda and porno contributing to time, life, money waste and physical and emotional gendergaga pain.
So no one should talk about their experiences as married people? That sounds very healthy.
@ls-l1518 I think what they mean is that there is a difference between publicly shaming your spouse (which is a form of manipulation) and informing others. In this case, this lady was informing others of the consequences of gender ideology in a marriage. However some people use social media to publicly shame and coerce their spouses into doing what they want.
@@youtubecommentator6023 The comment has veen totally edited. It said before, you should never discuss your marriage in public. And that was what I replied to.
Thank you for speaking out, Sharon.
The fact is that not "everything goes" in sexuality. We have to be constantly aware of unhealthy perversion, because the more you feed the bad wolf, the more it grows. And that's what's happened. There are genuine gay or trans people, but now it's grown out of control with all the crazy "support".
Thats not a fact, its an opinion. I agree perversion is a real problem, but its not like anything besides missionary sex is evil.
Mind you this all wouldn't have been possible without the hyper-religious conservatism of the past. This is our whiplash from the rebound of those failings.
@@nickmagrick7702 If it's an opinion, it's an opinion built on facts. The fact is that a lot of people get hurt by the idea that everything goes.
@@nickmagrick7702 And yes, the rebound always gets worse the farther the pendulum swings.
@@carinaekstrom1 Where do you draw the line in what is permissible and what isn't? Personally, I think its whatever doesn't bleed into daily life, but thats honestly a blurry line.
At base level, I agree and its obvious that not everything should be permissible, but im also a near liberty absolutist.
This type of manipulation of people will always happen in various forms when corruption in power exists. And thats where this started, corrupt and powerful leaders finding ways to manipulate people both for profit and to divide us against each other. If it wasn't the Trans stuff, it would be something else. Divide and conquer.
We're all bitching about gender ideology crap (me included) instead of focusing on the real issues in this country of politicians and industry leaders taking our work and manufacturing over seas or price fixing and causing our housing and economy collapse. All this stuff is just a well designed distraction from the real issues which those same people are profiting from.
I have to note: that her liberal (and not in the arts sense), but in the ‘anything goes’ sense, led her down the rabbit hole of amoral behaviour. What I mean is, than when everything is OK, then, anything goes, and there are no guiding precepts from which to draw. I would suspect that the husband was similarly inclined, hence where they ended up- with nothing. We definitely reap what sow.
It's all rainbows and unicorns, until it knocks on your door, and you have to stare into its ugly face.
If you think only liberals go down the transgender rabbit hole, I've got news for you. In fact, "trans widows" with traditional values are speaking up in the comments- don't leave them out of the discourse. It is tempting to find a simple explanation- and thus a simple solution.
EXACTLY
Absolutely. She created this situation.
Yes, his uncontrollable use of porn shows there were no moral boundaries. Porn is so evil and destructive.
“Whatever language works for them”. That rather defeats the purpose and function of language. Difficult to communicate when people are using words willy nilly however they work for them.
Postmodernism
I wonder if andropause (the male form of menopause) is effecting men and they might actually need test not estrogen. We will never know though because they are afraid to ask any questions.
There is no male form of menopause. Wtf are you talking about?
Modern men’s T levels are low and estrogen levels are too high.
My cousin who is a paramedic and fireman. He went to the doctor and his testosterone was incredible low. They said it was all the stress of his job. This world has a lot of stress right now. Back in the day people would die early. Now they live longer but it's like mentally we are frayed.
It’s cause of soy being promoted. Soy has estrogen. European blooded males and Caucasians in general need meat.
What are you talking about? I am my 50's. I heard something about this. It is just simply not true. False equivalence.
@@albertogutierrez72Wait until you get to sixty five! Why do you think old men cry over stupid movies? Why do you think it takes us all night to do what we did all night? Enjoy your libido while you have it!
That must have been so disorienting and traumatizing for this woman. To have the man who’s become your lover, your protector, your security & safety just crumble into this must be absolutely jarring. I can’t imagine any man in my life becoming this, especially my now future husband!
Shannon Thrace is always a voice of wisdom and insight.
Shannon's book is Excellent. Called 18 Months and is so truthful and informative.
I also am a lifelong liberal, and I am horrified by what is going on with this trans nonsense in schools and with kids. It is child abuse.
With the plethora of Liberal Left insane ideologies destroying our civilization, I'm always astounded when people still claim to be a Liberal. The Classical Liberal is now considered to be part of the Conservative side. Look it up.
Then stop voting "D", the Democrat party has been hijacked by the extremists! I'm an Independent, voted for and was a supporter of Bill Clinton, but the modern Democrat party is NOTHING like it was under him.
I believe that most of the teenagers who say they're trans are doing it to get attention, and the pre-teens have Munchausen-by-proxy parents. This is not to say that true transgenderism does not exist, because I believe it does.
Thank you for speaking, and im just mortified that people end up going through this sort of trauma.
I am just learning about the impact of the trans laws and am appalled. You are very brave and it is people like you that are leading the awareness. I will read your book. It occurs to me at this stage that anyone who is responsible for putting these laws on the books is responsible for misinformation.
What laws are you talking about?
Well, “transition” is not anything that actually factually exists. It’s simulation at best.
THIS. It’s all make-believe.
Jesus saved me from the mess of thinking I was genderfluid/male and brought me happiness. He is still working on making me into who he intends me to be - a beautiful young woman full of joy and curiosity
Evil is thickening in our world.
True, but people rose to the challenge and are fighting back like in no other moment in history. Let God help us to win.
Your religious language is not helping. Societies have problems that can be explained and solved. Labeling anything bad as "evil" and screaming lord is not the most rational or productive way to deal with problems.
@@tangerinetangerine4400 - funny! Following Gods timeless laws actually solve pretty much all of humanities problems.
And usually, God is way better at fixing things we humans have messed up through ‘sin’, than any human (other than Jesus) ever can!
Read some accurate church history.. Thomas Aquinas, st Augustine, or even CS Lewis, Screw Tape Letters..
The whole field of psychology is making Scientology's criticism of them true. Insane
By scientology's standards, she will be labelled as a "suppressive person" by getting in her husband's way of transitioning.
Not really, Scientologists are just as if not more crazy. There is corruption in EVERY industry, not JUST psychology. We have a massive corruption and psychopathic problem that allows people to excuse any sort of exploitation as long as its profitable.
It might all be back to normal one day...after the pharmaceutical companies and doctors etc, have earnt the big bucks out of this.
After they have been sued, and loose money.
So true.
The ones earning the big bucks always want MORE, so suing all of them til they fear being broke is the answer.
I can't wondering whether this ladies liberal background help set her up for a great big fall. It certainly appears to have brought her into what became a toxic relationship.
It sounds like they had a good relationship before his transition. Maybe his liberal values made him susceptible to this bizarre trend, but from another post (@UteHeggenTranswidowHeals), it looks like traditional couples are vulnerable, too.
It mmay be in smaller numbers, but non liberal couples are also at risk.
Of course it did. She was ok with all this stuff.
@@ShunyamNiketana he didn't 'transition' to anything. no human being can transition to the opposite sex.
What she experienced was the logical end result of the kind of radical lifestyles she supported.
You're gut is telling you the truth.
This happened to friends of mine. He was in his 50's when he essentially blew up his marriage and family. He went all the way with the surgery. He was a big man and was NEVER going to resemble a woman. A few years later, he realized the transition DID NOT SOLVE HIS PROBLEMS. He now lives again as a man and also alone. SAD.
And without his pp
That was brave and bold, Shannon, thank you for sharing, giving further insights to those of us navigating the modern world with responsibilities for children.
Thank you Shannon, powerful words.
I can’t imagine how hard this was..
How sad
her watching her husband change.. not realizing she was watching mental health deterioration
Shannon's book is amazing and everyone should read it. I went through something similar with an ex-fiance. He started with bras and panties under his normal clothes, and quickly progressed to pink sparkly manicures and outward feminine dress. I didn't like it but I still tried to be supportive and open-minded, but I left when I caught him using fetish groups to cheat. Unsurprisingly he told everyone I left because I was a bigot who couldn't accept the "real him". Oh sorry, the real HER 🙄 This man was a 6'9" fat bald autogynephile demanding the right to involve unwilling participants in his fetish, but yeah I was the villain. I have two friends who lost their husbands to malignant autogynephilia as well, and were also smear-campaigned for leaving. This happens to a LOT of women and I for one am sick to death of the onus being on us to joyfully embrace losing the men we fell in love with.
I wonder how long this process was for her ex-husband. It's strange, a full-grown man with set hobbies, and at first, no obvious reason to do this suddenly flips over the course of a few months.
The porn doesn't help.
The therapist didn't help, obviously. I was going to say but-, but i realize social media is more powerful than we realize. So what is the real reason people keep becoming these victims to this mind set.
There has to be a lead up to this.
Demonic that's what happend.
@@amandaamadori7756 god could even do better to explain the processes because at least god would be able to pinpoint the exact location at where it happened. You're no better than the Salem witch hunt folks, nor did you in any firm substance awnser my actual question.
Psychosis can manifest at anytime.
@helenestiernstrand6575 your awnser also did not directly answer my question either with as vauge as it was. 🤦♀️
@@rizavixen Its a plain answer to your pondering on how this change might have come about so all of a sudden.
Considering the indication of porn as a factor in her husband's case, it sounds like he not only had body dysmorphic disorder but also autogynephilia.
Yes! I like that you said we need to tell the truth!
Lady the fact that you ever had no issue with your husband cross dressing is scary 😱!!!!!!!
Its really not. Cross-dressing by itself, while weird, isn't an issue. It never really was an issue before this whole insane ideology happened. Its not like being gay is inherently wrong. And clothing choices are completely arbitrary other than how they accentuate sexual features.
@@nickmagrick7702obviously this can’t be generalized and differs for different people. This is also a tool used to indoctrinate. This stuff is gross and now for this woman is the end of her marriage.
@@nICe-hr4rs Thats why I said by itself
"Fun"???!!!!!!!! Good grief!!!!!!!
The use of porn can actually change our idiology. It has a stronger, and I think a negative affect on the mind than any drug abuse or alcohol use. 13:03
Something about middle age men that go weird. Some say perverted. And then say "I've been living a lie ".
How devastating for this poor woman.
It’s a very sad fact that many of us are so susceptible to psychological suggestions/ coercion.
I think it’s TikTok, instagram and Facebook that are influencing the suggestible youth, and I have heard that pornography is a factor in many incidents of gender confusion.
Her husband has autogynophilia. I’m not sure why she never mentions this maybe she didn’t know about it but she wrote a whole book so it’s strange she calls her husband trans when he isn’t.
Exactly. It's concerning that he went on to being involved with children.
As soon as a man starts cross dressing with me especially during sex, I would have ended the relationship right there. If that was not the situation you signed on for it is time to move on. I think it is important for couples when they first start dating to start asking more questions about what their predilections are and what fantasies they my have sexually. I think people don't have those honest discussions enough at the beginning.
If there is an agreement understood about sexual and gender roles then there should be an understanding of fidelity as long as that relationship exists. Each party should be accountable for their own happiness and should disclose when they start feeling unhappy in the relationship. If after both inner work with themselves and outer work with each other they no longer match up they should cut their losses to allow either party to find contentment elsewhere. Neither party should put a burden on the other to fulfill their happiness particularly when one has to totally change themselves to accommodate the other to do so.
Due to the changes in society, few marriages will last a lifetime. Even if there is no drastic change like gender transition some people evolve over time and may want to move on to another life. Just my 2 cents.
You stated:
"I think it is important for couples when they first start dating to start asking more questions about what their predilections are and what fantasies they my have sexually. I think people don't have those honest discussions enough at the beginning. "
I agree with you that communication is very important, especially in matters that will effect a relationship, and this extends to conversation are sex and sexuality. I had two things that had a disastrous impact on my marriage. The first was that I was sexually abused as a child from age 5 to 15. This left me with PTSD and I would have flashbacks to the abuse during sex, which lead to me not wishing to have sex, and lead to my wife threatening to leave. I was able to seek therapy, and with a psychologist was prescribed medications. I have also been able to be in support groups. My mental health is much better.
That all said, I'm going to more directly address your comment about discussing sexuality. My abuse alone made talking about sex an uncomfortable thing, even with my wife. In addition, my first girlfriend I had as an adult laughed at me when I told her about kinks and fetishes. She continued to make fun of me over what I told her for the remained of our relationship. This lead to never talking to any other partner, including my wife for a very long time. In fact we first started dating in 2006, married in 2010, and it was not until six months ago that I finally opened up and told her what I desired with her. It honestly turned into a very positive conversation, but it was extremely difficult to initiate that conversation.
That all said. I think what Shannon's husband did was terrible. He did her a great disservice by involving her in that in that way. What would have been more fair would be to either leave her and transition after, or give her a clear option to stay through it.
But at the end of the day, there are those of us who either have been shamed for sexual desires already, or have reason to fear shame, and are forced to then stay quiet. Its a real shame, but its true. I also think it has only gotten worse in recent years.
@@RingoHalliday I empathize with your situation. Sorry you had to go through that. It sounds like you guys were already in a relationship when you started the discussion. I also get it when people are afraid to disclose.
I hope this does not sound too disappointing but I personally believe that if a person rejects one it's time for one to move on. I don't care how many months, weeks, or years one has invested in that relationship.
That's why I say that fidelity is an important element in a relationship. I believe as adults that we should be seeking happiness for ourselves as individuals before getting in a relationship. And within that relationship, one should continue to seek to be responsible for their own happiness. Personally, I think a lot of people get in relationships to fill a void that's within themselves.
In the case of the woman in this video and her husband, I believe the husband never was a whole person. They were probably seeking out the woman to fill an emptiness in themselves instead of filling that emptiness as an individual first before getting into a relationship. Unfortunately She had to pay the price that he should have paid before even being with her.
And even if he discovered that he was evolving as an adult, he should disclose that change when it started to percolate. As a grown adult that is his responsibility. Emotionally he was not behaving as a fully actualized adult and was expecting his partner to be the parent that possibly one or both of his parents were not.
@@jossangeles4011everything you've said is so right. Few people are that mature and well adjusted.
@@lornocford6482 Agreed. Especially today.
Ok the ppl on here are you really listening to her?? She 100% enabled this man for years.
Aaaah she wrote book of course
You can't enable or prevent another adult to do what they want. You can just choose to stay or leave. I think she loved him.
Very respectful of the audience to eat and make noise while she's speaking. Super respectful. I'm happy they were at least paying attention....
The entire therapy world has gone to h*ll... or... I think it just always sucked.
to much greed and money involved.
I have been to multiple therapists over the years. A few good, a few bad. It's not right to judge all of therapy over one or two bad examples.
I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse that started at age 5. My first disclosure to a therapist I was told it doesn't happen to boys, which just increased my mental health issues. I saw a second therapist who decided instead she wanted to treat me for "grief counseling" over the death of the very person who sexual abused me for ten years because she was uncomfortable talking about sexual trauma. I eventually found an amazing therapist at a rape crisis center who helped me get my mental health in shape. I spent 7 years at the crisis center, and unfortunately went through several therapist(all were EXCELLENT) because it seemed like they all found better paying jobs elsewhere. I know many others who have had great success as well.
I'm not going by one or two bad examples; I'm going by hundreds. I've seen more than 12 therapists myself over the last 25 years, and gotten 4 for my children. I've also been in online groups for parents who are suffering severely from bad therapists. I'd say in my own experience, it's a wash. The half that were good managed to help me recover from the trauma inflicted upon me of those that were bad. Kind of like they cancelled all therapy out, and I'm back to where I would have been if I'd just talked to my cat. Sounds like you're in somewhat of a similar situation. :/ @@RingoHalliday
Mostly by big pharma, who basically owns all therapists who use insurance. The others are considered to be discriminating against the poor. How can they win?@@kellharris2491
The therapist enabled vulnerable narcissism, and should be held liable.
I have a feeling there was a lot more going on with Jaimie than just his gender, that he held secret from you, even though you thought you had good communication.
Can relate to a lot of this. Thankfully, I can also say that my life since losing my marriage to gender-belief has become so much better than I imagined it could be.
TIMs I have known have extreme stereotypes they adhere to. Macho and girly. Depending on identification at the time.
Of a liberal background. My husband was trans'tioned by a psych'gist we employed while homeschooling, as req'd by Ca law.
The marriage should have never happened, he was hiding his true identity as many do.
His true identity is affirmed by the gender he was born with. Nothing can change that!!!
Well done on your presentaion Shannon! ❤
The solution is simple: abolish gender/sex differences altogether. Problem solved, no more division or confusion.
In my opinion, porn does a hell lot of damage. It shows boys and girls a fake reality and awakens desires that an ordinary person can’t fulfill- at leat not on a daily basis. Instead of love and shared responsibilities, like building a life together and raising kids, relationships are broken down to good s€x and getting an adrenaline rush.
It's just common sense to question this phenomenon. Thanks for this story. ❤ ☮️
She was a liberal until it knocked at her door.
Yup
EXACTLY!
Even adults can be manipulated, like her husband was. I stopped watching p orn in 2018/2019 its a not a healthy thing to watch. Also, I have stopped frequenting many social medua sites, especially tiktok. Oh, and these therapists... they have their own issues! So easy to see that if adults can be manipulated so can children in this new era.
"my life was turning into a charade" .. T's want everyone to play charades w/them. unfortunately, it's easy to get young minds to play.
That sounds like primarily a mental health problem, especially if his family has a tendency for it.
I work as a psych nurse, we have to address them with their preferred pronouns and treat them and call them as the gender they identify with. Make that make sense.
When you remove God and Jesus from your life, you feel incomplete. You go looking for a way to make yourself whole or happy. The world draws you in with promises of short term happiness but it always ends up the same way. Find God and Jesus.
Protect your children from pornography!
I have no sympathy. She is complicit in his behavior by being “open” and encouraging it instead of meeting him with the reality that he could not and never would be a woman.
She didn't realize she WAS on the SLIPPERY SLOPE....
Do you think it was predominantly or exclusively pornography that fueled Jamie's inclinations, or was it the internet in general which allows individuals unfettered access to nearly an infinite amount of information both credible and misleading?
A lot of it is porn use, especially something called sissy porn.
She said his family also has a history of mental illness. So that's also genetic and environment creating a predisposition.
@@kellharris2491 Jamie's family has a history of mental illness in general, or a history of gender dysphoria specifically?
I don't think it was the internet. With young people and people with learning difficulties or mental health problems, it totally is a danger, but not for a functioning adult. However, if he had a history of mental illness being a lack of strong sense of self identity, it likely was.
Mostly, it was probably porn especially if he identifies as a lesbian which he probably does.
I hope this lady and others see the problem going on
If my wife came up to me and said, "im a man," i would seek help for us
And if that wasn't working and she kept persuing the transition stuff and what not
I would file for divorce
I married a woman, not a potential man
And if she didn't want to be a woman anymore, she can do that away from this marriage
Im glad this isnt an issue
And same can be said if i told my wife i am now a woman
Its not bigoted to not desire something or someones idea
People really need to get back to knowing what words mean and quit telling people who or how they should feel or really live life
And chioces and actions have consequences
This psychologist is exactly why I no longer trust the profession.